Hmmm. What's This?
A top level authority on police attitudes told “The Chicago Daily Observer” yesterday that “there’s a good chance that murders are rising in Chicago because police are demoralized and intensely dissatisfied with conditions at the very top of the department. That doesn’t mean they’re lying down on the enforcement job, but what’s the point of pursuing a rigorous enforcement and deterrence when the department is in the hands of the civil libertarians—and punitive penalties are meted out against officers for doing their jobs effectively?”
He said that Jody Weis’ appointment…an FBI agent who never wore a uniform nor patrolled a beat…signaled a mayoral disapproval of the department that is ruining morale. He contrasted this with the record of New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani who stood by his department and beat off civil libertarians who tried to super-enforce infractions that hobbled the New York police.
A very interesting read nonetheless.
UPDATE: post corrected for spelling
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
191 Comments:
As a somewhat high-ranking member of the Department, I couldn't agree with this article more.
One thing blue shirts must understand, believe it or not, is that we supervisors do not like the way this Department is headed. The mayor is and has been both ungrateful and unsupportive of the Department as a whole. He has shown on many occasions that he will not hesitate to throw any one of us under the proverbial bus, should it be politically expedient to do so.
Please know that the vast majority of us remember what it's like to get into a squad car on a daily basis. We know how it feels to devote yourself to an ungrateful public.
In my time on the job, I've seen far too many good officers undeservedly fired, indicted and sent to prison. I would hate to see any others follow this path due to an overzelous, unforgiving Superintendent. Thus, while I would never support a job action or work slow-down, I cannot in good faith ask officers to be proactive or aggressive in these troubled times.
DONT FORGET RELEASE DEPARTMENT STATS ARE AGAINST THE RULES ALSO!
OR RUNNING A NAME
OR NOT FILLING OUT A CONTACT CARD ON A TRAFFIC STOP.
OR NOT WRITING A CASE REPORT ABOUT SHOTS FIRED.
DRINKING ON THE PUBLIC WAY.
TAKING A DISCOUNT.
SWEARING AT YOUR DUMB ASS NEIGHBOR.
SWATTING A GUY IN A WHEEL CHAIR 4 BEING A PRICK.
WEARING YOUR BLUE TOOTH!!!
NOT QUALIFYING WITH ALL 10 OF YOUR GUNS.
NOT PAYING YOUR WATER BILL OR PARKING TICKETS.
HAVING TINT ON YOUR PIMPED OUT RIDE.
OWNING A BAR.
CALLING IN SICK AND THEN GOING TO GREAT AMERICA.
HANGING OUT WITH YOUR MAFIA BUDDIES FROM BRIDGEPORT.
NOT MAILING YOUR ETHIC FORM.
AND YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT A work slow down.... like the lawer in court sezzzz prove im slowing down.
IF THE DEPARTMENT WANT TO HANG YOU DONT THINK THEY CANT.
I love it "SUPER ENFORCED" J Fed is going to cost this city MILLIONS at the end of the day by unjustly firing coppers.... He thinks like a fed... If a feebie gets caught "lying" (i.e., cannot prove he was telling the truth) they fire him, no questions asked, move on... NO UNION! We can bitch and moan all we want about the FOP but the FOP will be what costs J Fuck his job. This is not a do as I say job... Anyways, the truth is crime is up because the police are on strike. I enjoy my paycheck too much to risk it for a community in which I do not live. The oath means nothing anymore. We are expected to be better than most when it comes to behavior, yet when I park my squad in a tow zone to eat dinner I am expected to follow the same rules as Joe citizen. If I am expected to follow the same rules as Joe citizen I should get the same punishments as Joe citizen. Point being, this job SUCKS!
How true, the media just needs to sit down and have a drink with us police officers to find this out, oh sorry we can't drink!!!!!!!! or talk about the Department!!
Be carefull 35th Street is watching us!!!!!!!!!! yes on this blog,,,fuckers!!!!!!!!! maybe for ideas on how to fix things, NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
can't terminate all of us.
How about this...
I work on a tact team... I dont think Im better than the guys on the watch so please refrain from the comments, hair gel, you too will get tact some day... I just need to vent...
My Sgt is a crusty fuck... He is scared of his own shadow... he is a mistaken merit Sgt that doesnt know the sum of 2 + 2...
He never backs his guys and as a matter of fact plays the side of the crazy Lieutenant over his own guys...
There is an old Greek saying that translates into something like "always for the other guy". And it fits this moron like a tight fitting MGD jacket!
He has been over heard first hand telling other tact/gang Sgts to go home as his guys would cover the radio time after time after time... even when it is his teams Friday he cuts the team that just got back after a weekend. After a detail, another teams Sgt was overheard FIRST HAND AGAIN telling him "its a detail, we can go" and his response... "ugh ugh ugh (inaudible noise) go ahead we can take the radio jobs" UNREAL!!!
He has ZERO communication skills, and even less supervisor skills and in fact dimes out his own guys to make himself look better. He gives conflicting orders on a daily basis, and as a PO you pick one and hope the Alzheimers/dementia remembers the one you picked.
He never rewards good behavior, yet harps on the "bad" (not taking paper jobs cuz the crazy lou's head is spinning) all day long.
Roll call is attended by some who are on time (his team) and many who stroll in whenever they want to (69 team) aka "other".
At the end of the day, after a rude letter by the Lt, compliance by the crusty Sgts team, and blatant ignoring by the other team, the "other" team STILL is gone an hour before we are. AND THAT HAPPENED 4 DAYS IN A ROW THIS WEEK ALONE!
It gets pretty fucking old. And yet, the Sgt continues to want numbers. Well, Ill be god damned if I risk my hefty paycheck for an imbecile like you, O'Crusty one! It is number demands that breed dirty cops! It is number demands that breed civil right violations! It is number demands that are the black eye of this department! So I am officially on a work stoppage, and until the love is either stopped all together, or spread around, you get NOTHING!
And shame on the other Sgts for taking advantage of this guy... It's as bad as picking on the guy in the wheel chair! It really is that bad!
I know gone are the days of good pinch, take the week off, but COME ON! Apparently gone are the days of get a pistol take the rest of the day! (atleast according to this fucking idiot!)
Im know there are bad Sgts out there, but this guy really will get a good PO fired. Not by ill intent like some, but out of sheer ignorance... He thinks "doing away with a CR" means giving the complainant the number to OPS!
Im sure anyone who works under this IDIOT will know exactly who this post is about.
Mandatory retirement is there for a reason, only 6 more furloughs to go!
Anonymous said...
Why are they checking the serial numbers of PO's gas masks? Is trouble coming to town soon? If Obama wins or loses will they riot on westside?
4/23/2008 09:22:00 AM
Shotgun training, too.
The end of the year the does look good.
shortages of food.
$4.75 for a gallon of gas.
Limited police presence = revolution.
The reverands, the City, the civil juries and the administration have called for it over and over. Finally they are getting the police department they want. PLEASE POLICE CAUTIOUSLY. Your public demands it.
You little crybabies should be glad yous have jobs. If you don't like it quit. I've never seen such a big bunch of babies before like these desk bitches crying about having to work the schools.
.....Hmmmm maybe I can call Jody and see if he needs a driver. I'm gonna send him my resume. Ah, but I heard he's got an Expidition. I'll have to include the fact that I drive my cousins trucks....just gotta call cuz in case he wants to verify me hours. Make sure he knows what time I get off....
I wonder if big ears and a hairpiece is a plus?.......
Did they say who the top level authority was?
Who's got the scoop on the Cheryl Burton Beatdown??(ABC7 Jessie Jackass supporter) What the hell happened there?
Man Goes Crazy In Loop Punching People, Channel 7 Anchor Cheryl Burton Is Injured
A man randomly attacked at least four people, including ABC 7 news anchor Cheryl Burton, while they walked down the street in the Loop Wednesday evening, Chicago police said.
The man in his late 20s punched the people, three of whom were in their 70s, as he ran down Washington Street near Dearborn Street, said Police Officer David Banks.
Police, with the help of witnesses and a security guard, tracked down the suspect and took him into custody. He may be sent to a mental health facility, Banks said.
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Anybody have the scoop on the offender? Race/Age and Criminal Background?
Off topic:
Well TRU has done it again. They were in a restaurant in my district for just over 2 hours. I am not kidding you. The place is on my beat and went by it several times. Good to hear there's no crime in this city for this "elite" squad to go out and find.
Start at 6, get on street at 7-7:30, eat from 7:45-10, get an anov, then leave early at midnight. Pretty sweet schedule.
yes, i miss locking these jagoffs up and making a lot of court time and overtime.. BUT>>>>>> it's not worth it. the dept will hang you out to dry for the slightest misconception of wrongdoing or racial beef. also why deal with the ASA's who also hang u out to dry if you dont have to. remember: 1st and 16th, answer your calls,, back each other up and that's it!!!!
The only thing I find interesting about this read is that the chairman of the editorial board, Thomas F. Roeser, fails to identify his (one) source, calling him (or her) a "top level authority on police attitudes." What the heck does that mean? Good grief, the author could be quoting Fat Phil or Michael Jordan for that matter. If the source is a P.O., Roeser could have just said so while protecting his anonymity. Even if the P.O. refused that scenario, Roeser lost the opportunity for anyone to take him seriously when he pulled out that "top-level authority" phrase. As it is, the piece sounds like the kind of unsubstantiated trash that Michael Sneed writes, the kind of stuff that emanates from her opinionated sources. My guess is that the source is a disgruntled mid-level member of the command staff who is saddled with a modicum of smarts and originality. This piece has no credibility. There is no corroboration, nothing to make us believe the source is an expert about anything. Get a grip, SCC. You missed this one. This piece of journalism was 8th-grade garbage, even though all the P.O's who agree with it will be checking in to sing it's praises.
12 HOUR SHIFTS AND NO TIME DUE ON WEEKENDS?
THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT SUPT. JODY WEIS MAY USE THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE IN OUR CONTRACT TO CALL FOR 12 HR. SHIFTS AND NO TIME DUE ON WEEKENDS TILL FURTHER NOTICE.
The recent spike in murders and shootings in the black inner city areas will allow the black community members as well as the store front preachers to have the ammo they were waiting for to attack the selection of a white male for the top spot in CPD. Watch, I predict an outcry about the violence and demands for more police. Since we are limited to the number of actual patrol officers we have, the only way to increase the numbers of officers on the street is to have the officers we have work longer hours. This is just a guess on my part but odds are it will happen. So much for spending time at the summer out-of-state cottage this summer! But the good news is let the overtime roll!
off topic: why is it that war protesters, activists and derelicts from all walks can get a permit and march on Michigan ave, but we have st jude behind soldier field. WTF. what a shame this city has become. and jody wants you to "stay aggressive" LOL.
Tell the vice unit to go shove their polack sausage lt up his won arrogant buttocks. ahole.
Heard 4 TRU cars spent their entire tour in one small restaurant just to prove a point that they could do anything they want and are not supervised. Any truth?
AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!
i aint getting thrown in front of the bus for jody fucking weis
No freedom of speech either.
wow ,,,awesome
No Sh*t
old retired guy
Guys, when the fallout from this hits it aint Jfed, da mare or anybody like that who is going to take the hit. Its us. Its already starting.
Was listening to NPR yesterday and there was a Depaul prof on the prog 848 as a guest. He was basically blaming us and telling utter and complete falsehoods. Dig...
http://www.wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=20796
Whos gunna get the blame? Who always does? We are expendable and scapegoats. They arent going to be kissing our asses to end this. They are going to look to make us take the fall.
Some will figure it out but those voices will be drowned out by the same old refrain of "its the police's fault". Watch your and your partners back. Back each other up. Wait for us to take the blame for all this. You know its coming.
5 dead yesterday and many more to come. I love this. Thank you sh*tbird joe.
I can already see the 1,000 yard stare in J-Fed's eyes. When you lay down in bed, ask yourself, was it really worth going after Cozzi after he was already punished? Do you think that helped kill morale around here?
New G.O. 08-05
District Commanders will ensure that:
1. They tell their Officers to be aggressive on a daily basis.
2. They throw their Officers under the bus for being aggressive.
Jodie, please define exactly what you mean when you tell your Officers to be "aggressive."
Some Officers may interpret 'aggressive' to mean something you don't mean.
In all fairness to the Officers:
Tell us exactly what you expect an aggressive Officer to do.
That is all.
Its to late for me. I wont do anything but answer my calls. Unless Mayor Daley steps down, I wont do a damn thing.
Maybe we should rename Chicago "BAHDDAD".The current violence could be attributed to a long simmering feud between the "SHEETHYPES" and the "SUED-ME'S".Whenever you have a slaughter like yesterday it could be an uptick in ethnic clensing towards the minority "TURDS".That way no one could be held resposible .
The article was excellent!!!!! Thank You SCC for the link. The more interesting thing was the comments below. It is very clear from the comments that there is no reason to do any proactive police work.
The citizens in this country watch to mutch TV. They think you don't have to break any eggs to get an omlette. Citizens do not understand the difference between getting gangbangers off the corner or just breaking up groups of shitheads on the sidewalk to just walking up to a random citizen and pimpslapping them and taking their wallet.
Until the citizens wake up and I'm talking about the silent majority, this city has no chance. The citizens need to stand up for the police. The pimps (politicians) never will.
WE NEED WILLIAM KUSHNER (CHIEF OF BERWYN PD.) BACK AS OUR SUPT. ALSO WAS RELIGION AND NATIONALITY IS JFED, PS DOES HE BELIEVE IN CHRIST?
The sooner word gets back to little mayors dick daley that the police are sitting back and laughing as his city makes the national headlines each night, the sooner the contract will be settled. Just like when the teachers whisper strike to the weasel, their 1 week expired contract is signed sealed and delivered. And no, we dont enforce city residence on teachers ...
Her prescription for violence in the black community...More Love and a University of Chicago study...let me know how thats working for ya Mary..........
And by the way she still found a way to work in the perpetual black victim viewpoint with reference to the enslavement of blacks..the jim crow laws..be that as it may.. as we all know ....All we need is LOVE........
Idiot bosses, and No contract....not hard to figure out what's going on.
Poor Cheryl Burton took a whoopin on State Street, keep letting the nut jobs roam the loop. We need to bring in the scoops!
New cougar video:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a6868566a5
The real reason for the death toll was the sharp increase in the price of flammin hot cheese puffs and grape soda.
Telling it like it is is not a job action.
No...it's because there is a G.D. War. Duhhhh! Try another dissertation for your Ph.D.
Well TRU has done it again. They were in a restaurant in my district for just over 2 hours.
I am not a TRU member, but you need to be a man and tell them to their face. You like to post a daily blog bitching about TRU and where they eat. You are a little bitch, I bet you are to much of a p$ssy to stop gangbangers, that is why you need to use this blog.
Do you realize that if I wanted to screw over cops, I would come to this site and read these postings and follow up on them. We have enough people working against us, now we have our own against us. Thanks to all you little rat bitches.
I noticed the same thing. J-Fed had the look of someone that was lost and had no clue of what to do. Get rid of him. He is not one of us and does not know what it is like to police in Chicago. Nothing good will come of this for the police or for the citizens of Chicago, the ones we are sworn to protect.
the police are not he reason for increased murders.
it is accepted behavior.
it is only when the police shoot someone, or a cougar, that there is a public outcry.
You can never get a witness to a murder, but if the police shoot someone, everyone saw it and then lie about what they saw.
What about the judges. What about the juries? Love jury trials. Its great to see jury members who refuse to listen to the witnesses or evidence. Find them all not guilty. What deters offenders from commiting murder. It is not the police. The police are out there, arresting these thugs, getting hurt and puting their lives on the line. It is not the police. Maybe a little less hatered preached by ministers on sunday will have some positive changes. that would be a start. Be safe
Brian Murphy, he gone. Another Scapegoat.
I see that curfews and gun laws are having a big impact on the violence.
The real reason for the death toll was the sharp increase in the price of flammin hot cheese puffs and grape soda.
..............................Dont forget the sales tax increase on Kools and Newport 100's
As shavedlongdong suggested we won't have weekends off until after Halloween.
I SEE DEAD PEOPLE.
Olympics ? Thats silly just silly.
My Sgt is a crusty fuck... He is scared of his own shadow... he is a mistaken merit Sgt that doesnt know the sum of 2 + 2...
He never backs his guys and as a matter of fact plays the side of the crazy Lieutenant over his own guys...
There is an old Greek saying that translates into something like "always for the other guy". And it fits this moron like a tight fitting MGD jacket!
I KNOW THIS SGT! HE IS IN 007 AND IS A F'ING JAG OFF! THAT MGD JACKET IS HIS STAPLE!
Im sure anyone who works under this IDIOT will know exactly who this post is about.
yep... DZ Englewood ranger
The article implies we are not doing our jobs because we are "dissatisfied." WRONG! We aren't doing our jobs because WE CAN'T!
No chases. No radios. No working computers. No cars. No leaders. No reliable state's attorneys. No contract. No FOP. No judges.
One cop does something wrong and it's played a thousand and one times in the media. Shoot a wild animal and you're a murderer. Ask if someone's illegal and you're suspended. Arrest a minority and you're racist. And a citizen population whose theme song is: "I want you to enforce the law; just don't enforce it on me."
Prove Im slowing down!
PROACTIVE is for zits on your face, not policework under this monarchy.
12 HOUR SHIFTS AND NO TIME DUE ON WEEKENDS?
THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT SUPT. JODY WEIS MAY USE THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE IN OUR CONTRACT TO CALL FOR 12 HR. SHIFTS AND NO TIME DUE ON WEEKENDS TILL FURTHER NOTICE.
that would cause a spike in medical time. won't work
How about the midget and his roid buddy attend St Jude together.
How about this...
My Sgt is a crusty fuck... He is scared of his own shadow... he is a mistaken merit Sgt that doesnt know the sum of 2 + 2...
4/24/2008 12:28:00 AM
If he and things are that fucking bad, then why stay on the team? Don't be a dummy, LEAVE! or is it that you like to tell people you're on the Tact Team?
There is a direct link between the consumption of grape pop in the ghetto and street violence. Now pay me $50,000 for my study.
Anonymous said...
Off topic:
Well TRU has done it again. They were in a restaurant in my district for just over 2 hours. I am not kidding you. The place is on my beat and went by it several times. Good to hear there's no crime in this city for this "elite" squad to go out and find.
Start at 6, get on street at 7-7:30, eat from 7:45-10, get an anov, then leave early at midnight. Pretty sweet schedule.
4/24/2008 01:36:00 AM
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Sounds like you too were sitting on your ass for two hours ? I guess you're a do-nothing also ?
"nothing to make us believe the source is an expert about anything"
You are obviously not the police and are fishing....anyone who is the police knows exactly what this guy is talking about......
if we drove SUV's and had brighter flashlights i know that the crime would be down.
That is about the dumbest idea. What are they accusing us of, shooting these gangbangers ourselves? What a bunch of fucking idiots.
Joe Police said at wbez.com:
This so-called expert is an IDIOT. Leaving the gangs alone is his answer. Maybe is someone would destabilize the leadership of DePaul University, these liberals wouldn't have such a slanted view towards preserving society. Are there ulterior motives in his request for police to leave the poor gang members alone? I noticed his voice is awfully deep and a little scratchy, could that be an indication of prolonged marijuana use? I can't wait for the police response to this one. Maybe you'd get a better indication of how the police feel by visiting www.secondcitycop.blogspot.com. I agree with the earlier statement: This will be a bloody summer.
My morale is way up...You can wear my uniform boss...give this guy a chance...
Soon enough jesse jr. will be mayor.Than shitcago will become Detroit.America soon to be third world country in the name of diversity. Detriots current mayor has done a great job with that city.
oh brother
Im know there are bad Sgts out there, but this guy really will get a good PO fired. Not by ill intent like some, but out of sheer ignorance... He thinks "doing away with a CR" means giving the complainant the number to OPS!
Im sure anyone who works under this IDIOT will know exactly who this post is about.
Mandatory retirement is there for a reason, only 6 more furloughs to go!
4/24/2008 12:28:00 AM
Dude, Shut the fuck up!!! If you don't like it, you can change teams or work the watch or work in another district. Putting all that dirty laundry on this blog is not a good idea. Don't ruin it for the rest of us. Again, Shut the fuck up.
4/24/2008 12:28:00 AM
GO BACK TO THE WATCH... why anyone works tact is beyone me. You are there by choice. if it sucks, leave
Off topic:
Well TRU has done it again. They were in a restaurant in my district for just over 2 hours. I am not kidding you. The place is on my beat and went by it several times. Good to hear there's no crime in this city for this "elite" squad to go out and find.
Start at 6, get on street at 7-7:30, eat from 7:45-10, get an anov, then leave early at midnight. Pretty sweet schedule.
4/24/2008 01:36:00 AM
Sucks doesn't it, if you can't beat em join em
Heard 4 TRU cars spent their entire tour in one small restaurant just to prove a point that they could do anything they want and are not supervised. Any truth?
4/24/2008 02:31:00 AM
Its true we have a running bet among all members of the unit to see who can sit in one spot all nite without getting caught, we get double-bonus points if we sit in the same seat without getting up to urinate!
stop bitchin about other coppers getting away with shit you're not! ie: tru
Plus GPS and mics/cameras in high crime ghetto districts (No more workn POPO)... You (the public) demanded this police department, now watch the city burn.
Its ok.i got a event number last nite for the dock
Shavedlongthang made a good point. It will be a long summer for all of us but some nice OT checks.
Re:
Anonymous said...
Ask, why are officers more afraid of being sued then being shot.
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you are kidding right?
4/24/2008 02:24:00 AM
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I have been sued and I have been shot. I can assure you being shot hurt a hell of a lot more than being sued.
To 12:28 am., Mr. Tact person,
We all know how tact works, and no, everyone will not get a chance to get on the "elite" tact team, so if your Sgt. sucks that bad, there is plenty of room for you on a watch riding a beat car, like everyone else in patrol.
He's not gonna change, and apparently somebody likes what he is doing and is keeping him there .
Maybe you need a new district or a change of scenery. Tact guys always bitch the most. Try working 8 hours a day buddy-boy. You guys are always taking a duck to leave early.
Sorry, no pity here!
Im not going to ST JUde this year,I know its about the fallen coppers..is it.or is it about the bosses that get to park next to the bandstand, While we have to walk and take a hour to get out.and J-FED..I will never shake his hand and i will never call him boss.and i will never attend while he is the head of Chicago POlice DEPT
Off topic:
Well TRU has done it again. They were in a restaurant in my district for just over 2 hours. I am not kidding you. The place is on my beat and went by it several times. Good to hear there's no crime in this city for this "elite" squad to go out and find.
Start at 6, get on street at 7-7:30, eat from 7:45-10, get an anov, then leave early at midnight. Pretty sweet schedule.
Again, I'm not in TRU...but if you think its a sweet gig, then bid there. Otherwise quit driving in circles and checking up on other officers. Thats for their Sergeant to worry about, not you! THATS THE PROBLEM. EVERYONE IS WORRIED WHAT SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING. You dont like your Unit, bid to a new one. Otherwise... SHUT UP!
Mope-rah....is still a clueless, apologist dope.
J-Fed is sh#tting bricks.
Little Dick Daley is still a sweaty, sqealing troll.
The beat goes on.
J-Fed has come up with another bright idea on how to fight the huge increase in crime....
He plans on indicting more police officers!
I know this comment is trival, but this site gives me a format to "Rant". The Superintendant should know, that the wearing of the uniform is offensive to many of us.
When I see him in that CPD Leather Jacket,its like fingernails on a blackboard.
The CPD Leather was from a different era. One he was never part of.
Does he what a CPD Leather, so he can display it like a trophy, when he leaves the dept?
Those Leather Jackets meant a lot to the Men and Women who wore them, in a different era, and a different time.
His Leather Jacket Does Not Fit, And Never Will.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-oped0424chapmanapr24,0,5976650.column
My Sgt is a crusty fuck... He is scared of his own shadow... he is a mistaken merit Sgt that doesnt know the sum of 2 + 2...
if this is the same guy he worked as a PO in 22 before gatting his "promotion" and moving to englewood... he was an asshole as a PO and apparently is still an asshole...
TAKEN FROM THE CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOL WEBSITE
Newly hired teachers of the CPS for the 2007 - 2008 school year and who are certified/endorsed in subject areas deemed special needs may apply for a waiver to the residency policy, provided they are hired to teach in a special needs area of education. Such individuals must complete and submit applications for exemptions to the residency policy within 31 calendar days of their dates of hire. If granted, exemptions will be valid for three (3) academic years after the employee's date of hire and may be renewed for subsequent three (3) year periods, provided that the employees continue to be employed in a special needs position.
The current areas of education assessed as special needs are:
Special Education Teachers
Mathematics Teachers
Science Teachers
Librarians
Guidance Counselors
School Nurses
Reading Teachers
Bilingual Teachers
Physical Education Teachers
School Psychologists
Speech Pathologists
ROTC
Sign Language Interpreters
Occupational & Physical Therapists
Health Service Nurses
World Language (Chinese, Arabic, Russian, Latin, Farsi)
Important Points:
IS CATCHING BAD GUYS A SPECIAL NEED AREA? IS RISKING YOUR LIFE A SPECIAL NEED AREA? HOW ABOUT CARRYING A FIREARM TO DEFEND LIVES, SPECIAL NEED? i THINK WE GOT LIBRARAIANS TRUMPED.GUESS It MUST BE NICE TO BE A CITY EMPLOYEE AND LIVE WHERE EVER YOU PLEASE. ONCE THEY ALLOW RESIDENCE OUT OF THE CITY FOR SOME, HOW CAN THEY DENY THE REST, SOUNDS LIKE SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT. OBVIOUSLY THE CITY HAS SET A PRECEDENT THAT YOU CAN BE A VALUBALE,RESPONSIBLE, PUNCTUAL, EMPLOYEE LIVING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
Supt. Weis is scheduled to appear on WLS am 890 just after 5pm.
Regarding
Anonymous said...
Who's got the scoop on the Cheryl Burton Beatdown??(ABC7 Jessie Jackass supporter) What the hell happened there?
4/24/2008 01:20:00 AM
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As hot as she is I don't care who she supports. She is one hell of a great looking woman.
"Whos gunna get the blame? Who always does? We are expendable and scapegoats. They arent going to be kissing our asses to end this. They are going to look to make us take the fall."
It sounds like you've got a whopping two years on this job and you're still idealistic about fighting crime. The vast majority of the people on this job just don't give a damn anymore. You can thank the media, the reverends and the liberal elite like Obama for forcing their unrealistic, idealistic pie-in-the-sky expectations on what used to be the BEST police department in the country.
We're not robots, but that's what everybody wants us to be.... unless, of course, THEY are the one's who get caught breaking the law. But when you think of the thousands of service calls we answer on a daily basis, we still do a damned good job.
Much of the problem is that we've become a nation of excuses for bad behavior. I remember when a rapist would get 30 to 40 years in prison for a single rape. Now, they get probation. Even the average murderer serves only 9 years in prison before getting out on parole. Unbelievable, but it's true.
So what's our motivation???
The 1st and the 16th, that's about all we got left.
The only way things could even begin to improve is if we get some backing from our bosses and city hall. But I doubt that will happen because politicians are too afraid of losing some of the black vote, or the gay vote, or some other specific group of voters.
And remember, shit rolls downhill. That's why the bosses don't back us anymore. They're afraid of getting fired and sued, too. This entire mess stems from an overzealous media that's been desperate to sell newspapers and TV commercial time. Demonizing the police helped to keep them afloat for awhile by selling newspapers with sensationalized headlines.
I'm sure ALL of us would be happy to be the aggressive, hard-working coppers we really are, but who can afford to risk their job, their home and jail time if they make the slightest mistake?
But now that things have settled down with our "scandals" the newspapers are laying people off and profits are in the toilet. Has anybody noticed how much the Slum Times has shrunk in size? It's like a magazine now.
But they got the police department they wanted. No pro-active policing means no CR#'s, no accusations of violationing people's rights and no civil lawsuits.
Unfortunately, it also means the people of Chicago are less safe because the gun-toting criminals that the elitist liberals and the media sought to protect the rights of are now having a field day.
what has happened to this department like others has been a work in motion for quite a few many years now. the blood of these dead people is on the hands of all who have taken the teeth out of the police department and have given the streets to the shit heads.
people like the reverends who get their certification from a computer class and father pfleiger types and the media are all somewhat responsible for the deaths of people murdered this past week, month and year.
you dont want an agressive police force that will go out and deter crime you have created it. you monday morning q back us and are quick to fire , indict, and re indict while shit heads can make all the non sense up and we as police have to prove ourselves innocent.
its a shame what has happened over the last several years and whats even worse unless the mayor and the union show the public and the media that they stand behind their police department i do not see it improving. just more and more blood shed. mark my words this summer is going to be one of the worst this city has seen in quite sometime.
seat belt missions at scenes where shitbags are murdered wont change a thing. give the streets back to the police who in turn give it back to our good citizens and our kids because if you dont and dont back us its just going to get worse.
shame on you media and all the rest of the idiots who created this mess, the blood is running wet and fluidly on your hands.
roe conn sucks... the start off his show was painful to listen to.micheal savage 560 am rules.
CEASEFIRE The violence should end almost immediately. Ceasefire is taking to the street. Assorted thugs on their payroll (Your tax money) will tell the gangbanging rats to stop shooting. That should do it.
Next case!
Off topic:
Well TRU has done it again. They were in a restaurant in my district for just over 2 hours. I am not kidding you. The place is on my beat and went by it several times. Good to hear there's no crime in this city for this "elite" squad to go out and find.
Start at 6, get on street at 7-7:30, eat from 7:45-10, get an anov, then leave early at midnight. Pretty sweet schedule.
Who cares already you pussy, try patrolling your beat and quit worrying about them.....
One comment, from the article you quoted and linked, which I think is worth posting here:
"Seven says:
When is the last time we saw an article or news story about an attorney, a CPA, a truck driver who went out after work and got into a bar fight or got a DUI.
Those stories have no teeth & they don't sell newspapers.
But if a cop does any of those things - front page news!
I understand police officers are supposed to be held to a higher standard and that's alright but enough is enough with the bashing they are taking in the media.
Police-men and police-women are just that - men and women. They make mistakes like everybody else. They don't deserve any special care but why is it that if a cop gets in trouble the state's attorney's office goes all out for a conviction and jail time but if a regular guy does the same thing - it is likely thrown out or he gets probation.
I've studied law enough to know there is one ILCS (Illinois Compiled Stautes) book. There isn't one for the police, one for the gangbangers and one for the offender who commits a crime against a victim worse than him. These are all examples of how the Cook County courts filter these cases.
Do you know that in a gang related shooting arrest the first thing the states attorney asks for is a copy of the VICTIM"S criminal history?
Why does that matter?
The double standards in the Cook County courts have to stop. If these gang members knew they would be going to jail if caught, they would think twice. The truth is though, they don't care because they know the system is a joke. God forbid though if a police officer makes a mistake in the performance of his duties - HANG HIM!
For anyone reading this who isn't the police:
Try working eight hours having to make split second decisions without any help. And if you're wrong, it's probably more serious than a paper jam in the copier.
People may be killed or seriously injured as a result of their decisions - right or wrong.
Remember that, when the most stressful part of your 8 hour day is finding where to eat lunch.
Police Officers need the support of the departments they work for and they need the support of the people they protect. Without both of those things in place they cannot be effective and they will not do more than is minimally required of them.
This will be a long, hot and deadly summer if things don't change soon. But I've lived in Chicago my whole life and I know it's only going to get worse.
Maybe when people start taking responsibility for their own actions and the actions of their children and stop blaming everyone else - then we'll see some real change. I could go on for hours but what's the point..........
April 24, 2008 at 12:16 a.m."
Im not saying I support a work slow down but I go to my calls give people a RD# because it makes them happy and then I relocate somewhere take my time write a nice little report, and I gas up the car just about everyday make sure I get my lunch and at least one personel in and usually the day is over but no arrests no tickets no cr's no lawsuits no getting fired is just how it is.
let the city burn for all I care. Im sick of waiting two years for a contract sick of BS event #'s and sick of everything being the police's fault. 1st and 16th thats it im at roll call but Im the 2008 version of a ghost employee.
4/24/2008 07:41:00 AM
Minorities from certain areas would be offended, you have the word DAD in the name.
Just a thought, why don't we that live in 22 and 16 and 08 start an un-official neighborhood watch of off duty coppers. Just to show the criminal element we are not giving up our hoods too!!!!!! Enter at your own risk...
This still ain't nothing for those of us who've been around a while...This is no crime wave....
What the f---k happened? Us old street coppers passed the TORCH to you, and because you got a new BOSS you let the Torch go out.
I've never seen such self pity as I have on these blogs. It's the Mayors fault,the sup's fault, the Commanders fault and every one elses fault but mine, attitude.
Yep, I'm only going to handle calls,write a mover or a parker and F--k the citizens who depend on you.
I know its not all you street coppers, the few rotten apples like rotten attitudes can spoil the whole lot.
I used to be proud to say I was a CPD member. And now,I'm just glad to be retired and away from what looks like childish bickering.
All I hear at roll call is "more activity, down on arrests"... As much as I want to make arrests I thought that a crime had to be committed and probable cause to make the arrest. But the last two days the radio was slow except for a few paper jobs. The question here is, do I make BS arrests just to please the retarded W/C or do I stay true to the profession and only make real arrests?
Oh F@#*%k it! I anit doing shit but answer calls. I'm not losing my job! The idiot W/C will be the same ass that will throw me under the bus. Plus I just bought a kick ass 2007 Corvette!
Let the savages kill the savages!!! I GOTS MINE!!!
NO RAISE, no problem = DVD player + redbox!
Job action? No way that is an offense they could fire us for! No action thats the secret! We do not have to write tickets,stop people on the street and possibly violate civil rights and get sued/fired oh no! I for one will respond to my jobs do all the paper, back every copper up, get car fueled,washed, take my lunch and 2 personals but that is it! No more taking chances so the idiot mayor can have us fired and then indicted like the 2 from 008! Great job indict the working coppers for nothing but a mistake! hey mayor your kid was front page of todays times again, guess the crooks are you and your family right mayor freido?
Dick Daley doesn't realize that he doesn't control everyone...You little shit when it comes to personal power you have none. As a man you fail..There is not a woman on the police department who couldn't kick you ass you little rich kid sissy..God I hate politics!!!!!!!!A real mayor would be out in the streets. Anyone remember the Mayor of Boston, several years ago, disarming some guy or something similar?....Your little corrupt ass belongs in a cell with Big Bubba..C'mer Bitch...
Hey J-fed, be a man and get that little fucker....
Hey its working! Daley called for a private meeting with political leaders, ASA, reverends, comunity leaders. Me thinks he is probably asking or giving the heads up that he will be asking the po po to take off the white gloves and become that BAD ASS POLICE AGAIN. IF he does dont fall for it!!!!
Dont do shit just answer your calls until we get a decent contract or like one postser said Daley Resigns.
Did anyone else see this? I found it on the Chicago Defender of all places
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To halt the rash from repeating, Supt. Jody Weis said more bike, foot
and squad car patrols will hit the streets, in addition to increased
gang, tactical and SWAT teams because “we have just too many gangs,
too many guns and too many drugs on the street.”
"
http://www.chicagodefender.com/view.php?I=716
gang and tac going south???
Guys, when the fallout from this hits it aint Jfed, da mare or anybody like that who is going to take the hit. Its us. Its already starting.
Was listening to NPR yesterday and there was a Depaul prof on the prog 848 as a guest. He was basically blaming us and telling utter and complete falsehoods. Dig...
http://www.wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=20796
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Thanks for the link. There's nothing worse than an so called intellect who thinks they have everything figured out. His solution? Stop going after the people who are dealing drugs and murdering people!!! It's actually the fault of white middle-class people!!!
Anonymous said...
Off topic:
Well TRU has done it again. They were in a restaurant in my district for just over 2 hours. I am not kidding you. The place is on my beat and went by it several times. Good to hear there's no crime in this city for this "elite" squad to go out and find.
Start at 6, get on street at 7-7:30, eat from 7:45-10, get an anov, then leave early at midnight. Pretty sweet schedule.
4/24/2008 01:36:00 AM
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They work 8 for 8 every night, try again.
If you don't like them, eat somewhere else.
Keep up the division in this department. City Hall loves it!
THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT SUPT. JODY WEIS MAY USE THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE IN OUR CONTRACT TO CALL FOR 12 HR. SHIFTS AND NO TIME DUE ON WEEKENDS TILL FURTHER NOTICE.
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Am I the only one who didn't see this in the contract??
AT LEAST SOMEONE IN THE MEDIA HAD THE BALLS TO PRINT THE TRUTH!!!!!!!
The citizens of the Shitty can blame their wonderful (puke!) mayor,their fantastic (barf!) alderdorks and their criminal storefront reverends (fart!).Im not taking credit for this mess.
HAVE A NICE DAY!
What!?! Rudy Guiliani personally "beat off" civil libertarians?? Did I read that right? Count me in as a civil libertarian. However, I want the "beat off" to be administered by New York's sexy senator. Hell yeah!
P.S. Hey SCC, "nonetheless" is one word. Keep it real. I love ya.
You little crybabies should be glad yous have jobs. If you don't like it quit.
**Fuck Off
"Chicago's Top Cop to Officers. ‘I'll stand with you.’
Any good copper knows to watch his or her back, especially more from the administration bending over for the reverends than concerns about any bull crap from the perps.
Under this regime, there is no backing of the street cops, no mater what JFed says.
Just answer the calls, and keep the blinders on.
The job is not worth going to prison over.
RE: Supt. Weis appearance on WLS AM 890 (Roe Conn)
In the past, I've politely phoned in on controversial CPD subjects only to be disconnected by Roe Conn's "gatekeeper".
PREDICTION: When Weis comes on in less than an hour, expect all "softball" questions from callers.
I also attempted to arrange a meet with Supt. Weis a couple of weeks ago. Sgt. Wm. Bradley, Office of Supt., said that I should mail Supt. Weis a letter.
Supt. Weis refused to personally return my phone call.
Time check: Thursday, 4/24 at 4:21 PM
Right on target and the truth hurts the bosses more than it does me at the bottom ranks!
I'm down to the minimum numbers game and that's it!
No more proactive Policing for me and a bunch of guys I know!
Just like in sports, when the team sucks you can't replace all of the players you replace the coaches and managers!
I see a new trend in the future soon! HHMMM!!
"Who's got the scoop on the Cheryl Burton Beatdown??(ABC7"
LOL!
There should be more beatdowns of the local media by their friends the bums!!
Hell, probably some of those bums now are former local media mopes that were fired due to bad ratings.
If I am expected to follow the same rules as Joe citizen I should get the same punishments as Joe citizen. Point being, this job SUCKS!
4/24/2008 12:02:00 AM
I should be allowed to LIVE where ever I want like Joe Citizen!
The thing about the feds is that they do it by the book. They will pull every dirty trick in the book, but it's by the book.
The other thing about the feds is that they are great at getting headlines, but they suck at controlling crime. The huge majority of law enforcement in this country is done by state and municipal officers, not feds.
Phonying up reports? It will get you indicted. Drop cases? Not long for this world. And so on. . .
To protect yourselves, your jobs and your families, do it by the book now.
Yes, the crime rate will spike. But that's not your fault. The City has let you cut corners because it saves them a lot of money. Doing it by the book is very expensive. Let the blame fall where it belongs, on the City, and taxpayers (that's me.)
If you want effective crime control by the book, you have to pay for it. I do, and I want to. We need more resources devoted to law enforcement. More officers, better equipment, better working conditions and, yes, better pay and benefits for the people on the front lines.
If we want a law enforcement agency as clean as FBI but as effective as CPD, we have to pay up.
Protect yourselves. Do it by the book. Let us pick up the tab. We've been doing on the cheap for too long, at your expense. The public gets a free ride on your commitment to public service. Game over. Make us pay for what you give us. You're worth it. `
Murders and all other crimes going crazy and what are the bosses in 14 looking for? Making sure everything is right with uniforms. The 3 kids missing and mom murdered and not even a mention in roll (they went to the Yates School 1800 Richmond). New DC Lucifer, sending around some new paper, not Dept. material looking to document all parkers, movers, curfew, absentees officers did that day. J-Fraud really messed up when he picked this goof. I am sure the MLD's, Cobras and Latin Kings will be impressed if you only have 2 pocket and not 4 on your vest or that your handcuff are not exposed.
http://www.jibjab.com/sendables/view/CWeiTi5MMIxQbFS3a6iWj6ie
Off topic:
Well TRU has done it again. They were in a restaurant in my district for just over 2 hours. I am not kidding you. The place is on my beat and went by it several times. Good to hear there's no crime in this city for this "elite" squad to go out and find.
Start at 6, get on street at 7-7:30, eat from 7:45-10, get an anov, then leave early at midnight. Pretty sweet schedule.
4/24/2008 01:36:00 AM
Hey troll you forgot bang your old lady 3:45- 5:30 just after you leave, just enough time to go to roll call. the puddle on your side of the bed is no accident.
OFF TOPIC, NEXT SGT CLASS OUT IN JUNE. NO DET. TRAINING! 50
IF YOU DO MORE THAN ANSWER YOUR CALLS AND BACK UP YOUR FELLOW COPPERS YOU ARE NUTS. ITS ALL ABOUT THE 1ST AND THE 16TH! THE CAMERAS ON THE CARS ARE WHY THE MURDER RATE IS SOARING. COPPERS ARE AFRAID TO LOSE THEIR JOBS.
Hey 1228 AM---Get a psyhcicatrist to listen to your drivel....I never heard of getting a week off for a good pinch...you my friend are not the police...you are fish eyed fool.
I got thru to Roe Conn for J-Fed.
I told the guy my question was about no morale. He hung up on me.
hater said...
DONT FORGET RELEASE DEPARTMENT STATS ARE AGAINST THE RULES ALSO!
OR RUNNING A NAME
OR NOT FILLING OUT A CONTACT CARD ON A TRAFFIC STOP.
OR NOT WRITING A CASE REPORT ABOUT SHOTS FIRED.
DRINKING ON THE PUBLIC WAY.
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If you make a stop on an individual and he or she doent want to give you his her name for contact card information that is their right. Thus filling out a contact card in most cases is up to the person being questioned, where is it a law that they must be interviewed and answer??
The only thing I find interesting about this read is that the chairman of the editorial board, Thomas F. Roeser, fails to identify his (one) source, calling him (or her) a "top level authority on police attitudes." What the heck does that mean? Good grief, the author could be quoting Fat Phil or Michael Jordan for that matter. If the source is a P.O., Roeser could have just said so while protecting his anonymity. Even if the P.O. refused that scenario, Roeser lost the opportunity for anyone to take him seriously when he pulled out that "top-level authority" phrase. As it is, the piece sounds like the kind of unsubstantiated trash that Michael Sneed writes, the kind of stuff that emanates from her opinionated sources. My guess is that the source is a disgruntled mid-level member of the command staff who is saddled with a modicum of smarts and originality. This piece has no credibility. There is no corroboration, nothing to make us believe the source is an expert about anything. Get a grip, SCC. You missed this one. This piece of journalism was 8th-grade garbage, even though all the P.O's who agree with it will be checking in to sing it's praises.
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If you know anything about Tom Roesser you know that his integrity is without question. Mr. Roesser has been a highly respected columnist in this town for a long time.
No one where I work are doing more than required by the 50 minute to two hour old Oec calls we get on the radio. No stops no interviews no using your police instincts and stopping known gangmembers nothing!!!
Its the CPD the stripped and sued non-backed police. I actually cringe having to drive by these thugs without stopping them, but I dont want to violate the right of a gangbanger in his own city, the city he works so hard to keep nice.
The long post about the crusty old Tact Sgt is about MF from 023. Nice guy but soft as shit. The person who posted this must be one of the 011 retards who transferred in. Im not defending the sgt but you guys are equally as clueless.
The average person, especially the yuppies, have no idea how bad this city is going to get. I do not give a fuck anymore. Let them hang out and sell their drugs and gang bang. We can't search them and we can't "violate their civil rights". This is a career but it is just a freaking job. It is not worth your blood, your money or your freedom. Weiss is a fucking BEYOTCH!!!! I hear that we could all get the same gun. The FBI aka Fucking Bunch of Idiots, is having a sale of their old weapons. Never fired and only droppped once. Some do still have footprints permeantly etched into the finish. Thats from all the times the guns were dropped and the agents trambled them. Weis looks like "Eugene the Jeep" from "Popeye". Daley is "Bluto",
To Sgt. Dickinmyesoffagus :Wow, I bet eating Lemonheads is causing a certain to worry about when his pacemaker is going to malfunction, keep chewing that shit and crying that you don't belong in the school unit because you are unhealthy, just think how the bosses are trying to Fuck you and forcing you to leave, you did it to yourself, trying to scam the medical and got caught, they got you big time and you have to talk shit about others on this site because you know that I will beat your little Bitch ass into the ground, because you got NO BALLS BD. Come get some because when I have enough of your bullshit I am going to wreck your ass and its coming soon, Don't take this to a personal level again motherfucker because I will tell all about your life just like the Bitch that you are, Remember the HBT Incident? I do I was there. You jealous little Fuck ,And I never worked on company time and PS. you must be bored becvause every time you use CU you talk shit on this website, exciting life huh B.D ?
a question: could the environment in the CPD develop into a situation similar to that in Cincinnati some years ago (i.e., somewhat of a laydown/slowdown)?...
If you make a stop on an individual and he or she doent want to give you his her name for contact card information that is their right. Thus filling out a contact card in most cases is up to the person being questioned, where is it a law that they must be interviewed and answer??
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Doesn't this stupid state provide ANY laws for you to do your jobs? FL has the Terry stop as well as the Baker Act. I swear, I feel as if I moved back in time to the
1800's by moving home. Jesus.
off topic:
Rhode Island governor signs a bill that allows local law enforcement to enforce federal immigration laws.
If only we had a mayor or governor who had balls to do that.....those 3 kids wouldn't have been kidnapped and mamma wouldn't have been killed in Chicago, she would have been safe in her home country of Mexico where she belonged in the first place. I'm sure boyfriend/play hubby is on his way there now with the kids.
Was listening to NPR yesterday and there was a Depaul prof on the prog 848 as a guest. He was basically blaming us and telling utter and complete falsehoods. Dig...
http://www.wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=20796
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That is the biggest bunch on nonsense you could ever hope to hear.
Greg Scott, PhD from University of CA, an expert on Chicago street gangs. Part of the DePaul-free-every-criminal strategy to prevent crime. Goes right along with Mary Mitchell's "need love" philosophy.
Total nonsense.
Meanwhile, keep sending this garbage to the morgue, so they can pull the bullets out of their heads.
I love failed policies.
I have been sued and I have been shot. I can assure you being shot hurt a hell of a lot more than being sued.
4/24/2008 12:32:00 PM
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I just sat in my car the other day for 8 hours and neither of those things happened.
Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...
Ask, why are officers more afraid of being sued then being shot.
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you are kidding right?
4/24/2008 02:24:00 AM
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I have been sued and I have been shot. I can assure you being shot hurt a hell of a lot more than being sued.
4/24/2008 12:32:00 PM
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I have been sued and shot at. Thank God he missed. I would rather be sued then shot at.
Phonying up reports? It will get you indicted. Drop cases? Not long for this world. And so on. . .
Guess what???? SHITHEADS DO DROP DOPE UPON SEEING AN OFFICER EXIT HIS VEHICLE SO STFU!!!!!
OH MY GOD!! Someone stuck a cougar head on the jib jab video
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^5
I listened to WLS with Roe Conn. I was hoping Weis the very best.
No longer. J-Fed is a poor liar. He praises "merit" promotions as legit, denies there is a morale problem and says that he wouldn't go in the door behind intelligent police as if stupidity was a plus.
We need a vote of NO CONFIDENCE in Daley and J-Fed. This guy is poison. He even says that Daley gives him a free hand. He really must think we're stupid.
He's just another treacherous, elitest political stooge. Run this asshole out of town on a rail.
Daley should call for a summit with the FOP to get CPD contract settled. Take care of the meat and potatoes of this city first!
Go to: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-shakmanlist-htmlframe,0,2278169.htmlstory. J-Fed should know the great bossed who got the mone: Cmdr Michael J Mealer(30,000), Capt Richard Aquinaga(20,000), Lt Michael F Ryan(12,500), ret. Lt(demoted Capt) George Cornish(7190.)Cmdr "beefer" former IAD, Capt ("I just took the girl to Indiana to shop at a motel"), Lt(I just wanted to be loved, but my head is so big) and "I beat them again" George. Supt. J-Fed, at least you don't have George on your team anymore. Remember: be a snitch, take care of little girls, indulge in the drink, and join in the lawsuits. Who says it is getting bad?
I used to be proud to say I was a CPD member. And now,I'm just glad to be retired and away from what looks like childish bickering.
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We are just a little wiser or a little more pissed off I guess. Now go change your Depends, head over to the greasy spoon, and enjoy your free C.T.A. ride.
Anyone know where or how to listne to the Roe Conn interview with JFed?
Happy 66th Birthday, Mister Mayor!
How about a nice cyanide cupcake, you rat cocksucker!
THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT SUPT. JODY WEIS MAY USE THE EMERGENCY CLAUSE IN OUR CONTRACT TO CALL FOR 12 HR. SHIFTS AND NO TIME DUE ON WEEKENDS TILL FURTHER NOTICE.
this just means longer lunches.
Anonymous said...
Guys, when the fallout from this hits it aint Jfed, da mare or anybody like that who is going to take the hit. Its us. Its already starting.
Was listening to NPR yesterday and there was a Depaul prof on the prog 848 as a guest. He was basically blaming us and telling utter and complete falsehoods. Dig...
http://www.wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=20796
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Thanks for the link. There's nothing worse than an so called intellect who thinks they have everything figured out. His solution? Stop going after the people who are dealing drugs and murdering people!!! It's actually the fault of white middle-class people!!!
4/24/2008 03:54:00 PM
I like the guy aboves comment, second that, HA HA HA, LOL.....
What the f---k happened? Us old street coppers passed the TORCH to you, and because you got a new BOSS you let the Torch go out.
I've never seen such self pity as I have on these blogs. It's the Mayors fault,the sup's fault, the Commanders fault and every one elses fault but mine, attitude.
Yep, I'm only going to handle calls,write a mover or a parker and F--k the citizens who depend on you.
I know its not all you street coppers, the few rotten apples like rotten attitudes can spoil the whole lot.
I used to be proud to say I was a CPD member. And now,I'm just glad to be retired and away from what looks like childish bickering
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Have you been paying attention??? Do you watch the news??? We would love to do real police work! We can't anymore!!! We can't carry that "torch" because NOBODY will back us up anymore. Pay attention and lose the self rightious "in my day attitude". You sound like another monday morning quarter back dumbass.
Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...
Ask, why are officers more afraid of being sued then being shot.
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you are kidding right?
4/24/2008 02:24:00 AM
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I have been sued and I have been shot. I can assure you being shot hurt a hell of a lot more than being sued.
4/24/2008 12:32:00 PM
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I have been sued and shot at. Thank God he missed. I would rather be sued then shot at.
4/24/2008 09:12:00 PM
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God Bless you are alright.
The point of the post is this.
I know at any moment, stop or call the possible gunfight can erupt.
What I do dislike that a criminal families will gain money for having a shithead son who tried to kill me. Or how the city pays criminal families and persons off. You shouldn't be able to sue the police.
Anonymous said...
Just a thought, why don't we that live in 22 and 16 and 08 start an un-official neighborhood watch of off duty coppers. Just to show the criminal element we are not giving up our hoods too!!!!!! Enter at your own risk...
4/24/2008 03:31:00 PM.......Yeah,can't wait till you and some other genius get arrested for playing police off duty.
Make sure you guys have had plenty to drink before starting your off duty shift.That should make things more interesting.
anonymous said...
"nothing to make us believe the source is an expert about anything"
You are obviously not the police and are fishing....anyone who is the police knows exactly what this guy is talking about......
4/24/2008 11:04:00 AM
So, you agree with this guy's opinion and that makes him a "top level authority?" Please. On this site journalists are routinely lambasted for just this type of slanted reporting based on one person's opinion. I guess it's good stuff if you agree with the piece and bad stuff if you don't. Typical close-minded cop mentality -- that reporters are okay as long as they only write good stuff about us (yes, I am CPD). And I never said that I disagreed with source's opinion, just that I took serious exception to the fact that the author appears blatantly dishonest about the identity of his source.
oh where to begin...tact guy..yeah i just about had the same situation..mine was a paper jumper as well so that she could get 50 honorables to get a dc to make meritorious LT. i left and went back to the watch and couldn't be happier. i'm not doing the numbers game on top of the other bs for any boss. i do my job, i still lock people up but knowing i dont HAVE to.
lucifer..yeah..had to deal with that one too...i got nailed for not having pleats in my pants. really. really? youre worried about pleats? this was a few years ago.
cant imagine what hes on now.
yep we have cameras and mics now..and at $15,000 per car, i laughed my ass off when mine didnt work and they had to ordered a whole new system. theres another $15,000 that could be used for....oh where to begin?
and yeah i use this place to vent and as many different opinions there are...i agree with most of the postings. i'm worried for no legit reason about doing my job, about arresting people, about pulling people over..not because i might be injured or the unmentionable but for fear of losing my paycheck, my career, my life, just for maybe swearing at the guy bc he just spent the last 10 min mfing me. i love being the police and am losing that feeling quickly for so many reasons.
i'm going to dc in may...
Oh Roid Boy, I think the honeymoon is over.
Haven't had ANY In-Service training of any sort other than TARA, in about 8 or 9 yrs. now.
Investigative Services...
To Sgt. Dickinmyesoffagus :Wow, I bet eating Lemonheads is causing a certain to worry about when his pacemaker is going to malfunction, keep chewing that shit and crying that you don't belong in the school unit because you are unhealthy, just think how the bosses are trying to Fuck you and forcing you to leave, you did it to yourself, trying to scam the medical and got caught, they got you big time and you have to talk shit about others on this site because you know that I will beat your little Bitch ass into the ground, because you got NO BALLS BD. Come get some because when I have enough of your bullshit I am going to wreck your ass and its coming soon, Don't take this to a personal level again motherfucker because I will tell all about your life just like the Bitch that you are, Remember the HBT Incident? I do I was there. You jealous little Fuck ,And I never worked on company time and PS. you must be bored becvause every time you use CU you talk shit on this website, exciting life huh B.D ?
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This is too funny. I hope everyone sees what a merit hack you really are. You are a sergeant of police but you can't spell and certainly don't have a clue what a comma is for. Another wonderful product of CPS I'm sure. Oh, by the way it's not BD. Guess again while you tell the troops about some back-in-the-day story. Make sure you tell them it was all of your felony false plate arrests that got you those stripes and that it had nothing to do with "DRIVING MISS DAISY" you little punk trick.
Of all the bitching I har on this blog, nothing but bitching actually, I can say that it is not our fault. I know you're saying, "No shit." Not for the reasons stated here so far. It is the criminal justice system as a wholein Cook County and across most of the nation.
I think the one and only reason violence is so high in Chicago is because of our State's Attorney's Office. Felony Review is a joke. That is the reason for this level of violence.
When the average, non piece of shit, is the victim of a crime, they are astounded to learn that we are not vigilantly pursuing every avenue to investigate and charge the person(s) responsible. We do. We know that the State's Attorney's offive is nohing but a sham to keep people out of the system. THAT'S IT. A prosecutor's office is supposed to be the State of Illinois, County of Cook's, arm of criminal prosecution. It is everything but. I can't even say they are trying to win a case before it gets to trial anymore. They are simply trying not to let any more cases be brought into the system. It is all about the money. They don't want to have to pay to prosecute anyone. That is why the violence is so bad. There ae a lot of dogs on this department and a lot of officers bitching saying they are not doing shit anymore, but I see officers making impressive arrests everyday. We have averaged almost 35 guns recovered per day. That is not everyone laying down on the job. The problem is, noone calls anything in anymore and minimizes what they have because they kow they can't get it approved. When I came on we called in all hot cars and would generally get charges. now, officers don't even call in cars with a peeled column. They WILL NOT call in a steal with the keys no matter what the circumstances. They don't try for the robbery, they say fuck having to wait 9 hours and find 37 witnesses, charge him with theft and a battery. It's not even the detectives doing that, it's the patrolman. Detectives are the same way though, I know. But it is for the same reason. Same amount of paperwork for a charge or not (add a 101.) Blame this whole violence problem squarely where it belongs, the Cook County State's Attorney's Office.
If you know anything about Tom Roesser you know that his integrity is without question. Mr. Roesser has been a highly respected columnist in this town for a long time.
4/24/2008 07:38:00
His integrity may be beyond reproach but this unsophisticated and slanted piece is highly questionable.
As beat officers, the best thing to do is patrol your beat and answer your calls for service. While on your beat if you on view a disturbance then go handle it. But by all means, don't even think about becoming a
pro-active police officer.
Definitely right about not putting your ass on the line! I got t-boned going to an officer needs help call and ended up jacked around by the medical section and doctors, only to find out that I needed my shoulder fixed and walked around for 6 more months waiting for an MRI to find out that I had herniated discs, spinal cord compression and swelling in my cord. Could have been left a quad. Medical time ran out and haven't been paid since January and board has put off my hearing since February. It's April and I haven't seen a dime and no end in sight. Board sends you to another doctor so they can release you and then defer your hearing again for the 75% hearing, which could be another 3-4 months. I'm not Donald Trump! No end in sight. Word of advice.....don't get hurt doing this job because they'll do anything not to pay you. They screw you over, drag their feet, burn up your time and then leave you without a check and tell you that you can get another job while you wait. Doing what? I'd like to tell those morons to see who'll hire them when they lose 10% of movement in their shoulder and 25% in their neck and can't lift more than 18 lbs. You can't even work at Kohl's with out being able to lift 50 lbs. TRU apparently has the right idea!
What the f---k happened? Us old street coppers passed the TORCH to you, and because you got a new BOSS you let the Torch go out.
I've never seen such self pity as I have on these blogs. It's the Mayors fault,the sup's fault, the Commanders fault and every one elses fault but mine, attitude.
Yep, I'm only going to handle calls,write a mover or a parker and F--k the citizens who depend on you.
I know its not all you street coppers, the few rotten apples like rotten attitudes can spoil the whole lot.
I used to be proud to say I was a CPD member. And now,I'm just glad to be retired and away from what looks like childish bickering.
4/24/2008 03:33:00 PM
it has changed alot since youve been on trust me.
Happy 66th Birthday, Mister Mayor!
How about a nice cyanide cupcake, you rat cocksucker!
4/24/2008 10:14:00 PM
How about a mandatory retirement clause for Mayor Bastard Bumbles? If it is good enough for us, it's good enough for him!
Or a mandatory retirement imposed as a result of a prosecution by U.S. Attorney Fitzgerald.
If all things really do eventually become right and just, can you say Oxnard or bust, Mr. Mayor?
In the years I worked in 010 and 011 I never observed a table set for dinner. Pad locks and chains on the fridge...yep saw that many times. Did observe many fine citizens walking down the street eating or drinking out of a brown paper bag. That led my partners and I to a working title for a Doctorial Disertation. That title was "The Migratory Feeding Patterns of the West-Side Citizen".
TARA training???
Are you kidding me? Remember the only reason Terrorist training was adopted by the CPD was because it was a part of a larger grant that gave the CPD about 8 or 9 million and OEMC about 800K. OEMC gets a cut right off the top. That goes for any grant that the CFD or CPD get.
As a CPD blue shirt or white shirt for that matter we will be crime used scene preservation and traffic control- vehicular and pedestrian. Exepmts above the rank of commander will be at OEMC.
Thats the bottom line. move the people and cars, and hope no additional events happen.
Amen to 4/24/2008 06:19:00 PM
I got through too. I was going to ask how Jody could make the claim all is on the legit when just two weeks aga he promoted Lillie Crump-Hales to Commander and did'nt dump Doty. I was also going to ask if "clout" was out how come Shields (MIchelle Obama's cousing) Adrianne Stanley (John Stroger's niece) or Terrence WIlliams (son of retired Chief Sherwood - have to admit the old man was a decent guy - the apple fell far from the tree) are allowed to remain in place. How come all of this is obvious to even the clueless among us and not smacking J-Fed between the eyes. Teacher - Teacher - I know. Daley and his cronies - the answer to most of the problems facing this Department.
Good Night!
I should be allowed to LIVE where ever I want like Joe Citizen!
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Then go get a Joe Citizen job. You signed up for it-deal with it!
"...Tru works 8 for 8 every night..."
I hear they ate for 8 every night.
4/24/2008 11:37:00 PM
Oh great, a virtual sissy-fight! Scratch his eyes out you manly man. These our supervisors folks...we're so fucked!
There are more cops on that Shakman list than have been posted who got money from the City:
Lynn Kuehn
Richard Atzlan
Joseph Giorango
James Bonk
Marsha Feldman
That's all I recognize with a quick going over of the list.
There are also 4 people with the last name Bertucci,
I would guess all are Streets and San but that's just a guess.
That shows the importance of keeping good records, you might be able to cash in later.
City misfires
on gun violence
Steve Chapman
April 24, 2008
When a rash of gun murders takes place, it makes sense for the police to do one of two things: renew tactics that have been effective in the past at curbing homicides, or embrace ideas that have not been tried before. But those options don't appeal to Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis. What he proposes instead is a crackdown on assault weapons.
I'm tempted to say this is the moral equivalent of a placebo—a sugar pill that is irrelevant to the malady at hand. But that would be unfair. Placebos, after all, sometimes have a positive effect. Assault weapons bans, not so much.
If there are too many guns in Chicago, it's not because of any statutory oversight. The city has long outlawed the sale and possession of handguns. It also forbids assault weapons. If prohibition were the answer, no one would be asking the question.
Excerpt
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/
I took serious exception to the fact that the author appears blatantly dishonest about the identity of his source.
All you want to know is who said it...and if you are the "police"(which I doubt)...its so you can jam "the source"
I know gone are the days of good pinch, take the week off, but COME ON! Apparently gone are the days of get a pistol take the rest of the day! (atleast according to this fucking idiot!)
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Those days have been gone. Go check out another district and see if the gang/tact guys are taken care of... even the gun and go (get a gun and the rest of the tour is spent 'doing the paper') days are gone.
The bosses don't give a shit about the PO's anymore and just like you're not going to risk your job for a boss, he's not going to do the same by giving you a duck any longer.
This is NOT a defense of an idiot sergeant mind you. A leader is supposed to lead and be expected to communicate with his team. Conflicting marching orders are inexcusable as are the do as I say, not as I do attitude. Then you have the sergeants that expect you to read their mind instead of having the leadership skills to delegate responsibility.
We're all adults here and until we have supervisors that start realizing that, we're never going to get back to the old way: where criminals actually feared and respected the police for the proactive and aggressive policework that made the city a much safer place than it is today. If you think about it, it really wasnt that long ago.
No such thing as too many guns.Well im off to by some more 5.45x39 for my Krebs Ak,real nice.
Can one still apply for the Shakman money?
anonymous said...
I took serious exception to the fact that the author appears blatantly dishonest about the identity of his source.
All you want to know is who said it...and if you are the "police"(which I doubt)...its so you can jam "the source"
4/25/2008 08:24:00 AM
You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension.
The long post about the crusty old Tact Sgt is about MF from 023. Nice guy but soft as shit. The person who posted this must be one of the 011 retards who transferred in. Im not defending the sgt but you guys are equally as clueless.
4/24/2008 08:19:00 PM
No way!!! The post had to be about the most useless piece of crap sgt. I have ever known. armando galan from 019....He my friends is truely clueless.
in response to 4/24/2008 01:36:00 AM
seriously...get a life...is that all you jealous fucks do is follow TRU around and worry about what TRU is doing. WHO CARES ALREADY!!!!!! makes you wonder why you have so much time on your hands to watch them for 2 hours anyways...if thats even the case...we all know you want us disbanded, so you're going to say anything you can to make us look bad. i am obviously in TRU and i bust my ass everyday and i dont bring in an ANOV either!!! i will admit, we are not SOS, and this city needs SOS back, but shut the fuck up already...quit your whining and go back to your "beat" car.
Murders and all other crimes going crazy and what are the bosses in 14 looking for? Making sure everything is right with uniforms. The 3 kids missing and mom murdered and not even a mention in roll (they went to the Yates School 1800 Richmond). New DC Lucifer, sending around some new paper, not Dept. material looking to document all parkers, movers, curfew, absentees officers did that day. J-Fraud really messed up when he picked this goof. I am sure the MLD's, Cobras and Latin Kings will be impressed if you only have 2 pocket and not 4 on your vest or that your handcuff are not exposed.
4/24/2008 04:49:00 PM
Hey New Commander of 014. say good by to numbers, JAGBALLS!
Mandatory retirement is there for a reason, only 6 more furloughs to go!
4/24/2008 12:28:00 AM
Wow... You are an idiot and have absolutely no balls. Leave the team. I am sure he won't have a problem letting you go. Also have a clue what you want to air out on a public forum. I hope your Sgt. figures out who it was and sends your ass to the watch ( and I am not knocking beat guys because I am one)...
I could care less if these officers parked their cars for one day, two days, or forever. This city does not pay them enough let alone understaffed, underpaid, no equipment, no laws to assist them, etc. They deserve to do very little if no police work.
In fact, I may invite the officers on my beat into my home for an entire shift and we'll plug in some movies, order pizza, etc that way they can relax and in the meantime, these thugs can kill each other and we'll see how high the numbers can rise then.
- CHICAGO CITIZEN
Two of my Sgt's advised me to slow down with the arrests..These arrests came from jobs I was given,wasnt looking for them..the advice was the new bosses will jam you and strip you on a bullshit beef..I gave it thoughtful consideration and I am gonna do my job..They will jam ya anyway.Fuck em!
Hope you know a trade moron.
Im sure anyone who works under this IDIOT will know exactly who this post is about.
Mandatory retirement is there for a reason, only 6 more furloughs to go!
4/24/2008 12:28:00 AM
You should be ashamed of yourself. I know the Sgt. that you are talking about. If you can name me one person who has worked for him that he jammed up I will find you and give you my next paycheck. And yes everyone knows who you are "Wilbur Johnston from 011." He is not a Sgt. who lets his guys duck, Oh well. he had a rather senior team until recently and they dealt with him because they knew who he really was. From what I understand people are trying to get back to his team. This says something about who he is. Like others have stated in response to your STUPID ASS comment, leave the team. Actually please do your team a favor and leave now.
Did everybody really miss that George Kozell got $60,000?
Lucio Martinez and his brother in laws Tony Navarrete and his brother are all merit promotions. When Martinez was a w/c in 11 if you were working an early car and asked for two hours on the end, he would switch you to a late car or a rapid so you would have to use four or more hours. Also so stupid, he did not know what felony review was and had to have a p.o. explain it to him. Merit all the way for him.
How can you possibly be correct about Lucio Martinez??
After listening to J-Fed, and the statement he made that he promoted those who took care of their people. I nearly vomited typing that.
I must have be a victim of discrimination since I wasnt a LAPA member. He never did anything to help me or any 1or 2out. When I was in 011 Lucio used that F/2 Desk sgt to do all his work. What a moody B@#&% she was.
We live in a nation of Laws and Police Officers are expected to follow those laws. And I will, every last fucking one of them, and, the Dept. rules too.
Sorry about the murder rate. But theres nothing I can do about it. That carLoad of shitbags with the dice hanging off the mirror? Well... no probably cause to stop.
Others might view me as a mutt, but in reality? Im just following the rules. Besides, who doesnt love a mutt?
And the smartest mutts are always looking over their shoulders for bigger mutts who are sizing them up for the high hard one.
Bow Wow.
"In the years I worked in 010 and 011 I never observed a table set for dinner. Pad locks and chains on the fridge...yep saw that many times. Did observe many fine citizens walking down the street eating or drinking out of a brown paper bag. That led my partners and I to a working title for a Doctorial Disertation. That title was "The Migratory Feeding Patterns of the West-Side Citizen".
OBVIOUSLY, the good people in those districts never needed your services, which is why you rarely, if ever, were invited into their homes. I work in 018. I've been inside many million dollar condos and townhouses with tilework on the floor that is worth more than my Lexus. I've seen some of the same disfunctional people you described in your post. Because they have money, they hide it better than most. It's all out there in front of you, in every neighborhood, if you're willing to look. I expect people with no parents who care and no eomployment prospects to be a certain way. What really gets me is when I see people who have EVERY ADVANTAGE at their fingertips, all the right schools, the connections, just piss it away.
That I will never understand, and it's a common enough sight down here in the gold coast.
"I used to be proud to say I was a CPD member. And now,I'm just glad to be retired and away from what looks like childish bickering."
Truer words were never spoken. A whole new breed of cop today, and it ain't pretty.
You have to admit that P.O.'s don't do much on the street. Police no longer enforce traffic laws and the crime clearance rate is abysmal and still dropping. Way too much attitude and admit it - money, too. Society can't continue to hire good people as police & teachers and then assign them to inner-city areas where normal is abnormal. It changes people and not for the better.
It's funny seeing how police attempt to spell words. Good thing that Chgo police never write reports - or people might think you're dumb. And, well-paid, too.
Anonymous said...
Lucio Martinez and his brother in laws Tony Navarrete and his brother are all merit promotions. When Martinez was a w/c in 11 if you were working an early car and asked for two hours on the end, he would switch you to a late car or a rapid so you would have to use four or more hours. Also so stupid, he did not know what felony review was and had to have a p.o. explain it to him. Merit all the way for him.
4/25/2008 11:28:00 PM
Isn't his brother Marty been driving the city treasuers? Form santos,to rice and the new gal D=3 pay and she needs a fleet of drivers like Burke? WTF? Why is it the new city clerk drives himself and got rid of all the high paid servants? hey Jody maybe you could trim the details and put these officers on the streets where we need them! you stated on roe conns show you ahd "total autonomy" from the mayor to do anything with CPD, how about standing up to the political bullshitters and remove details, they have millions and could get civilian servants to cart their asses around and pick up their cleaning! Call the new clerk he will tell you how he drives his own car,gets his own fuel, and services the car without police lackeys with 2 days on 3 days off schedules plus all the overtime!
HollyWood Beach you have to forgive our shitty writin we uns are CPS graduits!!
The people other than me posting on this site, probably have under tens years on, no make that under 7 years on and have no idea what it's really like. Things do change and sometimes we have to change with them. Just have "Common Courtesy" towards eachother. And we can make this a bttter place. We shouldn't air out our dirty laundry for all to see. And again, if it's that bad. LEAVE. And don't worry about someone or another team ducking. It's been said on here time after time. Tact guys chose to be there and you didn't. And to sit down and write some Bullshit about a Sgt. who actually has taken care of you, and you're just pissed cuase a few times he couldn't. Go fuck yourselves and leave. It's your choice.
You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension.
4/25/2008 12:14:00 PM
And you obviously have a even bigger problem.........
Would all you non-police complaining about US complaining just stop. This blog is FOR complaining. Not your complaining, just our complaining. So go complain about us complaining on our complaint blog on your own complaint blog. Jeez what a bunch of whiny, complaining, complainers. Thank god we don't have to work with any of you whiners is all I can say.
"Would all you non-police complaining about US complaining just stop. This blog is FOR complaining. Not your complaining, just our complaining. So go complain about us complaining on our complaint blog on your own complaint blog. Jeez what a bunch of whiny, complaining, complainers. Thank god we don't have to work with any of you whiners is all I can say.
4/29/2008 01:53:00 AM"
Are you implying that those complaining about those complaining about those complaining are complaining too much?
Or is your complaint more about those who complain having no basis for their complaints, seeing as they are not members of the group complaining about those complaining about those complaining?
Is that the group you're complaining about?
The group that's complaining about the group they are not members of?
Or the group that's complaining about the group they are not a member of complaining about the complaints of those who are members of the group complaining about the complaints of those who complain?
Is that the substance of your complaint?
And have you complained to those to whom you complain to?
And did they complain to you about your complaining to them about those who complain about those who complain, whether members of the group who are not members of the group who complain about the complaints of those who complain or not?
Just wondering......
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