What the F$%&?
- Mexico pleaded with President Bush on Monday to veto a Senate proposal to build a fence to keep illegal immigrants out, saying it could backfire by making the border less secure.
- "The Mexican government strongly opposes the building of walls in the border area between Mexico and the United States," President Vicente Fox's spokesman Ruben Aguilar told reporters.
We can see why the Mexican government is scared shitless about the possibility of a wall going up on the border. Remittances back to Mexico are the biggest source of income aside from oil for the government and if the remittances stop flowing south, the Mexican government is going to actually have to deal with the crippling social ills that afflict the entire country.
Where the hell does Mexico get off telling the American government and people that a wall is bad for relations? A government that can't even stop tunnels thousands of yards long transporting illegal narcotics over the border from being built and protected by Mexican troops? Do yourself a favor Vicente - shut up.
Where the hell does Mexico get off telling the American government and people that a wall is bad for relations? A government that can't even stop tunnels thousands of yards long transporting illegal narcotics over the border from being built and protected by Mexican troops? Do yourself a favor Vicente - shut up.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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A government that can't even stop tunnels thousands of yards long transporting illegal narcotics
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Should read: "...WON'T even stop..."
Now these illegal felons want everyone to boycott Target and some other stores who have begun firing those whos SS number dont match up with their bogus names!
It wold interesting to know how Mexico handles it's borders with Guatemala and Belize.
How many illegal immigrants is the US going to hire to build this wall?
First, you assholes ought to know by now that Vicente Fox is no longer president of Mexico!! Hasn't been for awhile now. . . Also, I wonder how many of you remember the Berlin Wall. This is a bad idea and will have unbelieveable ramifications.
I fail to see what would be wrong with granting this people citizenship. That way, you know who they are, they can be employed, they can pay taxes, they can own property, etc.
I think you're creating a problem rather than solving one. . .
Every time a minority group boycotts some company I go out of my way to buy that company's products to make up for any potential lost revenue... as long as the company stands firm. Next time Jesse Jackson or a bunch of illegals initiate a boycott, let's all band together and let these companies know that if they cave in to the demands of these mutts that the rest of us (the silent majority) will show them a REAL boycott that will put them out of business for good. It's time for the rest of us to stand up for what's right and not let Jesse, Jakes, Sharpton, and a bunch of illegal aliens dictate our public policies. Screw 'em!
for the love of God almighty....when is our government going to make a move on this legislation..........since when did our country become an area that can be raped and pillaged by all without any sort of repercussions
its funny that we as hard working american citizens have LESS rights in our own damn country than these illegal immigrants..........get the F$%& out....its slowly but surely becoming a cancer
Just a WALL? Shiat! That sucker should be 15 ft high, 2 ft thick, reenforced with a 6 in steel center, lined with razor wire and have watchtowers... Not that anyone will pay for anything that elaborate, but it would be nice.
The GOP's immigration problem: will the elites get a clue?
National Review, Sept 12, 2005 by John O'Sullivan
IMMIGRATION has long been the great sleeper issue in American politics, with two-thirds of the voters wanting less of it and the political and business elites wanting a great deal more. Time and again it has looked likely to break through this bipartisan barrier into public debate. On each occasion, however, the elites have suppressed any stirrings of public opposition--until the last few weeks.
Over that period, the following events have occurred:
One. Leading Democrats with serious political ambitions--Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico, Gov. Janet Napolitano of Arizona, Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, and Hillary Clinton (no additional identification necessary)--have all expressed concern about border security, illegal immigration, and the social costs that immigration imposes. Napolitano declared a state of emergency in border counties hit hard by illegals, and Richardson praised as "patriots" the Minutemen watching the border (President Bush had damned them as "vigilantes").
Two. Working behind the scenes, the White House has helped set up a new bipartisan coalition to push for more open immigration. It will be headed jointly by two former congressmen (one Republican, one Democrat); organized by a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, Ed Gillespie; and funded to the tune of between $50,000 and $250,000 by corporations such as Wal-Mart. It is to be called "Americans for Border and Economic Security" (or ABES) and it is meant to soften up public opinion on behalf of the president's immigration reforms.
According to most estimates, about 11 million undocumented immigrants are now in the U.S., with about 56% coming from Mexico and 22% from other Latin American countries.
Steinberg article said there are 37 Mill Blacks in the country. At this rate the Hisp are gonna blow past the blacks.
It's all about business:
What might the consequences be if illegal immigration was severely restricted and guest worker status made more difficult to achieve?We believe that the first and most noticeable effect would be on the business sectors that most heavily employ these workers -- among homebuilders, where undocumented workers provide much of the semiskilled labor, and in agriculture, where unskilled workers frequently work quite cheaply. Nursing home and some health-care workers might also be affected. (Some employers in these fields now shield themselves from penalties for using undocumented immigrants by doing their hiring through middlemen and subcontractors who are willing to take the risk -- and often a sizable chunk of the immigrants' pay to make it worth their while.)
We would expect to see costs for employers in these industries to gradually rise as the pool of cheap labor diminished. Those higher costs would likely be passed along to consumers, resulting in pricier homes, produce, and medical care, although the inflationary impact would likely be small. Indeed, one of the strongest arguments against large numbers of undocumented workers is that although they serve to keep prices down in the industries where they work, they do so by depressing wages.
This is from businessweek.com
IT´S FUNNY MEXICO HAS A VERY STRICT IMMIGRATION POLICY YOU GO THERE ILLEGALLY THE GOVERNMENT FINDS OUT THEY GO TO YOUR HOUSE KICK THE DOOR IN DRAG YOU OUT AND SEND YOU ON YOUR WAY HOME
HELL YEAH SEND THEM BACK, ALL THESE ILLEGALS WITH NO DL OR INSURANCE ONE OF THEM CRASHED INTO ME ON THE WAY TO WORK AND WHEN I ASKED HIM IF HE HAD A LICENSE HE SHOWED ME HIS MEXICAN LICENSE NOW IM STUCK PAYING MY DEDUCTIBLE OUT OF MY POCKET BECAUSE THIS CLOWN THINKS HE IS IN MEXICO AND I DOUBT HE WOULD HAVE STAYED ON SCENE IF I DID IDENTIFY MYSELF MY LUXURY CIVIC IS TRASHED
Hidden cost of illegal immigration: ID theft
Red Tape Chronicles: Undocumented workers often use others' documents
• Immigration and ID theft
Bob Sullivan talks about stolen Social Security numbers on MSNBC.
MSNBC
In the noisy immigration debate raging in Washington, there is one voice NOT being heard: The voice of identity theft victims.
Behind many of the nation’s millions of undocumented workers are someone else's documents. To get a job, illegal immigrants need a Social Security number, and they often borrow one. As victim Melody Millet is fond of saying, U.S. citizens are being forced to share their identities with undocumented immigrants to give corporate America a steady supply of cheap labor.
Thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of Americans are right now sharing their identities with immigrants and don't know it. It is the dirty little secret of the immigration issue: By not dealing directly with the undocumented worker situation, the U.S government is actually encouraging identity theft. In fact, one can argue that the origins of the identity theft epidemic can be traced to the immigration issue.
Blood in, blood out. Vato Locos r on the way ese. Is that you Hodges?
Fox ix still President till December 1st then Caledron takes over. So individual posting retort is in error.
Fox is sitting in the U.N. can you imagine in Human Rights. The Human Rights Charter is being taught in predominately Latino, LOL Charter Schools. Follow the dots.
Is he not very close friends with Mexico's main bank, and the owner who is a drug lord. Naw that couldn't be true, or could it? Fox's comes from a wealthy family involved in ranching and loves his big belt buckle that says FOX. The name Sums it all up.
Rome is crumbling again! The barbarian invasion is in advanced stages. Our idiot leaders do nothing to help the situation. We sit on our hands while they pick our pockets. Even Hadrian knew enough to build a wall! We haven't the will to survive as an American Society. We will morph into something else entirely. A lesser thing, for sure! We are witnessing our own CONQUEST.
Hey "Leftisthebest", you tey to come across as sofhearted, but it softheaded that you really are. "Undocumented" is your bullshit liberal activist terminology for ILLEGAL. That is to say UNLAWFUL, WRONG, IN VIOLATION OF THE LAWS OF THIS LAND!
There is NO way to make ILLEGAL into LEGAL! Take your liberal alchemy and go become a social worker. Anyone with such a poor understanding of RIGHT & WRONG does NOT belong on this job!
The POOR? Yes there are, and way too many. I refer to the AMERICAN POOR, not ILLEGAL ALIENS! o we have a moral duty to help our own AMERICAN POOR? Absolutely! Do we have any duty toward the criminal illegal alien poor? Absolutely NOT!!!
If a fence won't stop them, how about nukes? Scorched earth from Texas to Tiajuana -
Its all about business:
What about the hidden costs? Auto accidents by drivers with no insurance, Financial Identity Theft, Goverment subsidy for illegal families, Drug use, prostitution*(I'm not complaining about that, just pointing it out!)
Illegals skew the system of supply and demand of labor. Reduces the power of Unions,and weaken legit American Workers.
Put them in the "Hercules" (AKA Spruce Goose) and toss them out over Foxes ranches, let him use them as labor or fertilizer.
I just wanna know when the FEDS are going to sweep out that Mexican bitch out of that hillbilly make-believe church who "refuses" deportation.
It's outrageous that they allow this illegal Mexican loudmouth to dictate that she will not leave this country. I swear there are no balls or testosterone left in this country, esp in Wash DC (unless you area male congressmen and like going after young male pages).
Get those commandos who rescued that Cuban kid in FL and kick her ass outta here. I'll volunteer to video tape it and add my own comments along the way.
Thanks for the rant.
If we are so worried about securing the border why don't we do something with the 5500 mile border of Canada? There are documented terrorists living there remember the french algerian terrorist. If mexicans spoke english none of you people would be bitching about sending them back.
THE BERLIN WALL KEPT GERMANY DIDVIDED AND WAS A CREATION BY THE ALLIES POSTWAR.THATS WHAT GERMANS WANTED, THE WALL TO FALL. WE AND MEXICO ARE TWO DIFFRENT COUNTRIES YOU IDIOT.
IF YOUR GONNA GET INDICTED, SEE SOS, GO HIDE IN A CHURCH AND SEE IF THE G COMES FOR YOU.
You guys have hit it on the head, build a wall, and man that wall.
Just came over from the ispeeved site, read some posts the other day from some CPD guys on it.
You guys rock, thanks for the help out there, and stay safe.
leftisthebest said...
A fence will not stop the tide of undocumented workers coming into this country and you guys know this. The problem is how to help the poor in this country and how to help the undocumented become legal.
10/03/2006 04:59:21 PM
The probelm of helping the poor is easy. END ALL WELFARE, ADC, AND ENTILTELMENTS AND MAKE THEM GET JOBS LIKE THE REST OF US OR THEY AND THEIR BABIES CAN STARVE.
The problem with unnatrual aliens in bigger, but easy to sovle; deport all eleven million of them as soon as possible.
Then we solvetwo problems. No more poor- wither working or starved to death and no more unnatural aliens.
I fail to see what would be wrong with granting this people citizenship.
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Because they entered this country ILLEGALLY, you asshole! How stupid are you???
Poster 10:41:15 hit the "nail on the head." As long as companies can subcontract illegals for cheap labor and increase their profit margin,they will be continue to be welcomed with open arms while the working and middle class families of this country wither on the vine. Until this country speaks with ONE definative voice,this miscarrage of justice will continue.
JUST FOUND OUT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BUILD A WALL AND TO CUT DOWN ON COST THE ARE GOING TO HIRE A BUNCH OF ILLEGALS TO BUILD IT
HEY CAN WE SERVE IMMIGRATION WARRANTS IF SO I AM GONNA BUST IN THAT ´SHYSTER CHURCH DOOR IN AND DRAG THAT LADY OUT IN CUFFS, HASTA LA BYE BYE
BERLIN WALL A CREATION OF THE ALLIES? Holy revisionist history Batman! The Berlin wall was erected by the East German People's Democratic Republic (Communists) to stop the flow of professionals to the West. Not by thwe allies. Public school grd., right?
Does the term North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) mean anything to you? If so please tell me. If, as I suspect, you have no clue then I will go thru the effort to explain why Mexico is not a happy place for most Mexicans and what NAFTA--and every "free trade" agreement has to do with it. Stay safe.
I just wanna know when the FEDS are going to sweep out that Mexican bitch out of that hillbilly make-believe church who "refuses" deportation.
It's outrageous that they allow this illegal Mexican loudmouth to dictate that she will not leave this country. I swear there are no balls or testosterone left in this country, esp in Wash DC (unless you area male congressmen and like going after young male pages).>>> I agree your right just go in take her enough of this nonsense. Little Louie is talking his usual s%%T and remember he supported the puerto rican terrorist organization FALN and had his buddy "Hillbilly Bill Clinton" pardon them bad hombres what an ASS and he is running for mayor along with jesse jetstream dumb as a board dorthy brown, brainless dock walls this is funny almost to real to be true but it is!
The Canadian's are not sucking on our economic pacifier. Public aide helps those who are illegal also. You should have to show you are a citizen to get any type of public assistance ie... clinics and such. Go back to mexico, africa and where ever else you are sending the monies that we as American's give you. We pay taxes and social security so you can send it to a foreign country. Any other countries sending us money? Businesses are robbing the US by letting these people work. They pay under the table so they don't pay taxes for the "employees" and the profits they get for paying those "employees" nothing.
BERLIN WALL A CREATION OF THE ALLIES? Holy revisionist history Batman! The Berlin wall was erected by the East German People's Democratic Republic (Communists) to stop the flow of professionals to the West. Not by thwe allies. Public school grd., right?
I doubt it was CPS grad (I kind of resent that as I was a CPS grad) more than likely a liberal trying to put there own spin on history. You put it well, a definite revisionist.
just think of the fun we're going to have when crook county becomes their sanctuary. what's next, we can't enforce our laws upon the illegals because they're not americans? build the wall, equip the towers with .50 cals and start the deportation. how nice it will be not to have to hear, " is okay is okay, no problemo" anymore.
PHOTO IDs: Ha ha, the Dems are now howling against the idea of a photo ID voters card!
You can only imagine why they could possible object to real registered voters voting.
Guess what, Mexico requires a voter's photo ID card before it's citizens can cast a vote.
The sooner this party of race baiting, anti American scum suckers is in history's trash heap, the better.
Rethinking Birthright Citizenship
October 2, 2006
A recent article in the Houston Chronicle discusses the problem of so-called anchor babies, children born in U.S. hospitals to illegal immigrant parents. These children automatically become citizens, and thus serve as an anchor for their parents to remain in the country. Our immigration authorities understandably are reluctant to break up families by deporting parents of young babies. But birthright citizenship, originating in the 14th amendment, has become a serious cultural and economic dilemma for our nation.
In some Houston hospitals, administrators estimate that 70 or 80% of the babies born have parents who are in the country illegally. As an obstetrician in south Texas for several decades, I can attest to the severity of the problem. It’s the same story in California, Arizona, and New Mexico. And the truth is most illegal immigrants who have babies in U.S. hospitals do not have health insurance and do not pay their hospital bills.
LOS ANGELES — This is part three of a five-part series looking at how illegal immigration affects U.S. border security, the criminal, health care and education systems, as well as the economy. Watch the series this week on FOX News Channel.
Overburdened by the uninsured and overwhelmed by illegal immigration (search), public health care in Los Angeles is on life support.
Sixty percent of the county's uninsured patients are not U.S. citizens. More than half are here illegally. About 2 million undocumented aliens in Los Angeles County alone are crowding emergency rooms because they can't afford to see a doctor.
According to the State Association of Hospitals (search), California's public health system is "on the brink of collapse." In Los Angeles County, patients can wait four days for a hospital bed and up to two years for gallbladder surgery.
Give our hospitals to illegal immigrants . . . and be done with it!
Kaye Grogan Kaye Grogan
May 10, 2005
If you're an "undocumented" illegal immigrant, and you need medical attention — well, get on the "gravy train" for free healthcare compliments of our government, and struggling taxpayers to the tune of $1 billion smackeroos, set aside for your medical costs in six states. There's only one small hurdle, but I'm sure you've already had a lot of practice in getting past the hurdle before. It is quite simple: just don't admit that you're an illegal immigrant. And to help you beat the system and get by with your illegal activity — congress has ordered the "don't ask" policy to hospital staffs throughout the nation. You even have the blessing from our president to continue breaking the law. Now that's what I call eastern, western, northern and southern hospitality!
Only in America can the law-abiding citizens' feet be held to the fire, while foreigners are practically begged to break the laws here in America. We are definitely earning the reputation to be categorized as a bunch of losers and pushovers to other countries.
Just recently, Dr. Mark McClellan, the administrator of Medicaid and Medicare services, gave the command that under no circumstances should hospital staff be required to ask sick people whether or not they are U.S. citizens. My, don't you wish you had someone like that overseeing that you are provided excellent medical care when you go to the hospital, if you don't have health insurance?
Immigration-control advocates regard the U.S.-born infants as "anchor babies" because they give their undocumented parents and relatives a way to petition for citizenship. They estimate that 360,000 of these babies are born in the U.S. every year and warn that the numbers are rising.
Undocumented immigrants say they are being attacked unfairly and think that all children born in the U.S. should have equal rights.
Socorro Gonzalez, an undocumented immigrant who in August gave birth to her fourth child on U.S. soil, said she and her husband aren't trying to take advantage of immigration laws or abuse the health care system.
''We're not here to have a child. We are here to work," she said as she cradled her infant son, Orlando Soto.
Gonzalez, 42, said she moved to South Texas four years ago to join her husband, a cabinet maker. Two of their older children were born at a private midwife's clinic, she said, and two were delivered at taxpayer expense at hospitals in McAllen.
Gonzalez said the benefits of undocumented immigrants' labor in the U.S. more than compensate for the costs of their medical bills.
On a blistering day in May, US Border Patrol agents in southern California's Imperial County found a man collapsed in the desert. The 39-year-old had successfully sneaked across the border from Mexico, only to succumb to heat stroke. The agents called an ambulance to take him to nearby El Centro Regional Medical Center, where he spent two days in intensive care and several more in recuperation. The agents didn't come back for him, so he left with relatives bound for Los Angeles -- leaving the hospital with his unpaid bill for $26,890.
No one at El Centro Regional was surprised. The public hospital is losing more than $1 million a year treating undocumented immigrants, many of whom were injured trying to cross the border -- people who've broken bones jumping from the 20-foot border fence in Calexico, nearly drowned trying to swim the All-American Canal, or become dehydrated in the Imperial Valley desert.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
It's so sick it's funny
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