Marathon Cover Up?
We've often heard that Medical Examiners are among the bottom-of-the-barrel doctors, the ones who couldn't make it dealing with the living, so they move over to where they can do the least amount of damage. After all, it's hard to violate the Hippocratic Oath of doing harm to a dead body.
We've also heard that this is especially true of the Office of the Cook County Medical Examiner, a political position owed to various factions of the Chicago and County Machines. Never was this more obvious when a former M.E. (Donahue we think) declared that a TASER had caused the death of a offender leading to the inevitable "wrongful death" lawsuit. Harder to explain was that the dead offender had a level of methamphetamine over twice the lethal threshold. We never trusted a Cook County M.E. to begin with - this just reinforced the lesson.
Now you have an anonymous M.E. responding to not just one, but TWO cardiologists who think the heat just might have had a little bit to do with the Marathon death:
We've also heard that this is especially true of the Office of the Cook County Medical Examiner, a political position owed to various factions of the Chicago and County Machines. Never was this more obvious when a former M.E. (Donahue we think) declared that a TASER had caused the death of a offender leading to the inevitable "wrongful death" lawsuit. Harder to explain was that the dead offender had a level of methamphetamine over twice the lethal threshold. We never trusted a Cook County M.E. to begin with - this just reinforced the lesson.
Now you have an anonymous M.E. responding to not just one, but TWO cardiologists who think the heat just might have had a little bit to do with the Marathon death:
The doctor who performed an autopsy on the Michigan police officer who died during the Chicago Marathon said Tuesday she's certain heat had nothing do with Chad Schieber's death.
"He didn't have a documented elevated body temperature," said the Cook County medical examiner's office staffer, who asked not to be named. "That's very important when you're going to put 'heat stress' on a death certificate."
The doctor was responding to comments from two Chicago cardiologists who publicly questioned the autopsy results. In a published report Tuesday, the cardiologists said heat must have been a contributing factor in Schieber's death.
Call us naive, but we're going to take the word of a couple of cardiologists over a political hack in the M.E's Office. Call it a hunch.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
22 Comments:
True the M.E. doctors could not make it to keep people alive so now they decide how people died! Thay are like the car mechanic who changes parts but has no clue what went wrong just what he thinks! But then again mayor mumbles appoints them and they are puppets like all the aldermen!
Hate to say....I said so... But I did:
a/2 v/c dick said...
REGARDING THE PASSING OF THE MICHIGAN POLICE OFFICER IN THE MARATHON.
The Cook County Medical Examiner never said the cause of death for that runner was a bad heart valve. If you listen closely, they said he suffered from a bad heart valve. Many doctors have reported that this kind of problem should not cause a person to die even when the heart is beating at a high rate.
As a violent crime dick myself, the ME's office usually tells you that the cause of death is undetermined at this time for a lot of sudden deaths without cause.
I am sure the ME's office was informed that the runner, who is also an outstanding cop in Michigan, had a heart valve condition but was cleared by his doctor (this is reported in both major newspapers). So the ME's come out with the statement that he had a "Bad Heart Valve".
And in saying so, clears many of any liability, including the City of Chicago.
10/08/2007 10:06:00 PM
Why cover it up? 1 dead person out of 35,000??? I could see if there were like maybe 5 people dead, trying to cover it up. You can almost EXPECT one person to die running a marathon in 90 degree weather. What if the death was related to heat? Big deal.
My prayers to the family of the fallen marathon runner.
Based on my experience and opinion, more murders are undetected by the Cook County Medical Examiners Officer than I care to think about. What takes 2 months for a toxicologly report? They must use Stroger Brothers Labs Inc. And those who don;t know. The person who is cutting up the body and removing organs have no medical background. Most are ME employees such as janitors and laborers who apply for the position for better pay. One physicain stands in the middle of the room and supervises the procedures. Imagine that.
In defense of the medical examiners, most of them are pretty decent to work with and they usually deal with what they find unless there is an "iffy" case about the body where "politics" come into play. The medical examiner who has done that in the past was Donahue. In all of the "iffy" cases, he conducted the autopsy himself and determined the ruling.
RE: MITRAL VALVE PROLAPSE (MVP)
Medical research indicates that it is highly unlikely that MVP, a common condition, was the primary cause of the death of the Michigan runner under the circumstances of Sunday's marathon.
First the ME is named by the Cook County President .....Next The ME is appointed to the post FOR LIFE so there is no need to cover anything up....And as far as Education they have MUCH MORE EDUCATION THAN A REGULAR MD. Lets just say they might even have more education than a Chicago Cop (LOADS MORE)
How dare you question the integrity of the Cook County medical examiner. I'm...I mean he is a consummate professional.
You dont think the M.E.s office doesnt "sell" cases to lawyers??The Taser death is just but one example.
Call us naive, but we're going to take the word of a couple of cardiologists over a political hack in the M.E's Office.
It doesn't matter how smart the cardiologists are if they haven't examined the body or seen the medical records.
The person who is cutting up the body and removing organs have no medical background. Most are ME employees such as janitors and laborers who apply for the position for better pay. One physicain stands in the middle of the room and supervises the procedures. Imagine that.
Not true at all, but funny as hell, they are all in the medical profession.
This was a cover up. I called it right away. Heat had to be a factor in the death. I stated to my wife when she read the report and told me about it that the city was probably covering it up. Sounds about right.
Are you guys sure about Donaghue? He was the guy who first noticed the Tylenol killings, and he went head-to-head against the mayor's office over the 700+ people killed in the 1995 heat wave.
Life appointment? You're a moron. Even judges in cook county aren't lifetime appointments.
Oh Bullshit, Donahue wasn't even in Town during the Heat Crisis. He was in Wisconsin for several days and let that "Kid" who is a political hack and has the title Administrator of the Medical Examiners Office handle everything. (the kid is just a political flunky not an MD). The kid was overwhelmed and wanted to close the morgue. Donahue called and said do you think I should come in.
Who runs the morgue you ask? None other than Fred Rice.
The person who is cutting up the body and removing organs have no medical background. Most are ME employees such as janitors and laborers who apply for the position for better pay. One physicain stands in the middle of the room and supervises the procedures. Imagine that.
10/11/2007 03:41:00 AM
Quit telling that lie! Are you trying to say a janitor has just as much skills and knowledge as a surgeon?
The "cutters" down at the CCM DO NOT have any official medical training. They do the rough cut work and the pathologist examines the organs and tissues.
Do yourself a favor, do a Google search, see if you can find any accredited institution which deals in learning to become a M E technician.
I heard they all past the test using the Milton-Bradley game "operation".
with all this talk about marathons and other sporting events, Daley is trying to raise taxes in order to get the olympics here(as we all know) to help the city economy to cover costs.
this got me thinking about that skyway deal
from the CHICAGO BUSINESS NEWS dated october 2004
"neither the mayor or city oficials have said exactly what they will do with that windfall($1.8 BILLION). But some of the money will go into a "rainy day" fund whose interest could be used to support the citys operating budget. Some will be used to pay off about $130 milion in relatively high-cost city commercial debt, and some may be used to pay off long-term debt."
From the Wall Street Journal dated Aug. 2007.
"Chicago Mayor Richard Daley garnered $1.8 billion auctioning the citys skyway to the same partners who purchased Indianas toll road. Hes now trying to sell Midway Airport, which could fetch up to $3 billion."
What happened to the money???
Why is he still raping the citiizens?
Where is the Federal Government?
10/11/2007 10:32:00 PM
Clever.
You know reading this blog really makes me wonder about who has come on this job. Tell me please that people who say shit about the autopsies being done by county workers who are not medical doctors are not police officers. Please tell me that we don't have anybody on this job this stupid carrying a gun. But then again these are the same people who think the world trade center was blown up by the government and the pentagon was hit by a missle. I read some of the shit written here and I pray that these people are not on the job if they are then this job is truly FUCKED!!!!!!
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