New Schedules Rolled Out
Anyone have reports on how it all went?
We heard that the overlap between shifts is resulting in cops sitting around the stations with no cars in one pilot program. In another, we've heard that since cops did (or didn't) have their days off prior to change day, there are a bunch of people MIA or working two-hour days or burning time to account for the new shifts.
Sounds like high comedy, but if it leads to the elimination of the sixth working day, we'll all look back and laugh some day.
We heard that the overlap between shifts is resulting in cops sitting around the stations with no cars in one pilot program. In another, we've heard that since cops did (or didn't) have their days off prior to change day, there are a bunch of people MIA or working two-hour days or burning time to account for the new shifts.
Sounds like high comedy, but if it leads to the elimination of the sixth working day, we'll all look back and laugh some day.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:15 AM
190 Comments:
Seiser can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
005 you lucky sons of bitches, first you get 10 hr day and now you get a great boss. Capt O'D thanks for everything, you will be missed in 006
10 hour day is the best thing this job has seen in a long time. City will like because will cut down on overtime. Cops will like because more time to spend with the family. It's a wim for us and a win for the city.....
It will be interesting to see how long the "There will be no watch commander between the hours of 0130 and 0530. The Desk Sergeant (can not be an actor) will be in charge of the staion and will call an adjoining district's W/C to approve arest reports/field turnovers etc..." I have a feeling it will take about 1 week for the shit to hit the fan in 005 and someone to grieve it in 020.
Order on LT's website.
"The only way anybody should work a ten hour day is if you are compensated at time and one-half for every hour after eight.
Ten hour days are a bad idea and they only benefit the City anybody who pushed for them is going to be sorry when they have to work them."
1/08/2009 10:56:00 AM
Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot.
I wish SO much that our district was one of the ones with the pilot programs... ANY pilot program.
This six straight days just kills me. Seems like i'm always working and then my days off go so fast that it's right back to the six straight. Just really takes its toll on ya after a while.
Guys/Gals in those pilot districts, please consider yourselves lucky and know that there are a lot of people out there that would love to be in your spots.
Although it'll probably be a pretty good working schedule, I'm wondering which of the 35th St geniuses came up with the 4&2 schedule that puts less officers on the street every watch but needed more vehicles assigned to the district? If that's the way the city does more with less than Daley will bankrupt this place within 3 years.
I must once again commend the powers-that-are for the 'think-tank' capabilities they possess. They implement a program/schedule/procedure with NO answers yet alone a modicum of common sense, logic or practical sense.
If anyone saw how the schedule overlaps on paper it was obvious as the 'what to do with this' problem that would arise and the typical 'it doesn't have to make sense, its department policy' showing like a beam of light in a London fog.
I wish the Weis would step up, access this stuff before it gets implemented and hold these 'think tank' persons accountable. If its just too stupid to look at, out on your ear. Don't come up with a solution that is a bigger problem, because that my friend is a WASTE of resources, time, and implementation and yet still A PROBLEM.
Well boys, here is the new schedule, and gosh darn if Helen Keller could recognize it doesn't make sense on paper and will make less sense in practice, but lets run with it. Sink or swim, we came up with the plan (obligatory back patting), we're not giving you any answers, not giving any new equipment, not giving any guidance, but gosh darn we gave you a schedule.
Won't the city just love the idea that we have tons of personnel assigned to work!!! Without ever knowing the truth that they're sure at work, but cannot do a damn thing.
Unions in New York had a lot of money with Bernie Madoff. In fact, one union, carpenters in syracuse, had all of their pension money with this guy. Now they have nothing.
10 Hour day!! we all should be so lucky to work that. Funny thing is it was already tried and voted on by the members who worked it and was approved by 95%. I hope this time it is not just wasted and taken away when all like it. Maybe that the prob? we like it.
"Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot."
Well, if you worked a ten hour day in Housing...you weren't really working a ten hour day. That was a mess and nobody was there for ten hours, or even close to it. So, I don't put much stock in your opinion of the ten hour day.
If the City wants it... and they do... it is only to benefit the City. Lower costs, less people is not good for us, though. Let the pilot Districts make the call after a prolonged test period. Let them speak at the Union meetings and answer the questions. One thing you can count on, it will cost you - less overtime, more expensive to take a day off, less court and more importantly less backup!
I'm no fan of the six day work week, but 10 hours on the street is a long time to be "on your toes". It seems dangerous and I am sure that aspect doesn't enter into the City's equation. They don't care about your safety.
I met with my Captain yesterday, and told him, "I understand how you made Captain. But how in hell did you get on the job?"
010 -
there is a full watch compliment for the 10 hr days(5th watch). Meaning 3.5 officers for ea. of the the 6 cars.(usually all cars up and only for the cars south of Cermak)
1st watch has avg 2.1 officers for ea. of thier cars. (many down beat cars and 1 man cars)
3rd watch has 2.2 officers for each car meaning the same (no rapids north of Cermak and one man beat cars)
and
2nd watch has 3.2 officers per car not bad extra cars on days!!!
Guess the commander in 010 is good at sending his already short manpower to the appropriate watches, (higher crime/busier) Probably be a Deputy soon!
Hopefully no one is IOD/medical/ RDO/Furlo on 1st or 2nd watches that would be very dangerous, O'yea forgot it is now overrun with PPOs cause its a training district w/ not enough FTO's. Another great officer saftey idea by the powers that be.
Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot.
1/09/2009 01:23:00 AM
And I worked in 018 during this time and I can tell you that YOU NEVER WORKED A FULL 10 HOUR SHIFT! Not once! Housing never did shit to begin with, but to act like you were there for even 8 hours on the 10 hour schedule is a joke! That unit was the worst ghost payroller in the city! Guess the jokes on me though, I could have bid there and had no integrity too.
"There will be no watch commander between the hours of 0130 and 0530. The Desk Sergeant (can not be an actor) will be in charge of the staion and will call an adjoining district's W/C to approve arest reports/field turnovers etc..."
The above poster is correct.
No W/C in 005...brilliant,just brilliant,not. Hmmm...let's take the W/C out of not only an AREA but one of,if not thee,busiest district in the city,at one of the busiest time of the day. Just brilliant
So your going to detail a lt. from another district to be a field lt. in 5 and 20. I guess the districts they are coming from don't need supervison. It's hard enough to find lt's to fill in as watch commanders already. So now your putting the Sgt in charge of a place like 5, it's one of the busiest desks in the city, now the desk sgt has to call other disticts to have things approved, ass-a-nine. The ones in 5 can probably handle it, but it shouldn't be all put on them.
This is due to the lt's trying not to let the city screw them over by taking contractual rights away, but for the increased amount of days off there could of been soem type of compromise. But it's kind of ridiculous the hoops being jumped thru, for what amounts to a lt. making about $40.00 to be an acting w/c.
So the 1st watches in area two, 3,4,6, and 22 don't have a managment lt., they are all bid, so anyone they send has to be paid time and 1/2 for the entire tour, quite a bit more than $40.
to 5 and 20, Sgt's and Lt's, good luck getting any time due...
Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot.
1/09/2009 01:23:00 AM
Of course they loved it in Housing, NOBODY ever worked a 10 hour shift.
There were ways around not staying the entire 10 hours, and that includes the Supervisors.
Why do you think Cline stopped it?
10 hour shifts don't work in 24 hour units, they just don't. If they really want to do something that works, put everyone on 12s like they do in LA and many other departments.
"I have a feeling it will take about 1 week for the shit to hit the fan in 005 and someone to grieve it in 020.
1/09/2009 12:52:00 AM"
The envy you have is overwhelming. One day it may come to a district near you. Unitl then Hypothetical Harry save the gloom& doom scenarios for your call-in comments to Rush.
yeah in housing you aswipes never worked a ten hour day
Lets stick together and make the 10hour work schedule work. This is our chance to get rid of a crap schedule that doesn't work for the rank and file. Lets finally stick together and make it happen!
"Anyone get carbines in the districts yet? We have racks in the station. They don't fit the carbines but they are racks."
We have 5 or 6 carbines in our radio room locked up next to the shotguns. Not sure if anyone has taken them out yet.
I WAS ONE OF THE PO'S THAT WAS M.I.A. I GOT A WAKE UP CALL FROM THE LT ASKING WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I SAID SLEEPING WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
HE WASNT TOO HAPPY WITH THAT ANSWER BUT HE GOT OVER IT AND DECIDED THAT I WOULD BE RDO FOR THE DAY.
There must be something in the water.
"The only way anybody should work a ten hour day is if you are compensated at time and one-half for every hour after eight.
Ten hour days are a bad idea and they only benefit the City anybody who pushed for them is going to be sorry when they have to work them."
1/08/2009 10:56:00 AM
Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot.
1/09/2009 01:23:00 AM
"...sorry for working them" You my friend are out of your mind. You probably didn''t even work the 10 hour days. The 10 hr work day was awesome!!!! I was off so much I didn't know what to do with myself. When those weekends came around - I took mini vacations. You must have no friends or no life, that is why you don't want to be off all those days. I can't believe that anyone would say 10hr work day is bad, especially since they probably never even worked it. Don't say it's bad until you have actualy tried it. I worked it and loved it. I noticed the people who don't like the 10hr work days are also the ones who can't stand to be home with their wives. GROW UP PEOPLE!!!
Hey people if you like the schedule don't say you like it say you hate it and it sucks that way the city will make mandatory for everyone.
The only thing that is really dumb about that 10 hr work schedule is the 5 tens in a row. If you think your tired after working 6 days in a row (48 hrs) wait til you work 5 days of 10 hr days (50 hrs).
4 on 2 off, makes more sense.
4 on 2 off doesnot put less officers on the street its the same as 6 on 2 off but you keep working 6 days jackass i will take the 4 on 2 off or 10hr days anytime over 6 days
TO ALL OF YOU ASSHOLES WHO ARE STILL DOWNING THE 10 HOUR DAY...NOBODY IS LISTENING TO YOU ANYMORE..."SHUT THE FUCK UP"..AND FADE AWAY OR RETIRE!!!!
025 RANT- Why does P.O. J.D. from third watch like to talk shit about his fellow co-workers? I mean the constant name calling, shit talking, etc...??? For a new guy with maybe two years on the job, maybe he should keep his mouth shut and learn from the older guys there!
So far the 4 day week is fantastic! The last hour or so, mids is out on the street at the same time, so there is little chance of a late job, which is great. It was a nice feeling to work one day and be 1/4 done with your week... The only hiccup is that no one wants to work the desk- it stays 6 on, 2 off and has been reduced to 2 pos (one does radios upstairs, one does everything else)... Still, there are growing pains with every change, and this certainly is for the better, in my opinion!
Everyone involved in the planning and implementation knew there would be bumps in the road. The only way to get this figured out was to get it in place and work it out. It is a schedule in progress, subject to tweaks and changes as problems inevitably come up.
There were problems with every major change, this is about the largest in many years. We finally have a chance to get rid of the hated 6/2 schedule to lets work together to fix the problems and make it workable. It is in all our interests to do so.
Anonymous said...
Although it'll probably be a pretty good working schedule, I'm wondering which of the 35th St geniuses came up with the 4&2 schedule that puts less officers on the street every watch but needed more vehicles assigned to the district? If that's the way the city does more with less than Daley will bankrupt this place within 3 years.
1/09/2009 04:09:00 AM
The 4/2 is the same overall as 6/3, same number of days worked per year, same amount of hours.
Is the 10 hour day really just 10hours, or do they add a half hour for lunch? If not, your only working an extra 1 1/2 hours a day, or 6 hours a week, to get 8 1/2 hours off, not counting the commute for one day. Once your at work, what's an extra hour and a half? Who cares if you sit around the station for awhile if your on the clock?
I'm currently on the 0-hours-a week-send-me-my-money-on-the-first schedule, but a ten hour day sounds pretty good. I would have given my left nut for it when I was "working."
By the way, what's with that retired secret service guy who bragged that the secret service is trained to run toward the sound of gun fire? Who in their right mind would eat a bullet for Richie?
Or use their body to build a protective wall around Blago? Or bite the big one for BHO? Where do they find these soft-balls?
i hope they pass 4 on 2 off can't beat that. i know alot of guys including myself who are just misrable on that 6th day. especially when you get to look forward to court on the 7th day! argh!!!
"Cops will like it because more time to spend with the family. "
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It's NOT MORE TIME with your family.. you work the same number of hour a year however you work about 52 days less a year.
I work the 10 hour day and I am happy with it HOWEVER.. my kids get out of school at 2:45PM and I'm out the door to work at 3:00PM (instead of leaving at 5:00PM)
I NEVER see them on my work days.
To say the least, I live for my days off so I can be with my kids.
AND as far as cars..
there are NO cars available from 4PM until 6PM when the 10AM-6PM rapid response cars get off work.
Our district notified downtown of this upcoming problem back in early December however they have their heads up their asses as usual.
THAT'S OK WITH ME though...
the city can pay me $40.00 @ hour to sit on my ass and play solitaire.
The city should have asked other jurisdictions with the same schedules how they implemented it. Don't just come up with nutty ideas.
give them a chance to work the kinks out. you are not dealing with geniuses here. although one would thinmk it would not take a genius to figure out a schedule like this.
The first night for Midnights in 005 they had only 5 cars up for the entire DISTRICT for the entire tour! Glad no one was hurt.
Fuck you Mark D. You said we would lose no manpower. You lied to our faces... You will be sorry.
Anonymous said...
10 hour day is the best thing this job has seen in a long time. City will like because will cut down on overtime. Cops will like because more time to spend with the family. It's a wim for us and a win for the city.....
1/09/2009 12:52:00 AM
Yes, thank you for your input on the blog, you members of the Super's Policy Group.
Your transparent postings are always a welcome contrast from those posted by people who actually work for a living.
A 10 hour schedule sound great if you work in 020 or TRU. But in 005? Your gonna be running from job to job, I don't want to imagine how the summer is gonna be. I think the schedule that 008 has sounds good though
Capt O'D thanks for everything, you will be missed in 006
Uh, not really. Stroke.
4 & 2 schedule......
Since some complete idiot decided to change the start times on the 1st watch to 2100 and 2230, here is the result.
. since there is a 90 minute overlap with the 3rd watch 15 more cars are needed. (only 11 delivered)
. the average milage on the cars is 90,000. No cameras, No PDTs or Mounts, several have no heat and bald tires and the blue lights don't work
. Not enough radios
meanwhile, the regular cars which are fully equipped with new PDTs and expensive camera systems sit in the parking lot collecting snow for 7 hours every day unused.
WHO'S RUNNING THIS DEPARTMENT ANYWAY????
It will be interesting to see how long the "There will be no watch commander between the hours of 0130 and 0530. The Desk Sergeant (can not be an actor) will be in charge of the staion and will call an adjoining district's W/C to approve arest reports/field turnovers etc..." I have a feeling it will take about 1 week for the shit to hit the fan in 005 and someone to grieve it in 020.
1/09/2009 12:52:00 AM
I never heard midnights take any calls last night while I was working.
If there are not enough cars then how about more foot patrols? Lots of guys on the job could use the exercise.
And on the seventh day G-d rested.....
I did a full year of 10 hour days back when it was a pilot program in 2004 I believe. I was never happier. The last two hours take some getting used to, however, all the days off were FANTASTIC! For all the guys who never tried it but bad mouth it- lets play SHUT THE HELL UP as you have no idea what you are talking about! Screw the 6-3 program, screw the 4-2 as well! 10 hour days for everyone and even the ghetto will seem like a happy home!!!
10 hour days.... change you can believe in!
10 hours days might be ok, **IF** the hours were better.
3rd watch is 1600 - 0200 and 1700 - 0300. Terrible.
Why not 1-11 or 2-12 or 3-1?? Nobody wants to work 5pm to 3 am. Nobody.
OTT. look for Blago to commit suicide. Even if he wants to testify against Obama and Daley it will never happen. King Richie is the most powerful politician this country has ever seen. If in fact this city is run by the mob do you really believe they would let this weasel take them down. I dont believe in conspiracy theories but Daley truly is untouchable and the democratic party would never let anything tarnish the king of change (Obama).
6 on three off. 1/2 hour more a day. not bad so far
Guys/Gals in those pilot districts, please consider yourselves lucky and know that there are a lot of people out there that would love to be in your spots.
1/09/2009 02:18:00 AM
You can have it. 10 hour days 3rd watch hours sucks.
You think you are wiped. Wait til the 5th 10 hour day!
to pos who like to be a little early, to settle in before facing the bs, the 10 hour day will seem like a 12 hour day if you add an hour on each end for:
prep time at home, travel, loose ends, bs-ing with friends after work, etc.
time will tell.
If it's such a great idea why not put all city employees on the 10 hour work day?
win win??? you coo koo bastard
in 018 they have the 4-2 schedule. the 1st watch will have a brand new batch of cars since their schedule start times overlap 3rd watch. but get this. all the cars will NOT have PDT's, no cameras AND no cages! good luck midnights!
Seiser's tears cure cancer. Too bad he's never cried.
Regardless of what is best for YOU, overall the elimination of the 6th straight working day is GREAT. Plus you get more days off a year to be with your family! Sign me up.
Off topic.
Shooting at Belmont/Keeler last night. Burgandy Cherokee with offender chased into 014 where Sgt immediatley calls off chase, 017 picks up car and is told to end chase by a screaming sgt filled with panic three times. Does anyone have balls left. Shooter in vehicle was seen laughing getting away. So proud to be CPD.....
"It's a wim for us and a win for the city.....
1/09/2009 12:52:00 AM"
Typo or Freudian slip?
Missy here again.
Thanks to Mr/Miss SCC, I shall not be posting any longer SLUGS.
Miss SCC have deleted most of my posts. This all because I am the mayor's parking ticket GURU.
You will not have Missy to kick around any longer people.
I bid you all a S.T.F.U. farewell.
Missy ??? district/unit
after working my first day of 10hrs in 020, i have to say its great! everything went smooth and im looking forward to my 3 days off and 4 day weekends. Only a goof would say the 10hr day sucks or your homelife sucks that bad that u hate being home! I hope this schedule stays a long time
If I hear another person say "when I was in housing it was GREAT, I'll puke".That was BEFORE G.P.S. and BEFORE WEIS AND BEFORE A HUGE MANPOWER SHORTAGE.It will suck and cost tons of cops their marriages due to the stress of running their wifes around to get the kids.This was a bad idea from the get go,all we need to do is eliminate the 6th day and deal with the loss of the 2 3 day weekends.Unions in this country FOUGHT FOR THE 8 HOUR DAY FOR A REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SSC I WANT NAPERVILLE'S SCHEDULE 12HRS DAYS AND EVERY OTHER WEEKEND. NOW LETS GO OUT THERE AND SHOW THEM HOW TO DO REAL POLICE WORK. ALSO THE MIGHTY SEISER WANTS 12HR DAYS TOO.
Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot.
1/09/2009 01:23:00 AM
The only difference is that 10 hour days in patrol are going to be 10 hours, not the 7-8 that you worked in housing.
Talking about schedules (off topic)
How the heck do you land a job, where you can just come and go as you please, and not be accountable for it? Doesn't everyone else have to work eight hour days, whether inside a squad car or not? I know I do. Well, anyway, such is the case with the 019 District CAPS office beauty queens, K.S. & M.G. It's like a magic show. Sometimes you see them, and sometimes you don't (but more times, don't). Oh sure, they walk around the station for a while, but then, POOF! Gone for the rest of the day. But you've got to hand it to them, they do put in t/d slips, when someone happens to check-up on them, for not being around the whole day. So I guess that's OK. Pretty nice gig, though, going to just a few beat meetings a month and doing whatever you want the rest of the time. Must be nice.
Isn't it great - let's eliminate the 6th working day by making us work 6 - nine hour days with 3 off.
WTF
SSC OFF TOPIC JUST RENTED AN EXCELLENT DVD MOVIE (RIGHTOUS KILL ) COP MOVIE STARRING TWO GREAT ITALIAN AMERICAN ACTORS , ROBERT DENIRO AND AL PACINO. BOTH ACADEMY AWARD WINNERS. REMEMBER BOB AND AL YOU MAY BE ACADEMY AWARD WINNERS BUT THE CPD HAS IT OWN ACADEMY AWARD WINNER (THE MIGHTY SEISER,).
Hey! Now that we have all the Commanders,Captains, Lieutenants and Sergeants micromanaging and paranoid of losing their spots..........Let them do it all....right!!!????
I do think its fun to watch them scramble over the senseless bullshit and act like its serious shit out here!! I seen some real screwballs!
Half of these bosses we interact with were papershuffling non-aggressive police officers back in their day and now they are trying to ACT like they DID shit when everyone who knows them knows otherwise......EXCEPT JODY who only picked hem because they had IAD or schooling or was trusted to someone in that position....whatever!
Keep fooling em!
Bullshit numbers, missions.....etc.
The REALITY:
NOBODY IS GOING TO PRISON ANYMORE BUT CPD politicians, white collar criminals etc. etc.!
The shit heads of VIOLENCE are winning because it is easier to hang someone that exists on paper I guess!
Look at the JAIL population here and court calls....
Its also REVENGE OF THE NERDS in our department and DUDE knows it and sees it. WE are getting soft....just look at us!!! They are and they see we are afraid of trouble and not interacting like we used to to own the streets!
There are some REAL jagbag COLD killing shithead motherfuckers outside there and we are playing "get the mission numbers with JODY to impress him"!
I think he might be more impressed if we started getting convictions on some serious felons.
Of course also taking the guns off the streets, ticketing or DUI'ing those that NEED it to create REAL numbers, parkers, curfews whatever bullshit, whatever, blah blah! That comes too!
To do it right you need to KEEP TRACK OF CONVICTIONS not arrests you NERDS then you will tell who is who in our department!
We all know the problem here was the complaints and CR's and lawsuits that have overwhelmed societies opinion of us and cost the City to pay out whatever and it has screwed us into getting JODY. Well it is what it is....
I also know the City is insured against liable and there probably is a cap on the funds for when police and fire fuck up and that is why the Command is tight on us and we can't run wild getting jammed up. We need to use our heads....
Dude beefs Dude sues Dude don't do shit Dude is the enemy Dude kills Dude this Dude that...
Use our heads but JAM DUDE UP and take it back! At least in our neighborhoods...
I am sure also like anything else WE generally fuck shit up beyond repair especially if we don't use our heads today when dealing with this fucked up world we have on the streets!
This isn't a RAH RAH message but realistically we all need to try to "go with the times" here and use our heads.
I know we haven't had a raise but what happens if we get one?
I know we all hate Jody.....but what happens if we get a new Sup and he is a good one?
ARE WE GOING BACK TO WORK?
Some of you guys I doubt it and some probably have never stopped working . Hell some never did shit anyways.... Some don't give a fuck!
Fact is we bitch and moan and whine and act like everybody owes us. I think we need to prove our worth everytime out! At least that is what I preach to my kids in their sports and school work!
I for one still don't trust anyone and don't want to get jammed up but there are shitheads taking over neighborhoods like where we live because the police have become less proactive and stopped "looking into things further"
Police do not sit back on DUDE and shut him and his operations down anymore for fear of perjury or whatever. Just do it right.!
But we shouldn't stop doing it altogether or DETROIT is what we WILL become and WE have to live in it!
Sorry for the rant...
Just would like to know where this job is going and I think it is up to us to use our heads out here after we get our raisies.
Also whether or not we are EXTREMELY happy with our COMMAND staff wherever we work or just ingeneral, we just should try to make some sort of effort for the good of things in the streets and the safety of our families and co-workers out here.
In other words, we really should try to eliminate some of the shit that has festered over the last several years!
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013th district's new program sucks...6 nine hour days with 3 off... Now the 6th day is even longer !!! I'm bidding out
i worked the 10 hour day when it was a pilot program for area 5 rapids and loved it.
3 day weekends every week. 4 day weekends every 5th, 6th, and 7th week.
it was great.
"Seiser can lead a horse to water AND make it drink."
I met this guy at CHA special a few months back. Struck me as nothing special. Enough already, I believe Chuck Norris already covered most of this.
"The only way anybody should work a ten hour day is if you are compensated at time and one-half for every hour after eight.
Ten hour days are a bad idea and they only benefit the City anybody who pushed for them is going to be sorry when they have to work them."
1/08/2009 10:56:00 AM
You are a real ass wipe !
My vote is for the 10 hr day! I love it!!!!!!
Ten hour days would kill people with kids. I would have to sleep less and spend less time at home for 5 days straight! Then would spend days off recovering instead of enjoying time with family. I hope is does not happen.
What is going on in 011? You got people bitching about coppers jamming up other coppers at the desk.
You got Tricky, being Tricky.
You got AZ off his meds, or is he on his meds?
Does anybody even want to work there anymore? 011 has really gone down hill in the last few years!
To those of you working the 10 hour days, you are lucky. Chicago is practically the only city still working 6/2 which sucks. I have had contact with small and large departments and they all love the 10 hours. Don't give me the bs about 10 hours on the west side or in Englewood, I would rather have the extra days off! Dont be resistant to change. Studies have shown that medical use increases on the 6th day along with brutality etc.
008th dist is still working 6 days with three days off,9 hrs.a day.I thought the idea was to get rid of the sixth day???
Well hopefully those who wanted the 10 hour day are satisfied now. The City is NOT your friend and can care less about your mental well being or physical health. It all boils down to $$$$.
Hey Housing Dickhead....I've spoken with several po's who worked in housing to which they replied, "It was a fucking joke, it's like hanging out with your buddies for 8hrs. Not a once did they work a 10 hr day and did they handle a large volume of calls like 008 handles. So until then i suggest you grab a weapon. I dont give a damn what you think you're entitled to. Would you like to be on the receiving end of a fucked up call at the 9 hr mark with some fuckstick you just had to put up with at work? I don't fucking think so!! Do us all a favor and shot your fucking pie-hole
Hey SCC can you use that "crystal ball" of yours to give me the winning numbers in Tuesday nights mega millions game?
I only ask this because of your uncanny ability to see into the future.
Example:
Only months after 3 subjects from North Lawdale college prep, stole paddle boats, than promptly drown themselves on the fox river, the first lawsuit has been filed in Crook County court.
You called this back in November.
Nice going..oh great one!
Someone call a detective. Who's kids tuition did the Chicago Police Memorial Fund pay to the tune of 15K or so? Why did they pay this tuition. The parent in question was not a line of duty death NOR was it duty related injury. Who the hell gets to decide these things? Hey Memorial fund. I am a cancer patient, can you pay my kids tuition too? Am I not connected to anyone who runs it. I say BULLSHIT. Wait til someone scoops this.
i work in 008 and we work an 8.5 hour work day and still work 6 days. watch my words the city will keep us on this dumb ass 6 day work week
10hrs great if not working afternoon-and have a family...
Those of you who want to bitch about your extra 50 days off a year, well I'm not even gonna call you names. You're griping about no cars:
Here's what an 8 hour district is dealing with: NONE of the school officers have cars, tactical officers are riding 4 deep and having to work superbly weird hours just to be able to pass the cars to the next tact teams that will be riding 4 deep, _06 teams with no cars standing around the district because their pool car was taken back by the area, Rapid cars? what's that.
You want screwed up, go work in this busy southside district that these situations screw up and try to figure out why I STILL love this job. It's screwed up, but we have great bosses, from the Commander to the Sergeants, GREAT.
Thank you, Jody for giving us this Commander and shipping the old one out. You might be a screw up, but this is one time you did alright!
Now, get the powers that be to get us some cars...we can use a couple I've seen you riding around in, don't know why you need so many different cars/SUV's anyway!
I saw a funny line in, of all places, Streetwise.
I was bored on the train and someone left it lying on the seat.
It was a play on words, taken from Dunkin Donuts tag-line, "America runs on Dunkin".
Instead it say's "America(schools)runs on(Arne)Duncan.
Obviously,in reference to his appointment as U.S. Secretary of Education and the CPS scandal involving the purchase of very expensive cappaccino machines without competitive bids.
Hey it's the chicago way!
Now I just heard on the radio that 5 CPS students (all future surgeons) have been shot inside Dunbar H.S. on the south side.. typical. These goofs have no coping skills.
It's probably because someone accidentally scuffed dude's air jordan gym shoes!
Good work chalkie!
I'm sure Daley, and Duncan won't be taking any blame. These assholes only take the credit, but when shit goes bad, they always blame others! Again..it's the chicago way!
Chalkie for Mayor!
Anonymous said...
SSC OFF TOPIC JUST RENTED AN EXCELLENT DVD MOVIE (RIGHTOUS KILL ) COP MOVIE STARRING TWO GREAT ITALIAN AMERICAN ACTORS , ROBERT DENIRO AND AL PACINO. BOTH ACADEMY AWARD WINNERS. REMEMBER BOB AND AL YOU MAY BE ACADEMY AWARD WINNERS BUT THE CPD HAS IT OWN ACADEMY AWARD WINNER (THE MIGHTY SEISER,).
1/09/2009 03:46:00 PM
Are you kidding? The movie sucked!
I really wish the Old timers who are SCARED of change would give the 10 hour days an honest chance.
The city will judge which schedule is better by which one shows the most increase in productivity. so whichever one is best, go out and make arrests, write tickets etc. and we get the good schedule. Than back to situation normal.
Then, when we get a 3% raise for the year, we will see it disappear when Governor Quinn doubles the Illinois State Income Tax from 3% to 6%.
That is coming so don't be too shocked. Quinn wants to double the Income tax so expect, after a fight, maybe it only goes up to 4% or 5% but be sure it IS going up.
Other states nearby have 6% state income tax already. We have to be very careful not to lose the income tax exemption for retired law enforcement officers. A raise in the state income tax will make the exemption for PO's that much more valuable.
Thank God I only have a few more years of this.
Someone call a detective. Who's kids tuition did the Chicago Police Memorial Fund pay to the tune of 15K or so? Why did they pay this tuition. The parent in question was not a line of duty death NOR was it duty related injury. Who the hell gets to decide these things? Hey Memorial fund. I am a cancer patient, can you pay my kids tuition too? Am I not connected to anyone who runs it. I say BULLSHIT. Wait til someone scoops this.
1/09/2009 08:07:00 PM
I HOP THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!! IF SO THATS COMPLETELY FUCKED UP...
"Must be nice.
1/09/2009 03:25:00 PM"
You fail to consider what these two have had to do, and still have to do, when they're not within your field of vision.
It can't be a pretty sight, not if you're reasonably close, more or less, to 'normal'.
Anonymous said...
in 018 they have the 4-2 schedule. the 1st watch will have a brand new batch of cars since their schedule start times overlap 3rd watch. but get this. all the cars will NOT have PDT's, no cameras AND no cages! good luck midnights!
YES!!! THIS IS GREAT!!! No cameras to record me sleeping, no pdt to power the gps, and no cage so I can lean waaaay back. 4 on, 2 off, no camera, gps, or cage!!! SWEEEEETTT!!
I work 4 days in a row. F O U R. It's really really nice. Nine hours is just about as long as I can stomach, so I think that those who are pushing 10 hours are a little off, and those who mention 12 hours need to seek professional help. STOP looking at how much time you get off with a ten hour sechedule... why would I want to suffer through 50 hours for time off?? START looking at your work experience... 4 days, then done. Time off comes real quick, real often. I just worked my second day in a row, and MY WEEK IS HALF OVER!!! So sweet....
Man, you weren't kidding, "Rightous Kill" sucked BIG TIME. What a shame....all that high priced talent in that movie, and a crappy script, totally unbelievable plot. Don't waste your money renting it, it is definitely worth a wait to cable.
Even then, I'd pass on it.
DeNiro, Pacino and Dennehy must really be bored in their old age.
Anonymous What a joke. said...
Off topic.
Shooting at Belmont/Keeler last night. Burgandy Cherokee with offender chased into 014 where Sgt immediatley calls off chase, 017 picks up car and is told to end chase by a screaming sgt filled with panic three times. Does anyone have balls left. Shooter in vehicle was seen laughing getting away. So proud to be CPD.....
1/09/2009 02:03:00 PM
Typical northside pussy bosses!
_"06 teams with no cars standing around the district because their pool car was taken back by the area, Rapid cars? what's that."
06 Cars are the suckholes.
Put their asses in the Lockup or anwsering phones& writing traffic crash reports. You are a F'ng Goof personified. Have a nice big chunk of cheese with your WHINE BITCH !
What a joke. said...
Off topic.
Shooting at Belmont/Keeler last night. Burgandy Cherokee with offender chased into 014 where Sgt immediatley calls off chase, 017 picks up car and is told to end chase by a screaming sgt filled with panic three times. Does anyone have balls left. Shooter in vehicle was seen laughing getting away. So proud to be CPD.....
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Yet another 3 year wonder puts in his two cents worth. Did this offender shoot you, your partner, anyone in your family, or anyone in your partner's family? No? Then who the fuck cares?! You obviously have no kids, no investments, no properties or no common sense. Fuckin' 'tard! Figure it out, dummy.
Anonymous said...
What is going on in 011? You got people bitching about coppers jamming up other coppers at the desk.
You got Tricky, being Tricky.
You got AZ off his meds, or is he on his meds?
Does anybody even want to work there anymore? 011 has really gone down hill in the last few years!
1/09/2009 06:11:00 PM
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TAKE IT EZ 1154 AND 1122. YOURE WAY TO OBVIOUS
Here's what an 8 hour district is dealing with: NONE of the school officers have cars, tactical officers are riding 4 deep and having to work superbly weird hours just to be able to pass the cars to the next tact teams that will be riding 4 deep, _06 teams with no cars standing around the district because their pool car was taken back by the area, Rapid cars? what's that.
**NOT your problem. The shortage of cars & equipment is something the DEPARTMENT will have to fix.
Give the schedule change attempts a chance. At least someone is trying something.
Most of us won't admit it, but, more consecutive days off is more important than two days here, two days there. It gives those of us who work other employment a chance to work an extra day AND actually have two or more days off. More consecutive days off gets my vote...whichever schedule result in that.
8th District and 13th District 8 1/2 hr 6 -3 schedule!
WHAT I SUGGEST IS ONLY A 1/2 HR OVERLAP WITH THE WATCH CHECKING OFF AND THE ONE STARTING BUT DURING THIS TIME EACH WATCH WILL BE EITHER AT CHECK OFF OR AT ROLL CALL. WITH THIS SCHEDULE THERE WOULDNT BE A NEED FOR ANY NEW CARS OR EXTRA RADIOS. ALSO THE DESK AND LOCK-UP CAN ALSO ROTATE ON THE SAME SCHEDULE AS THE WATCH (6 ON AND 3 OFF) WITH THE SCHEDULE THAT I PROPOSE BELOW.
EARLY CARS
DAYS
06:00 HRS. TO 15:00 HRS. AND GO IN AT 14:30 HRS. FOR CHECK OFF.
AFTERNOONS
14:00 HRS. TO 23:00 HRS. AND GO IN AT 22:30 HRS. FOR CHECK OFF.
MIDNIGHTS
22:00 HRS. TO 07:00 HRS. AND GO IN AT 06:30 HRS. FOR CHECK OFF.
LATE CARS
DAYS
07:00 HRS. TO 16:00 HRS. AND GO IN AT 15:30 HRS. FOR CHECK OFF.
AFTERNOONS
15:00 HRS. TO 0000 HRS. AND GO IN AT 23:30 HRS. FOR CHECK OFF.
MIDNIGHTS
23:00 HRS TO 08:00 HRS AND GO IN AT 07:30 HRS FOR CHECK OFF.
DESK AND LOCK-UP: 1/2 HR OVERLAP WITH THE WATCHES PRIOR
DAYS - 05:30 HRS TO 14:00 HRS 1/2 HR.
AFTERNOONS - 13:30 HRS TO 22:00 HRS 1/2 HR.
MIDNIGHTS - 21:30 HRS TO 06:00 HRS 1/2 HR.
The longer the day is, the more it will cut into your court time and OT. This really isn't about you people, it's all about the $.
Won't the city just love the idea that we have tons of personnel assigned to work!!! Without ever knowing the truth that they're sure at work, but cannot do a damn thing.
**who cares? I'm getting paid!
Off topic.
Shooting at Belmont/Keeler last night. Burgandy Cherokee with offender chased into 014 where Sgt immediatley calls off chase, 017 picks up car and is told to end chase by a screaming sgt filled with panic three times. Does anyone have balls left. Shooter in vehicle was seen laughing getting away. So proud to be CPD.....
1/09/2009 02:03:00 PM
Typical northside pussy bosses!
Probably 1410 3rd watch---he won't stay off the radio for 5 minutes----hey softball you are the only supervisor I have ever heard go down on lunch. BRING BACK THE REAL 1410 SGT HARTE
10 HOURS IS GREAT.. 52 MORE DAYS OFF. P-DAYS WORTH 10 HOURS. 3 DAYS OFF EVERYTIME YOUR DAYS OFF ROLL AROUND. NO LONGER WAITING 5 WEEKS FOR 3 DAYS OFF. BONUS, WHEN YOUR WEEKENDS DO ROLL AROUND YOU HAVE 4 DAYS OFF, AND I'LL BE OUTTA HERE FOR THOSE TAKING LOTS OF MINI-VACATIONS.
The 10 hour schedule blows the rest out of the water. 2 extra months off the year, add your furlough and B & P days, holidays and you'll be off a half the year.
OT but speaking of calling off chases what about the Watch Commander in 015(believe 2nd watch)shots fired at the police and by the police.Ya'll needs to terminate that chase, thank god for Deputy Rivera monitoring the air and telling them go on with it.What the Fuck kind of bosses do we have that say we can't chase when we're shot at!!!!WTF.Bad guy caught weapon recovered,believe charged with attempt murder
"Seiser can lead a horse to water AND make it drink."
I met this guy at CHA special a few months back. Struck me as nothing special. Enough already, I believe Chuck Norris already covered most of this.
1/09/2009 05:34:00 PM
i thought it was all hype too until one brisk autumn day in 025 many moons ago i saw seiser truly run it and ever since then i was a true believer
Off topic.
Shooting at Belmont/Keeler last night. Burgandy Cherokee with offender chased into 014 where Sgt immediatley calls off chase, 017 picks up car and is told to end chase by a screaming sgt filled with panic three times. Does anyone have balls left. Shooter in vehicle was seen laughing getting away. So proud to be CPD.....
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Well he didn't get so far.. he got picked up in 014 today.
"The only way anybody should work a ten hour day is if you are compensated at time and one-half for every hour after eight.
Ten hour days are a bad idea and they only benefit the City anybody who pushed for them is going to be sorry when they have to work them."
1/08/2009 10:56:00 AM
Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot.
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I worked in housing, and i agree the ten hr schedule is grrrreat
Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot.
1/09/2009 01:23:00 AM
Mhhh, ten hour days in the summer on an afternoon rapid in 004, 005 or 006 sounds good to you? Sleeping through a ten hour tour in housing is one thing, but WORKING a ten hour day and then going to court and then doing ANOTHER ten hour day is another thing altogether. One thing I am sure about is that you never had to do 10 consecutive hours of "work" on any day you were in housing.
And I worked in 018 during this time and I can tell you that YOU NEVER WORKED A FULL 10 HOUR SHIFT! Not once! Housing never did shit to begin with, but to act like you were there for even 8 hours on the 10 hour schedule is a joke! That unit was the worst ghost payroller in the city! Guess the jokes on me though, I could have bid there and had no integrity too
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The fighting 018??(Yawn)- Many of you guys never ventured into the Green. Hell, you guys would take the long way around into your station just to avoid it - so stop tryn to make yourself feel better by hatting on the coppers that actually worked there...
Someone call a detective. Who's kids tuition did the Chicago Police Memorial Fund pay to the tune of 15K or so? Why did they pay this tuition. The parent in question was not a line of duty death NOR was it duty related injury. Who the hell gets to decide these things? Hey Memorial fund. I am a cancer patient, can you pay my kids tuition too? Am I not connected to anyone who runs it. I say BULLSHIT. Wait til someone scoops this.
1/09/2009 08:07:00 PM
I HOP THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!! IF SO THATS COMPLETELY FUCKED UP...
What about our pension fund? Now they are trying to give it to the widow/widowers (even if they remarry). I don't know about the rest of you, but if my old lady gets remarried, I don't want to support the new dude. If we live into our older years and she survives me, I hope she is taken care of. But imagine if my young wife (no kids), remarries some guy and my pension is their main support. I call bullshit. Also, if our pension fund is so willing to find more ways to distribute more and more often and also let Daley's clan dip in, we are in BIG TROUBLE.
Holy More to Come Batman!!!
Nothing like a cluster fuck to perk up the day.
The Sun shines brightest on those who wait.
OK, without getting into the merits of one schedule over another, for the moron who never learned fractions: a 6&2 schedule (our present schedule) has 7 DOGs and means 2/7 of the watch is off each day; with a 4&2 or 6&3 schedule (see 008, 013, 014 or 018) 6 or 9 DOGs mean either 2/6 or 3/9 (reduced to 1/3, dipshit) of the watch is off each day. 1/3 is bigger than 2/7, therefore the new schedules have less people working each day. In fact on days, that's 1 or 2 cars less. You decide if that's a safety or service issue.
Forget college, maybe some people just need to complete high school.
The longer the day is, the more it will cut into your court time and OT. This really isn't about you people, it's all about the $.
1/09/2009 11:57:00 PM
Good they can keep the hours because by the time I get ready and get there I have already spent an hour and a half plus travel time back I am really going to court for free for the first 2 hours. I honestly dont like when I have court on my day off, unless it is going to trial and I am going to be there for 6 plus hours.
Second, time off with the family (i.e. 4 day weekends) to go places and do things is MUCH more important to me than a couple hour of court time on my day off.
I am perfectly happy with the 6 hour schedule I am working now. I am not over-stressed and it has taken me 25 years to figure out how to do it right now don't mess this up on me.
I get a good breakfast or coffee with roll in the morning, conversation with the neighborhood folks mid morning, a nice lunch or more conversation round noon time, a little nap in the afternoon and a redlight mover every other day and then more conversation in the afternoon before gassing up and going in. Oh, and a car wash weekly and one bus check a day.
Now don't anyone try to fuck this up, you hear? And for God sake, don't even think of giving me one of those military rifles hanging in the district! Jesus H. Christ, I turned mine in to Uncle years ago! If my six shooter can't handle it I will call fucking SWAT or the National Guard.
Now leave me alone with this schedule change bullshit, my routine is all set and I like things just as they are and don't ever want to change.
025 RANT- Why does P.O. J.D. from third watch like to talk shit about his fellow co-workers? I mean the constant name calling, shit talking, etc...??? For a new guy with maybe two years on the job, maybe he should keep his mouth shut and learn from the older guys there!
1/09/2009 10:54:00 AM
Why not ask him yourself instead of being a coward and asking on the internet?
What about our pension fund? Now they are trying to give it to the widow/widowers (even if they remarry). I don't know about the rest of you, but if my old lady gets remarried, I don't want to support the new dude. If we live into our older years and she survives me, I hope she is taken care of. But imagine if my young wife (no kids), remarries some guy and my pension is their main support. I call bullshit. Also, if our pension fund is so willing to find more ways to distribute more and more often and also let Daley's clan dip in, we are in BIG TROUBLE.
1/10/2009 04:05:00 AM
The widow/widower if under the age of 55 remarries, losses the pension, over 55 gets to keep it. Or if they had been married for at least 25 years gets to keep it. Federal law.
A wife
Would those who worked in housing STFU! You never worked ten hours! I repeat, YOU NEVER WORKED TEN HOURS! ENOUGH ALREADY!
I WARNED EVERYONE! IF THE CITY AND FOP LIKE THESE SCHEDULES, THEY ARE NOT GOOD FOR YOU! LEMMINGS ALL OF YOU! I WORKED IN HOUSING AND BLAH BLAH BLAH! REAP WHAT YOU SOW!
Hey, here's a novel idea: Do some work and lock up some puke at the 8hour mark and ride the arrest into the 10th hour. Oh, I forgot, either you're afraid or lazy to do what you're getting paid to do. Asswipes, can't agree on anything.
Anonymous said...
Here's what an 8 hour district is dealing with: NONE of the school officers have cars, tactical officers are riding 4 deep and having to work superbly weird hours just to be able to pass the cars to the next tact teams that will be riding 4 deep, _06 teams with no cars standing around the district because their pool car was taken back by the area, Rapid cars? what's that.
**NOT your problem. The shortage of cars & equipment is something the DEPARTMENT will have to fix.
1/09/2009 11:54:00 PM
Hey we could always use the bus!
I worked in housing, and i agree the ten hr schedule is grrrreat
1/10/2009 03:02:00 AM
But, you didn't work 10 hours.
Off topic.
Shooting at Belmont/Keeler last night. Burgandy Cherokee with offender chased into 014 where Sgt immediatley calls off chase, 017 picks up car and is told to end chase by a screaming sgt filled with panic three times. Does anyone have balls left. Shooter in vehicle was seen laughing getting away. So proud to be CPD.....
1/09/2009 02:03:00 PM
Who cares?
TO: Officers Working in Pilot Program Districts
FROM: HQ Supervisor
SUBJECT: Work Schedule Year-end Assessment
At the end of 2009, a comprehensive impact study of each of the pilot programs will be undertaken. Factors to be considered will include, but not be limited to, the pilot schedule's impact on: extension-of-tour overtime (which will likely decrease per studies from other jurisdictions), court related overtime (which will likely increase according to the experience of other jurisdictions), rate of violent crime, equipment costs (vehicles - including officer involved traffic crashes, radios, and PDTs), IOD occurrences, medical roll usage (number of occurrences as well as average duration per occurrence), discipline (rate of change in the number of CRs and SPARs initiated), officer activity (the usual - arrests, movers, parkers, dispersals, contact cards, etc.), and officer reported factors (fatigue, satisfaction, work-home balance, etc.).
As you are already aware, any decision about continuing and/or implementing one or more of the pilot schedules in additional units and/or citywide primarily depends on how it benefits the city. Officer satisfaction will be secondary - though not wholly disregarded - in this decision making process. In other words, the Department is like the vast majority of individuals in that it acts in its own self-interest.
With that said, if you prefer to keep the pilot schedule, act accordingly. Impact those areas of the year-end assessment over which you have control: arrests, parkers, movers, contact cards, dispersals, medical roll usage, reported satisfaction, and, to some extent, discipline. In other words, make it difficult for the Department to scrap the pilot schedule.
Conversely, if you do not prefer the pilot schedule, your lack of performance can help ensure its failure. This is one occasion where officers, by and large, can influence the outcome and change Department policy
God bless and stay safe.
Also whether or not we are EXTREMELY happy with our COMMAND staff wherever we work or just ingeneral, we just should try to make some sort of effort for the good of things in the streets and the safety of our families and co-workers out here.
In other words, we really should try to eliminate some of the shit that has festered over the last several years!
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You're a nerd.
I have worked 6 day week for close to 30 years.I do not want to be at work 10 hours it ruins the whole day.Besides I can't stand being there fo 8 hours much less 10.I will be gone soon so if you get 10 hour days it is only because it benefits the city if you believe they give a fuck about you then you're soft as shit.
Someone call a detective. Who's kids tuition did the Chicago Police Memorial Fund pay to the tune of 15K or so? Why did they pay this tuition. The parent in question was not a line of duty death NOR was it duty related injury. Who the hell gets to decide these things? Hey Memorial fund. I am a cancer patient, can you pay my kids tuition too? Am I not connected to anyone who runs it. I say BULLSHIT. Wait til someone scoops this.
ITS TRUE!!! Must be nice to be connected, she had a heart attack, husband has a great job, daughter has the University of Chicago Scholarship, and insurance covers all but 1500 per year. Giving away our money for what??? Next up, someone will run a big benefit for her. Got to pay for the new Florida house you know. Oh did I add, daddy is a retired exempt?
Ok, i can see the 4 day guys already seeing a benefit- that they are done with their week soon... already put in 27 hours, 9 more to go before rdo....but the 10 hour guys, how can they really comment yet? At best they are 30 hours in to their 50 hours before rdo... Which brings up a good point... Id rather work 36 hours and get days off as oppossed to 50 for days off. Granted, you get an extra day, but after 50 hrs, you need it.
To the person who thinks change is so good ,you are right I am SCARED of change.You will be too when your wife says there is a CHANGE in your relationship or your doctor says there is a CHANGE in your health.Have heard both of these, trust me son change ain't good.But good luck to you anyway.
to the 018th dist know it all who has INTEGRITY??????
Please the only thing you 018 dist coppers know is to bitch and moan everytime some outside unit is eating downtown......the only thing you know about the projects is that your lil yuppie station is located in what was once the most fucked up projects in the nation. But then again you could've bid to the housing unit but you had integrity.....YEAH IM SURE THE SAME INTEGRITY THATS NOTICED ON THOSE BULLSHIT HONORABLE MENTION WALL YOU CLOWNS POST UP BY THE FRONT....
Anyone wanna see some real police work...go check out that wall in 018...oh yeah then take a look at the tact teams....Lots of tight shirts and chinos.......be safe SUPER COP...now go write your 20 parkers and tell your war stories in the bar to the people that you call friends.
OT but speaking of calling off chases what about the Watch Commander in 015(believe 2nd watch)shots fired at the police and by the police.Ya'll needs to terminate that chase, thank god for Deputy Rivera monitoring the air and telling them go on with it.What the Fuck kind of bosses do we have that say we can't chase when we're shot at!!!!WTF.Bad guy caught weapon recovered,believe charged with attempt murder
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Lawfully speaking, an order to terminate the chase is unlawful. (imagine a sgt says stop this man with no PC) I would sue any supervisor that told me not to arrest a person who commits agg battery w/ handgun ( is the supervisor friends with or benifiting from the crime being commited then why call off a felony chase?). Traffic or a misdormeanor is fine, buy once someone makes an immidiate threat to society these supervisors are wrong and are so afraid they are actually lining themselves up to be sued in civil court by fellow officers and civillians for not allowing the detention of felons.
Further if I fire my weapon and a sgt LT says terminate, they are all over the paper, and in court I'm putting it on them, saying they prevented a full investigation.
Again why are coppers making any activity, so when you get shot at, they don't care, they only care about their rank and spot, and live in fear, why are they the police? God if I was in charge I would of stripped the supervisor on the spot.
The city should have asked other jurisdictions with the same schedules how they implemented it. Don't just come up with nutty ideas.
No. The FLOP should of had a vote from the active members on what work schedule they want. Majority rules.
I hope you people will remember this when Donaho and the rest of his flunkies run for reelection.
I worked a real job, not that our job isn't dangerous, but I worked 10 1/2 hours a day swiped in and out doing manual labor on my feet and ten hour days are great!!! You only work four days in a row not five but I guess everyone didn't get good grades in math!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
025 RANT- Why does P.O. J.D. from third watch like to talk shit about his fellow co-workers? I mean the constant name calling, shit talking, etc...??? For a new guy with maybe two years on the job, maybe he should keep his mouth shut and learn from the older guys there!
1/09/2009 10:54:00 AM
This stupid ass will never, ever, ever learn. He thinks he is special because he knows people in the department (I have news for you Joe, so do many other people!). He likes to get away from 025 and then he talks about how other officers should have done this right or should have known better! Guys with five to ten times more years on than him. So go ahead J.D. (two year wonder) and talk shit away because you think you are so damn smart and others are dumb!
Someone call a detective. Who's kids tuition did the Chicago Police Memorial Fund pay to the tune of 15K or so? Why did they pay this tuition. The parent in question was not a line of duty death NOR was it duty related injury. Who the hell gets to decide these things? Hey Memorial fund. I am a cancer patient, can you pay my kids tuition too? Am I not connected to anyone who runs it. I say BULLSHIT. Wait til someone scoops this.
1/09/2009 08:07:00 PM
I HOP THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!! IF SO THATS COMPLETELY FUCKED UP...
What the fuck is wrong with you? the foundation is helping a copper's family in need and you complain? if you truly have cancer, let them know about it and they will help you as well, that's what it's all about, it's not just line of duty deaths and injuries, it's about being there for our own because nobody else will be.
It is no wonder why we are in the predicament we find ourself in on this job, jagoff coppers they have hired the last ten years who are only interested in themselves....
Remember, the city is pushing the ten hour days, so it is obviously in their best interest, not ours.
My son and his wife are both on the job. They wanted 10 hour days but now they have a baby. They work different watches with a family member taking the baby a few hours for the overlap. Now his wife is in a pilot district.
This works well if you don't have kids or if you spouse doesn't work or at least has regular hours that fit somehow. This is going to be a nightmare for them. And for single parents without available family, how do you handle child care, picking kids up from school, etc.?
What about our pension fund? Now they are trying to give it to the widow/widowers (even if they remarry). I don't know about the rest of you, but if my old lady gets remarried, I don't want to support the new dude. If we live into our older years and she survives me, I hope she is taken care of. But imagine if my young wife (no kids), remarries some guy and my pension is their main support. I call bullshit. Also, if our pension fund is so willing to find more ways to distribute more and more often and also let Daley's clan dip in, we are in BIG TROUBLE.
1/10/2009 04:05:00 AM
You can write it into your will
Anyone knocking the 10 hr day is a fucking moron! Try it first....2 extra hours a day is not that big of a deal. 5 on 3 off for three weeks and 4 on 4 off for three weeks. If you can't enjoy all that extra time off than you are a miserable fuck and there is no changing it.
A 10 hour schedule sound great if you work in 020 or TRU. But in 005? Your gonna be running from job to job, I don't want to imagine how the summer is gonna be. I think the schedule that 008 has sounds good though
1/09/2009 12:39:00 PM
Yeah we forgot your the hardest working cop in the department. Maybe this was before your time(2 years ago) son, but all of A/2 and I believe A/5 had the original pilot and loved it. Your only choice is to bid out, but you have no time so that is not an option. Looks like your going to stop being a fat little baby and try something new.
the 015 dist. chase was great,it ended in 011 at jackson/kenton with offender uttering the classic line: "ALL THIS FOR A BAG OF WEED" yeah sure jagballs all that for a bag of weed,after you shot at the police.What was he smoking when he said that,OOHH i forgot some weed.
To the idiot that thinks all chases are good. Read the order, . 017 cars chasing were two unmarked and no positive id the car being chased was the shooter. I was one of them and when the driver of the Cherokee drove through every intersection without even hitting the brakes and was gaining common sense prevailed, the drive was known and would eventually be caught. Thank me when you are still alive and can go home to your family and children because terminating a chase is not as easy as you think the Sgt. did the right thing. What would your explanation be when the offender hit a killed an innocent person, unless you saw him shoot you had nothing more than traffic!!!!!
My son and his wife are both on the job. They wanted 10 hour days but now they have a baby. They work different watches with a family member taking the baby a few hours for the overlap. Now his wife is in a pilot district.
This works well if you don't have kids or if you spouse doesn't work or at least has regular hours that fit somehow. This is going to be a nightmare for them. And for single parents without available family, how do you handle child care, picking kids up from school, etc.?
You are absolutely WRONG. I am in the position you described and the new schedule change would make myself and my wife's life easier with the kids. As long as you are in different DOG's, more days off equals less days we need to worry about the kids.
Hey kid the only thing this old timer is afraid of is YOU! you so called college educated pussy are afraid to do any type of police work I MIGHT GET FIRED! as we used to say dont speak unless spoken to
to the cop with cancer i have cancer too and have been told many times to contact police memorial for financil help but i can still take care of myself as i am single but knowing its there is comforting. i dont mind helping this kid out when his parent passed away we became his parent and we should help because when YOU die your family will be taken care of also.
signed
cancer patient too!
"This works well if you don't have kids or if you spouse doesn't work or at least has regular hours that fit somehow. This is going to be a nightmare for them. And for single parents without available family, how do you handle child care, picking kids up from school, etc.?
1/10/2009 03:11:00 PM"
Real Simple, Don't have Kids, Quit or become a Fireman.Unemployment is another alternative. More than apparent you're some assjag retired Boss who knows what it's all about. How's that second home in the Keys working out for you Bagman?
Talking about schedules (off topic)
How the heck do you land a job, where you can just come and go as you please, and not be accountable for it? Doesn't everyone else have to work eight hour days, whether inside a squad car or not? I know I do. Well, anyway, such is the case with the 019 District CAPS office beauty queens.....
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Where can I apply? It sounds like the best schedule yet. CAPS is a joke where I'm at too. I've worked in every northside district and it was the same story at each one. You only see them for a few minutes a day. No supervision and no accountability. The bosses let them do what ever they want because they're useless pieces of shit too. CAPS is where all the bosses hide their blow-job broads. What a waste of manpower. Put their sorry asses back on the street where they belong and watch them cry.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have worked 6 day week for close to 30 years.I do not want to be at work 10 hours it ruins the whole day.Besides I can't stand being there fo 8 hours much less 10.I will be gone soon so if you get 10 hour days it is only because it benefits the city if you believe they give a fuck about you then you're soft as shit.
1/10/2009 10:32:00 AM
Well...um..ok...no disrespect but you did your time and are about to go. What about the rest of us who have another 20 years or so? Looking at this cities guts 6 days in a row sux! And jeez...who are we kidding...guys stay down on parkers for fuckin a half hour, not to mention who takes a 30 minute lunch for real? 10 hr day...extra 2 hours? Big deal...so our lunch is longer or you stretch a job or 2 out a little bit. Big deal. I'll take it just to have more time off with my family...the only thing that keeps me sane working/living in the Shitty og shitcago.
Hey 3 Bars,
Maybe when you and your partner start making your own arrests, instead of paper jumping... some of your words may be taken serious. But the truth is you have never been the working police or in a working district for that matter! 3 fucking Bars in the same slow ass district, real tough guy, 15 years of hiding behind that Team. So enough of you RAH RAH weak ass empty words you sap!
025 RANT- Why does P.O. J.D. from third watch like to talk shit about his fellow co-workers? I mean the constant name calling, shit talking, etc...??? For a new guy with maybe two years on the job, maybe he should keep his mouth shut and learn from the older guys there!
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Send him to midnights, he'll fit in with the rest of the goofs.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"This works well if you don't have kids or if you spouse doesn't work or at least has regular hours that fit somehow. This is going to be a nightmare for them. And for single parents without available family, how do you handle child care, picking kids up from school, etc.?
1/10/2009 03:11:00 PM"
Real Simple, Don't have Kids, Quit or become a Fireman.Unemployment is another alternative. More than apparent you're some assjag retired Boss who knows what it's all about. How's that second home in the Keys working out for you Bagman?
So I need to quit because I have kids so asses like you can work 10 hours days?? You are a jerk.
I cannot believe someone from 018 had the nerve to post comments about housing! You are a stroke. I worked housing for years and if I ever saw an 18th district car in the greens or the row houses it was a miracle. Rarely did you guys/gals ever get out of your car to do police work even when it was in your face! Paaaaleeeeezze sucka faced fool. How about you talk about something you know about like trying to look cool rolling down Michigan ave and the lakefront scoping out girls, trying to get their phone #'s!!!!! 80% of the officers in 018 think their shit doesn't stink. Freaking self absorbed dolts.
Oh and before you make some smart ass comment, I worked lots of overtime, I worked my ass off and yes I enjoyed it. AND before you say more nonsense, those overtime slips require offender names, cb#, Rd#'s and a W/C signature. Now that I am no longer there I get to enjoy taking my hard earned comp time as often as I like. I just came off a wonderful 28 days of furlough.
Ten hour days were great but for those officers that do work in busy distict it won't be so great cause the will have to deal with shitheads for 10 and that does suck big time. Yeah its nice at first and when working day furlough comes along but it gets old. It wears you out, especially if you have a late arrest. It gives you more days off but not everything lands on your days off. Its hard putting in that slip for 10hrs off, especially when you want a baby furlough. It is stressful while you are working but I found I overall I was more rested and had more time to do stuff. I don't have kids but I can't imagine it would be easy, especially if you are a single parent. I never had time to do much of anything on the days I worked, other than work out and or go to court. Its hard even to get 8 hours of sleep. Oh and you can kiss your daily side jobs goodbye if you want to sleep or have kids.
There are pros and cons to the schedule and no it is not for everyone.
4/2 would probably work out the best as far as stress and family are concerned. At least with 4/2 we could still accumulate come comp time. Having worked both schedules, I vote 4/2.
thanks for letting me vent...sorry its so long.
ITS TRUE!!! Must be nice to be connected, she had a heart attack, husband has a great job, daughter has the University of Chicago Scholarship, and insurance covers all but 1500 per year. Giving away our money for what??? Next up, someone will run a big benefit for her. Got to pay for the new Florida house you know. Oh did I add, daddy is a retired exempt?
Tell you what rub the genie lamp and switch places, lie in a hospital bed, unresponsive, not recognizing your kids, family, friends, sorry you don't think its fair but they paid into the fund just like everyone else...
Mr. SouthSide says---
"...019 CAPS office beauty queens..."
Are they really cute? I know no one out there is interested in girls. Mind if I stop by?
I remember those days. It was like a recording kicked in automatically.
"1821H take the domestic, 1230 N. Burling, apt. 301."
RECORDING KICKS IN
"Squad, aren't there any housing cars available?"
Isn't the H designation for Housing?
10 hour days are for shit!! 5 in a row wtf!!! Who is going to want to work overtime after being there for 10 hours??? The 5th day will be the killer thats for sure!! The city is trying to fuck us!! They want us to get our schedule locked in and then the swipe in and swipe out will start and EVERYONE will be trapped for 10 fucking hours a day with no wiggle room!! The coppers on the street the bosses the dicks the units will all be stuck. Without wiggle room what else do we have on this job??
The city must think we are all stupid...and if this flies they are correct.
Don't fall for this bullshit schedule!!
Everyone is so worried about the schedule what about our pension! Most departments have an 80% max.
Many departments have a 25 and out and get to collect right at 25 years ...no waiting for 50 yrs of age. There are even departments like NYPD that has 20 and out. Yup after 20 years you get to collect your pension!! Can you imagine coming on at 21 leaving at 41 and getting a pension???
Our union is fighting the wrong fight and our Mayor is trying to FUCK us!!
The Chicago Police Memorial Foundation is a not-for-profit organization dedicated to honoring the lives and memories of our fallen heroes. The Foundation provides support and assistance to the families of Chicago Police Officers who were killed or catastrophically injured in the line of duty.
When I am giving my money all these years this is where I think it's going. Now, I hear that someone is getting it that doesn't really need it? Has the salary of that officer changed? NO. Being on the medical you still get paid. Right? You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. Do you have any idea how many coppers are struggling to make ends meet? If we take care of people who are sick and it's not duty related, the fund would be emptied out in a week. WHO DECIDED THIS? Who decided to change the rules? Why don't they help everyone? Why isn't this it's own post?
Hey kid the only thing this old timer is afraid of is YOU!
and wet farts Im sure
Anonymous said...
I remember those days. It was like a recording kicked in automatically.
"1821H take the domestic, 1230 N. Burling, apt. 301."
RECORDING KICKS IN
"Squad, aren't there any housing cars available?"
Isn't the H designation for Housing?
1/11/2009 08:56:00 AM
Ahh, yes, non-working policemen VOLUNTEER for an overtime spot at the greens, then promptly hideout on Rush street. You sign up for the greens, YOU get the jobs at the greens. Maybe you errantly thought you signed up for the Rush Street Steakhouse overtime initiative....
Am on day 4 of my 4 nine hour day schedule.... Let me just say that so far this is great.... also, 9 hours is about as long as I am able to patrol in a beat car- the extra hour from the 8 hour schedule makes the day noticeably, yet manageably, longer. While 9 hours is manageable, it is at the limit of my 'at work tolerance'..... I cannot imagine doing a 10 hour day for 5 days in a row in a beat car. Especially working 10-99, the 10 hour day may be unbearable...
TO: 013th district's new program sucks...6 nine hour days with 3 off... Now the 6th day is even longer !!! I'm bidding out
1/09/2009 05:11:00 PM
Let me get this straight, you are technically working an 8 1/2 hour day (which is technically what your old schedule was) and you are getting another day off....Take the day off and relax, you didn't do crap the first 8 hours anyways...
Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot.
1/09/2009 01:23:00 AM
And I worked in 018 during this time and I can tell you that YOU NEVER WORKED A FULL 10 HOUR SHIFT! Not once! Housing never did shit to begin with, but to act like you were there for even 8 hours on the 10 hour schedule is a joke! That unit was the worst ghost payroller in the city! Guess the jokes on me though, I could have bid there and had no integrity too.
1/09/2009 08:29:00 AM
I worked it in 015th and it was the bomb - and we worked ten hours - MUSH!
Hey people if you like the schedule don't say you like it say you hate it and it sucks that way the city will make mandatory for everyone.
1/09/2009 10:32:00 AM
You are absolutely right about the above. I noticed when we do like something the city takes it away from us...and when they notice we hate it they let us really have it.
If I hear another person say "when I was in housing it was GREAT, I'll puke".That was BEFORE G.P.S. and BEFORE WEIS AND BEFORE A HUGE MANPOWER SHORTAGE.It will suck and cost tons of cops their marriages due to the stress of running their wifes around to get the kids.This was a bad idea from the get go,all we need to do is eliminate the 6th day and deal with the loss of the 2 3 day weekends.Unions in this country FOUGHT FOR THE 8 HOUR DAY FOR A REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1/09/2009 02:39:00 PM
The 10 hour workday was not only in housing. It was actually in 015 and other districts as a pilot program back in, I belive it was 2004, correct me if I am wrong. And when it was in those districts and not in HOUSING (FYI -they got rid of the 10hr work day in housing and implemented them in districts as a pilot program in that same year)- everyone loved them. They worked a full 10 and had those 4 day weekends off. They loved it. The same once who tried back then, bid for it this time around as well. I would rather do 10 hrs than work our suck ass schedule 6 & 2. Anything is better than that terrible schedule that you say the union fought for. What the f!@# were they thinking!!!
Hmmm, almost 2 extra months off a year with three 4 day weekends off every 3 weeks is a bad idea. I worked the 10 hr schedule for 3 yrs in housing and the one thing I am sure about is that you are an idiot.
1/09/2009 01:23:00 AM
The only difference is that 10 hour days in patrol are going to be 10 hours, not the 7-8 that you worked in housing.
1/09/2009 03:11:00 PM
Districts worked 10 hours with no ducks when it was implemented as a pilot program back in 2004 and they loved it. So there is no difference.
OT but speaking of calling off chases what about the Watch Commander in 015(believe 2nd watch)shots fired at the police and by the police.Ya'll needs to terminate that chase, thank god for Deputy Rivera monitoring the air and telling them go on with it.What the Fuck kind of bosses do we have that say we can't chase when we're shot at!!!!WTF.Bad guy caught weapon recovered,believe charged with attempt murder
1/10/2009 01:14:00 AM
That's what happens when you assign the Caps LT as the W/C for the day...Clueless. You are absolutely right - goog think the Deputy Chief was monitoring the chase. He totally told the zone - disregard last (meaning terminating chase by LT) and he said go get the offenders.
Mhhh, ten hour days in the summer on an afternoon rapid in 004, 005 or 006 sounds good to you? Sleeping through a ten hour tour in housing is one thing, but WORKING a ten hour day and then going to court and then doing ANOTHER ten hour day is another thing altogether. One thing I am sure about is that you never had to do 10 consecutive hours of "work" on any day you were in housing.
1/10/2009 03:07:00 AM
STOP WHINING!!! It's your job. You signed up for this shit, so take it like a man and do your job!!!! WORK - Be happy you have a job. If you dont want to work than quit. Great Work ethic
I have worked 6 day week for close to 30 years.I do not want to be at work 10 hours it ruins the whole day.Besides I can't stand being there fo 8 hours much less 10.I will be gone soon so if you get 10 hour days it is only because it benefits the city if you believe they give a fuck about you then you're soft as shit.
1/10/2009 10:32:00 AM
You are nuts...go retire please. Another old timer who refuses change.
"This works well if you don't have kids or if you spouse doesn't work or at least has regular hours that fit somehow. This is going to be a nightmare for them. And for single parents without available family, how do you handle child care, picking kids up from school, etc.?
1/10/2009 03:11:00 PM"
i am a single parent and it works great!!! You only work 4 days a week verses 5 so I am sure you can handle it. So are you saying because you are married and have a kid we all have to say no to the 10 our workday? get a life. I am married and have a kid and believe me we managed. I actually spend 3 - 4 day weekends with my family instead of every 2 3 day weekends with them. I actually know what my kid looks like now. If you don't like the schedule, quit and find another job. But, don't go and ruin it for the rest of us who do have families and are happy for the 10 hour work day
If you enjoy showing up to work more days a week, then the 10 hour day is not for you. If you love having an extra day off and three four day weekends in a row, then 10-hour days you will like.
I have three kids and a wife. I worked the 10-hour schedule before and I loved habing the extra days off, especially on weekends. As far as I am concerned, work is miserable anyway, so why would I want to show up more frequently. I know the last two hours of a day ina beat car ar going to be miserable, but people will get used to it. It is also real easy planning weekend events with your families or side jobs.
The guys against the 10-hour day obviously are miserable and want to be away from their fat, thin-lipped, cigarette smoking, mean Irish wives and rotten punk kids as much as possible. I think I heard one of them requesting seven 5.5 hour days. That way they can be awa from home everyday.
For you geniuses who think the 10 hour schedule is a bad deal. Working the crap 6 day schedule we have now, you would have to BURN 416 HOURS COMP-TIME to equal the time off you get in a 10 hour schedule. Get a clue....
cute? Not really, but if THEY think they're cute does that count?
"Studies have shown that medical use increases on the 6th day along with brutality etc." Oh yeah? Cite 'em then.
Besides, this whole alternative hours thing is just a red herring for the City to take money out of our pockets to give the 20-somethings more time off to drink. Watch the contract.
And play with your rifles. I hope that you can buy bread with them, because there'll be a trade-off there too. Grow up.
Anonymous said...
Many departments have a 25 and out and get to collect right at 25 years ...no waiting for 50 yrs of age. There are even departments like NYPD that has 20 and out. Yup after 20 years you get to collect your pension!! Can you imagine coming on at 21 leaving at 41 and getting a pension???
Our union is fighting the wrong fight and our Mayor is trying to FUCK us!!
1/11/2009 09:06:00 AM
Hey dipshit. Got a news flash for ya. NYPD only gets 40% after twenty years, they don't have any bidding rights for assignments, they don't have a 365 day medical. Shall I go on? I just love you guys who tell half the story. Oh, sorry. That's probably all you knew.
Anonymous said...
For you geniuses who think the 10 hour schedule is a bad deal. Working the crap 6 day schedule we have now, you would have to BURN 416 HOURS COMP-TIME to equal the time off you get in a 10 hour schedule. Get a clue....
1/11/2009 05:06:00 PM
Hey , smarty pants, WE ARE COMPARING THE N E W SCHEDULES TO EACH OTHER. Everyone knows the current schedule blows, What's that blue? A clue! Look What I found!!! By working the 9 hour, 4 on 2 off schedule, it really only feels like a 36 hour week! Look at the TIME AT WORK, the time the City has our balls, stop looking at the time off....
8hr, 6 day--- 48 hours a week. In a row. Yuck
9 hr, 4 day--- 45 hours a week, 36 IN A ROW. nice
10hr, 5 day---50 hours a week, 50 in a row -worst
then 40 hours a week, 40 in a row- best
Ladies and Germs, my goal is to work as little as possible. Im not looking for time off, Im looking for less time ON. The 9 is a perfect compromise between the current, crappy schedule and the 10 hour,which is sometimes the best, sometimes theworst schedule, depending on where you are in the goofy cycle...
The 10 hour schedule gives you more time off, but you have to WORK MORE days in a row and longer days to attain, something that the City is pushing...go figure. Hell, lets just work six months on, six months off while we are at it.. look at all that time off! What a deal!
10 hours days might be ok, **IF** the hours were better.
3rd watch is 1600 - 0200 and 1700 - 0300. Terrible.
Why not 1-11 or 2-12 or 3-1?? Nobody wants to work 5pm to 3 am. Nobody.
The city gets what they want. Maximum police coverage during the late evening and early morning hours with less officers. And for all of you touting how great the 10 hour day is...wait until you have to start swiping out.
Mhhh, ten hour days in the summer on an afternoon rapid in 004, 005 or 006 sounds good to you? Sleeping through a ten hour tour in housing is one thing, but WORKING a ten hour day and then going to court and then doing ANOTHER ten hour day is another thing altogether. One thing I am sure about is that you never had to do 10 consecutive hours of "work" on any day you were in housing.
1/10/2009 03:07:00 AM
STOP WHINING!!! It's your job. You signed up for this shit, so take it like a man and do your job!!!! WORK - Be happy you have a job. If you dont want to work than quit. Great Work ethic
1/11/2009 03:05:00 PM
Thanks for the pep talk, but next time have someone translate the 1/10/2009 03:07:00 AM posting into whatever language you understand so you don't sound like an idiot when you respond. When the City tries to crack something off in your ass, remember to take it like a man, Bucky.
Reading your comment brought me back to those dog daze of summer many, many years ago when I'd take a long dump in the station before checking off at midnite. Now THAT was a great work ethic. If only I could have done that for ten hours....
We all know how the 6 day work week schedule works. If the city was smart, which they are not, they would cycle the pilot programs to every district for three months at a time then rotate them. This way every P.O. in the 25 districts gets a taste of the new work schedules the city is piloting. As a result, at the end of the year, everyone can give their input to which schedule is really the best. Oh yeah, I really like the 10hr shifts so far and I haven't even had a day off yet!
Hey dipshit. Got a news flash for ya. NYPD only gets 40% after twenty years, they don't have any bidding rights for assignments, they don't have a 365 day medical. Shall I go on? I just love you guys who tell half the story. Oh, sorry. That's probably all you knew.
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Hey POS for your information NYPD gets 50% after 20 years...what does CPD offer after 20 years ..oh yeah 50% but you have to wait til your 50 years old. I would take 50% at 41 years old any day of the week!!
HEY GENIUS...THIS IS FROM THE NYPD WEBSITE:
Additional Benefits
10 Paid vacation days during first & second year
13 Paid vacation days during third, fourth & fifth year
27 Paid vacation days after 5 years of service
Unlimited sick leave with full pay
A choice of paid medical programs
Prescription, dental, and eyeglass coverage
Annuity fund
Deferred Compensation Plan, 401K and I.R.A.
Optional retirement at one half salary after 20 years of service
Annual $12,000 Variable Supplement Fund (upon retirement)
Annual banking of $12,000 Variable Supplement Fund after 20 years of service (if not retiring)
Excellent promotional opportunities
Educational opportunities
Additional benefits are available to military personnel
I'M PRETTY SURE IT SAYS UNLIMITED SICK LEAVE AT FULL PAY AND NYPD HAS A CURRENT CONTRACT ...JAGOFF!!!
Anonymous said...
Hey 3 Bars,
Maybe when you and your partner start making your own arrests, instead of paper jumping... some of your words may be taken serious. But the truth is you have never been the working police or in a working district for that matter! 3 fucking Bars in the same slow ass district, real tough guy, 15 years of hiding behind that Team. So enough of you RAH RAH weak ass empty words you sap!
1/10/2009 11:23:00 PM
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For your information my slow ass district is 019 and I know its slow but we (some) hustle on tact here!
I just wanted to get back to REAL POLICING like I did on the southside in years past (no comment on districts...figure it out!) Then maybe I'd leave to go back to IT!!!! That is why I posted the RAH RAH shit I did!!!
3 bars
YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET IT! IF THE CITY AND FOP LIKE IT IT IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU! 2 10 HOUR WATCHES JUST ABOUT DOES AWAY WITH THE MIDNIGHT WATCH! LESS PERSONNEL NEEDED! CITY SAVES BIG $$$$$$ AND FOP AND CITY ROLL OVER IN BED AND EMBRACE! GOD, FOR COLLEGE KIDS, YOU ALL SURE IS DUMB!
Anonymous said...
Mr. SouthSide says---
"...019 CAPS office beauty queens..."
Are they really cute? I know no one out there is interested in girls. Mind if I stop by?
1/11/2009 08:48:00 AM
One is ok, the other is chunky and wears her clothes way to tight! Maybe they need a mirror in that busy caps office!
"So I need to quit because I have kids so asses like you can work 10 hours days?? You are a jerk.
1/11/2009 01:49:00 AM"
What would you do if we rotated every 28 days? I did that for 12years with 3 children& a spouse who worked full time. Oh I know, you'll get on your knees in the DC's office to work straight days.
The only ass is the Suckass you see in the mirror each morning.Bitch.
"Seiser can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
1/09/2009 12:17:00 AM"
Actually, Seiser leads the water to the horse.
"1/12/2009 12:56:00 AM"
Run for FOP office.
Seriously.
You have the common sense currently absent.
"YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET IT! IF THE CITY AND FOP LIKE IT IT IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU! 2 10 HOUR WATCHES JUST ABOUT DOES AWAY WITH THE MIDNIGHT WATCH! LESS PERSONNEL NEEDED! CITY SAVES BIG $$$$$$ AND FOP AND CITY ROLL OVER IN BED AND EMBRACE! GOD, FOR COLLEGE KIDS, YOU ALL SURE IS DUMB!
1/12/2009 08:41:00 PM"
Wow, someone is paying attention to the details. The F(L)OP certainly isn't.
The City will implement the 10 hour schedule and eliminate, through retirements and attrition, all of the 1st watch. Then they'll stagger the start times of the remaining districts to have 24hr coverage on each radio zone. J-Pud will also devise some new variation on the Total Retard Unit/Mobile Stroke Farce to provide additional reserve manpower and suck the remaining life out of patrol.
When will the "I done worked the 10 hour in housing" pukes catch up and see what's going on? Never, because they're all in units and this shit won't effect them.
Anonymous said...
Unions in New York had a lot of money with Bernie Madoff. In fact, one union, carpenters in syracuse, had all of their pension money with this guy. Now they have nothing.
1/09/2009 07:01:00 AM
bernie needs to have his balls cut off.
That's what happens when you assign the Caps LT as the W/C for the day...Clueless. You are absolutely right - goog think the Deputy Chief was monitoring the chase. He totally told the zone - disregard last (meaning terminating chase by LT) and he said go get the offenders.
1/11/2009 03:02:00 PM
A member of a higher rank can over ride the decision of a subordinate. BUT then he/she becomes responsible for the outcome.
So I need to quit because I have kids so asses like you can work 10 hours days?? You are a jerk.
1/11/2009 01:49:00 AM"
What would you do if we rotated every 28 days? I did that for 12years with 3 children& a spouse who worked full time. Oh I know, you'll get on your knees in the DC's office to work straight days.
The only ass is the Suckass you see in the mirror each morning.Bitch.
1/12/2009 10:47:00 PM
Finally, words of wisdom. Let's see how much they will like the 10 hour days when we have to swipe in and out!
One other thing: the FOP allowing the 2 hour adjustment rule to every watch will really end the need for three watches! You start at 5am, well now you start at 3am! You start at 10pm, now you start at 12am ,work until 10am! Oh boy, is the city gonna have some fun! Click your heels Dorothy and repeat after me, there's no shift like the past.....
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