Secret Compartments Legal
- The Illinois Supreme Court declared Thursday that a state law banning secret compartments in cars is unconstitutional.
A unanimous court said the 1999 law meant to discourage gang members from hiding guns from police was too broad and penalized innocent conduct.
Justices ruled on two cases in which police stopped cars with empty air bag compartments. During one, in Cook County in 2004, police found a BB gun. The other, a 2006 stop in Grundy County, turned up a large amount of money.
[...] "Just as citizens are not required to display their worldly possessions to the general public, neither are they required to exhibit them for the plain view of law enforcement," Karmeier wrote.
So the compartments themselves are now legal. What does this do to certain "trap experts" jobs? As it's legal to have a trap in your vehicle, it logically follows that it must be a constitutionally protected space, subject to search only by warrant or consent. New directives anyone?
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
109 Comments:
Does this mean that Sgt. John "International Vehicle Trap Expert" Hamilton will be laid off from the department?
Sgt. John Hamilton is the foremost expert in the field of vehicle traps and his expertize has been utilized by law enforcement agencies from around the world.
This is a big relief for me. My vehicle trap is where I keep my best porn statsh so the wifey-poo doesn't find it!
Well, the law reads that you can, on a CUSTODIAL SEARCH, search the passenger compartment and any CONTAINER THEREIN....so a trapfull of dope is fair game because it's a container... you just won't be able to charge for the trap, only the dope. No biggie... (even if someone found a trap under the old law, they'd give the car back till they were sure that dope or a pistol was in it... who would burn a perfectly good car for a small trap charge?)
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/
Then look up the vid on the father shot and killed in Joliet by gang cross fire.
To anyone who knows this guy from joliet tell him great interview. "We are not going to let these gang banging punks take over our city" I never wanted to be anything other than a Chicago police officer. But looking at where our department is today. I would love to make a lateral move to a department with this kind of backbone. The city should take notes.
Oh no that is bad news for our department's best trap seeker, Sgt. Hamilton. What will the Fat Balding Steven Segal do now that traps are legal? Maybe he will become Chief of Security for 115 Bourbon Street?
Gots to have a trap in da ride cause mama and her other kids donts respect my privacy
My new answering machine message...He He He, Ha Ha Ha
http://blutube.policeone.com/Clip.aspx?key=0FD1BC69F8CB5380
Cut and paste it is worth it..
that trap GO should be done away with anyways. it was made up by the very person that wanted to get his hands on shit first before you ever even knew it was there. it should be deemed illegal if "IF" illegal contraband is found inside the trap.
What does this ruling mean for the P.O. caught with a trap in his car in Kentucky?
This is not surprising from a liberal IL supreme court.
My advice is to not search a vehicle without probable cause or a consent to sign form.
Let the thugs drive around the streets of chicago with loaded guns to commit murder with.
If the driver is not a TVB...let him go with his gun under his seat.
It's not worth it anymore.
Cool. I'm gonna need a trap for when I hit the bars after work. I mean, the gym and the sushi bars. Yeah. That's what I meant. I'm into fintess. Drinking is just silly. Silly, silly, silly.
Wow, this is great news!
Now is the time to open a business installing hidden compartments in vehicles. I will patent my cunning trap designs and charge a reasonable fee.
What's "Trapper John" Hamilton going to do now?
What is Sgt. Hamilton going to do??
It seems as if this PPO P. from 025 has become the new Seiser of this blog. I know he has family that works in 023 and 015 and they are just as bad.
DA SLOPE IS GETTING STEEPER!
SOMEONE TELL ME WHY I SHOULD CARE ANYMORE.
COPS INDICTED AND IT SEEMS THE ASA ARE GOING THAT EXTRA MILE 4 THOSE CASES BUT PUT A LITTLE BLACK OR BROWN KID BEING MOLESTED WE AINT GOT A CASE.
RULES TO WORK AGAINST DICKS THE CITY IS MAKING UP. NO SUCH TIME LIMIT AS 48HRS BY LAW. MORE PAPER WORK TO TALK TO PRISONERS. MUTUAL COMBAT WHAT THE HELL IS THAT.
WAISTING STREET OFFICER TIMES WITH MISSION THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH FIGHTING CRIME. SGTS NOT KNOWING HOW TO CONTROL A CRIME SCENE. FATAL CAR ACCIDENTS TREATED LIKE PROPERTY DAMAGE.
IT WILL TAKE J-FED YEARS TO JUST LEARN HOW TO CONTROL THE POLICE.
MAKING OFFICER BLOW WHEN THEY ARE VICTIMS.
STRIPPING PO'S AND LEAVING THEM AT 311 FOR YEARS.
THE CITY NOT TRYING TO WORK ON A CONTRACT AND POCKETING THE INTEREST THE FOP WILL LET SLIDE THAT WILL ADD UP TO MILLIONS.
IT LOOKS BLEAK......
Great!! Now can somebody post a list of places that'll put a good trap in.
MORE BULLSHIT!......WHY BOTHER!...
Not true. Vehicles don't fall under the same requirements because they are a mobile conveyance. If you arrest someone from inside the car, you can still look for traps. If you have probable cause, i.e. plain smell (odor of cannabis)or plainview you have the entire vehicle. Or if you tow the vehicle, you can search the entire car for inventory. Don't forget... if we had K-9's on the street patroling like nearly every other department in the country we could use dogs to smell the car. Why we have dogs in this city that aren't ever utilized is beyond me... then again, why should it surprise anyone that such a great unit doesn't actually have to patrol.
How can I hide my pet puma in one of those new tiny Smart cars?
Even better is that I hit the medical for 3 days and love every minute of it. Hey Chicago kiss my A$$ because you want a dog police force well you got it! I just sit at home relaxing in my backyard until the sarge comes over than its a free day after that. I will answer my jobs, backup fellow officers, get my 2 personals and lunch. Nothing more ever again.
OFF TOPIC, I was away when Jody visited roll call in my district. By the time I got back and asked, nobody seemed to remember what the blue shirts said to him at an open forum. If he does come to any roll call, LET'EM HAVE IT WITH BOTH BARRELS.
Tell him what a shit job he is doing in the morale of his people. All the shit that gets poured out on this blog, should be let loose in a firm and loud manner like he is the one who better shape up or ship out!
Tell him we know what the Daley administration is so corrupt that the earth should open up and swallow City Hall whole. That if they continue to cut our pay and benefits, then let the citizens kill each other. We will string the yellow tape and write the paper.
Maybe SCC should post a thread,
WHAT WE SHOULD TELL JODY IF HE COMES TO ROLL CALL.
I say lets all trap our cars. YES lets load them up with booze and hit the road
OFF TOPIC: Where were the new Captains assigned ? Im on furlough.
It is funny, SGT J Hamilton is well known for finding traps, while his cousin SGT R Hamilton is well known for SETTING traps. That is why he was brought to the academy, to spy on the recruits for DA MARE.
Sorry Ray, it was a cheap shot, but well worth it.
my whole house shook early this morning around 4am something. my cat was freaking out, my cup of joe spilled and i seriously thought for the first time the earth moved because my boss wrote an honorable mention. i was wrong what was i thinking? it was just an earthquake.
On a custodial search (Chimel), consent search, and an INVENTORY SEARCH, you can still get to the contraband hidden in a secret compartment. You just can't charge them for having a "secret compartment." Don't get your undies in a bunch...this is not a big deal or a "liberal" ruling. It seems to me, that this shouldn't really affect your work.
Now get back to work and shoot some cougars.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not true. Vehicles don't fall under the same requirements because they are a mobile conveyance. If you arrest someone from inside the car, you can still look for traps. If you have probable cause, i.e. plain smell (odor of cannabis)or plainview you have the entire vehicle. Or if you tow the vehicle, you can search the entire car for inventory. Don't forget... if we had K-9's on the street patroling like nearly every other department in the country we could use dogs to smell the car. Why we have dogs in this city that aren't ever utilized is beyond me... then again, why should it surprise anyone that such a great unit doesn't actually have to patrol.
4/18/2008 08:32:00 AM
Hey numbskull, I like your sarcasm, here are some facts however.
It's not all of us in K9 that are J.O's, it's just an above average number compared to other units.
If you need a dog, make your request in a timely manner, not as a last resort because you couldn't find what your looking for. Don't contaminate the area you want searched. If you think you MAY need a dog call. If you change your mind cancel. If you don't know if the dog can help, call, we will tell you if we can assist you or not.
You will know the J.O's, they are the ones that give you shit from word one.
It is YOUR responsibility to have the legit P.C. for us to sniff. If you are fishing then don't wast anyones time. No P.C. or consent by department guidelines, no sniff.
This is for Real property and vehicles. If the dog indicates on the exterior of vehicle, that is information you put on a search warrant application. 99% of the time though the requesting unit won't follow up with a warrant and lets the fool go.
Finally, keep in mind that a K9 request is a low level priority in the CAD system, so often there is a delay from your request to our dispatch time. This is because the CAD system prioritizes other request for other units on city-wide 1. You can swithc to
city 1 and make your request directly, but let your zone know too.
Who'll bury our son?
'IT'S CRAZY' | Family says 2 funeral homes rejected beaten teen, 3rd offered only brief rite, fearing violence
April 18, 2008
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BY STEFANO ESPOSITO Staff Reporter sesposito@suntimes.com
The family wanted something simple for John Mendoza -- the chance to see the 16-year-old one final time and then to say goodbye.
But two Chicago funeral homes told the grief-stricken Mendozas this week they couldn't help, and a third offered only an abbreviated service -- all because John Mendoza had been beaten to death and the funeral homes feared gang retaliation, the Mendozas say.
Richard Modelski, owner of Modell Funeral Homes, denied that the Mendozas were refused service.
But any time someone dies violently, Modelski takes precautions, he said, including requiring a $2,000 fee to pay for extra security.
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Unreal. Your son is a gangbanger and the funeral homes don't want a gang fight and it is the funeral homes fault.
They will probably sue and be given millions.
Don't forget... if we had K-9's on the street patroling like nearly every other department in the country we could use dogs to smell the car. Why we have dogs in this city that aren't ever utilized is beyond me... then again, why should it surprise anyone that such a great unit doesn't actually have to patrol.
4/18/2008 08:32:00 AM
Not according to K-9. No one ever calls them!!! Why the fuck do we have to call them? Why don't they ride in the DOCS like the rest of the poor assholes have do to. That way they could assist on stops. Not that they would find shit. I remember K-9 was on scene I walked right up to the K-9 PO to ask a question with his dog sitting by his side couldn't detect the two bags of weed in my pocket.
Anonymous said...
This is a big relief for me. My vehicle trap is where I keep my best porn statsh so the wifey-poo doesn't find it!
4/18/2008 12:17:00 AM
I thought I was alone!!
What does this ruling mean for the P.O. caught with a trap in his car in Kentucky?
4/18/2008 01:54:00 AM
If the statutes and facts are similar, it would be persuasive, but not binding, precedent for the Kentucky court.
A long time ago in a place far away from chicago there was a rumor that seemed to have some merit.
It was told that finding and recovering a weapon was not efficient in reducing the enemies manpower.
My first thought was, "hot loads"?
I know they worked but were also time consuming and dangerous if one mixed them with the wrong batch.
The actual remedy at that time was found to be small lead pellets or balls, slightly larger than bore,
ram rodded into the barrel just out of sight.
The resulting damage would not only destroy the weapon but also require treatment and assistants to tend to the shooter.
In those days recovery was less then efficient. Traps can become traps.
That self serving windbag, Sgt. Hamilton actually tells people that he what the first to find traps. WTF, mat father was a narc on the old VCD in the 70s and they regularly found them. But those guys back then were more concerned with the WE of this job and not the ME.
4/18/2008 02:24:00 AM
You don't need probable cause to search a drivers or passengers immediate area in a vehicle. You need probable cause to stop a vehicle and reasonable suspicion to search immediate areas.
Why is everyone getting upset with traps being legal? So we need to search a car legally as always. Find the trap, open it, and inventory the thugs contraband. No contraband? Move on. The same guy that gets upset probably gets 99% is his arrests thrown out in court anyway. Our court system will keep the city full of guns, drugs, and gang bangers.
John Hamilton is a zexy beast.
It's a moot point.
No Chicago police officers should be making these kinds of arrests anymore and certainly should not be conducting these types of searches anymore.
What is inside these traps is their business, not yours. You want a peek, get a search warrant.
Write your reports. Arrest offenders who have warrants. Arrest offenders on signed complaints. If the offender runs away while the complaint is being signed, so be it.
You think this is ha ha funny.
If an investigation into a CR number reveals a witness or other evidence against you, it will be forwarded to the Cook County State's Attorney's Office for prosecution.
They will indict you. You will be convicted. You will go to an Illinois penitentiary.
Now go get 'em, tigers.
My advice is to not search a vehicle without probable cause or a consent to sign form.
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Those forms are bullshit. All the defendant has to do is say you beat them until they signed.
Let the judge decide what probable cause is. You want to search something, get a search warrant.
Yeah, Judges are more strict with "court room rules" than with the actual laws which led to an arrest which took PO's time and effort, city/county/state tax dollars to pay for it to be processed. "TUCK IN YOUR SHIRT!" or I'll embarrass you in front of other thugs who will be let go too. NO KISSING OR HUGGING IN MY COURTROOM! Puhlease!
If he does come to any roll call, LET'EM HAVE IT WITH BOTH BARRELS.
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Go get him, tough guy.
One of two things will happen.
1- you will be sent to call back, where they are trying to increase "staffing" anyway.
2- you will get stripped for insubordination, and they will move to fire you.
They can't do that? We have a contract?
On average, they are stripping one P.O. every day. Some include allegations of being "drunk" OFF-DUTY.
J-Fed doesn't care what you have to say. No one cares.
Get to work on-time. Stop bothering citizens. Don't report crimes while off-duty, in fact, don't have any contact with any law enforcement official of any kind while you are off-duty. Write one parking ticket every day, so they can't discipline you for not working. And write it on an abandoned car that no one cares about, so the owner won't complain. Ask for a supervisor on every job. Don't ever send a message on the PDT. Don't ever read a message on the PDT. Don't talk to your parnter. NEVER break a traffic law. In fact, don't drive around. Drive to a location, put yourself on foot patrol and walk away from your car. And your partner. He can only be a witness against you. Do all foot patrol on railroad tracks and forrest preserves, so no one can see you and complain. Make every "victim" openly swear to the facts written on a complaint. Make them raise their right hand. When you read the complaint, speak loudly so everyone in the neighborhood can hear. Call the sergeant to be a witness. And the lieutenant.
And, most importantly, have fun out there.
If you arrest someone from inside the car, you can still look for traps. If you have probable cause, i.e. plain smell (odor of cannabis)or plainview you have the entire vehicle. Or if you tow the vehicle, you can search the entire car for inventory.
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You said it, tiger.
Tell that federal civil jury that you "smelled" cannabis. They'll add another $20 K to your punitive damages.
Tell them you did an inventory search when the only thing you inventoried was drugs and not the 60 CD's in the glove compartment or the portable TV or the 6 cell phones or the picture of the black Jesus in the trunk. Better yet, tear that f#ckin trap open and pull out the drugs and guns. That jury won't hear word one about guns and drugs, they'll only see pictures of the damaged car.
And even if they did know about the guns, they wouldn't care.
Do it. You'll be alright. After all, you got the law on your side.
Liberal Judges, Liberal Elected Officials, Liberal Special Interest groups that live in lily white gated communities who take away more and more tools from the police. what do they care unless they're directly affected! Wait I gotta good idea let's start putting all these good citizens that are being relocated from the cities defunct project buildings into the suburbs that these leaders live in and let nature take it's course. then we'll see.
What does this ruling mean for the P.O. caught with a trap in his car in Kentucky?
4/18/2008 01:54:00 AM
He got bigger problems than a trap in his car
FROM 15APR08 TO 16APR08:
1. 10446 S AVENUE O Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:42:00
2. 9908 S WENTWORTH AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:45:00
3. 9300 S MANISTEE AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:00:00
4. 2400 S PULASKI RD Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:40:00
5. 300 S LEAVITT ST Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:25:00
6. 2433 W 47TH PL Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:40:00
7. 505 E 67TH ST Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:55:00
8. 6615 S WINCHESTER AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:40:00
9. 6911 S DORCHESTER AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:51:00
10. 415 S LOTUS AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:28:00 (HOMICIDE)
11. 3903 W 82ND ST Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:08:00
13. 807 N MONTICELLO AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:20:00
14. 1541 N LOTUS AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:40:00
15. 10952 S MICHIGAN AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:45:00 (HOMICIDE)
16. 1940 S HOMAN AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 05:43:00 (HOMICIDE)
17. 3405 N LARAMIE AVE Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:55:00 (HOMICIDE)
18. 2700 S MICHIGAN AVE Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:30:00
19. 755 E 133RD ST Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:41:00
20. 2103 W ADAMS ST Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:50:00
21. 1754 N CENTRAL AVE Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:58:00
22. 101 N LONG AVE Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:48:00
23. 245 W ROOT ST Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:15:00
24. 6110 S EVANS AVE Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:56:00
25. 1715 W 14TH ST Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:19:00
26. 375 W ELM ST Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:54:00
27. 840 E 87TH ST Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:30:00
28. 10931 S WABASH AVE Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:30:00
Maybe SCC should post a thread,
WHAT WE SHOULD TELL JODY IF HE COMES TO ROLL CALL.
4/18/2008 09:09:00 AM
Do you think he actually gives a shit. If he stops by a station, its to work-out, get a drink of water, or strip a PO.
Wise up you dickweed idealist.
1st & 16th, it's guys like you that really inspire public faith in the CPD.
Have a little cheese with that whine.
TRAP OR NO TRAP , SEISER WILL WILL FIND THE GUN OF DOPE. NO ONE CAN STOP THE MIGHT SEISER. ALSO SEISER WHO IS CURRENTLY ON THE MEDICAL IS STILL ANGRY WITH ALL THSES CPS STUDENTS GETTING KILLED. SEISER IS WORRIED THAT WHEN HE GETS BACK THERE WILL BE NO ONE LEFT ON THE STREET TO ARREST, LOSS COURT TIME. SEISER THE FOWARD THINKER.
If the driver is not a TVB...let him go with his gun under his seat.
It's not worth it anymore.
THere have been a lot of moronic posts on this site BUT you take the cake!!!!!
http://blutube.policeone.com/Clip.aspx?key=AE736E37706B26BF
Watch a Superior Court Judge volunteer to be tasered, can anyone think of any Judges at crook county that we would like to volunteer?
Let the officers get a search warrant like we did not so many years ago. Produce evidence of contraband in the vehicle and search it with a warrant. Now one does not need "experts" to find the trap, one can use a crowbar and dig real deep.
This department, other departments and all state attorney's office should stop trying to take rights away from everyone to catch a few gangbangers and dope dealers. Stop the shortcuts and put some extra effort into investigating the assholes.
The criminals will cheer this opinion of the Supreme Court for now but, if I have to confront some of them while in my vehicle and have to reach for my SUPERTRAP there will be hell to pay.
I neve did like this law, I thought it limited me and some of my special talents.
I'm getting a trap in by vehicle that is sooo big that when I leave the bar and that asshole copper who hunts only coppers as they leave bars cannot find me. When I hit the trap button, it opens, I climb in and shut it, he will never find me.
It will have a pillow, food, a phone, just like George Costanza's dest on Seinfeld.
SSC, why delete the comment about the theif in Gangs, you friends with him?
Don't hate on John Hamilton. Yes he is cocky..but he is a good cop. I have witnessed him open traps in several cars when I worked in the 005th District years ago. It's true he could be the mayor of 115 Bourbon Street..but dat don't make him no bad guy!! By the way SCC...excellent 8th grade picture of the cougar! I had sympathy for him even though he is really an Animal..although that is all the ANIMAL knows how to be.
Tsk,tsk;
Sneed hears rumbles the final straw leading to Mayor Daley's forced resignation of Aviation Commissioner Nuria Fernandez, whose tenure was already troubled, was word she may have been trying to fire her security chief, James Maurer, a highly respected former chief of patrol at the Chicago Police Department. Maurer is now deputy commissioner of aviation, in charge of security at both airports.
Can't Sgt. John Hamilton just shoot himself in the vest again and get another merit promotion?
But that one post calling him the FAT BALD STEVEN SEGAL is so fricken funny! I was laughing so hard!
Any chance he is going to open a Curves For Men, weight reduction center?
Johnny "Socks In The Pants" Hamilton will go on to bigger and brighter things such as Hidden Compartment Finder at the Mahhole Bar and Grill.
Sgt. Hambone will end up being Scottie Hall's driver. No biggie.
Easy to find a trap when you pull the whole car apart with a screwdriver.
John Hamilton and J.J. Bitnerbinder will share mustache stories at Bourbon Street.
I'm bored. When can I do police work again?
heard a rumor that the SAO is going to charge JFED with impersonating a Police Officer.
He is indeed guilty of that.
He has no idea of what he he doing and how to make this city safer, so he will, to keep the public happy, jam coppers up and his claim to fame will be fighting coruption in this department.
What a joke.
Anonymous said...
j-fed at rollcall in 16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLsg0EvZozI
4/17/2008 10:23:00 PM
I work in 016 and thats funny shit.
1st and 16th said...
Even better is that I hit the medical for 3 days and love every minute of it. Hey Chicago kiss my A$$ because you want a dog police force well you got it! I just sit at home relaxing in my backyard until the sarge comes over than its a free day after that. I will answer my jobs, backup fellow officers, get my 2 personals and lunch. Nothing more ever again.
4/18/2008 09:07:00 AM
Hey I just got off phone with you, you didn't sound very sick.....NICE
Trap rule overturned. So what. They didn't ban calling the dogs for a sniff.
Too bad it was not the Kentucky Supreme court. Then, perhaps, PO Jeff G would have less to worry about.
Anonymous said...
heard a rumor that the SAO is going to charge JFED with impersonating a Police Officer.
He is indeed guilty of that.
He has no idea of what he he doing and how to make this city safer, so he will, to keep the public happy, jam coppers up and his claim to fame will be fighting coruption in this department.
What a joke.
4/18/2008 04:14:00 PM
And....Is it just me or is his hat about 4 sizes too big in the front?
FUNNY SHEET;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jezSeQnfCg&NR=1
Sorry,but these are frigging hilarious;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXVopC5__lc&feature=user
With some of the mope advise on this thread remember, don't ever touch any contraband without gloves and if you have don't put it back. Yours will be the only prints found on it.
64 comments and nobody throws out the "Skullet" insult for Hamilton? Come on guys, get with it.
I've heard for his trap class the first thing he does is walk everyone around his home where all his awards, honorables included, are displayed on the walls.
And....
"Sgt. John Hamilton is the foremost expert in the field of vehicle traps and his expertize has been utilized by law enforcement agencies from around the world."
And if you don't believe that, just ask him yourself...he'll tell 'ya.
This city,state and country belong to the criminals, another reason to not be a proactive officer....... why bother
my dog was not a weed dog/ he is a bomb sniffer, ok.
Why us!?
What have we in 021 done to deserve this!!
First Cmdr "I'm too good to talk to anyone lower than a LT" Doty and now CPT Cynthia "The Rat" White...
Shoot me dead.
If 021 wasn't slated for the wrecking ball it sure will be now.
J-Fed, watch an efficiently run district with POs who enjoy coming to work go to hell in a hurry.
Rumor says: Integrity checks in 007 pretending to be hand wavers, integrity checks in 016 pretending to be homeless man finding money, integrity checks in 005 with abando caps request with found unloaded guns, money and drugs in "plain view", integrity checks citywide with fake complaints at front desk and drugs in back seats. watch your back. the supt and this dept are out of control and head hunting with no mercy!
Do a safety patdown, maybe find a wire, or gun. Sneek a cell phone photo.
TRU getting downsized....just announced. 91 POs and 6 Sgts to go back to districts
Off topic, but just got a phone call about "Shots Fired at/by the Police" in 022 about 108 and Halsted, sometime around 2000 hrs.
Tact chasing a car, didn't hear the reason. Guy stops the car and gets out with a Tec-9 and opens up on a 3 man Tact car. They return fire. Nobody hit on either side, and the desk is saying guy is in custody. One officer injured, but unknown right now what kind of injury, just that it is not a PO shot.
Please everyone, it can happen anywhere, at any time. Be careful, and hug the kids and old lady before going to work.
speaking of traps and "dope" it seems that one of those primadonna marshal task force guys, known to those who love him as "Marshal Super Jaw or just dope" was recently schooled in the rules of probable cause. It has been reported that after "Marshal Super Jaw" got laughed out of Dupage County Court because the judge made a finding of no probable cause, he insisted on arguing with the ASA. the ASA had to explain(slowly and repeatedly) that when a judge throws out a case because of the lack of pc you can't rant and rave and say does the judge understand that I'm a u.s marshal? Yeah dope he knew you were a marshal because you wore a marshal pullover shirt in his court room and the fact that you said it on the record like eight times and seven of those times they didn't even ask you. the court reporter was about to throw up!!! Go to school and learn what pc is and how important it is. the chicago police who trained you are getting sick of your lies and bs. Now the judges and ASAs are too. and one more thing stop telling my girlfriend that your on wgn news all the time. she tell me that your en even bigger idiot in person.............so scream rant and rave all you want...
Maurer is now deputy commissioner of aviation, in charge of security at both airports.
4/18/2008 03:38:00 PM
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from one fat city paycheck to another fat city paycheck.
Gotta love the clout.
Integrity checks or entrapment??
*** BREAKING NEWS ***
CPT Cynthia White is leaving the 005th District and going to make move to the 021st District.
Bid out 21 while you can.
You can bet the 5th District will no longer be the worst place in the department.
A great D/C, two awesom W/C's, and NOBODY, I mean NOBODY can be as bad as CW.
Finally, to the ASSHAT who said "your wrong SCC" - well KISS MY ASS!!
The rumor was right, in fact, it was never a rumor - she was going. Look at the Transfer Order today...
This just in:
TRU will be cutting 6 Sgts and 96 PO's (3 per team) by change day.
There will be a TRU East and West, based out of the old 010 and soon to be old 007 Dist.
No word on a superbid or how they intend to let the dumpees bid.
That is all.
Anonymous said...
Tsk,tsk;
Sneed hears rumbles the final straw leading to Mayor Daley's forced resignation of Aviation Commissioner Nuria Fernandez, whose tenure was already troubled, was word she may have been trying to fire her security chief, James Maurer, a highly respected former chief of patrol at the Chicago Police Department. Maurer is now deputy commissioner of aviation, in charge of security at both airports.
4/18/2008 03:38:00 PM
Highly respected in his own mind. He is old and past his prime. He is destroying DOA at airport. Hires friends and political hacks. But the mayor saves him to carry out his favors.
city homicide count as of 18 apr 2008 2150 hrs:
02---7
03---5
04---5
05---7
06---7
07---10
08---6
09---7
10---10
11---10
12---2
13---1
14---1
15---7
16---2
17---2
18---1
21---1
22---2
24---3
25---9
so far today, two probable homicides(not dead yet) in 008 and 3 people shot.. 4 people shot on seperate events in 007 within 25 minutes...
that is all for now.
And what are you, a beaten dog, shuffling shadow that's defeated and won't open your mouth. If the FOP won't speak up then maybe we should. If he comes will you say nothing, or I want a new car, or a 10 hour day or everything is just fine.
DO YOU REALIZE THAT WE WORK WITH RECRUITS THE HAVE MORE TIME IN UNIFORM AND ON THE STREET THAT HE DOES.
If he comes to roll call, let him know, respectfully but in no uncertain terms that:
A. Government, in this city, county, and state is totally corrupt and we hope that all go to jail.
B. The way he is running this department is going to cause a collapse of law and order on the street. Micromanagement will never replace competence, aggressiveness and morale.
C. Our falling pay and benefits while the city builds monuments to that narcissistic jerk is a great morale killer.
D. Meddling into our personal and private affairs will and should not be tolerated.
I could go on, but let's leave it for the thread that I hope will be posted.
Not according to K-9. No one ever calls them!!! Why the fuck do we have to call them? Why don't they ride in the DOCS like the rest of the poor assholes have do to. That way they could assist on stops. Not that they would find shit. I remember K-9 was on scene I walked right up to the K-9 PO to ask a question with his dog sitting by his side couldn't detect the two bags of weed in my pocket.
4/18/2008 10:04:00 AM
Once again a nitwit that knows nothing about police dogs.
great, now I can legally have that trap in squad car . Where else am I going that get that drop gun to plant on the cougar.
If you have an open CR# does that prohibit you from being promoted? Is this just another rumor or is there some truth to it?
SCC PLEASE POUNCE ALL OVER THE MEDIA FOR THIS ONE!! Had a CPD been caught in a park after 1am with "a little bit of meth" it would play over and over and over on all local medias for days, if not weeks, and would again resurface every time the cop came to trial... Im going to hassle the shit out of local medias about covering one of their own! The "thin silver curtain" I will call it just like the CLTV perv got a quick 30 second coverage and thats it HYPOCRITES!
"A CNN reporter was arrested Friday in Central Park with a small amount of methamphetamine in his pocket, but he avoided jail time by agreeing to undergo drug counseling and therapy.
Richard Quest, 46, was arrested around 3:40 a.m. on a count of possession of a controlled substance - a misdemeanor that usually refers to a personal use amount of a drug. He was also charged with loitering; the park officially closes at 1 a.m."
Anonymous said...
Not according to K-9. No one ever calls them!!! Why the fuck do we have to call them? Why don't they ride in the DOCS like the rest of the poor assholes have do to. That way they could assist on stops. Not that they would find shit. I remember K-9 was on scene I walked right up to the K-9 PO to ask a question with his dog sitting by his side couldn't detect the two bags of weed in my pocket.
4/18/2008 10:04:00 AM
why was it in your pocket stupid???? you failed the integrety check
Now John Ham can shut his trap.
Whoever the dumbass is, that walked next to a police canine with two bags of weed in his pocket is certain to be a three times clouted capt. one day. So kiss up to the idiot asshat while the gettin's good boys and girls.
Rumor says: Integrity checks in 007 pretending to be hand wavers, integrity checks in 016 pretending to be homeless man finding money, integrity checks in 005 with abando caps request with found unloaded guns, money and drugs in "plain view", integrity checks citywide with fake complaints at front desk and drugs in back seats. watch your back. the supt and this dept are out of control and head hunting with no mercy!
Do a safety patdown, maybe find a wire, or gun. Sneek a cell phone photo.
4/18/2008 07:47:00 PM
Complete and total BULLSHIT. Why in the fuck do people start these rumors? Isn't morale shitty enough without your nonsense? Worry about integrity checks after IAD gets a minimum of 50 more bodies. Until then, this is about as legit as the rumor that IAD are riding with Traffic Unit cars to enforce DUI's on coppers...where do you people come up with this shit? Bunch a paranoid sissies!
I wish Rover would have chewed the ass off "weed boy"
Anonymous said...
Don't hate on John Hamilton. Yes he is cocky..but he is a good cop. I have witnessed him open traps in several cars when I worked in the 005th District years ago. It's true he could be the mayor of 115 Bourbon Street..but dat don't make him no bad guy!! By the way SCC...excellent 8th grade picture of the cougar! I had sympathy for him even though he is really an Animal..although that is all the ANIMAL knows how to be.
4/18/2008 03:13:00 PM
Hate John The Ham 'caused he cried every day after getting dumped to 002. wat-a-pussy!
Not according to K-9. No one ever calls them!!! Why the fuck do we have to call them? Why don't they ride in the DOCS like the rest of the poor assholes have do to. That way they could assist on stops. Not that they would find shit. I remember K-9 was on scene I walked right up to the K-9 PO to ask a question with his dog sitting by his side couldn't detect the two bags of weed in my pocket.
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Man, that is some bullshit. You walked up to the k9 officer and the officer instructed the dog to search you and the dog just sat there?
The dogs don't just howl when dope is near them, they do it when their handler tells them to.
Besides, if you already had the weed on you, what the hell was the dog doing there?
Whoever the dumbass is, that walked next to a police canine with two bags of weed in his pocket is certain to be a three times clouted capt. one day. So kiss up to the idiot asshat while the gettin's good boys and girls.
4/18/2008 11:40:00 PM
why was it in your pocket stupid???? you failed the integrety check
4/18/2008 11:09:00 PM
Sorry dickhead I don't carry inventory bags up my ass. You Sir, are an asshat, aldercreature, who drinks the kool-aid. I'm sorry fuckface where do you put recovered dope?
Rumor says: Integrity checks in 007 pretending to be hand wavers, integrity checks in 016 pretending to be homeless man finding money, integrity checks in 005 with abando caps request with found unloaded guns, money and drugs in "plain view", integrity checks citywide with fake complaints at front desk and drugs in back seats. watch your back. the supt and this dept are out of control and head hunting with no mercy!
Do a safety patdown, maybe find a wire, or gun. Sneek a cell phone photo.
4/18/2008 07:47:00 PM
All the more reason to wave back and drive right by!!
Traps are urban legend.
Not according to K-9. No one ever calls them!!! Why the fuck do we have to call them? Why don't they ride in the DOCS like the rest of the poor assholes have do to. That way they could assist on stops. Not that they would find shit.
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If you don't think they'll find anything...
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE IF THEY DON'T HELP ON YOUR STOPS?
Is there some copper out there with a better deal than you? Does that hurt your feelings? Do you think that you deserve those same perks?
Can't anyone else see that little special something glowing inside you?
Do you want that little doggie in the window of the K-9 car?
Man, that is some bullshit. You walked up to the k9 officer and the officer instructed the dog to search you and the dog just sat there?
The dogs don't just howl when dope is near them, they do it when their handler tells them to.
Besides, if you already had the weed on you, what the hell was the dog doing there?
4/19/2008 12:32:00 AM
Drugs can be found in multiple places. Weed can be found on people and in cars. Occasionally people who sell/smoke weed drive around in cars. At times people keep their weed on them and in hidden compartments of car.(see trap thread, oh wait this is it!!!) Don't be mad K-9 peeps.
hey does anyone have the recovered guns count so far this year compared to last year ??
is that the same "john im going to shoot my vest and then come to work and say i was shot" ? but forgot to put a hole in his shirt.
"is that the same "john im going to shoot my vest and then come to work and say i was shot" ? but forgot to put a hole in his shirt.
4/19/2008 10:02:00 PM"
Is it the same John that worked in 013 &used to go prowling in 014 find an abandoned steal & call it as an on view PSMV with fleeing offenders? Is it that same piece of shit? Sure wish he'd clarify a few things?
If you don't think they'll find anything...
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE IF THEY DON'T HELP ON YOUR STOPS?
Is there some copper out there with a better deal than you? Does that hurt your feelings? Do you think that you deserve those same perks?
Can't anyone else see that little special something glowing inside you?
Do you want that little doggie in the window of the K-9 car?
4/19/2008 07:42:00 PM
I'm sure it was that something inside of you that garnered you your "prestigous K-9 spot." Look guy, why don't you prove me wrong and ride on some stops and find some dope? Guess what? You won't. Please don't be upset this isn't jealousy just observation. I DON'T WANT YOUR SPOT. I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR PERKS. IN FACT, I WASN'T AWARE THERE WAS ANY. ENLIGHTEN ME? IT IS THE LAST JOB I WOULD TAKE BESIDES WORKIN INSIDE. IT DOESN'T INTEREST ME. Sorry I didn't understand that your dogs don't detect dope unless there given the order. My fault. But don't get all worked up when someone asks a legitimate question. Tell Officer why can't K-9 actively patrol to assist officers on the street?
Drugs can be found in multiple places. Weed can be found on people and in cars. Occasionally people who sell/smoke weed drive around in cars. At times people keep their weed on them and in hidden compartments of car.(see trap thread, oh wait this is it!!!) Don't be mad K-9 peeps.
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Wow, you managed to both miss the point AND get high and mighty in the same post. Seriously, congratulations to you.
And if you still can't tell why you are a dope, then you need to brush up on your 'search and seizure' law.
But really, your sarcasm was great - spot on. Too bad you missed the bus entirely.
They can do integrity checks on me all day long, because Nothing from Nothing leaves Nothing. Im doing Nothing, Im getting Nothing, and most of all Im turning in Nothing ! Im sure you can get an event number for NOTHING.
is this the same J.Hamilton who got an award for every fuckup he incurred, due to being related to the CPD Rowan Family? Also made Sgt. w/o thecollege requirements? Should have been fired decades ago. Only in Chitcago.
Wow, you managed to both miss the point AND get high and mighty in the same post. Seriously, congratulations to you.
And if you still can't tell why you are a dope, then you need to brush up on your 'search and seizure' law.
But really, your sarcasm was great - spot on. Too bad you missed the bus entirely.
4/20/2008 12:45:00 AM
explain please
Hey Sgt Hamilton. I got some nice warm bread and your ponytail hidden in a trap.
when did this bozo JH shoot himself?? was he off duty? After meeting this clown, I BELIEVE IT!
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