HQ Sabotaged?
The I-CLEAR system was down for 8-10 hours Sunday because of word of an explosion in the computer room. Now it seems that something more sinister was afoot:
- Why were ETs called to recover evidence?
- Why was the building locked down for hours?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 7:27 AM
99 Comments:
Everyone run. Bin-Laden is here.
Kill this rumor now. Last week everyone who has a department e-mail was given a heads up that the system would be down for a tune up. Even the bosses "dingleberry's" were out of service. No command decision's were made during the down time. these knuckleheads can't think without em' now.
Is this like the OEC transformer story a few years back? Where huberman said -opps-we forgot to get a second/back up transformer?
Word on the street was that we were hacked into and no one would admit it..."National Security" ya know...
Now what will this story be?
Next time tell your felon-cops to keep their mouths shut about our community(manure and computers dont mix).
Unlike your Bridgeport dagos, we dont sleep w/our 1st cousins anymore.......................
computer system was trying to be more agressive and when told it was going to be: spar'd, CR'd, stripped, ordered to blow AND sent to call back it SHUT DOWN.
go figure. Lost in Fillmore
Wasn't there an "explosion"/fire in the Crook County Administration bldg too?
THERE WAS NO SABOTAGE, SHUT DOWN BECAUSE SEISER IS ON FURLOUGH, HE WILL RETURN ON 05JUN08. SEISER STILL RUNS IT.
Two Chicago police officers were seriously injured and three others were also hospitalized when a minivan blew a red light causing a crash on the Southwest Side Sunday night.
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God be with these officers
Crimefile posted the entire 60 Minutes video story on Herrera.
www.crimefilenews.com
Speaking of explosions, the time has come to blow this clout-infested job to Kingdom Come.
With the 60 MINUTES piece, the iron is now in the fire for millions of outsiders to watch.
Local media only gives a wink with tongue in cheek. Seize this precious opportunity NOW!
The persons in charge were unable to complete a switch to paper arrests. So instead the department issued out an Overtime event number and let PO's stay an extra tour while they waited for the computers to be fixed. I guess all the bosses with all there rules can't even come up with a legitimate back up plan in for this kind of event. How much did that cost in OT because they have no plan. Where is the accountability. O'yea clout bosses are not accountable!!!! in the city that works.
I had an arrest at 0800, could not get my arrestee in the lockup until 1700. Sat there all that time with arrestee. Didn't mind the OT but HQ would not authorize going back to paper.
OFF TOPIC
4 ON and 2 OFF-- 8 hours per day. It's called a
"stress week." Nice schedule, you’re off before you
know it. J-Fed and Donahue please consider it.
Everything being taken into account this is a great
schedule for both the Patrolmen and the city. The
Patrolmen finally eliminate not only the six day but
the fifth day too, less days worked in a row means
less overall stress. For the city the schedule is easy
to implement, has the same number of off-groups, the
same number of hours for time due, the same overtime
rate and the same number of furlough days. Everybody
wins….Think about it.
Homer fell asleep again ....
OT,Today I bought my "LAST" city sticker,in a few months I'll be drinking my coffee,reading this blog and looking out my window thanking the good Lord I'm no longer a citizen of this once great
city/county/state.
And I'll be watching this city burn while the stuttering midget plays his fiddle.Stay safe,and stay strong, hang in there your day will come when you too can hang up the star.
Gee that's funny. I got an email saying the server was going to be down for weekly maintenance a few days earlier.
Noooooooo! How are they going to keep the kool aid cold????
Maybe the POD cameras got so tired of looking at parkers and drinkers that they caused a short in protest....
We were told that a coppper pulled the fire alarm, causing water to damage the system.
I wouldn't call it sabotage. ISD uses outdated servers, equipment that should be replaced, but the guy running the division is too worried about the stupid f*cking pod cameras to give two sh*ts.
J-Fed will be living in seclusion on the East Coast by Labor Day.
That Herrera is trying to blame it on the bosses. Bullshit.
They made their own bed. Now lie in it, RATS!
Who fucking cares? I stopped. No reason to give a fat fuck any longer.
Sorry off topic: Thanks to all who attended and supported the benefit for the wife and daughter of Paul Clisham, yesterday at Bourbon Street. It was a tremendous turnout and showing of support. As a member of the committee and friend of the family your support was wonderful and very much appreciated!!!!! Yesterday was another day in many that I was proud to be a Chicago Police officer... thanks again and stay safe...
waiting for the shoe to drop....
The shredders got overheated in IAD.Destroying all the SOS files. Covering up all the bullshit Tobias,Kirby,Cline,Radke,Cronin pulled to protect the Home Invasion/Robbery Crew.
Bomb and arson collects evidence for those type of events, e.t.'s for everything else.
ABC7 news at 4:00pm reports that 19 American troops were killed in Iraq in the Month of May. What is the death toll in Chicago for the same period?
I think it's clear, those of us who live in Chicago, have a greater risk of being killed, than combat troops serving in Iraq.
Chicago is more violent than Iraq
Computers were adjusting the crime statistics.
Homicides will now be down compared to last year's bogus count.
If it were a so called tune up why then was everyone in HQ scrambling to find the nit wit who last .,nevermind, yeah it was a tune up (wink, wink)......
this shit goes down almost EVERY night for at least an hour. Try processing an arrest when it hits midnight, its a damn joke. Go back to paper, shit was way faster and easier. i get a kick out of them telling us we went to computers to speed up the process and eliminate paper. All we did was create more paper and longer arrests. And if u work in any district with shit lockup keepers that dick around and want to watch movies and take their sweet time, u are truly fucked! Anyone ever deal with a district like this? Hmmm i can think of a few, but 018 midnights sticks out!
If your still doing a "drop" case or OOT, expect to be interviewed by Katie Couric a couple year from now.
Kill this rumor now. Last week everyone who has a department e-mail was given a heads up that the system would be down for a tune up. Even the bosses "dingleberry's" were out of service. No command decision's were made during the down time. these knuckleheads can't think without em' now.
6/02/2008 07:51:00 AM
If that's the case how come they emailed several exempts asking them if their Blackberry's were working?
I am sure it was a computer problem and not sabotage but you neber know.
yes it is true, the month in Iraq was less deadly than here, and we have way, way more gun laws here than over there.
Officer K.H. claimed that Officer J.F. did a paint job to the computer room because Officer J.F. did not like the way his mugshot picture looked on 60 Minutes.
Officer K.H. still being the "cop" he is, went to J-Fed and notified J-Fed of this action that Officer J.F. was doing.
Officer K.H. stated that he knew that computer room, and the computer room's brother, the power room and went to birhday parties in these rooms and would not let Officer J.F. do a piant job on these rooms!
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/982843,wkndviolence060208.article
I love it. Great idea getting the Fed to run the department and jamming discipline up the working copper's ass. Oh thats right Richie, we are just a bunch of dumb cops (even though I know quite a few who passed the bar exam the FIRST time).
A guy I knew in the A/1 dick HQ sabotaged ALL the homicide files from the computers...boy, were those clout three hour work a-day administrative people pissed-off about re-doing paper files back to the computers......!!!!!!
This is done for a reason Remember when we all had to get New employee numbers about 4 years ago. My understanding was the dept was able to do away with information SOMEONE might need. The medical section was able to loose files in regards to IOD'S a word to the wise keep copies and files otherwise if you need them for whatever reason the dept will then claim they know nothing.You will be surprised at what a white shirt will put in your employee or medical files without your knowledge yet until you need those files you will never know . Request copies every couple of years VIA the freedom of information act keep them in a safe place.98% of us do not do it. I did some years back sure enough I had false negative remarks place in my file's. Protect your selfs boys and girls.
Next time tell your felon-cops to keep their mouths shut about our community(manure and computers dont mix).
Unlike your Bridgeport dagos, we dont sleep w/our 1st cousins anymore.......................
6/02/2008 09:16:00 AM
Hey Jagoff! Uh! Don't confuse Bridgeport with Canaryville! Totally different animal.
You must be the Sissy North Side, drunk ass Cub fan that has pissed on a few lawns in your time.
KEEP UP THE BULLSHIT WITH NO CONTRACT!
COMMON PRACTICE FOR ANGRY EMPLOYEES TO BEGIN TO DESTROY A COMPANY FROM WITHIN.
DONT DOUBT IT....
That Herrera is trying to blame it on the bosses. Bullshit.
They made their own bed. Now lie in it, RATS!
6/02/2008 01:05:00 PM
OK BOSS! Wrong you white shirts condone and encourage PO'S to circumvent the constitution. Get a clue, the means does not justify the end.your ridiculous you know how this department works. Wink, wink team player and on and on. The officers that refuse are fucked with and looked at as malcontents. Ask AE who was Clines girl she did her share of cover-up for the company.
The shredders got overheated in IAD.Destroying all the SOS files. Covering up all the bullshit Tobias,Kirby,Cline,Radke,Cronin pulled to protect the Home Invasion/Robbery Crew.
Truth be told.
Number US Military Deaths in Iraq in month or March: 21
Number of civilian deaths on streets of Chicago in month of March: 36.
Does this mean that Obama will begin calling for a surrender and pull out of City of Chicago forces from streets of Chicago too?
It is more dangerous to be a citizen on the streets of Chicago than being on a tour of duty in Iraq.
When will the pullout from Chicago begin?? Oh, i forgot, most of the killings occur in the district that Obama represented as a state senator.
If Barack could not control the terrorists BGDs and GDs in his district how is he going to hold up facing down Al Qaeda?
well, we do have a coyote problem here. did anyone find a box with acme co. on it? was the roadrunner there too? mmbeep mmbeep
Next time tell your felon-cops to keep their mouths shut about our community(manure and computers dont mix).
Unlike your Bridgeport dagos, we dont sleep w/our 1st cousins anymore.......................
6/02/2008 09:16:00 AM
Hey Jagoff! Uh! Don't confuse Bridgeport with Canaryville! Totally different animal.
You must be the Sissy North Side, drunk ass Cub fan that has pissed on a few lawns in your time.
6/02/2008 07:51:00 PM
Why you gotta slam the Italians right away? Jeeeeeeesh.
OK BOSS! Wrong you white shirts condone and encourage PO'S to circumvent the constitution. Get a clue, the means does not justify the end.your ridiculous you know how this department works. Wink, wink team player and on and on. The officers that refuse are fucked with and looked at as malcontents. Ask AE who was Clines girl she did her share of cover-up for the company.
6/02/2008 07:56:00 PM
AE????!!!!
She wasn't that smart.
I heard ShavedLongcock was running naked in the computer room and got tangled up in the wires! Not good!
This hurts other departments to, the department I work for uses ICLEAR on a daily basis...
OT -
Check out this article from Portland, Oregon about Obama campaign.
http://www.policelink.com/news/26729-obama-uses-police-memorial-for-porta-potties
Moe, Larry, cheese!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I had an arrest at 0800, could not get my arrestee in the lockup until 1700. Sat there all that time with arrestee. Didn't mind the OT but HQ would not authorize going back to paper.
6/02/2008 10:09:00 AM
A good lawyer will get the arrestee(s) some $$$.
The department, according to another poster, knew ahead of time that the system would be down.
So due process is delayed because the department has no back up plan.
What kind of shit storm would a P.O. be in if he didn't process a prisoner for nine hours?
Someone pulled an alarm on the third floor in the computer room, and everything got sprayed with the powder that they use for electricial fires (I forget what the stuff is called, but it is in all of the new buildings).
--Number US Military Deaths in Iraq in month or March: 21
Number of civilian deaths on streets of Chicago in month of March: 36.
Does this mean that Obama will begin calling for a surrender and pull out of City of Chicago forces from streets of Chicago too?
It is more dangerous to be a citizen on the streets of Chicago than being on a tour of duty in Iraq.--
A few corrections to the benefit of your math, and you would still be wrong.
The news I read was 19 soldiers in Iraq in May, of which 14 or 15 were combat related. Lets go with 14.
14 over 140000 U.S. troops in the country is .01%
36 Chicagoans over a population of 2.9 million (approximate) is .0012%
You wouldn't be the guy who counts the votes for Daley on election day by chance, would you?
I had an arrest at 0800, could not get my arrestee in the lockup until 1700. Sat there all that time with arrestee. Didn't mind the OT but HQ would not authorize going back to paper.
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That is awesome. What a bunch of fucks. Instead of saying "yes" and getting you back on the street and saving in OT, they keep you sitting for hours. It would take that arrestee to win a lawsuit and have a court order for our CPD to go to paper within a few hours. A bunch of non-cop yes men at city hall. My lord HQ must be as a dept store, with those people who don't want to work and just say "no" because they might have to do something. I wish the person who said no to you from HQ was fired years back in the academy.
HQ was down because one of the know-nothing wanna-be network idiots activated the halon system which in turn shut off the entire computer room. No explosion, just halon filling the room.
"Out of Chicago Now!!! This is what democracy looks like!!!"
There was a fax sent out that stated no paper arrest processing unless authorized by HQ. That authorization never came. I made sure to save a copy of it too.
yep, some douche set off the fire suppression system. they should be glad it was clean halon and not water or dry powder. all that halon will rip the ozone layer a new one. i wonder how much theyll pay to refill the fire system, halon costs 75 dollars a pound with EPA taxes and the systems are charged with about 400 lbs
1057am
i cant find the any key
i heard a relative of the guy who fried himself stealing wires on the west side was working on the computers and well you can just figure out from there why we needed an et.
Here's the truth behind the computer debacle at HQ:
JFED was courteous enough to engage in reach-arounds while systematically anally christening the latest round of merit sergeants. The resulting discharges gummed-up the worn, delicate circa-1980 computer systems that Mayor Daley paid 400 times too much for.
There was an incident in the computer room. The Halon Gas which is installed in case of a fire discharged, unknown why it did so. The electrical system is designed to shut down in the event of a fire so there is no juice going to the serveres and other equipment. An RD was pulled and an ET was requested to locate any prints on the manual release switch for the Halon Gas.
Do a PCAD search, it will give you the event and RD Number.
The departments response was pretty dismal, just goes to show you how dependant they've become on technology.
Nice smear job on FOX tonight.... Real nice you lowlife fuckers!!!!Hope you don't need any help in the ghetto....
Your friend Obama http://www.policelink.com/news/26729-obama-uses-police-memorial-for-porta-potties
Sounds like the computer system got the Blue Flu too...
That or the Daley Virus.
I don't know about you guys but i'm gonna curl up in a nice afghan blanket,finish reading a danielle steele novel then fall asleep to some Yani
E.T. - You're a short, little piece of shit BITCH!
"6/02/2008 11:03:00 PM"
And they say 'they don't make 'em like they used to....'
Anonymous said...
--Number US Military Deaths in Iraq in month or March: 21
Number of civilian deaths on streets of Chicago in month of March: 36.
Does this mean that Obama will begin calling for a surrender and pull out of City of Chicago forces from streets of Chicago too?
It is more dangerous to be a citizen on the streets of Chicago than being on a tour of duty in Iraq.--
A few corrections to the benefit of your math, and you would still be wrong.
The news I read was 19 soldiers in Iraq in May, of which 14 blah blah
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...Both of you nut jobs are wrong.
14 soldiers out 140000 is .1% versus 0 P.O's out of 13,500 police officers is 0% or 36 civilian deaths in march in chicago out of 2.3 million versus 100's civilian deaths in iraq out of 26 million. you do the math, i'm tired good night
Please abstain from referring to all bosses as Dingleberry... That title is reserved for A/1 G-N T--M LT.
HELLO DINGLEBERRY!!!!
anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC
4 ON and 2 OFF-- 8 hours per day. It's called a
"stress week." Nice schedule, you’re off before you
know it. J-Fed and Donahue please consider it.
Everything being taken into account this is a great
schedule for both the Patrolmen and the city. The
Patrolmen finally eliminate not only the six day but
the fifth day too, less days worked in a row means
less overall stress. For the city the schedule is easy
to implement, has the same number of off-groups, the
same number of hours for time due, the same overtime
rate and the same number of furlough days. Everybody
wins….Think about it.
6/02/2008 10:27:00 AM
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Also has 18 extra days off a year which the city will not just give us. Next idea?
Computer system is run by police bosses and staffed by police employees. Does anyone need further explanation why it is all fucked up?
The city has spent so much on outdated computer systems bought from clout heavy so-called "minority" businesses and then let new servers sit in storage room and not installed until they are obsolete.
First digital mug shot system was also a scam and no good and was replaced quickly after. That was bought from Sayers Computer Co. Yes, as in Gale. Do you really think Gale Sayers owned and operated the thing? He was a minority front man for the clout guys, as usual. Feds didn't notice that one.
OK BOSS! Wrong you white shirts condone and encourage PO'S to circumvent the constitution. Get a clue, the means does not justify the end.your ridiculous you know how this department works. Wink, wink team player and on and on. The officers that refuse are fucked with and looked at as malcontents. Ask AE who was Clines girl she did her share of cover-up for the company.
6/02/2008 07:56:00 PM
CREATIVE WRITING ASIDE, THE LAST TIME I CHECKED IT WAS WRONG TO STEAL MONEY AND HOLD PEOPLE HOSTAGE...NO ONE IN THE ACADEMY OR ON THE STREET EVER TAUGHT ME THAT...NO ONE EVER GOT A PAT ON THE BACK OR DEPT. COMENDATION FOR STEALING THE MOST MONEY.....GET A CLUE......"LITTLE JERRY" IS TRYING TO DEFLECT THE BLAME FROM THE TRUE CRIME...
troops serving in Iraq.
Chicago is more violent than Iraq
6/02/2008 04:17:00 PM
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no monkey 19 police were not killed in chicago during may
The feds are great at cover stories. The downtime gave them enough time to load whatever programs they wanted without the transparency of light.
Suckers.
BAWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i was there on sunday. left for lunch when the computers were down and came back in with no problem. building was never on lock down
anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC
4 ON and 2 OFF-- 8 hours per day. It's called a
"stress week." Nice schedule, you’re off before you
know it. J-Fed and Donahue please consider it.
Everything being taken into account this is a great
schedule for both the Patrolmen and the city. The
Patrolmen finally eliminate not only the six day but
the fifth day too, less days worked in a row means
less overall stress. For the city the schedule is easy
to implement, has the same number of off-groups, the
same number of hours for time due, the same overtime
rate and the same number of furlough days. Everybody
wins….Think about it.
6/02/2008 10:27:00 AM
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Also has 18 extra days off a year which the city will not just give us. Next idea?
6/03/2008 01:32:00 AM
I like it ..sounds great !!
By the way...who said anything about GIVE...We TAKE my freind TAKE.
Well, if 5 days a week is the standard, we have been working extra days per year for God knows how long...Trun-about is fair play.
Next time tell your felon-cops to keep their mouths shut about our community(manure and computers dont mix). Unlike your Bridgeport dagos, we dont sleep w/our 1st cousins anymore.......................
We, the sweet-singin' Canaryville man-whores, done felt slighted by dat comment...
computers down again. were supposed to come up at 0630 hrs but were not up as of 0800 hrs. they went down around 0400 hrs
--Both of you nut jobs are wrong.
14 soldiers out 140000 is .1%--
14 is not .1% of 140000.
If it were, than 1% of 140000 would be 140, 10% of 140000 would be 1400, and 100% of 140000 would be 14000.
The first guy might be Daley's votecounter, but I'm betting you are the guy in charge of payrolls.
Otherwise, I sorta agree with you about the differing bases for comparison.
SCC, would you consider maybe adding math to the list of banned items? These guys are giving me a headache.
I don't know about you guys but i'm gonna curl up in a nice afghan blanket,finish reading a danielle steele novel then fall asleep to some Yani
6/02/2008 11:55:00 PM
Sounds good sweetie! I'll be right over. Be ready for my novel shank of steel! Yani, yani, yani!
Signed, P/O George Costanza
Who the fuck is the guy who keeps posting "SEISER RUNS IT". Is it none other than Seiser himself? WTF?
OFF TOPIC POST FROM 025
Dear brothers and sisters:
What will the city do to Massheimer and Knickrehm. They were the two guys who did the paper on th Abate incident? According to the victim (the bartender) she told the R.O.'s that he was a cop, according to the R.O.'s no she did not.
I work in 025 and both of those guys on 2514 are good, honest and ethical cops. There is no way in hell that they would stick up for a piece of shit like Abate. No fucking way.
I hope that they get a fair shake in this deal and nothing happens to them. I hope Jody doesn't get involved in this matter by throwing those two good P.O.'s under the bus. If they do, I will be very pissed.
Hey Jagoff! Uh! Don't confuse Bridgeport with Canaryville! Totally different animal.
You must be the Sissy North Side, drunk ass Cub fan that has pissed on a few lawns in your time.
Hey do you know how to tell the difference between Bridgeport with Canaryville! In Bridgeport they take the dishes out of the kitchen sink before they piss in it.
Who was the idiot sergeant from area 1 who was trying to tell the Bomb & Arson guys who were investigating how and what to do? The guy was a real stroke so apparently he'll make meritorious LT because he be smaaaaaaaaart.
Mr. SouthSide says---
Please do not confuse Canaryville with Bridgeport.
1. We speak a form of English, though not always legible, but still English.
2. No Chinese restaurants nor coffee shops.
3. We have a high school second to none (Tinley). In what they are first in, I have no idea.
HALON
Someone pulled an alarm on the third floor in the computer room, and everything got sprayed with the powder that they use for electricial fires (I forget what the stuff is called, but it is in all of the new buildings).
Yes, I've pissed on lawns, I've pissed on bushes. I've pissed on women, children, weirdos, big strapping guys, Sox fans and Cubs fans and just about everything that walks or crawls and I'm here to piss in you SCC for what you did to my friend J-Fed.
Actually pissing on Cubs fans was alot more fun than Sox fans although they did enjoy it too. Most actually thought they pissed in their own pants, they didn't know the difference.
GONE 7 YEARS BUT DO THE GUYS STILL HAVE TAILGATE PARTIES IN STATIONS PKING LOT ON CHANGE DAY ALAWAYS LOOKED FORWARD TO HANGING OUT WITH THE GUYS AND GALS AFTER A PERIOD
YES BUT WHAT ABOUT UNATURAL ACTS BEING PERFORMED IN THE BUSHES OF MARQUEETE PARK DURING ALL HOURS
"Try processing an arrest when it hits midnight, its a damn joke. Go back to paper, shit was way faster and easier."
True, or why not take the replica of the paper arrest report and put it in computer form.
It would be easier to read and only one page for info/facts by the A/O, and another page for lock-up keeper's observations.
Hey SCC,
Once and for all, let's clarify the difference between those who reside in Bridgeport vs. those who call Canaryville home:
The people in Bridgeport take the dishes out of the sink BEFORE they piss in it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC POST FROM 025
Dear brothers and sisters:
What will the city do to Massheimer and Knickrehm. They were the two guys who did the paper on th Abate incident? According to the victim (the bartender) she told the R.O.'s that he was a cop, according to the R.O.'s no she did not.
I work in 025 and both of those guys on 2514 are good, honest and ethical cops. There is no way in hell that they would stick up for a piece of shit like Abate. No fucking way.
I hope that they get a fair shake in this deal and nothing happens to them. I hope Jody doesn't get involved in this matter by throwing those two good P.O.'s under the bus. If they do, I will be very pissed.
6/03/2008 11:21:00 AM
I agree wholeheartedly. I feel that with all the recent nonsense (Abate incident, Jefferson Park and grill, the SOS scandal, etc...), the city will be hard on us cops if we are implicated in something dubious in which we did not do anything wrong. I hope those two guys get a fair shake and the city doesn't screw them. BTW, that Polish bartender is an illegal alien and she should be deported ASAP.
Get some balls........ 2 hrs down, go to paper.
Very funny 2pm!!
I didnt need to worry.It had no effect on me.I dont lock anyone up. Turn in my one or two parkers and bus check at end of tour and go home.Thats all that matters.I work too damn hard. I need a beer....
4 days on 2 days off sucks...I had that schedule for several years when I worked at the CCDOC. I'll take the 4 ten hour days and 3 off. More days off in a row.Thats what really matters.
Believe me , If those two boys didn't make notifications, do a report , or follow the steps by the book, then they had no knowledge as to Abbate's employment. Those two Gentlemen have the utmost respect for this job and are as credible as you can be.
Anyone who says different is a liar and obviously has not worked with them and does not know them.
GONE 7 YEARS BUT DO THE GUYS STILL HAVE TAILGATE PARTIES IN STATIONS PKING LOT ON CHANGE DAY ALAWAYS LOOKED FORWARD TO HANGING OUT WITH THE GUYS AND GALS AFTER A PERIOD
6/03/2008 02:10:00 PM
No. Bad incident in 025 years ago. Even got the D/C, a prince of a guy, dumped. If at all, somewhere other than the station parking lot and as distant as possible. Besides, change day ain't a real change day anymore.
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