A "Taste" of Police Work?
- Police on Thursday gave a behind-the-scenes look to reporters at what goes into training Chicago police officers.
- The police said by letting the public in on some of their guidelines and policies, citizens would understand police work better, and not immediately assume the worst during encounters.After a crash course in the basics and being outfitted with a police belt and gun, reporters got a chance to try to apply some of the lessons, Ponce reported. One exercise included a gunman holding a weapon to a woman's head. The person with the gun was training Officer Stanley Williams, whose job it is to train recruits to make split-second decisions in stressful situations like this one.
These media days are a good idea in theory. But we have yet to see a reporter change their viewpoints of the police because of what they experience here. Anyone else have an opinion on it?
Labels: media
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
78 Comments:
Give the media the best education that money can't buy--night school at the University of Fillmore.
Let them do a ride-along on Beat 1112 or 715 every day for a full month.
That might offer a bit more insight on the human debris we deal with day in and day out.
"But we have yet to see a reporter change their viewpoints of the police because of what they experience here."
Have you talked to any reporters who've gone through this thing? Nah, didn't think so.
Very rarely do I EVER see a positive news article about the police here in Philadelphia. The media practially portrays the police to be the criminals, and scumbags who commit crimes are glorified. It's so ass backwards.
I hate watching the news and I've come to dislike reading it in print or online as well.
Anything that's good, they make it ugly - everything from the job you all do to those in the military.
They're liberal idiots and are only looking for whatever sensational news headline that will sell, even if it's filled with half-truths. They care nothing about any of you or those who fight for their very freedoms they are afforded.
Eff the media!
Forget this nonsense!
Let each reporter do ride-a-longs outside the sterile environment of the academy.
And not with two hand-picked company men either. Real working police.
Perhaps this would be more effective.
Taunted by criminology students (who were former police) that he couldn't possibly understand what a police officers job was like, not having been one, academic Professor George L. Kirkham, often critical of police decided on a revolutionary step - to become a policeman, his prime objective being to establish "once and for all" that his frequent criticism of police was justified.
However, "walking a mile in the other person's shoes" completely reversed his attitude and after six months in the Police Force he returned to being a civilian and wrote a story of his experiences now regarded as a police classic, in which he stated "......I came home and took off the badge and blue uniform with a sense of satisfaction and contribution to society that I have never known in any other job".
While not a member of the media, Kirkham, like many liberal college professors, once took a similiarly dim view of the police.
How about this for an idea: Since Amy Jacobson is now looking for a job, why not propose that she go through the CPD academy like Kirkham? Let her graduate, spent 6 months in a fast district and then make a t.v. special about her experience.
you can only lead a horse to water, you cant make it drink.
It is another example of the idealistic bosse(s) trying to win over the media. You cannot argue or "win over" irrational ideologies. You can only force your opinions when in power and hope your tenure will last due to the support of your hopefully vertebrae"d" superiors. This is a limp-wristed attempt at an olive branch expected to be put in place by people who can barely train others who want to be the police let alone someone whose career could be made by one "story" about the police who, in their opinion, did not do there job correctly. I can almost guarantee this was either William's idea or some young exempt looking to make his mark. What the fuck were you thinking? Go through training, then to a busy district for at least five years. After I hear from the coppers you work with that you are good people, I may put an ounce of weight into your opinion. Until then, shut up, be a civilian, and and stop second guessing those whose job it is to respond to your calls for help.
The media's the ENEMY,PERIOD
---Have you talked to any reporters who've gone through this thing? Nah, didn't think so.---
I've talked to two. And though they appreciated the dog and pony show as a "human interest" story they can impress their dyed in the wool liberal editors with, even the smartest reporter knows that to advance in their jobs, they have to attack the police at every opportunity. So once again, SCC has it right.
These media days are a good idea in theory. But we have yet to see a reporter change their viewpoints of the police because of what they experience here. Anyone else have an opinion on it?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
I agree, it's a good idea "in theory". But the purpose of this day is the real question. If the media is interested in what training the recruit gets, it's a great idea. If the media is interested in the everyday experiences of an officer on patrol, then it's not realistic.
One might ask then, how the media could get a "realistic" experience and/or see what the average day is like in patrol or what the average officer feels about what it is he/or she does on a daily basis.
Unfortunately, it will never happen, that is, the media seeing what we experience. The reason is,in the academy setting, it's a sanitized version. The media observes how we are trained to react in a perfect world.
As we all know, in the real world, your back up isn't immediately on the scene, because there is a back log, and everyone is on a job themselves. The media isn't exposed to a situation where an officer is on the scene of a burglary in-progress or robbery and in searching for the offender(s)the officer has to deal with, homeowners that have accumulated so much clutter and filth that one should be wearing a contamination suit to properly enter the structure some call a residence or kids playing outside,as he/she search yards and buildings for the creep, walking onto land with over grown weeds and trees, or the yard that has a dog the size of a horse as a family pet; or the need to respond to a mother duck on the corner with her babies, or a plane circling above because a supervisor at OEMC tells the dispatcher they have to give the call out; and after dealing with all the nonsense of the day, an inspector arrives at check-off and admonishes you for having unpolished shoes or an extra pocket in your vest.
Even if a member of the media were to do a "ride a long" for a day, you can bet, the officer(s) would be hand picked for obvious reasons.
If the media has the time or interest in what goes on in the department, it needs to take the time, effort and money to do this. This would entail, listening to our calls,hearing the backlogs that are announced;investigating just how many officers and supervisors are hidden away in details or units with no purpose or who are doing a job a civilian can or is doing;the abuse of some, I say some, on the medical roll; the PDT situation (lack of or in disrepair) and radio problems such as batteries having a life of 4hrs. on a good day; Non-existent beat integrity; apathetic feelings of those in patrol who after experiencing all of the above, can't wait to retire and move away from this cesspool.
Its because police officers are generally boors at best. They disrespect the people they serve when or if they show up.
Didn't they try this several years ago and a bunch of the reporters ended up shooting the hostage in the trunk that time. A great idea would be to let them do ride alongs in 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 015 and 025 on a nice hot weekend.
I think the problem cops get in society is,
they enforce the laws and wishes of politicans.
Politicans have a bad name these days. You get to be part of that.
Plus Chicago cops have the gun control laws working against them. You do not control your politicans. They try and put those same failed policies on the rest of IL.
Anonymous said...
The media's the ENEMY,PERIOD
7/13/2007 05:51:00 AM
i second that, dont tell them shit. there's too many damn tv shows allready. we don't need to give them the playbook.
I can almost guarantee this was either William's idea or some young exempt looking to make his mark
Media Day has been a staple for decades. They just haven't done it in about 5 yrs.... It always gets a positive reaction in the press, and does buy a little consideration... and lets just say it is a fun day for the police....
True one night in englewood would really show the true side of policing and of the animals!
I agree with most of the comments. The media should do ride alongs in 011, 007, as well as observing the training one receives.
I agree with one of the posters here who stated that for the media to TRULY understand what we face every day, they should "ride along" with specific beat or tact cars in 015, 011, 010, 007, 006, 005, or 004. For several days. And THEN report about it. That sterile environment in the Academy just doesn't do any of us justice, and really gives the reporters only limited insight as to what street cops see and deal with weekly.
I would welcome any reporter to come and ride with me in 5, not for a day, not for a week, but a whole police period.
I'm sure the story would be the same in 4, 6, 7, 8, 11, 15, and 25. Hell, 9 might even qualify in this too. Let amyome of these reporters come spend time with a rapid, beat, incident, or tact car for a whole period and then see what it is really like.
That would be an education worth its weight in gold and something they could not duplicate in the CPD Academey or at Northwestern.
They need to do real rid alongs with working police in a fast district. Everyone knows that the academy is nothing compared to everyday life.
I'd shoot Stan Williams too....lol
To 7/13/2007 05:04:00 AM
wow you are REALLY hostile to Williams! Don't know if this was his idea, but they do this every few years. It's just another PR opportunity for headquarters
PUT THEM ASS WIPES IN LOCK UP SEARCHING THESE DIRTY ASSES.
WOULD THE MEDIA BELIEVE ALL THE SICK HERION ADDICT STORIES AFTER A FULL 8 HOURS.
I LOVE FINDIG PACK STUCK UP DUDES REAR ENDS CLASSIC.
HEY MAY BE AMY J COULD BE ARE MEDIA GAL IM TIRED OF THAT OVERTANNED WINDBAG WITH HIS MR. DRYSDALE (BANKER BEVERLY HILLBILLYS) HAIR STYLE.
remember you are the medis's whore every time you take a news paper from a news truck driver. write them tickets for running lights whatever. fuk the media.
I bet it was walk in the park for these reporters like when I was there. Everything was all mushy and easygoing. Too much classroom and not enough range or gym. Is Mac still there doing her step arobics and pilates??? I can tell you of about five to ten people that didn't even come close to passing gym, range or both. And there on the streets.
I don't know how it is now, but when I got there was the start of the pussificaion of the CPD. I can't tell you how many times I've seen some of these new p.o's just stand there as other officers are trading blows with some scumbag. Or some that let people get WAY too close, have their guard down, or put of with being talked down to by some hype. I'm not saying I'm the toughest guy out here, I've lost one or two. But I never lost one since being the police due to some great partners. That and the will to put bad guys in jail.
I hope things change, and I know we need bodies on the streets. But I dread to hear the news about somone being hurt or worse, only because his or her partner was too scared to lend a helping hand. Maybee next time I'm an AFTO I'll be honest and give the ppo the grade he/she really deserves. Rather than passing so they can act tough to their friends and to people on the street when there are 20+ coppers behind them
I was always more than willing to let the media get a taste of my Police Pork............ OH-- you said WORK----- my bad.
Only if Amy wears a bikini and a towel.
Wake up. Ideology matters.
Fuck the Media!
Screw the media, open this to the public. Several of the 'burbs have programs and they seem to be pretty effective in garnishing community support. If nothing else, it gives people a chance to interact with the police without having to get out their license and registration.
Let them do a ride-along on Beat 1112 or 715 every day for a full month.
That might offer a bit more insight on the human debris we deal with day in and day out.
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academy doesn't prepare you for that. i agree, the media should do a ride a long in those areas with hidden cameras so they can truly see what happens. 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 022, 025
take your pick
My brother was a liberal bleeding heart journalist and I was a "pig", until he got his ass beat on the orange line one bright, sunny afternoon by a bunch of twelve year old thugs.
Yes. Clothe them in police uniforms and drop them off at, oh, say 61st and calumet. They should feel the love shortly.
Since Amy Jacobson is now looking for a job, why not propose that she go through the CPD academy like Kirkham?
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Because she is a "princess".
Oy Vie!!
God Bless PO RAWA
Amy Jacobson in a leather Garrision belt! Yahoo!
The book is Signal Zero. It is out of print and very hard to find
Having had to "proctor" a couple of these media farces, I can honestly tell you that they laugh at each other's "mistakes" i.e; shooting the unarmed subject, getting into a needless physical confrontations with a victim, etc, but NONE OF THEM ever give a cop the benefit of the doubt when an officer, in a split second, shoots anyone. They are media scum.
the media should of went on a few ride a longs with da boys from sos so they could accurately report how innocent they really are,and not some half ass info passed on for them to air thus tarnishing not only da dept. but these guys that actually sought out hardened criminals
Those who haven't heard, K9 Handler Bob Rawa suffered a brain aneurysm Thursday night/Friday morning on the way home from a side job. He is currently at UIC hospital. The doctors did all they could, but he will be removed from life support this evening after 1700 hours.
Godspeed brother.
Speaking of training here is some info that might be handy to a few people.
FTOs are now carrying tasers. And most of them arent afraid to use them and know how to use them unlike most of the coward sgts who should also be carrying them but arent.
If you get into a situation where someone wants to fight you dont fight, just call someone over with a taser and let the taser do the talking.
There is absolutely no reason for anyone to fight and get hurt when you have a powerful and persuasive tool that when used properly and correctly will render the scumbag helpless and you can get them cuffed and stuffed right away.
Myth: I will get shocked if i touch someone who is getting tased. You wont get shocked unless you touch the offender between the two probe entry points. The key to being successful if cuff the a$$hole while he is getting the 5 second tase.
If you have any questions please feel free to ask anyone now carrying the taser and I am sure they will be glad to answer any questions or help you in any way.
remember, take no @$#%$ from anyone, stay safe and stay smart.
7/13/2007 04:53:00 PM
you're right. half the SGTs don't even carry the tasers, the other half that do are too afraid to use them. I already talked too 3 FTOs who have used it.
1:15 AM & 8:31 AM
A lot of the so-called police on the job should join the media in that "ride-along" in 011 and 007.
How many worthless clout babies and house mice have never even seen a cockroach, let alone constantly responded to bloody in-progress calls? Of those, how many were annointed "merit" bosses?
Your typical exempt is a shameless pussy with knee-pads.
7/13/2007 06:17:00 AM
I didn't get all of that.
Could you say it again?
You are right on the mark!
to
Anonymous said...
My brother was a liberal bleeding heart journalist and I was a "pig", until he got his ass beat on the orange line one bright, sunny afternoon by a bunch of twelve year old thugs.
7/13/2007 11:44:00 AM
you said was? what is he
doing now?
SCC,
I don't think you should have posted anything
on the K9 officer until
official statements have been made.
Such as teletype message.
Have you talked to any reporters who've gone through this thing? Nah, didn't think so.
7/13/2007 02:15:00 AM
Sorry to disagree but Ron Magers and David Navarro have nothing but kudos for us.
REPOSTED FROM THE AMY JACOBSON POST,BUT APPLICABLE TO THE MEDIA IN GENERAL:
If this entire episode doesn't show the general public and coppers in particular what TODAY'S media are capable of, nothing ever will.
In my humble opinion every aspect of this fiasco is suspect.
The media will manipulate facts,distort truth and report anything to attract numbers. FACTS,OBJECTIVITY,TRUTH,ETHICS AND MORALS ARE ALL WORDS UNKNOWN TO THE MEDIA.
This is probably why ratings are in the dump and people discard most journalism as garbage. Learn to discern the truth and read between the lines. The corporate media only serve one master, the wealthy power elite.
TASERED A GANGBANGER IN 025 OTHER NITE, WHEN OFFICERS CALLED FOR SGTS W/TASERS, ONE OF THE LATE SGTS SAID ON RADIO "SEND AN FTO, THEY GOT TASERS NOW." NICE GEORGE, VERY NICE.
Anonymous said...
Those who haven't heard, K9 Handler Bob Rawa suffered a brain aneurysm Thursday night/Friday morning on the way home from a side job. He is currently at UIC hospital. The doctors did all they could, but he will be removed from life support this evening after 1700 hours.
Godspeed brother.
7/13/2007 04:40:00
Great Guy! God Bless Brother Bob!
Anonymous said...
Those who haven't heard, K9 Handler Bob Rawa suffered a brain aneurysm Thursday night/Friday morning on the way home from a side job. He is currently at UIC hospital. The doctors did all they could, but he will be removed from life support this evening after 1700 hours.
Godspeed brother.
7/13/2007 04:40:00 PM
READING THIS MADE ME GO NUMB...I HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE OF MEETING BOBBY WA 12 YEARS AGO IN THE ACADEMY.
I PRAY FOR HIM....VERY SAD
They need to go on a ridealong, to see how these animals live & treat the cops. I don't know which is worse though: the animals or how the Chicago cops just take all the crap slung their way.
Please bring back the old school of Chicago cops. Bring back...
the INSANE FISH
LOL
Amy Jacobson is NOT jewish, she is an Episcopalian and her husband is from Spain.
For anyone who's been paying attention to police related developments, thos will come as no surprise. Many jurisdictions offer a "citizen's police academy." This is not something that any genious boss thought up all on their own. I do agree with the majority of the posters who wish that the citizens were alowed to see the "real" Chicago. There would be a change of viewpoint pretty damn quickly.
Take your reporter to work day....bad idea.
Here is a reason why media should go on ridealong:
http://policelink.com/
entertainment/videos/
198-audio-only-floyd-county-shooting-tape
(you have to register to hear this via policelink, ran by odmp.org.) damn heartbreaking.
Let's do a fund raiser...give the reporters simmunitions training, we bid on who gets to shoot at each of the reporters, highest bidder gets the joy...I'm thinking the widows fund could really benefit from this!! I'm in for Jay Levine...
Eric Zorn on Amy Jacobson's relationship with the Plainfield Police and Amy's cooperation with the police as a news reporter:
When I pressed her on the practice of sharing information with authorities before sharing it with viewers or her bosses, she said, “Don’t reporters normally do that?”
The answer to that is no, they shouldn't. Unless it's an emergency situation -- "the kidnapper went that-a-way!" -- reporters are never to give important information to police before they give it to their audience (or get an OK from editors
Zorn You TOOL
SCC,
I wrote you awhile ago about the dangers of Chinese imports,particularly food and suggested a post on the subject.
Did you catch that Red China put to death the head of their FDA and imprisoned numerous heads for accepting bribes so uninspected goods/food could be exported.
Now Red China is claiming that US meat is contaminated. Followup on this topic.
It might be time to reinvoke the BUY AMERICAN campaign, but what could you buy American these days?
Globalism=Death of Nationalism
God Bless America
I'm sure Amy Jacobsen has a new view on "slanting the news." Screw her!!! She certainly wasn't to kind to the Jefferson Tap lads when she did her take on that.
2550 on afternoons will retire soon. Who will take over the late car clown circus?
07/13/2007 7:43am....we disrespect the people when we show up? i have a question for you have you ever worked in a community where acceptable behavior is bashing people over the heads with golf clubs and baseball bats....nope! i thought not. about the comment about how we never show up! when working in the "minority community" we deal with dozen of calls on a daily basis from the 8 yearold is out of control. grandma calling for the 100000000000 time how their grandson is being disrespectful and they want us to parent the child because the parents are failures as parents. i know for a fact that in a busy district in the afternoon we have dozens of jobs waiting for us and especially the ever present riots at the west side high schools ,so sorry we get busy at times!. so my friend before you make a stupid comment like that ride along a hot summer day in a busy district and lets see if you can do it better. i bet you are some liberal whiney cry baby whose still in college and never worked a day in his life! so tell us how would you do it better since you are such an expert on police work?
"She certainly wasn't to kind to the Jefferson Tap lads when she did her take on that.
7/14/2007 06:52:00 AM "
The Jeff Tap Lads Reaped what they sown.Jeez,is this mistyeyed blubbering for those clowns ever going to end? WTFU!!
TASERED A GANGBANGER IN 025 OTHER NITE, WHEN OFFICERS CALLED FOR SGTS W/TASERS, ONE OF THE LATE SGTS SAID ON RADIO "SEND AN FTO, THEY GOT TASERS NOW." NICE GEORGE, VERY NICE.
7/13/2007 07:58:00 PM
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"The more shit you have on your gunbelt, the less shit you have in your head"
~ quote from Ret. Sgt. Bill KASINAK 025th District
You fuckin' kids should take his advise. I'm sure "Sgt George" who has 41 years on the job would agree.
You goofs in 025 can't wipe your asses without calling for a sergeant every 20 minutes. If we called for a sergeant more than twice a night when I came on - checkoff was 25 minutes after the hour.
Amy Jacobson is NOT jewish, she is an Episcopalian and her husband is from Spain.
7/13/2007 10:14:00 PM
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Who gives a shit? She's a liberal anti-police bitch.
When do We get to do ride alongs with the media? Can I go swimming with Amy Jacobson at Craig Stebics house?
the media will go thru these scenarios and later do a story on it for ratings sake, but they will forget about all those split second decisions and still stab us in the back without blinking an eye for that next story, "How to Burn a Cop". Go on medical for stress more often, make the City pay for selling us out every time.
Let's do a fund raiser...give the reporters simmunitions training, we bid on who gets to shoot at each of the reporters, highest bidder gets the joy...I'm thinking the widows fund could really benefit from this!! I'm in for Jay Levine...
and I got dibs on that simpering bitch Larry Yellen !
A lot of the so-called police on the job should join the media in that "ride-along" in 011 and 007.
How many worthless clout babies and house mice have never even seen a cockroach, let alone constantly responded to bloody in-progress calls? Of those, how many were annointed "merit" bosses?
Your typical exempt is a shameless pussy with knee-pads.
STFU, listen, you're not the only person who every worked in 007 or 011, get over it, it's no big deal, alot of people went there, they were smart enought to leave when they wanted to, or got the chance. Just because you either choose to stay or can't bid out yet is your problem, maybe you like giving waaaaay to much service to people that don't deserve it, most don't. Bloody in-progress calls, hahaha, who cares.....
i also agree the enemy is the enemy they fuck us so fuck them..
"The more shit you have on your gunbelt, the less shit you have in your head"
~ quote from Ret. Sgt. Bill KASINAK 025th District
You fuckin' kids should take his advise. I'm sure "Sgt George" who has 41 years on the job would agree.
You goofs in 025 can't wipe your asses without calling for a sergeant every 20 minutes. If we called for a sergeant more than twice a night when I came on - checkoff was 25 minutes after the hour.
I AGREE, 3RD WATCH IN 025 IS A KINDERGARTEN. AND NO ONE KNOWS WHO KASINAK WAS ANYMORE. I HEARD THAT QUOTE FROM THE HORSES MOUTH.
I really enjoy the "old timers" (who put in 40 years and have been retired for 10) who criticize the "Youngsters" about needing our noses wiped, or about sergeants holding our hands, or how we are afraid, blah, blah,blah!
While I respect your service and your viewpoint. You are way off base here.
I wish I came on 40-50 years ago. I am just like you. I DIDN'T CHANGE, THE JOB CHANGED..THE TIMES CHANGED!
We are so constrained today, our hands are tied. We are barely allowed to do the job today.
I've heard all your wonderful stories of the "old days."
YOU:
You guys could go out and shoot a shoplifter or juvenile in a hot car (fleeing felon) and brag about it later at the gin mill, so everyone would buy you free drinks all night. Than you could drive home drunk, get in an accident, and it would be taken care of by the drunken bosses. You could get free tickets to Bozo circus or the cubs,sox,bulls,bears,or hawks..no problem..Then you could take the family to dinner at a nice restaurant, and balk at the bill telling the owner you'll have him shut down by the city if he doesn't COMP you..then on holidays you go down to fulton/lake st. market and get the turkey or ham for free, then on the way home grab a X-mas tree from the hillbilly selling them out of the vacant lot again for free, after subtle threats!Next you worked 1 day a week security at some university so your kids got free tuition..then you took $$ on traffic stops, and used it to buy a summer place in lake geneva, or michigan city/long beach/st.joseph for nothing that is now worth $500,000-1,000,000. (Same with your shitty northside ranch).
So years later you have memories of all the fun you had seldom doing work, drinking at work, having a pension, cashing in 5000-10,000 hours(stolen,not earned) at retirement for a lump sum usually in the $200,000 to 450,000 range and now have a Net Worth of 1 or 2 million dollars..ALL WITH A FUCKING GED OR H.S. DIPLOMA!
You've done well!
US: (today's officer)
Take shit from the public and get accused of doing all the shit you did because stereotypes die hard!
Get disciplined by ball-less bosses' because lovanda say's we called her "good boy" a bad-word! (no proof)
Get in a legit shooting that is 100% statutorally correct, but still get sued for wrongful death because "SUING" the city is now a revenue stream for DEMOCrats in this city.
Have to watch every step you make to avoid stepping in shit. That's why we call for a Sarge, let them take the heat and make the call to earn that D-3 pay they got meritoriously because (fill in the blank)
I drive a 7 year old car. Every retiree I see get's a new buick or caddy every couple of years.
I Will be lucky to have 2080 hrs to cash in when I retire, that'll buy a nice used car by than.
The 401k hasn't done shit in 10 years. I'll be lucky to get out what I put in it.
The pension and benefits is eroding with every single contract.(But Dineen,Nolan,and Donahue..Got their's!)
I could go on and on..but what's the point. You'd have to walk a mile in our shoes to understand.
signed,
Not yet a KMA club member
I would bet the check on the 16th that MATT TOBIAS set this "media cop" experiment up!! Who else got to open their pie hole on camera for more than 20 seconds???
CHICAGO -- The number of reported cases of salmonella poisoning from the taste of Chicago is growing fast, topping off at 378.
Twelve people have been hospitalized -- including one small child.
The investigation is now focusing on tahini, an ingredient in hummus that was served at a booth from the Pars Cove Persian restaurant.
You goofs in 025 can't wipe your asses without calling for a sergeant every 20 minutes. If we called for a sergeant more than twice a night when I came on - checkoff was 25 minutes after the hour.
7/14/2007 11:57:00 AM
Maybe you need to work in a district that actually moves? Asshat?
Your "401k hasn't done shit in ten years"
And whos fault is that young man?
You and you alone control where it is invested.
If it is confusing to you, get some advice, put down the sports page and your comic books and read the financial pages. Or better yet, pay an investment adviser, it can be money well spent.
Review your account 3/4 times a year, at least, and make changes!
" In da know said...
Have you talked to any reporters who've gone through this thing? Nah, didn't think so.
7/13/2007 02:15:00 AM
Sorry to disagree but Ron Magers and David Navarro have nothing but kudos for us."
Same goes for Deborah Rowe on WLS. She went through this program several years ago and she came out with a whole new respect and appreciation and for police.
Sorry to have to disagree with a poster here, but MAYBE the Sarge was doing the right thing when he stated to an officer who called for a tazer that "FTOs have them now, send an FTO.". MAYBE the FTO was closer to where the tazer was needed than the Sgt. was. I know that if I was in a situation that could be rectified safely with a tazer, I personally wouldn't care WHO showed up with it!!!
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