Oh No He Didn't
Think the mayor and J-Fed will be taking up our defense in this portion of the cougar case? From Neil Steinberg's column:
Is it true that after the police shot that cougar in Roscoe Village, a Chicago cop knelt by the animal and was just planting a handgun next to its limp paw when another officer whispered, "Now Bill, there's no need for that here."
Sorry, cheap shot.
Oh, that's OK Neil. We understand you have a column to write. By the way, can you find even a single example of a Chicago cop planting a weapon at a crime scene in the past 10 years? 15? 20? Didn't think so.
How are those AA meetings going? Beat your wife lately? Those bruises healing up? Can she come out from the house to do a bit of gardening anytime soon or is it a bit soon for that? Have you finally conquered the alcohol driven demons caused you to beat the living crap out of a woman you pledged to "love and honor"?
Sorry, cheap shots.
Fuck you, you sanctimonious piece of shit.
How are those AA meetings going? Beat your wife lately? Those bruises healing up? Can she come out from the house to do a bit of gardening anytime soon or is it a bit soon for that? Have you finally conquered the alcohol driven demons caused you to beat the living crap out of a woman you pledged to "love and honor"?
Sorry, cheap shots.
Fuck you, you sanctimonious piece of shit.
Labels: media
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
181 Comments:
Bravo SCC
He never learned about glass houses and stones...........
What a massive handjob!! It's kinda funny that people with the most problems like to criticize others to deflect their personal problems away from them. You look like a wife beater, nitwit.
I'm gonna have a big drink of ETOH for you, you miserable, alcoholic assh*le.
ETOH = Ethyl alcohol for all the Neil Steinberg's out there.
off topic but very news worthy and i hope you make this a topic SCC.
commander of 003 calls for a bunch of cars at 62/cottage. so the entire district shows up. what is going on? she lost her cell phone. mind you she's in her personal car and not in uniform (why and what are you doing there, commander)? so the district searches everywhere and everyone. eventually someone ends up finding it on some kid.
Word to the wise commander crump-hale: be careful of what you call cars for, and who is listening and watching you.
i can't believe j-fed made you a commander. did he even talk to your pathetic excuse for a police officer? i know you think you're going to do your last 5 years in 003 as commander, if i were you, i'd think of something else to do, and soon.
SCC,
Stop it,Neil supports Obama HUSSEIN...
Hey, maybe if the department comes up with a fitness plan for it's members Neil could get his fat ass out of the office and join us.
as of 16 apr 2008 1957hrs city homicides at:
citywide:102
leading district(s):
007--10
002--7
010--9
011--9
008--6
009--7
015--9
025--8
great - we righteously kill cougars , he beats them down for no reason.
That's why I don't read the Scum-Times and I advise all of my friends and relatives to never buy it.
It seems to be working.
Hopefully it'll go bankrupt within 3-5 years and their so-called journalists can get a real job for $10 an hour. HAHA Neil
Screw this City and their residents.
Most of the people are only concerned with is who is winning American Idol.
A cop kills a violent cat and the CPD gets a backlash from their residents.
Let the City go to hell and murder rates double.
i don't give a fuck anymore. Just pay me.
SCC
That is brilliant!!
A Witness said he heard the cougar right before it was shot say "Shit man iz jus goin to da sto fo sum pampas fo my shorty." while another witness heard the cougar saying "I jus barely woke up office." and "Dis my brothers fur.".
Speaking of cougars....do you know cougars love coppers?
They know we eat out every night.
ooooohhh you go SCC!
SCC-1
Media Scum-0
It's so hard to get the hate out at AA, I admit that it's cathartic to write about hating cops. Those pricks locked me up and humiliated me.
Neil Steinberg
Damn,I felt like a modern day Ernest Hemingway until the train came off the tracks. Do you know what I would do for one more Fuzzy Navel or Amaretto Stone Sour?
Neil Steinberg
Those bastards just don't know what kind of paper I could have cut if i was a copper. I could have earned the Pulitzer Prize for crime fiction,I mean nonfiction.
Neil Steinberg
At least I am have not been fired or publicly humiliated by the media. I so dearly love being part of the INK CURTAIN.
Neil Steinberg
I just wish those "fascist thug cops" would realize that the pen is INDEED mightier than the sword.
Neil Steinberg
Pow, right in the Kisser!
If they could senselessly murder a poor,innocent cat imagine what they would do to me; an intellectual powerhouse writer.
Neil Steinberg
SCC you forgot one.
Hey Neil are you still wearing ladies under garments?
Hey Neil- BLOW ME! (was that a cheap shot?)
How about: Your ugly and your mother dresses you funny!
or
When you were born you were so ugly the Doctor slapped your mother.
Thats all I got. Im just sick and tired of having pot shots taken at the police.
nicely said Scc, what a fucking stroke that guy is! I hope that hes gone next round of Sun times lay offs!
If only I had a supervisor as prudent as Superintendent Jody Weis early in my career,none of this horror would have visited me.
Neil Steinberg
I will atone for the murder of the poor,innocent feline by writing a column encouraging the "Cult of Greenology" and requesting all of my gullible sheeple to become members of PETA.
Neil Steinberg
I feel so alone and misunderstood without my Fuzzy Navels and Amaretto Stone Sours.
Neil Steinberg
The predator has become the prey. Blogs are the equivalency of a gun,the "Great Equalizer"
Hail SCC!!!
Please encourage your family,friends and acquaintances to stop subsidizing thrash media.
Boycott this liberal scum with your wallet.
Excellent rebutal...
Off topic news flash*** P.P.O. N.P. 3rd watch in 025 did it again. He got into another car accident. When will this goof learn? I heard that before joining CPD he never drove and bought his car two weeks into the academy in January 2007!
SCC,
I think you are the sanctimonious piece of excrement. Imagine having a group of "fascist thug cops" bust into your Norhtshore residence in the middle of the night and degrade you by placing handcuffs on you and arresting you.
They planted numerous bruises upon my dear wife's body,particularly her face,by battering her in the most inhumane manner. They held me down in a chair,while forcing some kind of horrible intoxicating alcoholic beverage down my throat.
Thus,giving the deceptive appearance of me being inebriated, while hurling offensive cursewords at me. I can't be sure but I think one of them held a running chainsaw to my face while murmuring something about porn on my laptop. One definitely assaulted my anus with something more abrasive than my butt plug,for sure I could tell.
These are the enemy,the "True Marxist" must destroy any semblance of orthodoxy,structure or respct for institution or law enforcement.
I being a card carrying member of the "LEFT",ACLU and the Pravda/Sun Times will do everything within my power to disrupt and destroy these treacherous bastards.
Signed & Sworned Affidavit
Neil Steinberg
Fire alert . . .
A hot item: Here's an extra alarm tidbit!! All living Chicago fire commissioners, including current Fire Chief Ray Orozco and his father -- also a former fire commissioner, were summoned for dinner at Tavern on Rush Monday night by Orozco to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the Chicago Fire Department.
I should have been a fireman,at least there leader knows how to celebrate and isn't afraid to consume alcohol in a licensed establishment.
What a jag that guy is. Now I have to spend all day tommorow calling 18,000 irish relatives telling them they can't read his fockin' column anymore because he was calling the police criminals.
By the way wife, it never gets better. It's not your fault and yes, other men WILL want you.
Thank you, SCC. As I've said in a previous post, I'm in favor of putting out all of the dirt on these reporters. Cops generally live cleaner and more honorable lives than these scum bags who "report" the news.
They have lost all sight of what it means to report news. Now it's, "Killer Blizzard comiming to Chicago!!" Oh, really? It's going to snow in Chicago in the winter? And you're always let down when the massive killer snow storm is just an average dusting. They look for sensationalism in everything they can. They don't care about news any more, just so long as they can stir up some crap and sell ad space. They make me sick.
Let's keep hammering back. Any good stories for the public about our better-than-thou reporters? The public should know who is feeding them the news that they base opinions on and what their political agendas might be.
Why should we continue to take this crap and not strike back?
Somebody said that the Scumtimes posted a picure of the cougar when he was a baby cub. Is that true? Then interviewed the cougars family that stated he wasnt a cougar. He might of been a cougar in the past but was cleaning up his life. Apparently he wanted to enroll in college and take "How not to disembowel people 101" Any truth?
GOD created the Universe the Sun is Brilliant, God is Omnipotent
SCC-Thank you!
my morale is way up...you can wear my uniform boss...keep up the good work...no wonder we dont have a contract and the job sucks...alot if not most of you are idiots...you fools hold so much power and you do nothing...one more thing i will march at st. judes for the gold star families if they refuse to stand with bosses... if that makes me an asshole i can LIVE with it...
Right on!
By the way Neil, whats it like to land a punch in between the same eyes you once looked into and said "I love you"? Just wondering cause I'd never beat a woman and well...you have. Just wondering. I dont know if you have kids. Do you? If so are they proud of the man they call father and his drunken beatdowns of the woman they call mother? I'm just wondering cause I'm not like that. I would walk through the fires of hell for the woman I love. I would gladly die in her place. Whats it like to be a piece of garbage that picks on those weaker than himself? Just wondering cause I put my life on the line every day to protect those weaker than myself. Sorry if that was a cheap one Neil. How did it feel when your fist smashed into the face of the woman you claimed to love forever? Did it make you feel strong? Like a man? Did you feel anything at all in your alcohol soaked brain? Sorry, thats also cheap.
Hope I catch you behind the wheel after youve had a few you woman beating shitbag.
Well Put SCC
Nuff Said
Sanctimonious POS Media Tool He Is
ROFL SCC I thought the EXACT same thing yesterday when I read his column.
What a piece of crap!
Great piece of reporting on this asshole. A lot of these news creatures have baggage, but they exercise "professional courtesy" toward one another. A good example is Clarence Page, a member of the editorial board of the Chicago Fib-une. In the 1980’s he was married to another columnist for the Fib-une, Leanita McLain, who wrote an article in the editor to one of the Washington D.C. rags. The topic of her rant? “How I Learned To Hate Whites.” In her article she stated that when she was riding on a bus, she felt the urge to “machine gun every white face on the bus.” Nice. When the article made its way back to Chicago, the Fib-une said she wouldn’t be disciplined because she was writing on her own time.
If a white columnist had written something like that…enough said.
It’s too bad that there isn’t a data base in the squad car computers that states a citizen’s political affiliation, liberal or conservative. Then when a fuckin’ liberal puke calls the police for help, the proper amount of assistance can be applied. This should range from doing nothing to doing very little. Thanks to Mayor Richard M(idget) Daley, the climate in the city is anti-police. The Daley’s always believed in the philosophy of rule it, or ruin it. JFK, who by today standards would be considered a neocon, once recited a poem about soldiers, that could be applied to police officers:
God and the Police Officer,
All men adore,
In times of danger,
And not before,
When the danger is gone,
And all things are righted,
God is forgotten,
And the Police Officer is slighted.
God Bless America, don’t let the DemocRATS ruin it.
Reporters, columnists, FBI agents, ASA's, and other assorted FEDS all drink and mess up. We should quit giving them passes when we stumble across them and once we do our sworn duty we should notify the press and SCC that we did.
Then when J-Fed and his cronies attempt to intercede on their behalf we can hold their feet to the fire, just like they are doint to us.
Arnie Flunkin says hes heading to springfield to demand more gun control... I agree 100%, those damn gangbangers with their valid foid cards and legally bought guns are getting out of control. Dumb-ass lisp boy. Someone get Buddy Hitton on him. Gunthells, Gunthells by da gunsthore ....
Why so sensitive? No need to retaliate with personal attacks on Neil. Attack his work, column but not his family. Why lower yourself to the media level? I laughed at his column and considered the source.
The news was reading off all the schools closed this morning. Didn't know it was snowed that much last night.
I thought i heard the cat was a male. Good thing, cause Mr stein
cant say that the Coppers kicked it; then accuse them of being woman-beaters..........
Interesting,
Sneed's Column
Beleaguered Gov. Blagojevich may have tipped his hand about his political career during a Campus Security Task Force press conference Tuesday, the eve of the first anniversary of the Virginia Tech massacre.
• Tell 'em: Blago's unsolicited career advice given to Illinois Wesleyan student president Kelly Petrowski, who served on the task force, was thus: "I hope you get straight A's and go on to graduate school . . . or go on to professional school or whatever you may be pursuing and I hope one day you go on and make tens of millions of dollars. And if you want my recommendation and your choice is politics or business, business pays a heck of a lot better and I think it's a lot more rewarding in many ways.''
No kidding.
TRY BEING A COP NOWADAYS!!!
Prayers for Robert Sorich and Patrick Slattery
A "somber prayer for two who have been wronged?"
Oh please, give me a break. These people going to jail were CORRUPT! They STOLE jobs rightfully meant for others who might have had a FAIR chance to get them if not for the crooks who populate Bridgeport and think this City is theirs.
Hey Bridgeporters, better get used to saying prayers, more of your own are heading to jail. I say solemn prayers also, I pray that King Rat, Richard M Daley and the rest of his corrupt cronies will go to prison one day soon too.
May they rot in jail and may Bridgeport fill up with yuppie Cub Fans.
Hopefully it'll go bankrupt within 3-5 years and their so-called journalists can get a real job for $10 an hour. HAHA Neil
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3-5 years?
The Scumtimes must make up a $50 million dollar shortfall by the summer, something they were supposed to do in the last round of layoffs, but failed to.
The paper was bleed to nothing by now imprisoned management, a financial situation that a floundering newspaper could ill afford.
3-5 years?
Try August.
How about my favorite police hater, Cliff "Convicted Felon" Kelly.
Talking about the cougar on my favorite radio program on WVON.
Black caller tells Kelly, "Look, when it comes down to an animal's life or a person's life, a person must win out every time."
Kelly responds, "Does that include the life of a police officer?"
Kelly: "Oh just kidding, just kidding."
Serve and protect?
Just kidding, just kidding.
DALEY SAID ON THE NEWS YESTERDAY THAT WE HAVE 14000 COPS. THAT'S FUNNY, LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THE LIST THERE WAS ONLY 9000. ANYONE GONNA CALL HIM ON IT?
WHAT THE HELL IS A ROSCOE VILLAGE!
ISNT ROSCOE A CHARACTER ON THE DUKE OF HAZARDS.
WHERE WAS THE COUGAR ANIMAL TAGS, BETTER CHECK ITS DNA TO MAKE SURE ITS DEAD AND THAT IT REALLY IS A COUGAR AND NOT AN ARCTIC FOX.
Hi...
After reading this article by the Sun Times, it seems like most Chicagoans DO support the cops in this case:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/897930,cougar041608.article
And I'm one of them! The thing (excuse me, "beautiful animal") was stalking children. Had to die.
Incidentally, commentators to the national story on CNN were much more likely to say the cops were wrong. Thank God we're still a little more sensible than that here in the windy city.
DC dopy of 021 restricts tact and gang teams from going outside district to eat, is this happening in any other district? anyone?
Dear SCC,
Thank you and let's keep the pressure on this prick!
SCC,
You need to send your response to Neil to his actual email address.
Anyone done that yet?
hey neil look in the mirror
I read the article and then went directly to the comments expecting the regular crap from the citizens. Well, needless to say I was surprised by the comment from Loomis..."your errors are covered up by your peers. Neil, remember you are a bystander, a voyeur, you are certainly not a doer. Daddy, what did you do with your life? "well son, I was an observer because I had neither the courage or the ability to be anything else."...........Nice
Well played, SCC. Well played.
When does the Socialist Giveaway Stop???
How many ILLEGAL ALIENS will be getting their rent subsidized?
Section 8 list open for 1st time since '97
SUBSIDIZED RENTAL HOUSING | 200,000 expected to apply for 40,000 spots
For the first time in more than a decade, the waiting list for the Chicago Housing Authority's Section 8 voucher program will open today for applications.
More than 200,000 are expected to try for the coveted vouchers that subsidize private market rentals for the holder. When the application period ends May 15, a lottery will determine the 40,000 applicants who will win a spot on the list.
"The number of Latino families needing this kind of assistance is growing, not only due to the disproportionate number of Latino families involved in foreclosure, but we have seen a tremendous increase in overcrowded housing," said Maricela Garcia of Latinos United. "It's a manifestation of the hard economic times, the housing crunch and the increase in unemployment, so this kind of assistance is critical today."
Unlike public housing, the Section 8 program is not just open to low-income families. Middle-income families qualify for the rental assistance voucher too, based on federal income guidelines
Why so sensitive? No need to retaliate with personal attacks on Neil. Attack his work, column but not his family. Why lower yourself to the media level? I laughed at his column and considered the source.
no ones attacking his family u pussy, do u always let people walk all over u!
Unbelieveable,see the common thread???
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080316152824AAZih2i
Right on!
By the way Neil, whats it like to land a punch in between the same eyes you once looked into and said "I love you"? Just wondering cause I'd never beat a woman and well...you have. Just wondering. I dont know if you have kids. Do you? If so are they proud of the man they call father and his drunken beatdowns of the woman they call mother? I'm just wondering cause I'm not like that. I would walk through the fires of hell for the woman I love. I would gladly die in her place. Whats it like to be a piece of garbage that picks on those weaker than himself? Just wondering cause I put my life on the line every day to protect those weaker than myself. Sorry if that was a cheap one Neil. How did it feel when your fist smashed into the face of the woman you claimed to love forever? Did it make you feel strong? Like a man? Did you feel anything at all in your alcohol soaked brain? Sorry, thats also cheap.
Hope I catch you behind the wheel after youve had a few you woman beating shitbag.
4/17/2008 03:30:00 AM
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Brother, I wanna roll 10-4 with you. Excellent post.
as of 16 apr 2008 1957hrs city homicides at:
citywide:102
leading district(s):
007--10
002--7
010--9
011--9
008--6
009--7
015--9
025--8
4/16/2008 11:56:00 PM
Guess I-Clear isn't updated yet. as far as i know 010 and 011 both have 10 a piece also
Maybe Neil and Cliff Kelly could partner up. Between them, we might find half a brain.
I'm still surprised that Neil Steinberg is married. He seems like he is willing to "take a dare."
It's a shame that his long haired feminine looking son wasn't in the jaws of that cougar. I saw his kid's
picture
at the polar plunge and realized he is just a cb# waiting to happen, typical liberal parent without disipline.
Eat shit and DIE you wife beating drunk.
You can't even use that old saw on this mutt. "When did you stop beating your wife?" He would have to look at his watch.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Since we seem to so often only hear negative comments from the public, I thought I would share a story of what recently happened to my partner and I. We were eating dinner in a local diner, late in the evening. Contrary to what a lot of people who aren't police think, my partner and I always frequent restaraunts where we do pay for our meals. As we went to the cash register to pay for our meal, we were told by the waitress that it had already been paid for. She pointed to an older gentleman who I would guess to be in his 70's, sitting across the room, who she stated was a retired postal worker. She said he comes in several times a week to have coffee late at night, and everytime he sees police officers eating he pays for their meals. When I started to walk towards him to thank him for his generosity, she stopped me and told me not to thank him. She said he refuses to be thanked. He simply wants to show his appreciation for police officers that no one seems thank anymore. She honestly gave this speech as if she's said it many times before to other police officers. Each time I get discouraged by the public outcry when we simply do our jobs, I remember the time that "true gentleman" thanked me in the best way he saw fit, and I think that there are probably many more like him around this city and country, that we quickly foget about when the public is critizing us for doing our jobs. Much the way the public often forgets about the good police in the department. I'd encourage anyone who has had an experience like mine to share it. I think it's time to hear a few positive posts, rather than all the negative ones.
4/16/2008 12:29:00 PM
Do your self a favor pal, drop the price of the meal on your table. You are covered, no bribe or whatever.
Worst case scenario-
the wait staff thinks you're the greatest tipper on earth [miles ahead of J-Fed, I'm told]
4/17/2008 10:13:22
Just so you all know this is the email exchange between this jerk and I. Feel free to join in:
nsteinberg@SunTimes.Com
-Michael Chorba, 020
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You are not the only person in the world. Consider other people, who did think it was funny. I wrote it for them, not you. Do your job and I'll do mine.
Neil Steinberg, CST
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From: Michael Chorba [mailto:xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thu 4/17/2008 1:04 AM
To: Steinberg, Neil
Subject: bad joke
You are not funny. Leave the bad humor at home. Try to show some professionalism.
Michael Chorba, CPD
How about my favorite police hater, Cliff "Convicted Felon" Kelly.
Talking about the cougar on my favorite radio program on WVON.
Black caller tells Kelly, "Look, when it comes down to an animal's life or a person's life, a person must win out every time."
Kelly responds, "Does that include the life of a police officer?"
Kelly: "Oh just kidding, just kidding."
Serve and protect?
Just kidding, just kidding.
4/17/2008 07:06:00 AM
Please explain more. Who is this guy? What station did he say this on? Why arent we protesting outside this radio station?
People, I'm calling for tougher cougar laws and an assault cougar ban.
I'd explain further but I have to go scratch some threats on a college bathroom stall and then have an anti-cougar rally..........
Yours in Da Lawd
Rev Flegjackton
Let's declare a Neil Steinberg Day!
The festivities will be held at Bughouse Square. First we will all take turns buying Neil a drink. Then an M.C. will recap Neil's lifetime accomplishments, such as throwing shit at the Police for the last half century. After that there will be a (female) blow-up doll dressed in lingerie that Neil can beat the shit out of. Neil will then be invited to give a speech, at which time he will puke all over the stage. Neil will then be presented with a (male) blow-up doll to take home, as a gift from us all.
Anyone that feels that they must beat their wife/girlfriend is a sissy, punk ass b*tch.
Isn't that right Neil?
Being the daughter of a retired Chicago police office, this article really pissed me off, but I didn't exactly know how to respond. Your response is awesome! Thank you!
I got the link to your blog from someone commenting on another Sun-Times article regarding the cougar. I will now be a regular reader.
I'm not sure if "sanctimonious" is really the word you are looking for, but you sure love it.
HIDDEN MESSAGE: Sanctimonious is getting old. And it's an awfully haughty word for a police blog. Asshat is old too. Can't we try out some new words?
Miss Lilly Crump-Hales was a great police officer even though she never arrested anyone, was a great merit sergeant who couldn't actually do a sergeants job, a great merit lieutenant who made her sergeants do her work, and a great captain who hid for anything that required thought other than a uniform inspection. Since she has had such a great career she will make an excellent commander. This city will get the police department it deserves. Welcome to the new CPD.
I'm not saying this is true, but when you imply that a Chicago cop hasn't planted a gun in 20 years, I gotta laugh...A simple google search brought up a number of examples.....
"On August 6th 2007, 18-year-old Aaron Harrison was enjoying a summer night hanging out in front of the corner store at Roosevelt and Francisco on the West Side of Chicago when the police rolled up. A few minutes later, Aaron was dead, fatally shot in the back by the Chicago police, who claimed he pointed a gun at them. Witnesses insisted that Aaron didn’t have a gun, and multiple witnesses reported seeing police take a bag out of the trunk of a police car and plant a gun near Aaron’s body. Read more about the killing here and here and here."
Every person that gets locked up for being a pussy wife beater tends to hate the police. That generally goes for all criminals. And yes if you beat a woman you are not only a CRIMINAL but a huge PUSSY!
STEINBURG:
I will dance for joy when that rag that you "write" for goes financially broke. It is already journalistly and intellectually broke.
Just for the record: What journalism school did you go to? Or did they make you sign a non-disclosure agreement?
Come on, SCC. Have some sympathy for the guy. After all he's been through, Neil Steinberg has become bitter and finds he needs to cling to his ACLU membership card, iPhone and case of vintage Chateau du Rothschild.
Anonymous said...
Why so sensitive? No need to retaliate with personal attacks on Neil. Attack his work, column but not his family. Why lower yourself to the media level? I laughed at his column and considered the source.
4/17/2008 06:03:00 AM
You don't call it "personal" when someone accuses all cops of being criminals?
i can't believe j-fed made you a commander. did he even talk to your pathetic excuse for a police officer? i know you think you're going to do your last 5 years in 003 as commander, if i were you, i'd think of something else to do, and soon.
4/16/2008 11:45:00 PM
I'm so surprised! She is such a quality....naah, can't do it. HAHAHAHAHA! Nice move J-Fed! It's business as usual, I knew it the second he moved HER up! hahahaha!
commander of 003 calls for a bunch of cars at 62/cottage. so the entire district shows up. what is going on? she lost her cell phone. mind you she's in her personal car and not in uniform (why and what are you doing there, commander)? so
SHIT I'LL TELL YOU WHY. CAUSE SHE'S ON SOME BULLSHIT. JODY DIDNT HEAR OF HER GANG TIES IN ENGLEWOOD AND I GUESS THE THIRD DISTRICT TOO. THAT SPOT AT 62 COTTAGE ALL GANGSTA'S AND DRUG DEALERS. FIGHT THE POLICE THERE TOO. HMMM - TELL ME MORE WHY SHE WAS THERE OFF DUTY>
Hey,
Don't judge me!
The bitches just never listen. They need a crack.
Neil
as of 16 apr 2008 1957hrs city homicides at:
citywide:102
leading district(s):
007--10
002--7
010--9
011--9
008--6
009--7
015--9
025--8
4/16/2008 11:56:00 PM
must be a cps alum never quite learned about that whole numerical order thing huh?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Great piece of reporting on this asshole. A lot of these news creatures have baggage, but they exercise "professional courtesy" toward one another. A good example is Clarence Page, a member of the editorial board of the Chicago Fib-une. In the 1980’s he was married to another columnist for the Fib-une, Leanita McLain, who wrote an article in the editor to one of the Washington D.C. rags. The topic of her rant? “How I Learned To Hate Whites.” In her article she stated that when she was riding on a bus, she felt the urge to “machine gun every white face on the bus.” Nice. When the article made its way back to Chicago, the Fib-une said she wouldn’t be disciplined because she was writing on her own time.
If a white columnist had written something like that…enough said.
It’s too bad that there isn’t a data base in the squad car computers that states a citizen’s political affiliation, liberal or conservative. Then when a fuckin’ liberal puke calls the police for help, the proper amount of assistance can be applied. This should range from doing nothing to doing very little. Thanks to Mayor Richard M(idget) Daley, the climate in the city is anti-police. The Daley’s always believed in the philosophy of rule it, or ruin it. JFK, who by today standards would be considered a neocon, once recited a poem about soldiers, that could be applied to police officers:
God and the Police Officer,
All men adore,
In times of danger,
And not before,
When the danger is gone,
And all things are righted,
God is forgotten,
And the Police Officer is slighted.
God Bless America, don’t let the DemocRATS ruin it.
4/17/2008 05:01:00 AM
You right wing so called conservatives are really funny. Really funny in a sad way that is. You folks (including you SCC) support policies that are directly against your self-interests and are pretty damn proud of it. Why do you have job security, a pension, generous vacations, etc...???? Oh yeah, the Republicans provided you with those benefits right? Go do some research and make a cogent argument why any working person ought to support the Republican party? I am not saying that the Democrats are really great for us but look at the two choices and which one is the best choice for working class folks (yes, my fellow police officers, we are indeed the working class)? The choice is pretty obvious. But if you so desire, then you are entitled to vote and rant against your own self-interests if you choose. The beauty of America, LOL, LOL.
F*CK Neil Steinberg. Damn, I love this entry, way to call him out! I want SCC to know that I have been arguing with my animal rights co-workers about the shooting and defending the police. I sent them your post yesterday and it shut them right up...
someone call the wife, maybe she wants to sign complaints again....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic news flash*** P.P.O. N.P. 3rd watch in 025 did it again. He got into another car accident. When will this goof learn? I heard that before joining CPD he never drove and bought his car two weeks into the academy in January 2007!
4/17/2008 01:21:00 AM
Listen you fuckin idiot. And listen real good you fucking moron. I work in 025 the third watch. My impression of P.P.O. N.P. is that he is a work in progress (just like most of the other P.P.O.'s and any other P.O. with less than five years on this job) and his driving skills suck. But he is a good guy and continues to do his best so he can improve himself. There are some new kids who just don't care, but at least this guy does care and wants to improve himself. What sucks is that people like you wait until he goofs up and then you AMPLIFY his mistakes by calling your friends in other districts and posting stuff on this board. You need to get a life and worry about yourself and not others. I am an old timer, if I don't have something nice to say, I keep it to myself. If I can give advice and help the new kids out, then I am more than happy to help the new kids out and this P.P.O. is very conducive to that. So instead of discouraging the new guys who come to this job why don't you encourage them instead? Is that too damn hard for you?
+ Hey Neil !! Go Fuck Yourself you wet brained piece of shit !!!
11:45
C'mon man, you know why she was there? She was meeting with her pharmacy man...to get the little red pills she's been spotted taking by secretaries in 003. CW caught her and was immediately informed that they were head therapy pills. You know, the pills to supposedly take care of her migraines. Teah right boss...try again!
The ONLY reason why she would be hanging out at 62/Cottage out of uniform is to get Ecstasy!!! She's just another animal we have to deal with in CPD.
This is our Cmdr in 003. How lucky we are? Get fucked Cmdr Crump-Hale!!!
I met Clifford Kelly about 27 years ago at Chuck D's restaurant on Lincoln Ave. He was a piece of shit then and he's a piece of shit now.
Heard that A/F (196) pre madonna's are loosing their cars.
Boo Hoo, cry me a fucking river.
Bunch of do nothing, monday thru friday, two hour lunch eating, waste of space organisims. Unit is filled with a bunch of Cline/Starks people who have never done police work. Why do you need a car anyway? To drive to and from work? J/O your the best! Thanks!
If you fucks don't like it leave!
Burn your own gas now M/E.
You were useless in TRU, DOC and same in A/F.
How about a post listing everything we know about these media scums and politicians....There was a certain local female anchor, now at a liberal national station who liked bad boys so much and was mentioned several times by one of these bad boys on tapes gotten in taps by Narcotics...Tapes were not released as a favor..And if J-fed doesn't settle down, we are investigators right? With his past there must be skeletons...You know fair is fair and did you ever notice it's those with the power who say "oh don't take it outside the department" blah blah blah..Right now it's the only leverage we have. I also love the idea a poster wrote a week or so ago. Write the international Olympic committee, as a citizen not an officer, telling them why Daley and his cronies can't handle the Olympics...Fuck them all...
What is the homicide total so far this year?
I thought SCC was going to have a runnng total on the main page?
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Congrats to the coppers who graduated yesterday. Keep your ears and eyes open and yer mouths shut! We've ALL been where you are now even if some of us can't remember that far back. We're your brothers and sisters in blue, we all stand together.
Good luck and don't forget you are the POLICE now. Don't ever take any shit.
SCC YOU ROCK
An eye for a poke. Kinda harsh.
One cheap shot deserves another:
Hey Neil, Saw that picture of you and your kid doing the polar plunge, a couple of months back. What do you feed that kid, nothing but twinkies. Why don't you spare his self-esteem and help him join weight watchers.
It is a shame when parents let their children become obese!
Prayers for Robert Sorich and Patrick Slattery
A "somber prayer for two who have been wronged?"
Oh please, give me a break. These people going to jail were CORRUPT! They STOLE jobs rightfully meant for others who might have had a FAIR chance to get them if not for the crooks who populate Bridgeport and think this City is theirs.
4/17/2008 06:35:00 AM
Hail Mayor, Full of Crap
Why did you abandon me
I took the fall
For your evil cabal
And now I’m in for 3
Holy Mayor, Mother of scams
Save me from jail time
Now and at the start of my stretch
Amen
commander of 003 calls for a bunch of cars at 62/cottage. so the entire district shows up. what is going on? she lost her cell phone. mind you she's in her personal car and not in uniform (why and what are you doing there, commander)? so the district searches everywhere and everyone. eventually someone ends up finding it on some kid.
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Next she'll be asking you to pick up tampons for her.
---not a cop
I had to send this comment to Mr. Steinberg via one of his other columns, because the sleazy SOB is blocking comments to his cougar article. Anyway, I sent this attached to one of his other horseshit columns.
..Regarding your cougar column the other day. I read SCC. You Mr. Steinberg are a scumbag of the highest order.You are the reason most readers are fed up with the "Media." A Chicago Ridge, not a Cop, and soon to cancel my subscription, Sun Times reader.
Anonymous said...
Why so sensitive? No need to retaliate with personal attacks on Neil. Attack his work, column but not his family. Why lower yourself to the media level? I laughed at his column and considered the source.
4/17/2008 06:03:00 AM
Nice try Niel, but the truth hurts.
Why so sensitive? No need to retaliate with personal attacks on Neil. Attack his work, column but not his family. Why lower yourself to the media level? I laughed at his column and considered the source.
4/17/2008 06:03:00 AM
How about when he beat his wife, the Times kept it quiet, gave him a vacation and then allowed him to take up an article giving HIS homogenized version of what happened.
What goes around, comes around.
And if he actually punched his wife in the face, that's pitiful. He must have been reaaaaallllly fucked up.
posted on suntimes.com
hey, neil. don't you remember cline proudly stating he has had 100 officers prosecuted and fired. oh, wait, you must not read your own paper. and the scum-times also reported that up to 12 officers are testifying angainst finnigan. you must have missed that article too. or maybe you're showing that the scum-times isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
If you coppers wanted to beat the shit out of the couger instead of shooting it, I'll show you how.
Neil Steinberg
Don't have to attack Neil's family, he does that all by himself. Yes Neil, modern living through alcohol, great isn't it.
Prohibition Jody, Is Neil allowed to keep drinking?
just heard mayor mumbles on the Channel 5 news at 5:00 PM, DEFENDING William Ayres. mayor mumbles is a piece of shit.
FEDERAL AGENTS armed with search warrants took computers, paper records and other srtifacts from both Midway and O'Hare Airport police law enforcement offices. The targeted time in which the alleged misconduct was conducted would of been under Commaner James Carroll's period of commander there. I guess that stuff about Carroll was true that was posted on the blog!
hey neil steinberg, when you were dropping a deuce at the airport and you knocked three times on the stall to alert the guy next to you, did you give a reach around poofta.
I work in 016 and I transfered in from ghetto district to help ptrotect homefront. I will admit there are SOME real police here but for the most part they are handjobs that don't have any cncept of police work. When W.C. informs us crime on some beats, yes 1611 and 1612, is up some 400 percent they just laugh. It's a fuckin joke. All you real police quit bitching about coppers here and come help us few that work here. I will admit 90 percent of these handjob coppers are a discrace to the badge, like the female on mids that was kicked out of 014 for running and locking herself in car as partner was fighting offender, but the few of us do try. Homicides and robberies are going thriough roof but gang and tact teams are detailed to shithole districts. Where is the outrage? New Commander is a prince but he does what he is told by higher ups so don't blame him. Working coppers come to 016 please. You will and are seeing a very big change right next door. Gang chief for OA's lives off NW Highway in Edison Park. Teasers has big Latin King problem and Lascos looks like E2 night club. SE end of district has already fallen!!!!!
anyone hear the insane "shots fired by the police" in 011? you would have thought one of us was being fired upon sending every unit flying to the scene...ah but no..it was just a female officer calling out, as if it were a 10-1, that we shot a dog. nice. it made me embarrassed, yet again, to be a female officer on the job.
HURRAY, SOMEONE HAS THE BALLS TO TELL IT LIKE IT IS.
Anonymous said...
F*CK Neil Steinberg. Damn, I love this entry, way to call him out! I want SCC to know that I have been arguing with my animal rights co-workers about the shooting and defending the police. I sent them your post yesterday and it shut them right up...
4/17/2008 01:13:00 PM
Okay, there is no bigger animal lover than ME, and I am adamantly defending the police officers on this matter. I twas NOT those officer's fault the animal was killed. It was the fault of those lazy, do-nothing buffoons at Animal Care and Control. This was THEIR job and their responsibility. They showed up, did nothing and left. Ann Kent at AC&C should be the one taking the hits on this case. Patronage appointee.
off all these topics.
Am I the only that cares about St. Jude being on the bicycle path of the Planetarium? Can't believe this shit!
Thanks Fat Phil! You ruined every fucking thing jackass!!!!!!
I mean, We loved you!
Remember! The city and the Dept. don't want to piss off the citizens by shutting down Michigan Ave. for an hour. But every other numbskull can demonstrat, protest or whatelse jobless do-nothings do to shut down our street.
Gang chief for OA's lives off NW Highway in Edison Park. Teasers has big Latin King problem and Lascos looks like E2 night club. SE end of district has already fallen!!!!!
4/17/2008 06:09:00 PM 016th plea
Unfortunately, those of us living in 016 have seen the district in action...writing the tax payers up for driving into a one-way alley the wrong way, or for turning into the street they live on (in violation of the 3 to 6pm prohibition); instead of handling the f*cked up traffic, and patrolling the alleys for the gypsy garage burglars that are having a freaking field day while we're at work. WTF?? Protect the homeland? Then do it, 016. That's your job for the moment.
That shots fired call...I thought there was another Cougar.
The officer from 016 hit the nail on the head. Stop bashing the workers. We hate the dogs here just as much as the next guy. Hate it even more when our tac/gang officers are sent to 025/015/011 etc.
Anonymous said...
Off topic news flash*** P.P.O. N.P. 3rd watch in 025 did it again. He got into another car accident. When will this goof learn? I heard that before joining CPD he never drove and bought his car two weeks into the academy in January 2007!
4/17/2008 01:21:00 AM
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I'm sure he had his license when he had his background investigation. However, if this is the third traffic accident in his short career, they ought let the guy go, sounds like a huge liability.
sgt. saunders said...
I met Clifford Kelly about 27 years ago at Chuck D's restaurant on Lincoln Ave. He was a piece of shit then and he's a piece of shit now.
4/17/2008 01:53:00 PM
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that was the 2350 Pub on Lincoln Ave....great hang out for cops and nurses.
I'm not saying this is true, but when you imply that a Chicago cop hasn't planted a gun in 20 years, I gotta laugh...A simple google search brought up a number of examples.....
"On August 6th 2007, 18-year-old Aaron Harrison was enjoying a summer night hanging out in front of the corner store at Roosevelt and Francisco on the West Side of Chicago when the police rolled up. A few minutes later, Aaron was dead, fatally shot in the back by the Chicago police, who claimed he pointed a gun at them. Witnesses insisted that Aaron didn’t have a gun, and multiple witnesses reported seeing police take a bag out of the trunk of a police car and plant a gun near Aaron’s body. Read more about the killing here and here and here."
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Are you KIDDING me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are a moron if you believe everything you read in these papers!!!!!! DUMBASS!!!!!!!!!
Can Somebody please elaborate on what happened in 011 with "Shots Fired By The Police"?What watch?Which female?
anyone hear the insane "shots fired by the police" in 011? you would have thought one of us was being fired upon sending every unit flying to the scene...ah but no..it was just a female officer calling out, as if it were a 10-1, that we shot a dog. nice. it made me embarrassed, yet again, to be a female officer on the job.
4/17/2008 06:09:00 PM
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Was it that idiot Cassie?
From the Trib. #24 was just about to turnt his life around. He was at his last toss of the dice at his last crap game. How sad. Kinda like Gen. George Patton.
Anonymous said...
as of 16 apr 2008 1957hrs city homicides at:
citywide:102
leading district(s):
007--10
002--7
010--9
011--9
008--6
009--7
015--9
025--8
4/16/2008 11:56:00 PM
Guess I-Clear isn't updated yet. as far as i know 010 and 011 both have 10 a piece also
4/17/2008 08:59:00 AM
What's the over-under for 2008?
I'm a longtime reader, longtime employee of the CPD but tonight I say goodbye to SCC - this is a pathetic post and your sad attempt at humor violates the very tenants of the AA program with your blatent disregard for anonymity. Talk about glass houses....
Any truth to the rumor that the charismatic Janice Robarts-Dillon will replace the imbecile Crump-Hales?
01:09- That is an old, intelectually lazy argument put forth in Thomas Franks' "What's The Matter With Kansas." If Daley offered every city worker a 100% raise, it would be great for a couple paychecks. Then the city and our pension system would go bankrupt. France tried having super powerful labor unions, early pensioned retirements and 32 hour workweeks. It was great for a couple months for the people who benefited. It sucked for the thousands it forced into unemployment and the economy it ruined. While many CPD are underpaid, many of our co-workers (likely you) are overpaid, lazy benefits of a broken system. How do we fix moral? Get a union with a voice who can communicate with the city half as well as SCC can. Tort reform in Springfield now. Shrink government. Trim the fat like you first. Learn to read- and I mean something other than Obama's talking points.
j-fed at rollcall in 16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLsg0EvZozI
anonymous said...
Heard that A/F (196) pre madonna's are loosing their cars...
4/17/2008 02:10:00 PM
Pre madonna's? God help us.
You young boys don't remember Ol Alderman Clifford Kelly. Way back in the late 60s or early 70s he was suspect 1 in the murder of a white waitress, polish girl if I remember right, she worked at the old Milt Trenier's lounge at 600 N. Lake Shore Dr. He gave her a ride home and she turned up dead in Washington park. I forget who the chief of homicide was, but he personally interviewed him and determined that he was innocent, but that's the Chicago way. The alderway......
Hey guys, Isn't that priest who prays for Sorich, et al, going to be our cahaplain when Nangle retires? Please stay as long as possible Fr. Tom. We don't need a Flaky Flager.
What about the guy who was shot & killed at 48th & Drexel? Wasn't that a homicide?
I'm a longtime reader, longtime employee of the CPD but tonight I say goodbye to SCC - this is a pathetic post and your sad attempt at humor violates the very tenants of the AA program with your blatent disregard for anonymity. Talk about glass houses....
There was nothing humorous intended about this post. This was an out-and-out "Fuck You" to Neil Steinberg. As for the "blatant disregard for anonymity," Steinberg's arrest, conviction and sentence is a matter of public record - including the portion about alcohol counseling. Fuck him and shame on you for attempting to make it something it obviously isn't. How about taking him to task for painting 10,000 officers with a LIE that has never ever been proven in court.
You are truly the walking talking definition of an asshat.
'Sun-Times' Columnist Steinberg Charged With Domestic Battery
By E&P Staff
Publication: Editor & Publisher
Date: Saturday, October 1 2005
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Chicago Sun-Times columnist Neil Steinberg was arrested and charged with domestic battery after allegedly striking his wife, the newspaper reported Saturday.
Steinberg writes editorials and a thrice-weekly column for the Sun-Times. His column did not appear in Friday's paper. A note said he was "taking the day off." Steinberg also writes a gossip column for
Steinberg was arrested late Wednesday at his Northbrook, Ill., home, according to the story by staff reporter Shamus Toomey.
The story quoted a Northbrook police officer as saying Steinberg was charged with domestic battery and also with interfering with the reporting of domestic battery, for allegedly taking a phone away from his wife to prevent her calling the police.
After appearing in court Thursday, Steinberg was released on his own recognizance on the two misdemeanor charges, according to police.
The story quoted the police officer as saying Steinberg's wife of 15 years had a visual injury, but did not require hospitalization.
"I'm deeply humiliated to have brought this misfortune on my family, and am eager to do what is necessary to set it right," Steinberg told the Sun-Times Friday.
The paper quoted Steinberg as saying he had been drinking before the incident, and will enter alcohol counseling Monday.
"We hope for the best for Neil and his family," said Sun-Times Editor John Barron
http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Chicago.Sun.Times.2.322934.html
What a pussy!!!!!!!!!
DC dopy of 021 restricts tact and gang teams from going outside district to eat, is this happening in any other district? anyone?
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wrong... dc of 021 cant restrict the 021 gang teams. they do not report to the 021 gang lt or the the 021 dc. they report dirctly to a/1 gang lt and the a/1 deputy.
SCC said...
I'm a longtime reader, longtime employee of the CPD but tonight I say goodbye to SCC - this is a pathetic post and your sad attempt at humor violates the very tenants of the AA program with your blatent disregard for anonymity. Talk about glass houses
Drop Dead!!!!
Blogger Murphy40Pct said...
01:09- That is an old, intelectually lazy argument put forth in Thomas Franks' "What's The Matter With Kansas." If Daley offered every city worker a 100% raise, it would be great for a couple paychecks. Then the city and our pension system would go bankrupt. France tried having super powerful labor unions, early pensioned retirements and 32 hour workweeks. It was great for a couple months for the people who benefited. It sucked for the thousands it forced into unemployment and the economy it ruined. While many CPD are underpaid, many of our co-workers (likely you) are overpaid, lazy benefits of a broken system. How do we fix moral? Get a union with a voice who can communicate with the city half as well as SCC can. Tort reform in Springfield now. Shrink government. Trim the fat like you first. Learn to read- and I mean something other than Obama's talking points.
4/17/2008 10:08:00 PM
I am not advocating that we receive 100% raises. What I am saying is how does it benefit a working class person to vote for a political party that doesn't work for their self interests? You didn't answer my question. I am convinced that people like you (i.e. cops who are proud to be Republicans) are just plain old wanna be's. Oh yes, and then when you have to reply to my argument you spout out the usual "a smaller government", "look at France, they are doing terrible", etc...
I'm a longtime reader, longtime employee of the CPD but tonight I say goodbye to SCC - this is a pathetic post and your sad attempt at humor violates the very tenants of the AA program with your blatent disregard for anonymity. Talk about glass houses....
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I'll drink to that!
The union democrats are long gone idiot. Democrats used to represent the working man and unions but no longer do.remember Clinton pushed through NAFTA and pretty much bent over for China. Nope, most there policies are an albatross to the working man.
I'm not saying this is true, but when you imply that a Chicago cop hasn't planted a gun in 20 years, I gotta laugh...A simple google search brought up a number of examples.....
"On August 6th 2007, 18-year-old Aaron Harrison was enjoying a summer night hanging out in front of the corner store at Roosevelt and Francisco on the West Side of Chicago when the police rolled up. A few minutes later, Aaron was dead, fatally shot in the back by the Chicago police, who claimed he pointed a gun at them. Witnesses insisted that Aaron didn’t have a gun, and multiple witnesses reported seeing police take a bag out of the trunk of a police car and plant a gun near Aaron’s body. Read more about the killing here and here and here."
4/17/2008 12:00:00 PM
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Once again, look at the assholes who read this blog, police haters.
Doctors giving away drugs for sex, atty.'s bottom feeders, etc.
wrong... dc of 021 cant restrict the 021 gang teams. they do not report to the 021 gang lt or the the 021 dc. they report dirctly to a/1 gang lt and the a/1 deputy.
Wrong, they do work for the Commander of their district as well as the watch commander..
News flash 12:09: The democratic party works for 1 class only: People that already are very wealthy and will not be effected by the forces of socialism. If you want to see some closer to home examples of all these Socialist policies Obama and Clinton support- Look at Michigan. You can not tax the world into prosperity. Hand outs keep people poor. Promising unions pensions while you spend it elsewhere then relying on the government to pay it is theft. Next take a walk in Englewood. Of course you probably won't, because being a democrat you hate blacks so much that you must ensure their status as impoverished, victimized little children that need your handouts. Blacks need people like you like they need another liquor store 007. Want a better country? Vote for people who believe in personal responsibility. Socialism works against everyone's self interest but the party elite. Socialist ideas are looting this city, looting this county, looting this state, and looting this country. Voting Democrat because you think it's the best way to get your piece of the pie (when the opposite is true) is just speeding the process and hurting the poor, struggling people who deserve the chance that America can give them. I am a "wanna be." I wanna live in a country free of racist, anti-freedom retards like you.
9:43, I believe you meant tenet's, not tenant's. Neil is not truly working his AA program, or he would not write the drivel that he does. Noone was making fun of AA, just neil.
wrong... dc of 021 cant restrict the 021 gang teams. they do not report to the 021 gang lt or the the 021 dc. they report dirctly to a/1 gang lt and the a/1 deputy.
NOT TRUE. the officers on that Gang team are all assigned to 021.
As are their cars. Once in a while, the Deputy Chiefs give them assignments that override whatever the D/C would need or expect them to do in the District, but the majority of the time, they work for, and answer to, their respective District Commanders.
Anyone who would want to get into a pissing contest over an order from their Commander would only do so if they don't mind some unpaid days off. That is all.
"commander of 003 calls for a bunch of cars at 62/cottage. so the entire district shows up. what is going on? she lost her cell phone. mind you she's in her personal car and not in uniform (why and what are you doing there, commander)? so the district searches everywhere and everyone. eventually someone ends up finding it on some kid."
Offhand, I'd say the lady had a good plan, and used all the resources available to her, if this post is on the level. She got the phone back!
anonymous said...
What about the guy who was shot & killed at 48th & Drexel? Wasn't that a homicide?
4/17/2008 10:53:00 PM
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He likely was just a neighborhood mope, not worth mentioning and not missed.
On the other hand, if he had been a CPS student, even a recent dropout, attending a dice game for his own amusement while "trying to get his life together" after numerous narcotic arrests, at age 17, then there would have been a huge outcry. The poor baby they would say, he wasn't even in a gang, such a nice boy, he went to school a few days last year even. Sheeeeeit, he deserved better.
The poor mope at 48th and Drexel was probably beyond getting his life together, he likely was into getting his 40 ouncer morning, noon and night to forget what a mess he made of his life.
I hate hearing that crap about its not the boss' fault because he is only doing what he is told. Is that what a boss of any rank is supposed to be - a puppet?
F that. Open your mouth and put up a valid and intelligent argument. Uhoh, I think I just answered my own question....
The Cold Case Squad should take a second look at the homicide of the lady found dead in Jackson Park in 1980.
Clifford Kelley stated to the detectives at the time "I would like to tell you what happened but my attorney will not allow it".
Maybe there is physical evidence that will allow the investigation to move forward.
anonymous said...
What a massive handjob!! It's kinda funny that people with the most problems like to criticize others to deflect their personal problems away from them. You look like a wife beater, nitwit.
I'm gonna have a big drink of ETOH for you, you miserable, alcoholic assh*le.
ETOH = Ethyl alcohol for all the Neil Steinberg's out there.
4/16/2008 11:43:00 PM
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Now isn't that something, a Chicago copper with the balls to criticize someone in AA, after going through treatment, for being a miserable drunk assh*le.
Not like there are any CPD who fit in that category, hmmmm?
Not the lunk who beat the bartender, not the tact team who beat some yuppies, not the tact guy who beat a reckelss homicide rap in 019 after driving drunk and getting into an accident that killed two. Oh that guy was a fine upstanding officer, the accident wasn't his fault, he beat the case too. Maybe the next time JA won't be so lucky, then he can be skewered on this blog as being a miserable alcoholic assh*le.
It seems to me that Chicago Police Officers, as a group, would be the very last group of individuals to throw stones at someone who got in trouble drinking. Coppers get away with so fucking much, especially drunk coppers, but that is changing now, isn't it?
My entire career I've been watching coppers get in shit for being themselves miserable alcoholic assh*les. They get a second, third, fourth and even more chances. A recently retired cop got at least four cracks at alcoholic treatment but there he sat at a retirement gathering slugging down his hard liquor once again.
Please understand I'm not defending Neil Steinberg.
I'm defending alcoholics who try to get sober and stay sober. And a whole bunch of Chicago Police Officers fall into that category as well as Neil Steinberg.
As for those who would criticize that, a great big fuck you back at ya'.
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f%^ck you democrat lover! i bet your voting for huessan barac obama(don't care how to spell that piece of sh%ts name)
SCC said...
I'm a longtime reader, longtime employee of the CPD but tonight I say goodbye to SCC - this is a pathetic post and your sad attempt at humor violates the very tenants of the AA program with your blatent disregard for anonymity. Talk about glass houses
Drop Dead!!!!
GOOD RIDDANCE! just because you cant handle a drink, or have no self control doesnt mean it is untouchable grounds... Just because Bill W says it is sanctimonious grounds doesnt mean I cant rip on the weak! Fuck you... and since Im RDO when I get hammered later, Ill think of you weak ass punk!
What I am saying is how does it benefit a working class person to vote for a political party that doesn't work for their self interests?
I don't know how does it benefit a working class person to vote for a political party that doesn't work for their self interests? Lets see how the elitist democrat Obama would work for your self interests...
The Wall Street Journal’s Steve
Moore says Obama’s tax plan would add up to a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent estate tax. In other words, Sen. Obama is a very-high-tax candidate. Whether Wall Street has fully discounted this, I have no idea. Probably not yet. But somebody in the investor class ought to be thinking about it, because it’s not good.
let me know how thats working for you..............
You right wing so called conservatives are really funny. Really funny in a sad way that is. You folks (including you SCC) support policies that are directly against your self-interests and are pretty damn proud of it. Why do you have job security, a pension, generous vacations, etc...???? Oh yeah, the Republicans provided you with those benefits right? Go do some research and make a cogent argument why any working person ought to support the Republican party? I am not saying that the Democrats are really great for us but look at the two choices and which one is the best choice for working class folks (yes, my fellow police officers, we are indeed the working class)? The choice is pretty obvious. But if you so desire, then you are entitled to vote and rant against your own self-interests if you choose. The beauty of America, LOL, LOL.
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Here is my response to your post asking why would I vote republican. The philosophy with which the republican party is supposed to follow is that your life is no one's responsibility other than your own. The government should not interfere in your private life (smaller government) unless absolutely necessary. To many people today seem to think that the government can fix their problems and make everything ok. No one wants to take responsibility when they make mistakes (its' someone else's fault). Our vacations until you reach the 10 year mark aren't that generous. People who work in private business and negotiate their vacation time (yes private businesses do negotiate benefits)tend to have time similar to ours. As far as having a pension...wake up. Your supposed Democrats are not funding their portion of our pension. Look at your paycheck. Nearly $600 a month of your take home pay is forcefully removed from your paycheck and put into the pension program without the city making the contribution they are supposed to. As far as I am concerned, my wife and I are not counting on having a pension when I retire from this department. I make it a point to invest each month so that I can actually retire. All you have to do is look at what has happened to the CTA. Reduced benefits, and later retirment. I bet they never thought that could happen under Democrats. Wake up. No one is repsponsible for your life but yourself. Don't cry when things get difficult. Change them yourself. Don't whine that the "government" isn't doing enought to help you.
Anonymous said..................
You didn't answer my question. I am convinced that people like you (i.e. cops who are proud to be Republicans) are just plain old wanna be's. Oh yes, and then when you have to reply to my argument you spout out the usual "a smaller government", "look at France, they are doing terrible", etc...
Look, You obviously have more money and time on your hands then me. And that just isin't fair. So take out your wallet and hand over every dime that you "WORKED" for and lets split it up between us till we are even. Your not allowed to get paid more or save for the future of your self or your family because then you'd have more and that isnt fair. Oh, and if your parents happened to have saved any money and they die, we'll split that up between you and me to. Why should I go to school or work hard to get ahead since we are going to share everything. Since you work I will not. Lets split up everything including your house. You take the outside, I'll take the inside.
Dummycraps believe.............
1) Jail is a place for rehab.
2) Taxes are paid mainly to take from the rich and give to the poor with social programs, They call them entitlements.
3) A person who acheives wealth or furtune though hard work, study, or practice had an unfair advantage to people who do not.
Republicans believe...........
1) Jail is for punishment.
2) Taxes are to pay mainly for infestructure and defense. NOT WELFARE (entitlements)
3) A person who does not work, study, or practice is LAZY.
Now keep voting for the elitist Dummycraps and I'll just have to learn to be lazy (which will be hard work) and wait for my government handout WELFARE link card to be filled every month. Because it will be your fault and you'll owe it to me for becoming what you wanted.
10:37pm
The Chief of Detectives who gave Ald. Cliff Kelly a pass on a murder was probably Hanhardt. Don't look for Cold Case to re-check. They won't be allowed to. Not their fault. They will be steered in another direction. That's the Chicago Way. Just hope the Feebs take a look.
04/15/2008 09:07 AM Anonymous said
...As far as having a pension...wake up. Your supposed Democrats are not funding their portion of our pension. Look at your paycheck. Nearly $600 a month of your take home pay is forcefully removed from your paycheck and put into the pension program without the city making the contribution they are supposed to....
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Relative to this part of a larger post: For the year ending 12/31/2006, the latest Pension Board Annual Report that I can find, the employer's (City of Chicago) contributions were $157,689,286. I con't remember if the the report ending 2007 has been published yet, but is there any evidence, other than apocryphal, that the city is withholding contributing its share? As far as individual contributions are concerned, you must remember that you are not paying into Social Security, as does nearly everyone else, at a rate of 6 percent or so, I think. Believe me, after 8+ years of retirement, and with many retired friends from other walks of life, this pension is a much etter deal than SS. The emphasis right now should be on changing the employer/employee contribution schedule to enable it to be properly funded.
To the guy who pulled up the nonsense on the " drop gun" on google.
The person that was shot was running the dope spot, his uncle is probably one of the 3 or 4 biggest gang leaders ( and dope dealer) on the west side. That spot was the biggest spot in 011 years ago. The hypes would line up 50 deep some days. So much for your research. Been there.
old retired guy
I'm not sure if "sanctimonious" is really the word you are looking for, but you sure love it.
HIDDEN MESSAGE: Sanctimonious is getting old. And it's an awfully haughty word for a police blog. Asshat is old too. Can't we try out some new words?
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Thanks for the lesson in journalism, Neil...It's good to see all that literary experience being put to use
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You right wing so called conservatives are really funny. Really funny in a sad way that is. You folks (including you SCC) support policies that are directly against your self-interests and are pretty damn proud of it. Why do you have job security, a pension, generous vacations, etc...???? Oh yeah, the Republicans provided you with those benefits right? Go do some research and make a cogent argument why any working person ought to support the Republican party? I am not saying that the Democrats are really great for us but look at the two choices and which one is the best choice for working class folks (yes, my fellow police officers, we are indeed the working class)? The choice is pretty obvious. But if you so desire, then you are entitled to vote and rant against your own self-interests if you choose. The beauty of America, LOL, LOL.
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Here is my response to your post asking why would I vote republican. The philosophy with which the republican party is supposed to follow is that your life is no one's responsibility other than your own. The government should not interfere in your private life (smaller government) unless absolutely necessary. To many people today seem to think that the government can fix their problems and make everything ok. No one wants to take responsibility when they make mistakes (its' someone else's fault). Our vacations until you reach the 10 year mark aren't that generous. People who work in private business and negotiate their vacation time (yes private businesses do negotiate benefits)tend to have time similar to ours. As far as having a pension...wake up. Your supposed Democrats are not funding their portion of our pension. Look at your paycheck. Nearly $600 a month of your take home pay is forcefully removed from your paycheck and put into the pension program without the city making the contribution they are supposed to. As far as I am concerned, my wife and I are not counting on having a pension when I retire from this department. I make it a point to invest each month so that I can actually retire. All you have to do is look at what has happened to the CTA. Reduced benefits, and later retirment. I bet they never thought that could happen under Democrats. Wake up. No one is repsponsible for your life but yourself. Don't cry when things get difficult. Change them yourself. Don't whine that the "government" isn't doing enought to help you.
4/18/2008 09:07:00 AM
Oh the usual "Republicans stand for small government, fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility, lower taxation, etc....". God you are full of it. Look at the FACTS. Under Republican leadership spending is out of control (excluding the costs of the two wars and the general war on terror), government intrusion into private lives is greater than ever before (the so called laws designed to defeat terrorism is more targeted to American citizens than some Middle Easter terrorist), the national debt has doubled under Bush's tenure and Republican control of Congress and the Federal Reserve bailed out Bear Stearns and the Fed continues to devalue the dollar so they can save private banks while the cost of goods keep rising (i.e. that is what happens when a central bank prints money/expands credit. Too much money chasing a fixed amount of goods sends the price of goods to go way up in value. All of that is great for debt ridden corporations since that devalues their debt but not for anyone who works for a living because inflation is out of control because of their reckless fiscal policies). So after my above argument, if you still think that the Republicans are the party of personal responsibility, fiscal responsibility, individual responsibility??? I don't think so!! I am not saying the Democrats are all that, but out of the two alternatives, they are the better choice for a working person. But I wish you the best of luck and I hope you enjoy voting against your own interest!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What I am saying is how does it benefit a working class person to vote for a political party that doesn't work for their self interests?
I don't know how does it benefit a working class person to vote for a political party that doesn't work for their self interests? Lets see how the elitist democrat Obama would work for your self interests...
The Wall Street Journal’s Steve
Moore says Obama’s tax plan would add up to a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent estate tax. In other words, Sen. Obama is a very-high-tax candidate. Whether Wall Street has fully discounted this, I have no idea. Probably not yet. But somebody in the investor class ought to be thinking about it, because it’s not good.
let me know how thats working for you..............
4/18/2008 09:00:00 AM
I love you cops who think that you are part of the "investor class" or Bush's "ownership society". I think you are part of "the wanna be class that pretends to be rich". Why does it matter to you if Obama decides to increase the top level of taxation? Oh, you must be so damn rich but you put on that uniform because you are bored.
Now isn't that something, a Chicago copper with the balls to criticize someone in AA, after going through treatment, for being a miserable drunk assh*le.
Not like there are any CPD who fit in that category, hmmmm?
Not the lunk who beat the bartender, not the tact team who beat some yuppies, not the tact guy who beat a reckelss homicide rap in 019 after driving drunk and getting into an accident that killed two. Oh that guy was a fine upstanding officer, the accident wasn't his fault, he beat the case too. Maybe the next time JA won't be so lucky, then he can be skewered on this blog as being a miserable alcoholic assh*le.
It seems to me that Chicago Police Officers, as a group, would be the very last group of individuals to throw stones at someone who got in trouble drinking. Coppers get away with so fucking much, especially drunk coppers, but that is changing now, isn't it?
My entire career I've been watching coppers get in shit for being themselves miserable alcoholic assh*les. They get a second, third, fourth and even more chances. A recently retired cop got at least four cracks at alcoholic treatment but there he sat at a retirement gathering slugging down his hard liquor once again.
Please understand I'm not defending Neil Steinberg.
I'm defending alcoholics who try to get sober and stay sober. And a whole bunch of Chicago Police Officers fall into that category as well as Neil Steinberg.
As for those who would criticize that, a great big fuck you back at ya'.
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4/18/2008 07:14:00 A
BOY DID YOU MISS THE POINT!
FIRST OF ALL, THE ARTICLE WAS IN RESPONSE TO STEINBERG'S ACCUSATION THAT COPS ARE PLANTING ILLEGAL HANDGUNS ON OFFENDERS AFTER THEY ARE INVOLVED IN A SHOOTOUT WITH THE POLICE.
SECOND: You proved yet another point that frustrates police officers. I am a CPD officer. I have NEVER taken anything that doesn't belong to me, beat anyone, planted a handgun or narcotics, but if a scumbag offender accused me of any of the above, people like you believe it hands down. No proof necessary! I have had to struggle with offenders to place them under arrest, and I have had to assert a level of control above the offender, but that would be viewed by people like you as abuse.
Third, when did police officers waive their right of Innocent until proven guilty! In the case of accused officers, we have to prove our innocense. That is in direct violation of OUR (all citizens) constitution.
When reporters consider any and all police officers as fair game to elicit a chuckle, and goat the reading public into believing we are guilty (before any trial or court proceedings) they are violating our rights! They deserve the same treatment in return.
We as officers, do respect the AA which has provided a needy service to some within our ranks (as well as within the ranks of Dr.'s, lawyers, firemen, nurses, teachers, etc.), but when you come out swinging at innocent folks, they are justified in swinging back.
So now! FUCK YOU!!!
Off topic news flash*** P.P.O. N.P. 3rd watch in 025 did it again. He got into another car accident. When will this goof learn? I heard that before joining CPD he never drove and bought his car two weeks into the academy in January 2007!
4/17/2008 01:21:00 AM
he will be the commanding officer of peak performance soon.
To 2:19
Since I am "wanna be" rich can you explain why my wife can't fund our Roths because our agi was over 150k? I have over 400k in investments because we work hard and save our money. I am 45 with 16 years on job and a paid off home that is worth three times what I paid for it. If it wasn't for the taxrates your average copper could be very well off with a little investing and saving.
The context he used to mention the drop gun was obviously tongue in cheek. It was no more offensive than a donut joke.
Heard 'em all, all the stereotypes and I don't give a flying fuck or take offense....except when it's the Reverends talking that shit, cuz they believe it.
FOR 4/17/2008 06:09:00 PM 016 Dist.
Tell Rambo to get his junk out of the dwarf and help you.
Unfortunately, those of us living in 016 have seen the district in action...writing the tax payers up for driving into a one-way alley the wrong way, or for turning into the street they live on (in violation of the 3 to 6pm prohibition); instead of handling the f*cked up traffic, and patrolling the alleys for the gypsy garage burglars that are having a freaking field day while we're at work. WTF?? Protect the homeland? Then do it, 016. That's your job for the moment.
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That was the guy's point, he knows the 16th dist coppers he works with are a joke and wants working cops to protect the area where WE live....we are going off to fight a battle somewhere else meanwhile the enemy is creeping in our own back yard!
Hey, leave the AA people out of this. We think Neils a jerkoff too. We're just drunks trying to stay sober, we aren't beating anyone or fronting off entire trades of working people. Jokes that hurt people that are already under the gun aren't amusing. The police are definately under the gun. It's easy to kick a guy when he's down, an act perpetrated by the weak. This is the time for all true friends of police to stand and be counted. Write letters to the Mayor, Police supt, FBI Boss, Gov, Newspapers, etc and support the police.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To 2:19
Since I am "wanna be" rich can you explain why my wife can't fund our Roths because our agi was over 150k? I have over 400k in investments because we work hard and save our money. I am 45 with 16 years on job and a paid off home that is worth three times what I paid for it. If it wasn't for the taxrates your average copper could be very well off with a little investing and saving.
4/18/2008 09:07:00 PM
So you and your wife make over 150K and you have 400K in savings/investment. Well you are still a "wanna be" because then why do you still work? Try to see what happens to your 400K investments/savings if you quit. You are still part of the working class my man, get used to it. Oh, my investments and savings are very good (I don't want to disclose them here on this board) but my perspective is that we should do our share to help others out because one day we may need a little help too. Please don't take that last statement as "oh, so he believes in government hand outs". I think the government should give a helping hand (a hand up if you will) but definitely not a hand down because that doesn't teach personal responsibility and encourages more reckless behavior. The reason why you and your wife can not fund your Roth IRA is because that is what the IRS and or Congress decided. If you don't like it, then contact your representatives and let them know how you feel but don't whine about it. Oh, don't forget that the so called high tax rates you are ranting and raving about pay most of your salary (the top one percent of income earners in America pay almost 30% of the taxes). But you would want to decrease tax rates for the very rich, so who will make up that large 30% share of taxes paid?
Listen you fuckin idiot. And listen real good you fucking moron. I work in 025 the third watch. My impression of P.P.O. N.P. is that he is a work in progress (just like most of the other P.P.O.'s and any other P.O. with less than five years on this job) and his driving skills suck. But he is a good guy and continues to do his best so he can improve himself. There are some new kids who just don't care, but at least this guy does care and wants to improve himself.
Signed,
P.P.O. N.P. :-)
BTW,
You lefties should have no problem punching or seeing John McCain as President,he is after all a Leftist Liberal too.
: What do you think you've learned about life in the media since you've had your arrest and been through treatment/rehab — and how has that affected how you approach your work?
NS: It's ... I don't know that it has. People accuse me of being a better writer now, but I'm not going to say that. I'd like to think I was kind of sympathetic and all that.
In AA people are always saying, "Oh, the leaves are changing, we never noticed that when we were drunks." I always noticed the changes, I wasn't someone who ... who ... that's a tough question.
C: Well, let's put it this way — what was it like being on the inside looking out rather than on the outside looking in?
NS: It was nauseating.
I remember when the Tribune ran me across five columns of type in this 48-point headline like it was a school fire — it was very disconcerting for me. Not that I felt they shouldn't be printing it. And this is the really strange thing, and I don't know if it can be said in print, is that in a way it helped me professionally.
At least the paper here, I'm the third stringer. So to see what a big deal it was, in the Tribune, that the local TV stations led with it, I think I kind of caught their attention in a weird way. It's like Bill Mauldin — you always felt bad he benefitted from World War II — I'm not saying it helped my career, but that's why I went to four columns a week.
This is from an interview of his,March 27, 2007
Interview: Sun-Times Columnist Neil Steinberg. Sounds remorseful doesn't he. Brags about how beating his wife helped his career. A real piece of shit.
I love you cops who think that you are part of the "investor class" or Bush's "ownership society". I think you are part of "the wanna be class that pretends to be rich". Why does it matter to you if Obama decides to increase the top level of taxation? Oh, you must be so damn rich but you put on that uniform because you are bored.
4/18/2008 02:19:00 PM
This is the democratic tax motto"Don't tax you... don't tax me... tax the fellow behind the tree."What happens is that taxes don't stop, they simply increase or extend(because they don't index your income for inflation example AMT) AMT was suppose to catch the wealthy who had lots of deductions however they didn't index it for inflation so now 10's of millions of Americans are subject to the AMT. It may seem that they are only going to tax the wealthy (Which by the way is only a small portion of thetax base in the US)...the reality is that they(Especially the Democrats) never stop and the middle class becomes fair game...these taxes have a way of extending beyond the evil rich and leveling themselves square in the middle class pocketbook. if the democrats win in 2009 the largest tax increase in the history of the United States will take place and it will plunge the country into a recession. What triggered the great depression 1.) raised taxes 2.) Smoot-Hawley Act-which raised the tarrifs on International trade.(both actions ar promised to us by the democratic party elite.) Taxes effect the general and international economy. And as for owning stock...you might not personally own stock but your pension plan does..do you want your pension solvent in 20 years? Pension funds invest in stocks and bonds ..tax these and you detract from the value...which equals less of a payout...Chicago is choking under a wave of taxes...county and city and now we are suppose to endure federal increase..you would have to be really...really...stupid to believe for one second that Barack obama has a plan thats just going to tax other people and that it won't effect you...
Only The Rich Pay Taxes
Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.03% of Income Taxes
October 10, 2003
There is new data for 2001. The share of total income taxes paid by the top 1% fell to 33.89% from 37.42% in 2000. This is mainly because their income share (not just wages) fell from 20.81% to 17.53%. However, their average tax rate actually rose slightly from 27.45% to 27.50%.
*Data covers calendar year 2001, not fiscal year 2001 - and includes all income, not just wages, excluding Social Security
This proves that it was not the tax cut that caused revenues from the rich to fall, but the recession and the stock market crash. In other words, you live by the sword, you die by the sword. If you are going to benefit from the rich paying more taxes, due to progressivity, on the upside, you are going to lose more revenue from these people on the downside. This is a good argument for reducing progressivity.
Think of it this way: less than four dollars out of every $100 paid in income taxes in the United States is paid by someone in the bottom 50% of wage earners. Are the top half millionaires? Noooo, more like "thousandaires." The top 50% were those individuals or couples filing jointly who earned $26,000 and up in 1999. (The top 1% earned $293,000-plus.) Americans who want to are continuing to improve their lives - and those who don't want to, aren't. Here are the wage earners in each category and the percentages they pay:
Top 5% pay 53.25% of all income taxes (Down from 2000 figure: 56.47%). The top 10% pay 64.89% (Down from 2000 figure: 67.33%). The top 25% pay 82.9% (Down from 2000 figure: 84.01%). The top 50% pay 96.03% (Down from 2000 figure: 96.09%). The bottom 50%? They pay a paltry 3.97% of all income taxes. The top 1% is paying more than ten times the federal income taxes than the bottom 50%! And who earns what? The top 1% earns 17.53 (2000: 20.81%) of all income. The top 5% earns 31.99 (2000: 35.30%). The top 10% earns 43.11% (2000: 46.01%); the top 25% earns 65.23% (2000: 67.15%), and the top 50% earns 86.19% (2000: 87.01%) of all the income.
The Rich Earned Their Dough, They Didn't Inherit It (Except Ted Kennedy)
The bottom 50% is paying a tiny bit of the taxes, so you can't give them much of a tax cut by definition. Yet these are the people to whom the Democrats claim to want to give tax cuts. Remember this the next time you hear the "tax cuts for the rich" business. Understand that the so-called rich are about the only ones paying taxes anymore.
"The Rich Earned Their Dough, They Didn't Inherit It (Except Ted Kennedy)
The bottom 50% is paying a tiny bit of the taxes, so you can't give them much of a tax cut by definition. Yet these are the people to whom the Democrats claim to want to give tax cuts. Remember this the next time you hear the "tax cuts for the rich" business. Understand that the so-called rich are about the only ones paying taxes anymore.
4/19/2008 02:02:00 PM"
Interesting concept, that the wealthy have, as a rule, earned their wealth.
Raises the question, exactly what is the definition of 'earning'?
And the question of precisely how the wealthy 'earn' their wealth?
As in, by what specific means and methods?
Anyone, besides yours truly, want to count the ways......?
Neil Steinberg is a drunken,wife- beating buffoon.
Anonymous said...
"The Rich Earned Their Dough, They Didn't Inherit It (Except Ted Kennedy)
Most rich Americans earned their wealth through a government contract(s).
Has the 3rd District story about Crump-Hales lost phone been confirmed?
If there ever was a story for the media to run with, it sure is in front of them.
Oh, my investments and savings are very good (I don't want to disclose them here on this board) but my perspective is that we should do our share to help others out because one day we may need a little help too.
Its good to know that your investments and savings are very good....with the new estate tax that Obama proposes...you will get your chance to help others out....you see if you and your spouse have worked hard all your lives invested bought property and your estate is worth $2million dollars to your heirs...never fear courtesy of Obama the estate tax will give $400,000.00 of your hard earned dollars to the goverment ....a goverment that has done absolutely nothing to earn that money of yours.....let me know how that works for you.......
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