Ron Hubermann, 6 years police officer named as head of the CTA? What the hell are his qualifications? Sitting at Richies beck and call for several years?
It never ceases to amaze me regarding the whining of coppers on this blog regarding women and monorities receiving preferential treatment. I am a minority who scored in the top fifty on the sergeant's exam, and I know at least 20 other minorites and women who scored in the top 100. I also made Detective via the 1999 test, all when everyone told me the "fix" was in. I even had a sergeant tell me point blank, that I could not be promoted because the process wasnt fair. If coppers would try to learn how to take the promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do better.
SCC, I read your site all the time. I think it a good source of info for what is really going on in the department (obviously filtering out unsubstantiated rumors and other stuff) but it really disheartens me the way some coppers talk about each other. I hope regardless of everyone's differences they treat their fellow officers with respect.
Although it is good to vent anonymously sometimes, I think it is better to talk to the person or supervisor you have a problem with and much of these simple disagreements can be easily resolved. I hope everyone looks out for each other and backs each other up. And as always, Stay Safe. ------------------------ T
I watched this cable show last night. It had been about a Boston Officer who was shot and killed in 87. And how the FBI tracked his killer down.
I went the the Officer down memorial page and reviewed some of Boston's police killed on/off duty by felony acts. I noticed a sick trend. Boston liberals free Boston cop killers.
Detective Sherman C. Griffiths eow 1988
The suspect, an illegal immigrant, was acquitted of murder charges in 1990 after his trial was moved to a different part of the state in a change-of-venue. After the trial the INS deported him back to his native Jamaica.
Officer Jeremiah J. Hurley Jr. EOW 1991
The bomb had been attached to the bottom of a car and fell off in the driveway. It was built by the bomber to kill his boyfriend's father. The bomb builder was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment, but that conviction was overturned and he was re-sentenced in 2007 to serve 37 years. The boyfriend was also convicted and served 12 years before being released.
Police Officer Thomas F. Rose EOW 1993
Officer Rose was shot and killed with his own weapon after letting an inmate out of his cell to make a phone call. The suspect was found guilty of voluntary manslaughter and sentenced to 26 - 30 years
Detective John James Mulligan EOW 1993
Detective Mulligan was shot and killed while working a private detail. He was shot five times in the face, execution style, as he sat in his car.
Two suspects were tried and convicted of first-degree murder in 1995, but one suspect had his conviction overturned in 2000 when he plea bargained for manslaughter. In February 2006, the suspect admitted his participation in the execution-style killing of Detective Mulligan. He is eligible for parole in summer 2006.
These sentences and paroles upon cop killers speak for themselves concerning Boston liberal Judges & Juries.
OFC.H FROM 014TH MIDNIGHTS IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT THIS DEPT HAS TO OFFER SHE DOESNT WORK 99 BECAUSE SHE SCARED WHY DID YOU TAKE THIS JOB SHE TELLS EVERYONE SHE WORKS WITH NOT TO LEAVE HER ALONG AND HAS RAN AWAY ON JOBS AND LEFT HER PARTNER OUT TO DRY NOT OUNCE BUT MANY TIMES SHE FOLLOWS PPO'S AROUND AND SHE HAS 5YRS ON WE AS A WATCH WILL CATER TO YOU NO LONGER FIND ANOTHER LINE OF WORK BEFORE YOU GET ONE OF US KILLED,EVERYONE IS SICK OF YOUR SHIT YOUR SPINELESS AND USELESS DOD FORBID ONE NIGHT WHEN YOUR SCHEDULED TO WORK 99 AND YOU RUN AND TELL THE SHIFT COMMANDER YOUR SCARED AND THEY BREAK UP PARTNERS SOMETHING DOESNT HAPPEN TO THAT PERSON WHO HAS TO WORK 99 BECAUSE OF YOU I HOPE YOUR NOT SCARED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THEIR FAMILY IF GOD FORBID SOMETHING DOES.
4/19/2007 03:40:00 PM
WOW Sounds just like P.O. J McL in 007 on 3rd watch Shes no better than her Det father who liked to steal pinches. He would get your offender RWOC and scoop the guy up a day later and lock him up
Ammo for practice? You don't need ammo for practice, just play a video game. It will help with reaction time. Besides, excessive shooting of firearms pollutes the air.
Questions who will be next Supt? Next 1st Dept? Now that huberman is out? How many people at cta will huberman fire and how many of daleys friends will he hire?
When will new contract be settled? will we get anything? when will fop adopt a healthcare agenda for the retired officers?
When will more street coppers be hired? disband tru and sos and put the coppers back in districts so we all can get time due!
Will the west end of 008 now that summer is approaching get some aggresive officers?
I have a gripe. What is the deal with these 10 minute long freight trains. I was out south yesterday and got caught by two of them. Isn't that a Public safety issue? Why can't they build over/underpasses on arterial streets?
Does anyone know where Mayor Daly's Army son is stationed? He never talks about it and it appears to be TOP SECRET. We know where the Prince from England is, what about Daly?
Ron Hubermann, 6 years police officer named as head of the CTA? What the hell are his qualifications? Sitting at Richies beck and call for several years?
is he on L.O.A he should resign.. is there other po's that were denied a L.O.A
How safe are the new district buildings? When things break, are they fixed right away or do they sit broken for weeks? I it possible for anyone to walk into a police area not open to the public. Are officers safety at risk? When you walk into a new building does anyone pick up their head to see who is walking in? What is the desk sgt doing?
"If you create a gun-free zone, you're liable for any harm it causes."
(NOTE: Copy of the bill follows.)
Originally called the Gun-Free-Zone Liability Act, this bill recognizes that gun-free zones, recklessly made and typically with no alternative security provided, are known to be extremely dangerous.
We have seen this recently in the Wakefield, Mass., slayings, the Luby's Massacre, and even the hijacked airliners on Sept. 11, where pilots and passengers were defenseless, in the false name of security. Congress responded to that with the "Arm The Pilots" law.
The Defenseless Victim Act basically says that, in public places, if you create a dangerous gun-free zone, you're liable for any harm it causes.
The idea that gun-free zones are safe is fraudulent.
It is a mythology perpetrated by anti-rights activists who can often be recognized by their beliefs that:
1 - self defense should be illegal, 2 - guns should be confiscated, 3 - no one but "authorities" should have guns, 4 - government can take care of you better than you can.
The anti-self-defense lobby would tell you to rely upon the police for your safety, but they always omit the inconvenient facts that:
1 - police have no legal duty to protect you, and
2 - they routinely respond only after an event to pick up the pieces.
In the tragic homicides above and countless others you see on TV, the police don't draw their guns, they draw chalk lines when you're gone.*
A person who would deny your right or ability to self defense is as violent and wrong as the person who assaults you.
Self-defense against criminal assault is guaranteed in all 50 states and federally, as it should be, and is as old as the first written laws of civilization. Denying the fundamental right to self preservation is unjust, immoral, dangerous and should not be tolerated.
The notion that gun-free zones are safe is fraud perpetrated on the public:
a) Only innocent victims like you and me are affected. Armed criminals ignore no-guns signs and could care less -- they're laughing at you.
b) No alternate form of security is provided. You are knowingly and recklessly made vulnerable, while property management accepts no responsibility for your safety or their negligent behavior. The bill addresses only anti-gun-rights bigots who would callously disarm you and ignore your plight.
c) Despite bias in news coverage and the fear-mongering left, privately held firearms have been repeatedly shown to deter and prevent crime in one scholarly study after another. Since the nation's inception we have known and embraced the freedom-giving truth that guns protect the innocent, and that this is good.
Initial reactions to the Defenseless Victim Act have been highly supportive by knowledgeable people in the gun-rights movement. It shows all the signs of becoming a major national rallying point. This could turn into one of the key gun issues of the decade (literally the right to bear), especially if terrorist attacks continue and defenseless innocent victims are slaughtered.
The PR value alone, forcing the other side to support helplessness and victimization, are worth the effort. Now is a good time to bring this issue into the spotlight.
The bill was first introduced as HB2456, sponsored by a dozen representatives, in the 45th session in Arizona (2002). The legislators say it gives them something to sink their teeth into. Give your legislators something this good -- ask them to introduce the Defenseless Victim Act in your state, for all the right reasons.
When will more street coppers be hired? 4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
You are kidding, right? Street cops are not hired, they are trained. It starts in the academy and then they are trained on the street by us. The only thing they have been trained to do is... I can't hin k of a thing that they have been trained to do right. FTOs are mostly kiss asses who were incompetents themselves. Some have no time on the job. A few are great, but they are only a few.
The academy institutes a culture of fear inot the recruits instead of a culutre street smarts. It is all academics, and reinforcing the fallacy of lawsuits and indictmkents. Kids are so scared when they come out they are useless.
And to those of you who are such cowards- very very few cops ever lost their precious raised rances, jobs, bank accounts, or what ever. Fewer ever went to the joint. Those very few that did were so wantonly negligent and reckless they deserved what they got.
If you want real street cops, you have to train real street cops. We are training poopie pants cops.
Anonymous said... It never ceases to amaze me regarding the whining of coppers on this blog regarding women and monorities receiving preferential treatment. I am a minority who scored in the top fifty on the sergeant's exam, and I know at least 20 other minorites and women who scored in the top 100. I also made Detective via the 1999 test, all when everyone told me the "fix" was in. I even had a sergeant tell me point blank, that I could not be promoted because the process wasnt fair. If coppers would try to learn how to take the promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do
I would like to comment that the majority, vast majority, of minority officers that i come across daley are lazy do nothing motherfers. not 4's but 1's. why is that. i am not racist, i ahve many minoirty friends and girlfriends but it bothers me that the there are so many of one group that are lazy. i guess there motto is the less they do the more they feel the acomplish. the other week i was on a street stop and an officer stopped, not to back me up, but to kick it with his pos boy that i stopped. this is the first time i ever saw this officer out of his car, and it was not to back me up, or to do some proactive policing, but to kick it with his "dog".
Saw in the Tribune yesterday a photo of the most recent CPD graduating class. A whopping 46 recruits. 46. Will that even cover 1 months worth of retirees? Under paid. understaffed and a residency rule. Theres a story for a reporter with balls enough to print it. Oh wait. This is Chicago. Never mind.
IM ALEC BALDWIN: Im tired of all you little piggies that blog here. Someday Im going to go to a Cubs game and when I leave; Im going to straighten out all you piggies around that ballpark, large footguys included. Im the wrong liberal to mess with!!
Regarding 014 Mids. You obviously have very strong feelings about this situation. You write in caps,shouting, and you speak of people getting hurt or killed. If you and others feel so strongly why dont you confront her and supervisors face to face. At least show them you are serious by signing your name.
promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do better.
You got lucky, you won the lotto! by and far a few get picked the rest get shit canned to the garbage. Years ago I spoke to an exempt who told me 20% is legit the rest 30% off the top known names.another 40% receive help via special study groups my( invite only) others handed the test or names given to the testing group, then the rest are shit canned. look at your white shirts maybe 20% can do the job?????
I have a gripe. What is the deal with these 10 minute long freight trains. I was out south yesterday and got caught by two of them. Isn't that a Public safety issue? Why can't they build over/underpasses on arterial streets? 4/20/2007 08:02:00 AM
State, federal and local laws give trains, especially long trains the right of way during certain times of the day. They can move through areas for set determined times depending on the time of day. Take it up with your lawmakers.
How is it a public safety issue? You are sitting, stopped, going no place, not moving. Oh, can't get home to that twelve pack, day old pizza, and reruns of Andy of Mayberry. Yeah, that could be a public safety issue.
If you are working and do not know your distric well enough than you are a moron. Go see a fireman. They can tell you how to get around.
Any one know when the next Detective class will be starting at the academy.... Just wondering, I should be in the next class, and I am anticipating getting out of the patrol division.
"Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!"
Called off by 004, state picked it up and that was how it ended up in 012. 004 believed the vehicle was used in a pattern of armed robberies, 003 tact got on the zone 45 mins later to inform the troops that it was a domestic related veh theft and my hats off to 1299 for the dig. Too bad it went over their heads to appreciate it.
ALL DESK OFFICERS SHOULD REALLY LOOK TO SEE WHO WALKS INTO NEW STATIONS AND AS FAR AS REPAIRS GETTING DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER THE ANSWER IS YES, IT TAKES ABOUT TWO TO THREE MONTHS JUST ASK THE OFFICERS OF THE 010TH DIST THEY WILL TELL YOU AND ANOTHER THING NEW STATIONS HAVE CAMERAS AND RECORDING DEVICES ALL OVER CONSTANTLY RECORDING VIDEO AUDIO ONLY STARTS RECORDING ONCE SOUND LEVEL GETS TO A CERTAIN DECIBLE SUCH AS PEOPLE SCREAMING SOMETHING FOR YOU SPECIALIZED UNITS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN BRINGING IN AN UNRULY PRISONER
Ron Hubermann, 6 years police officer named as head of the CTA? What the hell are his qualifications? Sitting at Richies beck and call for several years?
4/20/2007 01:17:00 AM
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The above poster is what's making this job so insufferable. I'm all for bashing Huberman, but could you take the time to do it properly and without sounding like such a stagutz?
It's "beckoned call" not "beck and call" you ignorant fuck!
Here's a thought: when you get home from suckin' down a few pops at Darlin's Tavern (you know who you are, you degenerate fuckin' drunks on the 2462 team), try sleeping it off for a few hours before coming on this site and making an ass of yourself and the rest of us.
To the readers of this blog and those who used to read the second city dick blog. What is the deal with Det McElroy who is now in area 1, is she as stupid as I believe she is or is she worse?
I read on the second city dick blog how she used to strut into class whenever she wanted and it seems she wants to do that here.
According to some of the info I received she was not well liked in 007 or housing.
Just drove by the prison AKA kennedy high scool in garfield ridge! Keep bussing the low life in we have cameras now! WOW at 56 and 57 narragansett. Archer and narragansett, 55 nad mulligan! great daley cameras will cure crime how about making all the assholes that take a bus go to school in their neighborhood and try to keep this area safe! maybe hire more police huh! maybe huberman could come over on the cta and observe!
There are aggressive officers on the west end of 008 now, but as a district overall we are short-handed still. When the east end blows up, the west end wave goes east to accomodate....unfortunatley. Nice for a change to see more than one blue and white out west, thankyou guys for your work, you know who you are. Be safe
I GUESS IM THINKING LIKE A COP BUTTTTTT ANONYMOUS 8:44 SOUNDS LIKE A POTENTIAL PSYCHO TRYING TO GET INSIDE INFORMATION REGARDING THE NEW BUILDINGS---I WOULDN'T ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS OFFICERS
Anonymous said... It never ceases to amaze me regarding the whining of coppers on this blog regarding women and monorities receiving preferential treatment. I am a minority who scored in the top fifty on the sergeant's exam, and I know at least 20 other minorites and women who scored in the top 100. I also made Detective via the 1999 test, all when everyone told me the "fix" was in. I even had a sergeant tell me point blank, that I could not be promoted because the process wasnt fair. If coppers would try to learn how to take the promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do better.
"Does anyone know where Mayor Daly's Army son is stationed? He never talks about it and it appears to be TOP SECRET."
Supposedly he's a wind dummy w/ the 82nd @ Ft. Bragg. Funny thing, you'd think he would have been deployed by now. But if that happened he might get injured or killed then who would Richie pass the mayoral torch to come Olympics time?
Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!
4/20/2007 02:18:00 AM
Coppers in 004 observe a armed robbery-in-progress and the two offenders are wanted in a string of other numerous robberies so the chase was on in a stolen car. By the time they got to 012 with the state and cpd chasing these guys, their identities are discovered and the chase was terminated by the street deputy-not sure which one. I couldn't believe they let it go that far myself.
HEY CRY BABIES…MERIT HATERS….NEWS BRIEF…. WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF LEGIT??? SCORING HIGH ON THE EXAM??? PLEEEEEEASE!!! REAL CLOUT BABIES NEED NOT WORRY ABOUT THE MERIT PROMOTIONS!!! THEY WERE TAKEN CARE OF ON YOUR PRECIOUS LIST!!! IF YOU THINK THAT ALL OF THE HIGH SCORERS ARE THERE LEGIT…YOU’RE NUTS!!! IF A GOOD, HARD WORKING COPPER DIDN’T RANK WELL ON THE LIST AND MAKES IT ON MERIT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. DON’T WORRY ABOUT FOP LISTING LEGIT AND MERIT BECAUSE THAT WOULDN’T TELL YOU ANYTHING. A PROMOTIONAL EXAM WITH A RAW SCORE AND THAT DIDN’T TAKE A YEAR TO GRADE (FIX) WOULD SHOW A LEGIT LIST. WAHHHH-WAHHHHH!!!!!
The problem with this dept., as I see it is too much in-fighting. Take a look at most of the comments of the blue shirts on this blog--old guys vs. young guys, unit vs. district, white guys vs. black guys, male coppers vs. female coppers, afternoons vs. midnites, and on and on. The reason why we can't get a decent contract is because we as p.o.'s can't even agree to disagree, settle our differences and work towards the greater good of better pay,benefits etc...I don't know about you guys but i came on this job to be the police and be able to provide for my family, not to make friends/enemies and have a social network. Who gives a shit about who got what spot/promotion etc....worry about yourself and your family and keep your fellow p.o.'s no matter who they are or where they're from safe.
That chase from 004 that ended in 012 was for a an armed robbery. I think the unit in 004 on-viewed the stick up. ISP and half of the south side was in on that thing. I kept switching over to 012's zone to moniter and all I kept hearing was for all cpd units to not chase.
Scum bag was seen with a weapon robbing someone. Nuff sed
now that tillman is gone is there still going to be a car from 002 assigned to watch her..ha what a joke..nappy ho..oh wait she loved the police hahaha
Hubermann said, "He is qualified to run CTA because when he was in college he drove a school bus part-time and knows something about tansportation." WTF??? Glad he's not going to be our boss! Another political hire at their finest.
How safe are the new district buildings? 4/20/2007 08:44:00 AM
Maybe you should call your mommy and see if she can write you a note to get you assigned to station security. Then you can strut your stuff. Hey, maybe they can give you an ornate clip board so you can patrol around and write down the problems you encounter.
Who cares who the next Superintendent or First Deputy is. All you have to know is that they will be the enemy. Keep your head down and your powder dry.
Who cares about Huberman? Who cares about the CTA?
The contract will be settled when Daley wants it settled. You will get what Daley says you will get. The FOP will say thank you Mr. Mayor and mean it.
As to retirees, they are not part of the bargaining unit. FOP only gives them lip service. If you want to blame anyone for the health care mess for retirees I will give you the name- JOHN "FUCK OUR POLICE" DINEEN. He is the guy who gave away the store and then when he retires he caused so much grief that the retirees got screwed. Fat pig should have just choked and died when he retired.
Oh, BTW, he is responsible for the reprehensible contract we have. He set the precedent as he was the President of FOP when we got the first management contract. He is responsible for the city to do what ever they want, when ever they want, how ever they want. He was nothing but a clout baby his whole career. Never worked a day as the real police.
This just in from 35th, now that hubberman is the new CTA prez king richie has decided to slate deposed aldercreature tillman as the lead contender for supt. Remember you heard it hear 1st......listen to me now and believe me later!!
He is in PsychOps, currently statioined in Fort Bragg, NC. He is well liked by the other soldiers. Don't judge someone just because you don't like a member of their family. He did not choose his family.
J McL in 007, Isnt she the Captains girl on 3rd watch??? The one who bypasses the "Chain of Command" and runs crying to the Capt about how all these officers are so mean to her... The one who shakes her tail feather beaming about how shes gods gift to the police dept but doesnt know how to do any paperwork and gets everyone else to do the work?? Wants to go out and do "Real Police Work" and then runs at the first sign of danger..... Shes dangerous.....
I recently took the online ethics test so once again I am aware that I cannot give any big contracts to my own company when I award all those contracts I ‘m in charge of. What really stood out while taking the test though was the part about not being able to exercise ANY supervisory role over a relative or domestic partner. This activity is expressly forbidden by section 2-156-130a. What does this mean? For one Phil Maria etc are in violation of the city’s ethics ordinance since they both serve in a supervisory capacity over son husband etc. It also means that our next super to comply with this ordinance cannot have any relatives on the cpd payroll. No if, buts ,etc the next chief of patrol can have no one in the patrol division likewise for all the other bosses in the various bureaus. I think being in violation of this ordinance should knock Maher out of the box for the sup job. Go ahead and run with this one lets out all the bosses violating this ordinance so the press can see how ethical we really are. (SCC feel free to edit or run with this however you desire)
If you're so damned smart then you realize that you are the exception-and I know few exceptions where minority candidates can succeed on a level playing field, academically or professionally. It's regrettable, however, it's true. And it's not my fault. Don't blame me or anyone else for harboring resentment over affirmative action promotions. Would you board a jetliner knowing the pilot didn't pass a pilots examination and was awarded a pilots license in order to achieve some bizarre racial or ethnic parity amongst the pilots? I doubt you would. Hell, if Jim Tillman told me to expect bright sunshine I immediately reached for an umbrella! Just kidding. Congratulations on your great success on the Chicago Police Department, you're really one in a million, unfortunately.
THANK GOODNESS, IMUS IS GONE boblonsberry.com ^ | 04/13/07 | Bob Lonsberry
Posted on 04/13/2007 5:59:33 AM PDT by shortstop
Thank goodness, Imus is gone.
Now our problems are solved.
Little black kids can walk home from school without worrying about catching an accidental round from one of the afternoon's drive-bys. Black teen-agers can congregate on street corners without stirring the fears of their neighbors or the rivalries of the black teen-agers congregated on the street corner two blocks away.
In black neighborhoods all across America's great cities, home ownership rates will rise and foreclosure rates will fall. Balanced meals will be cooked, lead dust will be cleaned up, Section 8 will become a thing of the past.
Parents will come to open house to meet their children's teachers, kids will do their homework, they'll take the metal detectors out of the schools.
The phrase bbaby daddyb will be replaced by the title bhusband.b Instead of two-thirds of children being born out of wedlock, babies will be born to a woman with a ring on her finger and a father for her child. A 32-year-old grandmother will be a very rare thing.
Dad's paycheck will take the place of mom's welfare check. A benefits card will come from the human resources office, not the caseworker.
Now that Imus is gone.
Now that Imus is gone, our problems are solved, black America is saved.
Teen-agers will stay in school and read on grade level and graduate. Teachers won't have to worry about being assaulted, the resource officers won't have to wear Kevlar vests, suspensions and expulsions will be a thing of the past. The word bremedialb will never be used, extra police won't have to be brought in when certain schools make the championship game, free lunch won't be the main meal of the day.
The f-word will go out of style. Women will be called women and men will sing about loving them, not sodomizing them.
The funeral homes will only bury old people and they won't need to print those memorial t-shirts with the picture and the date someone's baby was gunned down.
If there is a popping noise outside the window at night it's because the neighbor kids are playing with firecrackers. If the ambulance comes to the neighborhood it's because somebody's sick. If there's the sound of breaking glass, it's followed by the sound of a sweeping broom.
Now that Imus is gone.
Now that Imus is gone, our problems are solved, black America is saved.
And the crack and the chronic and the malt liquor will be gone. Young men will sell cars and computers instead of cocaine and heroin. The murderous grip of addiction will be loosened. Rehab will be what people do to their guest room, not where they spend the summer.
In black neighborhoods, a young man will leave home to go to college, not prison. Jail will not be glorified and lawlessness will not be tolerated. Teen-agers will join churches, not gangs, and getting good grades won't get a kid beaten up, mocked or ostracized. Playground scuffles will only be scuffles, the open-air market will sell vegetables, and the police won't be seen as the enemy.
The neighborhood stores will be owned by black families who will use their profits to buy a home and send their children to law school and medical school. The rising scourge of diabetes will be eradicated and regular health care will be sought and received.
Guns will be sold in stores for hunting, not on street corners for robbing. Children will be loved and cared for. At 2 o'clock in the morning, the streets will be deserted and people will be home in bed. More people will pay Social Security, instead of receive Social Security.
Self-esteem will be determined by personal achievement instead of classroom pep talks or radio wisecracks.
Now that Imus is gone.
Now that Imus is gone, our problems are solved, black America is saved.
You guys may be incorrectly assuming that Huberman is out. My guess is that he is still very much in. Kruesi was going pretty much immediately and Daley couldn't let that seat go unfilled but neither could the chief of staff's spot. This gives Huberman time to work with Kruesi for a few weeks to learn that job and also time to work with a successor chief when one is appointed. Sounds to me like Daley is training his personal successor for Mayor or putting Huby in a holding spot until he can appoint him Super. You all want to overlook that Huby holds a double MBA from the Univ of Chicago and whatever his sexual orientation is personally culturally and socially acceptable to a wide majority of Chicago residents as some kind of wonderkind. . . How many of you can say that your "black, white & jewish" all at the same time and if some of you are to be believed, gay at the same time and educated to boot, what more could you want. . . anyday he will show up with a law degree with high honors. . .
Yes, they make others on LOA resign after a certain amount of time and I'm sure anyone else on a 6 year LOA would be made to resign. Anyone know the policy on this or is this (again), a clout thing.
Will the west end of 008 now that summer is approaching get some aggresive officers?
4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
Absolutely not!!! Only tax payers live there and since we only cater to the mutts of society there will plenty of police babysitting those who have never contributed anything.
why are TRU and SOS at each others throats? They both have a purpose and they both have strengths and weaknesses. Yeah TRU is young and need to learn some more but the kids do try, its not their fault the department lets them come over with little time and not a lot of knowledge of the street.
As for SOS they have the experience and the know how but now they have a HUGE black eye, you cant mention those three letters without someone saying they got what they deserved, and for the most part thats true. They got away with a lot of shit for along time and now that the hammer is comming down it really sucks. Its a lot easier to get over their but the damage has been done, who the hell wants to ride around like a PPO with someone watching you all day?
TRU you guys are hard workers just need more guidence and experience. Keep up the good work but remember to keep your nose clean and dont fall into the many traps this job put in your way. And in the words of William Shakespear "He doth protest too loudly" meaning dont talk too much shit about the boys on Fillmore. You're just a fuck up, dumb ass or scandal away from being SOS II and then you will see what its like to have a bullseye on your back.
SOS sorry but youre going to have to take your hits and fight through the shit. Soon enough everyone who is supposed to be arrested or stripped will be and life will get back to normal. I doubt the city will disband the unit it would be a waste of experience and knowledge.
Hats off to both units, get the job done, dont listen to all the shit being said about you and do what needs to be done.
Always remember we do the same job we wear the same uniform, do your job right and go home in one piece.
The chase that started in the 004th District was an example of how a text book chase should be. Started out after on-viewing the bad guys attempting a robbery, the unmarked calls it in, the wanted vehicle is also wanted for several armed robberies and agg. batts which were very violent in nature and all occured within the last 24 hrs, this was relayed to the vehicles involved, when it was possible a marked car took over and continued the chase and sgt. and field lt. and watch commander knew how violent these subjects were and they were possibly armed agained. The chase was terminated after the chase cars lost sight of the offenders, per order. By that time the state police and other districts picked it up. All I can say is to bad we only have a helicopter that only flies business hours....
Security at the new police stations is a joke. Anybody walks in and can slip by the desk crew for one of three reasons; officers are busy doing paper work, officers don't verbally challenge anyone, or those at the desk may be a little to lazy when it comes to security issues and think nothing bad will happen here. LET'S GET REAL PEOPLE. DON'T LET THESE GOOFS HANG AROUND. THROW THEIR BUTTS OUT OF THE BUILDING. ONE MORE THING, ALL PEOPLE IN CIVILIAN DRESS INCLUDING CITY TRADES PEOPLE--WHERE YOUR I.D. !!!
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.
The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.
Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.
CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast.
How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?
Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody cries when they sing, "its Not Easy Being Green."
Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing, "We shall overcome." Jesse then has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake.
Nancy Pelosi & John Kerry exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him p ay his fair share.
Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity and Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.
Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges that Bill Clinton appointed from a list of single-parent welfare recipients.
The ant loses the case.
The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once peaceful neighborhood.
"It never ceases to amaze me regarding the whining of coppers on this blog regarding women and monorities receiving preferential treatment. I am a minority who scored in the top fifty on the sergeant's exam, and I know at least 20 other minorites and women who scored in the top 100. I also made Detective via the 1999 test, all when everyone told me the "fix" was in. I even had a sergeant tell me point blank, that I could not be promoted because the process wasnt fair. If coppers would try to learn how to take the promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do better." 4/20/2007 01:26:00 AM
All AGREE with you 100% IF there was no merit. Because of merit what you accomplish will never be looked at as your achievement, but because you MIGHT have been given special treatment, because of your race/sex/etc. Merit hurts ALL that do it legit. Only ones that make out are those that can't pass the test, or the clouted. Merit is evil as there are a LOT of bosses that have NEVER passed a test but get merited or clouted up through the ranks. IF they were to keep merit, then a person should be allowed only ONE merit promotion in his career.
Anonymous said... Ron Hubermann, 6 years police officer named as head of the CTA? What the hell are his qualifications? Sitting at Richies beck and call for several years? is he on L.O.A he should resign.. is there other po's that were denied a L.O.A 4/20/2007 08:40:00 AM ################################## You people better do the math, Huberman Date of Appointment: 10 July 1995. Academy: Jul 95 - Dec 95 Probation in Dist.: Jan 96 - 09 Jul 96 Educational LOA 1999 = 3yrs on the street!!!!!
Also, google him and you will find his bio states that he was, "a beat officer, bicycle officer, and a GANG SPECIALIST!!!!!!!"
He also, in three yrs. on the street did everything. I'm telling ya, google him and look up his bio. He's so full of SH*T!!!!!
I thought (back in the late 90's)that a Gang Specialist was a promotion that was obtained by taking the Detectives exam.
chase on zone13 was an ISP pursuit originating from an incident in 003, chicago was support only. two offenders wanted for 10+ armed robberies driving a stolen car. it was a complete failure of the interdepartmental communications system. OEMC was telling us they were at the ryan/taylor while state was on the air saying madison/cicero. good news, nobody got hurt. bad news, offenders got away.
Face it old goats, the gel police are smarter, better, and after they have a little time on the job, runs circles around your ass. Stop Complaining about the PPO's. You were a PPO too and didn't know shit when you got on.
I was told by a 18th dist sgt. that there is a po in 18 that works a traffic car from 6am to 3:30pm that cannot control his emotions. If he gets into any type of altercation on the job he cries. They cant find a place to keep him from public contact. He is supposed to be a really nice guy but troubled. How the hell do we get guys like this on the job? I wonder if he goes to inprogress calls? Should make him a fto.
Although it is good to vent anonymously sometimes, I think it is better to talk to the person or supervisor you have a problem with and much of these simple disagreements can be easily resolved. I hope everyone looks out for each other and backs each other up. And as always, Stay Safe
OK! Hey Commander Dulay your a fucking ass hole prick. when are you going to stop fucking over PO'S How is that! think it will work. You officer are in he world of oz.
My father used to tell me if you can't keep a job for more than 2 years, there is something wrong with you.
Lets count all the jobs Huberman has had,and the great job he did in each.
Police Officer- Fantastic Acting Director data System. CHRIS Case, making the CPD PAPERLESS. Beat cars doing case reports on their PDTS, ect ect.
Then promoted to ADS, tweaked all of those fine accomplishments...not.
Over to OEMC. Spent millions on a Communications Van that doesnt work. Cameras all over the city that cant even pick up a wayward coyote walking around DOWNTOWN. Broke morale at OEMC to an all time low. Went to city hall, cleaned up all the corruption there. Cleaned up merit promotions ( hey look in the mirror) and now that city hall is as clean as heaven, moves onto the CTA. Lets see what he can do with that mess. CAn you say strong union? They can strike can't they? The only good news is that it would be high unlikely that he would ever return to the CPD in any capacity. Hey Fire Department, looking for a boy wonder who can solve all your problems for you? You guys have to be next in line.
To: "Yes, they make others on LOA resign after a certain amount of time and I'm sure anyone else on a 6 year LOA would be made to resign. Anyone know the policy on this or is this (again), a clout thing.
4/20/2007 06:22:00 PM"
Like it or not, an exceptions are made if the party goes to another position in City of Chicago government job or elected office.
To: Everyone and, "Daley's son is in the 82nd Airborne, which is currently in Kuwait on it's way to Iraq.
Give him a great deal of credit!!!
4/20/2007 10:11:00 AM"
Hope he and all the troops stay safe and he does not follow his dad into politics.
Following the Michigan Beach baseball bat battery incident he was shipped off to the United States Military Academy on an appointment by Congressman Lipinski. Poor kids get jail, rich kids get military school.
He dropped out of West Point after a year, but he still had the enlistment commitment to fulfill. It took until he was age 29 for the Army to catch up to him.
I still can't get over the tearful, "My son is dead!", tirade the old man went into when reporter Andy Shaw asked him if he was grooming his son for the mayor's job. How dysfunctional can you be if dad will not publicly acknowledge the son's existence?
The problem with this dept., as I see it is too much in-fighting. Take a look at most of the comments of the blue shirts on this blog--old guys vs. young guys, unit vs. district, white guys vs. black guys, male coppers vs. female coppers, afternoons vs. midnites, and on and on. The reason why we can't get a decent contract is because we as p.o.'s can't even agree to disagree, settle our differences and work towards the greater good of better pay,benefits etc...I don't know about you guys but i came on this job to be the police and be able to provide for my family, not to make friends/enemies and have a social network. Who gives a shit about who got what spot/promotion etc....worry about yourself and your family and keep your fellow p.o.'s no matter who they are or where they're from safe.
.To: "JOHN "FUCK OUR POLICE" DINEEN. He is the guy who gave away the store and then when he retires he caused so much grief that the retirees got screwed.
Isn't he the one who got the contract where we got a small bonus but had to agree to pay $2 a paycheck for health insurance?
We used to have great health plans and they were part of our compensation package. I always wondered what health plans and what retirement plans the mayor and the aldermen have.
WARNING TO THE NEW SERGEANT'S CLASS
J-D also set the president that if you are promoted to sergeant, the FOP will no longer represent you for CR #s that occurred as a police officer. Go from a blue shirt to a white shirt in before the final decision and the FOP disowns you.
PBPA cannot represent you as you were not under their contract
10:14 stay off the blog, you are wrong and so was the 003rd district tact team. if they weren't busy doing sol's they would have known about the robbery pattern, after all, 004 sent a teletype out earlier
"Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!"
Called off by 004, state picked it up and that was how it ended up in 012. 004 believed the vehicle was used in a pattern of armed robberies, 003 tact got on the zone 45 mins later to inform the troops that it was a domestic related veh theft and my hats off to 1299 for the dig. Too bad it went over their heads to appreciate it. ________________________________
So, what was 1299's dig? please share. And when did this happen? Was it on midnights?
I was told by a 18th dist sgt. that there is a po in 18 that works a traffic car from 6am to 3:30pm that cannot control his emotions. If he gets into any type of altercation on the job he cries. They cant find a place to keep him from public contact. He is supposed to be a really nice guy but troubled. How the hell do we get guys like this on the job? I wonder if he goes to inprogress calls? Should make him a fto.
Yes it is off. W. He is missing a few screws. They try to hide him on his own little car on days doing nothing but traffic accidents. He just fvcked over a commanders family member and he was really wrong. He will soon be taking some heavy time. He is a great guy but just a little loose upstairs. Cant make a judgment call. He is bad for our already tarnished rep!
Anonymous said... Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!
4/20/2007 02:18:00 AM
Homicide suspect,first time Copper 33 used(FLIR)to track suspect.Nothing further,will advise,out.
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You're an idiot. It was a domestic related hot car. That's it. All the chatter about 10 armed robberies was not true. There was no gun, no robbery, NO HOMICIDE, and definetely NO CHOPPER. Where the hell do you get your information!? It was a fun chase though.
Anonymous said... To: Everyone and, "Daley's son is in the 82nd Airborne, which is currently in Kuwait on it's way to Iraq. Give him a great deal of credit!!! 4/20/2007 10:11:00 AM" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WRONG! His Unit might be in Kuwait but he is attending any and all military schools that he can, presently in Georgia.
OK! Hey Commander Dulay your a fucking ass hole prick. when are you going to stop fucking over PO'S How is that! think it will work. You officer are in he world of oz.
I agree he is a total jerk. But his time is limited and will long gone before you know it. Just ignore him. There will be a lot of cake left over on his last day!
GSB, SSA student, who also protects Chicago citizens, receives honor Ron Huberman, 27, a Chicago police officer and dual master’s degree graduate student in the School of Social Service Administration and the Graduate School of Business, has been awarded a 1999 Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans.
One of 30 recipients from 1,200 applicants nationwide, Huberman wants to use the problem-solving insights of social work and the management and leadership training of business school to “lead a more effective, efficient and compassionate police department.
“I’d like to lead a police agency some day. There are a lot of technicalities involved in the administration of a law enforcement agency that a business education can address.” Huberman said the School of Social Service Administration will prepare him to “effectively analyze and design innovative policy.”
Born in Tel Aviv, Israel, Huberman became a U.S. citizen in 1982. Raised by parents whose families had died in the Holocaust, Huberman and his family moved to the United States and resided in Tennessee. Huberman decided to become a police officer at age 6 when he and his mother were the victims of an armed robbery.
Huberman became a police officer after receiving his B.A. in English and psychology from the University of Wisconsin at Madison in 1994.
After graduating the Chicago Police Academy and joining the Chicago Police Department, Huberman sought assignment in the 24th District in Rogers Park where he continually worked to drive out contending gangs from his beat. “I really chose it because of the diversity of its population,” he said.
He has been honored with a Department Commendation, The Spirit of Rogers Park Award, an Officer of the Month award and 24 Honorable Mentions.
After two and a half years of service as a beat officer and as a tactical gang team officer during part of his service, Huberman decided he wanted a broader intellectual basis for the leadership roles to which he aspired. He then began school as a part-time student in the SSA and the GSB while still serving the police department. Huberman was granted an educational leave of absence in December 1998 to pursue his studies full time.
He said his education at Chicago offers the framework for his goals. “I felt that by attending the University of Chicago I could get the best education that I needed.”
While at the University, Huberman has volunteered at Cook County Hospital and was awarded the Albert Schweitzer Fellowship for his efforts to improve health care for impoverished residents in Cook County.
The Soros fellowships, supported by a charitable trust established in 1997, are awarded each year to new Americans––immigrants or children of immigrants––pursuing graduate studies.
Huberman said his University studies have taught him that what he reads and learns about immigration from the media “misses a lot of the history and contributions made by immigrants.” He said he is thankful for the opportunity to receive the Soros Fellowship, which supports new Americans who “have something positive to add to the culture.”
Anonymous said... Daley's son is in the 82nd Airborne, which is currently in Kuwait on it's way to Iraq.
Give him a great deal of credit!!!
4/20/2007 10:11:00 AM
Credit for finally fulfilling his obligation? Oh yeah, da mare forgot to mention that his 30 Y.O. boy had forgotten to fulfill his commitment when he got out of his little baseball bat incident and sent to the military academy years ago. Can't wait till the "hero" gets back so all the assholes in this city can vote him in as the next mayor!
To the readers of this blog and those who used to read the second city dick blog. What is the deal with Det McElroy who is now in area 1, is she as stupid as I believe she is or is she worse?
to the minority ranked in top 20 on sgts exam and the other 20 that were in the top 100, you should all be promoted. But the ones that shouldnt be promoted are the ones that get to jump ahead all of the white coppers just because of their race. I love when minorities whine about the process not being fair to all. 5 plus 5 equals 10 whether you are black, white, or hispanic. How in the hell is the test unfair to minorities? If you are in the top few hundred you should be promoted, if not then you shouldnt be. What a fucking concept huh? Whites dont whine about the guys that actually score good, they whine about the clowns that are dumber than a box of rocks yet jump to the top of the list because of their race
Face it old goats, the gel police are smarter, better, and after they have a little time on the job, runs circles around your ass. Stop Complaining about the PPO's. You were a PPO too and didn't know shit when you got on.
4/20/2007 09:34:00 PM
Yeah!!! PPO's rock!! SCHWANDT-- GO TO 5!! GO TO 5!!!
Anonymous said... Does anybody know whats up with all those temp. plates from Indiana and Wisconsin? Are they bogus or what?
4/20/2007 09:38:00 AM
On t-stops for Indiana drivers, ask if they have their concealled carry permit......then make them produce the weapon, and there's your freebie gun pinch.
Cars with Minnisota plates are "riddin dirty"...the LINK/SSI system is so leinient in MN that the dog-asses claim residency there as well as the ghetto to collect their "checks".
Wisconsin drivers do not need a Social Security Card to obtain a license......you go figure what to do there.
That's all I cant think of for now. Oh, and Texas plates are a sign of being on some bullshit too!
008 was ruined by that fat fuck Carrol, good ridens fuck face, Now we all hope you fuck up the airport like you did the 008Dist.Fuck Donnie Barrett, when is IAD going to investigate this asshole for ghost payroll....
To the poster who claims to see only the "laziest black MFers" on this job, obviously you've never worked in 008, 022 or 016. I suggest you transfer to either of the thre districts mentioned for fresh persepective on just WHO the real "laziest MFers" on this job are, and where they are employed.
Anonymous said... Will the west end of 008 now that summer is approaching get some aggresive officers?
4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
Yeah no kidding, Bt 812 never seems to be on the beat. Hey wanna patrol the new 7-11 at 63rd and Oak Park???? Or the 2 houses 6314 & 6318 S Oak Park that has gangbangers sitting on th porch and not dam thing being done about it. I know you guys are scared to leave that BS D.O.C. but can we get some service once in awhile????? Oh well this area is shot to hell anyways thank god Im moving, its like Mexico over here. 008 thanks for nothing!
Give Daley's kid a break. At least he is serving his country. That is more than most other guys his age can say. How many other children of politicians both Democratic or Republican have served or are currently serving in the military? The answer is very few. Also how many other guys in the past had to join the service to stay out of jail and later went on to serve honorably and well. Some of them are or were even on this job.
I don't like Richard Daley either, but leave his kid alone. At least his son is serving his country. I wonder if either one of you ever did. Will you finally be happy and get off his case if God forbid, he is badly wounded or comes home in a box?
daley's son is like his daddy a bullshitter he is doing nothing but going to school and will use it as daley passes the mayors hat to him watch and see it is all aploy! war hero sorry he is just a war zero!
Anonymous said... Face it old goats, the gel police are smarter, better, and after they have a little time on the job, runs circles around your ass. Stop Complaining about the PPO's. You were a PPO too and didn't know shit when you got on.
4/20/2007 09:34:00 PM
THANKS FOR RUNNING CIRCLES THAT IS WHY YOU NEVER GET ANYWHERE! JUST KEEP PAYING IN PENSION FUND KIDS AND WORK HARD I WILL WATCH YOU WORK!AS I GET ALL THE TIME AND 1/2 OVERTIME JOBS AND YOU DON'T! GO TO COURT MORE WORK FOR $10.00 AN HOUR AT CARNIVALS THANKS FOR THE EXTRA CONTRIBUTIONS!
Stay out of Daley's sons business you nosey idiot. Who cares where he is stationed. At least he had enough balls to sign up to fight in this stupid war that is only making Bush and his buddies rich, while innocent people are dieing everyday. Did I say, fuck you very much for your interest. Now go get a life, you stupid copper!
OK! Hey Commander Dulay your a fucking ass hole prick. when are you going to stop fucking over PO'S How is that! think it will work. You officer are in he world of oz.
I agree he is a total jerk. But his time is limited and will long gone before you know it. Just ignore him. There will be a lot of cake left over on his last day!
I could not believe it when Cline made Dulay a dist Commander this prick has no people skills or any type of management skills.
Anonymous said... Stay out of Daley's sons business you nosey idiot. Who cares where he is stationed. At least he had enough balls to sign up to fight in this stupid war that is only making Bush and his buddies rich, while innocent people are dieing everyday. Did I say, fuck you very much for your interest. Now go get a life, you stupid copper!
4/21/2007 03:55:00 PM
He didn't volunteer, He was forced to fulfill his obligation. He was painted into a corner. So, GFY democratic suckass.
Anonymous said... When will more street coppers be hired? 4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
You are kidding, right? Street cops are not hired, they are trained. It starts in the academy and then they are trained on the street by us. The only thing they have been trained to do is... I can't hin k of a thing that they have been trained to do right. FTOs are mostly kiss asses who were incompetents themselves. Some have no time on the job. A few are great, but they are only a few.
The academy institutes a culture of fear inot the recruits instead of a culutre street smarts. It is all academics, and reinforcing the fallacy of lawsuits and indictmkents. Kids are so scared when they come out they are useless.
And to those of you who are such cowards- very very few cops ever lost their precious raised rances, jobs, bank accounts, or what ever. Fewer ever went to the joint. Those very few that did were so wantonly negligent and reckless they deserved what they got.
If you want real street cops, you have to train real street cops. We are training poopie pants cops.
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Oh you must have forgot your first day on the street, but maybe not... you might have been the egotistical asshole recruit that nobody wanted to work with Because Ummm you knew it all, you were the best! Get Real Stupid!
To answer your question for the Sgt. Exam I took 3 study groups.
1. Berstein 2. Lt. Camacho at the Academy 3. Dep. Skahill at the Academy
Mind you, none of these groups were perfect, but if you really got what Bernstein was saying, he taught you how to answer weighted questions. Camacho's group was instrumental in simulating the length and pressure of the exam, and Skahill's group really, I mean really helped for the type of questions that could be asked. Also the candidate preparation guide was a little misleading about how many answers you should give. It scared many officers into only giving 3 or 4 answers on the scenarios, when in acutuality, if the question did not specify, you should always give as many answers as possible in order to score maximum points. And beleive it or not, it was a minority sergeant who scored #3 on a previous exam who taught me this.
If you're so damned smart then you realize that you are the exception-and I know few exceptions where minority candidates can succeed on a level playing field, academically or professionally. It's regrettable, however, it's true. And it's not my fault. Don't blame me or anyone else for harboring resentment over affirmative action promotions. Would you board a jetliner knowing the pilot didn't pass a pilots examination and was awarded a pilots license in order to achieve some bizarre racial or ethnic parity amongst the pilots? I doubt you would. Hell, if Jim Tillman told me to expect bright sunshine I immediately reached for an umbrella! Just kidding. Congratulations on your great success on the Chicago Police Department, you're really one in a million, unfortunately.
The only affirmative action promotions on this Department are the ones that benifit the politically connected. I know minorities who are in with Daley and whites who are not. And of course, there are many whites who are in with Daley and minorities who are not. If that is affirmative action so be it. But just remember, coppers have to LEARN HOW to take the exam. When they do they will pass due to their score, and not some merit based promotion. Mind you this is my second Sergeant's exam. The first one I scored in the 900's, but instead of blaming everyone else for my lack of preparation, I decided to prepare differently this time.
to the minority ranked in top 20 on sgts exam and the other 20 that were in the top 100, you should all be promoted. But the ones that shouldnt be promoted are the ones that get to jump ahead all of the white coppers just because of their race. I love when minorities whine about the process not being fair to all. 5 plus 5 equals 10 whether you are black, white, or hispanic. How in the hell is the test unfair to minorities? If you are in the top few hundred you should be promoted, if not then you shouldnt be. What a fucking concept huh? Whites dont whine about the guys that actually score good, they whine about the clowns that are dumber than a box of rocks yet jump to the top of the list because of their race.
As a minotiry I have merit base promotion, as it only allows for cronies of Daley and the Administration both Black and White to advance. I believe the test is not only fair, it was an excellent challege and oppurtunity to demonstrate you knowlege, skills and abilitites on the day of the exam. However, I invited several white officers to study, when 2 said they would study on their own, and one told me I would have to be Hispanic to make it as a minority. Well, sadly they did not do well on the exam. Any white, black, or hispanic that cannot be promoted and complains that it's "this group, or that goup", is just not studying properly.
If you want real street cops, you have to train real street cops. We are training poopie pants cops.
4/20/2007 08:48:00 AM
Who will train new recruits? Experienced officers refuse to consider working the academy. Academy full of SOS rejects and political hacks. FTO program is falling apart. Veteran officers treat new recruits like dogs. We need a new system.
No sgts class who cares? I will have a blue shirt on i blew everyone I could and all i have to show for it is this silly silly blue shirt! Who do I need to blow? can ED Burke do it as he did for many? How about billy banks? Maybe beavers who tok care of his illegitimate daughter D"Demeka" got he a 100K job working for daley! Someone please help!!
My initial reaction about Daley's son is to leave him alone, give him the benefit of the doubt and salute him for serving his country at a time of war.
But - I won't.
You and I know very well how deep the roots of the Daley Family weed systems go. I'm no conspiracy crank and I tend to have alot of faith in things but not with the Daley family.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn - some day - that the kid had to go overseas to avoid some poitical fallout here. Or Daley just wanted to groom the younger for King, when coronation day comes around in a few years, and having some "Organized mess hall and latrine operations" line items on the old resume would work some wonders at the ballot box.
Who really knows but with the 40+ years of the Daley's being the Daleys: I wouldn't put anything past them and this is no different.
WIth them there is ALWAYS a political current to anything that they do.
FTO's are shit. Nobody wants to work with them so they take the task of molding the new kids and fuck them up. The only excellent FTO in my district is giving it up.
If you want real street cops, you have to train real street cops. We are training poopie pants cops.
4/20/2007 08:48:00 AM
Who will train new recruits? Experienced officers refuse to consider working the academy. Academy full of SOS rejects and political hacks. FTO program is falling apart. Veteran officers treat new recruits like dogs. We need a new system.
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With SOS, and the FTO program in shambles. Maybe the next Super needs to address hiring, training and the FTO program.
As much as I hate everything Daley, I must clarify something... Cadets at the military academys DO NOT have any military obligation until the begining of their third year. If they leave before the begining of their third year, there is no obligation to serve.
I Have to stop reading this blog! We all rip on each other but if it was face to face no one would say anything. Very sad but yet we all have the same blue shirts at one time!
THAT HDO HACK DELAVALL WHO WORK FOR AL "DIRTY" SANCHEZ HAD ONE OF THOSE UNLIMITED LEAVE OF ABSENSE. REMEBER AS LONG AS THESE STROKE ARE ON LEAVE THEY COUNT AS WORKING FOR THE DEPARTMENT. THAT MEANS THE FEW HUNDRED GUY ON LEAVES OF ABSENCE SHORT US MAN POWER.
HEY FOP WAKE THE FUCK UP AND GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. YOUOLD FARTS NEED TO GET VOTED OUT CAN ANY ONE SAY SANTAS VILLAGE.
. . . The academy institutes a culture of fear inot the recruits instead of a culutre street smarts. It is all academics, and reinforcing the fallacy of lawsuits and indictmkents. Kids are so scared when they come out they are useless. . . . ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Apparently you forgot when you went through the academy. The academics are there so that the recruit can pass the State exam. Can't be the police unless you pass the State exam. State of ILL decides what is asked on that exam and provides the academies in the state with the guidelines for such.
As for reinforcing the fallacy of lawsuits and indictments, perhaps there are SOME instructors that talk about lawsuits (Law Unit Lawyers)but the Indictments = they are all over the news!
Get over yourself and remember the first day, week, or month that you were on the street. How many PO's, Sgt's, Lt's, Capt's helped you out. Perhaps, instead of critizing, you might want to be a bigger person and help that new recruit out. Offer some sound, valuable advise.
Maybe, the next time there is an FTO exam, you might want to take it. You might want to be part of the solution instead of the problem. Have a nice life, A$$HOLE!
Hey 4/20/2007 07:38:00 PM What's a LEGIT list????? The current list is stacked with annointed ones too. How do you determine what is LEGIT??? There's no winning.
Actually, "beck and call" is correct and "beckoned call" makes you sound like an ass. Since to beckon is to gesture silently and to call is a verbal act, "beckoned call" doesn't even make any sense.
Intransitive verb phrase be at (somebody’s) beck and call
(idiomatic) To be in the position of serving someone in any way they desire, usually unwillingly. He had a small fleet of waiters and servants at his beck and call.
or this:
The idiom beck and call means "at the services of" or "ready to obey the wishes of." Sometimes misspelled as beckon call. To beckon means "to summon or signal using a silent gesture, like a wave" and "to lure or attract."
"Ingorant fuck," huh? Maybe you could start a new blog: "Idioms for Idiots."
How come ONLY P.O.'s, retired P.O.'s and civilians employees can use the fitness center?
I wanted to bring in my girlfriend and was told no.
Yet, Dana Starks son (who is NOT the police and couldn't pass the POWER test) can use it?
That's B*llsh*t!!
Have the ole man pay for him to go to Bally's like all the other relatives that can't use a Dept. facility!
4/20/2007 08:57:00 PM
-------------------------------- Are you serious???! I LOVE the fact that they only allow POs! That's precisely why I quit my private gym membership...I got sick of the fact that the weightroom at my $600/yr gym was starting to look like a f'n prison yard. Plus, I don't have worry (as much) about some shithead gangbanger breaking into my locker! Keep your girlfriend out of the POLICE gym.
In response to this TOOLS statement below my reponse follows his....Yeah no kidding, Bt 812 never seems to be on the beat. Hey wanna patrol the new 7-11 at 63rd and Oak Park???? Or the 2 houses 6314 & 6318 S Oak Park that has gangbangers sitting on th porch and not dam thing being done about it. I know you guys are scared to leave that BS D.O.C. but can we get some service once in awhile????? Oh well this area is shot to hell anyways thank god Im moving, its like Mexico over here. 008 thanks for nothing!
4/21/2007 01:01:00 PM
Hey jag! I dont hear you calling 911 to get me overthere! I work on the west end and it's not my fault nor the 008th districts fault that we only have at the most 2 or 3 cars patroling that west end. Why dont you ask Dana starks! According to HIM we are'nt getting any more officers period in the 008th district and that we should shut up cause it aint gonna happen. Then 2 hours later this ass gets on tv and says that " we are putting more officers on the street to help the citizens"............THERE ARE OFFICERS WORKING THE WEST END YOU ASSHOLE! AND THEY ARE BRINGING IN GOOD SHIT EVERYDAY! YOU DO YOUR PART AND CALL 911 WHEN YOU SEE THE STUFF HAPPENING OR POST IT ON THIS BLOG CAUSE EVERY BIT OF INFO HELPS. I and we can't be in 6 places at once and you should be bitching to the alderman why our cars get downed and sent over east, not bitching at the guys working the beat. You obviously dont work here and dont know the guys working the west end day in and day out trying to kick the shit out. Do us a favor and move ok or help out like I said above and either call 911, bitch to your alderman like everyone on the east end does or post some helpful info on this site. 008 is'nt the 008 it was 6months ago pal. There are workers here now. You seem to be the 1 scared. Grow some ballz and respond intelligently to this post. FromAnOfficerKeepingTheWestEndSafe
How come ONLY P.O.'s, retired P.O.'s and civilians employees can use the fitness center?
I wanted to bring in my girlfriend and was told no.
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Take a day off from working out and go over to the credit union. They have really nice rates on personal loans so you can go out and buy yourself a set of nuts and tell your old lady to stay home.
A perfect example of the douche bags on the job these days.
I use to work on Daley's detail. You are lieing son of a bitch. He was not forced to go into the military. Daley was pissed by the way that he joined. Stop talking about things you know nothing about. He enlisted because he wanted to. He worked out and lost 30+ pounds in preparation.
Like I said, get some business you miserable copper!
Anonymous said... I use to work on Daley's detail. You are lieing son of a bitch. He was not forced to go into the military. Daley was pissed by the way that he joined. Stop talking about things you know nothing about. He enlisted because he wanted to. He worked out and lost 30+ pounds in preparation.
Like I said, get some business you miserable copper!
4/22/2007 04:44:00 PM
Why don't you go back and beg for your job back as Rich and Maggies personal house boy, suckass bitch. Signed, The Police
Since SCS refuses to post it, anyone hear any more info on the Lt.s exam? I didn't want to post this question here since 98% of the people who read SCC don't give a fu%$.
To answer your question for the Sgt. Exam I took 3 study groups.
1. Berstein 2. Lt. Camacho at the Academy 3. Dep. Skahill at the Academy
Mind you, none of these groups were perfect, but if you really got what Bernstein was saying, he taught you how to answer weighted questions. Camacho's group was instrumental in simulating the length and pressure of the exam, and Skahill's group really, I mean really helped for the type of questions that could be asked. Also the candidate preparation guide was a little misleading about how many answers you should give. It scared many officers into only giving 3 or 4 answers on the scenarios, when in acutuality, if the question did not specify, you should always give as many answers as possible in order to score maximum points. And beleive it or not, it was a minority sergeant who scored #3 on a previous exam who taught me this.
4/21/2007 06:47:00 PM
I attempted to sit in on the one at the academy I was told to leave. Did not have a invite so kiss my ass with your lies
Face it old goats, the gel police are smarter, better, and after they have a little time on the job, runs circles around your ass. Stop Complaining about the PPO's. You were a PPO too and didn't know shit when you got on.
4/20/2007 09:34:00 PM
I wear a 6 shooter Yet when I have to tell the ppo who has a clip with 15 rounds to take their gun out when we have a man with a gun call I become a little bit concerned.
Regarding the chase in 012, 1299 got on the radio to verify that the wanted vehicle was involved in armed robberies, all that was verified was that it was a known offender who took his girlfriend's car that night before, when he specifically asked about the robberies, no one from 004, 003 or the State confirmed the robberies. Then he asked to meet with a supervisor from 003 or 004 to find out about the armed robberies, the supervisors all went back to their districts and weren't available to meet with him, that's when 1299 ordered his cars not to chase, as he put it, a "domestic related stolen car." If this was a legit car wanted an armed robbery, why the hell did the supervisors from 003 and 004 bail out and leave their cars to roam around the 012th District. Get the facts straight asshole before you start bashing someone just because he wears a white shirt.
Your wrong. #1330 was unable to mobile w/ 004th District so he requested the zone to do so for him. Moments later, Bt. #499 informed the zone, who then informed Bt. #1330, that the car was occupied by offenders who had committed an armed robbery (hand gun) that was on-viewed by 004th Dist. car that subsequently initiated the pursuit. This information was passed on to the troops on Zone 3. Get your facts straight!
To: The idiom beck and call means "at the services of" or "ready to obey the wishes of." Sometimes misspelled as beckon call. To beckon means "to summon or signal using a silent gesture, like a wave" and "to lure or attract
The use of both words together goes back to the days of early English after William the Conqueror.
In those days the ruling class in England spoke French. So for things to be legal they had to be both in French and English such as "cease and desist."
I knew that all that watching the History Channel would come in handy some day.
After reading all of the posts in this blog regarding the chase that started in 004, I have learned something I had pretty much expected anyways. Its not just the media that screws up the facts it fellow coppers who tell stories through hearsay.
The night before in 003, this guy beats his girlfriends azz, and steals her car. Throughout the day along 75th and 79th street this car is identified by up to 8 victims in a string of armed robberies w handguns committed by 2 males one of which is positively identified as the original offender from the domestic.
That night 004 puts a team of unmarked officers on a direct mission in the area to look for these offenders. About 0100hrs. a guy crashes through an apartment complex door screaming some guys in a white car just pulled a gun on him and he ran away. About 0115 hrs. a short distance away a call comes out that 2 offenders in a white grand prix with the stolen tags on it just committed another armed robbery.
A short time later one of the unmarked cars spots the car at 75th and Jeffery which proceeds to flee, 004 and other CPD and ISP proceed to chase these animals all over the city.
The biggest shame of the whole thing is that these officers not only had to worry about the risk they were putting themselves in by trying to catch these fools, but also the fact the city would leave them out to dry most likely if something bad were to happen along the way.
Now its all a matter of opinion if the chase was worth it or not, but anyone who finds fault that some officers and supervisors thought that a a pair of azzholes who decided to go on a 24 hour crime spree with guns, were not worth putting the effort in to try and catch should not be the police or have most likely have reached the point in thier careers where they obviously just don't care.
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Hats off to Tillman!
Once a ho, always a ho!
Ron Hubermann, 6 years police officer named as head of the CTA? What the hell are his qualifications? Sitting at Richies beck and call for several years?
It never ceases to amaze me regarding the whining of coppers on this blog regarding women and monorities receiving preferential treatment. I am a minority who scored in the top fifty on the sergeant's exam, and I know at least 20 other minorites and women who scored in the top 100. I also made Detective via the 1999 test, all when everyone told me the "fix" was in. I even had a sergeant tell me point blank, that I could not be promoted because the process wasnt fair. If coppers would try to learn how to take the promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do better.
SCC,
I read your site all the time. I think it a good source of info for what is really going on in the department (obviously filtering out unsubstantiated rumors and other stuff) but it really disheartens me the way some coppers talk about each other. I hope regardless of everyone's differences they treat their fellow officers with respect.
Although it is good to vent anonymously sometimes, I think it is better to talk to the person or supervisor you have a problem with and much of these simple disagreements can be easily resolved. I hope everyone looks out for each other and backs each other up. And as always, Stay Safe.
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Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!
I watched this cable show last night. It had been about a Boston Officer who was shot and killed in 87. And how the FBI tracked his killer down.
I went the the Officer down memorial page and reviewed some of Boston's police killed on/off duty by felony acts. I noticed a sick trend. Boston liberals free Boston cop killers.
Detective Sherman C. Griffiths
eow 1988
The suspect, an illegal immigrant, was acquitted of murder charges in 1990 after his trial was moved to a different part of the state in a change-of-venue. After the trial the INS deported him back to his native Jamaica.
Officer Jeremiah J. Hurley Jr.
EOW 1991
The bomb had been attached to the bottom of a car and fell off in the driveway. It was built by the bomber to kill his boyfriend's father. The bomb builder was convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment, but that conviction was overturned and he was re-sentenced in 2007 to serve 37 years. The boyfriend was also convicted and served 12 years
before being released.
Police Officer Thomas F. Rose
EOW 1993
Officer Rose was shot and killed with his own weapon after letting an inmate out of his cell to make a phone call. The suspect was found guilty of voluntary manslaughter and sentenced to 26 - 30 years
Detective John James Mulligan
EOW 1993
Detective Mulligan was shot and killed while working a private detail. He was shot five times in the face, execution style, as he sat in his car.
Two suspects were tried and convicted of first-degree murder in 1995, but one suspect had his conviction overturned in 2000 when he plea bargained for manslaughter. In February 2006, the suspect admitted his participation in the execution-style killing of Detective Mulligan. He is eligible for parole in summer 2006.
These sentences and paroles upon cop killers speak for themselves concerning Boston liberal Judges & Juries.
OFC.H FROM 014TH MIDNIGHTS IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT THIS DEPT HAS TO OFFER SHE DOESNT WORK 99 BECAUSE SHE SCARED WHY DID YOU TAKE THIS JOB SHE TELLS EVERYONE SHE WORKS WITH NOT TO LEAVE HER ALONG AND HAS RAN AWAY ON JOBS AND LEFT HER PARTNER OUT TO DRY NOT OUNCE BUT MANY TIMES SHE FOLLOWS PPO'S AROUND AND SHE HAS 5YRS ON WE AS A WATCH WILL CATER TO YOU NO LONGER FIND ANOTHER LINE OF WORK BEFORE YOU GET ONE OF US KILLED,EVERYONE IS SICK OF YOUR SHIT YOUR SPINELESS AND USELESS DOD FORBID ONE NIGHT WHEN YOUR SCHEDULED TO WORK 99 AND YOU RUN AND TELL THE SHIFT COMMANDER YOUR SCARED AND THEY BREAK UP PARTNERS SOMETHING DOESNT HAPPEN TO THAT PERSON WHO HAS TO WORK 99 BECAUSE OF YOU I HOPE YOUR NOT SCARED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THEIR FAMILY IF GOD FORBID SOMETHING DOES.
4/19/2007 03:40:00 PM
WOW Sounds just like P.O. J McL in 007 on 3rd watch Shes no better than her Det father who liked to steal pinches. He would get your offender RWOC and scoop the guy up a day later and lock him up
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Huberman to head CTA...thank God for small favors
Ammo for practice? You don't need ammo for practice, just play a video game. It will help with reaction time. Besides, excessive shooting of firearms pollutes the air.
Open Post YES!
Questions who will be next Supt? Next 1st Dept? Now that huberman is out?
How many people at cta will huberman fire and how many of daleys friends will he hire?
When will new contract be settled? will we get anything?
when will fop adopt a healthcare agenda for the retired officers?
When will more street coppers be hired? disband tru and sos and put the coppers back in districts so we all can get time due!
Will the west end of 008 now that summer is approaching get some aggresive officers?
I have a gripe. What is the deal with these 10 minute long freight trains. I was out south yesterday and got caught by two of them. Isn't that a Public safety issue? Why can't they build over/underpasses on arterial streets?
Does anyone know where Mayor Daly's Army son is stationed? He never talks about it and it appears to be TOP SECRET. We know where the Prince from England is, what about Daly?
Ron Hubermann, 6 years police officer named as head of the CTA? What the hell are his qualifications? Sitting at Richies beck and call for several years?
is he on L.O.A he should resign.. is there other po's that were denied a L.O.A
How safe are the new district buildings? When things break, are they fixed right away or do they sit broken for weeks? I it possible for anyone to walk into a police area not open to the public. Are officers safety at risk? When you walk into a new building does anyone pick up their head to see who is walking in? What is the desk sgt doing?
"If you create a gun-free zone, you're liable for any harm it causes."
(NOTE: Copy of the bill follows.)
Originally called the Gun-Free-Zone Liability Act, this bill recognizes that gun-free zones, recklessly made and typically with no alternative security provided, are known to be extremely dangerous.
We have seen this recently in the Wakefield, Mass., slayings, the Luby's Massacre, and even the hijacked airliners on Sept. 11, where pilots and passengers were defenseless, in the false name of security. Congress responded to that with the "Arm The Pilots" law.
The Defenseless Victim Act basically says that, in public places, if you create a dangerous gun-free zone, you're liable for any harm it causes.
The idea that gun-free zones are safe is fraudulent.
It is a mythology perpetrated by anti-rights activists who can often be recognized by their beliefs that:
1 - self defense should be illegal,
2 - guns should be confiscated,
3 - no one but "authorities" should have guns,
4 - government can take care of you better than you can.
The anti-self-defense lobby would tell you to rely upon the police for your safety, but they always omit the inconvenient facts that:
1 - police have no legal duty to protect you, and
2 - they routinely respond only after an event to pick up the pieces.
In the tragic homicides above
and countless others you see on TV,
the police don't draw their guns,
they draw chalk lines when you're gone.*
A person who would deny your right
or ability to self defense is as violent and
wrong as the person who assaults you.
Self-defense against criminal assault is guaranteed in all 50 states and federally, as it should be, and is as old as the first written laws of civilization. Denying the fundamental right to self preservation is unjust, immoral, dangerous and should not be tolerated.
The notion that gun-free zones are safe is fraud perpetrated on the public:
a) Only innocent victims like you and me are affected. Armed criminals ignore no-guns signs and could care less -- they're laughing at you.
b) No alternate form of security is provided. You are knowingly and recklessly made vulnerable, while property management accepts no responsibility for your safety or their negligent behavior. The bill addresses only anti-gun-rights bigots who would callously disarm you and ignore your plight.
c) Despite bias in news coverage and the fear-mongering left, privately held firearms have been repeatedly shown to deter and prevent crime in one scholarly study after another. Since the nation's inception we have known and embraced the freedom-giving truth that guns protect the innocent, and that this is good.
Initial reactions to the Defenseless Victim Act have been highly supportive by knowledgeable people in the gun-rights movement. It shows all the signs of becoming a major national rallying point. This could turn into one of the key gun issues of the decade (literally the right to bear), especially if terrorist attacks continue and defenseless innocent victims are slaughtered.
The PR value alone, forcing the other side to support helplessness and victimization, are worth the effort. Now is a good time to bring this issue into the spotlight.
The bill was first introduced as HB2456, sponsored by a dozen representatives, in the 45th session in Arizona (2002). The legislators say it gives them something to sink their teeth into. Give your legislators something this good -- ask them to introduce the Defenseless Victim Act in your state, for all the right reasons.
I went in front of the merit board and the only question ADS Tobias asked is if i had a good slapshot! Huh?
When will more street coppers be hired?
4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
You are kidding, right? Street cops are not hired, they are trained. It starts in the academy and then they are trained on the street by us. The only thing they have been trained to do is... I can't hin k of a thing that they have been trained to do right. FTOs are mostly kiss asses who were incompetents themselves. Some have no time on the job. A few are great, but they are only a few.
The academy institutes a culture of fear inot the recruits instead of a culutre street smarts. It is all academics, and reinforcing the fallacy of lawsuits and indictmkents. Kids are so scared when they come out they are useless.
And to those of you who are such cowards- very very few cops ever lost their precious raised rances, jobs, bank accounts, or what ever. Fewer ever went to the joint. Those very few that did were so wantonly negligent and reckless they deserved what they got.
If you want real street cops, you have to train real street cops. We are training poopie pants cops.
All the merit picks should have to wear a big "M" on their chests like the letters Lavergne and Shirley wore.
Anonymous said...
It never ceases to amaze me regarding the whining of coppers on this blog regarding women and monorities receiving preferential treatment. I am a minority who scored in the top fifty on the sergeant's exam, and I know at least 20 other minorites and women who scored in the top 100. I also made Detective via the 1999 test, all when everyone told me the "fix" was in. I even had a sergeant tell me point blank, that I could not be promoted because the process wasnt fair. If coppers would try to learn how to take the promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do
I would like to comment that the majority, vast majority, of minority officers that i come across daley are lazy do nothing motherfers. not 4's but 1's. why is that. i am not racist, i ahve many minoirty friends and girlfriends but it bothers me that the there are so many of one group that are lazy. i guess there motto is the less they do the more they feel the acomplish. the other week i was on a street stop and an officer stopped, not to back me up, but to kick it with his pos boy that i stopped. this is the first time i ever saw this officer out of his car, and it was not to back me up, or to do some proactive policing, but to kick it with his "dog".
Saw in the Tribune yesterday a photo of the most recent CPD graduating class. A whopping 46 recruits. 46. Will that even cover 1 months worth of retirees? Under paid. understaffed and a residency rule. Theres a story for a reporter with balls enough to print it. Oh wait. This is Chicago. Never mind.
Does anybody know whats up with all those temp. plates from Indiana and Wisconsin? Are they bogus or what?
IM ALEC BALDWIN:
Im tired of all you little piggies
that blog here. Someday Im going to
go to a Cubs game and when I leave; Im going to straighten out all you piggies around that ballpark, large footguys included.
Im the wrong liberal to mess with!!
Hey, is it possible for everyone to keep their comments to TWO paragraphs?
Seems like you guys are writing a freaken book...
Regarding 014 Mids. You obviously have very strong feelings about this situation. You write in caps,shouting, and you speak of people getting hurt or killed. If you and others feel so strongly why dont you confront her and supervisors face to face. At least show them you are serious by signing your name.
The young Daley is a Soldier in the 82nd Airborne Division
Alec Baldwin for Father of the Year award 2007:
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/0419_baldwin.mp3
I wonder if I turn Gay and jewish if I can be chief of that criminal staff. My 11 years on the job should then make me double qualified!
promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do better.
You got lucky, you won the lotto! by and far a few get picked the rest get shit canned to the garbage. Years ago I spoke to an exempt who told me 20% is legit the rest 30% off the top known names.another 40% receive help via special study groups my( invite only) others handed the test or names given to the testing group, then the rest are shit canned. look at your white shirts maybe 20% can do the job?????
I have a gripe. What is the deal with these 10 minute long freight trains. I was out south yesterday and got caught by two of them. Isn't that a Public safety issue? Why can't they build over/underpasses on arterial streets?
4/20/2007 08:02:00 AM
State, federal and local laws give trains, especially long trains the right of way during certain times of the day. They can move through areas for set determined times depending on the time of day. Take it up with your lawmakers.
How is it a public safety issue? You are sitting, stopped, going no place, not moving. Oh, can't get home to that twelve pack, day old pizza, and reruns of Andy of Mayberry. Yeah, that could be a public safety issue.
If you are working and do not know your distric well enough than you are a moron. Go see a fireman. They can tell you how to get around.
Any one know when the next Detective class will be starting at the academy.... Just wondering,
I should be in the next class, and I am anticipating getting out of the patrol division.
Daley's son is in the 82nd Airborne, which is currently in Kuwait on it's way to Iraq.
Give him a great deal of credit!!!
"Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!"
Called off by 004, state picked it up and that was how it ended up in 012. 004 believed the vehicle was used in a pattern of armed robberies, 003 tact got on the zone 45 mins later to inform the troops that it was a domestic related veh theft and my hats off to 1299 for the dig. Too bad it went over their heads to appreciate it.
ALL DESK OFFICERS SHOULD REALLY LOOK TO SEE WHO WALKS INTO NEW STATIONS AND AS FAR AS REPAIRS GETTING DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER THE ANSWER IS YES, IT TAKES ABOUT TWO TO THREE MONTHS JUST ASK THE OFFICERS OF THE 010TH DIST THEY WILL TELL YOU AND ANOTHER THING NEW STATIONS HAVE CAMERAS AND RECORDING DEVICES ALL OVER CONSTANTLY RECORDING VIDEO AUDIO ONLY STARTS RECORDING ONCE SOUND LEVEL GETS TO A CERTAIN DECIBLE SUCH AS PEOPLE SCREAMING SOMETHING FOR YOU SPECIALIZED UNITS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN BRINGING IN AN UNRULY PRISONER
Anonymous said...
Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!
4/20/2007 02:18:00 AM
Homicide suspect,first time Copper 33 used(FLIR)to track suspect.Nothing further,will advise,out.
Ron Hubermann, 6 years police officer named as head of the CTA? What the hell are his qualifications? Sitting at Richies beck and call for several years?
4/20/2007 01:17:00 AM
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The above poster is what's making this job so insufferable. I'm all for bashing Huberman, but could you take the time to do it properly and without sounding like such a stagutz?
It's "beckoned call" not "beck and call" you ignorant fuck!
Here's a thought: when you get home from suckin' down a few pops at Darlin's Tavern (you know who you are, you degenerate fuckin' drunks on the 2462 team), try sleeping it off for a few hours before coming on this site and making an ass of yourself and the rest of us.
Jesus Christ, it's like disrespecting the Bing!
8:02
You must have been in HOGWASH! Them trains in 004 cause so much hassle and tardyness. It isn't funny at all Joe.
Anyone catch the news report on Donald Stevens, the recently passed mayor of Rosemont?
Reads like a blue print for the Daley Machine.
You can bet your last tax dollar that Daley will die in office and be "replaced" by his most fortunate son.
And everyone will blabber on about what a great man Slicky Dick was regardless of how he narrowly avoided a slew of Federal indictments.
I LOVE THIS GREAT CITY!!!!!
GO 2016 OLYMPICS!!!!!!!!!!
To the readers of this blog and those who used to read the second city dick blog. What is the deal with Det McElroy who is now in area 1, is she as stupid as I believe she is or is she worse?
I read on the second city dick blog how she used to strut into class whenever she wanted and it seems she wants to do that here.
According to some of the info I received she was not well liked in 007 or housing.
Info needed please, thanks.
Just drove by the prison AKA kennedy high scool in garfield ridge! Keep bussing the low life in we have cameras now! WOW at 56 and 57 narragansett. Archer and narragansett, 55 nad mulligan! great daley cameras will cure crime how about making all the assholes that take a bus go to school in their neighborhood and try to keep this area safe! maybe hire more police huh! maybe huberman could come over on the cta and observe!
Sgt Class will start 30 April class of 50 35 score 15 well oh merit?
who exactly are these "real police" that we are always reading about and where are they now ?
There are aggressive officers on the west end of 008 now, but as a district overall we are short-handed still. When the east end blows up, the west end wave goes east to accomodate....unfortunatley. Nice for a change to see more than one blue and white out west, thankyou guys for your work, you know who you are. Be safe
I GUESS IM THINKING LIKE A COP BUTTTTTT ANONYMOUS 8:44 SOUNDS LIKE A POTENTIAL PSYCHO TRYING TO GET INSIDE INFORMATION REGARDING THE NEW BUILDINGS---I WOULDN'T ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS OFFICERS
CONGRATS TO THE 22ND DISTRICT TACT OFFICERS FOR THAT GREAT BURGLARY PINCH AT THE AGRICULTURAL SCHOOL--I'M GLAD YOUR PROTECTING THE TAX PAYERS!!
Does anyone have any details regarding the drive by shooting in 004, near 133rd and Baltimore?
Anonymous said...
It never ceases to amaze me regarding the whining of coppers on this blog regarding women and monorities receiving preferential treatment. I am a minority who scored in the top fifty on the sergeant's exam, and I know at least 20 other minorites and women who scored in the top 100. I also made Detective via the 1999 test, all when everyone told me the "fix" was in. I even had a sergeant tell me point blank, that I could not be promoted because the process wasnt fair. If coppers would try to learn how to take the promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do better.
4/20/2007 01:26:00 AM
Ok, sure, what secret study group were you in?
"Does anyone know where Mayor Daly's Army son is stationed? He never talks about it and it appears to be TOP SECRET."
Supposedly he's a wind dummy w/ the 82nd @ Ft. Bragg. Funny thing, you'd think he would have been deployed by now. But if that happened he might get injured or killed then who would Richie pass the mayoral torch to come Olympics time?
Hubermann is OUT? This is just a resume enhancer for his next real assignment. He can now say he ran an agency.
Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!
4/20/2007 02:18:00 AM
Coppers in 004 observe a armed robbery-in-progress and the two offenders are wanted in a string of other numerous robberies so the chase was on in a stolen car. By the time they got to 012 with the state and cpd chasing these guys, their identities are discovered and the chase was terminated by the street deputy-not sure which one. I couldn't believe they let it go that far myself.
HEY CRY BABIES…MERIT HATERS….NEWS BRIEF….
WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF LEGIT??? SCORING HIGH ON THE EXAM???
PLEEEEEEASE!!!
REAL CLOUT BABIES NEED NOT WORRY ABOUT THE MERIT PROMOTIONS!!! THEY WERE TAKEN CARE OF ON YOUR PRECIOUS LIST!!!
IF YOU THINK THAT ALL OF THE HIGH SCORERS ARE THERE LEGIT…YOU’RE NUTS!!!
IF A GOOD, HARD WORKING COPPER DIDN’T RANK WELL ON THE LIST AND MAKES IT ON MERIT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. DON’T WORRY ABOUT FOP LISTING LEGIT AND MERIT BECAUSE THAT WOULDN’T TELL YOU ANYTHING.
A PROMOTIONAL EXAM WITH A RAW SCORE AND THAT DIDN’T TAKE A YEAR TO GRADE (FIX) WOULD SHOW A LEGIT LIST.
WAHHHH-WAHHHHH!!!!!
The problem with this dept., as I see it is too much in-fighting. Take a look at most of the comments of the blue shirts on this blog--old guys vs. young guys, unit vs. district, white guys vs. black guys, male coppers vs. female coppers, afternoons vs. midnites, and on and on. The reason why we can't get a decent contract is because we as p.o.'s can't even agree to disagree, settle our differences and work towards the greater good of better pay,benefits etc...I don't know about you guys but i came on this job to be the police and be able to provide for my family, not to make friends/enemies and have a social network. Who gives a shit about who got what spot/promotion etc....worry about yourself and your family and keep your fellow p.o.'s no matter who they are or where they're from safe.
Alec Baldwin leaves this message on his daughter's voicemail.
What a douche-bag.
OBH FOR SUPERINTENDENT!
That chase from 004 that ended in 012 was for a an armed robbery. I think the unit in 004 on-viewed the stick up. ISP and half of the south side was in on that thing. I kept switching over to 012's zone to moniter and all I kept hearing was for all cpd units to not chase.
Scum bag was seen with a weapon robbing someone. Nuff sed
now that tillman is gone is there still going to be a car from 002 assigned to watch her..ha what a joke..nappy ho..oh wait she loved the police hahaha
How many people at cta will huberman fire and how many of daleys friends will he hire?
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Umm? Who works there now? Enemies of Daley?
Hubermann said, "He is qualified to run CTA because when he was in college he drove a school bus part-time and knows something about tansportation." WTF??? Glad he's not going to be our boss! Another political hire at their finest.
How safe are the new district buildings?
4/20/2007 08:44:00 AM
Maybe you should call your mommy and see if she can write you a note to get you assigned to station security. Then you can strut your stuff. Hey, maybe they can give you an ornate clip board so you can patrol around and write down the problems you encounter.
4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
Who cares who the next Superintendent or First Deputy is. All you have to know is that they will be the enemy. Keep your head down and your powder dry.
Who cares about Huberman? Who cares about the CTA?
The contract will be settled when Daley wants it settled. You will get what Daley says you will get. The FOP will say thank you Mr. Mayor and mean it.
As to retirees, they are not part of the bargaining unit. FOP only gives them lip service. If you want to blame anyone for the health care mess for retirees I will give you the name- JOHN "FUCK OUR POLICE" DINEEN. He is the guy who gave away the store and then when he retires he caused so much grief that the retirees got screwed. Fat pig should have just choked and died when he retired.
Oh, BTW, he is responsible for the reprehensible contract we have. He set the precedent as he was the President of FOP when we got the first management contract. He is responsible for the city to do what ever they want, when ever they want, how ever they want. He was nothing but a clout baby his whole career. Never worked a day as the real police.
This just in from 35th, now that hubberman is the new CTA prez king richie has decided to slate deposed aldercreature tillman as the lead contender for supt. Remember you heard it hear 1st......listen to me now and believe me later!!
Will the west end of 008 now that summer is approaching get some aggresive officers?
4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
No, now move someplace else.
08:16:00 AM
He is in PsychOps, currently statioined in Fort Bragg, NC. He is well liked by the other soldiers. Don't judge someone just because you don't like a member of their family. He did not choose his family.
J McL in 007, Isnt she the Captains girl on 3rd watch??? The one who bypasses the "Chain of Command" and runs crying to the Capt about how all these officers are so mean to her... The one who shakes her tail feather beaming about how shes gods gift to the police dept but doesnt know how to do any paperwork and gets everyone else to do the work?? Wants to go out and do "Real Police Work" and then runs at the first sign of danger..... Shes dangerous.....
How safe are the new district buildings?
Answer: Pretty damn good
When things break, are they fixed right away or do they sit broken for weeks?
Answer: Months
Is it possible for anyone to walk into a police area not open to the public. Are officers safety at risk?
Answer: No
When you walk into a new building does anyone pick up their head to see who is walking in?
Answer: In 015 everyone draws down on the bastards that walk into the station.
What is the desk Sgt doing?
Answer: I will KICK YOUR GODDAMN ASS for asking these dumb questions if you ever walk into my station.
Who the fuck are you anyway?
Al-Qaeda???
KIRBY'S TRYING REAL HARD TO NAILER COPPERS RIGHT NOW SO SHE CAN SAY SHE CAN FIX S THE DEPARTMENT.
SAVE THE OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT FOR REAL CRIMINALS YOU NAPPY HEAD HO.
I MEAN THAT IN A GOOD WAY CUZ I LUVS THE HOES.
I recently took the online ethics test so once again I am aware that I cannot give any big contracts to my own company when I award all those contracts I ‘m in charge of.
What really stood out while taking the test though was the part about not being able to exercise ANY supervisory role over a relative or domestic partner. This activity is expressly forbidden by section 2-156-130a. What does this mean? For one Phil Maria etc are in violation of the city’s ethics ordinance since they both serve in a supervisory capacity over son husband etc. It also means that our next super to comply with this ordinance cannot have any relatives on the cpd payroll. No if, buts ,etc the next chief of patrol can have no one in the patrol division likewise for all the other bosses in the various bureaus. I think being in violation of this ordinance should knock Maher out of the box for the sup job. Go ahead and run with this one lets out all the bosses violating this ordinance so the press can see how ethical we really are. (SCC feel free to edit or run with this however you desire)
To 4/20/2007 01:26:00 AM,
If you're so damned smart then you realize that you are the exception-and I know few exceptions where minority candidates can succeed on a level playing field, academically or professionally. It's regrettable, however, it's true. And it's not my fault. Don't blame me or anyone else for harboring resentment over affirmative action promotions. Would you board a jetliner knowing the pilot didn't pass a pilots examination and was awarded a pilots license in order to achieve some bizarre racial or ethnic parity amongst the pilots? I doubt you would. Hell, if Jim Tillman told me to expect bright sunshine I immediately reached for an umbrella! Just kidding. Congratulations on your great success on the Chicago Police Department, you're really one in a million, unfortunately.
THANK GOODNESS, IMUS IS GONE
boblonsberry.com ^ | 04/13/07 | Bob Lonsberry
Posted on 04/13/2007 5:59:33 AM PDT by shortstop
Thank goodness, Imus is gone.
Now our problems are solved.
Little black kids can walk home from school without worrying about catching an accidental round from one of the afternoon's drive-bys. Black teen-agers can congregate on street corners without stirring the fears of their neighbors or the rivalries of the black teen-agers congregated on the street corner two blocks away.
In black neighborhoods all across America's great cities, home ownership rates will rise and foreclosure rates will fall. Balanced meals will be cooked, lead dust will be cleaned up, Section 8 will become a thing of the past.
Parents will come to open house to meet their children's teachers, kids will do their homework, they'll take the metal detectors out of the schools.
The phrase bbaby daddyb will be replaced by the title bhusband.b Instead of two-thirds of children being born out of wedlock, babies will be born to a woman with a ring on her finger and a father for her child. A 32-year-old grandmother will be a very rare thing.
Dad's paycheck will take the place of mom's welfare check. A benefits card will come from the human resources office, not the caseworker.
Now that Imus is gone.
Now that Imus is gone, our problems are solved, black America is saved.
Teen-agers will stay in school and read on grade level and graduate. Teachers won't have to worry about being assaulted, the resource officers won't have to wear Kevlar vests, suspensions and expulsions will be a thing of the past. The word bremedialb will never be used, extra police won't have to be brought in when certain schools make the championship game, free lunch won't be the main meal of the day.
The f-word will go out of style. Women will be called women and men will sing about loving them, not sodomizing them.
The funeral homes will only bury old people and they won't need to print those memorial t-shirts with the picture and the date someone's baby was gunned down.
If there is a popping noise outside the window at night it's because the neighbor kids are playing with firecrackers. If the ambulance comes to the neighborhood it's because somebody's sick. If there's the sound of breaking glass, it's followed by the sound of a sweeping broom.
Now that Imus is gone.
Now that Imus is gone, our problems are solved, black America is saved.
And the crack and the chronic and the malt liquor will be gone. Young men will sell cars and computers instead of cocaine and heroin. The murderous grip of addiction will be loosened. Rehab will be what people do to their guest room, not where they spend the summer.
In black neighborhoods, a young man will leave home to go to college, not prison. Jail will not be glorified and lawlessness will not be tolerated. Teen-agers will join churches, not gangs, and getting good grades won't get a kid beaten up, mocked or ostracized. Playground scuffles will only be scuffles, the open-air market will sell vegetables, and the police won't be seen as the enemy.
The neighborhood stores will be owned by black families who will use their profits to buy a home and send their children to law school and medical school. The rising scourge of diabetes will be eradicated and regular health care will be sought and received.
Guns will be sold in stores for hunting, not on street corners for robbing. Children will be loved and cared for. At 2 o'clock in the morning, the streets will be deserted and people will be home in bed. More people will pay Social Security, instead of receive Social Security.
Self-esteem will be determined by personal achievement instead of classroom pep talks or radio wisecracks.
Now that Imus is gone.
Now that Imus is gone, our problems are solved, black America is saved.
What a great victory we have won.
Well, apparently, the St.Jude march route has changed. I will still march to honor our fallen, still, I think the other route was more impressive.
Be Safe.
You guys may be incorrectly assuming that Huberman is out. My guess is that he is still very much in. Kruesi was going pretty much immediately and Daley couldn't let that seat go unfilled but neither could the chief of staff's spot. This gives Huberman time to work with Kruesi for a few weeks to learn that job and also time to work with a successor chief when one is appointed. Sounds to me like Daley is training his personal successor for Mayor or putting Huby in a holding spot until he can appoint him Super. You all want to overlook that Huby holds a double MBA from the Univ of Chicago and whatever his sexual orientation is personally culturally and socially acceptable to a wide majority of Chicago residents as some kind of wonderkind. . . How many of you can say that your "black, white & jewish" all at the same time and if some of you are to be believed, gay at the same time and educated to boot, what more could you want. . . anyday he will show up with a law degree with high honors. . .
Yes, they make others on LOA resign after a certain amount of time and I'm sure anyone else on a 6 year LOA would be made to resign. Anyone know the policy on this or is this (again), a clout thing.
Will the west end of 008 now that summer is approaching get some aggresive officers?
4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
Absolutely not!!! Only tax payers live there and since we only cater to the mutts of society there will plenty of police babysitting those who have never contributed anything.
I think Daley is getting his haircuts with a hedge trimmer.
Was the sergeant's class cancelled because of impending litigation?
why are TRU and SOS at each others throats? They both have a purpose and they both have strengths and weaknesses. Yeah TRU is young and need to learn some more but the kids do try, its not their fault the department lets them come over with little time and not a lot of knowledge of the street.
As for SOS they have the experience and the know how but now they have a HUGE black eye, you cant mention those three letters without someone saying they got what they deserved, and for the most part thats true. They got away with a lot of shit for along time and now that the hammer is comming down it really sucks. Its a lot easier to get over their but the damage has been done, who the hell wants to ride around like a PPO with someone watching you all day?
TRU you guys are hard workers just need more guidence and experience. Keep up the good work but remember to keep your nose clean and dont fall into the many traps this job put in your way. And in the words of William Shakespear "He doth protest too loudly" meaning dont talk too much shit about the boys on Fillmore. You're just a fuck up, dumb ass or scandal away from being SOS II and then you will see what its like to have a bullseye on your back.
SOS sorry but youre going to have to take your hits and fight through the shit. Soon enough everyone who is supposed to be arrested or stripped will be and life will get back to normal. I doubt the city will disband the unit it would be a waste of experience and knowledge.
Hats off to both units, get the job done, dont listen to all the shit being said about you and do what needs to be done.
Always remember we do the same job we wear the same uniform, do your job right and go home in one piece.
1:26 AM
Take your "da job is legit" and "study harder" bullshit over to Checkerboard Chat.
Then take a gallon Kool-Aid colonic and call me in the morning, "boss".
The chase that started in the 004th District was an example of how a text book chase should be. Started out after on-viewing the bad guys attempting a robbery, the unmarked calls it in, the wanted vehicle is also wanted for several armed robberies and agg. batts which were very violent in nature and all occured within the last 24 hrs, this was relayed to the vehicles involved, when it was possible a marked car took over and continued the chase and sgt. and field lt. and watch commander knew how violent these subjects were and they were possibly armed agained. The chase was terminated after the chase cars lost sight of the offenders, per order. By that time the state police and other districts picked it up. All I can say is to bad we only have a helicopter that only flies business hours....
Security at the new police stations is a joke. Anybody walks in and can slip by the desk crew for one of three reasons; officers are busy doing paper work, officers don't verbally challenge anyone, or those at the desk may be a little to lazy when it comes to security issues and think nothing bad will happen here. LET'S GET REAL PEOPLE. DON'T LET THESE GOOFS HANG AROUND. THROW THEIR BUTTS OUT OF THE BUILDING. ONE MORE THING, ALL PEOPLE IN CIVILIAN DRESS INCLUDING CITY TRADES PEOPLE--WHERE YOUR I.D. !!!
The Ant and the Grasshopper: 2 Scenarios
*OLD VERSION*:
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building
his
house and laying up supplies for the winter.
The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and
plays the summer away.
Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed.
The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.
MORAL OF THE STORY: Be responsible for yourself!
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*MODERN VERSION*:
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building
his
house and laying up supplies for the winter.
The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and
plays the summer away.
Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and
demands to know why the ant should be warm and well fed while
others
are cold and starving.
CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the
shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable
home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp
contrast.
How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor
grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?
Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody
cries when they sing, "its Not Easy Being Green."
Jesse Jackson stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house
where
the news stations film the group singing, "We shall overcome." Jesse
then has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's
sake.
Nancy Pelosi & John Kerry exclaim in an interview with Larry King
that
the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both
call
for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him p ay his fair
share.
Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity and Anti-Grasshopper
Act
retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for
failing
to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing
left
to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the
government.
Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a
defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a
panel
of federal judges that Bill Clinton appointed from a list of
single-parent welfare recipients.
The ant loses the case.
The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits
of
the ant's food while the government house he is in, which just
happens
to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him because he doesn't
maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. The grasshopper is
found dead in a drug related incident and the house, now abandoned,
is
taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the once peaceful
neighborhood.
MORAL OF THE STORY: Be careful how you vote
Stay Safe everyone.
"It never ceases to amaze me regarding the whining of coppers on this blog regarding women and monorities receiving preferential treatment. I am a minority who scored in the top fifty on the sergeant's exam, and I know at least 20 other minorites and women who scored in the top 100. I also made Detective via the 1999 test, all when everyone told me the "fix" was in. I even had a sergeant tell me point blank, that I could not be promoted because the process wasnt fair. If coppers would try to learn how to take the promotional exam, instead of being concerned about what minority officers are getting, they would do better." 4/20/2007 01:26:00 AM
All AGREE with you 100% IF there was no merit. Because of merit what you accomplish will never be looked at as your achievement, but because you MIGHT have been given special treatment, because of your race/sex/etc. Merit hurts ALL that do it legit. Only ones that make out are those that can't pass the test, or the clouted. Merit is evil as there are a LOT of bosses that have NEVER passed a test but get merited or clouted up through the ranks. IF they were to keep merit, then a person should be allowed only ONE merit promotion in his career.
Anonymous said...
Ron Hubermann, 6 years police officer named as head of the CTA? What the hell are his qualifications? Sitting at Richies beck and call for several years?
is he on L.O.A he should resign.. is there other po's that were denied a L.O.A
4/20/2007 08:40:00 AM
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You people better do the math,
Huberman Date of Appointment:
10 July 1995.
Academy: Jul 95 - Dec 95
Probation in Dist.:
Jan 96 - 09 Jul 96
Educational LOA 1999
= 3yrs on the street!!!!!
Also, google him and you will find his bio states that he was, "a beat officer, bicycle officer, and a GANG SPECIALIST!!!!!!!"
He also, in three yrs. on the street did everything. I'm telling ya, google him and look up his bio.
He's so full of SH*T!!!!!
I thought (back in the late 90's)that a Gang Specialist was a promotion that was obtained by taking the Detectives exam.
Talk about embelishing on your resume.
chase on zone13 was an ISP pursuit originating from an incident in 003, chicago was support only. two offenders wanted for 10+ armed robberies driving a stolen car. it was a complete failure of the interdepartmental communications system. OEMC was telling us they were at the ryan/taylor while state was on the air saying madison/cicero. good news, nobody got hurt. bad news, offenders got away.
ron "superclout" hubermann and mayor daley inspired me to send my resume' for the cpd superintendent position.
apparently, the fact that i'm not a cop is not important in this city!!
Subject: Academy Fitness Center
How come ONLY P.O.'s, retired P.O.'s and civilians employees can use the fitness center?
I wanted to bring in my girlfriend and was told no.
Yet, Dana Starks son
(who is NOT the police and couldn't pass the POWER test) can use it?
That's B*llsh*t!!
Have the ole man pay for him to go to Bally's like all the other relatives that can't use a Dept. facility!
Face it old goats, the gel police are smarter, better, and after they have a little time on the job, runs circles around your ass. Stop Complaining about the PPO's. You were a PPO too and didn't know shit when you got on.
"OFC.H FROM 014TH MIDNIGHTS IS THE BIGGEST..." not a p.o. who wrote this.
I was told by a 18th dist sgt. that there is a po in 18 that works a traffic car from 6am to 3:30pm that cannot control his emotions.
If he gets into any type of altercation on the job he cries. They cant find a place to keep him from public contact.
He is supposed to be a really nice guy but troubled. How the hell do we get guys like this on the job? I wonder if he goes to inprogress calls? Should make him a fto.
no the biggest asshole officer is b.m in 008
Although it is good to vent anonymously sometimes, I think it is better to talk to the person or supervisor you have a problem with and much of these simple disagreements can be easily resolved. I hope everyone looks out for each other and backs each other up. And as always, Stay Safe
OK! Hey Commander Dulay your a fucking ass hole prick. when are you going to stop fucking over PO'S How is that! think it will work. You officer are in he world of oz.
My father used to tell me if you can't keep a job for more than 2 years, there is something wrong with you.
Lets count all the jobs Huberman has had,and the great job he did in each.
Police Officer- Fantastic
Acting Director data System. CHRIS Case, making the CPD PAPERLESS. Beat cars doing case reports on their PDTS, ect ect.
Then promoted to ADS, tweaked all of those fine accomplishments...not.
Over to OEMC. Spent millions on a Communications Van that doesnt work. Cameras all over the city that cant even pick up a wayward coyote walking around DOWNTOWN. Broke morale at OEMC to an all time low.
Went to city hall, cleaned up all the corruption there. Cleaned up merit promotions ( hey look in the mirror) and now that city hall is as clean as heaven, moves onto the CTA. Lets see what he can do with that mess. CAn you say strong union? They can strike can't they?
The only good news is that it would be high unlikely that he would ever return to the CPD in any capacity.
Hey Fire Department, looking for a boy wonder who can solve all your problems for you? You guys have to be next in line.
To: "Yes, they make others on LOA resign after a certain amount of time and I'm sure anyone else on a 6 year LOA would be made to resign. Anyone know the policy on this or is this (again), a clout thing.
4/20/2007 06:22:00 PM"
Like it or not, an exceptions are made if the party goes to another position in City of Chicago government job or elected office.
Subject: Academy Fitness Center
How come ONLY P.O.'s, retired P.O.'s and civilians employees can use the fitness center?
I wanted to bring in my girlfriend and was told no.
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Leave your girlfriend at home you pussy.
To: Everyone and, "Daley's son is in the 82nd Airborne, which is currently in Kuwait on it's way to Iraq.
Give him a great deal of credit!!!
4/20/2007 10:11:00 AM"
Hope he and all the troops stay safe and he does not follow his dad into politics.
Following the Michigan Beach baseball bat battery incident he was shipped off to the United States Military Academy on an appointment by Congressman Lipinski. Poor kids get jail, rich kids get military school.
He dropped out of West Point after a year, but he still had the enlistment commitment to fulfill. It took until he was age 29 for the Army to catch up to him.
I still can't get over the tearful, "My son is dead!", tirade the old man went into when reporter Andy Shaw asked him if he was grooming his son for the mayor's job. How dysfunctional can you be if dad will not publicly acknowledge the son's existence?
The problem with this dept., as I see it is too much in-fighting. Take a look at most of the comments of the blue shirts on this blog--old guys vs. young guys, unit vs. district, white guys vs. black guys, male coppers vs. female coppers, afternoons vs. midnites, and on and on. The reason why we can't get a decent contract is because we as p.o.'s can't even agree to disagree, settle our differences and work towards the greater good of better pay,benefits etc...I don't know about you guys but i came on this job to be the police and be able to provide for my family, not to make friends/enemies and have a social network. Who gives a shit about who got what spot/promotion etc....worry about yourself and your family and keep your fellow p.o.'s no matter who they are or where they're from safe.
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I'm with you.
.To: "JOHN "FUCK OUR POLICE" DINEEN. He is the guy who gave away the store and then when he retires he caused so much grief that the retirees got screwed.
Isn't he the one who got the contract where we got a small bonus but had to agree to pay $2 a paycheck for health insurance?
We used to have great health plans and they were part of our compensation package. I always wondered what health plans and what retirement plans the mayor and the aldermen have.
WARNING TO THE NEW SERGEANT'S CLASS
J-D also set the president that if you are promoted to sergeant, the FOP will no longer represent you for CR #s that occurred as a police officer. Go from a blue shirt to a white shirt in before the final decision and the FOP disowns you.
PBPA cannot represent you as you were not under their contract
10:14 stay off the blog, you are wrong and so was the 003rd district tact team. if they weren't busy doing sol's they would have known about the robbery pattern, after all, 004 sent a teletype out earlier
"Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!"
Called off by 004, state picked it up and that was how it ended up in 012. 004 believed the vehicle was used in a pattern of armed robberies, 003 tact got on the zone 45 mins later to inform the troops that it was a domestic related veh theft and my hats off to 1299 for the dig. Too bad it went over their heads to appreciate it.
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So, what was 1299's dig? please share. And when did this happen? Was it on midnights?
I was told by a 18th dist sgt. that there is a po in 18 that works a traffic car from 6am to 3:30pm that cannot control his emotions.
If he gets into any type of altercation on the job he cries. They cant find a place to keep him from public contact.
He is supposed to be a really nice guy but troubled. How the hell do we get guys like this on the job? I wonder if he goes to inprogress calls? Should make him a fto.
Yes it is off. W. He is missing a few screws. They try to hide him on his own little car on days doing nothing but traffic accidents.
He just fvcked over a commanders family member and he was really wrong. He will soon be taking some heavy time. He is a great guy but just a little loose upstairs. Cant make a judgment call. He is bad for our already tarnished rep!
hi im new on this job..... how does one get on the 'event number' team? i mean the tact team
ANYONE BEEN 'TRICKIFIED' LATELY????
HEY 10:19 FUCK YOU AND YOUR BOYFRIEND YOU PIECE OF SHIT
Way too much college, not enough high school!
Anonymous said...
Will the west end of 008 now that summer is approaching get some aggresive officers?
4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
858 u guys rock! some of us appreciate your hard work. glad to see you out there.
Mr. 4/20/2007 08:48:00 AM wrote:
"If you want real street cops, you have to train real street cops. We are training poopie pants cops."
Ha! Poopie Pants Cops strikes again!
Anonymous said...
Any info on the chase that started in 004 and ended in 012? I can't believe they let it go that far!!!
4/20/2007 02:18:00 AM
Homicide suspect,first time Copper 33 used(FLIR)to track suspect.Nothing further,will advise,out.
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You're an idiot. It was a domestic related hot car. That's it. All the chatter about 10 armed robberies was not true. There was no gun, no robbery, NO HOMICIDE, and definetely NO CHOPPER. Where the hell do you get your information!? It was a fun chase though.
Anonymous said...
Daley's son is in the 82nd Airborne, which is currently in Kuwait on it's way to Iraq.
Give him a great deal of credit!!!
4/20/2007 10:11:00 AM
Ummm....NO, do not give HIM credit.
And to the poster saying "He can't choose his family....WAKE The F$#K UP!
His son has been in the 82nd the entire time...and never deployed!!!??
How can that be?
Ask anyome who has been in the 82nd...even the REMF's get deployed ONCE in awhile.
The King has his son taken care of, in the MF-ing Army, of all places...to groom him for public service. BET ON IT!
He will be running for something and use his "enlstment" as his calling card.
This offends me, and the real soldiers who do not have a whopper of a phone call, who actually have been deployed.
A joke...even if he did not choose his family. He sure likes to use the name.
Ask the kids in Grand Beach
Anonymous said...
To: Everyone and, "Daley's son is in the 82nd Airborne, which is currently in Kuwait on it's way to Iraq.
Give him a great deal of credit!!!
4/20/2007 10:11:00 AM"
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WRONG!
His Unit might be in Kuwait but he is attending any and all military schools that he can, presently in Georgia.
OK! Hey Commander Dulay your a fucking ass hole prick. when are you going to stop fucking over PO'S How is that! think it will work. You officer are in he world of oz.
I agree he is a total jerk. But his time is limited and will long gone before you know it. Just ignore him. There will be a lot of cake left over on his last day!
GSB, SSA student, who also protects Chicago citizens, receives honor
Ron Huberman, 27, a Chicago police officer and dual master’s degree graduate student in the School of Social Service Administration and the Graduate School of Business, has been awarded a 1999 Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans.
One of 30 recipients from 1,200 applicants nationwide, Huberman wants to use the problem-solving insights of social work and the management and leadership training of business school to “lead a more effective, efficient and compassionate police department.
“I’d like to lead a police agency some day. There are a lot of technicalities involved in the administration of a law enforcement agency that a business education can address.” Huberman said the School of Social Service Administration will prepare him to “effectively analyze and design innovative policy.”
Born in Tel Aviv, Israel, Huberman became a U.S. citizen in 1982. Raised by parents whose families had died in the Holocaust, Huberman and his family moved to the United States and resided in Tennessee. Huberman decided to become a police officer at age 6 when he and his mother were the victims of an armed robbery.
Huberman became a police officer after receiving his B.A. in English and psychology from the University of Wisconsin at Madison in 1994.
After graduating the Chicago Police Academy and joining the Chicago Police Department, Huberman sought assignment in the 24th District in Rogers Park where he continually worked to drive out contending gangs from his beat. “I really chose it because of the diversity of its population,” he said.
He has been honored with a Department Commendation, The Spirit of Rogers Park Award, an Officer of the Month award and 24 Honorable Mentions.
After two and a half years of service as a beat officer and as a tactical gang team officer during part of his service, Huberman decided he wanted a broader intellectual basis for the leadership roles to which he aspired. He then began school as a part-time student in the SSA and the GSB while still serving the police department. Huberman was granted an educational leave of absence in December 1998 to pursue his studies full time.
He said his education at Chicago offers the framework for his goals. “I felt that by attending the University of Chicago I could get the best education that I needed.”
While at the University, Huberman has volunteered at Cook County Hospital and was awarded the Albert Schweitzer Fellowship for his efforts to improve health care for impoverished residents in Cook County.
The Soros fellowships, supported by a charitable trust established in 1997, are awarded each year to new Americans––immigrants or children of immigrants––pursuing graduate studies.
Huberman said his University studies have taught him that what he reads and learns about immigration from the media “misses a lot of the history and contributions made by immigrants.” He said he is thankful for the opportunity to receive the Soros Fellowship, which supports new Americans who “have something positive to add to the culture.”
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Anonymous said...
Daley's son is in the 82nd Airborne, which is currently in Kuwait on it's way to Iraq.
Give him a great deal of credit!!!
4/20/2007 10:11:00 AM
Credit for finally fulfilling his obligation? Oh yeah, da mare forgot to mention that his 30 Y.O. boy had forgotten to fulfill his commitment when he got out of his little baseball bat incident and sent to the military academy years ago. Can't wait till the "hero" gets back so all the assholes in this city can vote him in as the next mayor!
Since most P.O.s hate the merit system......Demand that Daley's lap dog (Donahue)make this an issue for the next contract!
Wasn't A. Baldwin caught on tape beating up a Polish bartender on the NW side???
To the readers of this blog and those who used to read the second city dick blog. What is the deal with Det McElroy who is now in area 1, is she as stupid as I believe she is or is she worse?
Defective McElroy is a fuckin goof.
to the minority ranked in top 20 on sgts exam and the other 20 that were in the top 100, you should all be promoted. But the ones that shouldnt be promoted are the ones that get to jump ahead all of the white coppers just because of their race. I love when minorities whine about the process not being fair to all. 5 plus 5 equals 10 whether you are black, white, or hispanic. How in the hell is the test unfair to minorities? If you are in the top few hundred you should be promoted, if not then you shouldnt be. What a fucking concept huh? Whites dont whine about the guys that actually score good, they whine about the clowns that are dumber than a box of rocks yet jump to the top of the list because of their race
Face it old goats, the gel police are smarter, better, and after they have a little time on the job, runs circles around your ass. Stop Complaining about the PPO's. You were a PPO too and didn't know shit when you got on.
4/20/2007 09:34:00 PM
Yeah!!! PPO's rock!! SCHWANDT-- GO TO 5!! GO TO 5!!!
Anonymous said...
Does anybody know whats up with all those temp. plates from Indiana and Wisconsin? Are they bogus or what?
4/20/2007 09:38:00 AM
On t-stops for Indiana drivers, ask if they have their concealled carry permit......then make them produce the weapon, and there's your freebie gun pinch.
Cars with Minnisota plates are "riddin dirty"...the LINK/SSI system is so leinient in MN that the dog-asses claim residency there as well as the ghetto to collect their "checks".
Wisconsin drivers do not need a Social Security Card to obtain a license......you go figure what to do there.
That's all I cant think of for now.
Oh, and Texas plates are a sign of being on some bullshit too!
008 was ruined by that fat fuck Carrol, good ridens fuck face, Now we all hope you fuck up the airport like you did the 008Dist.Fuck Donnie Barrett, when is IAD going to investigate this asshole for ghost payroll....
To the poster who claims to see only the "laziest black MFers" on this job, obviously you've never worked in 008, 022 or 016. I suggest you transfer to either of the thre districts mentioned for fresh persepective on just WHO the
real "laziest MFers" on this job are, and where they are employed.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Will the west end of 008 now that summer is approaching get some aggresive officers?
4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
Yeah no kidding, Bt 812 never seems to be on the beat. Hey wanna patrol the new 7-11 at 63rd and Oak Park???? Or the 2 houses 6314 & 6318 S Oak Park that has gangbangers sitting on th porch and not dam thing being done about it. I know you guys are scared to leave that BS D.O.C. but can we get some service once in awhile????? Oh well this area is shot to hell anyways thank god Im moving, its like Mexico over here. 008 thanks for nothing!
Give Daley's kid a break. At least he is serving his country. That is more than most other guys his age can say. How many other children of politicians both Democratic or Republican have served or are currently serving in the military? The answer is very few. Also how many other guys in the past had to join the service to stay out of jail and later went on to serve honorably and well. Some of them are or were even on this job.
To 4/21/2007 6:19:00A.M. & 6:48:00A.M
I don't like Richard Daley either, but leave his kid alone. At least his son is serving his country. I wonder if either one of you ever did. Will you finally be happy and get off his case if God forbid, he is badly wounded or comes home in a box?
HEY 10:19 FUCK YOU AND YOUR BOYFRIEND YOU PIECE OF SHIT
4/21/2007 02:57:00 AM
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Wow...... That's the best you can come up with?
Oh, that's right, look at the time. You stayed at Darlin's till 2:30am this time. Thanks for proving my point for me. Loser.
daley's son is like his daddy a bullshitter he is doing nothing but going to school and will use it as daley passes the mayors hat to him watch and see it is all aploy! war hero sorry he is just a war zero!
Anonymous said...
Face it old goats, the gel police are smarter, better, and after they have a little time on the job, runs circles around your ass. Stop Complaining about the PPO's. You were a PPO too and didn't know shit when you got on.
4/20/2007 09:34:00 PM
THANKS FOR RUNNING CIRCLES THAT IS WHY YOU NEVER GET ANYWHERE! JUST KEEP PAYING IN PENSION FUND KIDS AND WORK HARD I WILL WATCH YOU WORK!AS I GET ALL THE TIME AND 1/2 OVERTIME JOBS AND YOU DON'T! GO TO COURT MORE WORK FOR $10.00 AN HOUR AT CARNIVALS THANKS FOR THE EXTRA CONTRIBUTIONS!
Wonder what the Blackhawks doing tonight... Must be nice to be on summer vacation already.
Stay out of Daley's sons business you nosey idiot. Who cares where he is stationed. At least he had enough balls to sign up to fight in this stupid war that is only making Bush and his buddies rich, while innocent people are dieing everyday. Did I say, fuck you very much for your interest. Now go get a life, you stupid copper!
OK! Hey Commander Dulay your a fucking ass hole prick. when are you going to stop fucking over PO'S How is that! think it will work. You officer are in he world of oz.
I agree he is a total jerk. But his time is limited and will long gone before you know it. Just ignore him. There will be a lot of cake left over on his last day!
I could not believe it when Cline made Dulay a dist Commander this prick has no people skills or any type of management skills.
You can take an undetermined LOA if you are working with any other City agency.
FYI,
According to my sources,
Only 2 of the 82nd's four
bigade combat teams are deployed.
2nd BCT in Iraq and the
4th BCT in Afghanistan.
Elements of other units maybe there too. However, that is not the entire division. What unit is
jr. in?
Anyway, the man is in the
airborne, and not in some business unit at the pentagon.
Anonymous said...
Stay out of Daley's sons business you nosey idiot. Who cares where he is stationed. At least he had enough balls to sign up to fight in this stupid war that is only making Bush and his buddies rich, while innocent people are dieing everyday. Did I say, fuck you very much for your interest. Now go get a life, you stupid copper!
4/21/2007 03:55:00 PM
He didn't volunteer, He was forced to fulfill his obligation. He was painted into a corner. So, GFY democratic suckass.
Anonymous said...
When will more street coppers be hired?
4/20/2007 07:51:00 AM
You are kidding, right? Street cops are not hired, they are trained. It starts in the academy and then they are trained on the street by us. The only thing they have been trained to do is... I can't hin k of a thing that they have been trained to do right. FTOs are mostly kiss asses who were incompetents themselves. Some have no time on the job. A few are great, but they are only a few.
The academy institutes a culture of fear inot the recruits instead of a culutre street smarts. It is all academics, and reinforcing the fallacy of lawsuits and indictmkents. Kids are so scared when they come out they are useless.
And to those of you who are such cowards- very very few cops ever lost their precious raised rances, jobs, bank accounts, or what ever. Fewer ever went to the joint. Those very few that did were so wantonly negligent and reckless they deserved what they got.
If you want real street cops, you have to train real street cops. We are training poopie pants cops.
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Oh you must have forgot your first day on the street, but maybe not... you might have been the egotistical asshole recruit that nobody wanted to work with Because Ummm you knew it all, you were the best! Get Real Stupid!
Ok, sure, what secret study group were you in?
4/20/2007 11:41:00 AM
To answer your question for the Sgt. Exam I took 3 study groups.
1. Berstein
2. Lt. Camacho at the Academy
3. Dep. Skahill at the Academy
Mind you, none of these groups were perfect, but if you really got what Bernstein was saying, he taught you how to answer weighted questions. Camacho's group was instrumental in simulating the length and pressure of the exam, and Skahill's group really, I mean really helped for the type of questions that could be asked.
Also the candidate preparation guide was a little misleading about how many answers you should give. It scared many officers into only giving 3 or 4 answers on the scenarios, when in acutuality, if the question did not specify, you should always give as many answers as possible in order to score maximum points. And beleive it or not, it was a minority sergeant who scored #3 on a previous exam who taught me this.
If you're so damned smart then you realize that you are the exception-and I know few exceptions where minority candidates can succeed on a level playing field, academically or professionally. It's regrettable, however, it's true. And it's not my fault. Don't blame me or anyone else for harboring resentment over affirmative action promotions. Would you board a jetliner knowing the pilot didn't pass a pilots examination and was awarded a pilots license in order to achieve some bizarre racial or ethnic parity amongst the pilots? I doubt you would. Hell, if Jim Tillman told me to expect bright sunshine I immediately reached for an umbrella! Just kidding. Congratulations on your great success on the Chicago Police Department, you're really one in a million, unfortunately.
The only affirmative action promotions on this Department are the ones that benifit the politically connected. I know minorities who are in with Daley and whites who are not. And of course, there are many whites who are in with Daley and minorities who are not. If that is affirmative action so be it.
But just remember, coppers have to LEARN HOW to take the exam. When they do they will pass due to their score, and not some merit based promotion. Mind you this is my second Sergeant's exam. The first one I scored in the 900's, but instead of blaming everyone else for my lack of preparation, I decided to prepare differently this time.
to the minority ranked in top 20 on sgts exam and the other 20 that were in the top 100, you should all be promoted. But the ones that shouldnt be promoted are the ones that get to jump ahead all of the white coppers just because of their race. I love when minorities whine about the process not being fair to all. 5 plus 5 equals 10 whether you are black, white, or hispanic. How in the hell is the test unfair to minorities? If you are in the top few hundred you should be promoted, if not then you shouldnt be. What a fucking concept huh? Whites dont whine about the guys that actually score good, they whine about the clowns that are dumber than a box of rocks yet jump to the top of the list because of their race.
As a minotiry I have merit base promotion, as it only allows for cronies of Daley and the Administration both Black and White to advance. I believe the test is not only fair, it was an excellent challege and oppurtunity to demonstrate you knowlege, skills and abilitites on the day of the exam. However, I invited several white officers to study, when 2 said they would study on their own, and one told me I would have to be Hispanic to make it as a minority. Well, sadly they did not do well on the exam. Any white, black, or hispanic that cannot be promoted and complains that it's "this group, or that goup", is just not studying properly.
If you want real street cops, you have to train real street cops. We are training poopie pants cops.
4/20/2007 08:48:00 AM
Who will train new recruits? Experienced officers refuse to consider working the academy. Academy full of SOS rejects and political hacks. FTO program is falling apart. Veteran officers treat new recruits like dogs. We need a new system.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE SGT'S CLASS???
No sgts class who cares? I will have a blue shirt on i blew everyone I could and all i have to show for it is this silly silly blue shirt! Who do I need to blow? can ED Burke do it as he did for many? How about billy banks? Maybe beavers who tok care of his illegitimate daughter D"Demeka" got he a 100K job working for daley! Someone please help!!
My initial reaction about Daley's son is to leave him alone, give him the benefit of the doubt and salute him for serving his country at a time of war.
But - I won't.
You and I know very well how deep the roots of the Daley Family weed systems go. I'm no conspiracy crank and I tend to have alot of faith in things but not with the Daley family.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn - some day - that the kid had to go overseas to avoid some poitical fallout here. Or Daley just wanted to groom the younger for King, when coronation day comes around in a few years, and having some "Organized mess hall and latrine operations" line items on the old resume would work some wonders at the ballot box.
Who really knows but with the 40+ years of the Daley's being the Daleys: I wouldn't put anything past them and this is no different.
WIth them there is ALWAYS a political current to anything that they do.
Just my two cents.
FTO's are shit. Nobody wants to work with them so they take the task of molding the new kids and fuck them up. The only excellent FTO in my district is giving it up.
0601, u sir are wrong it wans't 10 robberies, but it was four. Go back under 1299's desk.
If you want real street cops, you have to train real street cops. We are training poopie pants cops.
4/20/2007 08:48:00 AM
Who will train new recruits? Experienced officers refuse to consider working the academy. Academy full of SOS rejects and political hacks. FTO program is falling apart. Veteran officers treat new recruits like dogs. We need a new system.
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With SOS, and the FTO program in shambles. Maybe the next Super needs to address hiring, training and the FTO program.
As much as I hate everything Daley, I must clarify something...
Cadets at the military academys DO NOT have any military obligation until the begining of their third year. If they leave before the begining of their third year, there is no obligation to serve.
I Have to stop reading this blog! We all rip on each other but if it was face to face no one would say anything. Very sad but yet we all have the same blue shirts at one time!
THAT HDO HACK DELAVALL WHO WORK FOR AL "DIRTY" SANCHEZ HAD ONE OF THOSE UNLIMITED LEAVE OF ABSENSE. REMEBER AS LONG AS THESE STROKE ARE ON LEAVE THEY COUNT AS WORKING FOR THE DEPARTMENT. THAT MEANS THE FEW HUNDRED GUY ON LEAVES OF ABSENCE SHORT US MAN POWER.
HEY FOP WAKE THE FUCK UP AND GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. YOUOLD FARTS NEED TO GET VOTED OUT CAN ANY ONE SAY SANTAS VILLAGE.
. . . The academy institutes a culture of fear inot the recruits instead of a culutre street smarts. It is all academics, and reinforcing the fallacy of lawsuits and indictmkents. Kids are so scared when they come out they are useless. . . .
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Apparently you forgot when you went through the academy. The academics are there so that the recruit can pass the State exam.
Can't be the police unless you pass the State exam. State of ILL decides what is asked on that exam and provides the academies in the state with the guidelines for such.
As for reinforcing the fallacy of lawsuits and indictments, perhaps there are SOME instructors that talk about lawsuits (Law Unit Lawyers)but the Indictments =
they are all over the news!
Get over yourself and remember the first day, week, or month that you were on the street. How many PO's, Sgt's, Lt's, Capt's helped you out.
Perhaps, instead of critizing, you might want to be a bigger person and help that new recruit out. Offer some sound, valuable advise.
Maybe, the next time there is an FTO exam, you might want to take it. You might want to be part of the solution instead of the problem.
Have a nice life, A$$HOLE!
Hey 4/20/2007 07:38:00 PM
What's a LEGIT list?????
The current list is stacked with annointed ones too. How do you determine what is LEGIT??? There's no winning.
To 4/20 10:19
Actually, "beck and call" is correct and "beckoned call" makes you sound like an ass. Since to beckon is to gesture silently and to call is a verbal act, "beckoned call" doesn't even make any sense.
Intransitive verb phrase
be at (somebody’s) beck and call
(idiomatic) To be in the position of serving someone in any way they desire, usually unwillingly.
He had a small fleet of waiters and servants at his beck and call.
or this:
The idiom beck and call means "at the services of" or "ready to obey the wishes of." Sometimes misspelled as beckon call. To beckon means "to summon or signal using a silent gesture, like a wave" and "to lure or attract."
"Ingorant fuck," huh? Maybe you could start a new blog: "Idioms for Idiots."
Subject: Academy Fitness Center
How come ONLY P.O.'s, retired P.O.'s and civilians employees can use the fitness center?
I wanted to bring in my girlfriend and was told no.
Yet, Dana Starks son
(who is NOT the police and couldn't pass the POWER test) can use it?
That's B*llsh*t!!
Have the ole man pay for him to go to Bally's like all the other relatives that can't use a Dept. facility!
4/20/2007 08:57:00 PM
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Are you serious???! I LOVE the fact that they only allow POs! That's precisely why I quit my private gym membership...I got sick of the fact that the weightroom at my $600/yr gym was starting to look like a f'n prison yard. Plus, I don't have worry (as much) about some shithead gangbanger breaking into my locker! Keep your girlfriend out of the POLICE gym.
In response to this TOOLS statement below my reponse follows his....Yeah no kidding, Bt 812 never seems to be on the beat. Hey wanna patrol the new 7-11 at 63rd and Oak Park???? Or the 2 houses 6314 & 6318 S Oak Park that has gangbangers sitting on th porch and not dam thing being done about it. I know you guys are scared to leave that BS D.O.C. but can we get some service once in awhile????? Oh well this area is shot to hell anyways thank god Im moving, its like Mexico over here. 008 thanks for nothing!
4/21/2007 01:01:00 PM
Hey jag! I dont hear you calling 911 to get me overthere! I work on the west end and it's not my fault nor the 008th districts fault that we only have at the most 2 or 3 cars patroling that west end. Why dont you ask Dana starks! According to HIM we are'nt getting any more officers period in the 008th district and that we should shut up cause it aint gonna happen. Then 2 hours later this ass gets on tv and says that " we are putting more officers on the street to help the citizens"............THERE ARE OFFICERS WORKING THE WEST END YOU ASSHOLE! AND THEY ARE BRINGING IN GOOD SHIT EVERYDAY! YOU DO YOUR PART AND CALL 911 WHEN YOU SEE THE STUFF HAPPENING OR POST IT ON THIS BLOG CAUSE EVERY BIT OF INFO HELPS.
I and we can't be in 6 places at once and you should be bitching to the alderman why our cars get downed and sent over east, not bitching at the guys working the beat. You obviously dont work here and dont know the guys working the west end day in and day out trying to kick the shit out. Do us a favor and move ok or help out like I said above and either call 911, bitch to your alderman like everyone on the east end does or post some helpful info on this site. 008 is'nt the 008 it was 6months ago pal. There are workers here now. You seem to be the 1 scared. Grow some ballz and respond intelligently to this post.
FromAnOfficerKeepingTheWestEndSafe
Subject: Academy Fitness Center
How come ONLY P.O.'s, retired P.O.'s and civilians employees can use the fitness center?
I wanted to bring in my girlfriend and was told no.
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Take a day off from working out and go over to the credit union. They have really nice rates on personal loans so you can go out and buy yourself a set of nuts and tell your old lady to stay home.
A perfect example of the douche bags on the job these days.
To: 4/22/2007 12:07:00 PM
You sir did not get that post.
What they were trying to say is that, there is a NON PO being allowed to use it!!!!!
Dana Starks Jr.
The question is WHY?
I use to work on Daley's detail. You are lieing son of a bitch. He was not forced to go into the military. Daley was pissed by the way that he joined. Stop talking about things you know nothing about. He enlisted because he wanted to. He worked out and lost 30+ pounds in preparation.
Like I said, get some business you miserable copper!
Anonymous said...
I use to work on Daley's detail. You are lieing son of a bitch. He was not forced to go into the military. Daley was pissed by the way that he joined. Stop talking about things you know nothing about. He enlisted because he wanted to. He worked out and lost 30+ pounds in preparation.
Like I said, get some business you miserable copper!
4/22/2007 04:44:00 PM
Why don't you go back and beg for your job back as Rich and Maggies personal house boy, suckass bitch.
Signed, The Police
Since SCS refuses to post it, anyone hear any more info on the Lt.s exam? I didn't want to post this question here since 98% of the people who read SCC don't give a fu%$.
To answer your question for the Sgt. Exam I took 3 study groups.
1. Berstein
2. Lt. Camacho at the Academy
3. Dep. Skahill at the Academy
Mind you, none of these groups were perfect, but if you really got what Bernstein was saying, he taught you how to answer weighted questions. Camacho's group was instrumental in simulating the length and pressure of the exam, and Skahill's group really, I mean really helped for the type of questions that could be asked.
Also the candidate preparation guide was a little misleading about how many answers you should give. It scared many officers into only giving 3 or 4 answers on the scenarios, when in acutuality, if the question did not specify, you should always give as many answers as possible in order to score maximum points. And beleive it or not, it was a minority sergeant who scored #3 on a previous exam who taught me this.
4/21/2007 06:47:00 PM
I attempted to sit in on the one at the academy I was told to leave. Did not have a invite so kiss my ass with your lies
Face it old goats, the gel police are smarter, better, and after they have a little time on the job, runs circles around your ass. Stop Complaining about the PPO's. You were a PPO too and didn't know shit when you got on.
4/20/2007 09:34:00 PM
I wear a 6 shooter Yet when I have to tell the ppo who has a clip with 15 rounds to take their gun out when we have a man with a gun call I become a little bit concerned.
Is your girlfriend hot?
To 11;51Pm
Regarding the chase in 012, 1299 got on the radio to verify that the wanted vehicle was involved in armed robberies, all that was verified was that it was a known offender who took his girlfriend's car that night before, when he specifically asked about the robberies, no one from 004, 003 or the State confirmed the robberies.
Then he asked to meet with a supervisor from 003 or 004 to find out about the armed robberies, the supervisors all went back to their districts and weren't
available to meet with him, that's when 1299 ordered his cars not to chase, as he put it, a "domestic related stolen car."
If this was a legit car wanted an armed robbery, why the hell did the supervisors from 003 and 004 bail out and leave their cars to roam around the 012th District.
Get the facts straight asshole before you start bashing someone just because he wears a white shirt.
To 4/23/2007 08:24:00 AM,
Your wrong. #1330 was unable to mobile w/ 004th District so he requested the zone to do so for him. Moments later, Bt. #499 informed the zone, who then informed Bt. #1330, that the car was occupied by offenders who had committed an armed robbery (hand gun) that was on-viewed by 004th Dist. car that subsequently initiated the pursuit. This information was passed on to the troops on Zone 3. Get your facts straight!
To: The idiom beck and call means "at the services of" or "ready to obey the wishes of." Sometimes misspelled as beckon call. To beckon means "to summon or signal using a silent gesture, like a wave" and "to lure or attract
The use of both words together
goes back to the days of early English after William the Conqueror.
In those days the ruling class in England spoke French. So for things to be legal they had to be both in French and English such as "cease and desist."
I knew that all that watching the History Channel would come in handy some day.
After reading all of the posts in this blog regarding the chase that started in 004, I have learned something I had pretty much expected anyways. Its not just the media that screws up the facts it fellow coppers who tell stories through hearsay.
The night before in 003, this guy beats his girlfriends azz, and steals her car. Throughout the day along 75th and 79th street this car is identified by up to 8 victims in a string of armed robberies w handguns committed by 2 males one of which is positively identified as the original offender from the domestic.
That night 004 puts a team of unmarked officers on a direct mission in the area to look for these offenders. About 0100hrs. a guy crashes through an apartment complex door screaming some guys in a white car just pulled a gun on him and he ran away. About 0115 hrs. a short distance away a call comes out that 2 offenders in a white grand prix with the stolen tags on it just committed another armed robbery.
A short time later one of the unmarked cars spots the car at 75th and Jeffery which proceeds to flee, 004 and other CPD and ISP proceed to chase these animals all over the city.
The biggest shame of the whole thing is that these officers not only had to worry about the risk they were putting themselves in by trying to catch these fools, but also the fact the city would leave them out to dry most likely if something bad were to happen along the way.
Now its all a matter of opinion if the chase was worth it or not, but anyone who finds fault that some officers and supervisors thought that a a pair of azzholes who decided to go on a 24 hour crime spree with guns, were not worth putting the effort in to try and catch should not be the police or have most likely have reached the point in thier careers where they obviously just don't care.
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