Back to the Beat?
Another wonderful idea:
- News that isn't being circulated: J-Fed wants to put dicks in uniform for the summer. Rumor has it one week a month. Supposedly detailed to a district, which and how many is up for grabs. Just to curb the expected "rise in crime" for the summer. Peterson is against it, but it'll come down to what Daley wants.
So, it's like a new "Operation Closed Market" but for the Detective Division? Watch that clearance rate bottom out at under 10% for ALL crimes. The word is already out there - if you want to get away with murder, kill someone in Chicago. We guess it's going to expand to robbery, burglary and any manner of crime, too.
Here's the thing - there are about 75 recruits in the Academy right now if our letter writers are to be believed. And we are on pace for 600 retirements again this year. There are no more classes planned until later this year and once they start, the recruits aren't coming out until 2009. So they are reducing the size of the Department drastically. In order to maintain the current force projections is to rob Peter (the D Unit) to pay Paul (Patrol). And the only thing that changes is the clearance rate, the property losses, insurance premiums and god knows what else while the city slowly turns into Detroit.
Here's the thing - there are about 75 recruits in the Academy right now if our letter writers are to be believed. And we are on pace for 600 retirements again this year. There are no more classes planned until later this year and once they start, the recruits aren't coming out until 2009. So they are reducing the size of the Department drastically. In order to maintain the current force projections is to rob Peter (the D Unit) to pay Paul (Patrol). And the only thing that changes is the clearance rate, the property losses, insurance premiums and god knows what else while the city slowly turns into Detroit.
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Chicago 2016 spent $9.2 million to complete the first leg of Mayor Daley’s Olympic journey. It’ll cost $49.3 million to compete on the international stage -- and make it to the finish line.
I think this j-guy might be be bringing us all together!!!
This was not a rumor. While Weiss was out of town his two FBI cronies Burst and Daley dreamed up this idea for the detectives to go, "Back To The Beat." Every detective as supposed to spend one week working a beat car in Area Two. Apparently the FBI never had a labor agreement that covered their personnel. The FBI never had senority rights. They called the F.O.P. to tell them about this wonderful plan and were promptly told to read the contract. If this was going to be done it would be strictly by reverse senority. The FBI people did not like being told this by FOP. This past Monday Donahue, Bella and others with the FOP met with Weiss in his office. This plan is "DEAD".
When "Operation Closed Market" was up personnel from 35th Street and administrative people in units were used. All this does is take administrative people in the detective division and put them in districts two days a period. It's only a district assignment version of Closed Market.
I was told recently that we have just under 9500 sworn police officers right now. I know the police department is budgeted for 12,800-13,000 police officers every year. Any money left over that was set aside for the police department during a fiscal year get put into the general fund that Daley can use at his discretion. Can you say Olympics? Anyone know for a fact how many police officers we have right now. Thanks.
Yep, that's going to go over really well.
Heard that one too. The D unit (except for perhaps A/3) is swamped with jobs. Take the dicks out of the unit and you'll really destroy any chances of a decent clearance rate. The dicks will revolt and lay down completely. Granted, there are some idiots that will go out and try to get court time by making pinches. Quite frankly, any dick that goes out and makes and arrest while on patrol is a fucking idiot. J-Fed is in way over his head and will only make it one year out of pride. His resignation will come at 366 days.
off topic, but sunday night in 007, big party on 60 and paulina, about 500 people. big sign hanging says "fuck the pigs, kill the pigs". dude gets shot in the mouth during party. people say to police "you don't care bout us!" gee, wonder why
The Keesing Bandit says---
...the dicks will revolt and lay down completely..."
I had a nightmare like that once.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
I want a job coming up with dumb assed ideas. Ideas that go nowhere and then fizzle is something I believe that I could be really good at. Where and how do I apply? I promise that nothing will make sense or work, and I'm looking for something in the six figure salary range. Any suggestions?
This was done before in 1968-1969. It was called the Detective Task Force and was put on the street after the King riots and other civil disorders during those times. They were in uniform but most had unmarked vehicles. They were assigned districts and were basically like regular Task Force ( SOS ) units.
Been there, done that.
06/15/2007
Baltimore homicide detectives taken off foot patrol
By Gus G. Sentementes and Julie Bykowicz
The Baltimore Sun
BALTIMORE, Md. — Baltimore police officials suddenly ended yesterday a controversial but short-lived initiative that had homicide detectives pausing their investigations to don their uniforms and walk beats.
For two weeks, the homicide unit had been included in a police strategy, backed by Mayor Sheila Dixon, to place 85 detectives on the city's most violent streets.
Faced with a staffing shortage and political pressure to rein in overtime spending, police officials had ordered homicide and district detectives to walk foot patrols at least once a week.
"We refuse to still admit how desperately short this agency is," said Paul M. Blair Jr., president of the city's Fraternal Order of Police union. "To take them from homicide was not one of the smart ideas to come out of City Hall."
With the rise in nonfatal shootings and homicides — 140 people had been killed by yesterday, 18 more than at the corresponding time last year — Police Commissioner Leonard D. Hamm decided yesterday to exempt homicide detectives from foot patrols.
Still on beats last night were the district detectives who investigate burglaries, robberies and nonfatal shootings.....
http://www.policeone.com/
investigations/articles/
The Safest place in Patrol is in any North side District on days!
Anywhere else and your bound to get messed with by idiot bosses dreaming up the latest brain farts at night!
Closed Market was and always been a gas wasting bust and a big waste of man power!
They best thing about Closed Market was eating anywhere in the city and shopping on the clock!
BBBWWAAA!! HHAA!!!
off topic, but sunday night in 007, big party on 60 and paulina, about 500 people. big sign hanging says "fuck the pigs, kill the pigs". dude gets shot in the mouth during party. people say to police "you don't care bout us!" gee, wonder why
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NICE.
The media is giving moral encouragement to the savage.
The media told the nation that the NYC Det's were nothing but savage killers (regarding the 'groom' being killed).
The court ruled the use of deadly force was not unreasonable.
Good job, biased media. Go fucking die.
Go team!
chicagotribune.com
Of course it's fair that they have guns and you don't
John Kass
June 19, 2008
That Washington, D.C., gun ban that the Supreme Court should toss out any day now because it is unconstitutional is often compared to the handgun ban in Chicago.
But what's not often reported by the decidedly pro-gun-control media is that since Chicago's anti-handgun law went into effect in 1982, only two classes of people have had ready access to firearms:
The criminals. And the politicians.
Cynics who scoff at everything decent suggest these are one and the same, but taxpayers know the difference.
Criminals are often poor people who are led away in chains and go to state prison, for decades or lifetimes, for using guns as weapons against taxpayers. Politicians wear nice suits, drive luxury cars, and when they go to prison—federal prison, and only for a few months—they go away for using government as a weapon against taxpayers.
Criminals get guns the old fashioned way, by stealing them or buying them illegally. Politicians write the anti-gun laws, and wonder of wonders, they often exempt themselves and call themselves peace officers....
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I was told recently that we have just under 9500 sworn police officers right now.
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9,499 cause I just resigned and left to the FEDS. Things are a lot greener on the other side. get the fuck out while you can.
I hope they do it, I am from Area 5 and I will gladly go to Area 1 or 2. I just hope they know that if they send you an area other than your assigned one they have to pay time and a half. I say bring it on I can find somewhere along the lake to fish for 12 hours of pay.
Let those murdering thugs kill each other who cares. Even if we have enough the ASA's make up excuses to not charge it anyways.
"off topic, but sunday night in 007, big party on 60 and paulina, about 500 people. big sign hanging says "fuck the pigs, kill the pigs". dude gets shot in the mouth during party. people say to police "you don't care bout us!" gee, wonder why
6/19/2008 02:57:00 AM"
Police say to the people "You don't care about yourselves, let alone your families, let alone your neighbors, let alone us."
"It’ll cost $49.3 million to compete on the international stage -- and make it to the finish line.
6/19/2008 12:19:00 AM"
$50 mil to buy into a deal that'll enable them to spend/steal/waste $1+ billion taxpayer dollars; no wonder they're willing to spend lives to close on this one.
Hey, J-Fed is the superintendent.
He KNOWS what he's doing. Right?
Right?
Huh . . right?
Let's just get a damn healthcare plan that will cover my propecia already! That's it!
Holy got stung yet Batman!!!
J-Fed picked up a police management book over Spring break and learned something about local policing. A dirty little secret known since the 1970's. The detective division's support of patrol functions is almost zero at reducing crime. So why do we need detectives at all? Certain crimes need specialists to follow up and investigate. Interviewing is time consuming and a load of paperwork.
Getting those detectives on the streets will also motivate more retirements and less detective work getting accomplished. But who cares if crime gets solved, if you can stop it from happen in the first place?
Unique ideals from unique minds at city hall?
Predictions: More retirements then anticipated this year. Super low moral and even lower clearance rates. Super increases in overtime to make up for the lack of available personnel. The only thing they don't want is increases in overtime. Everything else is intention.
What ever -
They are not going to send me to work anyplace I haven't seen earlier in my career.
Might be good to get away from the psycho, know nothing, done nothing, 11 year on the job micro-manager boss for a couple of days though...
Maybe that cowardly bitch might get sent out too.
Just a thought - Don't start making phone calls yet Sgt.
Off the subject but, anyone hear the details on the switch of Capts from the 20th district to the 14th district?
Anyone know when they are going to make another Dets. Class???
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
You want crime to go down. Bring back Cline! This job isn't for brain surgeons. Detectives solve crimes and put bad people in jail who already commited a crime. Aggressive patrol prevents crimes and locks up bad guys. Units like SOS are multifunctional and serve a great purpose. Units like Narc and Gang Intel put key bad guys away for some time. Beat cars prevent crime, and answer jobs for the citizens. A bosses job is to put his troops in check here and there, and to congratulate when necessary to promote hard work and long hours. This is police work. This is the foundation of how it is done. Not fancy but neither is the job. Many of us grew up in police families and understand this. GFY.
If you want the "D" unit to work patrol 1-week a month, thats fine I could use the break, but they better not stack my jobs when I get back. My in-box is already full. This is more examples of fed-hacks not knowing what the D-unit does.
If the feds can't figure out why the clearance rate is so low, than you should do the tax payers a favor and resign.
We are only as good as the cooperation we receive from the public. We have ASA office that prejudge people by there rap sheet. We are limited to the interview techniques available. If we lie to a suspect (which the Supreme Court allows) the ASA's office will not approve charges.
We are not allowed to detain witnesses. You have the public and media taking the side of the bad guy.
What do you expect the clearance rate to be when you stack everything against the police.
Like it or not, the gangbangers are running this town. We have alderman and politicians with strong gang ties. We have a mayor who still associates with mob bosses.
Recently, a state politician propossed giving college scholarships to youths in juvenile detention, who succesfully complete in-custody schooling with a GPA of 2.8 or better. What about scholarships to youths doing the right thing.
Once again get rewarded in this town for being a screw-up.
Hey J-Fed,
suggestion here...
Since Patrol is a punishment assignment for the non-clouted, morale is in the toilet, we have no manpower etc etc etc
How about this...an overtime program open to ONLY district patrol personnel, that would allow volunteers to work their days off, or double shifts in their home district.
Just think, they are trained, know the area, are already on the city insurance/benefit package et al.
Many would love the extra dough, and gee, this might even keep some people off the medical so they can get a piece of the pie. And for once in the history of Chicago PD a program that would toss a sop to patrolmen. BUT this should only be open to district field assigned patrolmen, no housecats, or unit people!
Hmmmmm. I wondering.... as a dick in a beat car, would I have to call another dick to process my felony arrest? It would probably end up that way...stupid idea.
Some guys have been dicks the majority of the careers, imagine them trying to figure out a Traffic Crash Report or going to Traffic Court again. I think re-tread training would be in order so that no one got hurt, but again the department doesn't care about us.
being a detective I will go back and work the beat....as long as Jody partners up with me for the day and writes all the paper....!
How about using the millions daley is stealing from the police budget to hire us back at time+1/2! How about 10 hour days then we could work 1 of the 3 off for overtime! how about it boss? How about decent cars? How about a decent contract? How about more manpower? how about asking us then not throwing us out of our assigned areas when you disagree? How about it???????????
This came directly from the Policy "think tank" Masters, Little Ray, and (Eye)Candy. How are we expected to do anything in this department when our own "leaders" cannot even interpret the contracts under which we work. Is this experiment over yet?
I would need a PPO to show me all the stuff that has changed since I last worked in a Beat Car. Hope the explain the geranimal uniform matrix to us old guys, as I only have the old style uniform. Wish they had cargo pants back in the day...lol
if this does happen I would like to remind all the Patrol Officers to fill out an out of grade slip. If you are working in a car with a D2A then by contract you are entitled to the same pay as that person as you are both doing the same job. Maybe they could come up with like a D2A(1) pay schedule for any Officer that has to train a Detective in the ways of the new computers, paper work, event numbers, anovs and the like
Stay Safe
I missed something. How would reverse seniority sound the death knell for this program? They would get the numbers on the street as they desire.Albeit it would suck for the younger set.
Were they originally using this to agitate old timer dicks so they would retire?
I was told recently that we have just under 9500 sworn police officers right now. I know the police department is budgeted for 12,800-13,000 police officers every year...
6/19/2008 12:46:00 AM
I don't know why everyone has such a big problem with this concept, but the 13000+ budgeted refers to ALL SWORN PERSONNEL, not just P.O.'s.
I can just imagine the riot up in Area3 if that ever came to be.....
Can they put themselves down as notified when they handle a caper? hehehe
that makes no sense everybody knows that dicks wear short sleeved shirts and ties in the summer
I have been going through the testing process to get into the Academy. Going in for the psych part this upcoming Sunday. Anybody know, if all the rest of the testing is passed, what month I would actually be getting into the Academy. It has been a hell of a long process so far. Some of my buddies have gotten into suburban departments who applied a year and a half after i did.
off topic, but sunday night in 007, big party on 60 and paulina, about 500 people. big sign hanging says "fuck the pigs, kill the pigs". dude gets shot in the mouth during party. people say to police "you don't care bout us!" gee, wonder why
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Why don't you carry roach spray instead of mace... and verminate these pieces of shit.
I like a big dick in a suit.
I heard they will be patrolling boys town.
What happened to the 90 day detail officers that WERE NOT supposed
to go back to 35th Street? Just a small handful got sent to districts, the others went back to their spots or better spots. So much for cleaning out 35th Street and putting more P.O's on the street, so now f--- with the D unit! Should weed out 35th Street of the 5 years or less P.Os and get them some street experience!
To 1:59 AM,
Who the fuck are you to judge hos any policeman condkucts his job. You sound like one of those whinning assholes who are always beefing and that you have all of the answers.
THere are policemen on this job that will do the job they were hired to do, then they are assholes like you who wouldn't know how to make an arreest so beefing about it makes you safe.
And to the guy who thinks the Supt just might be bringing this all together, WHAT ARE YOU, FUCKING NUTS?
The lastest count of Police Officers is 8500 per J-Fed at one of his meetings in the districts.
Heard that one too. The D unit (except for perhaps A/3) is swamped with jobs. Take the dicks out of the unit and you'll really destroy any chances of a decent clearance rate. The dicks will revolt and lay down completely. Granted, there are some idiots that will go out and try to get court time by making pinches. Quite frankly, any dick that goes out and makes and arrest while on patrol is a fucking idiot. J-Fed is in way over his head and will only make it one year out of pride. His resignation will come at 366 days.
6/19/2008 01:59:00 AM
I think you may be on to something. J-fed either resigns or Daley is eventually fed up with the police laying down and the huge rise in crime and fires j-fed (or forced resignation). James Jackson is the sup in 2009 if not by 2010.
don't be surprised to see the cameras pulled in a few years as a failed experiment.
Currently in the Academy: 106 Chicago Police Recruits.
Next class scheduled for July sometime. Only 25 to be in that class as of today.
I agree with area one det.
Having bosses like a dim-wit former Chief of Dets. and others who signed all kinds of agreements with some goof of a federal judge did one of the biggest dissevice to the CPD. The less-than-48 hrs. rule, the witness forms, line-up forms that we have to swear that we arn't lying is all bullshit. We used to have bosses (a long time ago) that even as dumb some were they were still policemen, not like most of the shitheads today.
This is true. Our Dept. doesn't know our contract. Just like the story of not having to give OT to non-bid units when they switch their hours to work a detail. WRONGO!!!! Don't let them tell you anything different. So 35th Street, when you get pulled from days to work afternoons for the Taste of Shitcago, watch the fools at Bud Billiken or babysit the drunks on New Years Eve they HAVE TO pay you overtime. If they don't get volunteers, they have to go by reverse seniority... Section 23.11 of the contract. Volunteer for nothing & Get your grievance papers together!!! Start fighting for your union rights and get ready to go back to the beat car.
"...it makes no sense that dicks wear short sleeved shirts and ties in the summer..."
Both Sypowitz (NYPD BLUE) and Homer Simpson do.
I hope they do it, I am from Area 5 and I will gladly go to Area 1 or 2. I just hope they know that if they send you an area other than your assigned one they have to pay time and a half. I say bring it on I can find somewhere along the lake to fish for 12 hours of pay*
** That's right :)
I'm all for it.
Detective is good for OT, but most of the time it is a super fucking boring job.
Drasuitis going to 020 and Capt. Anderson? (lady on 3rd) is coming to 014. Drasuitis is not a bad guy if you work, if you dog it..then you are completely screwed. It should be very interesting on the watch..Let's put it this way, people were getting dumped to 3rd watch in 014 during the bids in December.
why hire new recruits? You have to pay them year round, plus benefits. Just hire back the guys we have at time and a half for the busy month weekends. A LOT cheaper in the long run. Close that dumb-ass Academy till 2010. Just pay us, and fill shifts by seniority bids. The City will get plenty of officers, who could use the extra money. Then, come about end of September, when thiongs slow down to the normal insanity, back to normal operations till next Summer.
Yeah right, the HQ 90 day detail personnel that were supposed to go to patrol,unless your a certain female Sgt. with ties to a certain OCD Chief. Then,you get to go to a nice spot at Homan Square. The old Double standard, great for morale that's already in the shitter!
waxing prophetic:
The city/management is only going to speed the destruction of this City with their stupidity. In the end, the federal government will step in and become an occupying police force in this city, putting out small wars against the "man". City police in the interim will become report takers and investigators while at the same time getting militant training from the FEDs so we can retake this city in a militant warlike capacity while civilians will be given report taker and investigatory jobs.
The city is on the last sharp edge before going on FEDERAL PROBATION, during which they will fail to comply with FEDERAL directives on their own, which is when the FEDS become the law in this city.
Blue shirts will become passive employees, Daley will cut our numbers down to nothing, and when the FEDS attempt to leave the city Daley will cry we don't have enough cops, give us federal money to pay for the necessary size force to take over when you leave.
This cycle is inevitable and I will be gone as it begins around Olympic time, that is if the world lasts beyond the year 2012 as the mayan calendar and nostradamus predict.
I HEARD RUMORS THAT DICK ARE NOT PRESSING THE REFUSAL TO PROSECUTE ANYMORE!
IT COUNTS AS A SOLVED CASE IF A VICTIM IS TO LAZY OR DENSE TO FOLLOW UP.
ARE 1 AND 2 ARE INFAMOUS FOR THE AMOUNT OF REFUSAL TO PROSECUTE.
I DARE J-FED TO LOOK INTO THE THE CLEARANCE RATE IS REALLY AROUND 3 PERCENT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
DONT FORGET THE UNFOUNDED AND THE CLOSED NONCRIMINALS GO HEAD PETERSON FILL UR BOSS IN TELL HIM HOW IT WORKS.
Anonymous said...
I have been going through the testing process to get into the Academy. Going in for the psych part ................
my advice run away , run away as fast as you can. you do not want to work in chicago. get a job where people dont spit it your face with their words. where criminals have more rights than you do. again my friend run away.
You guys can't read berween the lines. J Fed is here to stay,and the dept is under Federal supervision. End of story,get used to it.
Took me a year and a half from the date of my first test to start the academy. Some people got in after 6 months. Depends on the rate they are hiring (pretty slowly now). Maybe by the time you make it morale will have changed for the better. If you make it to the part where they do the background investigation, call your investigator a few times to check in. Otherwise your file can get lost in the shuffle.
Anyone see the fucking retards marching outside the Thompson center today, hmmmmm wonder if these fucking retarded fucks went home and raised their fucking kids the right way or even knew where the fuck their kids are or what they are doing.......THERE MAYBE WOULD BE LESS DEAD KIDS AROUND.... as far as I am concered ITS UP TO THE FUCKING NON-EXISTANT PARENTS to know where the fuck their kids are... TOO BAD FUCK FACE THAT DIED HAD A FUCKING RAP SHEET ANYWAY AT THE AGE OF 16 THAT SOME ADULTS WOULD BE ASHAMED OF.... FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.
How about this...an overtime program open to ONLY district patrol personnel, that would allow volunteers to work their days off, or double shifts in their home district.
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It was called the TARA program and somehow the funding mysteriously disappeared.
No POs dicks or Sgts assigned to field duties are going. The rest are going for five days.
Anonymous said...
I have been going through the testing process to get into the Academy. Going in for the psych part this upcoming Sunday. Anybody know, if all the rest of the testing is passed, what month I would actually be getting into the Academy. It has been a hell of a long process so far. Some of my buddies have gotten into suburban departments who applied a year and a half after i did.
6/19/2008 12:36:00 PM
Probably in the fall. Hiring freeze on. Make sure you have the correct fat percentage. learn to do sit ups in perfect format. otherwise they fire recruits for missing one sit up. Fingers must be interlocked. Very important to be a police officer with correct sit ups and form. Firing recruits for anything. 3 fired this week.
Anonymous said...
Currently in the Academy: 106 Chicago Police Recruits.
Next class scheduled for July sometime. Only 25 to be in that class as of today.
6/19/2008 04:47:00 PM
Not true. Less than 100. several recruits fired for improper situps. One recruit missed by one situp. Class for July not guaranteed.
Anonymous said...
This was done before in 1968-1969. It was called the Detective Task Force and was put on the street after the King riots and other civil disorders during those times. They were in uniform but most had unmarked vehicles. They were assigned districts and were basically like regular Task Force ( SOS ) units.
6/19/2008 06:23:00 AM
Ya, but back then Dicks cleared cases with phone books and rubber hoses.....
Why not look at all of those dics who don't make any fucking arrests (and I'm not talking about jumping on paper in the #2 box), haven't turned in a closing supp report in the last 6 mos....get their asses back into uniform first....there are too many not pulling their load in the areas and special units and bosses look just the other way.
I think its a great idea to put detectives on the street. They need to get back on the street and make their own arrest instead of taking credit for the officers arrest and stealing their court overtime and receiving merits for other officers work. They have to much free time on their hands to screw off.
Hey, these guys' clout did not get them the answers to the Dick's test so they can drive around a beat car!!
I was told recently that we have just under 9500 sworn police officers right now. I know the police department is budgeted for 12,800-13,000 police officers every year. Any money left over that was set aside for the police department during a fiscal year get put into the general fund that Daley can use at his discretion. Can you say Olympics? Anyone know for a fact how many police officers we have right now. Thanks.
We have 10,031 sworn personnel under the title code of 9161. That includes everyone who is stripped, works inside, anyone getting paid within that title code. Easy to find out if you know how to use the alpha-star query on the computer.
Weis wasn't going to have all the detectives in a beat car, he was just going to send A3 super detective Leavitt out for a week and all crime would stop in his presence
6/19/2008 04:34:00 PM
I think you may be on to something. J-fed either resigns or Daley is eventually fed up with the police laying down and the huge rise in crime and fires j-fed (or forced resignation). James Jackson is the sup in 2009 if not by 2010.
don't be surprised to see the cameras pulled in a few years as a failed experiment.
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I doubt that Daley will pull the cameras. If you notice, he seems to pull most of his "new ideas" from "British Bobbies' Playbook"
Off the subject but, anyone hear the details on the switch of Capts from the 20th district to the 14th district?
Yes....and is 014 fucked!
Good ridence BEYOTCH!
Anonymous said...
Took me a year and a half from the date of my first test to start the academy. Some people got in after 6 months. Depends on the rate they are hiring (pretty slowly now). Maybe by the time you make it morale will have changed for the better. If you make it to the part where they do the background investigation, call your investigator a few times to check in. Otherwise your file can get lost in the shuffle.
6/19/2008 09:00:00 PM
"lost" A code word. Stay in shape and lower your fat content. Physical fitness pushed in academy. Not reading and writing but pushups, situps and running. No need to think anymore. After graduation then relax and enjoy the show. No FTO's to help but that ok. You will learn sometime.
The city is on the last sharp edge before going on FEDERAL PROBATION, during which they will fail to comply with FEDERAL directives on their own, which is when the FEDS become the law in this city.
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Not unless Obama becomes President! HAHAHA Happy tiems are here again....
start with the dicks assigned out of the areas.. THEY GET ZERO JOBS so the clearance rate wont suffer one case.
Anyone know when they are going to make another Dets. Class???
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Dont know exactly when but they are down approx 140 Detectives. Good Luck to ya!
think its a great idea to put detectives on the street. They need to get back on the street and make their own arrest instead of taking credit for the officers arrest and stealing their court overtime and receiving merits for other officers work. They have to much free time on their hands to screw off.
You are a moron....what dic took credit for your arrest? detectives stats are for closed cases...not your fucked up bullshit arrest....
send that jaggoff phone answering prick from A/4 SVU.........cant wait to see u in roll call asshole!!!!!!!!!
matter of fact send all those jagoffs from SVU a/4.......they dont do shit anyway, oh wait bitching is something they do very well!
New version of closed market will have the inside people working the street 1 week out of every period instead of the 1 day per week as in old. J-Fed is desperate to get more people on the street to stem the 20 or so increase in murders and the 165 extra shootings this year.
Stacked jobs for dicks? An in box? Handouts backed up? How can any detective wonder why Jody doesn't understand that job. Jesus!!! As a fed he handled, what 1-2 investigations every other year?
Why not put them in uniform all the time with marked cars, and let the beats be known to dispatchers so they can answer jobs via watching the gps in the cars and that would help with the overflow! Why not!
Hey. How about having the ETs write movers in their spare time?
The Olympic committee could set up a special event number (source of payment)to attract officers to work special employment.
Putting detectives back in uniform and in a marked unit is a great idea. The Det's can still make their investigative calls and even make visits related to their investigations while providing a marked presence. Go for it J-Fed!
Anonymous said...
How about this...an overtime program open to ONLY district patrol personnel, that would allow volunteers to work their days off, or double shifts in their home district.
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It was called the TARA program and somehow the funding mysteriously disappeared.
6/19/2008 09:36:00 PM
Misappropriated would be a better word. The money was good and the assignments better. It was refreshing to go back out to a district.
To the idiot area 5 det. you can't handle area 1 or area 2 goofy. They are not the pussy Northside area 5. You need a apir of balls and job knowledge which you don't have you Nothside fuck.
6/19/2008 11:31:00 PM
is that where that pompous prick is at!
We are not allowed to detain witnesses.
Sorry dear boy! I agree with this one .Just Wrong to detain a WITNESS.
Back in the day.....we dicks could work RDO in the CHA housing projects, mass transit, or gangs...I chose gangs, because it was FUN...we got to roust assholes; pimpslap gangbangers..and wup-up on the criminal element...jeez, I must be one of those KMA guys everyone wants to see gone.......
Anonymous said...
send that jaggoff phone answering prick from A/4 SVU.........cant wait to see u in roll call asshole!!!!!!!!!
matter of fact send all those jagoffs from SVU a/4.......they dont do shit anyway, oh wait bitching is something they do very well!
6/20/2008 10:18:00 AM
You haven't heard crying until you visit the JISC at Pershing & California. The biggest crybaby,job shirking,lying jagoffs on the job.
Anonymous said...
think its a great idea to put detectives on the street. They need to get back on the street and make their own arrest instead of taking credit for the officers arrest and stealing their court overtime and receiving merits for other officers work. They have to much free time on their hands to screw off.
You are a moron....what dic took credit for your arrest? detectives stats are for closed cases...not your fucked up bullshit arrest....
6/20/2008 08:27:00 AM
You haven't been on the job long. Some detectives are notorious for stealing your pinch. Ever wonder why you haven't been to court on that good felony pinch? Your name was removed from box 1. They do it more than you think.
A "REFUSAL TO PROSECUTE" check mark on a supp report is the BIGGEST statistic mark for ANY CRIME INCLUDING MURDERS!!!!!!!
"Refusal to prosecute" includes state's attorney rejection of felony charges; victim (domestic) refusal;etc. etc. MURDERS are CLEARED OVER this stat with the murderer walking and laughing FREE because of this simple little check box....EXAMPLE: pookey in a wheel-chair is killed at a dice-game; three witnesses say BOO-BOO kilt him and later ID him...gun recovered..ASA reject murder charges because witnesses have prior arrests for dope/theft etc.etc...CASE IS EXCEPTIONALLY CLEARED/CLOSED with asshole murderer laughing;walking the streets....... BTY This has been done in our CPD for DECADES....
6/20/2008 10:56:00 AM
Quit stripping and firing every TOm,Dick and Harry on every ridiculous allegation.
New version of closed market will have the inside people working the street 1 week out of every period instead of the 1 day per week as in old. J-Fed is desperate to get more people on the street to stem the 20 or so increase in murders and the 165 extra shootings this year.
**They aren't going to bail him out of the this. He can put anybody he wants on the street but Nobody on this job cares at this point and will happily sit in a squad car and get paid for an 8 hour day.
From the D-unit hitting the streets again:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUVGf8B2yc&feature=user
You haven't been on the job long. Some detectives are notorious for stealing your pinch. Ever wonder why you haven't been to court on that good felony pinch? Your name was removed from box 1. They do it more than you think.
6/20/2008 10:49:00 PM
You are a fucking moron....how can the detective remove you from box 1?? If the Detective gets the felony charge and it goes to Grand Jury the Detective goes to grand Jury......you are the one with either no felony pinches to speak of or no fucking time on the job..........26 years and counting
You must be an idiot saying dics steal your pinches, and then remove your name from box one. when was the last arrest you made? how do you remove a name from an automated arrest, which has been around for almost 5 years you moron. i have had more detectives give me info/arrest and gotten court. sounds like you just want to stir the pot you goof.
I'd like to know how 0827 thinks that the detectives can take his name out of box "1" when only the W/C can reopen the arrests after they're submitted by the A/O.
I'll be happy to go back to Area 2 at time and a half. Been there, done that at straight time.
The Detective Task Force was formed in the summer of 1968 for the Democratic Convention and was disbanded two weeks later.
Anonymous said...
think its a great idea to put detectives on the street. They need to get back on the street and make their own arrest instead of taking credit for the officers arrest and stealing their court overtime and receiving merits for other officers work. They have to much free time on their hands to screw off.
You are a moron....what dic took credit for your arrest? detectives stats are for closed cases...not your fucked up bullshit arrest....
6/20/2008 08:27:00 AM
You haven't been on the job long. Some detectives are notorious for stealing your pinch. Ever wonder why you haven't been to court on that good felony pinch? Your name was removed from box 1. They do it more than you think.
Hey, new guy. The reason you havent been to court on your great "case of the century" is that your case was shit canned. Just use the court screen and check, you big crybaby. Your great victim, or super witness never showed-up in court or you witness just accepted the usual pay-off from the offender. Also if your so pissed-off about the whole thing, just try to study a little harder on the next D2A test.
they should send those detectives to districts based on their closure rates. if they ain't do shit, let em sit on a corner in the doc.
To everyone who thinks the dicks steal their pinches/arrests just remember, the arrest report is computer generated, a dick can not go in and change it, your name stays there as the arresting officer/s. The reason you dont see court rests on the a.s.a. office the dick does not send out subpoenas. Do your homework before blaming the d unit
Anonymous said...
The Detective Task Force was formed in the summer of 1968 for the Democratic Convention and was disbanded two weeks later.
6/21/2008 02:26:00 PM
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The Detective Task Force was formed shortly after the King riots of that year, April 1968 and continued to several weeds after the ocnvention which was in late August. Many of the same Detectives were put back in uniform the following year for the Weatherman disturbances in the Loop.
They are talking about putting detectives in cars,but let Danai who has three years on the job and is one of Dana Starks sweeties has escaped being detailed to 18 district form headquarters. she is now detailed to iad.
"You haven't heard crying until you visit the JISC at Pershing & California. The biggest crybaby,job shirking,lying jagoffs on the job.
6/20/2008 10:36:00 PM"
What happened they hurt your feelings when they had the temerity to question your aggbatt arrest of the 11yo old for throwing a water balloon @10yr old?
Anonymous said...
To everyone who thinks the dicks steal their pinches/arrests just remember, the arrest report is computer generated, a dick can not go in and change it, your name stays there as the arresting officer/s. The reason you dont see court rests on the a.s.a. office the dick does not send out subpoenas. Do your homework before blaming the d unit
6/22/2008 02:11:00 PM
The arresting officer is not notified,mmmm how can that happen? If the jagoff was arrested on scene it is impossible to not notify the arresting officer. Maybe that's the reason for the huge increases in not guilty verdicts. Nobody knows what the hell is going on.
Hey, new guy. The reason you havent been to court on your great "case of the century" is that your case was shit canned. Just use the court screen and check, you big crybaby. Your great victim, or super witness never showed-up in court or you witness just accepted the usual pay-off from the offender. Also if your so pissed-off about the whole thing, just try to study a little harder on the next D2A test.
6/21/2008 03:21:00 PM
If that happens the way you say,how come you were notified but the arresting officers were not?
Guess who else is going to be returning to the street. A certain do-nothing desk sgt at 016. Seems as though an inspector, dressed in civilian clothes comes into the desk playing 'citizen' and observes this big goof sitting on his ass as usual. Phones ringing, citizens lined up, etc. Good ridance.
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