Tuesday, June 24, 2008

Inspirational!

Did you all catch the story about the drive by shooting offenders caught near the movie set of the Johnny Depp film "Public Enemies"? Officer witnesses a bit of gun play, corners the offender's vehicle, holds five individuals until help arrives, then returns to the movie set to finish his job.

If what was related in the comment section is true, we just want to run out and do everything we possibly can for J-Fed, the mayor and the Department:
  • [...] now word is this detective who was working on the movie set and was 10-99 at the time, witnesses a drive by shooting while blocking street traffic for the movie. He cornered the vehicle and was able to keep 5 gang bangers with a gun at bay by himself and called for assistance. Once the on duty district cops showed up, he turned the whole thing over to them and went back to blocking the street.

    His rewards for his efforts? He was told since nobody notified the movie detail unit (the detective did immediately notified his movie detail supervisor sgt, as to what happened with the drive by and arrest) the Commander of Special Events, Cmdr. Gross, had this officer told that he won't be working the movie detail anymore!

    Hmmmmmmmm... makes a great stop and arrest, nobody gets hurt, 5 gang bangers shooting from a car are arrested and the gun with expended shells was recovered and this officer is PUNISHED? This Cmdr Gross should be FIRED! What a pompous asshole!
We can't wait to go to work tomorrow - thanks for the inspiration! Way to take a bit of good news and professional decorum displayed by a guy working his day off and turn it into a great big steaming pile of manure. This is our "leadership."

UPDATE: Comment #16 claims to be the Detective involved. He tells the story as we've heard it from numerous sources with no BS, straight up. We're really and truly inspired now! Go team go!

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120 Comments:

Blogger It's Not All Real said...

Well, the copper did leave his post! He's not supposed to leave his post, he's supposed to be there in case something happens.........wait, doesn't a "driveby" qualify as "something happening?" Isn't he expected to take action?

What the fuck?!?!?

6/24/2008 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And anyone is surprised by this?

6/24/2008 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE:

Anonymous said...
commander Gross was a drinking buddy with former commander michael "Rainbow the Clown" Acosta. enough said!

6/23/2008 10:57:00 PM

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So wonder he is the Commander of the only division of the police department that handles Hollywood and the Arts! Go figures!

6/24/2008 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After reading the original posts about that officer being "banned" from the detail, I also made a few calls to people I know. Usually there is an angle to a story that isn't being told. But from everyone I talked to about this incident, the off duty detective did a great job on this incident and did so bravely.

I have a family member who is an attorney in Chicago and he would like to represent this officer and sue the department for any losses from future work with this movie detail. He believes its a greay case.

6/24/2008 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous s.w.a.t. cop said...

I went to the Internet and played the video clip from the news about this incident. It looked like the caught the officer working the movie detail the day after the incident, my guess he is on furlough. He is a revolver cop, so he has time on the job, he has two rows of ribbons on his uniform, so he most likely is a working cop and the most impressive thing I found was he played down the incident on the news and shared the credit with the responding officers. Not knowing this cop personally, I would say he did a good job and did the right thing.

I hope somebody in the Department looks into this matter and handles it the right way.

I do have to say to this detective involved, get an automatic handgun! You had six shots in your revolver for 5 guys who had a gun in the car. Doesn't leave much room for error! I thank the Lord that it did work out in your favor!

6/24/2008 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frank Gross has cherries for balls. He is a non confrontational pussie. If any of his direct bosses stopped dead in their tracks his head would go half way up their ass. He has sucked his way through his carrer.

6/24/2008 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is true, I hope the next shit the Commander takes is square!

6/24/2008 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And you wonder why arrests are down and crime is up! Here a clue guys - DONT DO ANYTHING. There are hundreds of cops who work this movie detail and do nothing and guess what? They are called back to work it again. I run a small security company on the side with another investment partner and this cop can work for our company anytime he likes. And if he every makes a good arrest like this while working for us, we will not only throw him a cash bone but thank him.

6/24/2008 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous gross is grossly wrong said...

If this is a true story with no other facts being withheld and this Commander isn't dumped, somebody should do something. If this was a (SOS) cop "SON OF A SUPERVISOR" he would be getting a Lambert Tree or some other high award. J-FED ARE YOU READING THIS OR HEARING THIS? Is this the kind of Command Staff you want working for the Department? Do you think this Commander Gross is a person that is going to promote good work or higher numbers for the department?

I WOULD HOPE SOMEBODY FROM 35th and MICHIGAN at least calls this officer and say, "I AM SORRY FOR THE WAY YOU WERE TREATED!"

I can tell you this, while this asshat is Commander of the unit, I will NEVER put in for the Movie Detail for work. I would hate to see what would happen to you if you were involved in a police shooting or get shot yourself. This unit would probably sue you for the time the movie was shut down while they treated your injuries!

6/24/2008 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say call the movie detail office and leave a comment!

1-312-745-5253

They have overnight voice mail!

Remember be polite and no bad words! No need to get in trouble!

And we all know that the media reads this blog, so the number is available for them to call to asked them about this incident!

6/24/2008 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous exempt myself and ashamed by this said...

Since this is a detective involved, the Chief of Detectives Tom Bryne should confirm this information with the detective involved and then if true, give a certain commander a phone call. If a commander did this to one of my officers I would be all over this guy!

6/24/2008 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess the movie detail unit now has their own command room maned 24 hours a day. What a crock of shit. The sergeant knew. Why didnt he tell the on duty movie detail unit lieutenant or on duty movie unit watch commander. O yea there aint one. Fuck this department.

6/24/2008 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked the Johnny Depp movie after this happened. I talked to the people working on the movie set who were present when this happened. The movie workers I talked to all told the story like it being posted. Sounds like a great job by this cop. But this cop who is involved must have some clout because I was told by the other officers on the set that this cop worked over 18 days on the movie while he was on furlough. Basically lived on the set. God bless him and his fortune!

6/24/2008 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that the director of this movie, Michael Mann, called this officer and thanked him. That was pretty kewl of him to do.

6/24/2008 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If true, what a joke! Copper did a great job, and gets crap for it?!? Channel 7 actually had this story over the weekend, interviewed the copper and everything. For once we looked awesome on the news.

6/24/2008 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous chicagocop20968@yahoo.com said...

I am the detective involved in this incident. I am sad that this information went public and was hoping it would just die quickly.

The incident as reported is correct. I thought nothing of the arrests since I turned it all over to the 12th District responding units. But I did called the movie sgt to inform him what happened immediately after it happened.

I guess since it was a slow news day and this incident happening close to the Depp movie, the media got involved.

It appears that either the case report or arrest report was leaked to the media. I was never given any copies of these reports. I worked till almost 7am that morning and had to be back at 1500hrs that day. So needless to say I slept till it was time to go back to work.

I did some checking on some stuff. It appears that the CLTV ran my name via 411. They ended up with my ex-wife’s phone number, since the phone is still in my name. The female reporter who called my teenage daughter told her that her daddy was a hero and saved Johhny Depp. Needless to say, my daughter knew I have been working the movie and was excited about this bullshit the reporter use to excite my daughter. Not unlike many teenage girls, hearing that her dad had something to do with Johnny Depp, she gave the reporter my cell number. Yes, I reminded my daughter no matter what somebody says on the phone in the future, get their number and her father will call them back.

CLTV news called me as I was waking up to head back to the movie set. CLTV asked me for an interview. I informed CLTV that officers can not give interviews and referred them to the Media Affairs office. A short time later I received a phone call form the Director of News Affairs, I believe it to be Ms. Bonds. She informed me that CLTV wanted a brief interview with me about the good arrest from the previous night. I wasn’t going to say no to the Director of News Affairs. So I agreed to the interview. I immediately called the Movie Detail Unit and informed them of the situation,. As of waking up, I didn’t think anything of the incident. I did what any one of us would of done and was just lucky to be in the right spot at the right time. I could have had gone in with the arrest and reverted to overtime pay which is about 20 dollars more an hour than what I was being paid by the movie detail. But I decided at the time to go back to what I made a commitment to and block traffic for the movie being filmed.

The outcome of the this incident is also being reported correctly. The Movie Detail Unit was upset about the failure of anybody notifying them about the incident. It wasn’t my job to make any notifications and as soon as I was made aware of the news being involved I did give a courtesy call to inform them.

I hate for this to come out and I being used as an example of what is currently happening to this department. I am only responding because I know sometimes on blogs people post some crazy stuff. Since this is now a topic of discussion, I just wanted to post the truth about what happened.

6/24/2008 02:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding:

4 Shot In Drive By Shooting On Southside

Three men and a teenage boy were wounded, one critically, Monday night in a drive-by shooting outside a convenience store on Chicago's South Side.

The shooting took place at about 7:20 p.m. in the 6800 block of South Indiana Avenue in the Park Manor neighborhood. The victims were on the street when four men drove up in a van and one of the occupants opened fire.

Paramedics took three of the victims, ages 17, 25 and 27, to Northwestern Memorial and Stroger Hospitals in Chicago and Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn.

A 31-year-old man was driven to Provident Hospital.

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Thank God nobody made an arrest on this one, the officer(s) may have been fired or suspended. Put the blinders on and do nothing. Lets show these pricks how this city will go up for grabs when no cops are working. This story about this police officer who did the right thing and got his ass handed to him has me so pissed off. Screw writing tickets, anov's or anything the city will get money for. They put these assholes in as commanders who never did a thing on the streets and they turn around and screw every working copper unless your last name is the same as a boss. I am going to the next meeting with J-Fed and I am bringing up what happened to this cop. And I am going to ask J-Fed, what was done to this commander? And if he says nothing, I am going to have the balls to ask him why not?

6/24/2008 02:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know the cop and have to say he maybe is as crazy as they come but he will make you laugh your ass off with his humor. But I never ever saw him say no to anybody who asked for help or would I think twice about having him with me when the shit hits the fan. While driving my squad I once saw him changing a tire on a car for an elderly black lady right off I-57. I asked him, what are you doing? He said, what you would want somebody to do if your mother had a flat tire on a bad night. I looked at him, he was soaked and wet and anything I might of thought of him before that night forever changed.

6/24/2008 02:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there a Movie Detail Award Ribbon? I have to say that I have been a police officer for over 10 years and never saw anybody make an arrest while working that detail. If had been working CHA special employment, he would of made more money and been welcomed back! But then again CHA doesn't feed you great meals and free soda!

6/24/2008 03:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another genuis move to bolster the last remnants of morale. This dic should go to the media and let the public see what we are dealing with,the internal bureacracy is worse than the savages we face daily.

Gross is just another spoiled "Clout Baby' who has had a silver spoon in his mouth since day one and was never the real police.

6/24/2008 03:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It might be time to replenish the emergency provisions and the natural disaster/terorism kits. Start with alot of ammunition and water.

Costco and Sams Club are still rationing customers to one bag of rice or beans.

Bad things are coming people,wakeup!!!

‘‘The food crisis in Milwaukee — and throughout the United States — is worse than many of us have realized,’’ Hines said in a statement. ‘‘We expect long lines for free food in Third World countries; we don’t expect a line of 2,500 people waiting for food vouchers at the Marcia P. Coggs Center.’’

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1020018,food062308.article

6/24/2008 03:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geez,that US Army Delta Force soldier is giving a 4 hr training seminar at 35th/Michigan in the training room.The topic is Small Unit Leadership..Master Sergeant Paul Howe(RET).We ought to hire him.

6/24/2008 03:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sad thing about this incident is that the clown,Gross,thinks he is right.

6/24/2008 03:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wait until the story of the gangster Sgt hits the media,oh boy oh boy...

6/24/2008 03:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If even half of this story is true the jag off exempt should, at the very least, be demoted. Keep doing street stops everyone.

6/24/2008 05:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another Kline pick for exempt

6/24/2008 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous dead dillinger said...

Life imitating art!

In his skewed priorities and lack of common horse sense, "Commander" Gross must be just another worthless, clout-heavy imbecile.

The off-duty detective merits a department commendation. Gross has to be a world-class asshole as a police officer, not to mention a "commander". Where do they get these so-called bosses?

What's this guy's job history as a street cop, if any?

What say you, Gross?

6/24/2008 06:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

True story! This job can kiss my fat ass. No contract, nothing from me.

6/24/2008 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think he got in trouble because he didn't get an event number.

6/24/2008 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone neeeds to let John Kass know about this.

6/24/2008 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then J-Fed with that big fat check he gets, can't figure out why morale is in the toilet!

The Detective should be getting a medal and a Merit Promotion! But, instead he is getting it stuck in his ass by "dumb asshole bosses" who don't know anything about Police work!

I have a great question?

Why isn't the News Media playing this incident up along with the fucking over of the Detective?

You can take your "Movie detail" and stick it up your ass J-Fed and other Exempt bosses!

My answer and attitude towards "you people" is a big FUCK YOU!

6/24/2008 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't the exempt ppo just send out a PAX501 asking(begging) us to be more aggressive?????
This is what you get for it.WTF!!!
AGAIN, WHY BOTHER.....

6/24/2008 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LET IT BURN MO FO'S! I'm not even going to say I can't believe that this actually happened, but now it's the norm. So sad, so sad.

This dic should get a friggin DC or some type of an award because the story was nationwide and positive for the CPD for once. WTF.

DUMP GROSS NOW.

6/24/2008 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Just wait until the story of the gangster Sgt hits the media,oh boy oh boy...

6/24/2008 03:27:00 AM

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read sneed in todays suntimes--tues 6/24

6/24/2008 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gross has to be one of the biggest jagoffs OTJ. He has a clout baby brother OTJ too...

6/24/2008 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Commander Gross for those of you who don't know has been a pencil pushing worm his whole career. Gross got his commander spot by sucking fat phil off on a regular basis. Gross is the guy you want to see about getting the answers to promotional exams. Gross always has a speical invite only study group for exams. I don't think I need to say much more. The Juice is loose!!!!!!!!!

6/24/2008 08:04:00 AM  
Blogger Don said...

My toddler and I thank the police officers I see patrolling my neighborhood everyday. Being a CPS teacher at an inner city school, I know what it's like to never be thanked and treated unfairly. So, the people who live in Westhaven Park around the United Center says, "Thanks"

6/24/2008 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: chicagocop20968@yahoo.com

You made me proud to be a copper again! TX Brother!!

6/24/2008 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gross ruined 020th district while he was 3rd watch putz captain. He is incapable of handling any sort of team. Just another clout baby!
Nice going Frankie!

6/24/2008 08:14:00 AM  
Blogger DJK said...

Shameful. People all over this country are just standing by while bad shit happens to other people....and this might be why. Getting punished for doing good. This guy puts his ass on the line even when he's not on duty and gets punished for a job well done.

Maybe this is why those people stood by while the baby got stomped to death (see my blog) or the guy on the bus was beaten for a phone (see my blog).

People are being beaten into submission by lawsuits and punishments like the guy in this story.

6/24/2008 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous old six shooter said...

Frank Gross...I personally know you. If what is being said about you is true and I will verify it myself, then I will have lost ALL respect for you. At the right time after this plays out, I will tell you to your face how ashamed I am of you and I speak for all the blue shirts in the CPD.

6/24/2008 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous oscar said...

Looks like this jagoff Frank Gross has a lock on this year's Joseph Curtin Award.

Clout killed this job and there ain't gonna be any resurrection.

6/24/2008 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy Simply Solutions For Simple People Batman!!!

Fuck the movie detail. Don't work it.

Fuck the boss commanding it too and anybody who works for him.

He might be the boss. But that's all he will ever be when he retires or gets promoted don't buy a ticket.

Don't go to any of his funerals.

Don't work for him ever. Anybody drops his name their shit.

He is nobody now and forever.

6/24/2008 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous stacy smith said...

A new order came out today!!!!
S.O. 009-69

Female Sergeants are allowed to fuck gangbangers and drives them to shootings as long as they have a great set of tits and at least three baby daddy's (must be the police). The female Sergeants are also required to know their way around a strippers pole. If the female Sergeant meets all these requirements it's OK to piss hot!

6/24/2008 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this Frank Gross any relation to that other PUNK Ed Gross???

6/24/2008 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The movie unit has developed into a little fiefdom of their own. This probably came about because these movie companies change plans at the drop of a hat and they have to fill spots quickly.

I have followed the procedure a number of times and have never been selected. You can see where this much discretion can easily be morphed into arrogance. It sounds like the film unit sergeant dropped the ball on this one, so what do they do? Punish the good guy.

6/24/2008 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Detective should be getting a medal and a Merit Promotion!"

FIRST of all, he SHOULD be placed into the new CLEAR system program (sorry, the new "Administrative Order just came out Friday and I forgot the name and ASO # of this new J-Fed program.)
This new system is used to AWARD as well as place people in the behavioral alert program in the future if they get progressively worse.

SECOND, the media should be told of this IMMEDIATELY. They should be told why our fucking morale is in the shiter because of these incompetent bastards!

6/24/2008 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detective, if you called the sgt. for your detail from your cellphone, the bill will support you.

If you don't get a copy of all your dialed calls, contact the cell company and ask for a print out for that month.

6/24/2008 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another political hack that is useless to street police.

Moral is increasing by leaps and bounds.

6/24/2008 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Jody, FUCK YOU!

6/24/2008 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geez,that US Army Delta Force soldier is giving a 4 hr training seminar at 35th/Michigan in the training room.The topic is Small Unit Leadership..Master Sergeant Paul Howe(RET).We ought to hire him.

6/24/2008 03:09:00 AM

Why at 35th street? Not one of the bosses there will ever use the information for leadership in the field.

It's funny how the people that would use the training rarely get it.

6/24/2008 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great Job by the Det. involved....I've just reached 22 & a day and turn 50 in a few months...because of bosses like gross, guess what I'm doing?

6/24/2008 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

LET IT BURN MO FO'S! I'm not even going to say I can't believe that this actually happened, but now it's the norm. So sad, so sad.

This dic should get a friggin DC or some type of an award because the story was nationwide and positive for the CPD for once. WTF.

DUMP GROSS NOW.

6/24/2008 07:26:00 AM

The least he should get is the Award of Valor, more like the Police Medal. Throw in merit Sgt. in the next class.

6/24/2008 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

020 runs itself. Gross may not be the most competent boss around, but one rarely sees POs on the transfer order bidding out of 020, so to say he "ruined" 020 is misleading. It's one of the few "automated" Districts that are run by outside managers, whether the Cmdrs. there choose to admit it or not. Below is a listing of the "automated" districts:

001
009
012
013
016
018
019
020
021
023

Say what you will, business interests and specific politicians run these districts, and everyone knows it.

6/24/2008 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SWATTY, two rows of ribbons doesn't mean that someone is automatically a 'working cop'... it means that they had some really good sgts... Dont' get me wrong, this cop did a great job, but I don't buy into the "he has 50 ribbons so he must kick butt" mantra. I know fantastic coppers that have little to nothing.

6/24/2008 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gross made detective, along with sidekick Michael Shields, from what was arguably the most corrupt detectives list in the history of the Department. He and his brother manage to both make commander. Amazing. Anyone know if their old 36th Ward patronage connections had anything to do with it?

6/24/2008 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...was pretty kewl of him to do...
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kewl? what are you? ten?

6/24/2008 12:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmmmmmm... makes a great stop and arrest, nobody gets hurt, 5 gang bangers shooting from a car are arrested and the gun with expended shells was recovered and this officer is PUNISHED? This Cmdr Gross should be FIRED! What a pompous asshole!


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there has to be more to this story. I really cant see frank gross just telling him he couldnt do the movie detail. I have always known cmdr gross to be an advocate for hard working officers and is a very friendly person. He has always been a person who has gone to bat for police officers. Im sure the detective did a fantastic job, but There has to be another reason why he is banned from the detail. I dont think any supervisor, let alone gross would pull a move like that.

6/24/2008 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

True story! This job can kiss my fat ass. No contract, nothing from me



sorry... but j fed says you have to get in shape.

6/24/2008 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a Sgt myself who has worked the movie detail, I have worked with this officer. He has always done his job well and unlike a few who are assigned to this detail who use it to rest, this officer was always moving traffic, helping people and I was always happy when he was assigned with me. I knew I had a office I could count on. One of the few cops I know who has over 20 years on who still addresses a sgt by title or sir. A good guy.

6/24/2008 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If everyone who works this movie detail shit did not show up or un-scheduled themselves and let the "bossmen" take care of the problems maybe youse guys would have an impact.

Yes, that is right, a strike!

But if your couple of bucks is worth more to you than "the right thing" well there you are. You will all be under the finger of this Asshole Commander Gross.

I worked parttimers for a better part of 40 years and I have never been afraid to walk away from a shitty (that is right- two ts) situation. Nothing ever paid that much.

6/24/2008 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think Frank Gross is a pompous ass, you should have had some interaction with his brother now retired commander of mass transit Ed Gross. He makes Frank look like John Farrell. Both Gross boys are suck ass merit bosses all the way!

6/24/2008 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cynthia White, Lucio Martinez, Mary Rozell, Janice Robarts-Dillon, Maher, Doty, Crump-Hales and now Gross!

Can't that corrupt asswipe mayor hide the lot of them in underground cubicles at Streets & San? You know he'll still give them the big paychecks.

The job used to be fun. Now every tour is like chemotherapy. I can't quit. Too much time vested.

6/24/2008 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-fed has called Cmdr Gross to his office this morning. Let's see what this meeting is about!

6/24/2008 02:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

chicagocop20968@yahoo.com

Good job. As usual only the "real police" care... Obviously J-Fed and Gross are not one.

6/24/2008 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Southside Supervisor said...

If the Superintendent is serious about improving morale, then he has only one option, REINSTATE THE DETECTIVE AND DEMOTE COMMANDER GROSS!

I've never met Commander Gross but I do know the detective involved. Everything previous posters have said about his work ethic and generosity are true.

During the "all-area" outdoor roll call this last weekend, I heard a district commander and the 1st Deputy (a man I worked for and respect) talking about the CPD getting their swagger back. About how the warm and fuzzy, community relations experiment was a tremendous failure and how we need to be aggressive and gain back the streets.

And now some chickenshit commander punishes an officer for excellent police work.

Put your money where your mouth is Command Staff.

On behalf of all those who take pride in being Chicago Police Officers, I demand this asshole commander be demoted to lieutenant or captain (not sure of his pre-promotion rank.)

Making this prick 390,590,690 or 790 on midnights will send a message to all Chicago Police Officers.

Turn your back on this request and expect more of the same (NOTHING!)

Thank you, I feel much better that I said what needed to be said.

6/24/2008 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
commander Gross was a drinking buddy with former commander michael "Rainbow the Clown" Acosta. enough said!
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There are 2 Gross brothers. The bald one and the one with hair. The one with hair is a good guy (was tact lt. in 014th - same Dist Acosta was Cmdr of).

I think the one with hair already retired though, a few years ago.

I don't think the bald one hung out with Acosta.

6/24/2008 03:43:00 PM  
Anonymous frankie goes to hollywood said...

12:11 PM

Get your tongue out of Gross' colon, suckass.

6/24/2008 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Bright Red 1958 Plymouth Fury said...

Cynthia White, Lucio Martinez, Mary Rozell, Janice Robarts-Dillon, Maher, Doty, Crump-Hales and now Gross!

Don't forget Kolman...

6/24/2008 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question... who was the sgt who dropped the ball?

6/24/2008 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael Mann is going to do a new tv series called "Movie Detail Vice"!

This is going to be a great tv series!

6/24/2008 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As of 1730hrs, Cmdr Gross is on the medical roll, awaiting donor balls replacement surgery.

6/24/2008 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ribbons don't mean anything! There is a Tact guy in 023 who always wears his ribbons while in uniform and is the worst policemen around. Sometimes you get ribbons instead of being indicted.

6/24/2008 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wasent CORNY MORGAN the Great once in charge of the movie detaiol years back

6/24/2008 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gross should make a public apology and be caned at Daley Plaza. Now bring me my ale wench.

6/24/2008 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You all may be missing the big Picture here, no pun intended.

Com. Gross had promised that spot to someone else and was just waiting for someone to make a mistake. Sorry Det. you did not follow the non-existent protocal, You gone...

Now one of his Dollies got your spot Detective.

6/24/2008 07:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Cynthia White, Lucio Martinez, Mary Rozell, Janice Robarts-Dillon, Maher, Doty, Crump-Hales and now Gross!

Can't that corrupt asswipe mayor hide the lot of them in underground cubicles at Streets & San? You know he'll still give them the big paychecks.

The job used to be fun. Now every tour is like chemotherapy. I can't quit. Too much time vested.

6/24/2008 01:35:00 PM

You forgot Mike mealer from 017. Paranoid prick commander. mealer and Robarts in the same district. Amazing.

6/24/2008 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-Fed do the right thing, this is a good Detective from A/2, he works the streets, and has more career arrest than YOU could even think of Mr. J-Fed! Now if this went the other way and someone at that movie detail was shot the city lose future movie details right? Welcome to Chicago "The Murder Capital of the World>"

6/24/2008 07:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Movie detail? It's hard to work up much sympathy for anyone who gets that plumb job. Burke's
go-ers, etc. Not for regular working stiffs. Don't call us, we'll call you.

6/24/2008 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i would of had a hard time putting my shoes back on and give chase in my cruiser. one year w/o a contract! commander Gross... you sir, is another reason this job is starting to BLOW!

6/24/2008 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has any of the higher-ups looked into this??? No wonder morale sucks.

6/24/2008 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's called the chain of command. The det notified his immediate sgt. Why didn't the sgt notify Gross and 1st deputy? Gross is (grossly) over-reating and should be ashamed of lack of common sense. This is why morale is so low. A guy does good and gets punished. Hope the media writes something on this.

6/24/2008 10:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ADD THIS INTO 016 COPS GETTING CHASTIZED FORMALLY ON A SUP. LOG FOR MAKING A HOMICIDE ARREST 3/4 OF A BLOCK OUT OF DISTRICT!!!
What has this Police Dept. come to???
Do police work, get in trouble?
Do nothing, get promoted?
You know what I'm gonna do from now on??

6/24/2008 10:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at Franks real estate dealings. Preying on the elderly. You should be ashamed.

6/24/2008 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Movie detail? It's hard to work up much sympathy for anyone who gets that plumb job. Burke's
go-ers, etc. Not for regular working stiffs. Don't call us, we'll call you.

That's right only clout people work the detail,and that detective working 18 days is unheard of,dont cry for him he's got a big paycheck coming.debra fuller runs the movie detail not gross and she only assigns the detail to clout heavy suckholes!

6/24/2008 10:45:00 PM  
Blogger Cpdcoppurr said...

To The Suck Asses,

Please stop defending Gross..... He knows nothing of loyalty, honor or duty..... Well that isn't totally true, he did have those when his nose was firmly planted up Phat Phil's ass...

I for one know this first hand... Hey Frank, did you think of loyalty, honor and duty when you introduced my boyfriend of ten years to your wife's friend the school teacher at your Christmas Party???? Nope you were just moving him and you up the clout mountain.......

Fuck you Frank, i hope you get slapped down to Capt again and go back to 020 on midnights where you belong.

6/24/2008 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill K. is a stand up guy. I worked with him while I was detailed to the A2 Mission Team in 2000. He and the other detectives on the Mission Team made some quality arrests. I would often see Bill responding to in progress calls in 022 in my neighborhood. It comes as no surprise he would respond to this driveby. He worked with his hero and trap expert JJJOOOOOOHHHHHHHNNNNNN H. on the A2 Mission Team. - Keep up the good work!-Former CPD

6/24/2008 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gross is the guy you want to see about getting the answers to promotional exams. Gross always has a speical invite only study group for exams. I don't think I need to say much more. The Juice is loose!!!!!!!!!

6/24/2008 08:04:00 AM
##############

Again for THOSE tha tare not in the KNOW!!!!

They (the chosen family and select people /non-deservingly promoted) are GIVEN the ANSWERS to STUDY! THAT is HOW they ACE the TESTS!!!!!!!

The rest is what it is!!!

Ernst and Young >>>

MY ASS AND MY BALLS!

Ther is Your SNEEDLING .....Bitch!

6/24/2008 11:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

i would of had a hard time putting my shoes back on and give chase in my cruiser. one year w/o a contract! commander Gross... you sir, is another reason this job is starting to BLOW!

6/24/2008 09:50:00 PM
No cruisers poser

6/24/2008 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

chicagocop20968@yahoo.com

Nice work!!

Can ya put a brother on the paper.......?

All about the Overtime ya know!

6/24/2008 11:36:00 PM  
Anonymous HATER said...

WHY WOULD A DICK WORK SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT?

I DONT GET IT DONT THEY HAVE LIKE SOOOO MAny CASES THAT THEY ARE ALL BACKED UP?

DONT THEY HAVE LIKE UNLIMITED O.T OF THEY CAN CLOSE A CASE?

AM I WRONG!

6/25/2008 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6/24/2008 11:01:00 PM

Wow,you are the hottest retired copper I have ever seen. So,Gross had his Taft Highschool teacher wife steal your boyfriend away?

BTW,
I am available and would love to date a hot fiesty copper like you.

6/25/2008 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am literally shocked that this horrnedous injustice has not been picked up by the media. I am sure the citizens would love this one.

6/25/2008 12:56:00 AM  
Blogger Cpdcoppurr said...

PS................

I would like to thank Detective 20968.......... "The Real Police" are still alive and well in CPD.

Stay safe out there.

6/25/2008 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GROSS IS A MORON FROM 020. HE WAS THE COMMANDER THERE. ALL CLOUT AND NO BALLS!!!

6/25/2008 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that cpdcopurr is a fraud. There is no way anyone as good looking as someone in that picture is would be hired in the CPD. Man she is hot.

6/25/2008 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should make Frank Gross T- Shirts. They could state

Frank Gross...A guy who's wife has bigger balls!

6/25/2008 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...you introduced your wife's teacher friend to my boyfriend of ten years..."

After seeing your picture, how hot must that teacher be?

Besides, why would you want to date a guy who is only ten?

6/25/2008 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if gross clout Ald banks who is being investigated by the FBI wants more attention. Maybe a little looksy into the Gross real estate sheenanigans with the Ald and ALD nephew would intrest the FBI. Im not saying im just saying.

6/25/2008 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-fed has called Cmdr Gross to his office this morning. Let's see what this meeting is about!

I bet he will deny and just pass the blame to the PO doing the scheduling. Its the Daley way!!!

6/25/2008 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck you Frank, i hope you get slapped down to Capt again and go back to 020 on midnights where you belong.

6/24/2008 11:01:00 PM

Don't send him back there, we don't want him.

6/25/2008 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HATER said...
WHY WOULD A DICK WORK SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT?

I DONT GET IT DONT THEY HAVE LIKE SOOOO MAny CASES THAT THEY ARE ALL BACKED UP?

DONT THEY HAVE LIKE UNLIMITED O.T OF THEY CAN CLOSE A CASE?

AM I WRONG!

6/25/2008 12:08:00 AM

Your name says it all.

6/25/2008 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey CPDCOPPURR you must have had that boyfriend of 10 years when you were married. By the way you ain't got enough time on this job to be retired, like you claim on your webpage,so who are you bullshitting.

6/25/2008 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GROSS IS A MORON FROM 020. HE WAS THE COMMANDER THERE. ALL CLOUT AND NO BALLS!!!

6/25/2008 01:56:00 AM

Your up too late and your thinking sideways. Gross was a Capt. in 020 and not the commander. A watch commander and not a very good one. He was shakey and afraid that every little thing would fuck up his rise to the top.

Yes, the det. did a great job and got put in a bad light by the powers that be, because of the lack of notifications and the fact that news affairs contacted him and he knew nothing about it and was expected to answer up.

That's my guess. Still, you don't do something like this and screw somebody and by the way, this is not the first time someone got fucked out of a department award by Gross.

6/25/2008 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old DETECTIVE SAYS: my way of seeing things: the bosses ALWAYS try to fuck-over the troops; IAD will go after the CPD on-duty, "arresting officers" as doing false-report; IAD will go after off-duty detective for not processing his arrestees according to G.O.'s..specifically---off duty arrest situations...notifications..etc..

6/25/2008 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The norwood park circle was terrorized by a pack of IC kids throwing shit at peoples windows, breaking the windows and other criminal damage to property.

Yes, criminal damage. A off duty P.O. has his window broken and sees the offenders and gives chase.
He is able to grab one offender and the police are called.

About 20 houses vandalized and several windows broken out.

The offender grabbed was never charged and was released on the spot.

Reason:
Frank Gross's kid?

And the kick in the face was'nt him not getting locked up for breaking the off duty's window, it was the CR# against him by Gross.

I'm sorry, but this is the kind of person we are dealing with.

If my kid was running around breaking out windows and got caught. He'd be sitting in 016 waiting for me to pick him up, after he was printed and photo'ed.

Then he'd get the shit kicked out of him and that would be the last time he would even think of doing something like that again.

And, yes he was doing the vandalizing too. He was seen going into a firemans shed taking out tiki torches and throwing them through a window.

The fireman declined to comment further.

6/25/2008 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a family member who is an attorney in Chicago and he would like to represent this officer and sue the department for any losses from future work with this movie detail. He believes its a greay case.
---------------------

Please stop with these stupid fucking posts. I've got way too many to read here to be bogged down by your cry baby moronity. Thank you.

6/25/2008 02:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ADD THIS INTO 016 COPS GETTING CHASTIZED FORMALLY ON A SUP. LOG FOR MAKING A HOMICIDE ARREST 3/4 OF A BLOCK OUT OF DISTRICT!!!
What has this Police Dept. come to???
Do police work, get in trouble?
Do nothing, get promoted?
You know what I'm gonna do from now on??

--------------------

What the hell does chastised on a SUP LOG mean?

Sounds like it would hurt though.


Oh my, honey, what a day I had. I was chastised on a SUP LOG ... HAHAHAHAHAHAH

6/25/2008 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHY WOULD A DICK WORK SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT?

I DONT GET IT DONT THEY HAVE LIKE SOOOO MAny CASES THAT THEY ARE ALL BACKED UP?

DONT THEY HAVE LIKE UNLIMITED O.T OF THEY CAN CLOSE A CASE?

AM I WRONG!

----------------

Very wrong. Please ... YOU GO NOW!

6/25/2008 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great Job copper! Keep it up! No matter how anyone one of this asshole merit exempts treat you! We need working cops!

6/25/2008 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just went to the bathroom and took a good Gross. Then flushed him away!

6/25/2008 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't this one of the cops that "found' the Keystone 19 kids. Google his name, it is.

6/25/2008 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cynthia White, Lucio Martinez, Mary Rozell, Janice Robarts-Dillon, Maher, Doty, Crump-Hales and now Gross!

Don't forget Kolman...

6/24/2008 05:13:00 PM

Oh, the list is endless, especially if we started listing the ones that have retired, so I'll restrict my suggestions to active duty goofs, such as clout babies Helm, Skahill, Sodini, Moy-Bartosik, Terence Williams, Roy, Georgas, Ryan, and idiot Judy (not Julie) Martin. What a bunch of jags. Our leaders! We are in
big trouble. Hahahaha!

6/25/2008 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would say this guy got a raw deal. But maybe some good could come from it. It brings to light the problem with the movie details. While you can apply online and it gives the appearance of everyone having a fair shot to work them nothing could be further from the truth. A poster said this particular copper worked 18 days on this movie while on furlough. I know that most of these days are at least 12 hour days and some are considerably longer. Do the math 8 hours at $30 and 4 hours at $45 is a $420 minimum day. This guy got 18 days so he probably made at least $7,560 if not more while on furlough. Good work if you can get it. I know for a fact that the majority of the details are shared amongst a small group of coppers who either work at headquarters or who are in the know with the people who give out the assignments. I know for a fact there was a copper who worked in 022 who worked more than 15 days last summer on the Batman movie while he was on furlough. Why can't the movie details be more legit and maybe even go by seniority? I know there are a lot of house mouses from headquarters who would never see it if it went by seniority. I'm not saying it has to go by seniority but there definitely are a lot more fair and equitable ways to spread the wealth. How about it Commander Gross and the housecats who give out the assignments?

6/25/2008 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger Cpdcoppurr said...

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6/25/2008 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't care if CPDCOPPURR is a fraud. She is waaaaaay too hot for words.

SpankDaddy

6/26/2008 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous 35th Street Eyes & Ears said...

Memo to6/25/2008 05:43:00 PM

The Movie Detail assignments are made by PO Debbie Fuller (sister of ex Chief of Patrol Jim Maurer) and PO Mike (I think that's his first name) Pirelli. Deb's not a bad kid but that other one is as big a suck ass as they come. Watch out for that one.

6/26/2008 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the previous poster the movie details are handled by a few P.O.'s. Fuller and Pirelli are just two of them. There's also a F/1 who works down there and all of the assignments she does are made up almost exclusively of people of color. With things she handles Caucasians pretty much need not apply. They mainly just take care of their little clique that's why 99% of the people that put in for the movie details never get them. A lot of it isn't even posted as openings it's simply done by phone calls. Pirelli's wife Tina works quite a few of these assignments. I thought J-Fed wanted to bring transparency to the department---the movie detail assignments are as transparent as mud.

6/26/2008 11:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cpdcoppurr ain't no fraud, i worked with her in 024 back in 1996. And uh ya cum to Daddy baby.

6/27/2008 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And uh ya cum to Daddy baby.

6/27/2008 08:45:00 AM"


Get in line.

6/27/2008 08:52:00 PM  

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