Monday, September 22, 2008

Last Chance

  • 004 - 13 openings
  • 006 - closed
  • 008 - 5 openings
  • 010 - 10 openings
  • 015 - 10 openings
  • 024 - 12 openings
No word one when they are going to hire people so the FTO's actually have someone to teach.

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113 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,

Some good articles about "De-Policing" in Chicago.
Looks like the nation is reading about us and out hate for the J-Fed.

http://www.boston.com/news/
nation/articles/2008/09/20/
police_in_chicago_rebelling
_vs_chief/


http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=6403541

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/20/AR2008092002319.html?hpid=sec-nation

9/22/2008 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the Washington Post:

Chicago Crime Up As Police Clash With New Boss


"Officers are now looking out for themselves more than they had in the past, as far as taking chances," Donahue said. "They're concerned with ensuring they follow the letter of the law more closely because of concerns with discipline."

9/22/2008 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man I wish i could be an FTO... SO SAD!!!!!!

9/22/2008 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
From the Washington Post:

Chicago Crime Up As Police Clash With New Boss


"Officers are now looking out for themselves more than they had in the past, as far as taking chances," Donahue said. "They're concerned with ensuring they follow the letter of the law more closely because of concerns with discipline."

9/22/2008 12:18:00 AM

Another true statement! We have to look our for oueselves and we do, but we also back each other up 100%.

9/22/2008 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it really J-Fed? or the whole political climate in chicago i.e media, revrends, aldermen/mayor etc. thats keeping cops less proactive? This started way before J-Fed.

9/22/2008 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

13 fto openings in 004 aye? how about putting the 100+ officers 004 is short first, before bothering about the fto program. no police service on 433's beat. hasn't been for years. total bullshit. alderman pope, the owner of the green olive, in daley's pocket. he, nor mayor daley cares about the 10th ward or 433's police beat. all the good, hard working, tax payers should revault!!! this unexceptable occurance has to stop. we need and demand major police presence on 433's beat. we're all going to start taking action ourselves, without the police. heads are going to roll!!!!!!!!!!

9/22/2008 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why any police officer would want to be an FTO under these miserable circumstances is beyond me. Jody Weis stood up at his bullshit town meetings with Officers and said in plain English that he would revamp the FTO program to make it better and to attract Officers to it.

Supt. Weis instead has done the exact opposite. He has made an already bad program worse and ensured that many of the existing FTO's resign.

Congratulations Supt. Weis. another huge blunder on your part in an unbroken string of blunders since you rode into town.

I can't wait to see what you screw up next.

And to all you officers who were so hopeful and optimistic and wished this jerk the best, well, you are getting an education in Mayor Daley 101.

9/22/2008 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe 025 isn't a training district. It's got a little bit of everything and is busier than hell...

Must be due to the curse...

9/22/2008 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lube up people!!

9/22/2008 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Woke up this morning and saw in the Sarasota (Florida) Herald-Tribune (yep, I'm retired and loving it!) an article on J-Fed and "de-policing". His incompetence has gone national. My heart goes out to the troops. Hang it there. It can't be long now. Shortshanks won't take being embarassed nationally.

9/22/2008 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TRU needs FTO's!!!

9/22/2008 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every other Police Department treats it's FTOs like gods and gives them perks over and above other POs. For many departments FTO is a prerequisite for promotion to any rank.

Our department treats and historically treated the FTOs like shit and it is a disgrace.

Patrol Specialists and FTOs have been fucked with for well over 30 years since they invented the rank here and it shows in how well things are.

I loved being a Patrol Specialist and FTO and I hate how the FTOs as a group have been treated.

J-Fed and whoever came up with this latest round of BS should rot in hell................Up Yours.

9/22/2008 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
13 fto openings in 004 aye? how about putting the 100+ officers 004 is short first, before bothering about the fto program. no police service on 433's beat. hasn't been for years. total bullshit. alderman pope, the owner of the green olive, in daley's pocket. he, nor mayor daley cares about the 10th ward or 433's police beat. all the good, hard working, tax payers should revault!!! this unexceptable occurance has to stop. we need and demand major police presence on 433's beat. we're all going to start taking action ourselves, without the police. heads are going to roll!!!!!!!!!!

9/22/2008 01:26:00 AM

Soon you will be getting 2 great guys back who were brought to a unit and will return next week!

9/22/2008 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

s it really J-Fed? or the whole political climate in chicago i.e media, revrends, aldermen/mayor etc. thats keeping cops less proactive? This started way before J-Fed.

9/22/2008 01:15:00 AM

AMEN BROTHER!! BUT HE'S ON THE LIST NOW AND MORE THAN EVER AFTER THE DEDICATION AT THE POLICE MEMORIAL FOR RICK FRANCIS
FUCK THESE PEOPLE HE JUST SHOWED US HOW MUCH HE ISINT APART OF US
THE REV'S ,THE CITY COUNCIL,THE MAYOR AND J-FED IM DONE I'LL NEVER DO MORE THAN I HAVE TO AGAIN FOR THIS CITY WHO DOESNT CARE ABOUT US OR OUR FAMILIES

9/22/2008 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous George Carlin said...

Tell me how true this rings!

ZERO TOLERANCE

"I get weary of this zero tolerance bullshit. It’s annoying. To begin with, it’s a fascist concept; it’s what Hitler and Stalin practiced. It allows for no exceptions or compassion of any kind. All is black and white—no gradations. But even more important, it doesn’t solve anything. The use of such a slogan simply allows whichever company, school or municipality is using it to claim they’re doing something about a problem when, in fact, nothing is being done at all and the problem is being ignored. It’s a cosmetic non-solution designed to impress simpletons. Whenever you hear the phrase zero tolerance, remember, someone is bullshitting you."

-The Late Great George Carlin

Feel free to print and post around your districts!

9/22/2008 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are they ever going to promote more Detectives?? Were so short in the Areas, Chalkie is running wild.

9/22/2008 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Beatings will continue until compliance is had by all. That is the J-Fuck model. This gut never ceases to amaze me. He talks nore shit then a Chicago Alderman. His inability to accomplish anything is quickly becoming obvious. The national media catching up with the problem it could help push him out the door. But once again I have said it before, Daley will not and cannot fire him, that would be admitting he(Daley ) made a mistake, after all Daley came up with him from out of the blue. He will continue to let the media and aldermen and reverends beat the shit out of him and give him no support. In the meantime he wil be calling him to city hall to pay the proverbal piper and take a beating from him in private. He will have the city council vote on his competence( any doubt about that outcome) and they will recommend he be replaced immediately. The National search will take place again and this time very little interest will be shown by outsiders because of the disgraceful conditions within the Department, lack of leadership, morale in the toilet, no contract etc. The little shortshanks will be forced to pick from within the Department. Good Luck on that one, not a competent leader left on board who would want the headache. Meantime Nero( Daley) fiddels while Rome ( Chicago ) burns. What might really do him in quickly is any civil disturbances that most likely will happen post election it doesnt matter if Obama wins or Losses look out the shit will be in the fan. I doubt there are any exempts still left who were more then the rank of Sgt. during the last Bulls disturbances and before that the last Humbolt Pk. riots in the 70,s . I dont know if any planners are left to take the reins. I guarantee you the Deputy Superintendents are clueless. Good Luck to all you POs still working. Pre election stock your homes with food and supplies. Ensure you leave at least one weapon at home for you families protection. Tell them to stay in and be safe until it is over. It wil happen.

retired and happy

9/22/2008 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
TRU needs FTO's!!!

9/22/2008 09:22:00 AM

TRU needs FTO ernie from the fighting 008th dist!

9/22/2008 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greetings,

Off topic, but if your looking to take your kids out this week end.

There is a circus coming to Norwood Park School this weekend and in addition there will be a car show and several vendors.

If your intrested here is the link www.norwoodcircus.com

9/22/2008 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They should stop sending PPO's to the non-training districts. The last time around a hand full of PPO's went to 022? Why? This is a district that is busy on afternoons, but after that it's quiet and should be left for the older and most senior PO's on the job.

9/22/2008 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish they would announce an entrance exam already! Geez!

9/22/2008 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it really J-Fed? or the whole political climate in chicago i.e media, revrends, aldermen/mayor etc. thats keeping cops less proactive? This started way before J-Fed.

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True. The media is positioning this as if we are upset that the old guard got pushed out. WRONG!!! They were no different a bunch of clout driven assholes who cared only for themselves. I have over 25 years on you could have more fun back then but there was no more morale than there is now.The Captain ran the watch like his own fifedom back then and screwed you at will so in someways things are better in someways worse either way it's a job and were on the bottom of the pile.

9/22/2008 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if J-Turds contract is a guaranteed deal or is there a buyout option, or if fired is it void? I don't recall hearing the parameters of this contract. Any info?

9/22/2008 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is really a nonissue with no recruits now or anywhere in the near future.

We need bodies in the districts NOW!

9/22/2008 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO THE BOSS AT 35th.


You say you got our backs.

* We say you got us backed up against a wall !

You say we'll make the FTO program better !

* We say for who are you making the program better for the PPO's the Mayor the CITY not the FTO !

You say be aggresive.

* We keep telling you ( NO ) !!!!

You say don't drink.

*We say, as an adult we may want a cold one now and then so lay off !!

You say tracking devices in the car and in car cameras are for our safety.

*We say yeah right, first charge someone with making a false report based on the false allegations made on a CR and signed affidavit !

SO PLEASE DO US A FAVOR AND TURN THE LIGHTS OFF IN YOU'R OFFICE WHEN YOU GET FIRED FROM YOUR MILLION DOLLAR JOB ALSO TAKE THAT RAT FOP Donahue WITH YOU.

9/22/2008 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are two types of FTO's; first the ones who said fuck you J-FED and resigned and then there are the one's who will be sexually assaulted by J-FED and aunt B.

9/22/2008 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember boys and girls !!!!

We must either stand together or we fall apart and the bosses pick at our dead bones !!!

9/22/2008 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

QUESTION FOR THE DAY ???

WHAT IS A WHITE SHIRT ?

ANSWER -

A, SWORN ENEMY OF THE BLUE SHIRT.

B, A FLUNKIE FOR THE MAN.

C, A PERSON HOLDING A LEADERSHIP POSITION THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES TO STAND BY THEIR TROOPS RUNS FOR THE HILLS OR THROWS YOU UNDER THE BUS.

D, ALL OF THE ABOVE

TEST REULT

IF YOU CHOSE

A OR B YOUR A WORKING COPPER

C YOU MUST WORK FOR A REAL JAG-BAG

D GIVE IT UP YOUR REALLY ( SSC )

9/22/2008 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The F.T.O. is the FOUNDATION of the Patrol Divisin.It speaks volumes about why everything is collapsing,there are people with 5 yrs on the job who still have not been exposed to 1/4 of the paper.Nothing is worse than a 99 unit with someone who has 20 yrs on getting stuck with work when an F.T.O. and recruit are sitting in a restraunt or in the station.These unexpeienced morons then move right onto tact teams,and do even less.

9/22/2008 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2432 on the third watch needs an F.T.O. She is cluless. Send her all the help she needs.

9/22/2008 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe 025 isn't a training district. It's got a little bit of everything and is busier than hell...

Must be due to the curse...

9/22/2008 07:23:00 AM

Listen pal, I work in 025 and there is no curse here. It is just a myth. 025 is a great place to work.

9/22/2008 02:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:15 AM

I agree. Daley's CLOUT culture was always a ballbuster to morale. Along comes J-Fed and he had a chance to make the job half legit. Some had high expectations that an outsider could make a difference. He blew it big-time. Now it's worse then ever before.

J-Fed is a useless and clueless pussy. Worst of all, he's got no stugots.

9/22/2008 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would anyone want to go to a pussy Dist like 024?What could you possibly learn from such a slow place?It's busier in Hinsdale!

9/22/2008 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/22/2008 09:22:00 AM

Good one I just choked on my coffee.

9/22/2008 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Washington Post article is pretty good. At least Donohue has finally spoken up.

9/22/2008 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Donahue said increased violence in general may be linked to officers thinking that their hands are tied.

"An officer is on patrol and sees kids acting suspicious in nature, and there might be a crime pattern in the area," he said. "But the officers might not look into it like they would have in the past -- not because of fear of the individuals but because of fear that if false allegations are made, they won't be scrutinized as much as in the past."
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WILL be scrutinized, Mark...not won't!!!!!

9/22/2008 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Hate living in this city said...

Bumped into 433 the other day on afternoons...He said he couldnt talk cause they gave him a person w/a gun on 421's beat up on 77th street...WTF?? No wonder hegewisch is going to shit... What happened to only keeping 433 on his beat??

9/22/2008 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just looked at a pamphlet about the Proposed Call for of Illinois Constitutional Convention.

The warnings alone should alert anyone to the scams that would be availible to the whore polititians.

1) Could cost us (taxpayers) 78 million.

2) Influence of Special Interest.

3) Constitution could be delt
without a convention.

Let's see, I could promote this crap for 78 million and the whores of the city, county and state of Illinois could steal for them and their boyfriends. We could let the special interest assholes sneak in their bullshit laws that would destroy and keep destroying the taxpayers and keep giving everything to non taxpayers.

I don't think so, not anymore. Way to many handouts and freebees to the whores of this society.

9/22/2008 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is FOP#7 endorsing in the presidential election?

9/22/2008 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous 013th District Copper said...

Loved reading the articles about us "De-policing". Yes it is true. However, there are some things about our illustrious Superintendant that needs to be pointed out.

1. You can't blame him for us not having a contract. We didn't have one before he took over and we don't have one now. He isn't even part of the process. He can tell Mayor Shortshanks (love that name) it would help morale, but it would be on deaf ears.

2. You can't blame him for getting rid of ALL the top brass and replacing them with ill-trained patronage bosses. He didn't know any of them when he took over and just listened to Shortshanks and others to make the decisions. He really didn't know any better and now it's too late.

3. You can't blame him for wanting to get rid of corruption on this job. That NEEDED to go. This included the idiot officer who used her badge (and gun) to get free coffee from Starbucks, the ofc's who got kickbacks from the towing scandals in 025, etc.

4. You can't blame him for the camera's in the car. Yes the dept will try to hurt you if you are caught on tape doing something illegal or stupid. Don't do it. Use it to your advantage. Besides, they make good video's (see COPS!!!)

Now, YOU CAN BLAME OUR IDIOT SUPT FOR:

1. Killing any semblence of wanting to work for him for what he did to Cozzi. Yes Cozzi was wrong (although I probably would have done the same thing) but he did his punishment. Taking a second bite of the apple is akin to stabbing us all in the back.

2. His idea of the town hall meetings would have been great if he didn't use it to screw over people. Having Simpson dumped from the Academy for arguing something where he was clearly right showed us "in person" he wants to screw with us.

3. It has become obvious from Day #1 that his agenda has been to please the mayor/"reverands"/media by screwing with the police. He can talk all he wants about how he backs us up but it is clear he doesn't really do it. He couldn't care less about real crime to the public because the "reverands" aren't up in arms over it. There is no outcry from them when someone gets shot or killed unless the police are the ones shooting or killing those honor roll students!!!!

4. His STUPID idea to have felony review notified every time a P.O. gets arrested was rescinded shortly thereafter. His STUPID idea to have the W/C and Deputy Chief notified any time a P.O. is observed drinking on or off duty was also rescinded shortly thereafter. There is a whole slew of STUPID ideas he has come up with. Are any of these designed to reduce crime or kill morale?

5. Putting GPS in all the cars in clearly designed to find out which officer isn't working each and every minute of his/her shift and when to screw them when they are out of the district. If you can tell me one decent place to eat in 011, 015, 007, etc during midnights then I wouldn't have to leave the damn district.

6. Telling us we can only get M-4's if we pass the power test. Sure, it would be great if all officers used Steroids and Botox like J-Fraud does, but in reality we do not. We would all like to be in shape and most are, but to tell us that we are not allowed to defend ourselves properly because we can't pass the power test anymore is akin to saying he couldn't care less if we get killed by a piece of shit gangbanger. Then again, if we do defend ourselves we will probably get indicted.

Didn't want to make this TOO long but there are way too many reasons why our morale sucks and why we do minimal work. In any case, be safe, back each other up, and please learn to spell when you write you own posts!!!

9/22/2008 04:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The end of caps i 3,7,10,and 15? seems like some of the pilot districts are going to have trouble filling caps positions, why ? all the house mice are going to bid or more likely management their way to the 10 hour day. which means don't expect any jobs to get cleared or any back up from rapids in 3,7,10,15

9/22/2008 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe 025 isn't a training district. It's got a little bit of everything and is busier than hell...

Must be due to the curse...

9/22/2008 07:23:00 AM

Yeah, niether is 003, 005, 007, 009, 011 or 015 all of which are busier than 025 which is bigger than half these districts combined.

9/22/2008 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why any police officer would want to be an FTO under these miserable circumstances is beyond me. Jody Weis stood up at his bullshit town meetings with Officers and said in plain English that he would revamp the FTO program to make it better and to attract Officers to it.

Supt. Weis instead has done the exact opposite. He has made an already bad program worse and ensured that many of the existing FTO's resign.

Congratulations Supt. Weis. another huge blunder on your part in an unbroken string of blunders since you rode into town.

I can't wait to see what you screw up next.

And to all you officers who were so hopeful and optimistic and wished this jerk the best, well, you are getting an education in Mayor Daley 101.

9/22/2008 07:23:00 AM

The fact is half of these so called FTO's really shouldn't be FTO's to begin with and are in need of one themselves. Is it at all possible that maybe J-Fed is weeding out these people by doing this? After all if you really feel the calling to be an FTO, you're going to stay one and change districts. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise?

9/22/2008 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this has nothing to do with the post...but guess what Jason Austin is sueing the police dept.....another payday from the city.

9/22/2008 05:05:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

While Chicago always had a well-deserved international reputation for corruption and political scandals, I'm delighted that the McCain-Palin camp will now air nationwide TV commercials against "the Messiah".

The ads will link the Chicago Democratic Machine to its spawn--Obama. It cites his political ties to Rezko, Blagojevich, Emil Jones and Shortshank's brother, Bill Daley.

To the informed, this alone should provide overwhelming reasons to vote against this smooth-talking con artist.

9/22/2008 06:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 1:26 am: You really need to either proofread or learn how to spell. Your grammar is so bad it is even hard to follow the gist of your post. Your posting is embarassing even to those of us who only have a HS diploma.

I could only hope your Sergeant kicks back your reports to be clarified and cleaned up just in case you'll have to testify to them. A defense attorney will have a field day with you. He'll tear you up over spelling, syntax and grammar. It has been done many times and is very ugly to be seen done to someone.

9/22/2008 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

024 as a training dist?Give me a break,nothing but a bunch of whining bosses kids hidden away.Hey cowards come out West AND SEE WHAT REAL POLICE WORK IS.It's like a suburb in the city.

9/22/2008 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The dept. did that deliberately to get FTO's to quit. They want to get rid of the FTO program because it costs to much...I'm sorry that's wrong, the mayor needs the money for the Olympics.

9/22/2008 07:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's what happens when you get a bunch of lawyers to run everything. They fuck it all up.

9/22/2008 07:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FACT! 025 Dist. was not chosen as a training district because the people developing the new FTO Program were told no bosses kids were to be sent to 025 because it was too fucked up. The bosses in charge didn't want to subject the clouted PPOs to the stupidity which occurs there, call it the curse ,fake tan police,whatever this is the truth!!

9/22/2008 07:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This police department is destroyed. It may never recover from all the damage done.

9/22/2008 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are they ever going to promote more Detectives?? Were so short in the Areas, Chalkie is running wild.

9/22/2008 10:49:00 AM

GO TO WORK AND STOP HAVING YOUR SLIPS HELD!
TRY A BEAT COPS HOURS FOR A CHANGE!
CLEAR A CASE OCCASIONALLY!
STOP TAKING CREDIT FOR A BEAT COPS WORK!
PERSUADE AN ASA TO APPROVE CHARGES!
FUCK YOU!!!
WE NEED POLICE ON THE STREET!
NOT IN THE GOD DAMN OFFICE!

WE ARE TOTALLY SCREWED!
JUST LIKE THE ECONOMY, THE CPD WILL GET WORSE BEFORE ANYTHING GETS BETTER!!!

9/22/2008 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it really J-Fed? or the whole political climate in chicago i.e media, revrends, aldermen/mayor etc. thats keeping cops less proactive? This started way before J-Fed.
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It's the whole thing..This city is gone...

9/22/2008 07:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why would anyone want to go to a pussy Dist like 024?What could you possibly learn from such a slow place?It's busier in Hinsdale!

9/22/2008 03:16:00 PM



Where have you been? Chalkie makes a regular appearance up there. You can rip other districts, but the coppers in 024 on 3rd and 1st watch earn their keep.

9/22/2008 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know J-fed is not concerned about the national media.. He thinks all this coverage means that he is doing a good job of scaring us into submission...He thinks they see him as a "tough" administrator cleaning up a dirty department...

9/22/2008 07:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Area three should not have any training districts!

9/22/2008 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

totslly agree with posr re:J-Fed. he was the icing on the cake. to much corruption here w/mumbles and is band of thieves before he came along. where is Fitzgerald? geez Fitz we need you HERE !!!!

9/22/2008 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem is the FTO program is a disaster and most the exempts haven't a clue about training...Many FTO's may not like this but they should all be assigned to the training division. There needs to be enough of them that they spend 6 months at the academy, not just teaching but researching and updating the training material..This way what they teach is current and consistent..Then the remaining six months of their year they spend in a district...The numbers could be played with, it could be three groups rotating, working four in the academy and eight in the district...

Training is supposed to be very fluid and always developing..This is not the case..

Finally, many FTO's are not the best officers out there and they have little or no idea how to actually train someone..They need to revamp the exam which is so easy it's ridiculous. Then they also need to have real FTO sergeants and Lieutenants..These supervisors then need to ensure the FTO's are really doing their jobs and they also need to develop in-service training for the FTO's while they're in the field.

Jody, eliminate at least 1/3rd of the current exempt positions and used the money saved to attract the right officers to the job of FTO...It's a critical position..

9/22/2008 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

george carlin said...
Tell me how true this rings!

ZERO TOLERANCE

"I get weary of this zero tolerance bullshit. It’s annoying. To begin with, it’s a fascist concept; it’s what Hitler and Stalin practiced. It allows for no exceptions or compassion of any kind. All is black and white—no gradations. But even more important, it doesn’t solve anything. The use of such a slogan simply allows whichever company, school or municipality is using it to claim they’re doing something about a problem when, in fact, nothing is being done at all and the problem is being ignored. It’s a cosmetic non-solution designed to impress simpletons. Whenever you hear the phrase zero tolerance, remember, someone is bullshitting you."

-The Late Great George Carlin

Feel free to print and post around your districts!

9/22/2008 10:29:00 AM

Hilarious. And so true, from the tact guy who can't get enough DOPW pinches to the traffic gal who writes EVERYONE because she's either too lazy or too dumb to use discretion...

9/22/2008 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous regarding j-fed post said...

S.C.C., Shave did a nice article about Ron Magers and Roe Conn discussing the post about J-Fed during their radio show today:

Today on the Roe Conn Radio Show - WLS-AM Radio 890

Ron Magers is Chicago channel 7 (WLS-TV ABC) news anchor. He is a regular guest on the Roe Conn Radio Show, weekdays during the 3 o’clock hour.

On the show today, Roe Conn asked Ron Magers about the posting on SecondCityCop blog about an incident that was reported to have occurred at the Gold Star Families police memorial vigil. During this exchange both Ron Magers and Roe Conn admitted to being viewers of SCC. Ron Magers stated that the SCC blog was the most viewed police blog by department members.

Ron Magers related that he was the M.C. of the event at the request of former CPD Supt. Phil Cline. Magers described the room the event was being held as a long narrow rectangular room with Magers speaking from the center of the room. Magers stated that the event started with the bagpipes being played and then Ron Magers introduced the memorial video that contained information about the fallen and catastrophically injured police officers.

The video was being played on multiple video screens along the narrow room. Ron Magers stepped to the far end of the room as the video played. As Ron Magers reached the far end of the room, Ron stated that he observed J-Fed standing alone and watching the video on the video screen next to a table of attendees that were still joking and talking. To these attendees defense, Ron Magers said that he has seen these subjects at numerous past police memorial events and appear to be great supporters of the police. Ron further stated that because the room was so narrow and long that there was a good possibility that the subjects at this table had no idea that the video had started. Magers also said that it did not appear that J-Fed was actually with this table of attendees and that J-Fed only nodded at Magers as he past him by. Magers stated that he politely placed his finger up to his mouth and motioned to these attendees to SSHhhhhhhh! Magers stated that these attendees then did become quiet for the video.

Magers pointed out that because the room is so long and narrow and that J-Fed was standing next to this table to watch the video on the video screen, he can see how others attending this event could of thought that J-Fed was one of the participants at this party making the noise. Magers stated that the room that was used wasn’t the best room to use for an event such as a police memorial. Due to it being long and narrow, Magers said that it was hard for attendees to hear what was being said when he was standing in the middle of the room M.C.’ing the event and the video monitors were not easily seen.

Magers made it clear in this discussion that “he has no dog in this fight”. Magers stated that he has never met Supt. Jody Weis and has never even shook hands with him. Magers is a true gentleman and a strong supporter of police and firefighters. Magers is the type of person who if he has nothing good to say about a person will say nothing at all. Magers did slip in a few “gentle jabs” at J-Fed. Magers stated that he was M.C. of this event at the request of former Supt. Phil Cline. Magers stated that he would do any event Phil Cline asked.

Magers by slipping in the comment that he has never met or even shook hands with J-Fed was another “gentle jab”. One would figure that if you’re the CPD Superintendent of Police, you would of at least walked up to Ron Magers, who was donating his time and effort for a police event, to introduce yourself, thank him and shake his hand. Apparently based on the hints by Magers, this did not occur.

Magers slipped a final “gentle jab” in when he said that J-Fed most likely “let the babies out with the bath water” on some of the exempt members he forced out or demoted. Magers said that one of his best friends was dumped by J-Fed even though Magers thought this exempt member was a intelligent, hard working, knowledgeable experienced officer.

IN CONCLUSION:

As much as I hate to report it, based on Ron Magers version, J-Fed was not one of the people being “disrespectful” at the police memorial vigil.

But J-Fed did not come out of this unscathed.

Based on what Ron Magers said, J-Fed never even took the time to introduce himself to Ron Magers, never took the time to thank a Chicago celebrity who was donating his time to a police memorial event or even shook hands with Ron Magers.

As for SCC, they did the RIGHT THING. SCC had postings from viewers about a situation, SCC made a thread on the subject and included in that thread that the allegation about J-Fed was NOT VERIFIED and was asking others who did attend the event for their version of what had occurred.

And due to SCC posting this thread, we now found out that both Roe Conn and Ron Magers are viewers of SecondCityCop.

Kudos to SCC for their success and vast number of readers!

9/22/2008 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
The problem is the FTO program is a disaster and most the exempts haven't a clue about training...Many FTO's may not like this but they should all be assigned to the training division. There needs to be enough of them that they spend 6 months at the academy, not just teaching but researching and updating the training material..This way what they teach is current and consistent..Then the remaining six months of their year they spend in a district...The numbers could be played with, it could be three groups rotating, working four in the academy and eight in the district...

Training is supposed to be very fluid and always developing..This is not the case..

Finally, many FTO's are not the best officers out there and they have little or no idea how to actually train someone..They need to revamp the exam which is so easy it's ridiculous. Then they also need to have real FTO sergeants and Lieutenants..These supervisors then need to ensure the FTO's are really doing their jobs and they also need to develop in-service training for the FTO's while they're in the field.

Jody, eliminate at least 1/3rd of the current exempt positions and used the money saved to attract the right officers to the job of FTO...It's a critical position..

9/22/2008 08:10:00 PM



That is a great idea and makes perfect sense. Remember though that this is the Chicago Police Department you are talking about. Thus, it will never happen.

For it to happen even remotely as you describe would presume that the CPD leadership and the Mayor place a high priority on training.

They do not.

That is also to presume that they would commit the funds, time, and manpower needed to create a first class training program.

They would not.

One would have to look no further than the fraudulent Streaming Video Training Program. This bogus program supposedly trains officers in complex, dangerous and potentially high liability areas by watching a five or ten minute video on a small computer screen from across the roll call room with the sound possibly turned down on a computer that might be working or totally blank.

Take a look at your own training record and you would be amazed at all the training the Department claims you have received. Those training records are all fraudulent. The office staff marks every officer in the district as having watched that week's videos whether they were in attendance or not, on the medical or not and in some cases, alive or not.

The false notation of officers having been trained is in addition to the fact that the videos are mostly bullshit anyway.

So, nice idea but not in this lifetime. Want good training? Enlist in the US Marines.

9/22/2008 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its all a matter of suction.

9/22/2008 08:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Listen pal, I work in 025 and there is no curse here. It is just a myth. 025 is a great place to work.

9/22/2008 02:54:00 PM

Yeah, well I work there too, pal, and I can name OVER 20 coppers that have been fired from there since I've been on, many of them did some graybar time too. I could also name 5 that offed themselves from the same District since I've been on. I'd rather believe it's a curse and there isn't really that many fucked up people on this job in one place!

9/22/2008 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

025... a "great place to work"? It WILL be when Avila is gone!

9/22/2008 08:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the last straw for me. I stayed on last time they fucked with FTO's, but this time I'm DONE! The money is insignificant to me. They told me once that they could care less about the program and the second time I give up! Under today's police climate it's even more of a reason to call it quits. I just don't trust the leadership anymore especially J-Fed! The truth is, who cares where a PPO gets trained as long as it's by a good FTO and one that's happy. The fact is most of the learning comes after the FTO, just by experience and paying attention. They just killed the program forever. When will this job take the turn for the better? It's sad!

9/22/2008 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe 025 isn't a training district. It's got a little bit of everything and is busier than hell...

Must be due to the curse...

9/22/2008 07:23:00 AM

Yeah, niether is 003, 005, 007, 009, 011 or 015 all of which are busier than 025 which is bigger than half these districts combined.

9/22/2008 05:02:00 PM

so true, 025 can't compare with any of those south side districts

9/22/2008 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This Department was doing fine with the 5 basic bureaus. All the new ones are spoots invented to give morons a good spot.

BIS
BOS
BAS
BTS
BCS

Thats all we needed when I came on and nothing's changed except an Approx. 70% more exempt spots

9/22/2008 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are they ever going to promote more Detectives?? Were so short in the Areas, Chalkie is running wild.

9/22/2008 10:49:00 AM
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Please explain how having more detectives actually precludes homicides?

9/22/2008 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT...City came out with new overtime initiatives however they are only for Title Codes 9161 (PO) and 9171 (Sgts). If you are a detective, you cannot partake in this overtime....seems to be a violaton of the contract.....all detectives that wish to work this overtime should file a grievance.....don't let the dept and city get away with this nonsense.

9/22/2008 10:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are they ever going to promote more Detectives?? Were so short in the Areas, Chalkie is running wild.

9/22/2008 10:49:00 AM

GO TO WORK AND STOP HAVING YOUR SLIPS HELD!
TRY A BEAT COPS HOURS FOR A CHANGE!
CLEAR A CASE OCCASIONALLY!
STOP TAKING CREDIT FOR A BEAT COPS WORK!
PERSUADE AN ASA TO APPROVE CHARGES!
FUCK YOU!!!
WE NEED POLICE ON THE STREET!
NOT IN THE GOD DAMN OFFICE!

WE ARE TOTALLY SCREWED!
JUST LIKE THE ECONOMY, THE CPD WILL GET WORSE BEFORE ANYTHING GETS BETTER!!!

9/22/2008 07:47:00 PM

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa quit your crying there junior maybe give us a decent case to present to an ASA and not some BULLSHIT!, YA GOT NOTHING THERE KID!

9/22/2008 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic---To anyone who watches "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" Is it me or does the character "Cromartie" look just like J-Fed?

9/22/2008 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let's have the fto's do the power test, and a speech class...there is a southside district with an fto that does NOT speak in a way that ANY one knows what he's saying...then we won't get into the fitness level or lack thereof... you will have to take the power test to defend yourself with a rifle, but not to train new recruits...nonsense

9/22/2008 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response to:

Half? Only 10%. Being and FTO and talking to other FTOs the problem is more like the two year wonders re-training the recruits that we correctly trained.

Wake up. What the department is doing to the FTO progam is a test on what they could do to other units on this job.

We are all blue...lets keep it that way. United we stand divided we fall and what I am seeing lately is that we are falling hard.

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The fact is half of these so called FTO's really shouldn't be FTO's to begin with and are in need of one themselves. Is it at all possible that maybe J-Fed is weeding out these people by doing this? After all if you really feel the calling to be an FTO, you're going to stay one and change districts. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise?

9/22/2008 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous NO B HUSSEIN said...

Who is FOP#7 endorsing in the presidential election?

9/22/2008 04:06:00 PM

If they endorse B HUSSEIN you KNOW they are under shorshanks control!!! I know maybe 5 cops out of about 3500 ot so that I know who would back B HUSSEIN over the hero... should be interesting!

9/22/2008 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All we have to do is keep up what we are doing which is nothing proactive. The nation and world are getting the message via CNN and other publications. I pray for no olympics everyday, just for the simple reason that Daley may have a Stroke or a grabber over not getting what he wants.

Oh I almost forget FUCK OFF Jfed.

9/22/2008 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why would anyone want to go to a pussy Dist like 024?What could you possibly learn from such a slow place?It's busier in Hinsdale!

9/22/2008 03:16:00 PM



Where have you been? Chalkie makes a regular appearance up there. You can rip other districts, but the coppers in 024 on 3rd and 1st watch earn their keep.

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Oh yeah? You think so huh? Get out of there for a while and try working down south and you'll realize that you're getting practically a free ride up there.
And before you think i've never worked there, i have. I did some time in 024 and now am south. There is no comparison. It's a totally different beast down there.

9/22/2008 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are they ever going to promote more Detectives?? Were so short in the Areas, Chalkie is running wild.

9/22/2008 10:49:00 AM

GO TO WORK AND STOP HAVING YOUR SLIPS HELD!
TRY A BEAT COPS HOURS FOR A CHANGE!
CLEAR A CASE OCCASIONALLY!
STOP TAKING CREDIT FOR A BEAT COPS WORK!
PERSUADE AN ASA TO APPROVE CHARGES!
FUCK YOU!!!
WE NEED POLICE ON THE STREET!
NOT IN THE GOD DAMN OFFICE!

WE ARE TOTALLY SCREWED!
JUST LIKE THE ECONOMY, THE CPD WILL GET WORSE BEFORE ANYTHING GETS BETTER!!!

9/22/2008 07:47:00 PM


hey dufus, all those stupid case reports you guys do don't just magically disappear after you hand them in. Somebody somewhere has to follow up on those. That's why we need detectives. I know you guys are short out there, but we all are. And by actually promoting people (off the list) boosts morale too. It gives people something to strive for and to work hard for. Not many of us want to just work a beat car our whole careers. The right way to do it is to constantly (couple times a year) have det and sgt classes going and hire new recruits to fill those spots and the retirees. Seems to easy doesn't it?

9/22/2008 11:05:00 PM  
Blogger cpd4176 said...

024 as a training district?!?! Am I missing something here?
It will be nice to have some extra bodies in 006, although annoying to have alot of PPO's as well.

Also, does this mean they will be switching the sheets up?!

9/22/2008 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why would anyone want to go to a pussy Dist like 024?What could you possibly learn from such a slow place?It's busier in Hinsdale!

9/22/2008 03:16:00 PM

You my friend are very soft! I don't work in 024, but to hear such a comment from a P.O. is sad. You're an embarassment to all of us and it's a shame that you got hired. To refer to 024 as a "pussy district" shows how stupid you are. Your parents really raised a dumb child and I'm sure you still live in their basement. Dummies like you end up at call back. Good Luck tuff guy!

9/22/2008 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To "FACT! 025 Dist. was not chosen as a training district because the people developing the new FTO Program were told no bosses kids were to be sent to 025 because it was too fucked up. The bosses in charge didn't want to subject the clouted PPOs to the stupidity which occurs there, call it the curse ,fake tan police,whatever this is the truth!!"

Wrong Asshole. This was to get a lot of FTO's to quit so they don't have to pay them extra.

9/22/2008 11:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Where have you been? Chalkie makes a regular appearance up there. You can rip other districts, but the coppers in 024 on 3rd and 1st watch earn their keep."

----LOL!! Oh my god you are too much, I'm just going to assume you're being sarcastic. How many homicides this year in 024??? I work in 023 and it is by all means one of slower districts and we are much busier than 024.

9/22/2008 11:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The dept. did that deliberately to get FTO's to quit. They want to get rid of the FTO program because it costs to much...I'm sorry that's wrong, the mayor needs the money for the Olympics.

___________________________________

Exactly, they are decreasing the size of the department and privatizing everything. Watch for 1/3 of the commander spots to be civilian. This way Shakman doesn't apply.

9/22/2008 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous brandon medow said...

off topic

I just saw the photos of Jennifer Hall.

Jennifer is the lady who was beaten and robbed by two homeless jag bags near Wabash & Roosevelt last month, while out celebrating her birthday.

She had to undergo brain surgery and lost 14 teeth.

She has two lines of stithces across her scalp where her skull was opened and operated on

The news says that she has tremendous medical bills which doesnt surprise me

I was thinking that maybe my brothers and sisters in law enforcement would like to host a fund raiser for her to help with her bills

Id be willing to help get and keep the ball rolling

Brandon Medow
CPD retired

Feel free to email your thoughts
brandonlee023@gmail.com

9/22/2008 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hay I just woke up !!

Man what a nightmare. Their was this evil man with a plastic face who had a evil step sister who was real short. They evil twins worked for a sinister king who took the people's food and told them to make more for the big festival he wanted to have. There were several men and women wearing a blue uniform they must have been the good guys/gals, but they were defeated because a traitor named ( DONAHUE ) betrayed them.

Glad I woke up and on my way to work !!

9/23/2008 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic

I just saw the photos of Jennifer Hall.

Jennifer is the lady who was beaten and robbed by two homeless jag bags near Wabash & Roosevelt last month, while out celebrating her birthday.

I was thinking that maybe my brothers and sisters in law enforcement would like to host a fund raiser for her to help with her bills
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Before you go on . . . realize she was arrested twice for shoplifting in the last year and her "fiance" was pinched for domestic battery (against her)

ONCE AGAIN.. the whole story about what really happened was not related to the media.

9/23/2008 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 1:26 am: You really need to either proofread or learn how to spell. Your grammar is so bad it is even hard to follow the gist of your post. Your posting is embarassing even to those of us who only have a HS diploma.

I could only hope your Sergeant kicks back your reports to be clarified and cleaned up just in case you'll have to testify to them. A defense attorney will have a field day with you. He'll tear you up over spelling, syntax and grammar. It has been done many times and is very ugly to be seen done to someone.


They probably are a sergeant...a meritorious one at that.

9/23/2008 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In most places, people who take opportunities to make their lives easier and more enjoyable would be called smart, here they are ridiculed as "pussies".
I guess misery loves company, and resents those that are willing to move on.
Brotherhood?? Not on this department.

9/23/2008 03:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You my friend are very soft! I don't work in 024, but to hear such a comment from a P.O. is sad. You're an embarassment to all of us and it's a shame that you got hired. To refer to 024 as a "pussy district" shows how stupid you are. Your parents really raised a dumb child and I'm sure you still live in their basement. Dummies like you end up at call back. Good Luck tuff guy!

9/22/2008 11:16:00 PM

Hey don't get mad at him...I bet he works in 007..or 011...or 015.He is fighting the good fight out there in the trenches...chasing the dope and the guns.He is protecting the ghetto unlike us "pussies" who work in "slow" districts.He should be feared... and is... by all in the "hood".In reality he has 2-5 yrs on,grew up in the burbs..and was never really in fight (at least not one on one).He came on the job started, working out, and got himself some brand new tough looking tattoo's.He drinks and tells war stories, thinking that everyone should bow down cause he is a tough ghetto cop.He is basically what we are stuck with now..a fake tough guy,who inside is afraid and thinks little of himself and without this job he is a scared little man.

9/23/2008 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Where have you been? Chalkie makes a regular appearance up there. You can rip other districts, but the coppers in 024 on 3rd and 1st watch earn their keep."

----LOL!! Oh my god you are too much, I'm just going to assume you're being sarcastic. How many homicides this year in 024??? I work in 023 and it is by all means one of slower districts and we are much busier than 024.

9/22/2008 11:41:00 PM
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Remember the whole Area 3 and its districts are SOFT ....like duh we discussed this already .....next topic!

9/23/2008 04:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was thinking that maybe my brothers and sisters in law enforcement would like to host a fund raiser for her to help with her bills

Are you kidding me? We don't even support most of our own with a benefit to pay medical bills. Let the yuppies hold a benefit for her. She does live downtown and probably has a big mortgage. Perhaps she should sell and buy something she can afford?

I can't even believe you suggested this.

9/23/2008 04:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
I was thinking that maybe my brothers and sisters in law enforcement would like to host a fund raiser for her to help with her bills

Are you kidding me? We don't even support most of our own with a benefit to pay medical bills. Let the yuppies hold a benefit for her. She does live downtown and probably has a big mortgage. Perhaps she should sell and buy something she can afford?

I can't even believe you suggested this.

9/23/2008 04:22:00 AM

Right, because cops should only be charitable towards their own. A benefit for a crime victim might be a stretch, but your idiotic statement about her mortgage indicates that you are sniveling, narrow-minded, uneducated and jealous. How do you like those assumptions, jerk?

9/23/2008 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys Please! any ideas about a southside or westside fast moving district where a hardworking rip roaring duo from the northside can go and hit the street? My partner and I got split up by the watch commander after we made a solid pinch of a guy on a federal warrant. We showed the agent around and introduced her to a sgt in the area. Now guys are hating on us due to that pinch and that fact we don't put anybody on our paper. These old guys wanna wear the name but dont wanna play the game. In our district we can't get our own car and we always rotating on different cars. We want to work somewhere we can get exposure and develop a solid rep that will help us get assigned to SWAT or HIDTA, or the FBI JTTF. Between us we have gotten 8 UUWs this year and 15Part One arrests since January and we are not on tact or an incident car. I bet we easily lead the watch in movers/parkers/and curfews. I am stuck on the late wagon, and my partner is now stuck in the lockup and alternates on an early wagon. Its a shame on our watch the lazy, slow, old guys have their own cars. The last couple of nights I have neither held the radio or the keys to the truck. And I don't wanna eat at another damn plain food serving diner again listening to coppers talk about the old days. I dont wanna learn trivia like the Midnight Deputies car used to be called the Blue Goose or that HBT was better than SWAT. These guys even talk about how IAD used to have a unit called C-5. This is all prehistoric bullshit. Its like knowing how to be a blacksmith. Useless Useless Useless. I don't want supper to be meatloaf, pizza, or potatoes again. I hope the old timer I have been stuck knows how to read a blog. Maybe he will feel my pain. My partner and I used to eat Vegan, Ethiopian, Thai, West Indian, Indian you name it. Do 12 or 21 have dining diversity but action? Can we get our own car there?

Unhappy up North Seamus 2nd generation copper in distress.

PS My partner and I are trying to organize a group of young coppers who want to take the SigSaur class on handling active shooters. We are going to post the info and our contact POCs soon.

9/23/2008 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP 7 does not endore anyone for president. Unit reps were to poll there member and submit the results to Lodge 7.

The National Loge make the endoresment to the Presidential Election.

They endorsed MC CAIN by the way. It your if you were not polled your unit rep did not do his job. If you did not respond you did not do your job.

At the next FOP meeting ask our Lodge reps how they voted at the state level. See what our political action committee did.

I haven't reschearched it but I bet it would be interesting.

9/23/2008 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

024 is a pretty nice place to work but is not a busy district. I did my first 5 years up there, then moved west, then moved south where I was totally unprepared. The cops that I looked up to in 024, the ones that I thought were supercops, ended up looking like the mickey mouse police compared to some of the bad ass, fearless, mother fuckers that I've worked with on the south and west sides. The worst section in 024, the "jungle" is like disneyland compared to the south and west sides. The coppers on 3rd watch really think that they are ghetto rangers, but in reality they dont have a clue. Don't get me wrong - 024 is a great place to work after you have put your time in some fast districts, but it is no place to learn how to be the police.

9/23/2008 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

----LOL!! Oh my god you are too much, I'm just going to assume you're being sarcastic. How many homicides this year in 024??? I work in 023 and it is by all means one of slower districts and we are much busier than 024.

9/22/2008 11:41:00 PM

hEY IF 024 IS SO SLOW AND SUCH A GREAT PLACE TO WORK, WHY DON'T YOU MOVE THERE? SEND YOUR CHILDREN TO SULLIVAN HIGH SCHOOL. 024 IS A SHITHOLE ALONG WITH THE REST OF THIS CITY.

9/23/2008 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

response ****

Good Luck tuff guy!

9/22/2008 11:16:00 PM

I work in 023 and it is by all means one of slower districts and we are much busier than 024.

9/22/2008 11:41:00 PM

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A FTO in 015

I apologies for any mention that your district is either ( soft or pussy )!

I do believe this ; we all work in chicago and no-mater what district no-mater what watch we are all doing the same paper and run the same risks on every call ! The real difference is volume ! I had a talk with a sgt who I respect and it was made clear that I am more cautious working in 015 than I would normally would be if I worked in say 023 and that would be my own fault because I know better !
We should all realize that we are all targets and should act accordingly on all street stops and job assignments.

If I come cross anyone of you officers in 024 or 020,023 or any so called soft districts I'll be always be happy to shake your hand and call you my brother/sister in blue because thats what we really are and for us to look down on another officer is not what I was taught either by my past partners ( rip- MIKE S. ) or my fto who I can never thank enough for showing me how to be the police ( BIG MIKE R. )

9/23/2008 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

11:16 PM, 3:17 and 3:21 AM:

While I'm not going to get into a pissing contest over street assignments in fast districts, show proper respect.

If you've paid your dues in districts like most of Area 2, 007, 010, 011, 015 or 025, fine. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Police officers can be murdered anywhere, even in rural areas. However, cops who have worked in violent shitholes are a breed apart from chronic house mice and those always assigned to less bloody districts.

It is my firm conviction that EVERYONE should pay their dues during their careers. Yet, you have contempible exempts who have spent their entire careers as pussies. My dog Bailey Boy was involved in more felony arrests than most exempts.

Why don't they have a standardized ribbon award for both "on view" and other Part I felony arrest incidents with clusters awarded in multiples of 100. Hey, if you can earn one in certain North and Northwest Side districts, more power to you.

Why do they continue to have "duty availability" pay for all sworn personnel when it was originally earmarked for officers working the streets on third and first watches? Shift differential would also encourage our veteran officers to work the most hazardous watches instead of steady days.

All of this bullshit tracks back to the CLOUT MONSTER.

HAVE YOU PAID YOUR DUES?

9/23/2008 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
"Where have you been? Chalkie makes a regular appearance up there. You can rip other districts, but the coppers in 024 on 3rd and 1st watch earn their keep."

----LOL!! Oh my god you are too much, I'm just going to assume you're being sarcastic. How many homicides this year in 024??? I work in 023 and it is by all means one of slower districts and we are much busier than 024.

9/22/2008 11:41:00 PM
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Remember the whole Area 3 and its districts are SOFT ....like duh we discussed this already .....next topic!

9/23/2008 04:07:00 AM

023 wow! really busy with all the dogasses at Starbucks. i remember a shooting in Uptown and chalkie had just been cruisin around checking out the talent. Every one in the district was running with their heads cut-off. OMG what are we going to do? From that day on I missed the officers in the fast districts.

9/23/2008 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would never refer to 024 as a "pussy" district.

A sissy district, perhaps!

9/23/2008 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
Are they ever going to promote more Detectives?? Were so short in the Areas, Chalkie is running wild.

9/22/2008 10:49:00 AM
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Please explain how having more detectives actually precludes homicides?

9/22/2008 10:02:00 PM
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It doesn't. More detectives are needed to work the increasing number of homicides and to turn as many as possible into accidents or suicides.

9/23/2008 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aw shut the hell up, half the FTOs dont know what the Hell they are doing anyway!!! All they do is sit on their lazy asses and boss the new kids on the block around,why they earn pocket change. So is short Fuck you and go work for a security co.

9/23/2008 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim Mullen worked in 024. If you have a problem with Area Three police, tell it to him

9/23/2008 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is my firm conviction that EVERYONE should pay their dues during their careers.


----- Did Jim Mullen pay enough dues for you?

9/23/2008 09:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"9/23/2008 10:45:00 AM"


Ah, yuppies with a badge.

9/23/2008 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Guys Please! any ideas about a southside or westside fast moving district where a hardworking rip roaring duo from the northside can go and hit the street?"

Seamus...2nd generation P.O.? I'm sure your father would puke if he knew of the self-promoting bullshit you babble about here. Being the "real police" has nothing to do with part 1 arrests, guns recovered (at least it's what I assume you meant by UUW arrests)or movers/parkers/curfews. Having a little common sense, being polite, quiet and respectful and using your LISTENING SKILLS is way more important than bragging about some bullshit pinch you made or ticket you wrote.

Picturing you in the restaurant, rolling your eyes while honest-to-god hero cops talk about the "old days" while all you can think of is how YOU'RE the real deal and how you shouldn't have to suffer the indignation to put up with it all makes me laugh. That's because that's what you are.....a joke.

"No, really....me and Chad (or Doug or Zippy or whatever) have done it all....parkers, curfews and arrests - we're ready for the FBI task force...at the LEAST."

Try to actually hear what these old-timers are trying to tell you. I could give a high school kid a radio and he could go out and chase calls and make arrests. Being the Real Police is less WHERE you work as HOW you work. Knowing your beat/sector/district, knowing who the bad guys are (and even more the good folks are, too) and have them know you, too is paramount.
Try not to be so fucking arrogant at work. People are supposed to say you're the PO-LEESE, not You. It's like the guy bragging about having a big dick who's actually hung like a gerbil. Maybe, just maybe, someone will appreciate your humility, maturity and level-headedness and, who knows? They might even ask You to on gangs or tact....instead of you believing you should be elevated in honorarium.

Best advice I can give: Shut up and grow up! Listen and learn.

9/24/2008 03:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To "FACT! 025 Dist. was not chosen as a training district because the people developing the new FTO Program were told no bosses kids were to be sent to 025 because it was too fucked up. The bosses in charge didn't want to subject the clouted PPOs to the stupidity which occurs there, call it the curse ,fake tan police,whatever this is the truth!!"
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Wrong Asshole. This was to get a lot of FTO's to quit so they don't have to pay them extra.

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The 1st guy was right.. If they wanted to get rid of all the FTO's, send them to 025 would be the ideal way. They will suffer the curse and beg to turn in their stars and stripes.

9/24/2008 05:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Listen pal, I work in 025 and there is no curse here. It is just a myth. 025 is a great place to work.

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Johnny Cakes is that you?
Probably not.

Whoever is the TOOL that wrote that must be some 2 year blunder working an 06 car or a team.

025 IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO WORK! The bosses don't back you and other POs don't either!

POs in that dist. will stab you in the balls with a rusty jagged knife while looking you in da eye

Look at S.P.'s partner, think for a second he gives a rat's ass that his own partner was hung out to dry? NO! He's laughing it up with the other useless strokes on that POS group of idoits called a GANG TEAM!

Overheard one of the newer guys on team saying that S.P.'s partner is going DOWN and how dirty this guy really is!

9/24/2008 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous "ain't no pity in donkey city" said...

The only way to exorcise the demons that haunt 025 is to roast Curtin on a spit with an apple in his mouth.

I've got dibs on both ears and that big red schnozz.

9/24/2008 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best advice I can give: Shut up and grow up! Listen and learn.

9/24/2008 03:30:00 AM

Do you really think SEAMUS IS REAL? If you can't see that bullshit than you can't be helped.

9/24/2008 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just saw the photos of Jennifer Hall.

Jennifer is the lady who was beaten and robbed by two homeless jag bags near Wabash & Roosevelt last month, while out celebrating her birthday.

I was thinking that maybe my brothers and sisters in law enforcement would like to host a fund raiser for her to help with her bills


i'd rather donate to those that truley need it...like children of cancer and other medical problems...she could give a rat's ass about u

9/24/2008 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

re 9/24/2008 03:30:00 AM


These posts are one of three things:


1. Satiric sarcasm, ala the 'Missy' and 'Amber' posts, intended to amuse, entertain and accentuate the absurd.


2. Non-police trolls getting their rocks off on any whose response takes them seriously.


3. Hard hitting journalistic reporting, disguised as an idiot with a badge.

9/24/2008 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey FTO's don't come to 024..they will treat you like shit there. There is a certain Sgt. formally from the RAT SQUAD that wrote a 41 year footman up for coming in 10 minutes early. Now I heard they made him go back on a car. Meanwhile this Sgt. was golfing and riding his bike when he was on the Medical after he got into a car crash..What a Jag off.

9/26/2008 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All the PPO's that just came out should be re-assigned to the fast getto districts with the most crime. Let them learn the job, then bid out after probation. No exceptions!

9/26/2008 05:22:00 PM  

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