This Will Stop Crime!
- Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich signed legislation Monday that would offer more protection to victims of domestic violence by allowing satellite tracking of those who violate orders of protection.
"This is a way to enforce court orders of protection before it's too late," Blagojevich said.
Thank goodness for a COURT ORDER! Until at some point, the recipient of the Order of Protection decides (s)he really doesn't care if (s)he spends the rest of their life in prison and removes/disables the GPS system and takes out their anger on the victim. Sometimes, people just don't care about anything but revenge.
What would work wonders though - concealed carry. We're just saying.
What would work wonders though - concealed carry. We're just saying.
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posted by SCC at 9:07 AM
70 Comments:
smoke and mirrors my brothers at SCC cops. ask the domestic violence dicks how no one never goes and gets an order of protection. this is not suburbia, we cant monitor the felons on electric monitoring from the county how are we going to watch the stalkers
Before you know it, lets just GPS everybody. Maybe this will be the mark of the beast when Obamamesiah becomes leader of the world.
Gee,I have an idea.
How about allowing Chicago citizens to possess a handgun for self defense!
This is almost as stupid as charging w/a crime or indicting people who blow themselves up and cut off peoples heads w/a dull knife.
"What would work wonders though - concealed carry."
Amen.
8 squad cars city wide had to be towed today because they were driven into flooded viaducts.
YOU BIG DUMMIES!!!!!!
You know I was looking at a map of shootings in Chicago for the year and was reminded of Daley's line about turning things into the "Old West" if private citizens were allowed to have handguns. I couldn't help but think that the map looked a lot like the "Old West" now. Would it really hurt to allow people to be able to protect themselves rather than going to the slaughter like lambs? The police are doing their job, very well thank you, but their job is not to be the personal body guard of every man, woman and child. That in essence is what Daley is saying the police are expected to do and it completely unrealistic; moreover that the people are supposed to trust in this? Now, which is more insane? Asking that responsible adults be allowed to carry firearms...kind of like responsible adult police officers and body guards do every day in Chicago...or asking people to trust that police will be in all places at all times to protect every innocent person? Why are we so far away from seeing handgun carry in Chicago becoming a reality? It's outrageous.
They ought to have the gps hooked up to a syringe... once you stray too far or fiddle with the bracelet, it injects you with something that knocks your ass flat....
OT...but why does it seem that for every one good sgt out there, there are two bad ones? Watch your own backs people!
Can't tell you how many of these cases my unit sees on a weekly basis! I'm sure the victim will be helped by knowing goofy has 'gone off the leash'. (If there's even a timely notification at all.) NOT.
Nothing says love like an Order of Protection.
Gov. Rod Blagojevich just doesn't want to be the only one wearing a IDOC GPS braclet.
Just more smoke and mirrors. Another usless law that wont be able to protect anybody. Just pays lip service.
Kinda like the gun ordinance in chicago...That one has really worked!!
I say what we do what they did in that prison movie....
A bomb strapped to his neck. When he comes withing 100 feet of the person who has the order of protection.... KA-BOOM!
And the nice thing about this is that the person who has the order of protecton... can sneak up on the guy and once again KA-BOOM!
Either way... a win win for the protectee.
O.T.
Hmmm...not a bad idea from today's Wall Street Journal:
RICHMOND, Va. -- The National Rifle Association and the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence rarely agree on anything related to gun laws. But both support a law-enforcement program in Richmond that targets gun crimes.
The Supreme Court's Second Amendment decision in June that struck down restrictions on individual gun ownership caused city officials nationwide to worry that they could see an increase in gun violence. It also renewed interest in Richmond's efforts to combat it. The city has already reduced firearm-related violence dramatically. It has done so not by making gun purchases more difficult -- Virginia is one of the easiest places to legally buy a handgun -- but by severely punishing all gun crimes, including those as minor as illegal possession.
Maybe we can surgically implant the device and the victim could track the whereabouts of the offender at all times. If the offender attempts to remove the device a small amount of cyanide would be automatically released into the bloodstream of said offender instantly killing him. Of course the state would probably have to fit the bill for the burial so let's just forget that idea. Would be nice however.
SCC supports concealed carry...a reason in itself to support SCC, and CPD.
SCC, You know what else would work? Sending these jagoffs to prison when they violate the order of protection. Just once. The first violation. Not giving them 50shots at the victim and double-secret supervision/probation...
but, damn, then we'd have to build more prisons. I'm okay with that, too.
Howdy,
Thank you SCC for the support of concealled carry in Illinois and Chicago. I believe that most Police Officers support concealed carry. I know if I were a Police Officer that I could count on a law-abiding citizen who was armed to assist me in my duties, if asked. I support concealed carry to protect myself & family. I'm not trained to breakdown downs or enforce other laws. You guys do a wonderful job, and I'm not about to take it away, but I will vigiously defended myself and family. Keep up the good work, I love to read your articles, but don't understand some of the "TRU, 012, SOG" stuff. A cncerned patriot!
Please Help:
How is it that the number of retired/put out to pasture Feds J-Fiend keeps hiring continues to grow while the number of patrol officers continues to shrink?
Jodi just hired another one the other day.
How can J-ineffective expect to increase the morale of the police department when he insists on hiring people with ZERO police experience to lead the department?
was that storm last night the chosen one trying to walk across the lake.go mccain
OFF TOPIC, BUT INTERESTING:
This just in via the fax machine in every district/unit:
"Due to ongoing budgetary issues and the Department's need to conserve resources, no overtime will be granted for attendance at CAPS Beat Meetings or any other CAPS related functions, from this point forward. Kindly ensure that only on-duty personnel are assigned to CAPS Beat Meeting and other CAPS related functions."
- Jody P. Weis
Here we go, boys and girls. The unoffical cut-backs have begun because they have no money to give us raises. Let's see how long it takes the CAPS house mice to be coddled into another sweet, do-nothing job.
three days and counting til make or break day for j-fed. GO BUD-BILLIKENS(sp)
It was another pitifull day to be the police again in Austin. As if this wasn't the topic of conversation a few days ago. yet again OUR parking lot was shut down for a Caps night out & the station AGAIN was a zoo. I'm sure thousands of dollars was wasted to feed these little creatures. Our parking lot and place of work had yet another day of kids yelling and screeming inside the station causing a scene, shouting po-lice!! Arrest him! he/she hit me to any officer that was in hearing distance. I can say i'm discusted by this caps program and how much money was AGAIN thrown out the window. And to top things off, they set up the BBQ right next to the A/C intake smoking everybody out that was inside.
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At roll call today the (screaming) video was about riot control. Then we got a hand out about mass arrests! Bud Billiken you ask? I was told NO! Don’t even think about arresting anyone there during the parade. In the park after the parade OK! This is for something else? You can take a guess.
"What would work wonders though - concealed carry."
Amen.
Amen amen.
A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. The weak link in this scenario is the ability to cut the device off.
Unless a GPS device can be put inside the body (think the movie TOTAL RECALL) it can be defeated.
Those who violate orders of protection KNOW they are violating it. If they are willing to violate the order, they're willing to cut the device off and do what they will.
This legislation is not real and will accomplish nothing but make a lot of people feel safer when they actually are not.
chalkie showed up in 012. 2200 w. monroe. may be two victims
CAPS IS DEAD...GOOD,now send all those PUKES back to the street to answer radio assignments and not just hide!!!
SCC: Please post the thread about pookie from a city (not Chicago, of course could have been any west sider w/ a rap sheet) who kept on calling 911 because Subway didn't make his sandwich right. They ended up arresting his ass for being pookie.
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD...CAPS is finally over with. Good job J-WAD! Now if you would only go to each and every district and find all those useless mice and send them to the street with a radio to answer calls for service. I must warn you that there are thousands of them and they can be pretty hard to find...
CAPS= HE GONE.... We all knew it was a big dog & pony show from day one. Now go in and look really hard to find them all. You will be surprised!
How many caps LTS. are there?
1 shot in 009. 43rd / cali
This just in via the fax machine in every district/unit:
"Due to ongoing budgetary issues and the Department's need to conserve resources, no overtime will be granted for attendance at CAPS Beat Meetings or any other CAPS related functions, from this point forward. Kindly ensure that only on-duty personnel are assigned to CAPS Beat Meeting and other CAPS related functions."
- Jody P. Weis
8/05/2008 05:55:00 PM
That will be rescinded by Friday.
I've finally seen it all.
A police officer from SWAT, on-duty at a "barricade" incident on the south side wearing a red handkerchief on his head.
Very professional. Let alone the fact that a guy who might have had a KNIFE is too much for a couple of Beat cars to handle.
This department deserves to be ridiculed. It is truly embarrassing to be a Chicago Police Officer.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-south-side-barricade-webaug06,0,7670353.story
Boys and Girls keep turning info over to ICE so we can get rid of the illegals in this city!!! Imagine that the city doesnt want You to enforce Federal Law. But you good Americans can cough up the cash for running a red light. What a city
Guys ripping on Ernie Brown not getting a job in Arizona is not so classy. That is something that can happen to anybody who is a white shirt on this job. The guy was a Deputy and got knocked down to a Lietenant's pay grade thus taking a $50K pay cut. Poor guy lost his house to foreclosure as a result. Again anybody who has achieved anything on this job beyond being a beat car slug could suffer the same misfortune..... Oh and it is a shame that beat cars couldn't handle a barricaded subject in a garage with a knife. What a waste of HBT/SWAT's time and expertise. The unit is set up to handle Al Queda or homeland security type incidents not knuckle head ex-cops sick with puppy love. What is the job coming to? In the old days Rick Miller and couple of the boys could have handled that with no problem and got overtime out of it.
Recently Retired CPD LT
I thought CAPS was federally funded.
Just put a collar around the stalker's neck and an electric fence around the victim's personal space and watch the fun begin.
Excellent point 03:55:00 PM.
One of the greatest benefits to residents of states allowing concealed carry is the strict enforcement of laws and greater penalties concerning UNLAWFUL possesion/use of a firearm. Funny how this is never mentioned by the media around here when the subject comes up.
Could you imagine...asa's and judges that HAVE to prosecute and sentence unlawful possession? Mandatory jail time - no exceptions.
OT: Re 2016 Olympics.
I hear it's gonna be called "Mayor Daley's Olympics". Just voted in by the city council.
Chalkie is the Official 2016 Olympic mascot touting:
Mayor Daley welcomes you to the "Murder Capital of the World"
Guys ripping on Ernie Brown not getting a job in Arizona is not so classy. That is something that can happen to anybody who is a white shirt on this job. The guy was a Deputy and got knocked down to a Lietenant's pay grade thus taking a $50K pay cut. Poor guy lost his house to foreclosure as a result. Again anybody who has achieved anything on this job beyond being a beat car slug could suffer the same misfortune.....
The above comment has to be sarcasm, right? If not, we're glad you retired.
Anonymous said...
I've finally seen it all.
A police officer from SWAT, on-duty at a "barricade" incident on the south side wearing a red handkerchief on his head.
Very professional. Let alone the fact that a guy who might have had a KNIFE is too much for a couple of Beat cars to handle.
This department deserves to be ridiculed. It is truly embarrassing to be a Chicago Police Officer.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-south-side-barricade-webaug06,0,7670353.story
8/05/2008 09:17:00 PM
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Look again detective... the copper wearing the bandana is NOT SWAT. He's a district gang or tact guy wearing camo BDU pants. The SWAT guys are to his 6 in the photo, geared and ready to go. Incident did involve a former PO so there was no telling what he had in the garage with him. There was also the fact that he told negotiators that the only way he was leaving was in a body bag.
Gotta hand it to the SWAT guys, a few tanks of OC/CS and they took him into custody without anyone being hurt.
Now go back to studying for the next dicks test, but brush up on your observational skills too while you're at it.
Some of "THEM" have been hiding in the caps office for 15 yrs...
SCC watching Glen Beck & the scroll on bottom of the page said Los Angeles had its lowest murder count for the month of July(19) since 1970. Betcha they have computers that work, two man cars, and a CONTRACT. P.S. Monique its pretty warm in L.A. in July
Keep your heads up young buckaroos, the new SUV cruisers are on the way.
Eddie Welch the turd gave a very good speech today way to inspire the troops. You sir are an asshat eddie.
I've finally seen it all.
A police officer from SWAT, on-duty at a "barricade" incident on the south side wearing a red handkerchief on his head.
Very professional. Let alone the fact that a guy who might have had a KNIFE is too much for a couple of Beat cars to handle.
This department deserves to be ridiculed. It is truly embarrassing to be a Chicago Police Officer.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-south-side-barricade-webaug06,0,7670353.story
8/05/2008 09:17:00 PM
Although gay looking in his own right I think he is tac guy. He is not wearing the SWAT uniform. This particular douche is sporting camo cargo pants.
SEND HELP !!! this crazy ass Sgt. Avilla in Special Functions is out of control, he is drivng all of us nuts, micro manages everything, driving the Secret Service guys nuts when he checks on the guys assigned to Obama, He is so so far up the commanders ass its amazing how he is embarrassing himself, or is he just burned out from working all the hours at his full time job at Guardian Security, Save us all, before they get him working there on CPD time .
Guys ripping on Ernie Brown not getting a job in Arizona is not so classy. That is something that can happen to anybody who is a white shirt on this job. The guy was a Deputy and got knocked down to a Lietenant's pay grade thus taking a $50K pay cut. Poor guy lost his house to foreclosure as a result....
Recently Retired CPD LT
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You obviously know nothing of foreclosures. It doesn't happen because somebody takes a $50,000 paycut. It actually can take almost a year or more. What it shows is an underlying problem that was brewing all along. Karma is a bitch...
OT...but why does it seem that for every one good sgt out there, there are two bad ones? Watch your own backs people!
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I have a question. Based upon this post, what is the definition of a good sgt? Is a good sgt one who:
1. Ignores what's going on, never calling out dogs thereby keeping the dogs happy but pissing off the workers.
2. Allows late lunches, no matter who asks.
3. Never rides to jobs unless called upon so that people don't think that they are being over supervised.
Or, is a good sgt one who:
1. Calls out the dogs, pissing them off but showing the workers that what they do is important and valued.
2. Doesn't always give the late lunches, because by allowing them puts more pressure on the people who have to stay.
3. Shows up on jobs just to back people up and help out if needed. And give advice if warranted.
Just curious, because there will be people who think that my first group of questions would make a good sgt, and other think that the second set of questions would make a good sgt.
I wonder how the majority feels?
A police officer from SWAT, on-duty at a "barricade" incident on the south side wearing a red handkerchief on his head.
Hey, fuck-stick, guys on right, in all green W/Black vest covers = SWAT!
Guy on right with blue T-shirt, red snot-rag covering bald spot = District cop.
Oh, BTW, where were you? I didnt see you running in the house after the guy?
he Supreme Court's Second Amendment decision in June that struck down restrictions on individual gun ownership caused city officials nationwide to worry that they could see an increase in gun violence. It also renewed interest in Richmond's efforts to combat it. The city has already reduced firearm-related violence dramatically. It has done so not by making gun purchases more difficult -- Virginia is one of the easiest places to legally buy a handgun -- but by severely punishing all gun crimes, including those as minor as illegal possession.
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Hello Mayor, Mara, are you reading this???????Call your pals at the States Attorney's office and tell them to start doing their jobs....
Hey recently retired CPD Lt. go fuck yourself.
Anonymous said...
Guys ripping on Ernie Brown not getting a job in Arizona is not so classy. That is something that can happen to anybody who is a white shirt on this job. The guy was a Deputy and got knocked down to a Lietenant's pay grade thus taking a $50K pay cut. Poor guy lost his house to foreclosure as a result. Again anybody who has achieved anything on this job beyond being a beat car slug could suffer the same misfortune..... Oh and it is a shame that beat cars couldn't handle a barricaded subject in a garage with a knife. What a waste of HBT/SWAT's time and expertise. The unit is set up to handle Al Queda or homeland security type incidents not knuckle head ex-cops sick with puppy love. What is the job coming to? In the old days Rick Miller and couple of the boys could have handled that with no problem and got overtime out of it.
Recently Retired CPD LT
8/05/2008 09:41:00 PM
Are we discussing the same person? Downtowm ernie brown? Wasn't he investigated by feds a few years ago including having his work locker searched? Arizona found something that stunk in his background. Find something else to do retired LT.
Concealed carry? In Illinois? As long as this state has its current crop of feckless Republicans and socialist-trained Democrats, it'll never happen. After all, if the government officials start giving an individual the idea that he can protect himself, he has the opportunity to ponder his situation in life. He might start wondering why said government officials are constantly demanding more money without ever fixing things. He may even vote against them, as the threat of violent coercion can be countered.
That's why it'll never happen. Too many Democrat pols are wedded to the idea of a welfare state. Independence from the state is forbidden.
By the way, SCC, are you part of the Chalkie 2016 committee? I like the shirt.
The GPS thing will work for those who are not inclined to murder their ex spouse, girlfriend etc. There will still be the few who will kill their ex no matter what. Only a steel room with iron bars will stop those few.
SCC: AAAWWWWW< Come on man, that post about Shields, Brown and the GPS bit was FUNNY! I'll bet good money you were laughting your ass off when you deleted that!
Guys ripping on Ernie Brown not getting a job in Arizona is not so classy. That is something that can happen to anybody who is a white shirt on this job. The guy was a Deputy and got knocked down to a Lietenant's pay grade thus taking a $50K pay cut. Poor guy lost his house to foreclosure as a result....
Recently Retired CPD LT
I, and a lot of other Cops your beloved Downtown Brown fucked over in the past are just sitting here with a smile on our face. As someone so eloquently stated before; "karma is a bitch"!
Back to the SWAT comment... no need to throw comments about the district guy wearing the camo cargos and bandanna, he was there and he was securing the perimeter. How he dresses is his own business.
Also, Active Shooter incident in 006 last night involving an offender that shot numerous rounds at numerous PO's (including the guys in the helicopter) was contained by district personnel (awesome job guys in 006, truly, it could not have gone as well as it did without those who were first on scene) and then SWAT arrived. Immediate action team assembled when homey bolts from the alley toward the BEAR cat toward SWAT members shooting. Sgt AK (who I remember someone talking shit about here on the blog awhile back but never included his name, pussy) took a round in the vest, through the med pouch and shattering two magazines, he returned fire along with the rest of the stack (which included another sgt because the sgts on SWAT lead by example) and bad guy went down. Bad guy was still shooting at PO's even after taking rounds so a few more rounds were put into him.
Can we please stop talking shit about SWAT or even district personnel that respond to what wind up becoming SWAT jobs? If it werent for the district personnel setting up that perimeter, homey may have gotten away after shooting at the police. If SWAT wouldnt have shown up to finish the job, more PO's may have been injured.
WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM HERE.
"Anonymous said...
Excellent point 03:55:00 PM.
One of the greatest benefits to residents of states allowing concealed carry is the strict enforcement of laws and greater penalties concerning UNLAWFUL possesion/use of a firearm. Funny how this is never mentioned by the media around here when the subject comes up.
Could you imagine...asa's and judges that HAVE to prosecute and sentence unlawful possession? Mandatory jail time - no exceptions.
8/05/2008 09:53:00 PM"
I wish that I could tell you that thugs are hammered in TN for unlawful possession. However, it's a misdemeanor in TN unless you happen to be a convicted felon. Even resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer is a misdemeanor here. The ADAs are very prone to Nol Pros a resisting arrest charge, at least here in Memphis. The only real good news is that convicted felons with a weapon can usually count on some real time, as they are regularly sent over to the Feds for prosecution.
Anonymous said...
"What would work wonders though - concealed carry."
Amen.
8/05/2008 10:49:00 AM
I live in Shelby Co., TN, and I'm a cop in Memphis. Perhaps after having been denied this basic right for so long, IL citizens would seriously avail themselves of being able to protect themselves and others, if given the chance. However, I'm not so sure that would happen.
Even with a population of roughly 1 million inside Shelby Co., we have less than 30,000 permit holders. The permit process is relatively easy and inexpensive, so I'm doubtful that is the reason that there aren't more permit holders.
A much more likely reason is that people in this country have been turned into sheeple, with no real will to resist, no matter whether the knock on the door is from a criminal who has come to take their money or another politician coming to take more of their rights.
Sidenote: If you want citizens to be able to carry, push for a handgun carry permit that allows for both concealed and open carry. If it says just concealed carry, the pols will come up with a brandishing law that is vague enough that anybody glimpsing a permit holder's weapon in any way could call and the permit holder be arrested on that charge. All of you on the job I believe can relate, as it either has happened or will happen when that sudden gust of wind strikes.
"...How many CAPS Lieutenants are there..."
Let me guess--we have 25 districts and each one has a CAPS Lieutenant. This question should be on the next merit sergeant's exam.
Maybe if "Downtown" would have kept the "bad boy" covered, he wouldn't have so many child deductions out of his check and would have been able to keep his house.
Anonymous said...
"...How many CAPS Lieutenants are there..."
Let me guess--we have 25 districts and each one has a CAPS Lieutenant. This question should be on the next merit sergeant's exam.
8/07/2008 07:18:00 AM
In theory that is correct but quite a few districts do not have a CAPS lieutenant.
You know what really happened, Chalkie took care of CAPS. Hes aiming for the Olympics next.
"8/08/2008 12:41:00 AM"
Let's hope Chalkie holds steady and shoots true.
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