The Infamous Memo
In all it's glory:
Well, he kind of addresses the fact that too many squad cars don't have new updated PDT's. The rah-rah of "patrolling smarter" is standard boilerplate. What's up with "The Chicago Police Department is mission oriented" drivel? Does that even make sense? It sounds like someone who's been middle management their whole career and needs something catchy to say that doesn't actually mean anything.
We can see where many people took offense at the opening statement of paragraph two:
Well, he kind of addresses the fact that too many squad cars don't have new updated PDT's. The rah-rah of "patrolling smarter" is standard boilerplate. What's up with "The Chicago Police Department is mission oriented" drivel? Does that even make sense? It sounds like someone who's been middle management their whole career and needs something catchy to say that doesn't actually mean anything.We can see where many people took offense at the opening statement of paragraph two:
- The days of handing out cars [sic] keys and sending cars out to just ride around are long gone.
That's a pretty big brush to be painting a lot of people with. Most coppers are pretty self motivated - they didn't take this job just to ride around, but that type of individual does seem to be more prevalent nowadays. Why is that?
Perhaps it's more a failure of leadership than a failing of police officers? Perhaps the mission has become faulty? The vision blurred? The goals compromised? Everything seems driven by numbers. We're too tired to actually parse this thing at the moment, but we thought we'd put it up so everyone else could take a shot at it.
Perhaps it's more a failure of leadership than a failing of police officers? Perhaps the mission has become faulty? The vision blurred? The goals compromised? Everything seems driven by numbers. We're too tired to actually parse this thing at the moment, but we thought we'd put it up so everyone else could take a shot at it.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
122 Comments:
They don't call him "Charlie Box-O-Rocks" for nothing.
What can you expect for motivation when you got people like this in charge who don't trust, don't like and don't care about the cops on the street.
God save us from bosses like this.
Is this the guy that is supposed to lead us if we have a terrorist attack or is he the one who said it is, "impractical" to train us?
What a joke! the whole top management is a failure! some of the problems from the top: all the women who dropped moral, the promtions by clout and lies about "MERIT", no balls bosses, no one giving a shit about the street cops. to many prissy units not enoough beat cops. no time due! taking away court timr for impounding vehicles. ETC...
I still don't know what a Level I DOC is.
Its like a 7th grader who doesn't know what an adjective is.
Me fail english?
And a Level II DOC? Is that like a Level I DOC to the second power?
Don't laugh, I really have no clue.
say it with me monkey,
"MORON"
sorry big CW, crime is not down because of those stupid DOC zones or that totally not needed DOC unit. Why do they call the districts for info and then tell that district to come to a DOC meeting to get that info? Why, because another clout position had to be made up.
Crime is down because officers take the car keys and drive around. When they see crime or suspicious activity they do something about it. Even with morale so low and getting lower everyday, these officers give a damn because that is why they got on this job.
i became a boss hoping i could do my part for morale but i get rained down on by inspectors and commanders for total b.s. that i have to keep morale down to keep my job.
okay, i hate long posts CW. So in ending, crime is down. Thank you officers. Do whatever it is you are doing. Bosses at 35th, stop micromanaging, put the decision making back in the hands of the D/C. The DOC is an insult to the D/C and every officer in the district. No one needs to tell them what is going on in their district, they are out there every day, they know. Argh. Monkey rub my shoulders and calm me down please.
Are we really a mission driven organization? If so, what is the mission? Do we determine where crimes are going to occur or do we respond to them after the fact. Is the fire department mission driven? Do they concentrate their efforts on where a fire might happen? Do they go randomly hose down buildings that look they could catch on fire?
Isn't "just riding around" when you're not on a call called "patrol"?
Maybe my "mission" is just riding around being a presence.(Operation Closed Market)
most of the time what your really look for, you never find...
Gosh, don't I miss the days when they handed me cars (?) keys and I got to ride around aimlessly all day or night! And when I worked tac, who knew we should have been addressing gang or narcotics problems?? And you guys and gals working traffic--thank God you now know that you should be addressing traffic problems like speeding!! And now that I'm a supervisor, do you really mean I should be assuring that my people are doing their job? Thank goodness that condescending prick CW is around to set us straight. However did any real police work get done before him and his precious mission boards?
The job sux keep beating yourselves over the head with a hammer. It's only going to get worse!!
What a bunch of bull. I am glad I left that department and went to a nice suburb, who treat us like kings. Hang in there guys. Do the minimum, and get outta there.
Stay Safe!!
I dont get it. Why is everyone in an uproar over this? Isnt this what we were supposed to be doing anyway?
Here is a link to the Charles Williams School of fighting Crime.
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html
Great morale booster for the great guys in patrol. This memo makes me want to puke.
WE MISS YOU MAUER!!!!
My partners and I are on a mission from God........we're putting da band back together.
Perhaps thats what he did (drive around aimlessly)when he was a P/O,but I would hardly call what we do"just driving around",where the hell has he been.
The days of handing out cars [sic] keys and sending cars out to just ride around are long gone\...........................\\\
Hey Charlie, you did not do $h1t when you were in a Patrol car (you remember those?) All you did was ride around when your partners wanted to work. Charlie KMA!
"Yeah, all y'all white poleeces
go out n' git me sum mo' headz. I wanna see mo' activity. All y'all dark skindid poleeces carry on chattin', eatin', smokin', hollerin', n' keepin' tings real. Y'all deserve a break from workin' so hardz n shit."
"The days of handing out car keys and sending cars out to 'JUST' ride around"
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A absolute fucking slap in the face.. I've been working in patrol my entire 20 year career in busy districts. The ONLY driving around we did was from endless asshole jobs attempting to settle the problems of sub-par semi-human beings with their bullshit domestics, disturbances, attempting to get 20 year-old crack-head mothers to take care of their damn 10 kids.
FUCK HIM!! May he go to hell and drive in endless circles wondering why the fucking PDTs don’t work DOWN THERE.
I hear that the criminals go into hiding when a Wolfpack is taking place. What a SUCCESS!!
I equally love the TRU's "GET 'EM & GO" missions. Such quality arrests taking place there. Their arrests get bonded out before they leace the statuion. Fuck*** retards!! What an embarrassment to all the fine Officers who do quality police work.
Disarm the many, to save the few.
I too, take offense to CW making such a statement. How insulting to the hard working members of the Chicago Police Department.
Beat problems - Beat plans
DSOP's
District Hot Spots
Violence Zones
Super Zones
Level I DOC
Level II DOC
... with all of this crap you never hear the basic fundamental of beat integrity or even sector integrity anymore, do you?
... and now we are mission driven?
To those (at the puzzle palace)that just beamed down from the Enterprise... We have always been mission driven.
20-some years ago a wise ole sergeant at the academy said we could sum up our job in two words... "order maintenance."
It is our job, our mission, to maintain order... to serve and protect. The concept is fairly simple, even if the job is not.
With all of that crap I listed at the top, I think the average joe has lost track of the real mission in the midst of all that confusion.
The bean counters can't even keep up with all of the different spins they are giving us. Now they want the average joe to serve as a statistical analyst in addition to fighting crime and/or evil? The priorities of bean counting have now taken over the priorities of crime fighting.
The real mission has been lost, wouldn't you say? Enough of the smoke and mirrors. Isn't time to get back to basics?
But I digress...
[Now returning you to your regulary scheduled programming...]
RON HUBERMAN,DALEY'S CHIEF OF STAFF WAS THE CITY OFFICIAL WHO MADE THE STATEMENT:"IT IS IMPRACTICAL TO TRAIN EVERY POLICE OFFICER ON HOW TO RESPOND TO A TERRORIST ATTACK".HE MADE THAT STATEMENT ON THE "PHIL PONCE SHOW" ON CH. 11.HE WAS DIRECTOR OF OEMC AT THE TIME.
As usual, you're all cry babies; just do your job! There is no insult anywhere in the memo.
Yeah, we used to get keys and leave the station without a department approved mission in mind.
Some of us had a plan for the day (go mess with gangbangers on some corner or look for guns, or whatever) and some of us had a plan to do as little as possible until it's time to go home.
Now they have a plan for all of us; some of us do it, some don't; what's changed.
You guys are a bunch of overly sensitive babies; grow up.
If it's so bad; retire or quit. Half this department wouldn't survive in the private sector.
It's great to stop in and visit the cry babies on occasion; absolutely nothing changes here.
You guys have almost the exact same responses for just about everything.
The site is sprinkled with some intelligent responders, but very few.
The rest of you repeatedly show the world why you are a civil serveant because you're too dumb to do anything else.
I love it!
That memo is about as cool as Wolfpacking. Those are probably the stupidest things I have heard. You are right, our Equipment sucks, the cars are falling apart, the pdt's never work, most of our stations are worse than project buildings. Yet here he comes trying to shove shit like this down on the beat guys and the tact teams. Beat guys handle all your jobs, do all your paper then go to violence suppression missions. Whatever.
It is truely a joke. In my Dist on days I have the school checks (7), park checks (3) and High School dismissal (1), that's roughly 3 hours of my day, 1/2 hour roll call, lunch, etc; so on a good day I'm out there on patrol for less than 1/2 my tour. All of the above is "directed" from 35th ST. Then there are the seat belt missions, POD missions, DOC missions, special attentions. All of this says one thing, down town is convinced that all cops are lazy sacks of shit that must to steered by bosses every minute of every day. Here's a proposition, if patrolmen are that incapable, then fire us and hire people who require less mircomanagement...Oh that's right YOU managers are the ones who hired us in the first place, so your policies indict you for your own incompetence, congrats you pompous assholes
I'll put my activity up against that of this affirmitive action poster boy any day. But remember who elevated him to the spot he's in-yep, Hinchys pal...
haven't we been following the boards for the passed - ergh - 11 years or so through the CAPS model?
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH --- NO MATTER WHAT THAY SAY - WE ARE GOING OUT TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO ANYWAY
Charlie is not a bad guy. I know him personally. However, the job, society, politics, etc... they all blow. If you have any time on the job you see coppers, bosses, etc.. all changing!! I've got 20 years on the job. I have friends who are big bosses. They tell me you should see the ORDERS they get from THEIR bosses!
It's only going to get worse!! Deal with it or QUIT. Sad (and sorry) but true!!
I was going to e-mail that To-From to you SCC, but I see your on the ball, good job!
As for CW, he must have been a real dog when he was in Patrol. After more then twenty years on the job it has been my experience that the bigger the Jagoff that a boss is the bigger the pooch he or she was as a patrolman.
This guy is all about hurting the non-clouted working P/O to further his own interests. F^%$ him! He personally got up and told the Sergeants at their in-service training that they are not out there to be “friends” with the P/O’s and if the P/O’s hate them (Sergeants) then too bad. Nice way to build camaraderie within the department, goof!
I never just grabbed the keys and rode around for eight hours before, but I am going to begin. What is my mission? To burn city gas and mark time until retirement. How do you like me now?!
Everyone of these knucklehead bosses thinks they have to reinvent the fucking wheel.
to: C. Williams,
"The days of handing out cars [sic] keys and sending cars out to just ride around are long gone." This statement is an insult to all the men and women who are truly street cops. Sure, there are some bad apples but every job has a few.
Has it been that long or have you even worked a beat car to remember that what it is like?
And the missions pretty much have no meaning except to hold a car down for a few hours or a tour and keep coppers in an out of service status. More police on the street keep crime down not statistics on paper.
The City should really consider getting a psychic to run the Department. He or she could see where the needs are and deploy sufficient people to cover the need. The psychic would know who's heart is pure and now that I think about it that could wipe out city Government, police command structure and a big part of the department. Nevermind
Lombard and Wilmette are hiring 70k after 5 years and no age cut off.
I guess beat 811 will never get police service because its never in a level 1 or 2 deployment. The level 1 & 2 deployment stuff is BS it does noting. More police services wasted to people who get free heat, and flash gang signs behind reporters when they are reporting the death of another honore student that was supposed to go to the NBA.
After reading this memo, beside thinking the author is an IDIOT, it sounds like a person captivated by the sound of his own voice. He isn't saying anything that any good beat cop or Supervisor already knows. If you know your beat, you know what happens where, and when something does happen, you have a dam good idea who did it. All I can say to CHUCKIE, is "THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS" Maybe he has a crush on his secretary and wanted to DICktate a letter so she would think he's smart.
The reason there are coppers out there that don't do shit, is they know the city will not back them up. Trust me, they are the smart ones.
You wanna hear the best?? Some stupid jagoff sergeant in 023 on the midnights last night goes down on a "Fire Mission"......nothing like sucking a little for the bosses because someone died in a fire the night before! Mission this>>>>>>>
Is it just me, or are the initials C.W. just mean trouble!
Cynthia White
Charlie Williams
Hey! How about another one?
Can't Win
Coppers Wronged
Clout Wins...
Any more?
All this whining about PDTs and other missing gear. Do you officers not get uniform checks? Buy your own gear.
This memo says nothing except what he believes all of us should be doing. The problem here is that it almost sounds like he believes the majority of us do nothing. So, because he believes we do nothing, we should be assigned missions. I think overall most of us go out everyday and actually do something. DSOP's, DOC's, Beat Missions, I don't get it. I'm gonna get something wherever I find it. As beat officers, we can't just focus on their bullshit missions. We also take the calls. Traffic accidents, fires, batteries, DOA's, and all the other unpredictable bullshit. When was the last time any of these higher ups actually walked into someone's dirty, roach infested house, in the ghetto, in the middle of the night, while everyone inside is drunk and high, and had to handle a domestic battery call and control the situation while the animals are shouting and acting uncivilized? Many of us can recall when we had plenty of nights (or days) where the calls kept coming and coming. Now, these days we may not have written any tickets, made any arrests, or found any curfews, but we surely didn't just take the car keys and ride around all day doing nothing. SCC has said it before and it's true, these bosses have just lost reality and lost touch of what actually goes on. Maybe the problem isn't with the PO's, but with the leadership. There are too many bosses that are scared, assholes, self-absorbed and concerned about their own agenda , or just plain stupid. There are some great bosses out there and I thank God for that, but like a previous poster once wrote about, when was the last time the Dept and bosses actually did something to boost the morale of its officers?
i used to do police work and the use of the car was to transport my prisoners/arrestees now i look at the vehicle as a gas powered shopping cart
i was going to do some quality police work but i havent been invited to join the wolfpack so i guess im just going to drive around in circles..CW you may have won the biggest douche in the universe award..let the police go be the police without all this nonsense
whats a "get em n go " ?
Remember to say ok boss, great idea, then go about your business.
You know, I was in the DOC and saw no crimes to intervene in. How can we prevent crime if we can't see it?
Crime is a state of mind.
If we are doing it incorrectly,
come lead from the front, not
an office.
19-paul covers it all.
To the guy or gal that doesnt know what the D.O.C. is
Level I is the area of your district where aggravated batteries occured LAST WEEK along with the made up ficticious gang intelligence that is made up by your district gang team members combined with more fiction from the gang intelligence unit.
Level II is a designated area in the AREA where the most aggraveted batteries occured LAST WEEK based on the same perameters.only LEVEL II gets flooded with extra man power TRU SOS SAT and TACT TEAMS.
So to recap LEVEL I = designated by District. Level II designated by Area. We now respond one full week after the fact in so doing our mission to supress crime takes a week.
Just to add to your problems:
Ever heard of the M.I.N.S. (MAJOR INCIDENT NOTIFION SYSTEM) you can look at that to see the previous days or shifts major incidents in your district or area if your a Lt or above but not a P.O. or SGT.
What are you talking about. Us black people don't want him! Yes, their is one black well half black person that reads this site. He is not one of us, so please stop comparing my ancestors to him. He does not identify with blacks. Where have you been? I bet he is realizing right now that he really is from the race he hates because I heard Cline tore him a new ass when he started blatently directing his attention to the elite people.
I didn't like the way that was worded one bit. The days of passing out car keys and just riding around are over. What the fuck!!!
Pdt's. Shit I still don't have one of the old pdt's in my car let alone a "new one". I'd love to have at least the old one, cause waiting for aboput 20 minutes for my incompetant dispatcher to get back to me with my info is unacceptable.
Hire more fucking cops. Then we won't have a back log everyday. Moral will increase, officer safety won't be as much of an issue as it is today, their will be more backup and officers on scenes, coppers will be able to get that 2 on the end or take the day off when their kid is in the school play. Crime will reduce because their is more police on the streets. More coppers will be able to do more traffic stops, street stops, surveillances, etc and lock more people up because they aren't tied down on job after job from the start of the tour to the very end with no lunch to boot.
Fucking wolf packing. What a fucking stupid move.
To scc - keep up the good work but I hope you don't get flack from the dept for showing a dept memo on this site for "all" to see. Watch your back and don't give those pukes in the dept any ammo to come after you.
Seriously, Think about it. The only people on this department that drive around aimlessly are the bosses. Way back in the day, bosses had marked cars with their rank plastered on the side door. Now they have unmarked cars solely for the purpose of driving around aimlessly.
i heard inspectors will be stopping the working police and asking them what their mission is if you dont know then u get written up any truth to this?????????
I gotta be honest with you, I don't really see what all the fuss is about. I've been a patrolman for just over 13 years and I didn't take this as a personal insult in any way. I don't see why anyone would. Kinda seems like anything Williams says or does gets hammered by some of you. I'm not defending the guy, I just don't see the big deal this time.
I can't say that Charlie Williams is completely wrong when it comes to the memo. If I don't give certain cars an actual TASK after roll call, everyone knows they will come in with goose eggs.
Granted, most two man teams out there are motivated to make some sort of difference on the beat, but more than a few exist who can cause a Sgt. to pull their hair out. And I won't even go into the officers who will try to tell me what they won't do ("I don't go to court, Sarge, I don't do traffic court"). Yeah, when you retire.
Until then, everyone on my log is a full service police officer. Nothing else is acceptable, and the W/C won't give the dogs the time of day!
Hey charlie,
What is soon for the new pdt's a month 6 months a year or longer. But those new pdts don't work so good. they keep going down and are out of service for long periods at a time. those districts with the old pdts cant get them fixed and the districts with the new pdts wont release there old ones. THIS IS A FAILURE OF MANAGMENT THAT MEANS LOOK IN THE MIRROR CHARLIE. you sir talk a good game and write a crappy memo but you are fooling no one the Chicago police have to get it done with smoke and mirrors because our cutting edge tech isn't deployed rarely works when deployed and was out of date second hand crap when you bought it from some alderman's cousin or half sister. Charlie Dana and phil are the joke but its not funny. Phil hurry up and just promote little matt so you can get out of here, you have become a huge disappointment
Hey Charlie,
In my district we would be happy just to have enough of the old PDTs to go around.
I agree! have ALL cars go down on missions and get heads! When there is a back log in every district in the city.......See what happens!
I have heard that in 016 the main concern for the midnight 06 car is curfews??? Shouldn't it be burglaries or theft from autos??? Anyone have any info on this???? UNREAL
Some of my best arrests have been when I just felt like grabbing the keys and driving around!
Take away the first two sentances and the to-from somewhat makes sense.....do the job you are assigned to do. Beat car patrol and handle beat problems, rapids supplement the beat cars. Tact address problem areas in the district, Gangs address gang issues and learn the players. Specialized units, traffic, narcotics, etc. concentrate efforts on the jobs thier units are named for. It all makes perfect sense.
Problem is the first two sentences that are offensive to anyone who has been more that an inside man his whole career. We are a department of individuals, some stereotypical, who need endless general orders to outline the simplest tasks and tell us how to do our jobs. Why, because so many people who call themselves Police Officers can't make a simple decision, follow direction, or complete something without being told to do it and complaining endlessly.
To clearify, Williams writes a memo that doesn't need to be written, pounds his chest to show off as he berates Sergeants telling them the importance of not violating Rule 14, all while killing more trees to print more useless guidlines to tell us how to behave.
Here is a thought. Change the hiring practice to reflect people who are willing to be the Police, stop being a reactionary Department more in fear of litigation than protecting its own for performing thier jobs, and stop producing "leadership" so removed from Patrol that they have no link to what is current practice on the street. In trade, have coppers that stop bitching about every little thing, take some initiative to be the Police without thinking that every white shirt is out to get you or will leave you hanging,
and stop making decisions based on what the lawyers are going to think. Go out there and make arrests, write a ticket or two, "f" with the local sh*theads, and if a boss tells you to do something within the scope of your job, just do it.
Above all, stop pounding your chest screaming how great of a cop you are while everyone else sucks. Otherwise you are no different than CW, the inside man who is the object of your ridicule.
I'm glad you posted the whole letter. I've been on the medical and did not see it in the C.O. book. I think the sentence was totally taken out of context.
Let's talk about some good bosses. Mike Stack in 011. Doesn't get any better than that.
And may I add CW - while all the beat cars are down on missions for who knows what all, who's going to take the dispatch jobs and how is even the slightest beat integrity going to be maintaned????? What ever happened to serving the citizens and their right to police service?????
I was walking around the city* on Sunday, it was a beautiful day & there were a bunch of cute girls everywhere and it got me thinking that this shit is meaningless. There's simply more to life.
In the immortal words of Jeff Spicoli, "All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine".
I don't know anyone & I don't owe anybody. Yet I have a degree and with minimal effort I find a gig where I can be making the same amount of money & avoid working midnights alongside the beast.
city* = denotes not the south side.
PS - What's this "Wolfpack" stuff? Sounds pretty gay to me.
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Awesome. The letter is a bunch of bullshit.
WOLF PACK WOLF PACK YOU STILL WONT LEAVE THE TEAM AND GO BACK 2 THE WATCH...
IT SUCK HAVING TO WORK 8 HRS AND NOT DUCK OUT.
Charlie, believe it or not, I am an Exempt member of this Police Department and see you several times a week. Many of us are getting tired of taking the flack for your senseless memos filled with ridiculous statements. Just remember, Charlie, 90% of the time your views in no way reflect the views of the rest of the Exempt staff. Please speak for yourself and remember that you are being watched for several of your recent implementations that have caused many good officers a lot of grief. One day when we are both retired, I hope I have the chance to tell you in person what I have always thought of you without you seeking internal revenge through Department channels.
THIS JUST IN !!!
DETECTIVE DIVISION WILL ONLY BE ASSIGNEDCASES IN THE DOC ALL OTHERS WILL BE IGNORED.
He is who we thought he was - crown his ass!
Have you ever noticed that you never see ret. Sgt. John "I have no clout" Northern and Charlie "box of rocks" Williams at the same time.
Could it be?
Is it true?
I am STARTING to believe that it is true!
They are one and the same!!!
OLD CLOUT NEVER DIES IT JUST MORFS INTO SOMETHING ELSE. LOL
Attention. Attention. News Flash. Tru now expanding by 80 new officers. But remember don’t come in early for check off because this is what is causing the backlog. Right Charlie. Please.
While the memo could be read as painting with an overly-broad brush, I too think its being taken out of context.
Note who its addressed to. I'm reading it as telling supervisors that their people should have a mission every day. As in, if you are a radio car and you aren't on calls or helping someone else or whatever, than you should have one or two or three specific missions. A particular corner or block or pattern or whatever. Something. And your sergeant should be checking to make sure you are doing that something.
One reason for this guys. ALL of the scandals of the last few years where the public would look and think "who the hell was in charge of these guys anyway?" Think of whole tact teams, SOS guys, and anyone else.
So what I'm reading is him telling supervisors that their people better have something to do, and the supervisors better make sure their people are actually doing it.
On the other hand, I'd love to know what the "mission" is for the unsupervised and inside thousands.
to-
Anonymous said...
i heard inspectors will be stopping the working police and asking them what their mission is if you dont know then u get written up any truth to this?????????
3/11/2007 03:49:00 PM
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Now there is,
Thanks!
The Tact Lt. in my District was the Acting W/C one day. He comes down to roll call and reads the roll. Then he tells us that today we will do NO seatbelt missions, sector deployments or any of that. He says we're going to do what we haven't done in a long time - go out, hunt the bad guy and lock him up. Sounds like police work to me.
TO: Anonymous said...
Let's talk about some good bosses. Mike Stack in 011. Doesn't get any better than that.
3/11/2007 05:55:00 PM
I'll second that....Keep it up Mike...
to 8:33 this site is for the police/which you are not.we don't get motivatied by a memo;ol boy with a pistol or fresh pack lights our fuse. Appreciate your insight, but, send it to the reader. All my guys out there/work hard, go home and hug anyone close to you. it's a small,beautiful family. old timer from area four
Anonymous said...
Charlie, believe it or not, I am an Exempt member of this Police Department and see you several times a week. Many of us are getting tired of taking the flack for your senseless memos filled with ridiculous statements. Just remember, Charlie, 90% of the time your views in no way reflect the views of the rest of the Exempt staff. Please speak for yourself and remember that you are being watched for several of your recent implementations that have caused many good officers a lot of grief. One day when we are both retired, I hope I have the chance to tell you in person what I have always thought of you without you seeking internal revenge through Department channels.
3/11/2007 08:16:00 PM
Hey Boss,for real,those he go on this site?...If so, hey Charlie!,FUCK YOU,DICKHEAD!
Anonymous said...
Charlie, believe it or not, I am an Exempt member of this Police Department and see you several times a week. Many of us are getting tired of taking the flack for your senseless memos filled with ridiculous statements. Just remember, Charlie, 90% of the time your views in no way reflect the views of the rest of the Exempt staff. Please speak for yourself and remember that you are being watched for several of your recent implementations that have caused many good officers a lot of grief. One day when we are both retired, I hope I have the chance to tell you in person what I have always thought of you without you seeking internal revenge through Department channels.
3/11/2007 08:16:00 PM
Hey Boss,Pleeeeease dont wait to tell him off!! I vote this guy for the next supt.!!!!
Attention Wolfpack:
Even a man who is pure in heart
and says his prayers by night
may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms
and the autumn moon is bright.
You wanna hear the best?? Some stupid jagoff sergeant in 023 on the midnights last night goes down on a "Fire Mission"......nothing like sucking a little for the bosses because someone died in a fire the night before! Mission this>>>>>>>
3/11/2007 01:37:00 PM
Great idea! I love it, reminds me of my days in the infantry! "Dragon 61 this is Wolf 1, fire mission, over. 3510 S. Michigan, bosses in the open, fire for effect, over."
I'm glad you posted the whole letter. I've been on the medical and did not see it in the C.O. book. I think the sentence was totally taken out of context.
3/11/2007 05:28:00 PM
YOU must be one of CW's boys! When you going back on the medical ya dog?
Anonymous said...
Have you ever noticed that you never see ret. Sgt. John "I have no clout" Northern and Charlie "box of rocks" Williams at the same time.
Could it be?
Is it true?
I am STARTING to believe that it is true!
They are one and the same!!!
OLD CLOUT NEVER DIES IT JUST MORFS INTO SOMETHING ELSE. LOL
3/11/2007 09:29:00 PM
I have noticed a similarity between these two "Clout babies"!!
Happy St. Paddys day John....LOL
TO: Anonymous said...
Let's talk about some good bosses. Mike Stack in 011. Doesn't get any better than that.
3/11/2007 05:55:00 PM
I'll second that....Keep it up Mike...
3/11/2007 10:10:00 PM
For sure, we've had some great sgts. come thru the last few years, unfortunately most don't last long, any others we've had that anyone want's to add to this list?
All this whining about PDTs and other missing gear. Do you officers not get uniform checks? Buy your own gear.
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Well unlike you whose uniform I am sure does not wear out, I buy new uniforms with the UNIFORM money.
Level I and II are dumb reactive moves that waste time and manpower for the civilians. They should send the whole DOC unit over to TRU! Then maybe they'll have a clue! Last time I checked there were a bunch of broads looking at a map trying to figure out where to send people. You might as well as bring out a crystal ball or a Tarot card reader, they are just as effective!
Hey Boss thats an exempt member----You say you and several other exempts don't like some statements which C.W. has made---Well, what happened to all your "balls" Stand UP! Thats what being a leader is about! If you do it together what's going to happen all you guys/girls lose your exempt rank---I Don't think so. Superintendant Cline I think you should be aware of this disension amoung your exempt rank and do something about it---its your responsibility---When you all have meetings doesn't anyone say how they really feel or is everyone just kissing butt. This is how tyrant leaders are made--other leaders too afraid to stand up for what is right. Have some gumption!!
CW super policeman! I will think of that memo when i start my tour, leave roll call get coffee and paper, then have to get fuel, have to get a car wash. Does the car need any work oh no spot light out wait for r-man don't want to drive a car without all safety equip working, looks like tire tread is amiss going for new tire. 20 min personal time, lunch, personal again. time to go home. hey charlie you have to know the rules before you break the rules it makes it more fun doesn't it!
3/11/2007 03:27:00 PM
This is true! Why do bosses have car plates ontheir cars? this costs the citizens more money why not M plate all their cars and the inspectors also so the general public would know there are more police, and hell give them all marked cars to raise the public conscience into believing we have more police yea thats the ticket!
Chuck Williams and Cynthia White are two meritorious promotions that should be revoked.
The individual that nominated them should have his head examined!
But then they both came out of the IAD and it was the head goof at the IAD who nominated them, it figures.
Williams is currently working on resurrecting that long-rescinded general order entitled "Department Procedures In The Event of a Nuclear Detonation".
If off-duty or on furlough, will we still have to report to our district of residence? I think we should proceed directly to "Ground Zero"?
To 8:16:00:
If you truly are an Exempt, you are my HERO. Your short (and well-written, I might add) post encapsulates how this Department truly runs---open your mouth and pay for it forever. It doesn't matter if what you say is the truth. If it hurts someone's ego, watch out.
Boss, I'd work for you anytime, anywhere. Thanks.
Radarman says;
I'm glad I know my mission now. I thought I was suppose to help motorists who were broke down on the side of the road (like AAA). Now I can order a tow and take their car away and make money for the city. Thanks CW. (you asshat)
Morale is in the shitter, ask ANY beat cop.
Perhaps because all of our "leaders" are clout and merit hacks who only look out for their selected few.
The current bosses on this job are enough to making a working PO puke.
Anonymous said...
"Yeah, all y'all white poleeces
go out n' git me sum mo' headz. I wanna see mo' activity. All y'all dark skindid poleeces carry on chattin', eatin', smokin', hollerin', n' keepin' tings real. Y'all deserve a break from workin' so hardz n shit."
3/11/2007 12:53:00 AM
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LOL
You're right!! I'm going to buy my own PDT gas up the squad at Citgo, get the front end alligned so I can drive without a 10' list to port.
Oh wait, I forgot!!
I AM NOT AN IDIOT!!!
You my Friend are a tool
The only thing a smart PO does anymore is answer the radio and back up other POs
"Hey, turn down the DVD player I have to get an event #"
5:32 a.m.
If I could buy my own radio and ptd I'd do it in a heartbeat. Also, I would love to enroll in the "take-home" car program (that many other agency's have)whereby you get a new police vehicle and take care of it as if it were your own.
Because I'm sick of getting a new beat car and then returning from RDO to find that some asshole decided to cut chunks out of the steering wheel with their pocket knife..now I have to drive the piece of shit around for the next 4-5 years like that!
Let me get my own gear and I'll take care of it..Thanks
Anonymous said...
You wanna hear the best?? Some stupid jagoff sergeant in 023 on the midnights last night goes down on a "Fire Mission"......nothing like sucking a little for the bosses because someone died in a fire the night before! Mission this>>>>>>>
3/11/2007 01:37:00 PM
so the sgt gets told to do a fire mission and they are a jagoff for doing what they are told???
All this whining about PDTs and other missing gear. Do you officers not get uniform checks? Buy your own gear.
3/11/2007 01:42:00 PM
another candidate for moron of the hour. leave the messages to the coppers honey and back away slowly.
Dragon 61, Shot out.....Dragon 61, shot over....Goddamnit 61, they're still there, confirm grid and adjust fire. Must be a boss firing.
I have a specific mission in kind.How about targeting corruption:MERIT promotions,nepotism,favortism,gang infiltration.
Thank you CW for spelling it out to this new generation of cops. Theres more to police work than highlighting your hair and putting gel in it. Lots of tough guys with leather gloves, doesnt it make it harder to hold a comb? Roll up your uniform sleeves with your 8 inch biceps, 00000hhh Im so scared just thinking of you backing me up. Post shit on the web instead of facing the person. Hey Im a copper and a blogger....big f*ckin' deal. Wah wah wah....he goes home early, she's f*ckin' him, that boss sucks, I want to move out of the City...grow the F*CK up you college educated, breast fed, backward wearing baseball cap, tough guys. Go hang out at Dugan's and tell your "stoies" to some drunken bitch. We are not impressed.
"Anonymous said...
The Tact Lt. in my District was the Acting W/C one day. He comes down to roll call and reads the roll. Then he tells us that today we will do NO seatbelt missions, sector deployments or any of that. He says we're going to do what we haven't done in a long time - go out, hunt the bad guy and lock him up. Sounds like police work to me.
3/11/2007 09:57:00 PM"
Right, sweet, and 8 hours later the entire watch checked off with 7 parkers, 2 movers, and 4.25 hours off foot patrol. Gimme a break assbag.
I totally agree with this memo. We shouldn't be given keys and drive around aimlessly. C.W. is right guys. We should get the keys, drive to a safe spot and get some good quality reading done, about 8 hours worth.
BUY OUR OWN PDT'S???? WHAT ARE YOU SOME KIND OF MENTAL MIDGET? WELL, COME TO THINK OF IT IF I PUT .25 CENTS AWAY EVERYDAY I WILL EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO AFFORD A NEW PDT..PLUS THE 4 YEARS IT WOULD TAKE TO AQUIRE THE NEEDED FUNDS MYSELF, WOULD STILL EASILY BEAT THE DEPARTMENTS TIME FRAME HA HA FREAKING HA HA
"Hey, turn down the DVD player I have to get an event #"
3/12/2007 10:38:00 AM
Funny Shit!
WHY DO I KEEP HEARING ABOUT ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY???? THIS DEPARTMENT IS SO FARRRRRRR BEHIND THE TIMES IT'S AMAZING, WE CAN FINALLY CARRY BETTER HANDGUNS EVENTUALLY AS SOON AS THE RETARDS IN RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT STOP STROKING THEIR PUDDS, THE NEW PDT'S ARE TAKING AN ETERNITY TO GET ESPECIALLY TO SPECIAL UNITS (GANG TEAMS, GUN TEAMS ETC.)(HELL THEY DONT EVEN HAVE THEIR OWN VEHICLES)AND WE ARE MOST LIKELY THE ONLY DEPARTMENT IN THE WORLD NOT ABLE TO CARRY AN ASSAULT RIFLE OR SHOTGUN.....SO SO SAD
The Keesing Bandit says----
To the guy that doesn't consider the south side part of the city----
If anyone should know whether the WOLFPACK is gay or not it should be a northsider like you---
Now, please exit Starbucks with your double latte and kees me you fool.
.......tough guys. Go hang out at Dugan's and tell your "stoies" to some drunken bitch. We are not impressed.
3/12/2007 12:11:00 PM
Whoa, lighten up Francis. Or you might burst that tube on your dark heart and not make it to your pension.
3/12/2007 12:11:00 PM
ARE YOU THAT CRANKY OLD GUY, WHOSE DRUNK BITCH I STOLE? SORRY. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
CW does not give a wit about anyone but himself. Just ask the 100+ men and women of the CFFP he sold out.
I guess beat 811 will never get police service because its never in a level 1 or 2 deployment. The level 1 & 2 deployment stuff is BS it does noting. More police services wasted to people who get free heat, and flash gang signs behind reporters when they are reporting the death of another honore student that was supposed to go to the NBA.
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This is true. RARELY do you see a beat car over here. They keep pulling the 10 sector cars to handle other sectors.
In the meantime, the thugs that are bussed in to Kennedy are taking over Wentworth Park and junking up the neighborhood.
But according to the Department, 100 more recruits in the Academy and the Department will be caught up with manpower (Ha)
All this whining about PDTs and other missing gear. Do you officers not get uniform checks? Buy your own gear.
You must not be the police. Fireman???
Where do we go to buy a PDT??? And how much does it cost???
Duh!!
Uniform checks are for shopping and vacations Silly.
The rest of you repeatedly show the world why you are a civil serveant because you're too dumb to do anything else.
I love it!
3/11/2007 08:33:00 AM
duhhhhh
civil serveant??? how about civil servant. We're too dumb? Don't post or berate or call us dumb if you can't spell...asshole.
What a fucking douche bag
Hard work = enrollment into the Behavioral Intervention System.
Kiss my Ass Charlie
I heard Dum Chuck was in IAD most of his career and bragged at a meeting with SGT's about how many cops he had fired while he was there. Anyone hear the same? This guy is supposed to be our leader?
Missions? You want to talk missions?
Come to a certain northside district, we are mission control
we run 25 missions a day
check the stats on I-clear, of the missions run city wide for the month of Feb, this particular district ran over 30% of them - CITYWIDE! Does anyone see a problem here? Are we running missions for the sake of running missions? Do we have a purpose or is this just a tool for the captains to use to say LOOK AT ME I CAN DO LOTS OF MISSIONS! Now when 35th street looks at the stats do they see 24 districts that are not pulling their weight or do they see a couple of captains in this district who have gone completely f#@^ing nuts? Meanwhile the lame duck commander lets the insanity continue because he probably thinks the mission totals will get him promoted one last time before they kick his ass out the door at the end of the year. The only thing that is getting accomplished is the troops are getting burnt out on mission after mission and the real purpose for running the missions is getting lost.
It seems to me that these missions are nothing more than a tool to try and get someone promoted to the next Sup.
Well sorry Charlie but there isnt a dam thing you can do to me. Im at work to answer my calls, thats it! Your not getting anything else out of me, and if you dont like it... Tough! Go back to IAD you RAT. The fellas from housing remember your comments about how proud you were for putting coppers in jail, your such a leader. Now let me get my BS community concern event numbers and duck jobs the rest of the tour.
GANG SHOOTING IN 016 AT NEVA AND CARMEN ON SUNDAY NIGHT. WITHIN 3 HRS ALL OFFENDERS WERE GAUGHT AND IN THE AREA. C.A.P.S. HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARRESTS OF THE OFFENDERS, JUST COPPPERS BEING GIVEN THE KEYS AND RIDING AROUND AIMLESSLY. SHAME ON YOU CW, BUT THEN AGAIN WHAT CAN WE EXPECT FROM BOSSES WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN THE POICE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
"Chuck was in IAD most of his career"
Two career tracks in the CPD,
1)Narcotics where it's not a matter of how much dope & money you recover, it's what you inventory.
2)IAD Where you circumvent investigations for guys in Narcotics or those connected.
One need look no further then the loveletters between Miedzianowski & Risley.
That's your CPD Command Leadership for the 21st Century,
complicit Bagmen nothing more...
Please, more details on the
shooting on Neva.
5 w's.
Well said Mr. Exempt!
It's too bad no one can open their mouth and say whats on their mind.
Problem is everyone in an exempt position is "exempt" from taking any test to get the job they have, but not "Exempt" from getting sent back to their civil service rank (usually Lt. since they don't seem to make Capt's exempt.) Therefore, all exempts learn to keep their mouths shut; and the cycle of silliness continues.
charlieba wilbaiamsba, heba beba aba goodba policeba! yes sir, mista benny!
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