How High Does it Go?
- A Chicago police internal affairs investigator has testified before a federal grand jury about a 2005 memo he wrote questioning whether his bosses ignored alleged misconduct that grew into one of the biggest corruption scandals to hit the Police Department, sources close to the investigation said.
The sources said the investigator, Christopher Taliaferro, testified April 17 before a grand jury probing the Special Operations Section, an elite unit that had wide latitude to search for guns and drugs in gang-infested neighborhoods.
Taliaferro's testimony indicates that federal authorities continue to investigate whether Police Department higher-ups, including internal affairs bosses, allowed SOS officers to incur hundreds of complaints of illegal searches and robberies without stopping them.
And unlike the 60 Minutes fluff, this article names names:
- Five months before Taliaferro's June 2005 memo, [IAD head Deb] Kirby transferred another internal affairs investigator, Bridget McLaughlin, out of the division days after she filed a similar memo that showed eight SOS officers were racking up complaints of illegal searches.
McLaughlin's memo, which the Tribune has reviewed, includes a history of citizen complaints against the eight SOS officers, including Jerome Finnigan, the alleged leader of a ring that falsely arrested and robbed people for years.
Go read the entire article. It cracks open the door on IAD's role in the SOS debacle and asks very pointed questions. This scandal hasn't run it's course by any means, and that's too bad because it means a few more years of nonsense on a scandal that's already two years old.
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
182 Comments:
Bridget got moved out not because of any memo wrote, but because of her personal involvement with one of the englewood crooks.
The story sounds good, but that ain't the way it's happening.
This whole thing isnt 1/10th as bad as the Rick Miller drug scandal
of the late 80s. Ya had a drug ring of dealing cops in 015 that led right the head of IAD and to Leroy's office.
Other than burning a few patrolmen
(like they did w/the Marquette 10),
they'll bury this one too. The higher ups are too close to da stuttering one, and his deals have long been cut.
In the 60 mins interview, Herrera said they called him lil' jerry. They really called him lil' thirsty.
M.T. HAD TO KNOW ABOUT THE MEMO. COMMANDERS ARE THE 1ST TO BE INFORMED ABOUT ANY COMPLAINTS. I ONLY BLAME THE COMMANDER BECAUSE HE HAS THE CLOUT TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. YOU COMMITTED THE CRIME FOR NOT STOPPING IT. THE NUMBERS LOOKED GOOD BUT WAS IT WORTH YOUR CAREER. ALL I GOT TO SAY IS KARMA!
Well Deb, now the rank and file get to learn if your new BFFL Jfed Jwed? is really on our side or just one of the MOST corrupt Supts in the history of the Dept. Thanks for that anyway. If you end up in the joint, it will be a move you finally got without benefit of merit. Congrats. You gotta give it to this one. at least she was smart. I saw her read a lot of text books over the years. On cmpany time but they were hard books and she needed 24 hours. Never did a lick of police work in her life though.
McLaughlin knew what was happening. She discovered the pattern of corruption and did her job. Kirby could not handle the truth and stopped the investigation. Had Kirby did her job, this scandal whould have been stopped. There are more than one exempt involved in this scandal. MT was not alone. IAD investigators knew of this huge problem but white shirts and Kirby stopped their attempts to probe further. IAD investigators kept their own copies of reports just in case. Now maybe the truth will come out in grand jury investiagtion. I bet Cline and others were aware but the numbers of guns recovered was too tempting to pass up. LAPD had Ramparts and we have SOS. Both caused by inept supervision.
"Phat Phil" wanted to look good to the Mayor and the media.
He set the tone and directed that disciplinary problems be ignored and uniform standards be lowered and encouraged lying on crime statistics.
All of this looked good to the Mayor and the media. Is it criminal in nature?
No!
Is he still here to suffer the consequences?
No!
Who suffers?
Those who remain behind.
It will get worse for the white shirts if what Chris Taliaferro is saying to the federal grand jury is true. I worked with him as a Sheriff and came over to CPD with him at the same time. The guy is a Marine and no nonsense. Even though he works in IAD and I haven't spoken to him in about 10yrs., you can take it to the bank what he is testifying about. I am still a blue shirt pushing a beat car and I will sit back and enjoy this one over the next couple of years. Any white shirts that supressed those memo's, I hope you find some medication to help you sleep over the next few months.
Two things,
SCC the SOS scandal is going to go deep and wide. You can bet unless Supt. Weis can pull off a miracle the CPD will go into federal receivership. Bad Bully Bigoted Coppers have garnered so much bad publicity for the city and the department that it is almost inevitable we will be under intense federal oversight.
Regarding what you and others have said about Father Mike here is a quote from the Chicago Sun-Times
"But Pfleger is not the usual priest, and St. Sabina -- thanks to Pfleger -- is not the usual parish. They are, together, something so much better."
I think Father Pfleger will come out of his mess a whole better than the CPD. By the way I am a copper and I live in the 6th District though I work in Headquarters after 19 years on the job in 005 and 002. Yes finally I got some gravy after working the watch for a long long long time. I couldn't even get on Tact in 005 or the deuce.
As a resident of Gresham 7900 Block of South Morgan I have seem Father Mike's work and I will admit he is bombastic, a gun hater, and a bit arrogant at times but his parish and the surrounding community is much better off with him at the helm.
Some new priest from Belfast, Budapest, Manilla, or Kampala could not enter this community and energise it and move it as far as Father Mike has. Better yet nobody has been able to pin any sexual or financial improprieties on Father Mike.
And by the way many coppers worship at Saint Sabina and at Trinity.
Happy House Mouse
When is the next Detectives class starting? Have they even asked for the meritorious yet? Did J-Fed say anything about it at any of his Kool-Aid sessions?
Someone please explain the connection between putting a gun on a mope who dropped it or being told to get 4 guns a period . . . . . and having a million USC in ill-gotten assets? There is none. All you lazy, no balls motherfuckers stand there outside Starbucks and pass your cowardice off as genius. You never had the balls to chase a shithead with a pistol down an alley at 2am...and you know it. The fact is you never had the guts to put a shithead where he belongs and you use Finnigan & Herrera as justification for this. Finnigan et al are not jammed up for putting asshole's jab or asshole's pistol in asshole's pocket; they're jammed up for being kidnappers and stick up men. Jerry ain't locked up for being the balls to the wall copper he was, Jerry is locked up for becoming the criminal that he is. Unless of course you can show me that aggressive police work leads to criminal behaviour. 95% of you motherfuckers couldn't find a dope dealer, much less rob one. All you spineless pussies can kiss my ass. One of you bitches will get on here and talk about your million arrests and they were all done right, blah, blah. Type what you want, a coward knows their own heart.
6/02/2008 11:19:00 PM
Someone finally tells the truth.
McLaughlin knew what was happening. She discovered the pattern of corruption and did her job. Kirby could not handle the truth and stopped the investigation. Had Kirby did her job, this scandal whould have been stopped. There are more than one exempt involved in this scandal. MT was not alone. IAD investigators knew of this huge problem but white shirts and Kirby stopped their attempts to probe further. IAD investigators kept their own copies of reports just in case. Now maybe the truth will come out in grand jury investiagtion. I bet Cline and others were aware but the numbers of guns recovered was too tempting to pass up. LAPD had Ramparts and we have SOS. Both caused by inept supervision.
6/03/2008 06:07:00 AM
Hi Bridget, thanks for stopping in, but you know that's not the way things happened. Bitter much? Say hi to your boyfriend in prison for me.
soooo IF KIRBY IS SHIT CANNING INVESTIGATOR 4 ASKING TOO MANY QUESTION IS THAT WRONG?
IF KIRBY IS HAMPERING INVESTIGATORS TO KEEP HER NUMBER NICE AND CLEAN FOR CLINE?
WOULD THE BE CONSPIRACY IN HAMPERING AN INVESTIGATION AND BASICALLY THROWING CASES?
IM GLAD SHE IS PROMOTED IT SHOWED THAT J-FED DIDNT MAKE ANY APPOINTMENTS.
KIRBY AND CUELLO CMON IF YOU CANT SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL!
WHAT J-FED GONNA DO NOW STRIP HER OF HER POWER AND PUT HER AT 311?
GOLD STARS DONT GET STRIPPED THE RETIRE!
LAPD had Ramparts and we have SOS. Both caused by inept supervision.
6/03/2008 06:07:00 AM
First of all genius, it's Rampart. Second, most of the officers dirtied up in that investigation have since been vindicated. The state and LAPD used dirty officers as witnesses. Dirty officers that were throwing innocent names out there to save their own ass. You're an idiot if you believe all the bullshit you hear & read. Rampart has cost L. A. tens of millions in what it has paid out to wronged LAPD officers. You should own a computer without a keyboard.
In reality this is news to no one. Ask any District supervisor who would investigate a complaint against an officer and figure out the accused was S.O.S. We were always told by I.A.D. or the Area Deputy to (eat it) investigate it as a complaint against someone from the district.
What this also means is a minimum of 1 more year before cops get a contract. Daley is a vindictive prick. the fact that these allegations effect a small minority of the Dept. mean nothing to him. He's embarrassed and will make the entire department pay. No contract for at least another year. Take that to the bank.
Quick to jump!!
The memo means nothing... There was a confidential long before any memo. IAD was working on it and putting a case together when the $5!t hit the fan. DK and MT are covered. Except for a little bad judgement,(admin stuff) but no wrong doing...
Unless you know something for a fact do a little more listening and little less talking.
The Bad guys here a Finnigan and his crew, don't forget that!!!!
Stay thirsty my friends.
I hope for once that the bosses who are culpable will be held accountable. I doubt it will happen the way it should.
In the Rick Miller thing, there were bosses dirty as hell including a Supt of Police but never were any bosses named or indicted.
015 Commander Sanford Neal was up to his eyeballs in thievery and dope money yet he died on the outside, not in prison where he belonged.
This will very likely be no different. There is another set of rules for those who hold power. As always, blue shirts will go down, supervisors will skate.
Dear Superintendent Weis,
Please explain to the rank and file exactly how and why Deb Kirby was promoted by you to Counsel to the Superintendent. It was widely criticized right here on this blog when it happened, and now the mainstream print media is reporting her "inactivity" during the SOS "reign of terror."
Your silence speaks volumes. True or not, the message is that you don't run our Department. Daley does.
Please respond.
Does it stop at Kirby, or does it stop at Cline? If you think it gets past 35th st. Your nuts! There is no way the Mayor is going to be connected to this shit!
However, I'm bettin' it stops at a Sgt. Maby, just maby a Lt. Thats it!
Maybe a dumb question maybe not....Are the statute of limitations up on 99 percent of what they sau happened??? Like I said I'm curious I don't know how long fed time is compared to state
We need an independent commission to investigate corruption in the City of Chicago--just like the Knapp Commission in New York City in the 1970's. (remember Frank Serpico?)
Relentless media pressure is desperately needed.
No commission appointees with overt or covert ties to Daley, his Machine, Illinois Democrats and crime, organized or otherwise.
Otherwise, he will appoint another one of his hand-picked "blue ribbon panels" to sweep the criminially corrupt role of Daley and his toadies under the rug.
A fish rots from the head down.
Full powers to subpoena and recommend indictments for perjury and other high crimes in televised public hearings is a must.
Meanwhile, in an overwhelming display of public and media outrage, the citizens must petition the city, county and state to legislate a voter referendum recall and term limits for Illinois, CRook Co. and the City of Chicago.
Otherwise, Chicago will remain the most corruptly governed major city in the nation--a laughingstock to all but the decent,law-abiding, hard-working taxpayers who must endlessly suffer these corrupt political dirtbags.
Fox news ran a two year old story about "stealing cops" last night. This story is so old that the cops are in jail serving time already. they made it seem like it was an exclusive and that they had the secret tapes??? These Jags! Just when I feel like I want to plice the streets again they slander us more. Okay let the beating continue....but no pro-active police work for me , still.
To the guys yelling about "your the police its your job" Fu^k you! its my job to answer calls timely and write nice neat homicide paper.
Anonymous said...
Bridget got moved out not because of any memo wrote, but because of her personal involvement with one of the englewood crooks.
The story sounds good, but that ain't the way it's happening.
6/03/2008 12:22:00 AM
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Thanks. I knew she had a agenda as well. why didnt she testify???? Because her word is worth nothing.
Remember the Guns,
Gangs and Drugs slogan that was bandied about at the DOC meetings? Higher ups knew what was going on but they wanted a phat pension and figured they would be retired when Sh#t hit the fan. Where are they now?
Wasnt Tony Rezko getting some of that??
LAPD had the CRASH unit fiasco............
12:46 AM
In all fairness to one of my Fillmo' mentors and buddies, the legendary Nedrick "Rick" Miller that I knew was one hell of copper before I left 011 as a dick in 1970.
We socialized after our tour at the old Red Top Lounge on Madison and Keeler. Rick would be the D-J.
Shit happens. I was terribly hurt and shocked in disbelief when I later heard about Rick and his problems in 015.
I prefer to remember him as the first guy on the scene of a 10-1, wading that nose tackle frame of his into the police fighters, his baton administering a badly needed wood shampoo to the resisters.
In the good sense, as a copper, Rick was one badass motherfucker.
Personally, I have only good things to say about Rick in 011. I never saw any cop clear a corner of gangbangers single-handed like Big Rick. James "Gloves" Davis was a runner-up.
I always got a kick when he'd let me drive his new Eldorado with the Motown tunes cranked up.
May God forgive you and bless you wherever you are, big guy!
As far as my nemesis LeRoy Martin goes, I'd appreciate notification of his death and cemetery. I'll promptly visit his grave with a full bladder.
an elite unit that had wide latitude to search for guns and drugs in gang-infested neighborhoods.
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Well, you can forget all of that now! Chicago will be the OK Corral for a long time! I am not going to jail just to get some bangers piece off the street. I **will** start brushing up on my moving and shooting tho.
Notice the one element that has been missing between the SOS guys and Corey Flagg and the Austin 7: SOS was not tied to a gang and they were not re-selling stolen dope.
They were doing their jobs (and stealing...unfortnly)
This goes all the way to the fat one. Kirby didn't pass gas without Phat Phil telling her what to do, or NOT to do. I only wish he could be indicted for something, anything. Old Phat Phil, what a piece of shit.
And 6/03/2008 04:24:00 AM, you are right. She never did a lick of police work, unless she was put in a position where it couldn't be blown off. A shrewd, slick, and smart cookie though. She used tuition reimbursement, nothing wrong with that, but she tried going to law school on company time. Got away with it for a good long while until the boss in A/2 put a stop to it because word was that somebody dropped a dime, so she worked midnights and went to school on her off-time. Even so, her tour of duty was nothing but 8 hours of study time. Not too bad if you can do it, but when she was up for the next job, rare as that was, whoever was there, especially the beat guys, would suffer her wrath and witness her scowl and her attempts to blow everything off.
And some cite her domestic violence work for the department as police work. Bullshit. Her ass should have been on the street and the city and/or department should have hired a career prosecutor in the field of domestic violence for that civilian program.
I hope she slicked her way into a BIG problem. She deserves it, as does her mentor, Phat Phil.
Well Deb, now the rank and file get to learn if your new BFFL Jfed Jwed?
6/03/2008 04:24:00 AM
.....be fit for life Jfed Jwed? Huh? You lost me at Jwed.
deb kirby was certainly complicite in this entire sos thing. she was given her current job to shut her up. a previous poster brought up rick miller and the marquette ten. you are 100 percent correct. the blue boys will go down and the bosses will all walk. in the end it really doesn't matter because the reputation of the department has been tarnished beyond repair. i overheard several people talking about the couric interview with herrera. ma and pa jones sit in front of the tv on sunday nights and believe everything they hear. we are now all crooks in their eyes. 8 until i can leave and it can't come fast enough. i used to love this job, it's a shame that it had to come to this.
Involvement with englewood crooks? was she taking things with complaintants to a personal level? haven't heard that end of it before
Be careful with ANYTHING YOU DO! Just answer your radio like fop states! Forget the street stops! After watching cltv news they had a story on the uptown neighbors who were out talking to cltv and showing the video cameras and cameras they will use to tape record police! 1 idiot states "we cannot even go outside our homes becuase of the police"! OK jagoffs maybe if the big bad police were not there it would be better right? Then watched fox news at 12:30 the story by larry yellen about the broderick jones and those idiots making us look even worse, yellen even had the tapes used released by the u.s. attorney! If your proactive and you do not have acne your insane! the city is down big time movers,parkers,contact cards and arrests. first time in recent history county jail has many open beds and homicides are up, any coincidence? thanks mayor clout rules!
Nearly all CR investigations were sent to the districts for investigation. Usually district supervisors quickly identified the perpetrators as being from SOS, but any attempts to further identify or investigate the SOS people were stymied. Seems like the process was designed to insulate SOS and its personnel from any accountability or culpability.
What did Kirby know, and when did she know it?
Wow, just watched the noon news and it was just a total slam on the CPD. They brought up the Brodrick Jones stuff and tape recordings played in court (which sounded like thugs talking to each other - i couldn't believe they were policemen). Then they were talking about how cops in uptown (023) are racially profiling and not doing enough work in the area and that the residents now will be out with camara's to video tape any police activity they see. Please be carefull out there.
Isn't Lil Jerry the rooser that Kramer and Seinfeld trained for the cockfighting ring?
OT FOLLOWUP ON THE 008Dist WC CE
Well remember a few days ago when the crazed lunatic came into roll call and brought activity reports in a threatened to take people off cars. He preeched about being more agressive and that when you being the police he will have your back..........
Fast forwad to now Sunday nite.........
A saturation team car involved ina pursuit. Their SGT is monitoring. Everything is by the book....they are giving their speed 40mph which isn't fast down Western.....(Shiat the brids drive twice that on the weekends) Sat team Sgt monitors and waits for details before he weighs the balancing test like a true supervisor would.
Out of nowhere 899 (The ever so popular WC with the pep talk terminates the chase immeditelt before ever giving the SGT time to weigh the balancing test. Then 2 min later a car from 008 spots the car again. The give out flash and state plainly theyr are not pursuing just following from a distance and giving out directions FOR OFFICER SAFETY OF COURSE!. 899 gets on the air and tells a SGt to go over and counsle the 008 district car as the pursuit was terminated. AGAIN ON THE AIR HE DEMANDS A SGT GO FIND THE 008th district CAR AND COUNSLE THEM!
So then a miute later the vehicle wrecks at 83 loomis in 006th district into a wall no civilians hurt or involved excepts the 3 shitheads. Driver de-capitated DOA, ,passenger critical, rear passenger serious. 5 guns recovered from said vehicle a maroon Auroa ( WICH BTW WAS WANTED FOR SEVERAL SHOTS FIRED CALLS WITH PAPER GIVEN DURING THE PREVIOUS WEEK) Glocks with 30 round clips and other very nice guns.
And what does the WC CE say to these officers?????????? YOU ALL GUESSED IT HE TORE THEM A NEW ONE AND ACCUSED THEM OF STILL PURSUING ALL THE WAY UNTIL THE CAR WRECKED WTF! No only did the come up on the air when given the termination..........they asked for permission to head over to 006 to see the carnage.
SO FUCK THIS WC WHO SAYS GO OUT AND GET'EM I WILL HAVE YOUR BACK!!!!!!!!!!WHERE WAS HE FOR THAT? GAVE THE TERMINATION 30SEC INTO THE PURSUIT!!!!!!!!!REAMED THE OFFICERS FOR DOING PROACTIVE POLICE WORK AND LEFT THEM OUT TO DRY........NOT EVEN A GOOD JOB.......
WHAT A FUCKLING TYPICAL ASSHOLE BOSS....LECTURE EVERYONE TO GO BE PROACTIVE AND THEN JAM THE GUYS THAT DO UNFUKINBELIEVEABLE
Slum-times is running apology letters everyday on Pleger??? What a race baiter paper, they OH so love the king of hate Pleger.
Who's always crying "the more work you do the more Cr#s you get" Now everyone's suggesting to f over P.O. s base on allegations as long as it not me. We aren't any better then the citizens. We play the same crying game.
As most of the hot-dog cops say, Drugs, Guns, and Glory! More medals and badges, Oh my!
and we will all go down together.....
i love how last week everyone in 015 said they aren't doing any work. spoke to a friend of mine and said that they are still doing everything like nothing happen. good work guys keep bringing activity. it will get you far you know.
Hey SCC, Lets show dictator Daley that we have some power lets do a mail campaighn. If everyone is against the 2016 Olympics from coming to Chicago, you can send a letter to
U.S. OLYMPIC COMMITTEE
1 OLYMPIC PLAZA
COLORADO SPRINGS, COLORADO
80909
send anything about homicides, death investigations, city corruption.
I hope M.T. goes down. He will get rid of PPO for anything and now it's his turn.
IAD/OPS cover ups happen quite frequently. If an investigator chooses not to go along with the "this person has clout... bury it" routine, they reassign the case to another investigator that is willing to bury it. I wish they would go back and look through the files and see just how many times this has happened. IAD investigators kept their own copies of reports just in case... but that doesn't make it right. Even if they kept their own copies, didn't they falsify the report by going along with the bosses told them to put down? You don't have to follow an unlawful order and why would you want to work for these schmucks who are asking you to jeopardize your career? But if the very unit that investigates corruption is corrupt, the investigators should report it to an outside government agency immediately(Inspector General, Attorney General, US Attorney).
I know Chris T.
He is a good guy, no nonsense! If you have a case at IAD, you want him investigating...if you're ok with the facts.
Chris, be careful, the rats you are cornering will try to bite you.
It would seem that a good portion of the accountable upper echelon is culpable. But, what difference does it make? Look at all the next Daley generation that are making a killing off the public and pension entities. What really frosts my balls is the fact that only one, just one, elected pension rep, for the Sgts., had the huevos to vote against giving Daley's nephew our money, reaping a personal windfall, while any investment benefit to our pension fund is still questionable.
This has already been answered before. This is old news. IAD claims they were doing their job but these two mopes weren't privy to the workings of the investigation, which they claim was proven by their letter writing.
The shitters have given up their chosen shit, that's all folks.
Unless shitter Daley wants to throw Kirby to the shit eaters nothing more will happen, and certainly none of the bosses are gonna suffer because if there WAS anything on them they'd already be looking out a window at 35th doing nothing until indicted.
off topic,
from Sun-Times:
Cardinal removes Pfleger from St. Sabina parish
June 3, 2008
BY KARA SPAK Staff Reporter
The firebrand pastor of St. Sabina parish was effectively removed from his duties there Tuesday, according to a statement released by the Archdiocese of Chicago.
In the statement, Cardinal Francis George says he asked the Rev. Michael Pfleger, 59, to "take leave for a couple of weeks from his pastoral duties." The statement said Pfleger "does not believe this to be the right step at this time." "While respecting his disagreement, I have nevertheless asked him to use this opportunity to reflect on his recent statements and actions in the light of the Church's regulations for all Catholic priests," George said.
The recent statements in question were video clips broadcast on You Tube where Pfleger mocked Hillary Clinton for crying on the campaign trail. He suggested her tears were due to "white entitlement" leading Clinton to believe the Democratic nomination should go to her, not Barack Obama.
Pfleger has been a priest for 33 years, serving nearly all that time at St.
Sabina's in the Auburn-Gresham neighborhood.
Fr. William Vanecko, Pastor of St. Kilian's parish, will be temporary administrator of St. Sabina's, the statement said.
"I ask the members of St. Sabina's parish to cooperate with him and to keep him and Fr. Pfleger in their prayers," the statement reads. "They are in mine."
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Mine too as they have just been answered.
Hey SCC,
Is it true Fr. Phelger has just been given the boot by the Cardinal?
Anonymous said...
"-what the fuck is up with MT issuing parking passes for the 4 merit-sergeant SWAT guys in case they are deployed?"
"another classic MT clout rule."
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You know he has these reaffles for the Police Hockey team so he can play for free I am sure. I hear hockey costs llike $500. a year to play!
Cheap fuck I wonder if he ever bought a BEER for any orf the team players or SWAT guys in his whole career?
Did he charge his staff to pay for their plates at the Recognition ceremony too? Did he create a Gym at the Academy so he could work out on company time while everyone else in patrol pays for Ballys or Xsport Gym?
You can audit him and find he is LEGIT he just fucks over the basic blueshirt guys while making more pay than them........stand up guy!!!
American troops were killed in Iraq in the Month of May. What is the death toll in Chicago for the same period?
I think it's clear, those of us who live in Chicago, have a greater risk of being killed, than combat troops serving in Iraq.
Chicago is more violent than Iraq
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When will people stop saying that it is safer in Iraq than it is in Chicago. Everyone always compares the number killed here to the number of servicemen that die there. But the citizens in Iraq are being killed at a higher rate then in Chicago.
This is the way it should be compared
citizens - citizens
cops - servicemen
I would rather be here
Who was Rick Miller? Tried a google search but couldnt find much...just how bad was it??
Anonymous said...
Bridget got moved out not because of any memo wrote, but because of her personal involvement with one of the englewood crooks.
The story sounds good, but that ain't the way it's happening.
6/03/2008 12:22:00 AM
She might have other problems but she did discover the problem at SOS. More than one investigator knew of the growing scandal years ago. Look at court deviations. There is a pattern somewhere. Also look at narcotics court deviations. A sharp investigator could discover the pattern.
The last time the IAD was doing a good job was when Matt L. Rodriguez was the Superintendent.
In support of this claim the following is offered:
#1 The "Austin 7" investigation (015) was started and finished and the conviction of everyone arrested. The only investigation that undercover police officers were the victims and the only investigation that the FBI allowed the IAD to maintain wiretaps.
#2 Three tactical officers from 006 were arrested and charged with stealing large amounts of money from dope dealers and convicted. IAD investigation all the way with minimal involvement from the FBI.
#3 A detective from Area 5 VC and three tactical officers from 025 charged with stealing large amounts of money and cocaine and they pled in Federal Court. Again the IAD did the work with minimal assistance.
#4 Three tactical officers from 020 charged with staling money from dope dealers and they all pled guilty in Federal Court, another IAD investigation with minimal FBI help.
#5 Investigation into Medzianowski started, which eventually led to his conviction and his partner and others in Federal Court.
Rodriguez should be proud that he pushed these investigations and found the right people to carry them on.
The IAD fell apart under Hillard and were discouraged under Cline.
Shame on them..
Lil Jerry told his story on 60 minutes and it was everybody eleses fault. They taught me how to lie. They told me just take the money don't worry about it, yeah right. I am now retired, and spent 32 years with the CPD. You don't take money because you are told to. Yoy take it because you want to. If the Unit was so bad and you did'nt want to be a rat, transfer out. I may not have a badge and a gun but I'am still a policeman. Yeah right. You are nothing but a thief a weesel, and now a rat.
I worked with Chrisnabout 10 years ago. There is no hidden aggenda or self promotion with him, Chris is good people.
Was MT the commander of SOS at the time? And then they sent him to the academy? Is this true? This may get real interesting.
Chris, keep your head up. You'll be out of there soon.
Frances Cardinal George is reassigning Fr. Michael Pfleger from pastor of St. Sabina R.C. Church to a unspecified assignment.
Pfleger will be replaced by the pastot of St. Kilian's Parish, a mile to the south.
The new pastor of St. Sabina is Fr. William Vanecko, a son-in-law of Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley.
Any truth to the rumor that Michael Pfleger will be reassigned as a missionary to the Darfur region of Somalia?
JUST WAIT UNTIL THE IAD COVERUP FOR THE CLOUTED VERSUS THE NONCLOUTED SCANDAL HITS. THIS WILL BE VERY BIG INDEED...
THERE IS STILL MUCH,MUCH MORE TO COME BOYS AND GIRLS...
THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF FAT PHIL'S TROUBLES...
FAT BOY DID SOME VERY SERIOUS WRONGS HIMSELF AND THE PIED PIPER IS COMING BACK,THE CHICKENS BE COMING HOME TO ROOST.
THERE ARE SOME BOSSES LEFTOVER THAT HAVE SERIOUS THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
INJUSTICES FROM THE PAST ARE POPPING UP LIKE DANDELIONS ON AN ENGLEWOOD LAWN RIGHT NOW.
The Vatican has elevated Brothah Phlegm to monsignor`at a very, very, very, very small parish--Our Lady of Antarctica
FAT BOY'S CORRUPTION IS GOING TO BE SHOWN TO THE WHOLE WORLD,WALLOW IN YOUR MISERY NOW EGOMANIAC.
REMEMBER,YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW AND YOU HAVE SEWN SOME HORRIBLE INJUSTICES.
There are no others shopping attorneys and media outlets who want their story out too. If I didn't know any better I would think this Cline Fiasco was a Joseph Wambaugh book.
Coming from a good source at 35th street, the reason Deb Kirby is still around and got promoted is because city hall is afraid that she will testify in the upcoming lawsuit for the SOS scandal and name the CPD bosses who were covering for the SOS guys. They also want on to say that someone should contact John Kass at the Chicago Tribune and notify him of this cover-up. They want on to state that the exempt rank is starting to question JFED direction and there are a lot of unhappy campers at 35th street.
THe emerging scandals will make Rick Miller look like child's play. If the whole 100% truth comes out on the Cline Era these might very well be the most prolific police scandals in US law enforcement history. This goes directly to Cline and is much,much larger than anything that has so far been announced.
Count on it...
The SOS scandal has moved to the other watch and involves some heavy's...
Why do you think Fat Phil was fired so quickly????
How do you say "SOAP ON A ROPE?" I wouldn't want to have been the grand pouba in the SOS cowboy organization. Stay tuned !!!!!!!!
northside said...
12:46 AM
In all fairness to one of my Fillmo' mentors and buddies, the legendary Nedrick "Rick" Miller that I knew was one hell of copper before I left 011 as a dick in 1970.
We socialized after our tour at the old Red Top Lounge on Madison and Keeler. Rick would be the D-J.
Shit happens. I was terribly hurt and shocked in disbelief when I later heard about Rick and his problems in 015.
I prefer to remember him as the first guy on the scene of a 10-1, wading that nose tackle frame of his into the police fighters, his baton administering a badly needed wood shampoo to the resisters.
In the good sense, as a copper, Rick was one badass motherfucker.
Personally, I have only good things to say about Rick in 011. I never saw any cop clear a corner of gangbangers single-handed like Big Rick. James "Gloves" Davis was a runner-up.
I always got a kick when he'd let me drive his new Eldorado with the Motown tunes cranked up.
May God forgive you and bless you wherever you are, big guy!
As far as my nemesis LeRoy Martin goes, I'd appreciate notification of his death and cemetery. I'll promptly visit his grave with a full bladder.
6/03/2008 10:26:00 AM
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Hey Northside, better pray Leroy checks out before you do, he works at the ME's office. You'd hate for him getting the last laugh down there.
anonymous said...
Maybe a dumb question maybe not....Are the statute of limitations up on 99 percent of what they sau happened??? Like I said I'm curious I don't know how long fed time is compared to state
6/03/2008 09:23:00 AM
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There is no statute of limitations on some things like murder, treason and Official Misconduct.
"All of this looked good to the Mayor and the media. Is it criminal in nature?
No!"
So, malfeasance, falsification of official government records, fraud and dereliction of duty aren't criminal?
Welcome to Chicago.
SCC,
If you ever worked in Unit's 153 or 189 you knew that these two units were Phil Cline's babies and anything they did there,they were simply beyond reproach.
Coppers were allowed to lie,cheat,steal and perjure themselves with impugnity so long as they brought in numbers and floated the $ to the right people.
This has been along time coming,it will be interesting to see how the "powers-to-be" attempt to kill this. You can bet that the Mayor and the City of Chicago do not want the truth to be told.
One thing Herrera did do was begin to tear the veneer off. There is more coming,the demoralized and discouraged officers will not take it any longer. You will see more coppers come forth publicly now and tell all. It is only a matter of time,some are already starting the process.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Unit 153 is not the only unit with "future" troubles brewing. The spinmasters must be busy beyond belief right now.
Anonymous said...
Someone please explain the connection between putting a gun on a mope who dropped it or being told to get 4 guns a period . . . . .
Dude! Are you kiddin? I've chased bad guys through the alleys, did the hand to hand combat thing etc... Didnt make me want to rape, rob and steal, and certainly didnt justify it.
You're a fucking joke.
Hey Northside, any respect for you I had I just lost. Defending Rick Miller, give me a break. Maybe he was first at the 10-1 because he wanted to bail a bad guy out. I worked in 15 and watched him many a day play private security guard at 5501 W. Washington while officers were calling for help. It was all about Rick. He was a criminal, not the police.
All the bosses will be indemnified by the department's "Confidential CR." Don't get your hopes up. No bosses are going to be indited.
This is the biggest thing since Harry Gross.
Wodnicki was a big bully. He came to a homicide scene on the southside. Another officer would not let him pass the yellow tape. Wodnicki hollered do you know who I am. After he showed his star and ID, the officer let him pass. I was there.
He put a big brick on a good cop just for doing his job.
They give some of these people rank and they become total arragant a--holes on a power trip.
To 6/03/2008 09:49:00 AM
Are you referring to DK?
Maybe this will stop the slaughter of the innocent "unclouted" coppers who are ceremoniously thrown under the bus to make it all look legit.
Keep stripping,suspending and firing innocent coppers to make the CPD two tier system of justice appear legit.
Some of us are watching this with glee,let the bodies hit the floor.
Phatty Cline and Kirby, in cahoots....
Great, now we even possibly have a corrupt IAD and ex-Supt. Probably the first ever in the nation. Thanks DemocRATS, thanks Crook County, thanks Feds, Just Great, only in Chicago...Makes me really proud, yeah, right......
MT is to fall sooner than you think ladies and gentlenen. Mark it in your FOP books now on todays date-- you were told it would happen. In less than 4 months.
DON'T DENY ME BABY
THE REAPER IS HARVESTING
Kirby has been trying to stick it up the ass for many coppers for minor infractions to try and deflect heat from those "protected"....she's got that 19th Ward clout and ain't nothing ever gonna happen to her....pray for a long, slow, painful demise..rot in hell DEB (New pic, you're still a HAG)
DID KIRBYS MOTHER WORK AS A PTROLMAN YEARS BACK IN 006TH DISTRICT
Memo to Happy House Mouse
posted 6/03/2008 07:15:00 AM
We're you one of the many who rose to their feet in joyous celebration while that racist so called priest ranted on?
I'll have to say you were.
Remember Mr. House Mouse we all have to answer for what we are and what we say in the here after. If you choose to remain with this blight upon the world you'll have to answer to the Man Upstairs.
Someone please explain the connection between putting a gun on a mope who dropped it or being told to get 4 guns a period . . . . . and having a million USC in ill-gotten assets? There is none. All you lazy, no balls motherfuckers stand there outside Starbucks and pass your cowardice off as genius. You never had the balls to chase a shithead with a pistol down an alley at 2am...and you know it. The fact is you never had the guts to put a shithead where he belongs and you use Finnigan & Herrera as justification for this. ..... Jerry ain't locked up for being the balls to the wall copper he was, Jerry is locked up for becoming the criminal that he is. ...All you spineless pussies can kiss my ass. One of you bitches will get on here and talk about your million arrests and they were all done right, blah, blah. Type what you want, a coward knows their own heart.
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CLEARLY THIS IS A VERY INSECURE PERSON. THIS PERSON QUESTIONS HIS OWN ABILITY TO DO LEGITIMATE QUALITY POLICE WORK AS WELL AS HIS OWN MANHOOD.
THOSE PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU YOU'RE A TOUGH GUY........THEY REALLY THINK YOU'RE JUST A LOUDMOUTH.
Anonymous said...
LAPD had Ramparts and we have SOS. Both caused by inept supervision.
6/03/2008 06:07:00 AM
First of all genius, it's Rampart. Second, most of the officers dirtied up in that investigation have since been vindicated. The state and LAPD used dirty officers as witnesses. Dirty officers that were throwing innocent names out there to save their own ass. You're an idiot if you believe all the bullshit you hear & read. Rampart has cost L. A. tens of millions in what it has paid out to wronged LAPD officers. You should own a computer without a keyboard.
6/03/2008 07:46:00 AM
SOS is still a major problem. I might have missed a few details but there is a major scandal. I do not think there will be wronged police but police found or plead guilty for corruption. By the way, I have a new keyboard. This idiot awaits the grand jury investigation. Cannot deny that court devaitions and CR#'s were ignored.
DID KIRBYS MOTHER WORK AS A PTROLMAN YEARS BACK IN 006TH DISTRICT
6/03/2008 08:55:00 PM
What in the hell does that have to do with anything?
let's not forget the previous boss at i.a.d. who for years enjoyed the ill gotten gains of hubby all the while sticking it up every non-connected coppers ass. another self serving clout baby. how do these people sleep at night?
I hope M.T. goes down. He will get rid of PPO for anything and now it's his turn.
6/03/2008 02:22:00 PM
You bitch when the non-qualified hit the streets, the one's that were fired all deserved it. Their abrubt career change saved many officers from getting hurt.
Thanks to those who posted the info on the petition sites for the removal of Phleger. I would like to think that perhaps we were able to help influence his removal by signing and forwarding those. That being said, why did they have to replace him with a Daley relative?? Never mind, I know, this is Chicago where even the Church bows to the the corrupt.
Since Herrera stated that supervisors told him to lie on reports, why doesn't the superintendent call him into his office, bring in an IAD investigator, and get names. Since the superintendent cleaned house in most of the districts, why not finish off with what started this whole shit storm and get the supervisors from SOS and dump them. Of course, anyone with any time on this job knows the answer...IT'S ALL ABOUT WHO YOU KNOW... Thanks for all the work the real police do.
Anonymous said...
DID KIRBYS MOTHER WORK AS A PTROLMAN YEARS BACK IN 006TH DISTRICT
6/03/2008 08:55:00 PM
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Yes, Pat Kirby. She was a nice lady, class act. Enjoyed working with her.
How about this for a scandal, Jerry Finigan was put in for meritorious Det. 3 or 4 times by you know who "Cline". Before he became the SUP.
Why has'nt someone called "John Kass" at the tribune, and told him about the deal Daley made with Deb Kirby. If she kep't her mouth shut about the SOS scandal she can do anything she wants.
Tuesday night on NBC5 the "Inside the violence" report is a laugh.
Warrner interviewed a Cease Fire leader that stated the disputes are between "clicks" and not "gangs."
Check out Tuesdays' report.
http://www.nbc5.com/inside-violence/index.html
Hey SCC,
Regarding the ouster of Father Felcher.
Those happy at his transfer by the Cardinal need to note that it's only temporary; I believe the news said "a few weeks"; time for Felcher "to reflect on his words and actions", I believe was the quote. This is just another smoke & mirrors attempt (and a half-assed one at that) to pacify those who aren't smart enough to see that once the Saint Sabina natives start to protest, march, etcetera, things will return to the way they were. Time to keep the heat on the Cardinal to ensure that the race-baiting, hate-mongering excuse of a man of the cloth is permanently expelled from his cozy confines.
Bridget McLaughlin was stripped and sent to callback because she had a "personal" relationship with one of the Corey Flagg/Broderick Jones crew of corrupt Englewood coppers. All but one pled guilty to Home Invasions, Kidnappings, and Robberies. The other one went to trial and was convicted. They all had their cell phones tapped by the feds. She worked at IAD during the federal investigation and had knowledge of it's existence. So can you guess we she was sent to callback? Of course the paper makes it seem like it was punishment for the SOS memo. She was also at IAD when a family member was being interviewed at Area 2 regarding a very, very serious investigation. This was about 4 years ago. She arrived at A2 and MF'd department brass, disobeyed direct orders, and interfered with the investigation. Her conduct was so bad they got a CR number on her. Consider this the next time you read something in the paper about the department punishing her for the SOS memo.
6/03/08 4:51pm
ARE YOU KIDDING????
Matt was up to his neck with the outfit,specifically gambling.
When he started drinking again and downtown couldn't control him anymore,he was told to retire.
When he refused, "they" threw the Milito thing to the press to bury him!
How dare you try to honor him!
Hey Northside, any respect for you I had I just lost. Defending Rick Miller, give me a break.
I agree 100 percent. Rick Miller was a thug worse than Idi Amin and Larry Hoover combined. The Drug Enforcement Agency of America locked his ass up in 1989 for being the leader of a continuing criminal enterprise.
James Gloves Davis was a similar brute and thug. He was a combination of Alton Coleman and John Wayne Gacy. He and Edward Hanrahan's thugs killed several black panthers who were doped up to the point of being damn near comatose by an FBI snitch prior to this infamous raid. The city of Chicago paid out a million dollar settlement back in the seventies on that case.
Trust me there is a special place in hell for Rick and Gloves and everybody who likes em! Saying you are down with Gloves and Rick Miller is like a copper saying he is down with the Wilson Brothers or Mumia Jamal.
Cloutless and Sleepless in the Fillmo!
6/03/2008 01:17:00 PM
The same CE who worked with mantia and said "fuck the bosses" yes he lost his balls!
"Personally, I have only good things to say about Rick in 011. I never saw any cop clear a corner of gangbangers single-handed like Big Rick. James "Gloves" Davis was a runner-up."
Hey Northside,Before you get all warm & toasty over Super Cop Rick. Keep in mind he was a shot caller & cleared those corners so his crew could set up shop& run the tip. He moved his operations to 015 set up shop in that rathole on 5500 Washington & moved more product the likes never seen before. Criminal w/a Badge nothing more
Guess you exchanged those blinders you wore on the job for Rose Colored Glasses. Enjoy your retirement.
Bridget McLaughlin had to be moved. That's kind of what happens when you interfere in homicide investigations. She shouldn't even be on this job.
Anonymous said...
Someone please explain the connection between putting a gun on a mope who dropped it or being told to get 4 guns a period . . . . .
Dude! Are you kiddin? I've chased bad guys through the alleys, did the hand to hand combat thing etc... Didnt make me want to rape, rob and steal, and certainly didnt justify it.
You're a fucking joke.
6/03/2008 07:36:00 PM
That was the point CPS dipshit.
So be it, 7:37 PM.
I'm only being truthful about Rick as I knew him.
Many people have "a dark side." While I was unaware of it, others claimed that he was dirty before 1970 while we worked 011 together.
Rick and I had a mutual respect for each other as "da REAL motherfucking PO-leese." (Fillmo' residents coined that term and it stuck for the cops rockin' and rollin' out of 4001 W. Fillmore St.)
I was "the straight arrow college kid with the captain daddy who was always locking up bad guys". Since I was as clean as a hound's tooth, any corrupt police would behave themselves when I was with them.
Rick taught me quite a few survival tricks in bloody Fillmo'. Most of that 011 brotherhood would also agree that Rick's swift arrival would turn a 10-1 into a prompt disregard with a wagon en route for prisoners.
I will acknowledge that in this day and age, Big Rick would probably have caught a few "excessive force" beefs.
Rick and I lost touch after I made dick in 1970. Then he went to 015.
It really upset me when I learned about the tragedy of 5501 Washington Blvd. Brother Rick had turned into a corrupt cop.
Jagoff sheep are quick to pile on a guy when he's down. The Rick that I knew was one damn good copper who bailed this white boy's ass out of some really nasty shit.
My first post stands with no apology to you or anyone else.
Some years back I wrote a (to from report)to the W/C after he was riding my ass to do some illegal searches I explained to him that I was not going to violate the law and or the constitution . Guess what happened to me?
wHAT about the railroad jobs on un-connected coppers? fired and suspended for B.S. when others are granted a pass???
Hey SCC,
Is it true Fr. Phelger has just been given the boot by the Cardinal?
Only for a couple of weeks, Big deal the Cardinal is a wimp Daley Lover.
to 03jun08 117pm,you a spin doctor or a CE basher?Funny thing,I heard his conversation with the saturation po's and he talked about his guys and no one was ripped a new asshole,and did you hear the chase spin doctor?899 called the chase only after the po's said the reason for the chase was"traffic at this time",and 40mph?come on,59th to 61st in 3-5 seconds,anyway spinner,in the end it all worked out,dude got what was coming to him and all po's went home safe.
Post 4:51
Get your facts straight....Austin 7 would be the Austin 40 if there was one white officer involved. (ask former Bt.222 now a fed even though he seems like a total fucking idiot....)
006th distict 3, is 6th District 8 but two are hooked up and now promoted and one left after ratting.
20 District officers were stupid, yes, robbers no. They did a H.I. amd said they were somewhere else. They recovered drugs from a convicted dealer on parole and on Home Monmitoring from C.C.D.O.C. and got sandbagged for "Attempted civil right violation.) and spent time in prison. One officer lied in court biut they are all guilty of knowledge of lying on a report. YES, YOU CAN GO TO PRISON FOR BAD PAPER!!!!!!
Phleger---Who the fuck cares? He was playing to his crowd. He tries to be black and be a black reverend who works for the Archdiosis. I think he is wrong 100% of the time, but remove him from the church, shouldn't of happened. (You will agree with me when you are assigned downtown for the protests...)
Kirby, is being investigated and rightfully so. She will not be touched because of her husband.... (Guess who he is...) Hint: Very involved in the city....)
as far as MT. I don't know the guy and he doesn't seem that hard to replace to me, but who is it that has such a hardon for him. These guys got 250 CR's in five years. That's 10 per year for 5 years for 5 guys. Not that many for working coppers in busy districts, a lot to the general public though. As far as MT, he would have never seen the "Male 4 unknown" because that goes to the district and is unfounded if the sgt can't ID anyone or contact victim. Would have never gone to SOS.
Sorry,
Long day dealing with idiots and just needed to vent. Suprised there was no post abpout the city counsel trying to get the CR files again and this time suing for it. I hope the Aldercreatures are using their own funds, not City revenue fo such a political move?
All the bosses will be indemnified by the department's "Confidential CR." Don't get your hopes up. No bosses are going to be indited.
6/03/2008 07:41:00 PM
Definition of blu shirt (cloutless) almost thrown under bus:
Once upon a time, as a blu shirt working as watch secretary, the W/C would let me leave a little early if my work was all done for the day.
Had a meeting with the D/C who told me that that a 'confidential CR' was going to be obtained on me but did not follow through when the W/C admitted to D/C that it was allowed to happen ...W/C was told to 'cut it out.'
no confidential cr was obtained.
MORAL OF STORY: cloutless officers are expendable unless saved by the grace of CLOUT.
mclaughlin wasn't the only one moved out, so was another investigator who's SON was a big part of the englewood investigation. That's the person mclaughlin was involved with.
There was a confidential number already up and running when talifero wrote his memo. He worked in general, so he knew nothing about it. Talifero is honest as can come, but he didn't blow any whistle, that whistle had already been blown.
Kirby got the ball rolling on all of this shit. Mclaughlin and the crooks mom stepped in shit over englewood, that's all.
Sorry to burst everyones bubble, but there is no conspiracy.
SO FUCK THIS WC WHO SAYS GO OUT AND GET'EM I WILL HAVE YOUR BACK!!!!!!!!!!WHERE WAS HE FOR THAT? GAVE THE TERMINATION 30SEC INTO THE PURSUIT!!!!!!!!!REAMED THE OFFICERS FOR DOING PROACTIVE POLICE WORK AND LEFT THEM OUT TO DRY........NOT EVEN A GOOD JOB.......
== What are u smoking crack...I was there, no decapitation, no 5 guns ( there were 3 ..and no they didnt get thier ass chewed...) D/C told CE to put them in for an award....
Poster about the chase: I understand about the chase being terminated so soon being bullshit, but it is the department we work for. Someone died and you want to bitch about the pussy terminated it? I bet the officers who were originally involved and met with a sup prior to th crash are thanking God that they are not culpable right now..... It sucks, is bullshit, and the WC should have tried to right things instead of bitching, but everyone would/will be in Fedeal Court because of it. Everyone involved, including Sir Pussy, will be in court because shithead's family and the families of the two other occupants are going to sue the City because the big bad corrupt CPD chased them and made them crash. They are just victims. You know who skates with no punitive damages, SIR PUSSY!!!
10:38 PM
Ah, it's you, the anonymous coward again.
See my posts on the thread entitled "Time Magazine Covers J-Fed", specifically on 5/31 at 8:04 PM.
Using your same "Fillmo'" moniker, you posted a bogus eMail address:
FillmoWagonMaster12065@aol.com
(Try it, readers. No such address per "DAEMON")
Yes, Gloves was carrying the Thompson in "the pre-dawn raid" on those cop-killing Panther cocksuckers.
I'm not going get into a pissing contest with you about 2337 W. Monroe St. an 12/4/69. Hampton, Clark and other occupants fired the FIRST SHOT out at the CPD. I couldn't care less if the CPD returned a thousand rounds to neutralize the threat to their lives
Why don't you join Idi Amin Dada, Gacy, Coleman and Andrew Wilson soon, "boss".
While Rick may have fucked up big-time, the Wilson Bros. and Wesley Cook aka Mumia Abu Jamal shot and killed three police officers in the line of duty.
You're as phony as your eMail address, punk.
First of all genius, it's Rampart. Second, most of the officers dirtied up in that investigation have since been vindicated. The state and LAPD used dirty officers as witnesses. Dirty officers that were throwing innocent names out there to save their own ass. You're an idiot if you believe all the bullshit you hear & read. Rampart has cost L. A. tens of millions in what it has paid out to wronged LAPD officers. You should own a computer without a keyboard.
6/03/2008 07:46:00 AM
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How similar these two "scandals" are.
Police arrested for stealing. Blame other cops, supervisors, department as a whole. Citizens listen because they already hate the police and want to believe the lies.
Years go by. Tarnished officers proven innocent. Turns out the cops that stold the money were the only dirty cops and they just lied to throw attention somewhere else.
In the meantime, the departments are ruined. Morale in the sewer. Arrests go down, crime goes up.
Citizens blame the police.
Rodriguez should be proud that he pushed these investigations and found the right people to carry them on.
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No one knows crooks like Rodriguez.
She was also at IAD when a family member was being interviewed at Area 2 regarding a very, very serious investigation. This was about 4 years ago. She arrived at A2 and MF'd department brass, disobeyed direct orders, and interfered with the investigation.
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Whatever you want to say about Bridget in this case she was just being a mother. The dicks were pussies for getting the CR.
And by the way many coppers worship at Saint Sabina and at Trinity.
Happy House Mouse
6/03/2008 07:15:00 AM..................... Lets see if a black priest working in a all white parish called Obama an arrogant black elitist who thinks he’s better than all, you would call him an "uncle tom" Oh the hypocrisy!!!!!
UNFUKINBELIEVEABLE
6/03/2008 01:17:00 PM
...........................................Pontiac with three guns
Fr. Pfleger's St. Sabina is Robbed by Daley's Brother-in-law & Nephew
That will be the headline that you can read when my least-favorite Catholic priest makes his return.
When Fr. Bill Vanecko allows the Pension Consultant nephew to clean out the coffers at St. Sabina's parish...they'll finally get a chance to feel what it's like to be robbed by the politically connected.
Once again, the mayor will probably say he had nothing to do with it.
Meanwhile, I enjoyed the idea of "Monsignor Pfleger" and his new Antarctic assignment.
At least that will let Pfleger finally understand what a snowball is really supposed to feel like.
I'm just wondering, did all of this get approved by Daley? Did he tell Phil to create a unit(s) that would specially do whatever is necessary to lower crime at any means possible? Could this possibly bring down Daley?
Someone finally tells the truth.
6/03/2008 07:36:00 AM
Are u kidding me? What a freaking tool. You're broke, the wife is ugly, you hate the job (and yourself) and you blame other coppers for your ills. It is tough times, but the strong will survive and continue to do their jobs. Be glad you're making 75K a year (more if you went to court) and try living within your means. Take a step back, realize the city is a joke (court system primarily)and we are pawns. Play the game, test for better positions, have a few laughs and get ready for a national meltdown that will affect us all... President Obama... I hope not.
Be safe all.
I hope M.T. goes down. He will get rid of PPO for anything and now it's his turn.
6/03/2008 02:22:00 PM
You bitch when the non-qualified hit the streets, the one's that were fired all deserved it. Their abrubt career change saved many officers from getting hurt.
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BS, i witnessed a couple good future coppers get fired and tons of useless PO's hit the streets.
Someone please explain the connection between putting a gun on a mope who dropped it or being told to get 4 guns a period . . . . . and having a million USC in ill-gotten assets? There is none. All you lazy, no balls motherfuckers stand there outside Starbucks and pass your cowardice off as genius. You never had the balls to chase a shithead with a pistol down an alley at 2am...and you know it. The fact is you never had the guts to put a shithead where he belongs and you use Finnigan & Herrera as justification for this. Finnigan et al are not jammed up for putting asshole's jab or asshole's pistol in asshole's pocket; they're jammed up for being kidnappers and stick up men. Jerry ain't locked up for being the balls to the wall copper he was, Jerry is locked up for becoming the criminal that he is. Unless of course you can show me that aggressive police work leads to criminal behaviour. 95% of you motherfuckers couldn't find a dope dealer, much less rob one. All you spineless pussies can kiss my ass. One of you bitches will get on here and talk about your million arrests and they were all done right, blah, blah. Type what you want, a coward knows their own heart.
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Your one hundred percent right. I agree with you. What does chasing dude with a pistol have to do with stealing money. Jerry and little jerry wanna be were nothing but crooks. There no better then dude standing on the corner hustling dope on the streets.
Hey Northside, GET A LIFE....
Are they ever going make any arrests in the Officer Vasquez homicide?
Rodriguez did drink too much and he did freeload at Milito's and everywhere else but he did not do anything to protect any outfit creature as he did not have the balls too protect anyone.
That was a story created by someone he promoted who was jealous he did not have his job and who did a hatchet job on him in the Tribune. Again Rodriguez did not have the balls too demote this slimebag.
Quick to jump!!
The memo means nothing... There was a confidential long before any memo. IAD was working on it and putting a case together when the $5!t hit the fan. DK and MT are covered. Except for a little bad judgement,(admin stuff) but no wrong doing...
Unless you know something for a fact do a little more listening and little less talking.
The Bad guys here a Finnigan and his crew, don't forget that!!!!
Stay thirsty my friends.
Wrong!
I'm sure our inept CIS didn't have any knowledge of anything until the Feds started indicting dudes. They beat us to the punch everytime. it is quite emabarrassing.
I worked 11 back them. Rick was Simm's bagman. You got to hand it John Northern tho. He was always making felony pinches and chasing the in progress calls and 10-1 calls. I still remember when he pinched the drivers of 3 different stolen Caddillacs in 1 tour. We called it the hat trick. I don't think he knew there was corruption around him. On the homicides with the offender in custody, the sgts. would sometimes let the beat assigned let John write the case report cuz he was good on paper and liked writing. We worked rogether a few times.
Smart great cop. Rick was a great guy to have on our side.
4:49 AM
You are speaking of Ray the Rat Risley.
Sneed reports today that J-Fed is bringing a retired FBI agent to IAD.
Instead of hiring retired FBI agents he should search out the individuals who apparently did all that good work in IAD under Rodriguez. They would understand the Department.
Northside,
You're right, "Rick" was a "man's man" and a 'kick-ass cop" back in the day, but he was also the "Outfit's muscle" on the westside. In the 60's, you could always find "Rick" at Chuck English's hot dog stand by Marshal H.S., getting his marching orders for the day. Everone knew it but no one cared, especially the bosses, who were also fronting for the outfit.
My first post stands with no apology to you or anyone else.
6/03/2008 10:58:00 PM
Go away and I will put you in for Lieutenant.
to 03jun08 117pm,you a spin doctor or a CE basher?Funny thing,I heard his conversation with the saturation po's and he talked about his guys and no one was ripped a new asshole,and did you hear the chase spin doctor?899 called the chase only after the po's said the reason for the chase was"traffic at this time",and 40mph?come on,59th to 61st in 3-5 seconds,anyway spinner,in the end it all worked out,dude got what was coming to him and all po's went home safe.
No problem CE........get back to grooming your mustace and pulling activity sheets
How about this for a scandal, Jerry Finigan was put in for meritorious Det. 3 or 4 times by you know who "Cline". Before he became the SUP.
6/03/2008 10:19:00 PM
SHIT====MOTHER FUCKER!!!
you call that a "scandal????"
Its a fucking shame he was never promoted!!! They should of made him freakin superintendent!!!!!
Hang in there jerry!!! 4464 forever!!!!! long live the 153!!!
Who is Kirby married to?
Whatever you want to say about Bridget in this case she was just being a mother. The dicks were pussies for getting the CR.
Oh yeah, so being the person's mother gives you carte blance to be a total a-hole? Get the f*ck out of here. Just b/c ur the mother of a shit bag doesn't give you the right to act like an animal when said shitbag gets arrests. Act like a damn human being, control your emotions, and deal with it in court.
To the poster who said McLaughlin "was just being a mother" and that the Area 2 dicks were pussies for getting a CR number on her, get your facts straight. It was not the dicks, it was commanders and above who decided to get the cr number. Her kid was in a scary spot if you are the parent. Considering who the victim was and the possible consequences, wow. I understand that. Get him a lawyer, fine. But she was an IAD investigator and acted as unprofessionally as I have ever seen anyone act. And her job at the time was to investigate police officers conduct and suggest disciple against them? Can you say double standard.
anonymous said...
Maybe a dumb question maybe not....Are the statute of limitations up on 99 percent of what they sau happened??? Like I said I'm curious I don't know how long fed time is compared to state
6/03/2008 09:23:00 AM
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There is no statute of limitations on some things like murder, treason and Official Misconduct.
6/03/2008 06:56:00 PM
Thanks, but then why is Burge home free then???
First who ever it is bashing offficer James B. Davis (Gloves) hasn't got a clue. He was the best in what he did and never, I repeat never resorted to physical force unless it was absolutely necessary. I worked with him and I'm white. He did more good by accident than most did intentionally.
Second to Northside you sir are mistaken in regards to Gloves armament on the raid it was Det. Gorman that was armed with the Thompson not Gloves. Gloves had his airborne carbine with him. As I was there and a member of the unit at the time of the raid. In addition to the person bitching about the money its the typical city mentality just pay the money to Jeffery Haas Flint Taylor and the rest of his scum associates.
If you remember the state conspiracy trial was a directed verdict of not guilty by Judge Phillip Romitti and the federal violation of civil rights was the same by Judge Perry after the petit jury was hung.
Sergeant retired CPD
FROM 60 MINUTES:
"I'd like to put a picture of myself up on a board, when I was in the academy, smiling, thinking I’m gonna save the world," Herrera says. "And then I'd like to put a picture up of me with my mug shot, not happy, looking miserable, and I'd like to ask them 'Do you guys have any questions? Because I got a lot of answers for all those questions whatever question you have I’m gonna have an answer for.' And they’re gonna learn from me. I know they would."
yeah Kieth, I have a question... what part of "go get guns and lock up jagoffs" can be translated into: "go steal, and lie, and be a rat to save your own skin"?
Poster about the chase: I understand about the chase being terminated so soon being bullshit, but it is the department we work for. Someone died and you want to bitch about the pussy terminated it? I bet the officers who were originally involved and met with a sup prior to th crash are thanking God that they are not culpable right now..... It sucks, is bullshit, and the WC should have tried to right things instead of bitching, but everyone would/will be in Fedeal Court because of it. Everyone involved, including Sir Pussy, will be in court because shithead's family and the families of the two other occupants are going to sue the City because the big bad corrupt CPD chased them and made them crash. They are just victims. You know who skates with no punitive damages, SIR PUSSY!!!
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I love it, while in the commision of a crime (the above posting thinks it ok not to stop these assholes criminal actions due to lawsuits), your rights can be violated, or you can sue the police for discharging an illegal gun driving 80mph and crash-its now the police officers fault or the city? Why can't we as dept sue all these criminals for living?
I blame our legal system, the Federal courts should not take these cases, and the cook county judges also need to throw these cases out of court.
Fuck, why did anyone call this in, or follow ,or care. Next time let em shoot at people and crash, and at the end. Two reports. One 99B Traffic Crash and the other a case report to an Agg Assualt w/ a handgun.
This the police the city wants. Unless the city says fuck off to these CR# and lawsuits, the above is your police action (and medical atten) is all to be taken.
Did they dump all the homicides around 42nd and ashland? OOOO, that's right it just allways smells bad there!
Enter Oak Woods Cemetary from 67th & Greenwood. Bear off to the rt on Memorial Dr. for about a quarter mile. On the rt, you will see the tomb of the late Harold Washington. Walk anout 25 yards south and look for a granite grave stone waiting as Martin's gate to hell.
DEAR SUPERINTENDENT-
PLEASE ASK DEB KIRBY WHY SHE DIDNT TESTIFY AT OFFICER KRUPA'S CRIMINAL TRIAL?
HOW COULD SHE BE PROMOTED TO GENERAL COUNSEL AFTER GROSSLY MISHANDLING THAT FIASCO? OR IS THAT WHY SHE GOT PROMOTED?
ISN'T THE 1.5 MILLION LAWSUIT KRUPA FILED NAMING HER STILL OPEN?
Your one hundred percent right. I agree with you. What does chasing dude with a pistol have to do with stealing money. Jerry and little jerry wanna be were nothing but crooks. There no better then dude standing on the corner hustling dope on the streets.
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Your heart is right but your off the mark, they are a lot different from the dude hustling on the corner. They were policemen who plotted the murder of four other policemen..That is, as my football coach used to say, "lower then whale shit." May they rot in jail forever and become intimate with big Bubba and ALLLLLL his friends...
Thanks, but then why is Burge home free then???
6/04/2008 12:26:00 PM
Cause he hasn't been convicted of anything and the Official Misconduct statute wasn't in existence then
2:06 PM
So Martin wants to be buried next to his clout.
On a later thread, the GLOCK comes up. Glock gave Martin a free one and he had an A/D in his office at 1121. The gunshot scared the shit out of everybody. Story was that he tried to shake down Glock for cash to authorize their weapons. Glock told him to go to Hell.
Martin was the most hated soup of our time a real 1st-class prick.
I'm black and retired. He screwed me out of my lt. bar with his NOTIFY THE WATCH CMDR. trick.
Who is Kirby married to?
6/04/2008 11:01:00 AM
Isn't married. Lives with a guy that looks overall somewhat like former Chief of Staff Michael D. Boyce, which is Irish-American Caucasian, balding, broke down and apparently without a clue. I hope he can afford the mortgage payment by himself!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Are they ever going make any arrests in the Officer Vasquez homicide?
6/04/2008 02:58:00 AM
Are you confessing?
Oh yeah, so being the person's mother gives you carte blance to be a total a-hole? Get the f*ck out of here. Just b/c ur the mother of a shit bag doesn't give you the right to act like an animal when said shitbag gets arrests. Act like a damn human being, control your emotions, and deal with it in court.
To the poster who said McLaughlin "was just being a mother" and that the Area 2 dicks were pussies for getting a CR number on her, get your facts straight. It was not the dicks, it was commanders and above who decided to get the cr number. Her kid was in a scary spot if you are the parent. Considering who the victim was and the possible consequences, wow. I understand that. Get him a lawyer, fine. But she was an IAD investigator and acted as unprofessionally as I have ever seen anyone act. And her job at the time was to investigate police officers conduct and suggest disciple against them? Can you say double standard
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Wow! It's too bad that you guys wouldn't have the balls to stand up for your kid.
Family first guys.
1:12 PM
I stand corrected. Gorman did have the Thompson. "Gloves" was a legend and a great guy.
You guys and a certain unnamed friend who infiltrated the Panthers did us proud. Well done!
10:38 PM (the "Gloves" basher) is a phony coward who gave a bogus eMail address. Ignore the fool, Sarge.
(Is that you, Danny G.?)
Rest In Peace:
Off. John Gilhooly, 002
Off. Frank Rappaport, 003
eMail me at cpdfop7@yahoo.com
Anonymous said...
Thanks, but then why is Burge home free then???
6/04/2008 12:26:00 PM
Cause he hasn't been convicted of anything and the Official Misconduct statute wasn't in existence then
6/04/2008 05:15
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Thanks again. So basically if they hate you or think you did wrong as a copper they can go get you 15 years later in Florida under blanket Official misconduct? Even though you are not sworn as an officer anymore? I mean we are still Americans with const. rights? Just grasping this.
TThe reason we have a retired FBI Chief as Supt is because of the Rick Millers the Joe Miejanewskis, John Galligan, Pacman, Corey B, Gloves Davis the supa oncle tom, the Finnigans etc.
I am glad dammit that a FED has marched into the CPD like a "Texas Ranger" to clean up this damn job. I only wish that the SUPT would bring back Charlie Williams to IAD as a consultant. He locked up 90 percent of the bad polices that have been sent to jail during the last 20 years. When he was a PO at IAD I worked special employment in housing with him a few times. He was a brilliant cat. That boy knew how to be the police. I met Gloves Davis when he worked as a State Parole Officer. It was like meeting OJ Simpson. Same thing with Rick Miller at the Washington/Pine hotel he ran before the Drug Enforcement of America Agency took his old ass down. Meeting him was like meeting John Wayne Gacy. Kinfolk of mine told me back in the day Miller was like a brutal slave overseer. It would be about as pleasant meeting Miller and Davis as it would be for FOP 7 to endure a 3 hour truth and reconciliation meeting with retired detective Pat Hill. Anyway Rick Miller actually survived federal prison and was released within the last five years. So maybe you guys can catch up with him.
CLOUTLESS AND SLEEPLESS IN FILLMO
Z-7: 321?
321: 321.
Z-7: 321, check out a large group of men drinking and unrinating at 6920 Ellis.
321: That's a bad address, squad. It's in the Oakwoods graveyard.
Z-7: I know. Check it out. Complainant Martin.
321: Squad, we've got a TVB. We're going into 3.
I still believe that J-Fed should be hiring retired CPD officers instead of retired FBI officers.
Anyway Rick Miller actually survived federal prison and was released within the last five years. So maybe you guys can catch up with him.
CLOUTLESS AND SLEEPLESS IN FILLMO
6/04/2008 06:55:00 PM
He in fact was released on 3-14-2005 and he is currently 81 years old according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
To northside sorry it would be great if it worked that way but Danny G. is gone, left us awhile back. Seeing another post the only thing I can think is that Gloves must have took good care of the complainer in a special way.
Sergeant retired CPD
People that type only in caps are very insecure people.
Read your General Orders kids. If a copper gets 3 beefs in a short period of time, a computer generated report is sent to their C/O for review. That C/O determines if the Officer should be put on Behavioral Alert-Personnel Concerns, etc. Just how is it that these officers- with all of their complaints- were never counseled? Add this to the court deviations, and civil suits and what do you have? Business as usual in the CPD.
Charles Williams was not the investigator in any case in which a CPD officer was charged with a crime.
He might of been part of an arrest team but he did not do any of the leg work.
To notrthside:
get your facts right . Hampton was comotose and didnt fire a shot that is why the city had to settle . The panthers didnt kill any cops it was the stones, Gds.rick was mobbed up and a disgrace to the badge , just like Austin 7 Finn and the rest of these mopes.good riddens
Who is Kirby married to?
6/04/2008 11:01:00 AM
Isn't married. Lives with a guy that looks overall somewhat like former Chief of Staff Michael D. Boyce, which is Irish-American Caucasian, balding, broke down and apparently without a clue. I hope he can afford the mortgage payment by himself!
6/04/2008 05:49:00 PM
They reciently tied the knot;
6:01 AM
As I wrote earlier, I am NOT going to get into a pissing match with you and your ilk about the Black Panthers or the unrelated life of the late Rick Miller.
Using GOOGLE, I suggest that you read "The Black Panthers and the Police: A Pattern of Genocide?" by Edward Jay Epstein which appeared in the February 13, 1971 issue of the New Yorker magazine.
On November 13, 1969, three weeks before the Monroe St. raid, Black Panther Spurgeon "Jake" Winters shot and killed Officers John Gilhooly and Frank Rappaport in 002. The Panthers later named their North Lawndale and Uptown "free clinics" after Winters who was killed by responding CPD.
Kenny Kaner, a 011 colleague who transferred to 007, was shot and killed by Panthers in a drive-by at 74th & Union as he was writing a case report. Meanwhile, 007 Tac Officers Carl Malik and Brown made a street stop of an auto 3 blocks away. It was only then that they monitored the call of "A Police Officer Shot". They made one of the greatest arrests imaginable, recovering the shotgun used to blow Kenny's head off.
This does not include the non-fatal shootings of Terry Knox (005) and partners Dan Sampila and Kenny Gorles (011) by Black Panthers.
The sniper murders of three CPD also occurred. Jim Severin, Tony Rizzato and Jim Alfano were murdered in ambush by the Stones.
You further claim that in the pre-dawn raid, Panthers Hampton and Clark (who fired the FIRST shot at the CPD) had been drugged by Seconal or other barbiturates, self-induced or otherwise. You neglected to mention that the toxicological reports by both Cook Co. and the FBI detected no evidence of drugs in the corpses of Hampton and Clark.
Finally, while I had all positive experiences with Rick Miller before 1970 in 011, I will give but one:
While working solo in 011, I curbed a stolen auto and cuffed the occupant. As I waited for back-up. a mob led by Panther Bobby Rush surrounded me. They were intent on "liberating" my prisoner and disarming me of my guns. In fear of my life and only seconds away from shots fired, who shows up to my 10-1? BIG RICK!
Rush and that mob of muthafuckers sprinted away in world record time. One in custody at 011 followed by lunch with Rick.
6:01 AM
Spoken like a dyed-in-the-wool Black Panther with serious grammar, spelling and punctuation problems.
"Good riddens"? Yikes, another Chicago Public School example heard from. RIDDANCE
Jon Burge is home free because he has never been convicted of anything!
The political hacks on the police board fired him.
Every court that has reviewed Burge's cases has found no merit in the complaints against him and /or his Dets.
Chicago has a few more immediate problems than forever rehashing 25 years old bogas complaints brought by rapacious lawyers who's only interest is cash!
"I was "the straight arrow college kid with the captain daddy who was always locking up bad guys".
Ahhh Some things never change...
"Some things never change." - 6:39 PM
And your point is???
They reciently tied the knot;
6/05/2008 08:19:00 AM
Well, he must be in love, because, to be as kind as possible, she is looking a bit long in the tooth, but the income and bank account probably proved to be irresistable!
SHIT====MOTHER FUCKER!!!
you call that a "scandal????"
Its a fucking shame he was never promoted!!! They should of made him freakin superintendent!!!!!
Hang in there jerry!!! 4464 forever!!!!! long live the 153!!!
6/04/2008 10:07:00 AM
HOLY FUCKING DOUCHEBAG.
"Wow! It's too bad that you guys wouldn't have the balls to stand up for your kid.
Family first guys."
Not just standing up for the kid. Unless I personally know and trust the arresting/investigating officer(s), standing up for the kid against the unknown in the CPD. The unknown in the CPD can be very, very scary. Clout supervisors, clout dicks, people who had no business getting on the job let alone promoted.
I'm with you brother or sister. No way do you not stand up for the kid against the unknown in the CPD.
How in the world does anyone sane come to a different conclusion if they know the possibilities of the unknown in the CPD first hand?
Rick Miller passed away a couple years ago after being released from prison. Complications from diabetes.
At one time, he was a very good police officer. Rest in Peace.
Anonymous said...
And by the way many coppers worship at Saint Sabina and at Trinity.
Happy House Mouse
6/03/2008 07:15:00 AM..................... Lets see if a black priest working in a all white parish called Obama an arrogant black elitist who thinks he’s better than all, you would call him an "uncle tom" Oh the hypocrisy!!!!!
Wrong! Black billionaire Bob Johnson called Sen. Obama everthing,and the media barely played it. Probably because he supported Hillary.
They all get taken care of. Thats just the way it is. Hiram Grau...BooHoo!...Yeah right...He got dumped, retired with a huge pension and is already working for the Kennedys as Director of Security at the Merchandise Mart. All you gold stars just keep your mouths shut, don't rat each other out and we'll make sure you leave with a golden parachute and land in a pile of money somewhere. Examples: Tom Thumb ($152K Dept of Transportation), Karen Rowan ($172K CTA), Hiram, Killackey ($115K OEMC), Peska (Water dept), kurowski (OEMC), Starks (Commission on minority B.S. $129K), Richardson (UIC), Kajari (UIC), madren johnson (pension, no prison and a CHA job right out of 002), Lt & Mrs Blake (Med Sec, pensions and no prison..yet), Malone (Parole supervisor), POS Cynthia White, all the FOP board members after they're done "representing" us and on and on and on....not to mention we'll take care of your kids, your wives, your friends, yo baby's mamas et. al. while they're on the job and give them the same sweet deal later. So just leave those skeletons lay and PLAY BALL!
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