Monday, November 24, 2008

Rumors of Change

So, what are the latest rumors?
  • numerous demotions and forced retirements of gold stars;
  • a possible redistricting;
  • combining or eliminating at least two "major" units;
There's more somewhere and the first portion is supposed to start after Thanksgiving. Where does the axe fall first?

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61 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

the training academy will have major changes for the better. a new boss for a new year.

11/24/2008 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you hear
they are going to give all the gang guys in 025 balls and dirt
& teach them to grow a pair


maybe I'll show mine
as what a real pair looks like
just ignore the 3rd one its a lucky charm the ladies love it

11/24/2008 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well TRU should be first up,...be lucky to get 4 hrs of street time per tour from them.
wounder what their arrest rates are? uuw, Agg batt etc.
We need bodies in beat cars answering calls. Then mabey time due wouldnt be so impossible to get.
Good bye TRU!

11/24/2008 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ive always tried to change for my
PO x-wives; it only cost me more of my wealth. I just wish that their being on the job would be considered as part of the scam.....

11/24/2008 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Besides Districts/units being Shrunk or Redrawn, J-Feds Head will also be Shrunk!.

11/24/2008 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of upcoming demotions... I was at a beat meeting over a year ago where the TRU commander showed up. He was then the commander of 005. At the time 005 took a dip in homicides like from Sep - Dec 06 to Sep - Dec 07 and he took all the credit saying he brought in this great Lt, Wade Ingram, from O'hare airport and he and the Lt were the reason for the reduction in crime. What a stroke!
These are 2 guys who couldn't find a whore in a whorehouse. DUMB!

11/24/2008 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You want rumors we got rumors!
REGARDING the NEW and IMPROVED GANG CRIMES UNIT!

1. At least 40 current gang officers and a handful (5 or so) Sgt.'s will bail after a period or so or before it starts upon being involved/assigned to the NEW Area GANG thing!

2. The Department is ready for any corruption that will follow from the origination of this new gang unit because THEY ARE NOW SMARTER and know how to handle it better than the old regime.

-In other words NO BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT when you screw up.
-Immediate dumps on rumors and CR's
-MORE MICROMANAGING
-Numbers?
-Splitting teams and partners once you get there? (you actually think they will leave all the teams in tact? not when they don't trust you nor care about you and they can micromanage you!)

3.Days off in the summer or during weekends.........best of luck COWBOYS!

4. You officers will now be the Departments new guinea pigs under Jody's microscope along with MSF and OCD/Intelligence whatever and TRU ....no stress though now go get numbers!

5. Will the cars have cameras RUMOR has it they will and good luck working DUDE with those things on!

6. Court/Overtime rumor has it they will monitor that with a fine tooth comb as to your comings and goings at 26th st and late pinches etc. to see if you are legit!

7. Rumor has it all Gang Officers from the SO CALLED "soft districts" (name them) will spend ALL of their time in their soft districts as they wished and desired and wanted!

8. Rumor has it Jody and Co. will let you GO BACK TO BEING THE REAL POLICE to get the shitheads off the street and address the gang/drug problem of Chicago!

9. Rumor has it all CR's unknown unnamed will NOT be as serious as it has been recently so you can focus on working the streets without any worries!

10. Rumor has it Jody will not turn it on you like he did with Cozzi because he already proved his point by hanging one copper and he doesn't need to do that anymore because he is one of us now!!

11. Rumor has it that receiving paper cuts, carpel tunnel in the hand, strained eyes from using the computer, falling out of the desk chair, overeating at lunch while working inside are the best qualifications thus being considered to qualify you as a safe bet for a newly appointed Sgt. or LT., rather than someone who has any background in locking up anyone!

I got a million of em.....

11/24/2008 04:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that I will retire in less than 5 years not being demoted or bounced off my beat car and still not caring what 35th Street does.

11/24/2008 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"8. Rumor has it Jody and Co. will let you GO BACK TO BEING THE REAL POLICE to get the shitheads off the street and address the gang/drug problem of Chicago!"

WTF DOES THAT MEAN??

11/24/2008 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHAT ABOUT OUR CONTRACT!!!! EVERYTHING ELSE IS BULLSHIT!!! NO CONTRACT NO NUMBER! J-FED IS MAKING 300K A YEAR AND HAS TO JUSTIFY HIS EXISTANCE. SCREW IT....IF HE CANT BRING THE HOMICIDE RATE DOWN, THEN JUST COMPLETELY SCREW UP THE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE YOUR EARNING UR MONEY. COPS DONT TRUST YOU J-FED THEY DONT LIKE YOU! AND WITH THE NO CONTRACT....WELL THATS WHY WE DONT GET OUT OF OUR CAR MOST O THE DAY!

11/24/2008 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why would anyone go to this gang unit? Please explain?
a. don't want to be on midnights
b. enjoy making JPUD look good
c. like wearing blue jeans instead of a uniform

11/24/2008 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a pretty solid rumor for you

The Captains are have either signed off, or are close to signing off, on the Inspector position becoming a Captain's job. Not known how they will fill those spots though.

This means that big bird is coming to a district near you!

11/24/2008 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats funny you should say that about Lt. Wade Ingram because he couldn't find a plane when he was at O'Hare airport!

11/24/2008 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bye Bye Matt T Thanks for the swan song speech about your fellow vets at the military deployment award ceremony. BTW- You never deployed so how are you a Veteran????? Semper Fi

11/24/2008 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is to 11/24/2008 12:11:00 AM, are you saying Tobias is out? Why is that?

11/24/2008 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry they won't go after the workers!

11/24/2008 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that the Dep Chfs and Dist Cmdrs did not even know about this plan!

11/24/2008 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blue and brown are definately OUT as dining room tablecovers this holiday season and gold and black are reconciling! Take it to the bank sweetums.

11/24/2008 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gene Roy, Gene Roy, Gene Roy. Please dump this idiot. And a fitting moment would be just before Thanksgiving, so Gene the Clown doesn't taint the new facility by being its first Commander. With a new station, hopefully the powers at the hall will use a new broom to sweep clean and leave us with a new boss and a new fresh start. Santa, please gives us an early Christmas present and get shortshanks to launch Gene the Clown! Don't bother with J-FED the middleman because he would just have to check with shortshanks for permission. shortshanks runs the CPD, not J-FED.

11/24/2008 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So if some of these guys hang up their jeans and come back to the watch, will they now actually say 'hi' instead of gracing us with the steely 'im too cool for you cause I wear jeans at work' subtle nod?

11/24/2008 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MSF and TRU Are both worthless. Get rid of them both.

11/24/2008 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ground Hog's Day will be the City's 13th recognized paid holiday.

11/24/2008 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aiports will have new management (Thank God), they will be run to save cash O'hare will have a Lt in charge Midway will have a Sgt as a Lt was never needed, just a clout spot come and go as you please free car. Finally this chnage will come even though hero leo opposes it! "Finally sense has come from the big boss WOOOOOOOOOOO!"

11/24/2008 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

"....Just ignore the 3rd one it's a lucky charm the ladies love it...."

Not just the ladies.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

11/24/2008 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the heros who want to go around showing your balls please transfer to 023 where that would be appreciated and you will make new friends.

Otherwise keep them in your pants.

11/24/2008 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say goodbye to the Street Deputy position.

11/24/2008 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Box Chevy Phantom" says...

in the vein of change but slightly ot...

what i really want for christmas?

someone to do an involutary admission on the stuttering dwarf.

this fucker is so bat-shit crazy/drunk with power/divorced from reality/deluded that it strains credulity that he is even allowed to mix & mingle let alone be ceo of the 3rd largest city in the country and empowered with access to 6 billion dollars? please! he should have been sterilized and locked in a padded closet years ago as he always struck me as the "special child" of the daley bunch. yup, he's "king of the world" now... in another time and era he would be the village idiot who strips naked,covers himself in goose grease & runs around taking a shit down everyone's chimney on christmas morning because mommy said he was "special"...

11/24/2008 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I got a million of em.....

11/24/2008 04:03:00 AM"


Don't brag.

Consider the ample source of your material.

This shit writes itself.

11/24/2008 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry they won't go after the workers!
-----------------------------------

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

I'll have what he's smoking!

11/24/2008 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you hear
they are going to give all the gang guys in 025 balls and dirt
& teach them to grow a pair


maybe I'll show mine
as what a real pair looks like
just ignore the 3rd one its a lucky charm the ladies love it

What the hell are you talking about??? and whats wrong with 025 gangs?

11/24/2008 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JPUD, I can't wait to start working sooo hard for you in your new gang enforcement unit. I just heard I am being reassigned to the Area from (a) my Sgt, (b) my Lt (c) the WGN news.

You guessed it the answer is (c). This department is so fucked up. Give me a beat car please, there is no way I am working in any Mobile Strike Jody Weis gang suppression team.

I used to like going out there and actually working in the district I bid to and am actually assigned to but my volunteer days are over. Guess its time to go back to answering jobs and writing paper.

Go clean up the City's gang problem without me you two-year wonders.

11/24/2008 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well TRU should be first up,...be lucky to get 4 hrs of street time per tour from them.
wounder what their arrest rates are? uuw, Agg batt etc.
We need bodies in beat cars answering calls. Then mabey time due wouldnt be so impossible to get.
Good bye TRU!

11/24/2008 12:44:00 AM

You must be as dumb as mo'nik. Do you really think if tru gets dump they will be going to areas one, two or three? Buwaaahhhaaa! I got news for you. It ain't going to happen. If you are too dumb to read in between the lines then you are too stupid. Go ahead super cop go save the gehtto and make it safe. I'll be going to any district on midnights woof woof.

11/24/2008 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This is to 11/24/2008 12:11:00 AM, are you saying Tobias is out? Why is that?

11/24/2008 09:06:00 AM


You must be the same tool that always defends MT on this blog. My guess is that he got you your spot in the academy and are always kissing his ass. Having said that...right back to you..who the fu<|< cares if someone is hoping for a change of leadership in the academy. Why do you take all the comments against MT personal? and do me a favor, GFY!

11/24/2008 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"8. Rumor has it Jody and Co. will let you GO BACK TO BEING THE REAL POLICE to get the shitheads off the street and address the gang/drug problem of Chicago!"

WTF DOES THAT MEAN??

11/24/2008 07:23:00 AM

*****************

It means that most likely YOU are not a Chicago police officer or an officer at all for that matter.

11/24/2008 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not being homophobic, I used to wait in anticipation of some of the witty commentary that the Kissing Bandit used to add to the blog. It is only recently that his comments have taken on a much more darker and sinister tone. What gives?

11/24/2008 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy Out with the Old and In with the New Batman!!!

So much change it seems like we are in the phase of change just for the sake of change. Nice to know that 2008 was the Chinese Year of the Earth Rat (7 February 2008 – 25 January 2009)

If you want to know more about the Chinese Rat year read below:

Rats:

Behind the smiles and charm, rats can be terribly obstinate and controlling, insisting on having things their way no matter what the cost. These people tend to have immense control of their emotions, which they may use as a tool to manipulate and exploit others, both emotionally and mentally. Rats are masters of mind games and can be very dangerous, calculative and downright cruel if the need arises. Quick-tempered and aggressive, they will not think twice about exacting revenge on those that hurt them in any way. Rats need to learn to relax sometimes, as they can be quite obsessed with detail, intolerant and strict, demanding order, obedience, and perfection.

A valuable lesson for Rats is to learn to consider others before themselves, at least sometimes, and to avoid forcing their ideas onto others. Rats are fair in their dealings and expect the same from others in return, and can be deeply affronted if they feel they have been deceived or that their trust has been abused. Sometimes they set their targets too high, whether in relation to their friends or in their career. But as the years pass, they will become more idealistic and tolerant. If they can develop their sense of self and realize it leaves room for others in their life as well, Rats can find true happiness.

According to tradition, Rats often carry heavy karma and at some point in life may face an identity crisis or some kind of feeling of guilt. Rats are said to often have to work very long and hard for everything they may earn or have in life. However, a Rat born during the day is said to have things a bit easier than those who are born at night. Traditionally, Rats born during the night may face extreme hardships and suffering throughout life. Rats in general should guard themselves against hedonism and nostalgia, as it may lead to self-destruction. Gambling, alcohol and drugs tend to be great temptations to Rat natives.

Wondering what the OX has for us next year?

11/24/2008 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that Daley is really a talking Platapuss.

11/24/2008 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why dump Tobais? The recruits have much better training than ever. Sure the academy has it's B.S. like any other district, however Tobias has created a great program.

11/24/2008 08:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SPECIAL K is going to have 5 Districts, he's going to pick up 3 more around down-town.


GOD HELP US!

11/24/2008 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Rumor has it that Daley is really a talking Platapuss.

11/24/2008 08:11:00 PM"


And, I assume, no disrespect meant to the 'Platapuss'?

11/24/2008 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What gives?

11/24/2008 07:17:00 PM"



Mid life crisis?

11/24/2008 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is with the new Gang Unit. Let me get this right, the Area Gang Lietuenants will now work for OCS under I think it was, Schmidt. All the Gang Teams in the Districts will now work for Schmidt which justifies the 5 or 6 Lieutenants that work for the Deputy Chiefs going too. Who will Supervise the Area Gun and Saturation Teams then, the Deputy Chiefs? Who will go with them on warrants when needed, the Deputy Chief? Now, all of these people are going to be taken out of patrol? You have the new Gang Unit, you have the Mobile Strike Force Unit and you have TRU. All, fully staffed with officers, sergeants and lieutenants. You have patrol arrest numbers down and RAPS going up. So, you now have even less people to answer calls. At least, the gang teams did help with jobs, especially PCS, in progress calls, shots fired calls and especially if a gun was involved.

Now, the Mayor said he will maybe hire 200 police officers next year, though we have at least 50 police who will retire by the 1st quarter. This has been historical for CPD. Those are our major retirement months.

Homicides are almost at 500, we have less police that are actually knowledgeable of an area within a district, who may be more effective because they know the players, now assigned God knows where at a whim by idiots who have no real clue.

You might as well give Mike Masters a handpicked clout heavy team and let him police because that is the level of knowledge the Area 3 and CCG teams have to now dispell citywide!!!

Wow Jfed, you really know how to run a police department and put the police where they are needed.

Thank you,
Signed....Retiring January 15th and moving to Florida, but I don't want to get dumped from 35th before I am ready to go. Oh wait, I have a 13B, FUCK IT
HG!!!

11/24/2008 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
MSF and TRU Are both worthless. Get rid of them both.

11/24/2008 09:57:00 AM

This guy can eat the peanuts out of my shit. You must have a hell of a resume and great arrest activity to be able to make that judgement. Yeah....right..... loser!

11/24/2008 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry, MT is safe. There's one disinfranchised SOB by the initials of MK who has major egg on his face after he did everything he could to stop the Glock approval which MT championed for years. MK got himself dumped out of a choice spot in the Academy and now he's out to stick a knife in MT's back anytime he can. I'm someone who worked with MK and I'm sick of his BS. MT has loyal people working for him because he's fair,has balls, and will back his people 100% something MK wouldn't know anything about.
Signed:
Someone who knows better

11/24/2008 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the city bomb dog teams will be removed from the airports. shortage on the streets. need more dogs to protect obama's residence and the federal building. no coverage downtown or within the subway systems this holiday season. maybe even the next two months. dont worry about your family as long as the obama family is protected.

11/25/2008 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that I will come back from IOD...i dont think so! Too cold plus think of the tax exempt I'm getting.

ExTRU Ranger

11/25/2008 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have the new Gang Unit, you have the Mobile Strike Force Unit and you have TRU. All, fully staffed with officers, sergeants and lieutenants.

Ok...roll it up...everyone else can go home!! right??

11/25/2008 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Don't worry, MT is safe. There's one disinfranchised SOB by the initials of MK who has major egg on his face after he did everything he could to stop the Glock approval which MT championed for years. MK got himself dumped out of a choice spot in the Academy and now he's out to stick a knife in MT's back anytime he can. I'm someone who worked with MK and I'm sick of his BS. MT has loyal people working for him because he's fair,has balls, and will back his people 100% something MK wouldn't know anything about.
Signed:
Someone who knows better

11/24/2008 10:40:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$444444

YEA YEA YEA.

Blah blah blah

Either way MT or MK........WHATEVER..Remember you still work at the Academy so..... go get me a Projector son we are showing a movie on the second floor rm. 200! And make sure you pay for a Christmas Party Ticket!

11/25/2008 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Here's a pretty solid rumor for you

The Captains are have either signed off, or are close to signing off, on the Inspector position becoming a Captain's job. Not known how they will fill those spots though.

This means that big bird is coming to a district near you!

11/24/2008 08:39:00 AM

___________________________________

No that is not what that means.
It means that big bird is about to get another promotion and that need to change the job discription fo r Inspecter so that he can keep it.

11/25/2008 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: Why dump Tobais? The recruits have much better training than ever. Sure the academy has it's B.S. like any other district, however Tobias has created a great program.

SUCKHOLE!!! The academy is worse than it ever has been.....Get a clue

11/25/2008 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

"....Not being homophobic...."

I am so glad to hear that. Would you care to join me for some white wine spritzers?

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

11/25/2008 12:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Platapus? PLATAPUS?

I can put up with the misspellings, poor english and childish rants of the new breed.

But, even old revolversaurs know their puss.

PlatYpus, kids.

11/25/2008 02:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 10:40pm
I hate to disappoint you but the smears against Matt aren't from me!

RE: Glock Pistols,
some egg, I own one, and I recommended the Dept adopt same, with extra training...just like they did.

If you want to kiss Matt's ass, please do, but you need not stir up shit with me to accomplish this.
But if you feel you must use me as your nemesis then by all means have at it!
You mentioned working with me in a "spot" on the range. I never looked at my job on the range as a "spot", for me it was a profession.
I guess your lip lock on the bosses ass keeps you in your "spot", congratulations. How does success taste?
Regards
MPK

11/25/2008 04:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only change I want is to get rid of that runt female sergeant in charge of GPS. What a f-ing bitch. Took every ounce of energy I had from smacking that smart ass broad the other day. On top of all that I hear she's piling up overtime by the boatload on this asshole project. Can anyone confirm this?

11/25/2008 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
can't staff patrol cars, but the desk must over staffed, so why not have an officer in charge of looking out the back door.

11/25/2008 06:44:00 PM

because the rib dinner will get cold.

11/25/2008 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they can change the w/c on 3rd watch in 020. Who is this guy? He threatens blueshirts who don't 'contribute' what he believes is enough. He's got a quota on movers and punishes working coppers who don't do his double digits by breaking up partners and dumping them off cars. Now he's trying to get legal affairs involved to see if he can turn the screw tighter. Any advice other than to quit crying and bid out? Can Bella/FOP do anything or is this watch done?

11/26/2008 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gene Roy, Gene Roy, Gene Roy. Please dump this idiot. And a fitting moment would be just before Thanksgiving, so Gene the Clown doesn't taint the new facility by being its first Commander. With a new station, hopefully the powers at the hall will use a new broom to sweep clean and leave us with a new boss and a new fresh start. Santa, please gives us an early Christmas present and get shortshanks to launch Gene the Clown! Don't bother with J-FED the middleman because he would just have to check with shortshanks for permission. shortshanks runs the CPD, not J-FED.

11/24/2008 09:36:00 AM

I 2nd that motion! (and he can take his no street time {office,caps & stats} staff with him!

11/26/2008 02:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever is beefing about MK, should step back and reconsider what they are saying. MK was one of a handful of range masters that cared about the troops and took care of them. And by taking care of them I don't mean passing them during qualification time when they should have failed them. I mean caring,competent,meaningful instruction. MK,JA,TR were all EXCELLENT choices to work on the range. They were knowlegeable, polite, helpful,friendly and they didn't try to embarrass you if you were not a good shot or a little nervous about qualifying. The door to the range was always open and if you had some extra time or a question you could always stop in. No question was stupid or not answered. Compare that to what's gong on now. With the exception of Teddy, the range masters make you feel as though you are an alien from outer space when you ask for some practice time or have a question. With the exception of Teddy's range, the door is always closed. Those complaining about MK should
reconsider their position on him and be honest about him and put their personal feelings aside. You don't have to like the guy but you should at least admit that he was good. Who TRIED to increase the training program to give us more range time? Who TRIED to alter the qualification course to make it more meaningful and realistic? Who TRIED to get the Department to conduct their own ballistic testing? I'll tell you who in case you don't know or are not honest enough to admit. MK, that's who.
No sir, when I become superintendent one of the first things I will do is bring MK,JA back to the range. I will even try to get the little man to give up that nice job in private industry to come back work the range again. He along with MK and JA can then get back to what they did best. Give the boys and girls in blue the absolute best firearms instruction available in any police department nationwide today.

It's sad. The three best range guys are now doing what? One is pushing a beat car in a district, one is counting paper clips at the Training Center and the other left for a job in private industry. Only in the Chicago Police department would something like this happen. What a waste!

11/26/2008 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

But you never answered the question. What else comes with the spritzers, or is a stale one line joke all that you are capable of?

11/26/2008 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please, please, stop printing kessing bandit! No one wants to hear your stupid comments.

11/26/2008 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But you never answered the question. What else comes with the spritzers, or is a stale one line joke all that you are capable of?

11/26/2008 07:56:00 AM"


Do you really want a demonstration of what he's capable of?

11/27/2008 07:27:00 AM  

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