How About a Garbage Rebate?
Everyone catch this trial balloon being floated by the Daley people?
- Chicago should impose a garbage collection fee -- similar to the freight suburbanites have paid for years -- to close a $420 million budget gap without massive layoffs and service cuts, an influential union leader said Monday.
- A fee of $10 a month from the 600,000 Chicago households that get city garbage pickup would generate $72 million a year. A $15 fee would produce $108 million.
Aldermen may call it a back-door property tax increase and claim Chicagoans expect refuse collection costs to be covered by their tax bill.
But the case can also be made that Chicago can no longer afford to provide a free service that costs money almost everywhere else.
We'd like a fee rebate if we don't fill our garbage cans every pick up day then. We compost all of our yard waste, saving the City money. We recycle metal, plastic, paper, cardboard and just about everything else even remotely reusable. If we can sneak a few bags into the neighbor's cans, we can go eight or ten weeks a year without a single pick up.
Or maybe Daley could stop giving away money, crooked contracts, no-show jobs, aldercreature raises, and any of a hundred more schemes and programs that serve no purpose? Or would that make sense?
FOP? Add this to the negotiations where being required to live in the City costs us way too much to keep up with the "raises" that end up being reductions.
Or maybe Daley could stop giving away money, crooked contracts, no-show jobs, aldercreature raises, and any of a hundred more schemes and programs that serve no purpose? Or would that make sense?
FOP? Add this to the negotiations where being required to live in the City costs us way too much to keep up with the "raises" that end up being reductions.
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"But the case can also be made that Chicago can no longer afford to provide a free service that costs money almost everywhere else."
How is this service free, when our taxes pay for it?
You'd think that that question would have been posed in the news article.
Anybody else notice a car or pick-up coming into the city loaded with garbage bags to be dumped into city garbage cans to avoid the suburban garbage collection fee's?
I notice it every so often on the Stevenson.
How long until the City just deducts our Taxes right out of our paychecks? How long till a City Income Tax is enacted by the Machine?
I propose toilet meters, 25 cents a flush.
Actually, I predict that this will just be the tip of the iceberg.
1. Expect to see the monthly costs rise every two to three years.
2. Maybe he'll require a city sticker for our garbage cans.
3. Expect replacement carts to also require an extra payment. (This will discourage people from bothering his alderman/ward committeeman...looking for a favor.)
4. Once a payment is missed, then expect Daley's contracted "revenuers" to issue citations for missed payments.
5. Both the payments and the administrative citations will double if they are not paid within two weeks.
And finally, if you get two tickets...Your garbage cart will be booted.
If we need to get rid of the garbage...start on the 5th floor of City Hall.
f.o.p. rep in roll call says everything is on the table for contract.... including no retro check? can you do pose another question like the j-fed no confidence poll? maybe something along the line of,"How can Donahue's head be so big but contain so little?" or "pay me right fuckin now!" wait...that would be a demand not a question.
Yeah, right. And good luck collecting from the residents of the ghettos who can't even place the minority (no pun intended) of their garbage into the City-provided cans. A quick jaunt through any Westside or Southside ghetto alley resembles the remnants of Hurricane Katrina. More shit strewed everywhere BUT the cans/dumpsters. Sidenote: I always wondered what it'd be like to just throw a shitty diaper out of a third floor window into a neighbor's weed-choked yard...but I digress. If this latest hair-brained scheme were ever to come to fruition, the ghetto rats should be charged five-fold for the service. But then like-thinkers would be labeled "racist", and those who contribute the most to the problem would end up getting garbage pick-up vouchers courtesy of you and I, the taxpayers. And round and round it goes, folks. Another fleecing in progress.
I LIVE IN THE BURBS AND WE PAY FOR GARBAGE PICKUP....ONE GUY ON THE TRUCK, NOT THREE PRECINCT CAPTAINS
This is a Fantastic idea. Hypes from the west and south sides will migrate to whitey's alley near and far to dump their chicken wings, empty hot chip bags, and spent blue juice containers. Disregard - they wont even have to pay the tax, because Meeks will threaten Blago. "If my peeps has ta pay da tax den wez goes on strike." Time for a group hug?
What does the city do with the money it gets from the sales of the recycled trash? Or did we not want the citizens about that? Well it's true, we sell the trash.
Screw this piece of crap. Just went over to Wisconsin to buy all my kids school supplies and clothes. Its worth the drive that iam not putting a penny into this hell hole they call a state. Its worth the drive knowing that piece of shit stroger will not see a penny of it. This is my way of saying SCREW YOU AND YOUR TAX HIKES. IAM SICK AND TIRED OF MY TAX DOLLARS PAYING FOR CORRUPTION!
I'll just bring my garbage to the station and toss it in the dumpster.
Anyone notice that Obamas wife spoke of her father working for the city and providing for her family. What she didnt say was that her father was wired to the Stroger camp and received his job through political clout. Chicago politics at its best and Barack was groomed from the moment he met his future wife. Obama is Daleys puppet and if he wins Daley cannot be stopped!!!!!
Off topic Daley was on TV showing his chest carpet while doing an interview. Wheres Maggie? Maybe he's hoping to catch a cougar!!!!
And what.... the inner city won't have garbage pick-up? Because they are NOT going to pay a penny for anything. This will be another program where the working people are charged a fee and the tax absorbers will get it for free. Once again a working people's tax. Plain and simple.
Can you imagine what the residents of Englewood will do with their garbage if they are told they have to pay a garbage pick-up fee! There will be more garbage dumped and thrown into the empty lots than there already is!
what about if they don't? Pay does that mean no garbage pick-up!
Once again I will say it. Now is the time, when the city is crying poor mouth no money for raises ate. For the FOP to try for the No Residency for police. Take a small raise and get out of the city. Your taxes, property taxes may go up slighty, but the quality of life will improve so much you will be glad to settle for less money. No more private schools, No more 40oz drinkers on the corners. Bye Bye phoney revs, let Nero fiddle( Daley) while Rome Taxes you to death( garbage tax) The membership just wont have to give a fuck cause your gone. This is a great time to go for it. The economics are in our favor. Only the clout babies will stay to kiss the alder creatures ass and ring door bells on election days. FOP poll the members think about it.
A retired suburban living CPD
I'm confused. It is not a free service. Our taxes pay for streets and san workers. Up at the summer place we pay monthly for pickup however outside companies are contracted out after legit bid process. If we do not like them, we can find another waste hauler.
What is going to happen in some neighborhoods when they do not pay, they will stop picking up? It will look worse then it already does.
A Wife
who gets fucked again the working person enough already. i am tired of being the stupid one get up go to work take care of the kids i brought into this world make sure i do my part. its just not this city its the state the county when will the working people just say go fuck yourself.lets charge the shit heads for every 911 call when the little shit wont eat or go to school or when baby moma want baby daddy out for the 20th time.lets have the wagon pick up garbage.garbage in garbage out.vote dummycrat
free???? those who pay taxes, pay for their garbage pickup
IT'S ALL FOR THE CHILDREN...
So, even the relatively high 10-to-15 dollar a month fee that they're talking about will not even come close to closing the budget gap. And it will piss off the homeowners. Epic fail.
Holy ...Chicago can no longer afford to provide a free service that costs money almost everywhere else." Batman!!!
Since when is anything city service been free to a property tax payer?
How about the politicians take a 30% wage decrease that includes cuts in their office and camera funds?
How about eliminating set aside programs that over charge the city for goods and services?
How about making sure the city doesn't double pay vendor bills?
How about taking all those stupid police cameras that don't even displaced crime anymore and sell them to another city?
Any citizen could look at the city's budget and find ways to cut line items out.
How about not giving away $930,000.00 three year contacts to police superintendents. J-fed already lost one his his jobs at 911 because he's incompetent. Does the city get any money back?
It is not a free service. We pay for it in our property taxes. Besides who is gonna pay for it. Pookie? Ray-Ray? Nope! Just us taxpayers getting hit with 2 fees for the same service?
How about taking those cans away from the apt. buildings with more than three units. Go drive down some alley's during your tour. You will see lots of those corner units with 6 or more apts. getting free city service. According to the rules, these units are supposed to have a private service. So why are they getting free service? Are building owners giving political donations to get these cans? Hmmmm.....
How about a dramatic tax DECREASE?! That would increase re venue! Or does no one else remember Reaganomics? Fuck you Daley! Give me a good contract!
I'm sure pookey will be paying for garbage pick-up. Right after the cable bill, cell phone, and car note. What's the city going to do to non payers? Not pick up the garbage? The south and west sides will look like garbage dumps.
as long as we're charging for garbage pick up, how about charging per police service call....
I THINK THE FOP SHOULD DROP THAT UNIFORM ALLOWANCE AND GO WITH A COST OF LIVING IN THE CITY ALLOWANCE:
START WITH CITY STICKERS
DOG LICENSE
DOWNTOWN SALES TAX
WAIVER OF ALL PARK FEES AND MUSEUM FEES
DISCOUNT ON BOAT DOCKING BY THE LAKE
WAIVER ON BUILDING PERMIT FEES FOR
AN OFFICERS RESIDENCE
REBATE ON R TAX MONEY WE PAY TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IF WE DONT HAVE KIDS OR DONT SEND THEM TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
FREE CITY COLLEGE FOR ALL OFFICERS AND THEIR FAMILIES
ABLE TO OWN A LIQUOR ESTABLISHMENT
OR STRIP CLUB
AS U CAN SEE THE CITY BANGS US WITH NO LUBE. THEY GET U CUMMIN AND GOING SO WE SHOULD ASK FOR GOODIES THE CITY THE CITY CAN GIVE OUT. SINCE THE CITY IS BROKE?
DONT WORRY THE OLYMPICS WILL SAVE US ALL!?!
Speaking of raises.... why is it that the alderman are due to get a 6 1/2 % raise. Which they say is a cost of living raise and we are only looking at 1 - 2 %? Just hope the FOP is looking at this also.
You get a certain amount of tax dollars from the citizens. Our elected officials piss it away by handing it out to family and friends as well as every non working ass, or working illegal, and now they want more tax dollars from the citizens? So if you keep handing out cash to people who don't give back, what do you get?
REMEMBER NAPERVILLE DOES NOT HAVE THE FEE.
yea like you would get the ghetto to pay. give me a break!
How much longer do we have to pay for the have nots??
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!
what the fuck ! were are our taxes going ? we got to pay up the ass for city stickers every year, public schools we cant send our kids to cause they suck,ridiculous percentages on consumer goods ,
property taxes are no longer affordable no money for a decent raise for police so were working without a contract the list goes on and on and now he wants to impose some fucking fee for garbage what the fuck do our taxes cover ? his gambling debt or what
hey um j-fed why dont you use your fed contact to look into your fucking crook of a boss insted of fucking with us you fuck !!!
Hey King Rich your and egotistical maniac, FUCK YOU AND YOUR ALDERCREATURES. I hope you all have a big grabber and die.
LIFT RESIDENCY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm tired of you MF's coming here and complaining on how these dumb crooked democRATS keep taxing us to death. I wish I had good leadership skills on how to organize a movement, but I lack that skill. One thing I know I am good at is being a good soldier, Iam wiling and ready to protest, get involved on a political action group, or even RIOT to show that I am tired of this broke ass system and am not taking it anymore. Its time to get out from behind that keyboard and put boots on the ground. Anyone with good organizing skills up to the task?
Daley also wants to regulate private garbage pick ups in the city. He will give each of the 13 private trash companys a sector of the city where they will be the only licensed provider. Then the city will charge the provider (ergo, the resident) a fee that goes to the city. What a bunch of B.S.! Anything to make a quick buck off the little guy. I'm signing up for my trash voucher right now...
Garbage pickup in my neighborhood(45th Ward)is the only reliable city service that we get. Our crew is great. How about instead we cut down to 20 alderpersons (more than enough) cut the number of ward superintendents to 20 and fuck the garbage pickup tax?
Former ADS Dennis V. Prieto retired on a fat Police Pension, in February 2008,he became a new hire at OEMC now drawing over $56,000.00 dollars of our tax payers dollars. Follow the money!
Next will come an increase in the water fees. That is the last and only break Chicagoans get....cheap water. King Richard II will jack that up soon enough. Fucking asshat!
Shaved hit the nail on the head,so to speak..no pun. The clout-babies at revenue can't get the "oppressed" to pay parking tickets how in the hell are they going to collect"garbage" fees???
GARBAGE REBATE YOU SAY??
The "GARBAGE REBATE" Should Be In The Form Of IMMEDIATE Resignations From The Stuttering Prick, JPUD, ALL ALDERSCUM/ALDERFRAUDS, All Clout Exempts & Fake Storefront Revs, ie Meeks & That's Just For Beginners.
Add Sum more Names If you will To the Above
Throw In The Honor Students/Thugs Too, You Can Use Them For Kitty Litter, To Soak Up the Havoc They Have Reiked!!!!
Stay Safe, Shoot Straight & Back Up Your Brothers/Sisters In Blue ALWAYS!!
Don't we pay for garbage pick up via our property taxes? I can see it now....The garbage trucks equipped with a computer listing, by alley address, who paid and who didn't pay. Your garbage gets picked up (if you paid your garbage disposal bill) and your neighbors doesn't. Then you catch your neighbors using your can and you have no room for your garbage. (This could cause domestic unrest among neighbors!) Then the rat population increases in the alleys. Then they'll start charging for rat disposal. (Hopefully they would start with the fat rat on the 5th floor at city hall!) My god, these people get paid x amount of $$$$ to come up with such stupid ideas. If we started taxing the stupidity in city,county, AND state government we would have windfall profits that far exceed those of the oil companies! What is wrong with these people? (Loaded question!)
look ! the time has come to eliminate the residency reqirement.
to all you guys who worry about to whom you will sell your house consider this..... the average patrolman cant afford your house anyway. you arent gonna sell it to a policeman unless he won the lottery or married well.
Hey , I live in a rural area and I pay 13@month for my garbage removal so don't bitch .
And what.... the inner city won't have garbage pick-up? Because they are NOT going to pay a penny for anything. This will be another program where the working people are charged a fee and the tax absorbers will get it for free. Once again a working people's tax. Plain and simple.
8/27/2008 01:56:00 AM
When you refer to the "inner city" where exactly do you mean? As far as I can see, the inner city is very wealthy and full of tax paying citizens. There are a few buildings at Cabrini but other than that it's all yuppie now and all big time tax payers!! By inner city, I am thinking of a pretty large area too....North Ave to Roosevelt Road and Halsted to the Lake.....not too many people there who are poor. You can extend that out to Western up to Fullerton and down to 18th St and you will still have the same results so where exactly is this "inner city" that is supposedly full of ghetto poor non-tax payers that you so often refer to in your postings???
Maybe the city could sell "Yellow Bags" since the "Blue bags" campaign the City spent so much money on was so successful!!! especially in the Ghetto
Anonymous said...
f.o.p. rep in roll call says everything is on the table for contract.... including no retro check?
Where do you cement heads come up with this crap? I'll bet you believed your mother when she told you that the gas, electic, mail, and UPS men coming out of her bedroom were your uncles.
To boldly go where no man has gone before..... How about eliminating the district manager positions? What the hell do they do anyway?
I LIVE IN THE BURBS AND WE PAY FOR GARBAGE PICKUP....ONE GUY ON THE TRUCK, NOT THREE PRECINCT CAPTAINS
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And, you probably don't have ghettos who continually get these services for free.
We, the working people of the city of Shitcago keep paying for hypes to live for free.
We pay....for their CRACK!!!!
Then, get Fu$%^& on contract.
Now, we should be the happy police!!!
Mayor Daily screw over the Cops loves the immigrants...Give them our homes so we could move out of this shithole.
It's not a free service when we pay taxes already!!! These are the dumb people in charge that we have to put up with. Are section 8 residents going to pay for garbage collection too? Stop the waste/ corrupt politics. What about condos? They have to pay for a private service and they pay taxes. They get screwed twice.
Just went to Cosco in Naperville on rt.59 Stocked up and they have gas for 3.86. filled up too. Thanks City of Chicago.
That's fine. I'll get out the old 55 gallon steel drum and start burning my refuse!
They don't need a garbage fee.
Instead just have one guy on the truck like the suburbs do. The driver pulls up, gets his ass out, walks to the garbage can, empties it into the back of the truck, and still has time to smile and wave like a "human being" proud to be employed.
Unlike these lazy "patronage" city schlubs, who spill 1/2 the contents of the can on the ground and let it blow away. Then if you say something to them about it, you get an unintelligable mumble in "ebonics!"
Fucking joke. This city is done, you might as well stick a fork in her!
This little shithead mayor just keeps pushing the taxpayers to the breaking point, just so he can keep shitting away our cash into his buddies pockets.
Keep it up shitbag, and push us all into a real nice revolt against yer ass!
Piss us off enough, and you won't be able to walk out the outhouse doors of city hall to hide in your free car all the way home or go anywhere in the free city without a nice gaggle of your pissed off constituants and the media calling for your resignation, douchebag!
Yeah, right. And good luck collecting from the residents of the ghettos who can't even place the minority (no pun intended) of their garbage into the City-provided cans.
Well, it's the democrapic way to force all of US TAXPAYERS in this shithole to pay for the lazy fuckin' scumbags that circle the anus of this city.
Don't worry, shitheads proposal on a per household amount will cover the criminal shitheads who live here for free and suck 98% of the city services.
That's why it's great to live in this democratic city, us taxpayers get to foot the bill for the deliberately lazy money suckers/offenders.
While you work, take a personel, go home , pick up your garbage and dump it in the ghetto.
Whats the big deal?
This trial ballon is like trying to plug a one inch hole in the middle of the Hoover Dam with Mini Me's pinky finger.
Nothing is going to change as far as city revenue shortfalls and higher taxes are concerned until these overly generous defined benefit programs that are given to far too many city workers, administrators and teachers are reined in.
This years to last years increase in the underfunded liabilty for these pensions is about 400 million dollars, just about the city's debt.
Each year it gets worse. It's a Ponzi scheme.
- Not a Cop
So on the same note about $$$$.....
I'm on my way home yesterday and today, down Madison St, and what's in the center of the street??? THREE trucks with a total of 12 people working on the flower pots. Here's where your missing 420 million is Richie. Sitting in the middle of Madison. Why don't you send them home and give your budget hole a fill-up.
If I choose not to, can I opt out of city garbage plan?Just pack my shit in the car and throw it on the steet when I hit the district.The way the neighborhood looks now no one would notice anyway.FUCK YOU DALEY,YOU JAGOFF!
The extortion continues.
Anonymous said...
Former ADS Dennis V. Prieto retired on a fat Police Pension, in February 2008,he became a new hire at OEMC now drawing over $56,000.00 dollars of our tax payers dollars. Follow the money!
8/27/2008 12:37:00 PM
OEMC is full of retired white shirts. Very shocking. Not enough to have a very good pension but no they continue to feed at government through with another job.
The garbage fee will be added to the long list of fees on your property tax bill ensuring payment by each and every city residence.
Blah Blah Blah. You want action try organizing and having a protest against city hall. Take a page from the REVS. book. Alert all the media outlets and demand a fair contract and NO residency. You will see action like never before. Get the public on your side. Bet no one will do it because every man/woman is an island and this administration knows it.
my route garbargemen take 2-3 hour lunch breaks on my pickup day..pay for this ????????
Anonymous said...
I'll just bring my garbage to the station and toss it in the dumpster.
8/27/2008 01:25:00 AM
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or just take it to work and dump it at 4100 w. wilcox or 23rd /dearborn or 67th/honore or 900 w. wilson or 79th/cottage grove . no one will notice the extra garbage thrown there.
Anonymous said...
Former ADS Dennis V. Prieto retired on a fat Police Pension, in February 2008,he became a new hire at OEMC now drawing over $56,000.00 dollars of our tax payers dollars. Follow the money!
8/27/2008 12:37:00 PM
OEMC is full of retired white shirts. Very shocking. Not enough to have a very good pension but no they continue to feed at government through with another job.
8/27/2008 09:48:00 PM
OEMC try the Sheriffs Dept. where do you thinkl Nolan from the FOP went???? Hes in charge of the Daley Center
Anonymous said...
Garbage pickup in my neighborhood(45th Ward)is the only reliable city service that we get. Our crew is great. How about instead we cut down to 20 alderpersons (more than enough) cut the number of ward superintendents to 20 and fuck the garbage pickup tax?
8/27/2008 12:10:00 PM
This is an excellent point, C’mon we have 311 for city services and By the way it works. And since were on the subject have them all drug tested.
Rural Guy said...
Hey , I live in a rural area and I pay 13@month for my garbage removal so don't bitch .
8/27/2008 02:44:00 PM
Do you pay $75 for a city sticker?
Wait a minute you have a pick up right $180 city sticker. and by the way you can't park your truck on the street go figure.
Anonymous said...
Don't we pay for garbage pick up via our property taxes? I can see it now....The garbage trucks equipped with a computer listing, by alley address, who paid and who didn't pay. Your garbage gets picked up (if you paid your garbage disposal bill) and your neighbors doesn't. Then you catch your neighbors using your can and you have no room for your garbage. (This could cause domestic unrest among neighbors!) Then the rat population increases in the alleys. Then they'll start charging for rat disposal. (Hopefully they would start with the fat rat on the 5th floor at city hall!) My god, these people get paid x amount of $$$$ to come up with such stupid ideas. If we started taxing the stupidity in city,county, AND state government we would have windfall profits that far exceed those of the oil companies! What is wrong with these people? (Loaded question!)
8/27/2008 02:27:00 PM
Great idea neighbor don't pay then garbage everywhere rat city, just like the westside is now! New York tried garbage bullshit years ago, went to total private pick up the bid was cheap, 2 years later the price skyrocketed and the city sold all there old trucks. typical daley fashion milk the people who actually pay their taxes! How about charging for all the illegals in schools, as a matter of fact mayor moron how about sending all illegals back would save billions quickly shitcago would have less crime and be flush with cash. daley you could then give police 10% a year raise, 25 and 80% then watch us WORK jagoff!
If I have to pay for garbage. You can kiss my ass if you think Im going to recycle. It aint going to happen.
that's bullshit im a single guy and i put out my garbage can about once every two to three weeks.
""that's bullshit im a single guy and i put out my garbage can about once every two to three weeks.""
And the Mexican pickup truck drivers probably take 1/2 of your garbage away for free (all your empty beer cans).
But that's ok, you are where the money will come from to pick up from the ghetto. I think they call it Socialism. You pay the same but use less, so the government gives it to the next guy.
We already pay for our garbage pick up, it's called property taxes.
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