A Real Number?
Discounting O'Keefe's numbers manipulation, here's something closer to the truth:
- Weis said there were 995 officers at the Taste, about 400 more than last year. But, he also acknowledged a citywide manpower shortage of about 1,400 out of 13,500 officers—a result of attrition, medical leaves and budget limitations.
He talked about creating a medical-integrity unit to verify leave claims are valid—a move promised by his predecessor—but said budget constraints have prevented him from taking that step.
That 1,400 number still doesn't take into account the double counting going on at the District level where people are counted in their Unit of Assignment (UoA) and then counted again in their Unit of Detail (UoD). But we're getting closer to explaining why half the cars on any given midnight are running as 99 units.
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posted by SCC at 1:07 AM
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One of the things that made this job bearable in the past was having a good partner. Now, if I'm lucky, I see my old partner at rollcall and then we each go to our separate ways to work 99.
Some rumblings have it that the mayor may declare the City Service Funds BK. For the first time in a long time its possible that Police and Fire pay checks may start arriving late and even later!!!! Get use to new pay dates in the future..
ATTENTION ALL THAT ARE HOPING FOR THE FIVE DAY WORK WEEK!! Call the union and ask your rep....they ARE NOT pushing for the five day work week...the union told the city that they want the 6 day on 3 day off schedule.they are only asking for the 10 hour day for rapids...just so you know the rapids are barely manned..so if you bid for the 10 hour car like they did when the pilot progrm was up and they cant man it,guess what ...you will resort back to a 6and 3 schedule...once again the FOP is ignoring what the majority of us want...dont think its true...CALL THE UNION AND ASK,,and dont settle for DEMARIA'S bullshit..put it right on him..THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR A 5 DAY WORK WEEK!!!
J-FED is only here for the money. he only wants to make it look good for his Fed buddies and any LEO that may wanna hire his dumb ass later..Remember boys and girls,it is all about appearances,not substance!J-FED is only here for the money!The only difference is J-FED hasnt been caught being corrupt!It is all Smoke&Mirrors!
August 9th, Bud Biliken Crap. If you have to work it, make sure YOU close off every possible access point and run these nomads as far north and south as you can. Make it's horrible for them to get around. Make it just as much an inconvenience for them as it is for you. Every child that is lost, their parent/gaurdian should get locked up for neglect or something. Make this the most miserable place to be this year. Pissers and drinkers, locked up. Weed, locked up. Fail to clear the corners, reckless conduct or mob action. INCONVENIENCE IS THE KEY.
I'll tell you why most of us are "de-policing"
1) A lot of us are practically forced b/c of manpower to regularly work alone. Even the day after one of our own was murdered working 99, almost every single car was 99 on our watch.
(But the city cares about us)
2) Our schedule SUCKS! we have to work six straight days dealing with the biggest scum in the city before our measly 2 days off. How about 4-10hours, 5 on 3 off, etc.. anything. Give us options. Those that want to keep the 6straight 8hours can, but the rest of us normal people want/need a different more accomodating work schedule that doesn't stress us the breaking point by that sixth day. But the city doesn't care about what we want or about boosting our morale.
3) Merit Bosses! There are just so many now that have been made bosses by clout that it's a slap in the face to us. How can they expect us to take orders from someone that was a dog P.O. and dumb as hell, but is related to an alderman, sleeping with this boss, etc.. You can't do that without consequences. Tell me why i should "go get em" for someone like this. Merit promotions are garbage and should be done away with. Straight of the list so it gives the un-clouted, hard working beat cop something to shoot for. At the most 90-10%, not 70-30%. That's 30% of the bosses that are unqualified according the test given that are in charge of our well being daily. Somber thought.
4) NO BODY HAS OUR BACK. Policing is such a split second decision profession that sometimes things might not be so black and white. And even when it is no body backs us up. For instance, the shooting last week of the gangbanger with the record of weapons charges who was running around with a gun and got shot. That's tuff shit. You want to terrorize a neighborhood, thats what you get, shot. But now the city and officers are getting sued by the family. Why? It just burns me up inside. And all the media play clips of the family saying what an innocent person he was. Get the F out of here. But did you hear one peep of our supt telling it like it is, what a piece of shit the guy that got shot was. No, of course not.
5) The media. As in the last example they'll just put anyone on the news and let them babble any lie they want instead of editing the crap and putting out only the truth. They are a huge part of the blame to what has happened to this dept and morale. Every day we get beat up in the media for trying to do the right thing. We are supposed to shoot gangbangers that are running around neighborhoods trying to kill people. That's our job. To keep you safe. But they just don't see that. Maybe once a little more "de-policing" happens and they start shooting some of these media people or their family members, maybe they'll start understanding.
6) Everyone expects us to be perfect 24/7. We aren't. We're human. We go to bars, drink sometimes, and maybe occasionally if provoked far enough by the right assholes, get into fights. The department now is trying to control so much of our lives on AND OFF DUTY that we're starting to feel like hostages. We can't be more that .04 off duty!!?? WTF? This is a job! We work hard enough for 8 hours in areas most wouldn't dream of setting foot, trying to protect people and now we can't even sit in the yard and have some cocktails on our days off. This is just wrong.
7) Residency. Why in this day and age are we restricted by a job as to where we can live. Doesn't it seem like it would be a basic american freedom to be able to live wherever you want? If i want to live in oak brook and commute in here every day, why shouldn't I be able to? The housing prices and taxes are getting too high for us to afford to live in decent neighborhoods.
8) Discipline. You can't hand down a discipline sentencing, have the guy follow it, serve his time, then pull the rug under him after. It just sends a terrible message to us that in the heat of the moment, if mistakes happen, and even after you admit to them, do your punishment, you can still get indicted years down the road federally. No one wants to work under these conditions and its showing. Again we are human and deal with the worst people on earth and sometimes they push you so far that you break and give them a crack. Ok, punish me, but then let me move on from the incident. It was a mistake, lapse of judgement, but through an 8 hour day we are pushed so far... even to the brink of near death, and we still aren't allowed to make some mistakes here and there?
These are some of the major issues that are affecting us and causing the "de-policing" of the CPD. This is a road map of things to address. Start helping us out with this stuff and you'll see a much happier and harder working police force. But until then, we are fed up and done being the city's whipping boy.
The way they mess with the numbers is intentional. They try to make it almost impossible for someone to figure out exactly how many P.O.'s we currently have.
My guess - Under 10,000
Just work a weak in a district and you'll see how many down cars there are, how many 1 man cars are up, and how from the second you get out of roll call till the time you check off you're in a backlog or constantly running from job to job.
That's brilliant....create a "medical integrity unit" which would take more officers off the street to check up on other officers! The abusers will still find a way to abuse and the integrity unit will be about as effective as the gun ban in Chicago!
In the true fashion of the City- O'Keefe has been moved around due to incompetence. Funny how each move has been a promotion/raise.
Guess he isnt bound by a Rule 14 violation since he has good friendships from the hood. Funny how that works
oh my god, quit fucking whining and crying about watches being short. you are a fucking mental midget if you think its ever going to change. "do more with less" has been the credo in private industry for years, if not decades. ill break it down for you morons at scc, accounting wise, the department is modernizing. put down the guns and ammo magazine and get educated. this blog sounds like a broken record, time to employ a few new writers.
The numbers on the I-Clear system are bullshit. Look around. Every district, unit, detective division is short staffed. Cops that are on medical disability are on that system as well as others that will never see another working day on this job. And less not forget on any given day 8-10% are on the medical roll (which includes I.O.D.).
When I came on this job, there was 10-4 cars for every beat, a 10-4 wagon for every sector as well as a few specialty cars such as hospital cars, traffic cars and others.
Today we are lucky to have a wagon up, time after time I have to hear a sgt tell a beat car to run to the station to get a wagon for emergencies or numerous arrest situations.
The whole system is screwed up. No cars available even during non-peak hours and the few cars we have tied up on bullshit non-police related calls but CAPS situations.
Listen to Zones 6.7.8.or 9. You hear a call such as, Man with a gun call with 30 mins on it. And the dispatcher saying, this caller has called 4 or 5 times, like the caller is wrong for begging for the police.
WE ARE SCREWED.
And the solution? Call J-Fed for questions while nothing gets done.
If they were serious about crime reduction, they would hire 2,000 more cops. Actually have more than enough. When cops are over burden with so many bullshit calls, they PRODUCE revenue. Parking, movers, ANOVS and while issuing these violations, you find wanted people, criminals, offenders about to or who have just committed a crime. But the Mayor rather blow millions on all kinds of kick back projects and schemes.
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The real number of police officers is like the voter's list. Even the dead are counted and they even vote.
Chicago must be the ghost capital of the world. More dead people get paychecks, vote and sign petitions than anywhere else in the world.
The only place a ghost hasn't shown up in Chicago (yet) is as the person shot by the police.
Holy Beaner Batman!!!
If you knew Ted like I know Ted the answer to why Da Mayor picked this guy to help run the CPD is completely obvious. Distortion and manipulation is on a rampage in the Bureau of Administration. Can't wait to see, hear, and try to believe this guy at this Fall's budget hearings in city council chambers. Better bring your gas masks and a lie detector box.
There could still be 20.000 cops and you little babies would still be crying. Nothing has changed in 40 years other than video, the media and hiring. Time has destroyed the mentality of the working police. The dogs have always survived because they don't care and have quietly disappeared into their misery.
If you can, forget about the 'blue flu'. Leave the the department and don't put yourself through an increased decade or two of the disappointment.
First post and just a thought. SCC may provide a good service.
Stay safe and re-read above.
Now there's a plan if ever I've heard one. Let's start another unit. What, a new Commander, a few Lts., several Sgts., and thirty or forty P.O.'s. Yep, that's the answer, pull more police officers from the street to do the job that I.A.D. is supposed to do. J-Fed must have another Fed in mind for the job, or maybe this is the spot Ike C. wants for his brother.
Typical city and Police Dept. bullshit.
Hire more police officers, let them do their jobs.
It's not that difficult.
Without this blog, they'd be doing nothing different.
Nothing.
Keep up the great work.
Integrity unit please stop the bullshit! How about starting at the mayors office, the 50 sheep our command structure would be a start! We are way short 1,400 admitting maybe more like 3-4 Thousand! We have junk cars,radios that die out, clout bosses, no contract,pension not being paid into while daley's criminalinc. keeps getting stronger! WTF! We are done working, call in the army get some apache attck helicopeters and blast the shit out of the punks that would make them notice!
1,400 is alot of coppers. I look at it this way. The dept adds 1,400 to the ranks and thats 500 more dics (100 to each area) and 900 to the dists (36 to each dist). That would help quite a bit.
I know some dists don't need that many extra guys while other dists could easily use 50 or more to their rolls. The dept needs to get with the times and hire 2,000 more officers. Doing that along with trimming the fat (Caps, personel, HQ, and cutting the dept down to 3 bureaus (patrol, administrative, an investigative) would really make a difference).
DE-Police THIS beotch.
is there anything in our contract that prohibits po's from working 99on the 1st and 3rd- I was told there use to be.
SCC~
How about a thread to see who the readers think should be the Deputy Superintendent of Patrol? It's obvious that Aunt Bea is the wrong pick. So, who IS qualified for this position?
I recommend ADS Bobby Lopez. He worked on tact teams as both a PO and a Sgt., and has a reputation as being a fair boss with a level head. Many will remember him from his Academy days as a sergeant where he was universally respected by recruits and veteran police officers alike.
Appointing someone with these qualities would be a step in the right direction for raising morale. Lopez is a guy many officers would respect and support.
What do you think?
does this mean Okeefes rule 15 violation is going to cost him his job. Of course not you have to be a liar to be an exempt on the clout Cpd.
I'm retired but maybe officers from each of the 25 districts can look at the numbers detailed out and give us a count. When I was in the duece we had as many as 75 PO's detailed out. Many were transferred in only on paper and detailed out.
We are getting to the Mayor. Dont let up. NO NUMBERS! Just answer your calls and give Police service as asked/assigned.
I hope you pop a vein Richie.
Chasen, "He gone" Well Skull you need to get rid of some more dead wood in the D unit. May I suggest Eddie welch the turd. This idiot has led A/2 to the lowest clearance rate in the city. Eddie has more Det's working days assigned to desk then can be explained has his own admin. sgt where is that spot on the A&A's oh that sgt is assigned to SVU with a sat/sun day off group. What about the Agg Batt team (phone call team)I guess if your mommy mage merit Lt the same time you make merit det. you should go right to the Agg Batt team. A/2 was never a good place to work but under eddie welch the turd it is a shithole and an emmbaressment to the police dept.
99 UNITS ON 1ST. AND 3RD WATCH.CAN AN OFFICER SUE THE CITY FOR PUTTING HIM/HER IN AN UNSAFE ENVIROMENT IF HE/SHE GETS HURT?
CAN WE SUE THE fop FOR NOT HAVING THE BALLS TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESNT HAPPEN TO US?AFTER ALL ISNT THAT WHAT WE PAY DUES FOR?....JUST WONDERING.
Sure Ritchie has no money because he is giving it all away to Walsh construction as well as the 25 million dollar face lift for
da fountain.
To 7/17/2008 09:13:00 AM,
Thats just lil eddie's friends and family plan.
Straight of the list so it gives the un-clouted, hard working beat cop something to shoot for.
Son I can tell you that will not work. During my years I have seen many Juiced up come from the list at the top yet they were given the answer. That needs to be address.All we have to do is look at two Lts brother and sister who received the same score on Lts exam Along with being in the same Lts class. You think those two received the answers????? 85% of outside units and plain cloths along with inside people move right along. Sad part is there are one of many. The average blue shirt has about a 30% chance. So don't knock the guy who has been in Patrol for 27 years, Officer Francis was the real police.
Save MONEY Chicago! Cancel Bud Biliken!
"oh my god, quit fucking whining and crying about watches being short. you are a fucking mental midget if you think its ever going to change. "do more with less" has been the credo in private industry for years, if not decades. ill break it down for you morons at scc, accounting wise, the department is modernizing. put down the guns and ammo magazine and get educated. this blog sounds like a broken record, time to employ a few new writers.
7/17/2008 02:46:00 AM"
Oh my God, keep poking the tiger, you dumb, hack motherfucker.
The tiger is already wide awake and you're too fucking dumb to figure out that if it doesn't go back to sleep, it's going to chew you up and shit you out.
On second thought, KEEP POKING THE TIGER.
7/17/2008 02:07:00 AM
I disagree with you...
If I have to work the Obama Biliken, I am going to make it work for me, I am not going to do any kind of work whatsoever. They can run the streets rapid, drink, smoke, lose their baby's mama's kids, etc. etc.
I will kick back, bring an extra battery for my phone, maybe even get a small screen dvd that will fit into my pocket and watch FRIDAY. Wait, I can just be intertained their right?
I am not locking up anyone, I am not going to get sued! 6 more years and 20 bye, bye...
"There could still be 20.000 cops and you little babies would still be crying. Nothing has changed in 40 years other than video, the media and hiring. Time has destroyed the mentality of the working police. The dogs have always survived because they don't care and have quietly disappeared into their misery.
If you can, forget about the 'blue flu'. Leave the the department and don't put yourself through an increased decade or two of the disappointment.
First post and just a thought. SCC may provide a good service.
Stay safe and re-read above.
7/17/2008 04:23:00 AM"
I did.
Thanks for continuing to pour salt on the wound.
7/17/2008 02:26:00 AM
De-Policing...
Amen brother, you said a mouth full!
That's brilliant....create a "medical integrity unit" which would take more officers off the street to check up on other officers! The abusers will still find a way to abuse and the integrity unit will be about as effective as the gun ban in Chicago!
Along with the fact they'll pick and choose who they fuck with.I told our Lt once I was not going to do An Illegal stunt for him. after that happened I got some virus was home sick for two days and during that time he sent a Sgt out to my house 4 times a day for two days I called FOP they said to bad so sad. Nothing they could do about it. GET READY
On WBBM'S website a story about the city council meeting that included this paragraph.
"But Weis says hiring new officers, including an additional 100 put in the budget last year has been slowed by Mayor Daley's budget office. Weis says hiring will pick up in the latter part of the year."
Interesting to note that Weis can not hire even only 100 Officers without the budget office directing him.
Appointing someone with these qualities would be a step in the right direction for raising morale. Lopez is a guy many officers would respect and support.
What do you think?
oh you mean Bobby "I went from Sgt to ADS in 2 years" Lopez? I thought we were trying to get rid of clout bitches? Or are you going to try and tell me he made his miraculous jump all on his own merit??? PLease! And LAPA had nothing to do with his rising star? COme on, he may be a nice guy, but give me a break... talk about the epitome of heavy clout asshats
To the 9:07 a.m. post:
You hit the nail right on the head.
The real problem is there aren't enough bodies actually working in the districts. I know my district has between 50 - 60 P.O.'s detailed out yet they show as manpower in our district. WTF? One particular officer has been detailed out of our district for 16- 17 years! Nothing like an entire career being detailed out of a district to a cush spot.
When they want to analyze the numbers they need to discount the detailed out people when figuring out what manpower each district really has. Or for a more novel approach just eliminate most of these detailed out spots. Send them back where they came from and you'd be surprised at the influx of manpower in each district.
The powers that be don't give a shit how overburdened the lowly beat cop is. They simply don't care because it doesn't directly affect them.....or wait a minute I think it is starting to affect them. Keep it up. Hopefully someday the truth will be told.
it's time to give Mr.Weis a goodbye party.
the union told the city that they want the 6 day on 3 day off schedule.they are only asking for the 10 hour day for rapids
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TRU is getting the 10 hour day, like the old housing schedule. Don't believe me? Look at the letter of agreement between the FOP and City. I think you can see it on the FOP's website.
Anonymous said...
That's brilliant....create a "medical integrity unit" which would take more officers off the street to check up on other officers! The abusers will still find a way to abuse and the integrity unit will be about as effective as the gun ban in Chicago!
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You should be all for a medical integrity unit.
Thanks the the hundreds of dog-asses that abuse it daily, we are all but guaranteed to lose it within the very near future.
The vast majority of police departments have switched to giving you one sick day a month. Thats twelve a year.
God forbid you break a leg, get cancer, etc. I hope you didn't like keeping your house!
I guarantee if you very publicly fire a few of these PO's the message will be heard loud and clear and the medical abuse will stop.
Now it's our turn to question the big Head Supt,about the real problems the affect us all.
will he face us?
I don't think so.
keep up the good work troops.
completely off topic but anyone know lt. schweigger (spelling)??) from 004... hes visiting us in 006 a few times a week and yelled at two third watch guys for locking up a guy who put his hands on them AND spit on them.... then gave a CR to one of them for not taking someone elses prisoner to the bathroom???? WTF!!!!???????????? what a jag bag.... JAG BAG I SAY!!!
May I suggest Eddie welch the turd. This idiot has led A/2 to the lowest clearance rate in the city. Eddie has more Det's working days assigned to desk then can be explained has his own admin. sgt where is that spot on the A&A's oh that sgt is assigned to SVU with a sat/sun day off group. What about the Agg Batt team (phone call team)I guess if your mommy mage merit Lt the same time you make merit det. you should go right to the Agg Batt team. A/2 was never a good place to work but under eddie welch the turd it is a shithole and an emmbaressment to the police dept.
Whoever was the author of the above
was really being nice, because he/she left off a couple of lt.'s and several sgt.'s.
Off topic but speaking of Walsh..I was at Ohare the other day and the whole outside contruction was declared unsound and unsafe and needed to be "held" by cables! Check it out next time WHat a Joke!
No wonder we have no money to hire more police the city is paying Walsh twice for faulty work!
couldnt have said it better myself! This should be our battle cry! read on nicely said
KEEP THE BOOT TO THE PROVERBIAL NECK MEN AND WOMEN!!! IT IS WORKING! CONGRATS ON A JOB (to this point) WELL DONE!!! BUT WE ARE FAR FAR FROM FINISHED!!
KEEP UP THE LACK OF VISIBILITY! KEEP UP THE DOING AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE! CONTINUE TO BALK AT THE "WE WILL LAUNCH YOU" THREATS LEVIED BY SCRAMBLING IN THEIR BOOT TACT LTS AND SGTS!
DISPERSALS WILL ONLY GET YOU SUED DOWN THE ROAD! DO NOT DO THEM!!! DO NOT VIOLATE CIVIL RIGHTS! GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT! OBEDIENT POLICE!!!
DID YOU KNOW THAT GOING INTO PANTS POCKETS DURING A STREET STOP IS A VIOLATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS NOT COVERED UNDER TERRY UNLESS YOU FIND SOMETHING... (and you better find something for the hidden cameras sake...)
DID YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SAY "COME HERE" THEY CAN, YES THEY CAN SAY "NO" AND KEEP WALKING AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO!?
WHY RISK IT? WHY RISK YOUR HOME, YOUR CAR, YOUR LIVELIHOOD??? COLLECT YOUR PAY CHECKS AND LIVE WELL!! THATS WHAT THE OTHER SIDE IS DOING!! (delete the word "pay" rom paychecks however, and add "government")
OUR VOICES ARE BEING HEARD THE NUMBERS DO NOT AND WILL NOT LIE!!! UNTIL WE GET WHAT WE DESERVE... UNTIL WE GET WHAT THOSE WHO HAVE PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE WOULD ADVOCATE FOR DO NOT BUDGE!!!
KEEP IT UP!!! NO CONTACT NO COMPLAINT!!!!
7/16/2008 04:22:00 PM
Olympic Committee take note. This is one fucked up city. Give the games to Rio or whoever. Not this hell hole. Chicago would be an international embarrassment to you. Don't buy into that scenic video you've been shown. This city is a rat's nest full of thugs, punks and dirty politicans(Daley is the worst). Police Dept. headed by clueless suckass "bosses" most of whom never were the police.Most of the morons can stick that gold star up their ass-I"m not fucking impressed and IOC neither should you be.
Time for Jody to admit he goofed by giving Kapt. Kolman's sweet ass the boot. Bring her back from self-imposed medical leave exile/abuse and anoint her Deputy Superintendent of Patrol. We need her inspired, self-serving leadership now more than evah!
oh my god, quit fucking whining and crying about watches being short. you are a fucking mental midget if you think its ever going to change. "do more with less" has been the credo in private industry for years, if not decades. ill break it down for you morons at scc, accounting wise, the department is modernizing. put down the guns and ammo magazine and get educated. this blog sounds like a broken record, time to employ a few new writers.
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So what does "modernizing" have to do with manpower? "Do more with less"? That may work well in private industry where the only thing that is at stake is the bottom line but not for Law Enforcement. You try and do more with less and people will get hurt, if not killed.
I would like to know what you do for a living because you certainly cannot be a police officer with an attitude like that. Ike, is that you?
Fail to clear the corners, reckless conduct or mob action. INCONVENIENCE IS THE KEY.
hey 4 year wonder ready to kiss some tac guys ass. YOUR peace & MY peace can't be breached. just go there and talk on your cell phone or sit in the ac new tac car you got. i know this is VERy exciting for you but chill out and let mother nature take care of itself. and most importantly go home to your family safe. don't put you ass on the line and sign a complaint for R/C or D/C.
Hey Chasen has made more merit appointees then Area Three can handle...L'Chaim
Dear Bob Lopez,
I am only writing this comment becasue I know Jody Weis reads this Blog and I don't want him to be fooled by your self promotion and backstabbing. This is at least the 3rd time I've observed you try to promote yourself on this Blog. Please stop!!!! You were promoted to ADS to get you out of the 013. Cline only dumped two commanders and he had to get you out of 013. Under Terry Hillard you would have been demoted back to Lieutenant. Stop picking on Bea because the sharks are circling and you can smell blood in the water. You were a shitty commander and after seeing some of your decisions as ADS...........well I'll leave that to other people that deal with you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ATTENTION ALL THAT ARE HOPING FOR THE FIVE DAY WORK WEEK!! Call the union and ask your rep....they ARE NOT pushing for the five day work week...the union told the city that they want the 6 day on 3 day off schedule.they are only asking for the 10 hour day for rapids...just so you know the rapids are barely manned..so if you bid for the 10 hour car like they did when the pilot progrm was up and they cant man it,guess what ...you will resort back to a 6and 3 schedule...once again the FOP is ignoring what the majority of us want...dont think its true...CALL THE UNION AND ASK,,and dont settle for DEMARIA'S bullshit..put it right on him..THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR A 5 DAY WORK WEEK!!!
no kidding brainiac. go to the fop website and look at the contract requests. its been posted for months now. our fop doesnt want a 5 day work week. they want 6 and 3
I'm not complaining I work 019 Tactical and I always get my time due approved. Even if we only have 1 car left. Our sgt. will approve overtime. No questions asked. Plus I do not even have a lot of time on the books.
What other organization in the world is so consistently unsure how many people work for it?
About 1400 short of 13000. About more? About less?
The guy has been superintendent for six months and still doesn't know how many people work here.
What ever happened to that SkyWay Money? It was 1.8 Billion Dollars, Right?
J-FED is only here for the money. he only wants to make it look good for his Fed buddies and any LEO that may wanna hire his dumb ass later..Remember boys and girls,it is all about appearances,not substance!J-FED is only here for the money!The only difference is J-FED hasnt been caught being corrupt!It is all Smoke&Mirrors!
7/17/2008 02:01:00 AM
Jfed is using the 'layering effect' putting as many exempts between him and the department operations, so when anyone accuses him of any direct responsibility, he can honestly point at any one of his chosen exempts to be culpable, therefore, expendable. Good cop/bad cop...butthead burst is the bad cop, everything disciplinary goes through him first, so Jfed can look any blue shirt in the eye stating innocence & state "I'll take a look into that"
ot: scc blog made the tribune editoral page, but note no mention of CONTRACT or the SHITTY PROPOSALS FROM THE CITY.
using all the media hype and momentum that CPD is gaining right now would be the perfect time to make demands...CPD UNIONS, are you out there, do you hear us, do you feel our pain?
also, maybe Jfed can deputize all 50 alderman to join CPD on the streets with all the extra state troopers & national guard (without ammo of course) to take back the streets that they represent.
Weis said there were 995 officers at the Taste, about 400 more than last year.
Is that all together for the entire week of the Taste ??
These are some of the major issues that are affecting us and causing the "de-policing" of the CPD. This is a road map of things to address. Start helping us out with this stuff and you'll see a much happier and harder working police force. But until then, we are fed up and done being the city's whipping boy.
7/17/2008 02:26:00 AM
Well said. Only thing you forgot was TERRIBLE contract offer.
oh my god, quit fucking whining and crying about watches being short. you are a fucking mental midget if you think its ever going to change. "do more with less" has been the credo in private industry for years, if not decades. ill break it down for you morons at scc, accounting wise, the department is modernizing. put down the guns and ammo magazine and get educated. this blog sounds like a broken record, time to employ a few new writers.
7/17/2008 02:46:00 AM
OK Boss
Anonymous said...
Sure Ritchie has no money because he is giving it all away to Walsh construction as well as the 25 million dollar face lift for
da fountain.
7/17/2008 09:14:00 AM
If you drive around Chicagoland you will see them EVERYWHERE. O'Hare, downtown, 88 west towards Naperville, 294 they are even on the I-65 project in IN. They must now how to bid.
speaking of deployment, member we got all them peeps back from TR Useless and had stacked sheets. whered they all go? were back to no manpower again.
I heard Jody Weis on the news and could tell he was never the police and knew very little about it. I have been retired a long time but it brought back memories when a new boss would say to us "If your right I'll back you 100%". Hell if your right you don't need to be backed 100%. You knew your boss would not back you if he said that. It's when you make a mistake is when you need to be backed up. I think Jody should stay away from the camera for a while. Maybe go out on the street and learn how to be the police before he says another word. I cannot not believe what happened to the CPD. Just stay safe, and TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER, It's all you have.
oh my god, quit fucking whining and crying about watches being short. you are a fucking mental midget if you think its ever going to change. "do more with less" has been the credo in private industry for years, if not decades. ill break it down for you morons at scc, accounting wise, the department is modernizing. put down the guns and ammo magazine and get educated. this blog sounds like a broken record, time to employ a few new writers.
7/17/2008 02:46:00 AM
Hey ASSHOLE,when was the last time someone working in the "private sector" had to respond to a gang fight with shots fired and a person shot call?? Probably about the same number of times you've had to respond to one of these from your do nothing corner office jagoff. Oh and the answer to that question is ZERO times!! So my dickless friend, why don't you go out and ACTUALLY WORK the street in a real district where there is a concern like this, then you can comment. Oh and stupid ass, some bullshit 35th st. Operation Closed Market or whatever they want to call it is NOT working the street. In closing, please go swallow your pistol now you anal dwelling butt monkey.
Anonymous said...
August 9th, Bud Biliken Crap. If you have to work it, make sure YOU close off every possible access point and run these nomads as far north and south as you can. Make it's horrible for them to get around. Make it just as much an inconvenience for them as it is for you. Every child that is lost, their parent/gaurdian should get locked up for neglect or something. Make this the most miserable place to be this year. Pissers and drinkers, locked up. Weed, locked up. Fail to clear the corners, reckless conduct or mob action. INCONVENIENCE IS THE KEY.
7/17/2008 02:07:00 AM
Which boss put this on the blog? Nice try!
Anonymous said...
is there anything in our contract that prohibits po's from working 99on the 1st and 3rd- I was told there use to be.
7/17/2008 08:28:00 AM
NO SIR!!! Your FOP gave that clause away MANY years ago, once again it shows how they don't give a shit about us........Oh and BTW, regular car was downed last night and went to Area 3 for a pool car, guess what? There are NO POOL CARS AVAILABLE!!!
995? Where the fuck did the ass clowns get that number? accounting department. Why does management continue to insult the police officers who work by coming up with these jacked up numbers? Why? Does anyone at HQ with a brain read this blog and understand what is happening here? YOUR LOSING the city!!! The fucking place is burning and J-Fraud is playing with a fiddle while running on the tread mill sipping his soy latte and eating his whole grain bar.
WAKE THE FUCK UP........
Make this the most miserable place to be this year. Pissers and drinkers, locked up. Weed, locked up. Fail to clear the corners, reckless conduct or mob action. INCONVENIENCE IS THE KEY.
7/17/2008 02:07:00 AM
Yah right dude, go back to your hack job downtown of pulling out your hair trying to come up with more stupid ways to con the more gullible officers to produce bullshit numbers for your short time boss.
You're out on your ass the minute your boss gets the hook pal, face it, and get a real job.
The #3 comment from 7/17/08 0226 was a good and fair comment. Some of these bosses are so full of themselves. Example: Capt Glombicki, 2nd W in 004. The BIGGEST dog ever and stands there telling the troops "go get em". The only thing he did on this job was drink and sell his gold jewelry. 2W morale in 004 is the worse I've ever seen. I know every district has a boss like this and we all have to take it. Thats why things are so f'ed up. Lucky Glombicki who rose from a patrolman (32 years) to Capt in 7 years.
The way they mess with the numbers is intentional. They try to make it almost impossible for someone to figure out exactly how many P.O.'s we currently have.
My guess - Under 10,000
Just work a weak in a district and you'll see how many down cars there are, how many 1 man cars are up, and how from the second you get out of roll call till the time you check off you're in a backlog or constantly running from job to job.
7/17/2008 02:30:00 AM
I've said this before, but for the sake of others I'll repeat how it's done and you can come up with your own lists and start checking off who's really working and who's not:
This requires simple knowledge of Crystal Reports, so find someone who has some knowledge.
A simple report can be made showing those who the CITY are trying to tell you comprise who their 13,500 are.
Bring in all necessary data to report on each officer, ensure that you are only pulling ACTIVE officers and also ensure that you are only pulling "P" personnel, which is obviously SWORN POLICE personnel.
What you will find is that they have created the appearance of very close to 13,500 names being returned as ACTIVE POLICE officers, which should be the number of sworn personnel, PO to EXEMPT, actively employed with the City as POLICE.
I suggest simply that someone from each unit pull all the above officers assigned OR detailed TO their respective unit and start reading off the names and checking with your watches to see if there are people included in the personnel tables as ACTIVE POLICE who in fact are not, such as retired, passed away, etc.
This would be necessary for each UNIT to do, or it can be done for ALL units, grouped by the unit number.
Either way, downtown knows that these tables show about 13,500 at any given time and this has been deliberately made so to prevent the casual report writer from discovering the accurate numbers. They rely on the fact that no one person can verify who's really working in all the units.
You CAN however, verify who's working in your own and send the ghost names in to SCC and let them keep track until the majority of units are tabulated.
2 years ago, those same tables showed just under 10,000. Today they show ~13,500 without any NEW hires or increases in hiring, and includes losses taken by attrition. There's NO WAY the current number of active PO's could POSSIBLY be greater today than it was 2 years ago by 3,500 MORE officers.
Anonymous said...
SCC~
How about a thread to see who the readers think should be the Deputy Superintendent of Patrol? It's obvious that Aunt Bea is the wrong pick. So, who IS qualified for this position?
I recommend ADS Bobby Lopez. He worked on tact teams as both a PO and a Sgt., and has a reputation as being a fair boss with a level head. Many will remember him from his Academy days as a sergeant where he was universally respected by recruits and veteran police officers alike.
Appointing someone with these qualities would be a step in the right direction for raising morale. Lopez is a guy many officers would respect and support.
What do you think?
7/17/2008 08:30:00 AM
HE IS NOT FAIR WITH ALL PEOPLE, ONLY WITH ONE SKIN COLOR!
Our boss told at roll call the other day:
13,322 total sworn
Only 9,161 Patrol Officers (job title code 9161 by the way).
Figure close to 2,000 admin spots and you've got barely 7,000 in the districts which means an average of 280 per district. This actually souns like a legit breakdown.
Now do 2/7ths regular day off, 7% on furlough, 3% medical, IOD or CU and you see why everyone's working 99.
"I guarantee if you very publicly fire a few of these PO's the message will be heard loud and clear and the medical abuse will stop.
7/17/2008 11:15:00 AM"
And what is backing up your 'guarantee'?
"speaking of deployment, member we got all them peeps back from TR Useless and had stacked sheets. whered they all go? were back to no manpower again.
7/17/2008 03:08:00 PM"
Exactly. Look @ the transfer order they just sent 25 People to Narcotics today. No knock to some of the folks on the list, but c'mon? More smoke & mirrors, business as usual nonsense....
hey 4 year wonder ready to kiss some tac guys ass. YOUR peace & MY peace can't be breached. just go there and talk on your cell phone...
Now thats FUNNY and great advise. But seriously take the advise four year wonder!!!
To 2:26am - excellent post, wish everyone in the city could see it and understand it, but then most of the sheep& criminals(that means politicians too) wouldn't get it or it wouldn't support their agenda.
Regarding numbers, it's disgusting and dangerous to you officers and we citizens that you don't have at least 13500 and that scumbags are hiding it. They should be fired for mismanagement and sued for endangering us all. I'm just an ignorant citizen but it seems to me that there should be many more police than currently budgeted for - maybe 16500 since population of criminals seems to have grown, while good citizens who work are leaving because of corrupt policies and civility disintegrating. Less police is the wrong way to trim the budget. The criminals running this city are wasting all the tax money.
The city is turning into a zoo and needs more zookeepers. Protection and incentives are necessary to convince anyone to take on this difficult and dangerous career.
You/we don't need State police or National Guard. We need an appropriate number of real Chicago Police Officers who are allowed to do their jobs and be protected from bogus claims and lawsuits from criminals. It's ridiculous to think
outside agencies could understand our streets better than you. The emperor isn't wearing any clothes, but Daley insists it's Armani!!!
I hope the politicians responsible for keeping the police understaffed and the judges and lawyers who perpetuate this mess, will burn in hell with the blood of any innocents lost through this on their hands. They should look in the mirror and understand their responsibility in the murder of Officer Francis (God rest his soul). They should be ashamed.
I'm so happy this blog exists so we are allowed a clear view through the corruption, since media, govt.& bosses only care about money and power. They are not doing their jobs and don't care about a safe future for our children.
You are human beings who face danger for us and deserve a good quality of life, respect and all of the rights that the ACLU fights for, for terrorists, illegals and gangbangers.
Thank you, each and every one of you, who keep us safe. I fully support your slowdown, it's the only way, so far, to try to save the real police so you may protect us in the future.
Thank You and God Bless and Protect you all.
- just a working mother
ps. I threw up a little in my mouth when Jody Smiley Pants said we need
tougher gun laws. We citizens need our constitutionally protected arms against criminals. Hopefully he meant that gang bangers caught with illegal guns will really have to go to jail for a good long while (working on a chain gang, so they don't want to go back), and we citizens are allowed to have legal guns for a change.
Would anyone trust a catholic priest? How about a former catholic priest? So is it a surprise that Ted O'Keefe is a former catholic priest? I have a picture somewhere of him back in his holy days, gotta find it, it's worth a chuckle.
under 9k.
completely off topic but anyone know lt. schweigger (spelling)??) from 004... hes visiting us in 006 a few times a week and yelled at two third watch guys for locking up a guy who put his hands on them AND spit on them.... then gave a CR to one of them for not taking someone elses prisoner to the bathroom???? WTF!!!!???????????? what a jag bag.... JAG BAG I SAY!!!
7/17/2008 11:30:00 AM
i'm suprised he did that... spineless but harmless must of grown a set after getting dumped from 701
Mr. Crystal Reports:
Doing a unit-by-unit count will not get you an accurate count of all sworn PO's.
Unless you filter or you will get the number assigned to one unit PLUS the number detailed to another unit. They will be double counted.
Most districts have about an average of 300 assigned to them. But they also have about 20% detailed out. This is where the manpower for SOS and TRU come from.
Just use the Data Warehouse for code 9161. List by seniority. Probably get the straighted number
Also allows specialized unit to pop up easily as they do not need budget approval. The manpower is paid by the unit of assignment
Steve Schweiger is just very upset that he got dumped from Mass Transit to 004. Be careful around him. He is the worst kind of boss. He knows nothing and will not accept any advice from anyone who knows anything.
What bugs me is how many inside people have zero time on the job. Take a look at unit 111 and other top brass headquarters units. Rows and rows of police officers with
3, 4, 7 years on.
It's sickening. Why doesn't jw start cleaning house and putting the healthy young ones back on the fighting streets?
Give those assignments to the offiers who put in their time, and are getting older, burnt out, broken up, and just plain tired from rotating shifts and working the street for 20 - 25 years.
They still have a brain, and they can answer a phone and take a message.
Attn. Fellow Police Officers!
Da Mayor got on TV and said that Police Officers are reluctant to do policework out of fear of "beefs". It is all the media's fault for playing the Abatte video over and over.
Fuck him and his corrupt administration. He's in trouble, this city is up for grabs and nobody gives a fuck. He's gonna lose the Olympics and he is trying to guilt the police into "serving and protecting".
Answer your calls, do your job, BE CAREFUL and most of all get home every night. Retire with your health and sanity!
P.O. Francis - 019 - RIP
completely off topic but anyone know lt. schweigger (spelling)??) from 004... hes visiting us in 006 a few times a week and yelled at two third watch guys for locking up a guy who put his hands on them AND spit on them.... then gave a CR to one of them for not taking someone elses prisoner to the bathroom???? WTF!!!!???????????? what a jag bag.... JAG BAG I SAY!!!
He used to be in 006 before you young pups came in. Don't worry he is harmless he is a mags wannabe. Little secret for you young pups don't lock anyone up while he is the visiting lt. Simple enough can you follow that. But again you want to save the 6th district. Just to give you a clue that whole district was once populated by hard working people. THe fight is lost. Let the animals have it. Next time you see lt scwheiger tell him nice pants. He always wears those none approved cargo pants that almost look purple and faded.
"He used to be in 006 before you young pups came in. Don't worry he is harmless he is a mags wannabe. Little secret for you young pups don't lock anyone up while he is the visiting lt. Simple enough can you follow that. But again you want to save the 6th district. Just to give you a clue that whole district was once populated by hard working people. THe fight is lost. Let the animals have it. Next time you see lt scwheiger tell him nice pants. He always wears those none approved cargo pants that almost look purple and faded.
7/18/2008 01:09:00 AM"
I guess I'm just an old softy; take heed to all of the above EXCEPT for "Next time you see lt scwheiger tell him nice pants.".
Captains and Lieutenants are get detailed out of their districts and areas and even getting paid to cover an extra 4 hours. Just look in any Area 2 C.O. book. Paying them time and a half can't be cheaper than just making a class of clout Captains.
"...Schweiger always wears nice pants..."
His shirt is always an interesting shade of yellow.
Its to late,The Dept has beat us down and we are done,Daley closed the only unit that worked.SOS had its problems but 99percent of the coppers did nothing wrong.And now they need our help.NO way will I put my ass on the line.And u better have more coppers for Bud Biliken ,who know what they are doing,because those ppo,s and true have no clue.
http://www.state.il.us/court/
Opinions/AppellateCourt/2008/
1stDistrict/June/1072623.pdf
This is a case awarding duty-disability over the objections of the Department. Does anybody know how often people are re-evaluated after disability is awarded?
Exactly. Look @ the transfer order they just sent 25 People to Narcotics today. No knock to some of the folks on the list, but c'mon? More smoke & mirrors, business as usual nonsense....
All those people have been there for some time now, they were just cleaning it up by putting them on the order.
Captains and Lieutenants are get detailed out of their districts and areas and even getting paid to cover an extra 4 hours. Just look in any Area 2 C.O. book. Paying them time and a half can't be cheaper than just making a class of clout Captains
**PO's are to be paid OT if they move you out of your area to work. So for any PO that's working a rapid that gets sent to man another district out of their assigned area, put in the OT slip!!!
What do you think?
7/17/2008 08:30:00 AM
Because he is Hispanic, Lopez was reached for on the Sergeant's list before there was the merit game, he is also a meritorious Lieutenant, and he is one dumb sob. He is cocky, arrogant and a mean sob, too. He is dangerous because he is too stupid to realize that he is unqualified, however, he is the right ethnicity to keep all the politicos happy. He's no better than "Now Where Did I Park My Car" Limon.
Thanks the the hundreds of dog-asses that abuse it daily, we are all but guaranteed to lose it within the very near future.
The vast majority of police departments have switched to giving you one sick day a month. Thats twelve a year.
Your a sissy coward calling others dog-asses you live with one. anyway Moron we don't receive workmens comp thats why we get the medical. city saves. Big fucking deal worry about the White shirts who do nothing NO WORK. give the blue shirt a break.
Because he is Hispanic, Lopez was reached for on the Sergeant's list before there was the merit game, he is also a meritorious Lieutenant, and he is one dumb sob. He is cocky, arrogant and a mean sob, too.
**LAPA Guy
Lopez may have been a meritorious Lt, and he might be cocky. But I'd rather work for him than Carroll, Keating, or Cronin.
If you think those three were competent choices, think again. Cronin never even attended a college, and left the job as a Deputy Chief; John Risley also never attended college, but left as a Deputy Supt., and not a word in the media about it. Keating, a Sgt. by rank, bypassed Lt. completely and jumped to become Commander of 001. Do you think that happened because of brainpower? Ronnie Nash, before being indicted and sent to prison many years ago, "miraculously" rose through the ranks, from Detective to Captain in 5 years, after being shot while on a job with Vrdolyak's brother. There are far more examples of the Irish leapfrogging over others in this Dept. than there are of any other racial or ethnic group.
What do you think?
7/17/2008 08:30:00 AM
lopez, please stay off the blog. your shameless self-promotion is sickening. time after time, you have been promoted way beyond your capabilities because you are hispanic, now enjoy what you have and stop politicking for something you cannot handle. you can even continue to pretend you earned your rank and tell everybody you got screwed out of the chief's job. some ppo's might believe you.
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