You Are On Your Own
We've mentioned on a few occasions that everyone ought to read The Advocate. The Advocate is the Internal Affairs newsletter that highlights disciplinary process, proper procedure, and uses actual cases to outline how much time one can expect for various infractions. Some highlights:
- 10 days for failure to report a parking lot accident;
- 10 days for AWOL and insubordination;
- 227 days (yes, two hundred-twenty-seven days) for having unauthorized control over Department radios reported stolen; another 270 days (not a misprint - 270) for numerous unauthorized court appearances.
Here's a section that everyone ought to be aware of:
- Sworn Affidavit
An officer issued a citation for loud music and impounded the vehicle of the offender. The offender contacted [IPRA] and obtained a Log Number alleging that the officer took numerous items from his vehicle including radios, speakers, amplifiers and televisions. The offender sighed a Sworn Affidavit certifying the allegation was true. The CR Number was investigated. The investigating sergeant unfounded the allegation based on statements provided by witnesses. The officer hired an attorney and filed suit against the offender for Slander Per Se. After a bench trial on July 2, 2008, the judge found the offender failed to meet a qualified privilege; had no basis for the complaint; was unable to provide any other defense or explanation; and that his conduct accounted to a reckless disregard for the truth. A judgment was entered on behalf of the officer. Even though perjury charges were not sought, this case demonstrates officers who are the subject of a false complaint have a remedy available in civil court.
A few points (and completely our opinion):
- Perjury, though proven in this case and provable in hundreds of others, is NEVER going to be prosecuted by the Cook County States Attorney. You cannot be the victim in the eyes of the CCSA. You are a non-entity.
- The Department will not back you and the City will not back you. That might offend reliably democratic voters. Any remedy to YOUR reputation, YOUR credibility and YOUR good name will be undertaken at YOUR expense, on YOUR time and completely at YOUR direction.
So the Sworn Affidavit is revealed to be completely toothless and was never passed to protect officers - it's a farce. Luckily, an intelligent officer figured a way to make it work for him, but The Advocate lists only a judgment. If you sue someone with no money, expect a lot of "judgments" to pile up and, unfortunately, any bankruptcy judge is going to put a slander judgment way at the bottom of a list of creditors should the offender actually get some money.
FOP ought to have a list of lawyers available for this type of work. Or farm it out. A couple of well publicized wins and bullshit CRs start to disappear.
FOP ought to have a list of lawyers available for this type of work. Or farm it out. A couple of well publicized wins and bullshit CRs start to disappear.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
146 Comments:
How much more do the boys and girls on this job have to be told do nothing more than is required! Watch your back, they will screw in a new york minute! We need more activity, hey boss maybe the white shirts can "pick up the pace?"
Where can we find the advocate
makes you wanna run out and make that arrest or write that mover
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/
click on beavers piece video showing how much more the county steals from us, and the idiots are so stupid they have no clue how much they stole!
they only protect the brass against lawsuits and scandals, and committing perjury. the biggest problem is still at the academy and nothing has been done. just remember the last two big shots just pleaded guilty.
NOW THATS FUNNY....FOP should have a list.
As far as I am concerned the 277 day suspension should of been termination. The radio that P.O. Buford Smith was in control of was a radio that was taken from the 015th dist., furthermore another P.O. took 5 days for it for failure to sign it back in. And by the way P.O. Smith also was in possession of an IAD stix radio that belonged to a Sgt. And where was this found? Why in his house that he was being evicted from by Cook Co. Sheriff's for failing to pay the mortgage.
It makes me sick to know that we have thieves on this job taht would steal from other P.O.'s.
Buford you P.O.S. they should of canned your ass.
Let me get this right. Lawyers are our friends when we need them, other wise their shit????
Not only are we on our own, we are idiots. At least after reading that, I really wonder why I do the things I do for this city.
We know the city (Daley/Obama/Rod/Alderman/liberals)don't care about us, yet we still risk our lives/finances for them. If that isn't the definition of idiotic, I don't know what is.
how many days for 19 pauling all your jobs. this is why we have the medical. the guys who are hanging time on po's are pussies. no contract-- no workee.
FOP ought to have a list of lawyers available for this type of work. Or farm it out. A couple of well publicized wins and bullshit CRs start to disappear.
Yea right....give me a break.
A couple of well publicized wins and bullshit CRs start to disappear.
Of course most of the bullshit CRs come from people with no money and no source of income you can garnish. So, why exactly do they care? It's not like they're worried about getting an unpaid judgment on their records so they can't get into medical school. Mickey D's doesn't do background checks when they hire.
No mention of the Marine Corps birthday on the tenth!!!? 233 years old.
I knew I was on my own early on. They taught classes in CYA in the academy. I give a shit about covering for the city, they won't look out for me so fuck them.
Where can we find the advocate
11/11/2008 12:23:00 AM
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From the intranet, go to bureau sites. Click on Bureau of Professional Standards, find IAD, and a link for the Advocate should be on the left hand side of the page.
I applaud the effort of this officer to bring on this lawsuit. We can use more details though. Does anyone know a docket #, the PO, or anything else that may be helpful?
Also, everyone else sues the city, why can't we? Is there anything written anywhere that these affidavits are in place to protect us from anything other than disciplinary action?
If you are an attorney reading this blog and would be willing to take on one of these scumbags (city included), post your info. I've been sued several times and have NEVER done anything that any of the suits allege. City paid out every one of the plaintiffs. I serve-protect and get low class non working citizens PAID!
Not one of them had a job.
At least we have FOP. Huh...Huh...Huh. Donahue and the boys are laughing all the way to the bank. Still no contract - no arbitration. When are they going to do something for us?
The two big cases there were probably separation cases and when the officers got their jobs back from police board, their 227 and 270 days respectively were probably considered time served. No one actually recommended a 227 day suspension. That is retarded.
Secondly, how many days should someone get for being AWOL? I have worked at other jobs where it is automayic termination if you fail to report to work without notification.
Thirdly, out of the cases that SCC listed here, we have no idea what kind of discplinary history the officers had. They may have bneen horrible, thus increasing the penalty.
Having said this, I still think that the mutts out there have the upper hand over us with this BS LOG system that we have. IPRA takes every complaint no questions asked becasue everyone is afraid the one time they tell someone they are crazy, it is going to be the friend of a reverend or alderman.
As you can problay tell, I work in IAD, and I see the bosses first hand give every mutt the benefit of the doubt. The new thing now is to reopen cases that were closed because of no contact with the complainant. I have seen cases opened becasue a letter was sent to IAD saying, "I was never contacted about this complaint." I guess there is no statute of limitations. Complete chicken shit. Becasue that is what every boss on this job is. Chicken Shit.
Off the topic " from the Sun-times" Mayors 2009 budget clears first hurdle. What did he do with the money set aside for the police in 2008 since we did not get a contract?
UNBELIEVABLE, the legislative intent of the sworn affidavit is to prosecute offenders who lie under oath concerning complaints against law enforcement members.
It is a travesty that the CCSAO does not prosecute these crimes. Don't worry, keep up the good work and continue to do nothing and the CCSAO will be running out of cases to prosecute and maybe (just maybe) they will start prosecuting these offenses.
Prosecutors and defense attorneys have started to notice the lack of arrests and they are starting to cry about it. The taxpayers will start to wonder why there are a bunch of ASA's, judges and court reporters sitting around collecting salaries and not doing anything. In a time of such economic instability the is no reason to substantiate the CCSAO's office if they aren't working.
The media should start doing their job and start looking into the drop in arrests and why this is happening (hint, hint: you shit on the police and productivity goes down).
For too long we have provided that office with quality arrests and they have been allowed to pick and choose what cases they would prosecute. Maybe the City, the CCSAO and a large block of citizens of Chicago should stop using the CPD as their doormat and you would see a drop in crime and a safer community.
Richie, Give us a contract, stop trying to financially screw us over, restrict OUR constitutionally protected rights, and change our disciplinary policy. The average cop just wants to do his job and be left alone when he is off-duty.
I would have to agree with that previous poster. You're in possession of ANY stolen Dept.equipment, you're GONE!!!
"Anonymous said...
Let me get this right. Lawyers are our friends when we need them, other wise their shit????
11/11/2008 01:20:00 AM,
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They are NOT our friends. They are our employees when we need them. They are someone we hire to do a job. We don't have to like them. We have to make sure they get paid or have a good enough case in order to get paid.
They aren't our buddies, it's a business arrangement.
Sorry, there is no hypocrisy here.
You can see the difference, can't you counselor?
how much time for sexual harassment?
Where can we find the advocate
11/11/2008 12:23:00 AM
Look in I-Clear- under Legal Affairs- you should find The Advocate and all the legal bulletins that are still in force. The department puts this stuff out in print in limited quanitites but maintains the pdf file on the intranet. Educate yourself before someone/something else does.
I wonder if there is some kind of legal action officers can take against the department, IPRA, or the state's attorney for failing to pursue perjery charges, including a civil lawsuit. If we can be sued, why can't they? Additionally, if we are the subject of false complaints, aren't our civil rights being violated? Can't a lawsuit be created against the entire city policy for violation of due process?
Good job done by all last night for missing 3 yr old girl. 16th dist video surveillance team captured images that led to the police of the 17th dist and the detectives finding the little girl safe & sound.
Great job.
HEY GUYS...I JUST DISCOVERED SOMETHING!!! IF I DO THE BARE MINIMUM...I STILL GET PAID..AND EVEN BETTER..I HAVE SENIORITY...SO GUESS WHAT??..I GET PAID TIME AND A HALF TO DO LESS ON MY DAY OFF..WOW..WHAT A GREAT JOB..I FEEL LIKE A FIREMAN..YOU SHOULD TRY THIS!!
Let me get this right. Lawyers are our friends when we need them, other wise their shit????
11/11/2008 01:20:00 AM
No, "their shit" is not mine, however, "they're" shit! Get it?
I hope you isn't no lawyer!
You guys are still ignoring the FACT that the majority of CR's of initiated by coppers, against coppers. No affidavit needed. I see that as a bigger problem.
Let me get this right. Lawyers are our friends when we need them, other wise their shit????
11/11/2008 01:20:00 AM
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No, they're shit all the time, that's why we pay them when we need them.
The officer hired an attorney and filed suit against the offender for Slander Per Se.
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Please post that lawyers name. He'll get tons of cses.
Any chance to sue the CCSA Office for failure to prosecute? There HAS to be more that we can do?
Copper from ORD was accused of being drunk on duty by a civilian.
Copper was taken to district, blew .000 and then did a urine drop which was clean.
Copper filed suit against the civilian and won a high six figures.
Copper had a nice nest egg when he retired.
Anyone think Obama will send Daley federal money to hire police, hence thats why Daley plans to only hire 200 from his budget??
OT: Do you guys know anyone that has left the CPD to join the LAPD? I only have 3 years on and I am thinking of leaving this corrupt city...I hear LAPD has the 3/12 and 4/10 schedule and their pension is 96% funded!
That judgement is going on every Section 8 application, every credit card application, every car loan, every mortgage application, and every student loan application.
The officer can file another suit to attach this judgement to any property this POS owns. Any property he inherits. Any paycheck he gets.
Even if the officer never gets a penny, it was well worth the effort and maybe even several hundred dollars to insure that the POS never escapes this lie.
And if the POS ever does sue on the bogus complaint, the city will settle, and the officer will get paid.
Thank you officer for taking the time and energy to do that. These POS's have endless amounts of time, but they don't have endless amounts of money. Word will get around.
if that scumbag ever hits the ghetto lottery. they have to pay that judgment off.
The officer from 015 stole two police radios, allowed another po to take time for one of the missing radios and only got caught because he was being evicted from his house IN THE 015TH DISTRICT. Anyone who defends this guy is a moron.
Let me get this right. Lawyers are our friends when we need them, other wise their shit????
11/11/2008 01:20:00 AM
It's the same way with the police. Everyone hates the police until they need us. Then, it's "please help please help!"
they only protect the brass against lawsuits and scandals, and committing perjury. the biggest problem is still at the academy and nothing has been done. just remember the last two big shots just pleaded guilty.
11/11/2008 12:40:00 AM
The brass will not be protected by the city anymore, according to two recent cases. PERJURY!!! Tisk, Tisk. I sleep just fine, but I can't say that about everyone in this department.
"Of course most of the bullshit CRs come from people with no money and no source of income you can garnish. So, why exactly do they care? It's not like they're worried about getting an unpaid judgment on their records so they can't get into medical school. Mickey D's doesn't do background checks when they hire.
11/11/2008 06:32:00 AM"
The concept is based on the premise that those who lie, do so with the expectation of receiving a 'windfall' settlement from the city (taxpayers), via their lies being accepted as truth.
Success in placing a judgment on their expected 'windfall' will discourage those pesky lawyers, aka hired liars, from attempting to gain said settlements, via representing the aforementioned lie tellers.
If said settlements are made, the judgments will bear fruit for the aggrieved parties who take the time, and make the efforts, to seek same.
To take a lickin' and keep on tickin' only works for Timex.
I saw the advocate yesterday and I was amazed that people got 10 days for not reporting an accident. If I can remember correctly, did it happen in 010? WTF happened?
SCC, I've noticed you've stayed away from the Hudson murders.
But it appears that Balfour is guilty. Just like Jason Austin was guilty of the murder of Det. Soto.
What's going on here? Why aren't these cases closed w/ the offenders in prison?!
Anyone have any info on the new order that will allow all sworn to have tazers?
>>>Where can we find the advocate
11/11/2008 12:23:00 AM<<<
Jeez! "The Advocate" (as in Department Advocate), is one of those piles of paper that gather dust along side with all the piles of other papers at the station, like all the new General Orders(blue), Special Orders(yellow) and Department Notices (gray).
They gather dust until there is no room where ever the piles are stacked and then someone dumps them in the trash to make room for new piles to gathers dust and so on and so on as it always has been.
It’s probably sitting there at your station, next to the new G.O. on Helicopters Involved in Vehicle Pursuits. Why did this have to be split up with 3-4 addendums? Our eye in the sky can be a big help or hurt, if you screw up in a pursuit. Watch, the department will soon put numbers on our car rooftops.
Stay safe, read that stuff and drive carefully.
now you two - three year wonders dying to get on a tac team go and get em. they don't pull you up there bc your shit don't stink. they pull you up there b/c you are the only ones willing to do whatever the boss says. Now go get what the boss says. That means Dispersals & contact cards and DOPW's. Better wise up.
You would think that the city would at least have one attorney to work with officers on these matters. The fact is, it's in the city's best interest as well.
I never heard about this incident, have you?
http://www.crimefilenews.com/2008/11/smile-officer-youre-on-candid-camera.html
I am ready and waiting to sue this useless dogs out here!
I would file a police report and I would not cooperate with any internal investigation. The officers need to cooperate with those procedures but civilians don't. Better off hiring your own lawyer and filing your own lawsuit and let the ridiculous risk management office who's only real goal is to eliminate liability for the department, I mean, the people in charge of investigating CRs order their own records and do whatever they want to do with the file after a real judgment has been issued.
I told this TRUE story on here a few years ago. PO is accused of being drunk by a traffic violator, PO calls for a sgt. who takes the complaint and orders the PO to blow. PO blows a 0.00, PO sues complainant (who has nothing) but judge finds in favor of PO. Lien is in place against complainant. A few years later complainant wins a large amount of $ in the IL lottery, PO collects judgement of approx. $9000.00!!! You never know when the scumbag may hit a lotto or something!!!
I can see only imagine the look on an attorneys face when he wins and his fee is awarded as a 33% share of the monthly link card allowance.
Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go I wanna be sedated
Nothin' to do and no where to go-o-oh I wanna be sedated
Just get me to the airport put me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry before I go insane
I can't control my fingers I can't control my brain
Oh no no no no no
po who has stopped giving a fuck
Is it true that in California, criminals who can find out where you live have been known to put liens on officer's home so when the officer goes to sell it, he has a legal nightmare to contend with?
A couple of well publicized wins and bullshit CRs start to disappear.
Of course most of the bullshit CRs come from people with no money and no source of income you can garnish. So, why exactly do they care? It's not like they're worried about getting an unpaid judgment on their records so they can't get into medical school. Mickey D's doesn't do background checks when they hire.
11/11/2008 06:32:00 AM
It's a vindication of your reputation asshole. If someone fucks with you just for the sake of fucking with you, drag HIS broke ass into court and clear your name. Maybe make someone think twice next time they decide to lie about police officer.
Actually, if we could find a good lawyer (Lovy and Lovy like to sue the city), a class action law suit against the city and the CCSA office for failue to prosecute a false allegation.
I mean you have a Sworn Affidavit certifying the allegation was true, a judge who finds the offender failed to meet a qualified privilege, had no basis for the complaint, was unable to provide any other defense or explanation, and that his conduct accounted to a reckless disregard for the truth.
Just a thought.
food for thought.....if the public is not complaining about you.....but some misguided loser, er,I mean very disgruntled sworn member(s)put phony cr# on you; can I go for a civil judgement with the stipulation of a lien on their future wages in court? As I am certain I can prove their reporting to be phony and if I were to prevail;, I would not want to chase them for the money? Any one out there have this situation yet? I am tired of hearing how sorry these individuals are after they whack your reputation around for several months. seriously!
SCC's post:
A few points (and completely our opinion):
Perjury, though proven in this case and provable in hundreds of others, is NEVER going to be prosecuted by the Cook County States Attorney. You cannot be the victim in the eyes of the CCSA.
You are a non-entity. The Department will not back you and the City will not back you. That might offend reliably democratic voters. Any remedy to YOUR reputation, YOUR credibility and YOUR good name will be undertaken at YOUR expense, on YOUR time and completely at YOUR direction.
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SCC, your opinion here is right on:
Cops are just a necessary evil for the polititions...they can't live with us and can't live without us. They don't want us to rile up their constituants, yet they want us to keep them away from their front door.
For Daley and his crew, cops should only be seen and not heard...oh, and they should be his chauffer, his bodyguard and a source of income for the city as long as we don't try to claim any of that money for our own contract!
Screw Shortshanks!!!
exactly, all the publication of this judgment is is a smokescreen for the dept's and SA's office inaction. Using the same logic in domestic batteries we no longer need to make an arrest becuase the victim can use an alternative action to end the situation. A perjury conviction with at least some time in county sends a message. The judgment that the issue refers to is no punishment at all, can't squeeze blood from a turnip, and . What you should also see in the same issue though is their decision in a "no response" cr# is no longer unfounded but is now "no affidavit" so they can keep it on your record and reopen it later
FYI: The number of BS complaints did drop drasticly when complainants were forced to sign an affidavit in order to obtain a CR. Even more so when sgts informed complainants they could be sued by officers if they lied...but no system is perfect. At least they don't take anonymous complaints anymore.
It would be a waste of time and money to sue these low-lifes for slander because you would probably have to burn time for court, and hire counsel with your own money just to get nothing in return. If this joke of a system had any sense, they would mandate prison time in lieu of compensatory damages owed to an officer for a citizen who was found to commit false allegations and reports. Why should it be any different for them? If you perjured yourself, you would do time, right? It's time to hold everyone to the same standard. Allegations against officers are very serious, and by the same token, if someone has made them in malice and spite knowing them to be false, they should suffer equally serious consequences for trying to discredit and strip an officer's credibility. The city should also stop rewarding these thugs by settling; prolong and continue the proceedings until they just give up -- like they do with our contract negotiations!
Anonymous said...
they only protect the brass against lawsuits and scandals, and committing perjury. the biggest problem is still at the academy and nothing has been done. just remember the last two big shots just pleaded guilty.
11/11/2008 12:40:00 AM
who?
Anonymous said...
Is it true that in California, criminals who can find out where you live have been known to put liens on officer's home so when the officer goes to sell it, he has a legal nightmare to contend with?
11/11/2008 03:50:00 PM
Why post some shit like that? Idiot!
I am an attorney and a police officer. I will be this department's worst nightmare. I am just sitting back, listening and learning, waiting to be vested, then I will definately run!
But you never know when one of these lying POS will hit the ghetto lottery...so get the judgment. And with a few wins byt the coppers, maybe these money-grubbing attorneys who make their killing representing these lying shithead IR numbers will look for more respectable clients. Okay, not that likely, but still, I'm just sayin...
You can see the difference, can't you counselor?
11/11/2008 08:43:00 AM
I always cringe when you guys call an attorney that. The proper term is "Counsel"...
The officer from 015 stole two police radios, allowed another po to take time for one of the missing radios and only got caught because he was being evicted from his house IN THE 015TH DISTRICT. Anyone who defends this guy is a moron.
11/11/2008 12:01:00 PM
I would hardly call him a P.O. I would rather call him a thief which is exactly what he is. I personally know the P.O. who took the time and it was 5 days. Although he grieved it and got it back it still is beside the point. Buford Smith should of been fired.
At least they don't take anonymous complaints anymore.
11/11/2008 05:38:00 PM
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SORRY !!!
A number is generated everytime !!!
Anonymous or not it starts as a LOG # to be converted into a CR # on a signed affid, but if IAD/White shirt feels the complaint is legit guess what they sign it !!! So you get a loop hole that FOP will not say S^^T about !! Wake up people the FOP sold us out and is about to finish us all off for DA MAYOR and his flunky WEASEL !!
11:08AM, LAPD has historically been a real chicken-shit outfit. Very high percentage of them never make it to collect that pension. they try to fuck with them so they quit. I remember reading some time ago, may have changed by now though, that they average copper only lasted 7 years out there. They cull the herd thru terminations, physical disability, etc.... The ones that make it to the end are blithering idiots who end up running up to Sandpoint, Idaho and build bunkers. LA blows and is not a place I would like to police.
FOP only blows our money on fired exempts (Burge) and NOT on real coppers.
"You would think that the city would at least have one attorney to work with officers on these matters. The fact is, it's in the city's best interest as well.
11/11/2008 02:25:00 PM"
Depends on what the definition of 'city's best interest' is and whose definition is being applied in the decision making process.
SCC,
The Sworn Affidavit law is not a farce. I challenge you to print the statistics for # of CR's the year prior to Sworn Affidavit versus the year after the law took effect. The reduction was dramatic. Check it out and you'll agree.
As the lawyers say: "You can't draw blood from a turnip." Lawsuits do not -- and will not -- hurt these lying dogs. Arrests and convictions for perjury will. Lawsuits won't deter the liars. Arrests will. Thankfully, that Depends-wearing worthless senile old asshole Dickless Devine will be out of a job next year. The FLOP should pressure Alvarez to arrest and prosecute one of the liars. She might listen. I'm sure FLOP gave her some of our money.
Did everyone hear about the latest AZ 011 incident? HILARIOUS! Got OC sprayed by a Captain walking by his house on the south side after having words and attacking the Captain who allegedly OC sprayed AZ's beloved rottweiller!!! HAHAHAHA how the FUCK this guy still has a job is beyond me! If I stumbled in half the shit AZ does Id been shit canned years ago!!! How do you do it, AZ? You should write a fucking book!
I always cringe when you guys call an attorney that. The proper term is "Counsel"...
11/11/2008 06:43:00 PM
I'm so sorry. I thought it was "FUCKTARD."
The department still takes anonymous CR#s if the allegegations are criminal. Would someone explain this to me?
Anyone think Obama will send Daley federal money to hire police, hence thats why Daley plans to only hire 200 from his budget??
11/11/2008 11:04:00 AM
Anonymous Thinking of leaving Chicago said...
OT: Do you guys know anyone that has left the CPD to join the LAPD? I only have 3 years on and I am thinking of leaving this corrupt city...I hear LAPD has the 3/12 and 4/10 schedule and their pension is 96% funded!
11/11/2008 11:08:00 AM
Yes, a guy I worked with left for LAPD, a few years ago. He did the academy then some time in the field. After a short tour in the beat car, they moved him to a job using his prior experience and college degree.
The thing he was most amazed with, LAPD treats their officers like adults!
He was single at the time of the move, and had 10 years on CPD.
He loves it.
>>>Where can we find the advocate
11/11/2008 12:23:00 AM<<<
Jeez! "The Advocate" (as in Department Advocate), is one of those piles of paper that gather dust along side with all the piles of other papers at the station, like all the new General Orders(blue), Special Orders(yellow) and Department Notices (gray).
They gather dust until there is no room where ever the piles are stacked and then someone dumps them in the trash to make room for new piles to gathers dust and so on and so on as it always has been.
It’s probably sitting there at your station, next to the new G.O. on Helicopters
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Get real. Instead of dazzling us with your prose, how about just answering the question?
Go to Bureau sites on Iclear and find Internal Affairs. That's the page where they have the forms for CRs, notifications and such.
The Advocate is online, linked on that page (obviously, I'm not at work, so can't look at Clear and walk you through it line by line.)
Is our government going to bail out Starbucks?
OT: Obama and State of Illinois Veteran's Affairs Director Tammy Duckworth placed a flower wreath in front of the Veteran's Memorial at Soldier Field today, Veteran's Day.
On her outer garment, Ms. Duckworth was proudly wearing an oversized lapel pin of the American flag composed of glittering red, white and blue rhinestones. It was beautiful and appeared to be approximately 4" across and 2" high. There was no doubt that Ms. Duckworth wanted to display her patriotism. On the other hand, Obama wore no pin of any kind or size on his outer garment as he placed the wreath.
Ms. Duckworth, a War Veteran, recognizes the value of displaying the American Flag at the Veteran's Memorial. Our soon to be Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America, President-elect B. Hussein Obama, does not have the common sense or desire to display the same American Flag.
How sad. The people that voted for this man have no idea what they have done in electing him as our President and rejecting War Hero John McCain. How very sad.
OFF TOPIC, BUT IMPORTANT! I had occasion to deal with that nitwit Birl Madden, the 011 midnights lockup keeper, who accused me of calling him an a$%hole. I never said a word, but he came right up to the bars of the waitin area and tried to get in my face. This guy has lost his mind and is try to coax someone into kicking his a@#! I wouldn't take the bait and strongly caution any Po who has to deal with this bunghole.
OT: Do you guys know anyone that has left the CPD to join the LAPD? I only have 3 years on and I am thinking of leaving this corrupt city...I hear LAPD has the 3/12 and 4/10 schedule and their pension is 96% funded!
I left CPD to go to Houston PD and I have never been happier! There are better departments out there just do your research and talk to some coppers there. If you still have time to get a full pension somewhere else it's worth it.
Buford... obviously another Irish or Italian copper. LOL!
We have always been alone. I was on the job for the 68 DNC. a good friend of mine along with seven other's were charged with misconduct. This was after the mayor and the city begged us and told us to do what ever it takes to get the city back. and after it was all said and done the hippies beefed and the mayor gave them eight coppers to put on trial to save his ass.
the apple never falls to far from the tree.
be save and put your body and minds on cruse control for a city that will never love you.
signed
Retire guy
"Ms. Duckworth, a War Veteran, recognizes the value of displaying the American Flag at the Veteran's Memorial. Our soon to be Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America, President-elect B. Hussein Obama, does not have the common sense or desire to display the same American Flag."
Enough already. The man isn't even the President yet, but he stood out in the rain with Duckworth and honored our fallen.
He's an American, plain and simple, like everyone else.
I don't wear flag pins on my clothes or uniform either, and I've never served in the military, but I am as patriotic as anyone else. Get over it, pal. He won.
He's in. Move to Canada if it bothers you so much. 4 years of hate is a long time.
SCC
RE/advocate
I like the one were the officer got thirty days for not making an arrest for the university of Chicago security department.
now we have to kiss a private security guard companies ass.
Just like the security companies employed by the old cha and cta.
don't let these private law breaking militias ruin your career, arrest them with cross complaints..every one goes down
By all means, FOP, give me the name of a good attorney. There's a boss that put a case (CR) on me and I was exonerated. He did it to harrass me and bring redicule.
Anonymous said...
Let me get this right. Lawyers are our friends when we need them, other wise their shit????
11/11/2008 01:20:00 AM
Hey dirt bag. You bring it on yourselves. Clean up your act. You too can be respected. I respect my attorney. He earned it.
Better yet. Let us use our very own police officers who are also attorneys.
"Ms. Duckworth, a War Veteran, recognizes the value of displaying the American Flag at the Veteran's Memorial. Our soon to be Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America, President-elect B. Hussein Obama, does not have the common sense or desire to display the same American Flag."
PIMPY,PIMPY,PIMPY.
Why don't you ask Ms. Duckworth if she feels slighted by President elect Obama non-wearing of a pin reflected in any way on his Patriotism.
Wrapping yourself so tightly in the flag is cutting off circulation& your post is such proof.
Anonymous said...
UNBELIEVABLE, the legislative intent of the sworn affidavit is to prosecute offenders who lie under oath concerning complaints against law enforcement members.
From my perspective; I believe the architechs of the affidavit intended the language to frighten off and intimidate the would-be complainants into not signing one.
Anonymous said...
11:08AM, LAPD has historically been a real chicken-shit outfit. Very high percentage of them never make it to collect that pension. they try to fuck with them so they quit. I remember reading some time ago, may have changed by now though, that they average copper only lasted 7 years out there. They cull the herd thru terminations, physical disability, etc.... The ones that make it to the end are blithering idiots who end up running up to Sandpoint, Idaho and build bunkers. LA blows and is not a place I would like to police.
11/11/2008 06:58:00 PM
...the differeance here being?...
Anonymous said...
how much time for sexual harassment?
11/11/2008 08:50:00 AM
None! as demonstrated by Shields (M/1) and Brown (M/1) not Matt.
Anonymous said...
You guys are still ignoring the FACT that the majority of CR's of initiated by coppers, against coppers. No affidavit needed. I see that as a bigger problem.
11/11/2008 10:11:00 AM
Yeah! Big Time. Ask the airport bitch who got a CR on a fellow PO and the titless boss that initiated it.
It's a vindication of your reputation asshole. If someone fucks with you just for the sake of fucking with you, drag HIS broke ass into court and clear your name. Maybe make someone think twice next time they decide to lie about police officer.
11/11/2008 03:54:00 PM
Would this also apply to a boss who fucks with you by putting bullshit CRs and SPARs on you?
please says yes. I'm feeling in much need of vindication.
vindication wanted said...
By all means, FOP, give me the name of a good attorney. There's a boss that put a case (CR) on me and I was exonerated. He did it to harrass me and bring redicule.
11/11/2008 11:31:00 PM
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I think you just did that yourself by your spelling.....
I like the one were the officer got thirty days for not making an arrest for the university of Chicago security department.
They ahve their own PD..
Another thing about LAPD and why their officers only last about 7 years is because they are P.O.S.T. certified. (Police Officer Standard Training.) They can go to other California departments, where they are highly sought after. Their pension transfers so they don't lose. That is why they do 7 and leave.
Enough already. The man isn't even the President yet, but he stood out in the rain with Duckworth and honored our fallen.
He's an American, plain and simple, like everyone else.
I don't wear flag pins on my clothes or uniform either, and I've never served in the military, but I am as patriotic as anyone else. Get over it, pal. He won.
He's in. Move to Canada if it bothers you so much. 4 years of hate is a long time.
11/11/2008 11:19:00 PM
Fuck u pal, a BIG FUCK YOU! Our President should be the MOST patriotic person in the country.....WHY????? Cause he's our leader that's why you bag! He should at the very least have an American flag pinned on his chest at all times when in the media and yes we should have a president that served in our armed forces. You assholes keep making this out to be a race issue and its not!!! I repeat........ITS NOT!!! He's a liberal non-military pres at a time when we cannot afford to have one as such. If love the man sooooo much then move to hyde park then or better yet......camp your liberal fat ass on the lawn of the white house and wait till his inaguration speech then you can clap your hands till your hearts content. And no I never did serve in the military but at least I PLACE MY HAND OVER MY HEART during the pledge of allegiance and star spangled banner unlike a certain person-elect about to hit office standing there with hands folded down at the waist. I love my country and our military.....do you! Does he???
If you perjured yourself, you would do time, right? It's time to hold everyone to the same standard.
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False Reports, and its only a Misd.
OFF TOPIC, BUT IMPORTANT! I had occasion to deal with that nitwit Birl Madden, the 011 midnights lockup keeper, who accused me of calling him an a$%hole. I never said a word, but he came right up to the bars of the waitin area and tried to get in my face. This guy has lost his mind and is try to coax someone into kicking his a@#! I wouldn't take the bait and strongly caution any Po who has to deal with this bunghole.
11/11/2008 10:32:00 PM
The same thing happened to me. He kept saying "If you're calling me an asshole i'm calling you and asshole." Over and over. Typical Westsider, which is where he lives.
LAPD has historically been a real chicken-shit outfit. Very high percentage of them never make it to collect that pension. they try to fuck with them so they quit. I remember reading some time ago, may have changed by now though, that they average copper only lasted 7 years out there. They cull the herd thru terminations, physical disability, etc.... The ones that make it to the end are blithering idiots who end up running up to Sandpoint, Idaho and build bunkers. LA blows and is not a place I would like to police.
After meeting & speaking with officers from NYC, LA, SF and Las Vegas I'm convinced CPD treats their officers with less respect & has the least amount of training provided.
I have 3 years on & I'm looking elsewhere. This is a great job but the city treats us like shit. And personally I can't believe some of the morons that have been hired.
Guys like "AZ" are functional morons but there are some people who are Chicago police officers who aren't fit to bag my groceries.
"Our soon to be Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America, President-elect B. Hussein Obama, does not have the common sense or desire to display the same American Flag."
So, in your America, everybody better show respect according to your standards, right?
Sorry, Charlie, only the best get to be StarKist.
Anonymous said...
You can see the difference, can't you counselor?
11/11/2008 08:43:00 AM
I always cringe when you guys call an attorney that. The proper term is "Counsel"...
11/11/2008 06:43:00 PM
No,it's cocksucker.
4 years of hate is a long time.
11/11/2008 11:19:00 PM
Whoh, Francis. Hate was never mentioned, until you brought it up, however, sadness was mentioned. I am sad that he has been elected, but I would not do anything drastic, as you suggest, and leave the greatest country in the world because of it. You seem to be quite excitable. Now put down the bazooka and chill out.
PIMPY,PIMPY,PIMPY.
Why don't you ask Ms. Duckworth if she feels slighted by President elect Obama non-wearing of a pin reflected in any way on his Patriotism.
Wrapping yourself so tightly in the flag is cutting off circulation& your post is such proof.
11/11/2008 11:45:00 PM
IDIOT, IDIOT, IDIOT.
You must be a total idiot. Ya think Duckworth would make that comment? Come on! Get serious, but you can bet she noticed he wasn't wearing the flag on such a special day.
You see, he is no longer an unknown community organizer, he is the President-elect. Like it or not, he is now a role model and his actions speak for all of us. He should have a flag pin on his lapel, if not everyday, on special days, and this was one special day. It was Veteran's Day. A Vet fought for your right to be an idiot. Thank them.
Enough already. The man isn't even the President yet, but he stood out in the rain with Duckworth and honored our fallen.
11/11/2008 11:19:00 PM
Check the tape. It wasn't raining when he was there with Ms. Duckworth. It wasn't even drizzling. And he's the President-elect for pete's sake and on Veteran's Day he should have honored the vets by wearing the flag, the flag they fought to defend. It is an important thing and he should have worn it, especially on Veteran's Day.
LAPD has much different pension system. If you are a memeber of LAPD you transfer your pension time to a different agency. You comparing apples and oranges.
Any chance to sue the CCSA Office for failure to prosecute? There HAS to be more that we can do?
No chance, unless you want to spend some money just to see what a case getting thrown out of court looks like.
10:11
Dittos my friend!
The residency rule violations are almost ALWAYS cop-ratting out-cop CR's.
Lets face facts, this is not our fathers police dept anymore.
In the past 20 years the only beefs I've had to answer (5) were all initiated by another officer.
Once again,
Thanks mark, your fop sucks
The FLOP should pressure Alvarez to arrest and prosecute one of the liars. She might listen. I'm sure FLOP gave her some of our money.
11/11/2008 07:37:00 PM
I swear to God, you guys are the most naive bunch of hopeful, wishing sycophants!!
Alvarez wouldn't swat a fly without the permission of the Daley/Osama corruption machine. The Daley/Osama corruption machine is completely anti-police. He is friends with AYERS and DOHRN!!
All you idiots that voted to exponentially increase the power of the Daley Crime Family now will reap what you have sown. Guaranteed, within 6 months of being sworn in (on a quran no doubt) Osama will deliver a sermon about police brutality, Daley and Alvarez will up the ante and police persecution in this "city" will ratchet up even higher. SCC, please, save this somewhere and repost it when the anti-law enforcement rhetoric heats up!!
If you work in IAD please do not use "us". You are insulting "us".
Enough already. The man isn't even the President yet, but he stood out in the rain with Duckworth and honored our fallen.
He's an American, plain and simple, like everyone else.
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And so our empire crumbles, not in a cloud of dust and debris, not by an overpowering violence from external enemies, but rather a slow and steady rotting from the inside out. RIP Democracy, fare well Old Glory. You were a shining light, a beacon of hope to others, and now have become a putrid mass because those living under your protection forgot to care, became lazy and weak and dependent. What a sad time, as I watch my country rot and fester and become a third-world socialist state.
"I love my country and our military."
ODDLY NOT PEEP,REGARDING CHICKENHAWK CHENEY THE COWARD W/5 DEFERRMENTS LAYING A WREATH@ THE TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER?
anonymous said...
At least we have FOP. Huh...Huh...Huh. Donahue and the boys are laughing all the way to the bank. Still no contract - no arbitration. When are they going to do something for us?
11/11/2008 07:24:00 AM
What makes you think they are not doing something every day? Suggestion: Ask someone who was here before we had a contract, before 1980, what it was like. Then ask them to compare that to now.
Negotiating team is meeting under a non-disclosure agreement. That means they can't talk about anything related to contract talks. No news is good news. I believe the FOP is in a very good position this time. These things never happen quickly. Just live your life, when it happens you will be notified.
thinking of leaving chicago said...
OT: Do you guys know anyone that has left the CPD to join the LAPD? I only have 3 years on and I am thinking of leaving this corrupt city...I hear LAPD has the 3/12 and 4/10 schedule and their pension is 96% funded!
11/11/2008 11:08:00 AM
You heard? From who, a friend of a friend who knows someone who said so?
Before you go, get a copy of their contract and read it. Especially the parts that say when you can use your seniority and for what.
Then take a week or so vacation in LA and go around to police stations and ask LAPD officers about their job. Specifically ask about working conditions, bosses, promotions and seniority rights. And don't forget medical issues, how long one can lay up with non-duty related sickness or injury, And how is their health insurance.
This is due diligence. Do your homework thoroughly before you make the jump.
Best wishes.
SCC, I've noticed you've stayed away from the Hudson murders.
But it appears that Balfour is guilty. Just like Jason Austin was guilty of the murder of Det. Soto.
What's going on here? Why aren't these cases closed w/ the offenders in prison?!
11/11/2008 01:12:00 PM
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Excellent post.
The CPD Detective Division no longer has the resources to solve murders when the offender wants a lawyer and witnesses/family members/citizens do not cooperate.
Physical evidence alone is not enough. It is difficult to get and even if it is found it only proves the defendant's presence. (Semen proves he fucked the victim/doesn't prove he killed her.)
Physical evidence is best used to prove or disprove what someone TELLS the police. The police can't force statements, no one believes what the police say, and ASA's refuse to enforce grand jury subpoenas or prosecute perjury.
The public wants every case in Cook Co. tried like a federal crime. Can't happen. Don't have the people, the time, the money, or the will.
There will be lots more cases that end up like the Soto and Hudson cases.
Like it or not, he is now a role model and his actions speak for all of us. He should have a flag pin on his lapel, if not everyday, on special days, and this was one special day.
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This is the only thing I have seen that I do respect about him. He is refusing to pretend he is patriotic, and is showing his true feelings of hatred for the USA as evidenced in his autobiographies.
At least he is being honest, for once. Though it is interesting, he refused to wear the flag early in the campaign, it was made an issue, he wore it as he was afraid of losing votes over his true feelings, now he is elected and stops wearing it again. Hmmmm.
FOP only blows our money on fired exempts (Burge) and NOT on real coppers.
Well said! Donahue and the fop are nuts.
"The (retired LAPD) that make it to the end are blithering idiots who end up running up to Sandpoint, Idaho and build bunkers." - 11/11; 6:58 PM
What's wrong with Sandpoint, ID?
I've been there.
Lake Pend Oreille, Coeur d'Alene and the Idaho Panhandle in general, is God's Country, particularly for the outdoorsman. Good schools, friendly people and it's virtually free of violent crimes committed by strangers.
Say what you want about ex-LAPD detective and now multimillionare author Mark Fuhrman. He was a world-class homicide dick who did something stupid and now enjoys the good life with his family in Northern Idaho.
Thinking of leaving Chicago said...
OT: Do you guys know anyone that has left the CPD to join the LAPD? I only have 3 years on and I am thinking of leaving this corrupt city...I hear LAPD has the 3/12 and 4/10 schedule and their pension is 96% funded!
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My friend think of Arizona as well, its a pro-police state where the cost of living is lower than LA area. They do take laterals and w/ 3yrs on you got nothing to lose. This place is terrible, wish I would of left to go elsewhere but now its too late. Good luck..
Thinking of leaving Chicago said...
OT: Do you guys know anyone that has left the CPD to join the LAPD? I only have 3 years on and I am thinking of leaving this corrupt city...I hear LAPD has the 3/12 and 4/10 schedule and their pension is 96% funded!
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Close to home -- Lake County (IL) Sheriff dept.
If you work in IAD please do not use "us". You are insulting "us".
STFU IAD helps way more coppers than they hurt, let's face it, there are alot of people on this jobn that shouldn't be, it's said on this blog constantly, so, someone has to do that job,not that i'm interested though...
A few comments:
1st, IAD is not our friends, but they do have a much needed job within our department. The problm is the feds and lawyers there now and before that tae the word of mickey the mope on everything and the need they have to try and get sustained numbers for their statistics. That's why they do these pimpy crs and give time---Statistics.
2nd. As far as I know, the CCSAO can not be sued for failure to prosecute. They have prosecutorial discretion when it comes to cases and limited civil immunity as a prosecutor.
3rd. Ret Lt. Fitzsimmons has a site "Sue the City .com" or something like that. He sues the city on behalf of police officers.
4th: You don't need the CCSAO to prosecute criminally. The Grand jury system (although run by an ASA) is a Cook County system that is not, by definition, an arm of the States' Attoney's Office. You can go to the grand jury with your evidence and witnesses (expect them to make you wait until the end of the day - get there by 0730-0800 so you are first) and proceed with your case. The grand jury can come back with a True Bill or not, depending on your case (you know the saying about a sandwich. Once it gets to court, the State can attempt to drop it, but the Judge could rule in your favor if you persist.
5th: I voted for Alvarez just because Tony is a fucking idiot. He killed me with the County Board election and the mob bullshit. That being said, she will not change anything. She was specifically asked if she would prosecute these liars and she took Milan's stance of, "I'm not touching that."
Anonymous said...
Good job done by all last night for missing 3 yr old girl. 16th dist video surveillance team captured images that led to the police of the 17th dist and the detectives finding the little girl safe & sound.
Great job.
11/11/2008 10:00:00 AM
Oh bullshit. I was there. The whackjob lady called in saying she 'found' the kid wandering in the alley.
Yes - alot of effort went into finding that little girl. No one denies that. 014, 016, 017 & 025 all had cars looking for her.
The kid was found when the nut who snatched her up called in 'info for the police', period.
STFU IAD helps way more coppers than they hurt, let's face it, there are alot of people on this jobn that shouldn't be, it's said on this blog constantly, so, someone has to do that job,not that i'm interested though...
...unless someone asked you to join, of course. Asshole.
food for thought.....if the public is not complaining about you.....but some misguided loser, er,I mean very disgruntled sworn member(s)put phony cr# on you; can I go for a civil judgement with the stipulation of a lien on their future wages in court? As I am certain I can prove their reporting to be phony and if I were to prevail;, I would not want to chase them for the money? Any one out there have this situation yet? I am tired of hearing how sorry these individuals are after they whack your reputation around for several months. seriously!
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Sounds like a domestic situation gone bad and if so leave it alone. IAD looks into everything`- phone records, calling other officers for statements, and every other way of violating your privacy. You and the officer(s) you got beef with.. and innocent officers / bosses involved.. will take time for any department violation. Not worth the headache or the money or getting other officers involved. Take it from a PO who went through an ugly divorce and had the same problem.
On her outer garment, Ms. Duckworth was proudly wearing an oversized lapel pin of the American flag composed of glittering red, white and blue rhinestones. It was beautiful and appeared to be approximately 4" across and 2" high. There was no doubt that Ms. Duckworth wanted to display her patriotism. On the other hand, Obama wore no pin of any kind or size on his outer garment as he placed the wreath.
11/11/2008 10:21:00 PM
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So, if I wear a 'beautiful' neon flag, studded with RHINESTONES (how wonderfully tacky), I'm more patriotic than you, who wears no such signage on your attire?
Patriotism is not shown by jewelry placed on one's outer garment, however loud, expensive or attention-grabbing. Patriotism is evidenced quietly, purposefully and respectfully.
Time will tell as to Obama's patriotism. I should think the act of swearing to the oath of office will indicate much as to his views of service and loyalty to this country.
This is a petty complaint from a small-minded individual.
Although he grieved it and got it back it still is beside the point. -----------------------------
I took time for an asshole Lt. who couldn't control himself on the street. They went after me rather than him and I took one for the team. Fact is, I was alone in the cold in the end. Don't be fooled. be true to yourself. They will forget about you soon. This isn't the old days.
SCC, I've noticed you've stayed away from the Hudson murders.
But it appears that Balfour is guilty. Just like Jason Austin was guilty of the murder of Det. Soto.
What's going on here? Why aren't these cases closed w/ the offenders in prison?!
11/11/2008 01:12:00 PM
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Excellent post.
The CPD Detective Division no longer has the resources to solve murders when the offender wants a lawyer and witnesses/family members/citizens do not cooperate.
Physical evidence alone is not enough. It is difficult to get and even if it is found it only proves the defendant's presence. (Semen proves he fucked the victim/doesn't prove he killed her.)
Physical evidence is best used to prove or disprove what someone TELLS the police. The police can't force statements, no one believes what the police say, and ASA's refuse to enforce grand jury subpoenas or prosecute perjury.
The public wants every case in Cook Co. tried like a federal crime. Can't happen. Don't have the people, the time, the money, or the will.
There will be lots more cases that end up like the Soto and Hudson cases.
11/12/2008 11:20:00 AM
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Remember bubblehead Weiss got on TV and said "we'll solve it" "we got 2 crime scenes now" and then he said something about having cameras, I guess he meant the pods - anyway, you never get on TV and say that - you say "we're working on it" oh ya, then he said since there was 2 crime scenes (where the car was found) that there was a great chance the ET of crime lab, would get prints or some other type of forensic evidence ... ya right, you goof, too much CSI ... crimes are solved by foot work not freakin' forensic evidence ... typical clueless fed -
FLOP lawyers can't win a game of tiddly winks. Their latest screw up allows IAD ordered breathalyzer results into evidence at criminal trials. No shit.
Anonymous said...
SCC
RE/advocate
I like the one were the officer got thirty days for not making an arrest for the university of Chicago security department.
now we have to kiss a private security guard companies ass.
Just like the security companies employed by the old cha and cta.
don't let these private law breaking militias ruin your career, arrest them with cross complaints..every one goes down
11/11/2008 11:28:00 PM
I wouldnt judge the actions of the U of C too harshly for filing a complaint against pos there. The 021st District has to be called out on the carpet every now and held accountable for all the blown off jobs they are part of. I was there for a short period of time and suspected alot of jobs/arrests being blown off or just loose paper just to not have to go to court. I had to go or get out of Police work. Pos can get hurt like that..... So 30 days might be a wake up call over there. Dont believe me? Ask Area 1 Detectives what they think about the District. I apologize to the small group of hard working Po's in 021 for being included in this general statement. The good ones know, or should know, who they are....
Time will tell as to Obama's patriotism. I should think the act of swearing to the oath of office will indicate much as to his views of service and loyalty to this country.
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I would think that his propensity to be untruthful would damper any indication of patriotism that could be drawn from him "swearing to the oath".
His association with such outspoken anti-Americans such as Ayers, Dohrn and "God Damn America" Wright, among a host of others, may speak louder.
I believe he has no loyalty, other than to his tremendous ego and his radical Marxist agenda.
...unless someone asked you to join, of course. Asshole.
Sorry, not my thing, I have spent my entire career working the jects and the ghetto.... so GFY
Sorry, not my thing, I have spent my entire career working the jects and the ghetto.... so GFY
What's a "jects"? Is it code for "had to scrape shit off mah shoe yestahday"? Good for u, Sparky. Can I FU after I GFM? I'll let you bring the scented candles this time...see you soon!
So, if I wear a 'beautiful' neon flag, studded with RHINESTONES (how wonderfully tacky), I'm more patriotic than you, who wears no such signage on your attire?
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Yeah, the way the rhinestones clashed with her two prosthetic legs, replacing the one's lost flying a helicopter in the Middle East was so very passe'.
Her politics suck, but you are a real asshole to denigrate her wearing of the flag. Both that Marxist egomaniac and you, my friend, should shut the fuck up and learn a lesson about patriotism.
11/12 650pm
You are correct ,was the subject of a CR# from po during a bad split up. Said CR# claimed I left items at this persons back door this person wrote a very moving statement of the fear she was in and IAD investigated this all on a confidential for months. Well lo and behold when I was served I had a document from another state proving I was there on the day this poor scared for her life po was so intimidated: meaning it was impossible for me to have left anything at the back door and this poor abused po had made the story up along with several other allegations all disproved during the investigation. Bottom line IAD and the department did nothing to this nut job for all the bullshit she pulled and believe me all you "experts" good luck finding a lawyer who will take a case like this to sue. IAD rats will never help you unless you have clout and IAD will sand bag you if they so choose.
"...STFU. IAD helps way more coppers than they hurt..."
OK--Give me one case. I'll wait.
This is a petty complaint from a small-minded individual.
11/12/2008 07:03:00 PM
No idiot. It is not being small-minded.
It was about the moment, the place, and respect for our Veterans. He was not just walking down the street, he was presenting a wreath at a Veteran's Memorial on Veteran's Day as the Commander-in-Chief elect for cripe sake.
I do not give a shit if he was wearing a flag pin before he got in front of the memoral or after he was done presenting the wreath.
I do not even give a shit if ever wears a flag pin, but he should show respect, not allegiance because he has none, during a few ceremonies every year, however the election is over and he will not wear it because his open disrespect is obvious to all but someone like you, but when he is pretending to honor the brave, he should wear the flag pin out of respect for the men and women that fought for the flag.
If he cannot even muster up enough courage and conviction to show that respect, why bother to show up at all? Fuck you and fuck him.
"university of Chicago security department"
There might be more to the story- the U of C 'security department' are actually sworn officers, many of them off duty P.O.s from the CPD- the guy might be at fault here- find out the story first.
"...STFU. IAD helps way more coppers than they hurt..."
OK--Give me one case. I'll wait.
11/13/2008 10:32:00 AM
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I'll give you one. Veteran officer gets nailed for residency in a western suburb. He's newly married and is living in his wife's suburban condo.
IAD investigator is ordered to fire him, based on positive surveilances. Investigator INVESTIGATES and learns the guy is only living there because he's rebuilding wife's bathroom because the upstairs neighbor flooded the place and the ceiling caved in. Investigator exonerates the officer and everyone lived happily ever after, selling the condo, moving back into the city after repairs were done and making it to pension.
"...Investigator ordered to fire officer..."
Since when can an investigator fire someone? Don't they simply make a finding with a recommendation and someone else determines the punishment?
"...Investigator exonerates officer...officer moves back AFTER repairing condo..."
Since when has the city been that kind to accuse someone and then say---OK. We're wrong. Move back in when you're done?
I call BULLSHIT on this case.
I'll give you one. Veteran officer gets nailed for residency in a western suburb. He's newly married and is living in his wife's suburban condo.
IAD investigator is ordered to fire him, based on positive surveilances. Investigator INVESTIGATES and learns the guy is only living there because he's rebuilding wife's bathroom because the upstairs neighbor flooded the place and the ceiling caved in. Investigator exonerates the officer and everyone lived happily ever after, selling the condo, moving back into the city after repairs were done and making it to pension.
11/13/2008 11:54:00 PM
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They will be eliminating half of I.A.D. You will be thrown to the wolves! Was that enough reasonable suspicion? My gosh we are out of inventory bags! What do you mean decaff is half off. These relief pool outcasts are so scary! Mommy! Mommy! If I tap my heels together I can come back to I.A.D. like Dorathy.
"...Investigator ordered to fire officer..."
Since when can an investigator fire someone? Don't they simply make a finding with a recommendation and someone else determines the punishment?
"...Investigator exonerates officer...officer moves back AFTER repairing condo..."
Since when has the city been that kind to accuse someone and then say---OK. We're wrong. Move back in when you're done?
I call BULLSHIT on this case.
11/14/2008 01:00:00 AM
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Believe what you want to believe. Why listen to the truth when the little voices in your head are telling you otherwise?
Don't know if the guy in question reads the blog. I think he worked in 008 back then.
Really, I guess it doesn't matter what YOU believe. What matters is that he got to keep his job.
"...Investigator ordered to fire officer..."
Since when can an investigator fire someone? Don't they simply make a finding with a recommendation and someone else determines the punishment?
I call BULLSHIT on this case.
11/14/2008 01:00:00 AM
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Investigators/Agents/whoever closes out the case... make the 'recommendation' for SEPARATION. That IS the punishment.
The only way someone else affects the punishment is if they don't concur with the closing officer's findings. Then they write their comments and investigatory findings up and send their commentary through chain of command along with the original documents.
Then the superintendent usually does whatever he damned well pleases, anyway. ;-)
>>>What's a "jects"? <<<
As in projects, as in housing projects, as in public housing projects.
As in The Henry Horner Projects
As in The Cabrini-Green Projects
As in The Ida B. Wells Projects
I could go on, and what is left of them today is nothing compared to what they were in the 70's-80's and early 90's.
Got the bad knees from running up all those stairs and I can still smell the urine anytime I get on any elevator.
But me and my partners kept each other safe, you do the same.
>>>It’s probably sitting there at your station, next to the new G.O. on Helicopters
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Get real. Instead of dazzling us with your prose, how about just answering the question?<<<
That is an accurate answer to the question, and if you can't dazzle them with your prose then you should write General Orders and leave the blog to us.
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