Mitchell Column
We were paging through the Sun Times archives today. As readers know, we refuse to pay for that paper and have encouraged everyone we know to cancel subscriptions. And we ran across this Mary Mitchell column:
Truth be told, the war going on in our streets is a black and brown war.
Most whites can escape the war.
We were bracing ourselves for another of her infamous screeds, but it never materialized. She quoted studies, statistics and other info that paints a pretty bleak picture. And that picture is damn bleak for minorities:
- According to the latest statistics put out by the U.S. Justice Department in 2005, blacks were six times more likely than whites to be victims of a homicide. And African Americans were more than seven times more likely to be perpetrators of the violence.
Cold hard facts. And since they're pointed out by a black woman, knee jerk reactionaries can't cry "racism!" as they are wont to do. We will take issue with her call for more gun laws. Gun laws only affect the law abiding, seeing as how criminals disregard the laws constantly. We don't know why liberals insist on legislating more victims, but Mary is what she is, so no big deal. Here's what we have a problem with though - her solution:
Love is not a dirty four-letter word. [...]
But we need love even more.
Love wasn't the answer back in the 60's or 70's and we doubt it's the answer now. Case in point:
- A South Side teenage mother who authorities said no longer wanted a baby because she couldn't go to parties was held on $600,000 bond Wednesday on charges that she drowned her 5-month-old daughter in a bathtub earlier this month.
- She later told authorities that she drowned the child because she no longer wanted to be a mother, officials said.
- Rodgers told police "she didn't want to be a mom anymore because she couldn't go to parties if she had to take care of the baby,"
- Planey said that Rodgers placed the baby in a full bathtub on the afternoon of April 4. When the child slid under the water, Rodgers sat and watched for several minutes
Read that last sentence again:
- When the child slid under the water, Rodgers sat and watched for several minutes
What woman, what mother, what human being could just place a child in a tub, watch her slide under the water and sit idly by as their own flesh and blood drowned? We've been harsh on Mitchell in the past, deservedly so for some of her more insane rantings. She seems to have turned some sort of corner in her writing as of late which is a hopeful sign. But this delving into "love" as a solution doesn't even being to address this problem of mothers drowning their children. How can you even pretend there is anything worth saving in a person that far gone?
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
43 Comments:
Hey! Remember when some people were bitching because there were not enough blacks on TV?
WELL TURN ON THE FREAKING NEWS.
SCC, there is one little quibble still with the Mitchell quote.
Hispanic victimization and offense rates were somewhere between the rates for whites and the rates for blacks 20, 30 and 40 years ago.
A few years ago the numbers for hispanics settled to the same numbers for whites nationally. Maybe not in every little corner of Chicago, but nationally.
So her attempt in that article to say or in any way imply that its a black/brown versus white disparity is at least a little suspect today. It might have been true decades ago, but not any time in the last few years.
And this is not intended to offend any particular person, white, black, hispanic or other. Its rather to say that inasmuch as she advocates for the black community, she should probably avoid besmirching the hispanic community by implying that they exhibit the same violence characteristics (as a community, not as any particular individuals).
Please watch as Mary Mitchell would not like this! (and that means we all would!)
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
Most whites can escape the war.
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Whites cannot escape it. Whites pay for it every day. They cannot escape it when they are robbed or beat up by browns and blacks. They pay for the affrimative action that dumbs down this country. Whites pay an unproportional percentage of the dollar cost of this "war". Whites pay for the schools blacks and browns don't want to go to. Whites pay for Cook Cnty Hopital to sew up the soldiers so they can get back in the fight. Tell the familes of these two victims that they escaped:
THIS WAS A HATE CRIME
"What woman, what mother, what human being could just place a child in a tub, watch her slide under the water and sit idly by as their own flesh and blood drowned?"
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Teacher! Teacher! I know!!
uhhh, you would never print MY response SCC.
kill her. one state is giving the death to a guy who raped an 8 year old. way to go. there is no rehabilitation for some people.
The chickens have come to roost mary.
What woman, what mother, what human being could just place a child in a tub, watch her slide under the water and sit idly by as their own flesh and blood drowned?
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Probably the same kind who would strap them into their car seats and drive her vehicle into a lake. Or maybe the same kind who would actually drown them by hand in the tub, one by one.
Some people just have short memories... and agendas.
Are we finally starting to call an apple an apple?
If people don't want children but want sex, the "state" should make them sterile! Give them a $5000.00 dollar bonus for having the surgery. Case in point if those children are unloved and unwanted they turn to the streets and become societies problem. What is the cost to house a career burglar in prison each year $35,000.00; Incarceration for three years totals $105,000.00. I'd rather pay the $5000.00 up front then rather the back end.
F-CK YOU MARY AND F-CKYOU JFED, BUT I STILL LOVE EDISON PARK.
When you allow a helpless child to get covered with water and drown over the course of several exasperating minutes, you forfeit your right to live on this planet. If there is a poster child for capital punishment, it's this so-called "mom." Personally, I am pro capital punishment. (At least we have something in common with the Chinese.) But if some piece of shit like this doesnt't get the death penalty, then what's the point of having it?
Probably the same kind who would strap them into their car seats and drive her vehicle into a lake. Or maybe the same kind who would actually drown them by hand in the tub, one by one.
Some people just have short memories... and agendas.
You mean Andrea Yates and Susan Smith? Not only should they be killed, it should be in public and in as painful and an agonizing manner as possible. These sub human monsters need to be executed as quickly as they can prepare the death chambers.
Trust us asshat - our memory is way longer than yours and our agenda is out there for everyone to see - we aren't attempting to pass it off as anything that it isn't.
Unlike you.
As a parent that absolutely sickens me. What are the priorities for these young minority parents; Parties?? It is disgusting and sick. i would love to see the statistics on child abuse by race.
The black community will continue to have problems until they start to take responsibility for their own actions. Everything isn't the fault of the white man. Many blacks need to stay home and start raising their children and taking responsibility for them and their actions, rather than being out partying, fornicating or being on the "down low." How about encouraging a work ethic, rather than the mantra of I am owed, which is encouraged by so much of the current Black leadership. Every other ethnic group comes to this country, works hard and prospers. For those of you who dispute this, just look at the Vietnamese, and other East Asians who have come to this country in the last 30 years. The first generation had nothing, couldn't speak English, but were willing to work hard. Now their children are attending Harvard and Yale, and receiving perfect scores on their college enterence exams and doing it without quotas and preferential treatment. Blacks can do it too, but their must be a massive change of attitude in the community. I won't hold my breath.
Re:Some people just have short memories... and agendas.
Those 2 women were insane. They should be killed. THIS bathtub killer is just a member of a community that doesn't value human life. That's what the difference is.
"Truth be told, the war going on in our streets is a black and brown war."
Finally the truth.
I'm going to get the ball rolling here. I love you guys, pass it on!
OK, expecting and accepting the anger this will provoke: when you kill millions of babies a year by abortion, when harvard professors advocate a 3 day waiting period before a baby is considered human, what you get are people who put a baby into a bathtub and calmly watch it drown.
Now maybe steinberg can get with the program and admit that his liberal beliefs just dont work in a big city american ghetto. Steinberg, whoes been picking on the Police for years,someone who grew up having everything handed to him,(unless he served in the Israeli Army,which I doubt),has no respect for Men
that carry guns and have to go into these neighborhoods and enforce the rule of law. Its easy to hate a group of Men and Women, because your fat,whore college professors taught you to. Try moving into one of these combat zones, and mingle with the populace. Its easy to pass judgement on other men doing their jobs from your suburban fortress. Does Northlake have section8......
Is in it amazing that animals in the wild try to protect and fight to protect their young. If she sat and watched her kid drown what does that make her? In my opinion the lowest form of life. She should be hung!!!
good job mary idiot! who is killing each other? your people where is jesse jackass, meeks the fool, father flaky etc at1 how about old alderidiot eddie smith where is he with his big mouth at now! Here is an idea all the alderidiots are armed they should patrol their wards at night to help out their peoples how about that?
And Ms, Mitchell what part of Englewood do you live in?
I completely agree with your idea to pay any woman 30 to 14 years old $5,000 to be sterilized. $5K even $10K is well above the cost taxpayers incur to take care of all these un-loved babies that grow up to be baby momma's and daddy's and continue the vicious cycle.
The blacks in this city who have any symbalance of a normal life are lost for words.
Even Jesse Jackson doesn't write about this stuff anymore, he focuses on mortgages and food prices in Haiti.
The black community is feeling a sensation that the media has tried to block over the last 20 years, but can't anymore because the stories are becomming more and more horrific.
Shame.
They feel it and they don't like it.
Black offenders murdering five people in a store, or five people in a house, or a mother drowning her own baby, or that fifth story this month of the babysitting daddy pounding the 1 year old to death, or the shooting after shooting after shooting with the accompanying interview of the on-scene gangbanger with a rag on his head saying, "We ain't got no jobs out here." It's all starting, just starting, to reach critical mass.
No one is buying the bullshit anymore.
These images are not just bad project kids. These images are their kids. And even if their kids aren't on the news at a quintuple homicide, they still walk around the house acting the part.
Money, clothes, and ho's. One hundred pairs of gym shoes in the closet. "Thug Life" jacket. Watch on the cap. Girlfriends with no last name. Or first name. School sometimes. Homework never. Future - rapper/dancer.
The stink from this poison is starting to seep through and everyone is trying to clean it up, but they can't. The dam is broken.
Guns, laws, jobs, hope, love. The excuses are at an end. They just create a backlash because no one is buying the bullshit.
Blacks didn't take care of their families. They believed the lie. That thought they were on the verge of prosperity if only newscasters were punished for racial insults or cops were publicly ridiculed.
Now their families and communities are so rotted out, they is no fix. They can only brace themselves as this mess seeps right up to their feet.
Finally. FINALLY. Maybe this awful stink will make the normal, hardworking, God-fearing black americans turn away from the lie. Stop writing checks to Sharpton and Jackson. And accept the painful truth:
They have only themselves to blame.
With penis snatchings endemic in Kinshasa and the Congo, their best and brightest have no solution.
The Congolese need the help of Moprah, Reverand Al and Jesse to curtail the sorcerers.
NO PENISES! NO PEACE!
You forgot the woman in Naperville who killed her three children cause she was upset her doctor husband wanted a divorce. She attempted a suicide, but of course she lives. Another one who should take the death penalty. And she was white, too.
Women who kill their kids for whatever selfish, fuck-up reason...it crosses all races.
A social worker at Juvenile Court once told me that mothers who kill and abuse their own children defy nature. In nature, most animals, instinctually, will try to protect their young. It is not a racial issue. Typically mother suffers from a metal illness, a developmental disability or is diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and can not make an attachment.
The real scary part is that DCFS Blagojovich and Toddler, to save money for Rezko and Levine's crony hiring list, are not screening these kids into the system anymore. At Juvenile Court, we used to screen in 10,000 kids yearly, we are now down to under 1000 per year. Anybody remember Joey and Amanda Wallace?
anonymous said:
How about th rip-off of Chicago taxpayers by the Shakman Settlement:http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-shakmanlist-htmlframe,0,2278169.htmlstory. Some stellar current Chicago police bosses: Cmdr. Michael J. Mealer($20,000), Capt Richard Aquiaga($20,000, Lt. Michael F. Ryan($12,500), and retired Lt. (demoted Capt.) George Cornish($7,190)Lessons learned: be an IAD lackey, a transporter of minors across state lines, conceited, and drink heavily. Finally, jump on all lawsuits.
You forgot the woman in Naperville who killed her three children cause she was upset her doctor husband wanted a divorce. She attempted a suicide, but of course she lives. Another one who should take the death penalty. And she was white, too.
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No, she was a mail order bride from the far east. hUSBAND Wanted a divorce my ass. he wanted a refund. She was legally insane
what about the other calls you guys handle that DON'T hit the news?!?!?
Rodgers should not be excused, but one missing piece to the puzzle is that she was hit by a car as a child (look at the picture in the newspaper) which caused some brain trauma. She was not mentally up to speed, and then to take in to account her being raised in the projects on 51st in State street without a solid family structure that does not help either.
Yes. Immigrants have done well after years of hard work in this country, but if the ethnic groups that make up this country were brought here on slaves ships, beaten and tormented, were not allowed to learn how to read, were not allowed the same freedoms as others, if their women were raped, then maybe those ethnic groups would have some issues too that stem from generational struggles. Ask a African American who his/her great great grandfather was? or why does he/she have green eyes.
We are all related.
Virginian,
A recent list of the most violent states ironically disagrees with your opinion. The most violent states are all the states bordering Mexico. The incidents of the illegals crossing into Texas, Arizona and California brought tremendous crime with them. Mitchell wasn't far off in citing the black/brown vs. white disparity.
Your statistics are interesting but you must back them up. Because anybody doing this job, knows the disparity is as she states.
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To Anonymous 4/24/2008 11:27:00P.M.
Many of the immigrants who have come here were beaten, raped, tortured and denied the right to an education in their own country. That is why they came over here. They saw the opportunity here and worked hard. The same opportunities that are here for all Americans that are willing to work and take care of their families. I am not going to justify the wrongs that occurred in the past, but too many blacks lean on the crutch of what happened years ago, before they were even born. It is a new day. Opportunity is here, you just have to want to take it, but it is easier for some people to see themselves as perpetual vicitms, and to think that they are forever owed. Until that mindset changes, the black community is going to continue to have serious problems.
What the fuk? I don't know who my great grandfather was let alone my great great grandfather! Your comments say it all, blame someone or something else for my fuk'd up lifestyle. What can we get for nothing?
Marilyn LeMac, (who killed her children in Naperville) was not a mail order bride from the far east. She was born and raised in the Chicago area. She was, and is a cold, calculating bitch who would do anything to marry a doctor. I know, a relative of mine went to nursing school with her. It is unfortunate she did not receive the death penalty.
My relatives did not come to this country from Europe until right before World War I. I don't think we are related.
Being on the jobs you guys are on, of course you see a bright line around a person capable of such an act, and want them excluded, punished, terminated. I think we all get that impulse when we see something that wrong, and y'all don't have time to make nicey nicey distinctions out there. Well and good.
But what if there really are ways to provably, effectively reduce the amount of such sick behavior out there? That'd be good for you, right?
Of course, those efforts are too late once somebody has gotten to this point of drowning their kids, etc. Of course, the only answer at that point is to stop the person. Making an example of them only makes sense if you think that would deter others - granted the whacked-out mindset of people who go suicide-by-cop or take out their own family, I doubt deterrence at that level is possible.
I worry that fed-up cops would rather piss on prevention and mental hygiene efforts as bullshit. And that sucks, because without real effective mental health programs, cops will have to keep wading through all the mental sickness.
Hi SCC, I'm from canada and I'd like to ask one question. Why do you use we and us instead of I and me? Is there more the than one officer using the blog?
Thanks for the answer
Hi SCC, I'm from canada and I'd like to ask one question. Why do you use we and us instead of I and me? Is there more the than one officer using the blog?
Thanks for the answer
Canada, eh? How're Bob and Doug? Or those Kids in the Hall? They ever come in?
You actually asked two questions, but we're sure it's the frostbite. Or maybe you're wrestling a moose.
We use "we" and "us" because it's the proper use of the language.
There are approximately 72 of us writing the blog. 73 if John is sober.
Thanks for the visit
4/25/2008 03:15:00 PM
Sir, I do not want to deter others from committing that type of crime. I want revenge for the victim. I want that victim to have a voice, to have justice, to be mourned and to be AVENGED. I became a cop to get justice for those who are denied - the infants and children, the elderly and the handicapped. The abuse that these poor souls receive at the hands of their parents/loved ones/guardians is too horrible to speak of. Cases of child abuse and such atrocities give nightmares for decades. Every time I hear of or investigate a case of terrific abuse, I can not believe that humanity has yet again trumped itself for evil. The demons that commit these acts do not deserve to live, not for one more minute. Yes, we can treat them as humans, feed and clothe them, pray over them and give them fair trials. But at the end of the day, I scream for the death penalty. Until the penal system can guarantee that these demons NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN, I am a proponent of the noose. I have signed too many petitions for people with life sentences, begging the parole board to KEEP THEM in Jail, to believe in the system. Give those poor souls the justice they deserve, and society demands. Keep those "used-to-be" humans strapped to the chair. If, some time in the next hundred years, science can equip us to prevent these monsters from being born, or from committing these acts, then great. I won't hold my breath.
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Your generalizations and unsupported assertions are much worse than my uncited citations to statistics.
Here is one for mulling though:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#jail
To wit:
Characteristics of jail inmates
Demographics
More than 6 in 10 persons in local jails in 2002 were racial or ethnic minorities, unchanged from 1996.
An estimated 40% were black; 19%, Hispanic, 1% American Indian; 1% Asian; and 3% of more than one race/ethnicity.
Another one:
http://www.isteve.com/Crime_Imprisonment_Rates_by_Race.htm
to wit:
Nationwide in 1997, non-Hispanic whites comprised 34.8 percent of the prisoners, African-Americans 46.9 percent, Hispanics 16.0 percent, and others 2.3 percent.
Finally, from infoplease.com, hispanics were 12.5% of the population in 2000 and 14.4% in 2005.
Which would, more or less, leave hispanics in jail at about 30-50% greater than the average of all americans, and blacks in jail at about 300% greater than the average of all americans.
Not the same ballpark at all, and my point still stands. Mary Mitchell has no business whatsoever implying that any other community in America is comparable to blacks in the crime area.
Although I have not provided cites, this is true for offenses and victimizations. The community is overall just way out of proportion to any other group in America.
I don't like thinking this, but realistically, that baby is probably better off; death being preferable to being raised by an obviously deranged teenaged mother in a disadvantaged household.
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