Pre-Tax vs Post-Tax
And speaking of major changes:
- everyone check your paychecks insurance deduction is now being taken out on an after tax basis not a pre tax basis CHECK YOUR STUBS AND CALL THE UNION...
This appears to be a major change and we never heard anything about it. Anyone care to explain if this was a change in Federal tax law? A closed loophole? An effort to further confuse and confound everyone?
This is not some crazy rumor - we checked our most recent pay stub against the previous one and it's definitely altered.
This is not some crazy rumor - we checked our most recent pay stub against the previous one and it's definitely altered.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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"nothing to see hear folks, please move along."
And my union dues went up .50c. Did we know about that ????
I smell a city income tax a-coming.
Shortshanks, you rat.
Off Topic - Shaved has this posted, anybody know the story on this one?
An off-duty Chicago police Sgt. was found unconscious with head injuries in the parking lot of TR's Pub in Mt. Greenwood at 11058 S. Springfield. The officer who is unconscious with blunt trauma to the head has been unable to relate to the detectives investigating this matter if this was just an accidental slip and fall or if he was injured by another. The Sgt. is in very serious condition at a local hospital and remains unconscious.
Let's us all say a prayer for him and wish him the strength to make a recovery.
The boys at FOP aren't making enough. Can you spare a dime?
OT-Should I start saving my DVD rental reciepts?? Can we write them off as a work expense? :p
I didn't get my check, but bank statement online has it $0.50 down from last pay period. . . . union dues?
Probably just a software clerical error due to some stupid city worker. None of them know what they're doing.
Where's our raise and retro?
They got my money!!! _ucken _ssholes
Health insurance and Union Dues
I know this is off topic, and I know this post isn't an open post, but I have something to get off my chest. It's about the color Orange. Orange has been a long time nemesis of mine, but I'm willing to let by-gones be by-gones in this new year and make a whole-hearted effort to accept the color orange for what it is. So, in the spirit of the new year, I would like a "do-over" with my relationship with Orange. So, here it goes... "Hello Orange, it's a pleasure to meet you, my name is....... ARRRGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!! I can't... I just can't do IT... It's not right... orange has no right being amongst us, we have to put an end to this... and to the "pro-orangers" who responded to my previous post FUCK YOU too... Does anyone have an idea of what orange represents?!?!?! Nothing good, that much I can tell you!!! Ever seen those two troll Public Defenders in Branch 50 around Halloween??? They ALWAYS DRESS in ORANGE!!! if that doesn't make you hate the color I don't know what will... I've got nothing for Orange, FUCK YOU ORANGE!!! Thinking you're all high and mighty with your bright color... makes my retinas hurt! I tried, I really did... I gave Orange a lot of thought over the holidays, but I just can't bring myself to appreciate a color that is blatently selfish... can you look at any other color when orange is around?!?! NO, do you know why? ORANGE WON'T LET YOU!!! And nothing rhymes with orange... try it... there is no word in the english language that rhymes with orange... what other color does that??? NONE!!! White - Fight, Red - Bed, Blue - Shoe, Yellow - Fellow, Orange - NOTHING!!!!! I will not rest until Orange has been abolished from our color chart!!! And to those of you who like orange and oppose my plan... you just made the list!!! FUCK YOU ORANGE!!! I swear to Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ that orange will no longer be welcome or accepted in this world!!!
And my union dues went up .50c. Did we know about that ????
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Read page 2 of your FOP December News Letter kid.
Starting last year, you can take up to $3000 a year for what you pay for health benefits off your total income on your federal return, whether you itemize deductions or take the standard deduction. I think it applies only to active and retired law enforcement officers, but am not sure. It may account for the change as I'm not aware of any other tax changes that might do so.
Hey SCC, article says Candadian forests are now giving off more carbon dioxide than oxygen because of rise in temperatures, an ominous sign of global warming. Month ago another report indicated high levels of acid in oceans would could destroy many species. How did Al Gore get these scientests to echoe his paranoid fantasies?
Chicago 2016!!!!!
i'm short about a $1.85
According to payroll is was in error, also informed that Dougherty call to inquire as well.
Mistake will be cleared up when everyone returns from their extended weekends.
Did they just make a mistake, as usual? Watch for the AMFN correcting the error.
OT- I know SCC won the Best blog award - but where is the website that was hosting this event?
Not sure how cops disability works, but for most employees you will get screwed if your disability insurance premium is paid with pretax dollars. It makes the disability benefit taxable as income. However, if the disability insurance premium is paid with post-tax dollars, the benefit is not taxable as income. As such, a benefit of 70% of income is livable if it is not subject to income tax, but if you are taxed on 70% income benefit, you only end up with about 50% of your income.
When will we learn. If we would all stick together we could at least get a half way descent contract. The city does what it wants when it wants.
I have adopted their way of thinking and do what I want when I want and that is, I only answer my calls thats it and there isnt a damn thing they can do. Grow some balls!
I received $5.62 less on this check then last.
Comptroller is claiming the change is due to a "clerical error" that will be righted on the upcoming checks. Supposedly did not affect the actual deduction amounts.
WTF. Is this an attempt to make us pay more in income taxes? I call BULLSHIT. FOP what say you?
You are the Winner of Top Police Blog...... come get your badge
http://thebestpoliceblogs.blogspot.com
when am i getting my FOP book?
Nothing changed in tax law that would cause this. Probably someone in payroll screwed up. The union should be able to get this fixed pretty easily.
Sub-Headline on January 12th issue of FORBES Magazine, a leading financial publication for the USA.
HOW TO PROFIT FROM THE MISERY
by Bill Gross
MADOFF Lessons from the $50 Billion Scam
Company of the Year NASDAQ
Capitalizing on Market Chaos
Now substitute, Daley for Bill Gross, City Council for MADOFF and Dept of Revenue for NASDAQ and what do you have?
That's right. Chicago! Where the citizens and the employees get screwed Daley.
Watchout! New federal gasoline taxes on the way.
Shortshanks, Toddler and Blago will think if the Feds can raise gas taxes, well so can they. They think no will notice.
hahahahaha.....im quitting in two weeks.....later suckas
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
Of course the FOP union fee went up. They have to pay for Burge. I know plenty of people who are white that were not granted coverage by the FOP when they stepped in shit. It's a very stupid lawsuit brought on by the 2 black officers. One a court sees that-your lawsuit will be dropped. Fuck Burge.
2016 OLYMPIC CONTRIBUTION IS NEXT AND MANDATORY. YOU WANNA PLAY THE POLICE YOU"LL HAVE TO PAY TO BE THE POLICE. SIGNED HOTROD.
it was in the news letter
I am an accountant however, taxes are not my specialty. I was just on the IRS website last night and viewed all the new tax changes. I did not see any change in the federal tax code that would account for this. I will be checking my husband's check tonight to verify this. If true, hopefully this is just a dumb mistake by someone in payroll. If your insurance premiums are being taxed, the only way to deduct then would be on a schedule A and you would only deduct expenses above 7.5% of your AGI. This is a big problem if true!!!
typical daley bullshit,and now his idiot budget director "discovered" more bad news! How come whenever a daley project comes up millions are found like the hospital,and the bridge work? shortshanks has billions hiiden lets call geraldo to unlock the hidden safe!
Info. regarding the increase in your dues was in the december or november newsletter
OT Breaking News...
City Revenues Drop A Lot More Than Expected
City government took in tens of millions of dollars less in 2008 than it predicted just a few months ago, which will force further cost-saving measures or a drawdown of a rainy-day fund, the city's top financial officer said today.
January 2, 2009 at 1:26 PM
I guess when you allow the number of sworn officers to dwindle, there's no one left to write parkers!
An off-duty Chicago police Sgt. was found unconscious with head injuries in the parking lot of TR's Pub in Mt. Greenwood at 11058 S. Springfield. The officer who is unconscious with blunt trauma to the head has been unable to relate to the detectives investigating this matter if this was just an accidental slip and fall or if he was injured by another. The Sgt. is in very serious condition at a local hospital and remains unconscious.
from shaved's blog. please post and pray for him. he's a sgt in 4, m.d., and he used to be tact secretary in the 008th district.
Congrats on being named "Best Police Blog" for 2008!!
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Who's there?
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Anonymous said...
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
1/02/2009 02:22:00 PM
an attorney sucks to be you kid,sell streetwise!
Prayers for the officer what hospital?
OT: Has anyone figured out why we are turning in all the False Burglar Alarm ticket books?
Because now and in the future False Burglar Alarms will be written on an ANOV citation. This means no free alarms, the poor sucker citizens will now pay the fine from the very first false alarm!
Businesses are first, they will now get an ANOV, no free visits by police for false alarms they ALL get a fine via ANOV.
Hey, Reporters, pick this on up and write about it!
The City will now fine businesses on ALL false burglar alarms, another way to fuck the very life blood of the city: Businesses. This has not been reported on at all.
Off Topic:
Do you think Weiss would ever do something like what Baltimore's Commissioner did on NYE?
http://tinyurl.com/9l5o2j
Boycott TRs, waitresses & bartenders have no recollection of how this Off Duty Sgt got injured. They refused to talk to detectives. He was watch secretary after he took a bullet for this job!!
TRs is a Sh!thole anyways.
Pre-tax vs Post-tax...this is exactly why i wont come off IOD. Not at least till it warms up. I've been on it since late Oct its a beautiful thing.
Stay safe brothers and sisters
Anonymous said...
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
No one cares because you're an attorney.
The FDA has changed testing regulations that now prohibit the use of lab rats. The rats have been replaced by attorneys, much to the delight of researchers. When asked why, one of the researchers replied, "There are some things rats just won't do."
ECS
An off-duty Chicago police Sgt. was found unconscious with head injuries in the parking lot of TR's Pub in Mt. Greenwood at 11058 S. Springfield. The officer who is unconscious with blunt trauma to the head has been unable to relate to the detectives investigating this matter if this was just an accidental slip and fall or if he was injured by another. The Sgt. is in very serious condition at a local hospital and remains unconscious.
from shaved's blog. please post and pray for him. he's a sgt in 4, m.d., and he used to be tact secretary in the 008th district.
1/02/2009 04:27:00 PM
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he had to have emergency brain surgery to reduce swelling of brain. it was a long time before anyone found him in his car.
I swear to Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ that orange will no longer be welcome or accepted in this world!!!
1/02/2009 09:41:00 AM
Glad you could stop by Gerry C. Been into the Jameson's a bit early this morning, haven't we? Still living by the code, "better dead than orange"? I sear on all of Ireland, you are a disgrace!
OT the incident at TRs was involving an off duty sgt. From rumors, again I STRESS RUMORS, he was there for a few hrs with friends and possibly was arguing with a couple of guys who are in the trades(as in plumbers,electricians, engineers etc for the slow guys here) Left the bar and was found unresponsive in the lot some time later. This sgt is in VERY CRITICAL condition and needs everyones prayers. Its too early to say what happened as no one really knows unless they were there and I was not. Im sure there may be a couple of guys who were with him that might know what happened. Im not going to blame anyone at this point but lets just hope and pray for his recovery first and foremost and for the truth to come out eventually. I highly doubt he sustained injuries like this from a fall, which from what i understand is what is being reported
Hey, unemployed attorney. Quit your bitchen and go look for a job.
I hear Mc Donals is hiring!
off topic
i'm sick & tired of off seeing gang bangers walking and driving up & down 63rd st. west of central. could we please get some
tact or patrol service on this side of the 8th dist.!!Clearing is going to shit.Do something before your kids start hanging around or get hurt by them.
concerned citizen
So, if we every get a contract, what is the estimated retro checks you believe we will get...19 months without a contract is such bullshit
I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.1/02/2009 02:22:00 PM
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Boy u must be stupid.
How can the union increase the dues without that being stipulated in our current contract? Or is it? I know they can increase it with it contract but we don't have a new one yet. What's up? What are my rights? I don't want to give a dime more than I need to, to this union.
When do we get our duty availablity check???
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
1/02/2009 02:22:00 PM
You chose a bloated, too-many-mediocre-graduates profession. Boo hoo.
Pension? Doubt I'll see mine due to the corruption in this state.
Health care? For now. Because I pay a portion. But not once I retire, if the city stays the course it's charting.
Vacation? Yup
Sick days? That's called time due, which I EARNED, thank you very much. Or medical (where they seem to check on you if you're home a day or two, but they don't check the abusers.....and if you take more than a certain number of sick days in a specified time period, you get in trouble....and again, for some reason this doesn't tag certain abusers).
So. GFY. Whiner. And find yourself a profession that isn't so bloated with morons. Top law school means shit.
Rumor around 009 is that Gene dumped a female P.O. with 10 years on job from management on 2nd watch to 3rd watch on day of her father's funeral.....true Gene? If so, this is a new low, even for you!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off Topic - Shaved has this posted, anybody know the story on this one?
An off-duty Chicago police Sgt. was found unconscious with head injuries in the parking lot of TR's Pub in Mt. Greenwood at 11058 S. Springfield. The officer who is unconscious with blunt trauma to the head has been unable to relate to the detectives investigating this matter if this was just an accidental slip and fall or if he was injured by another. The Sgt. is in very serious condition at a local hospital and remains unconscious.
Let's us all say a prayer for him and wish him the strength to make a recovery.
1/02/2009 06:08:00 AM
He did not slip and fall
O.T.
IN 016 AN ILLEGEAL IMMIGRANT OF POLISH DECENT DRIVING IN HIS CAR HITS A COPS LITTLE BROTHER WHILE HE IS RIDING HIS BIKE. OFFICER ON SCENE WHO IS ALSO POLISH MAKES THE COPS LITTLE BROTHER BOX 1, WOULDNT INTERVIEW THE KID TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. EVEN THOUGH THIS IMMIGRANT WENT THROUGH A LIGHT AND WHAKED THE KID SENDING HIM THROUGH HIS WINDSHEILD. WAY TO LOOK OUT FOR YOUR OWN FUCKING JAG OFF...HAPPENED 02 JAN 09 APPROX 1400-1500 RIGHT BY ST. PATS HIGH SCHOOL. FUCKING PRICK HOPE I GET THE PAPER WHEN SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY HAS SOME SHIT HAPPEN TO THEM.......
An off-duty Chicago police Sgt. was found unconscious with head injuries in the parking lot of TR's Pub in Mt. Greenwood at 11058 S. Springfield. The officer who is unconscious with blunt trauma to the head has been unable to relate to the detectives investigating this matter if this was just an accidental slip and fall or if he was injured by another. The Sgt. is in very serious condition at a local hospital and remains unconscious.
from shaved's blog. please post and pray for him. he's a sgt in 4, m.d., and he used to be tact secretary in the 008th district.
1/02/2009 04:27:00 PM
This is a joke, right?
Anonymous said...
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
1/02/2009 02:22:00 PM
Shut up and chase that ambulance!
T.R's Pub, a pit of drunken losers, alkie's and bustouts. Look around the area on weekend nights, especially in summer, underage punk dunken kids everywhere, no beat cars to keep it in check, always being taken off the beat and sent east.. Tried calling numerous times, no response. This summer, I'm video recording it all. Well wishes and a full recovery for our injured Sgt.
Anonymous said...
when am i getting my FOP book?
1/02/2009 12:55:00 PM
Mine came today.
Really, it's time for all Supervisors ranked Captain or above to take a cut in pay. What results have they shown to warrant all the money and benefits they make?
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
1/02/2009 02:22:00 PM
????????? Take the next police test...there are plenty of attnys on this job.
I hate to stick up for the FOP, BUT, if any of you kept up with all the newsletters they send out plus the letters from the National FOP you would know that they raised the dues structure LAST summer at the NATIONAL Convention.
Your PAID UNION REP should have told you as they all go for FREE! Plus all the rep's get ALL their dues refunded every year at the REP'S Christmas Party!
Every member of every lodge has to pay that extra $.50 per month, so just pay it!
Bunch of windy bitches, READ those LETTERS!
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Fuckin union dues up .50c! Why does that have to go up? I guess they're just taking a page out of the da mayor's "tax em tax em tax em" book. We haven't had a raise in a long time and everything around us keeps going up. So why would our own union raise our dues in a time like this? Maybe they're just keeping up with the cost of living? Hey, FOP can you get us a raise that keeps up with the cost of living too? What does the FOP really do for us? We never hear from them until it's time to vote or when they want to sell us the BS contract they got us. We can't trust the leadership of department and now our own FOP too! Good times lets work extra hard.
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
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An unemployed lawyer.... that just makes my heart bleed! GET SOME BALLS YOU PATHETIC CRY BABY LOSER AND TAKE THE POLICE TEST!!!!!!!!
I said it before, these politicians don't understand simple economics. People are mobile and can go elsewhere to purchase products and they are! You CAN NOT tax yourself into prosparity. I may have put gas in my car maybe twice in Chicago in the last year and I have never filled it up in Chicago. I try to buy anything expensive outside the city and I know may who do the same. I don't smoke, but I know many who do and always purchase the cigs outside cook county. I know 3 couples that reside in chicago that got married this summer outside cook county due to the high taxes. It's kinda sad that the politicians are that dumb and are hurting the city an county.
Just heard for a reliable source that our FOP is selling our FOP building to the Mayor's Nephew for a "fair price" and then the mayor is giving them a new office on the 5th floor of city hall. One FOP leader said that the membership should have total confidence that the leadership "in no way will be tainted by this move and will continue to fight for a fair contract for it's members."
And when do we get our retro pay and cost of living increase?
OT
Just wondering, when is the next mayoral election and who the hell is going to run against shortshanks? Is the GOP working on an "elect-able" person? Will someone in the "independent" mode step up? Our city council $ucks his ball$ at every meeting. This city is a disgrace.
How re-electable is Daley? His poor reaction to the snowy and slippery streets smell of Bilandic. He's selling off anything he can for $$ and nothing will be left in the future for our city. How much will it cost to buy-back everything he has sold to private corporations? What about his midnight raid on Meigs field? When will this guy be stopped?
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
1/02/2009 02:22:00 PM
A #1 - You are more than likely not the CPD. I apologize if I am wrong, but you seem to be straight out of Iowa City, Madison or some other Bullsh#t Honkey-tonk river city you were forced to inhabit as a youth. The afore-mentioned being said, are you willing to realize that you should not post sh*t about others who do 'still have an occupation, albeit one that has been stripped from its' original facade, such as ours, from a mayor who has turned a once proud occupation into something that the majority of "Patrolman" are uneasy to admit in these times. Think about this, out-of-school-no-job-attorney(wannabe esquire), many of us on this Department know quite a bit more about the law than you will ever realize, because after we set our heads on our pillows, we know we did our best, whereas you will continue to grandstand and attempt to demean a profession which allows your chicken-sh*t ass to do the same...signed a po who knows/knew many men and women who deserved to be addressed as Esq., simply because they were...
I've worked mids. in 004 for four years and seen a lot of sgt.'s come and go. some good, some bad. I'll say this without the slightest bit of hesitation. This sgt. is a good one. Our thoughts and prayers are with you. Get well soon sarge.
To the unemployed attorney from a prestigous law school that cant find a job!
Hope you typed up your post during the night time hours because we all know that you have to be back in your box before the sun comes up!
Daley doesn't give a shit between two peg legs about the real tax payers, he knows we're fed up with his bullshit... wtf you think he made this a sanctuary city? so the illegals can keep putting his ass back in office... you don't have to be a native born u.s. citz to vote here...just essentantially "prove residency" to become a registered voter... that's why shortshanks can claim a mandate of %80+ with a %25 voter turn out... keep letting him & these alderfools getting re-elected... anyone who poses a challenge is destroyed (Miriam Santos), pushed out (Paul Vallas) or taken for a ride on the wings of a "grassroots campaign" for higer elected office... ("Jesse jr., Barack...youz guys really don't wanna play on da Chicago stage, it's small taters, tell ya what... we'll be behind youz for Senator/Congressman/dog-nutz checker...")
My friend your I.Q. is very high and you are very correct. Please take some amino acids with vitamin E and call me in the morning.
My girlfriend is a VP of Human Resources and has worked in both the public and private sectors. I asked her to weigh in on this issue of the change in pre-tax to post-tax deductions. She tells me that no change could be made during the insurance year because all insurance plans are filed with the IRS but that changes can be made every open enrollment period. If there was a change made to how our portions of the premiums are paid, then it would have been listed in our open enrollment materials. Anyone remember seeing/reading that? I didn't bother to even look at mine. She also pointed out that is more likely that new payroll file(s) for 2009 insurance premium deductions were not coded as "section 125" which means pre-tax deductions and says it's likely that will be corrected. Apparently payroll systems have to "turn that pre-tax feature on" every year. She further states that there is no benefit to a company (or our city) to take the deductions on a post-tax basis whatsoever and the only benefit is that the pre-tax deductions is to reduce the tax liability for employees. So, the city would have no reason at all to change our deductions to post-tax.
OK, before you all blast me for this post let me just tell you fellow officers that she really is an expert in this field (and has even been approached to help get our new contract ratified.
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
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wah! Wah! go create your own blog douche. Funny how you made the wrong career path. But you thought the title would get you laid every night at richards or any other bar on halsted/milwaukee/grand.
thought about buying a new car but then thought about the sales tax. $1500 - $2000 in taxes to buy a car because i live in chicago. go fuck your self.
i will NEVER buy a new car as long as i live in this area. no one likes paying taxes but we do because we need to pay for government services. but when you get to the tipping point that we have gotten to people just stop spending money because they feel like they are getting fucked.
and we are getting fucked.
all non emergency workers in chicago, cook county, and the state of illinois say hello to my new friend:
HIS NAME IS THE 32 HOUR WORK WEEK!
Problem: to many workers
Solution: less workers or less hours worked by workers.
PROBLEM SOLVED.
GO TO CRAIN CHICAGO BUSINESS AND LOOK AT THE COLLECTION OF LISTS. ONE IS THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN CITY, COUNTY, AND STATE.
U GUESSED RIGHT
CHICAGO
COOK COUNTY
STATE OF ILLINOIS
ALL THE BIGGEST EMPLOYERS.
DOES THAT SHIT SANDWICH TASTE GOOD. TAKE ANOTHER BITE, AND ANOTHER, AND ANOTHER.
WTF
"I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney."
Here's a thought:
Get off your ass, go out and commit a criminal act, get yourself arrested, charged, and indicted, then hire yourself to defend you.
Charge yourself full boat.
If you win, pat ourself on the ass.
If you lose, sue yourself, and retain yourself as the lawyer representing both your plaintiff self and your defendant self.
That way, you can collect your fee whether you win or lose your civil case.
My girlfriend is a VP of Human Resources and has worked in both the public and private sectors. I asked her to weigh in on this issue of the change in pre-tax to post-tax deductions. She tells me...
OK, before you all blast me for this post let me just tell you fellow officers that she really is an expert in this field (and has even been approached to help get our new contract ratified.
1/03/2009 12:12:00 AM
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First, you posted a nice, cogent explanation and thanks to the girlfriend for the info. But, did you not read the earlier responses? We already knew it was a simple error.
Keep her; your girlfriend sounds smart. And gainfully employed.
To all you whiny bitches complaining about the atty., so what if he isn't the police he is right, some of you on this job don't deserve it or respect it, you are the ones who need to go. Those of you who still wanna be the "police" but are held down by the 5th floor cronies, God bless and be careful...
the medical went from pre tax to after tax which raises your taxable income by the amount of the cost of insurance. my insurance is 72.00 a check. this will raise my taxable income by 72.00 x 26. wonder if we can deduct it at the end of the year? called f o p they said they would post something as soon as they have an answer.
OK, before you all blast me for this post let me just tell you fellow officers that she really is an expert in this field (and has even been approached to help get our new contract ratified.
1/03/2009 12:12:00 AM
Thanks for the info and I sure hope that no one would blast you since you were just trying to help out.
Anonymous said...
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
1/03/2009 12:39:00 AM
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I've ridden in many a squad car next to attorneys with police uniforms on. They couldn't hack it as a lawyer either and joined the CPD.
Anonymous said...
And when do we get our retro pay and cost of living increase?
1/02/2009 11:22:00 PM
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Oh that's a good one, wait till I stop laughing, oh my side hurts, jeez, I'm crying on my keyboard that is so funny. When do we get our what??? Retro pay and cost of living? Ha! Did you feel that sharp pain in the anal region just now? Thank Dick Daley for that.
THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE US ANY RETRO AND HAVE NOT BUDGED OFF THEIR INITIAL MONETARY OFFER!!!!!
So go out there and write your tickets and prevent those homicides and keep waiting for retro and cost of living. Get a jar of vaseline too and give yourself some lube, it makes getting reemed a little easier to take.
CODE BROWN said...
Fuckin union dues up .50c! Why does that have to go up? I guess they're just taking a page out of the da mayor's "tax em tax em tax em" book. We haven't had a raise in a long time and everything around us keeps going up. So why would our own union raise our dues in a time like this? Maybe they're just keeping up with the cost of living? Hey, FOP can you get us a raise that keeps up with the cost of living too? What does the FOP really do for us? We never hear from them until it's time to vote or when they want to sell us the BS contract they got us. We can't trust the leadership of department and now our own FOP too! Good times lets work extra hard.
1/02/2009 10:34:00 PM
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If you went to any meetings or read the newsletter you would know that the State Lodge FOP and the National Lodge FOP both raised their dues. We pay dues to those organizations also, they are included in our twice monthly deductions.
They are pass through increases, that is, the FOP Lodge 7 has no choice but to pass the increase along. Our own FOP lodge did NOT increase dues, it was State and National, complain to them. The State FOP is nearly busted and needed more of an increase than what they got.
It will go up again next year also.
Anonymous said...
I hate to stick up for the FOP, BUT, if any of you kept up with all the newsletters they send out plus the letters from the National FOP you would know that they raised the dues structure LAST summer at the NATIONAL Convention.
Your PAID UNION REP should have told you as they all go for FREE! Plus all the rep's get ALL their dues refunded every year at the REP'S Christmas Party!
Every member of every lodge has to pay that extra $.50 per month, so just pay it!
Bunch of windy bitches, READ those LETTERS!
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1/02/2009 10:23:00 PM
Not entirely true. We do NOT get ALL dues refunded, only that portion that goes to Lodge 7.
Unit Reps are NOT paid. Their only monetary compensation is the dues refund they get in December, about $420. A year.
Want to be a Unit Rep for $420 a year and a free corned beef dinner in December? You're welcome to it. Just go to a minimum of 5 Meetings a year, most go to more. And then listen to all the crap from officers moaning about everything under the sun in the districts and units.
Run for Unit Rep, you too can have that cush job that can't be given away in most districts. Be grateful anyone will do it at all.
Anonymous said...
when am i getting my FOP book?
1/02/2009 12:55:00 PM
TO ALL: All FOP books were mailed out by the second week in December. Go blame the US Postal Service.
Go to FOP Hall for a free replacement book or see your Unit Rep.
All books were mailed, you don't believe that the honorable postal workers know what is in those FOP envelopes and take them or throw them away?
I got mine by Dec 16.
Anonymous said...
O.T.
IN 016 AN ILLEGEAL IMMIGRANT OF POLISH DECENT DRIVING IN HIS CAR HITS A COPS LITTLE BROTHER WHILE HE IS RIDING HIS BIKE. OFFICER ON SCENE WHO IS ALSO POLISH MAKES THE COPS LITTLE BROTHER BOX 1, WOULDNT INTERVIEW THE KID TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. EVEN THOUGH THIS IMMIGRANT WENT THROUGH A LIGHT AND WHAKED THE KID SENDING HIM THROUGH HIS WINDSHEILD. WAY TO LOOK OUT FOR YOUR OWN FUCKING JAG OFF...HAPPENED 02 JAN 09 APPROX 1400-1500 RIGHT BY ST. PATS HIGH SCHOOL. FUCKING PRICK HOPE I GET THE PAPER WHEN SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY HAS SOME SHIT HAPPEN TO THEM.......
1/02/2009 08:10:00 PM
Bicycle cannot be unit 1. In fact the traffic crash forms have changed in 2009. The officer who completed the report is wrong. The sgt who signed the report is wrong. CPD has a horrible reputation for incorrect traffic crash reports. Officers make numerous errors. Many officers do not know how to determine unit 1. The brother of the injured boy should demand an amended report to correct the mistakes. Supp reports are not used in 2009. Officers need training for new reports.
Current City offer is 1.5% first year, 17.5% total after fifth year of a new contract. NO RETRO CHECKS as the City got away with it in the contract with other City employees. Suck it up. The City was close to settling with the captains union until they came up with this BS and the capts said no way. Can you spell arbitration?
To the unemployed lawyer I say you are a complete failure all that education and your not even clerking. If your parents paid your tuition they must be filled with shame. I can tell your a fucking fool because the only reason we are fighting back is because the city is trying to take away our pensions , health care and benefits promised us when we tested on the job. You would whine too if the govt. set a limit on how much lawyers could make per year than again you cant even find a job. Loser.
To the unemployed lawyer...
1. defer those student loans
2. take many police tests
3. look for jobs in the public sector (sorry not juicy bonuses or club memberships)
4. take the fire department test when available
5. humble yourself!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
1/03/2009 12:39:00 AM
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I've ridden in many a squad car next to attorneys with police uniforms on. They couldn't hack it as a lawyer either and joined the CPD.
1/03/2009 06:52:00 AM
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Your right on 06:52 AM. I know many who started out as CPD then became a lawyer and were successful but I also know those who became lawyers first then could not make it then had to become something else to support themselves. Its fun to watch these A$$hole attorneys with their superiority complex crash and burn.
FUCK YOU ORANGE!!! I swear to Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ that orange will no longer be welcome or accepted in this world!!!
1/02/2009 09:41:00 AM
I see where you are going, but you are comparing apples to oranges!
WTF!!!! I JUST REALIZED HOW MUCH I HATE THE COLOR ORANGE TOO!!!!!
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
1/02/2009 02:22:00 PM
"unemployed attorney"??? Well, good for you, punk. Couldent make it by getting a real job in this big, bad world, we see. Have fun in the unemployment line, sucker! Better yet, ask some of your "fellow attorneys" for a hand-out, see how far that gets you!
Boycott TRs, waitresses & bartenders have no recollection of how this Off Duty Sgt got injured. They refused to talk to detectives. He was watch secretary after he took a bullet for this job!!
TRs is a Sh!thole anyways.
what about all the other cops that were in there, any recollection??
T.R's Pub, a pit of drunken losers, alkie's and bustouts. Look around the area on weekend nights, especially in summer, underage punk dunken kids everywhere, no beat cars to keep it in check, always being taken off the beat and sent east.. Tried calling numerous times, no response. This summer, I'm video recording it all. Well wishes and a full recovery for our injured Sgt.
Is that you Richie? stay upstairs in your room and be quiet...
And when do we get our retro pay and cost of living increase?
1/02/2009 11:22:00 PM
Nothing times nothing + nothing
It's fucking 50 cents, you cheap bastards. A month.
You piss out 100 times that each month in processed beer.
Rumor around 009 is that Gene dumped a female P.O. with 10 years on job from management on 2nd watch to 3rd watch on day of her father's funeral.....true Gene?
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What do you mean dumped?
She still has a job.
You still get paid no matter what hours you work.
ALL of our Mothers and Fathers are going to die one day.
It's a terrible same.
Someone should be kept on days for an entire year because you don't want to break the news to them on the day a family member dies?
If you really need days just transfer over to one district south, east or west.
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
Go to an employment website and type in Law Enforcement careers. There are dozens of them accepting applications right now. If your a lawyer as you say you are apply. Otherwise get your unemployed A** of the couch, writing responses on blogs and get yourself a job. Lastly dont tell me I should feel lucky to have a job. You chose your professional field. You also have a degree prior to going to law school. There's fifty states in the union...somebody needs a lawyer...please!
All you cry babies posting what the FOP does for you. I don't attend the meetings but once a year, but shut up! If you think you would be better off without being represented, quit and work for a department without it. You would be amazed what you have. I am not kissing the FOP's a ss but until you find something better, SHUT UP! All of you bitching, when was the last time you went to a meeting. Went to Springfield or D.C in May. Did anything other then bit*h on this blog. 50 cents, are you kidding me... Does the place you get your coffee or pop say anything to you when they give you a break or any place else. Shut Up already. Its embarrassing to see fellow officers crying about 50 frick'in pennies. To let you know how stupid you sound. Leave work about 43 seconds early once a period to make up the difference.
Anonymous said...
You guys are lucky to have jobs in a terrible economy. Please stop complaining and start counting your blessings. You have a City pension, health care, vacation, and sick leave. I along with ten million other Americans can't find a job and I graduated from a top law school. Signed an unemployed attorney.
1/02/2009 02:22:00 PM
an attorney sucks to be you kid,sell streetwise!
1/02/2009 04:57:00 PM
How about finding yourself a few of the gangbanging ghetto lottery winners. You'll never need another job. Didn't you hear, the City always pays, Lawsuits only!
The Sgt. is in very serious condition at a local hospital and remains unconscious.
from shaved's blog. please post and pray for him. he's a sgt in 4, m.d., and he used to be tact secretary in the 008th district.
1/02/2009 04:27:00 PM
This is a joke, right?
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not a joke. please pray for him. heard he's in a coma on a respirator and has had emergency brain surgery. paramedics said they found him face down in lot of trs in pool of his own blood. if anyone knows who did this to him-please call A/2. no suspects so far.
COOK THE BOOKS! COOK THE BOOKS!
Ive completely givin up going to Chicago Ridge Mall. I used to go there to get away from F*cked city on Cicero because of the Gangster Element. Went there a few days ago and it felt like I was walking on Cottage Grove on 3rd watch.
To unemployed lawyer:
I too am an attroney (admitted to practice in 2 states). How>?? I got a scholarship and am good at taking tests. What do I do?? I'm in law enforcement. Better job, better benefits, better time off, better co-workers, unlimited sick leave, and not as many arrogant pricks.
Hey unemployed lawyer,......the Army is always hiring.....
GCG
Can employees with Flexible Spending Accounts (FSA) submit this 01 Jan 09 Insurance Premium for reimbusement?? Everything I read about what qualifies says we can.
Who the hell is in charge of savings bonds now?
"...I hate everything orange..."
What did Pat Camden ever do to you?
City fireman here ours did the same things????? whats up with that?
Bicycle cannot be unit 1. In fact the traffic crash forms have changed in 2009. The officer who completed the report is wrong. The sgt who signed the report is wrong. CPD has a horrible reputation for incorrect traffic crash reports. Officers make numerous errors. Many officers do not know how to determine unit 1. The brother of the injured boy should demand an amended report to correct the mistakes. Supp reports are not used in 2009. Officers need training for new reports.
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biggest error: putting pending in the policy number in the insurance box, then when you try and call the insrance co. , they never heard of the guy. Pending = NO Insurance people...
Signed an unemployed attorney.
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good, one less snake to have to worry about.
"Bicycle cannot be unit 1. In fact the traffic crash forms have changed in 2009."
I haven't seen the new traffic crash reports, but a bicycle can be Unit 1. If the bicycle for example is going the wrong way on the street and collides head-on with a car, or if the bicycle rear ends a vehicle.
thought about buying a new car but then thought about the sales tax. $1500 - $2000 in taxes to buy a car because i live in chicago. go fuck your self.
the 10.25% sales tax does not apply to vehicle purchases.
Anonymous said...
To unemployed lawyer:
I too am an attroney (admitted to practice in 2 states). How>?? I got a scholarship and am good at taking tests. What do I do?? I'm in law enforcement. Better job, better benefits, better time off, better co-workers, unlimited sick leave, and not as many arrogant pricks.
1/03/2009 06:52:00 PM
AAAWWWWW, Come on now! We got a shit-load of arrogant pricks, just look around!
Re: union dues
Give a little SCC blogging time to reading-your-freakin-FOP-newsletter time!
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Anonymous said...
Signed an unemployed attorney.
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good, one less snake to have to worry about.
1/04/2009 12:55:00 PM
true, sell streetwise idiot!
Anonymous said...
Ive completely givin up going to Chicago Ridge Mall. I used to go there to get away from F*cked city on Cicero because of the Gangster Element. Went there a few days ago and it felt like I was walking on Cottage Grove on 3rd watch.
1/03/2009 06:26:00 PM
I agree the mall has gone to shit, Orland still is ok and Oakbrook cr is nothing but gang banging punk mall! Can you say "ghetto"?
"City fireman here ours did the same things????? whats up with that?
1/04/2009 08:34:00 AM"
Yearning to be amongst Real Heroes Cinderhead?
Go back to your bunkmate& your Bottle Lush...
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