Wednesday, June 17, 2009

Big Meeting Day!

In Dugan's letter, he announces a very important meeting:
  • In the next couple of days, I expect Area Deputy Chiefs and the ADS SFG to meet with your respective District/Unit Commanders and kick around ideas to accomplish the mission. Wednesday afternoon I will be meeting with the Deputy Chiefs to discuss what ideas you have come up with.
This is it! This is the big day! This is where our "WARRIOR LEADERS" determine the entirely new direction the Department will be taking! We are shivering with anticipation.

Of course, if this is like the last few meetings held downtown, Commanders won't be allowed to bring up issues like manpower shortages, equipment breakdowns and unrealistic expectations on an overburdened Patrol Division:
  • Don't let our previous ways of doing things get in the way of your creative ideas. I'm really tired of hearing "we can't do it because...." You have the mission, how are we going to get it done?
He's "really tired if hearing "we can't do it because..."" How about listening to the "because" and address that? That isn't whining - that's someone explaining the limits of human endurance, the assets required for a satisfactory job completion, prioritizing of jobs, and the frustration of coppers who have to execute the "mission" within an artificial time limit that doesn't take into consideration the reality on scene.

Prediction - not one single exempt member will stand up and say, "We are unable to accomplish the mission with the assets currently available." J-Fed, Bea, Dan, Jimmy won't allow that - they'll make noises and threaten to find someone who will "get the job done if you can't," completely disregarding that the next poor sap will have learned only to tell them what they want to hear and invent new and improved excuses for the shortfalls at the next "accountability" meeting.

The problem is the mission. At some point, we have to stop trying to go over the mountain and find a path around it. It might take a bit longer, but it's easier, the scenery is nicer and you end up where you wanted to be anyway. Again, this is a failure of leadership. Nothing less.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cant wait to see what wonderful new Missions they come up with.

Littering mission?

Drinking on the public way mission?

Smoking indoors mission?

horse carriages not cleaning up horse dung missions?

Ill stick to the lunch for the desk mission followed by the coffee for the desk mission

6/17/2009 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The type of ridicoulous ideas I would expect from our esteemed leaders would be as follows:

1. Have a press conference with the Sheriff and the States Attorney where the new initiatives will be announced and pretend like we are all friends.

2. Detail a car or two from quiet districts to busy districts.

3. Get more event numbers for missions that are not really being done in the first place.

4. Take the normal arrests and put them on some new form so that it will appear to be part of "Operation Useless" and get another event number.

5. Send out a fax decalring "zero tolerance day" and get another event number for that with the normal arrests for that day included on some new form, so it looks like there were "special zero tolerance" arrests made.

6. Make sure the helicopter gets event numbers of their own for all of the above missions so that it looks like they were involved in some way.

7. Put Leo in for another medal and declare the mission a success.

8. Make the MSF and TRU guys wear black BDU's

9. Ask Tom Skilling and Jerry Taft to give us more bad weather.

10. Appoint more meritoriously promoted supervisors who were never detectives to the detective division where they can "earn" their next merit promotion without ever being trained as a detective or ever solving a crime or working a case.

11. Under no circumstances are people who are experienced or qualified to do a particular job to be sent to actually do that job or teach ohters to do that job.

12. Hire more non-police to tell the police what to do. Pay them more and more money while refusing to give the police a raise or a contract for another few years.

13. Contact Interpol and ask them to file charges against Cozzi.

14. Contact the United Nations and ask them to file human rights charges against Cozzi.

15. Order new Tahoes for Ed Burkes detail.

6/17/2009 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you ever really take a look at the list of exempts he sent that email to? I counted 4 who have a working police career and half a brain. The rest should be in jail. What kind of genius strategies could these dumb fucks come up with? I say just call in the national guard for the summer.

6/17/2009 06:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP had 2 meetings over contract so far this month yet no update on website. Why is there always a huge lag between the meeting and an update on the FOP website. I always find information posted here before there.
I'm sure that it is because they are all to busy covering up their asses with the feds looking into pension fund mismanagement to avoid future jail terms.
Hey FOP this is why most of us believe you are all in bed with the city. Tell us what happened (they said, you said) and when the next meeting is going to take place.

6/17/2009 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Stop going over the mountain and go around it" - I don't agree. Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative. Let's just see if Dugan's plan is working before we decide not to go along. I'm just ready for a change SCC. No one else is coming up with any other ideas except wait and see. I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

6/17/2009 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Just watched Ozzie Guillen on the news talking about what a SHIT HOLE Wrigley Field is.He then tells the media interviewing him "funy thing is,you guys feel the same way and you never say anthing.WHY?" No response.TYPICAL.
Pretty funny how Ozzie proves how balless the woosies are,something thats been proven here time and time again.
THANKS OZ.

6/17/2009 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing what people will do for money! 140K plus and you will wipe anyone's ass! All these phony exempts are doing is just buying more time at their pay level so they can reach 60 ("I can't afford paying health insurance" even though POs having been doing it left and right) so I will just keep jerking Jody off until I get there! Another "phony" meeting, fiddling while Rome burns! The only job that turns men into boys!

6/17/2009 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT (sorry)
I'll be on furlo, away from a computer when they announce on 02 Oct 09, the winner of the Olympics.

With that in mind, I'd like to plagiarize a favorite term from SCC.

.."Bwaahahahahahaha!"
F*ck You, Daley (MY line) Thank You.

6/17/2009 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Been there done that at such meetings. It's the old "The Emperor has no clothes."

People who point out the emptiness of the pretensions of powerful people and institutions are often compared to the child who says that the emperor has no clothes.

6/17/2009 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan, I have no spot to protect, so I will speak feeely. We used to handle our Beats ourselves. We had enough cars and three, yes three, wagons. All that manpower roaming the Beats, looking for something to do. We learned how to find it and handle our ourselves. Selling out of a house? We'd grab some guys and take care of it. No calling in a specialized unit and washing our hands of it.

Manpower in the Districts prevented all sorts of problems from getting out of control. Now we do an IDSSR and hope some small group that works Citywide takes care of it. Manpower in the Districts should be your #1 goal.

If the Districts are stretched too thin, all the new guys have time to do is go fromm call to call. They learn no pro-active Police skills.

Now, where to get these bodies. Stop Centralizing! Pull back some of these PET units. Start with the Bait Car Unit. I almost fell out of my chair when I read that one. When we have lots of extra bodies, sure, throw the auto industry a bone and help create #s, but now? When we have no one man cars going out, put up that nonsense.

6/17/2009 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous THE OH-19 RANGER said...

Give aggressive Officers RANGER tabs
to be worn over their CPD shirt patches, that'll separate the workers
from the "malingerers"....

6/17/2009 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a suicide mission for the commanders. Just ride it out for as long as you can and kick back when you are busted down to a CPT or LT.

This is just like having a car with no gas in the middle of the desert and they expect you to drive them out of there. It's not gonna happen.

6/17/2009 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah sure dick Dugan! Lets get the mission done with what? No contract AGAIN, treated like shit by the city, no equipment, shit equipment, no manpower, no trust, media, lying bosses, Daley, J-Fed, YOU, clout merit promo's, double standards, different rules for different folks, fake fathers and rev's, SPARS and CR's for non-sense, back stabbing, self interested bosses, ASA's(also self interested),No trust in the leadership PERIOD, brass that is never accountable, law suits, corrupt politicians, corrupt court system, do more with less, did I mention no contract for 2 yrs? and your silly missions, you clown! etc. etc. etc.....Hope you can motivate the commanders to go back to the districts and lie to us so we work harder to promote your interests! I'm sure your not worried about our contract with your nice fat checks and company car.

6/17/2009 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about have a meeting about the Police & Fire contracts. Oh wait...that would slightly help raise moral. MY BAD!

You balless white shirt good for nothing ass kissers. stand up to that no good mayor of ours!

6/17/2009 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous DEERING DARLING said...

Let me handle all jobs in 009th district. ill terrorise the 10sector and harrass them and cuff them until crime goes down. im a menace out there and now that im on tact watch out.......the trains a coming at you.

6/17/2009 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They want ideas? Invite some real street supervisors and P.O.'s to the meeting and not the merit hacks or inside H.Q. people for ideas.

6/17/2009 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a wonder that J-Fed and the other 3 exempts can even spell "Accomplish". If there were 4 Stooges instead of 3, J-Fed and company would be it.

6/17/2009 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Claus von Stauffenberg said...

Have we ruled out a CPD hybrid version of Operation VALKYRIE?

6/17/2009 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Start will showing the troops you give a crap about accountibility:

- Dump Lilly Crump Hales

- Dump Beau Cuello

6/17/2009 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can only wonder what expertise and wisdom my “Warrior Leader’, 20 dist Commander Lucy Moy will bring to the table today. If they are looking for ideas on how to kiss the asses of higher-ups and politicians, while simultaneously treating those beneath with disdain, well, then she will shine today.

6/17/2009 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You call this a MISSION? Give me a break!

6/17/2009 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come up with all the ideas you want. I'm not doing shit till I get a contract, retro pay, and the release of Bill Cozzi. Thanks for paying me for doing NOTHING !

6/17/2009 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't say F*CK YOU enough to this breed of bosses we got.

6/17/2009 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT but had to share:

Mayor proclaims day to honor Milwaukee officers
By Linda Spice of the Journal Sentinel
Jun. 17, 2009 7:56 a.m. | Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett plans to proclaim Saturday as "TY MPD" Day in recognition of an event organized to "Thank Your Milwaukee Police Department!" following last week's shooting of two officers.

Barrett will announce the proclamation during a noon press conference Wednesday in the City Hall Rotunda, where he will also participate in selling T-shirts for the event. Shirts are $20 and proceeds will benefit a fund established to help officers injured in the line of duty.

Mayor Barrett will be joined by Chief Edward Flynn and representatives from Bell Ambulance.

The fund was created as a legacy to officers Bryan Norberg, 21, and Graham Kunisch, 26, who were both shot by an 18-year-old, Julius C. Burton, when they stopped him for questioning on the city's south side on June 9th. Burton remains in custody on two counts of attempted first degree intentional homicide, use of a dangerous weapon

6/17/2009 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Warrior without contract. Warrior need fire water. OOPS, warrior got jammed up for drinking firewater. Hi how are u, hi how r u, hi how r u.

6/17/2009 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dugan is starting to morph into the old Skelator.

6/17/2009 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm on a ping pong ball mission for 8 hours a tour--- bouncing from one end of the district to the other on job after job. my mission is to get thru my tour in one piece and also for the welfare of my fellow patrol officers and even the bosses. screw the numbers--- this is about survival--- i am sick and tired of the "pounding it home" mentality of the bosses these days--- we must get the numbers or else blah, blah, blah--- when the bosses have their accountability meetings they need to grow a set of grapefruits between their legs and tell the truth--- the cpd used to look like a shiny new vette but now looks like a worn out duster ====>-----

6/17/2009 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

solution= bring in retired copper Danny Lukensmeyer (south siders with some time on job know him) and have him relieve J-fed. End of story, problem solved. Besides, there's a bunch of retired exempts double dipping as we speak. Stay safe, and always remember that you are on your own.

6/17/2009 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE SOLUTION? Set up a MEETING! YEAH, THATS IT! LETS HAVE A MEETING! JODY WILL BE IMPRESSED AND I WILL LOOK LIKE A GENIUS! PLEASE, SOMEONE OPEN THEIR MOUTH ABOUT LACK OF MANPOWER, OR JUST SAY, "ITS NOT POSSIBLE" AND IM OFF THE HOOK!

6/17/2009 07:42:00 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The image of these idiots, political hacks, cheats and cock suckers all gathered around trying to knock their heads together hoping usefull will pop out is very amusing to me.

GOD I wish this could be recorded.

6/17/2009 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Dugan is starting to morph into the old Skelator.

Corliss???

Asshole old bastard

6/17/2009 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
FOP had 2 meetings over contract so far this month yet no update on website. Why is there always a huge lag between the meeting and an update on the FOP website. I always find information posted here before there.




The FLOP S_U_C_K_S when it comes to updated the website.

6/17/2009 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) I just subscribed to the suntimes, after reading how spielman is finally going after the king of all corruption the daley crime family! Then I read Higgins great cartoon it is funny shit showing daley as the fat pig "I dunno anything"!

6/17/2009 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6/17/2009 06:43:00 AM

Are leo's medals all legit? I thought he was a bodybuilder but he is getting fat. WDLD What does leo do? Last Time I heard he was driving around with a 'chase" vehile with 2 followers with big guns asked why he states "Thats how I roll" LOL!

Burkes detail already has 2 new crown vics and a fleet of "valets"

6/17/2009 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6/17/2009 07:43:00 AM

Your 100% correct! We are not doctors and don't need the specail type of bullshit! Put it all back to the ditricts where all the manpower can be accounted for and the job done! But you idiots with no brains cannot seem to do it!

6/17/2009 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Start will showing the troops you give a crap about accountibility:

- Dump Lilly Crump Hales

- Dump Beau Cuello

6/17/2009 09:04:00 AM
- Dump Ellyn Schmitz

6/17/2009 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can only wonder what expertise and wisdom my “Warrior Leader’, 20 dist Commander Lucy Moy will bring to the table today. If they are looking for ideas on how to kiss the asses of higher-ups and politicians, while simultaneously treating those beneath with disdain, well, then she will shine today.

6/17/2009 09:07:00 AM

What an ingrate. Jody gives you s leader like Lucy Moy and you still aren't happy? What does it take to make you recognize greatness when you see it? At 35th st she would lead by example. There were times when the fax machine was out of paper and....wait for it, instead of pulling someone from their work, she would put the paper in herself.

6/17/2009 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the poster that said this is Suicide night for the exempts, nothing could be more true.

The powers to be downtown or at Shitty Hall have put most of them in a bad spot. They have to be yes men or they are busted back down to Lt. How many of them can tell JFED, Dugan, Jackson or Cuello to pound salt and shove this job up their asses. Who is over 50, or for that matter has 20 years of service. I can only think of a few the rest have to put up with their bullshit and shake there heads yes.

They have really destroyed this department and now Digan wants to try and bring it back by using words such as WARRIOR, well Danny if you are reading this comment realize that it is too late.

We are done, hell even Gillespie Cozzi's attorney can see that and even more surprising can address it to the media.

Hey Dugan don't give yourself a heart attack just retire it really isn't worth it anymore.

6/17/2009 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JUST AN FYI:

JOHN FARRELL'S RETIREMENT PARTY IS FRIDAY JUNE 19th AT 6pm
IT IS AT PLUMBERS HALL 1340 W WASHINGTON

TICKETS AVAILABLE FROM COMMITTEE OR AT THE DOOR $50.00

THANKS TO A GREAT MAN!

6/17/2009 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, someone came up with the idea to put all the plain clothes units in uniform to make it look like there are more beat cops for the summer. All smoke and mirrors

6/17/2009 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pat McNulty, rest up. Then, please come back and take over this department after the Fed leaves.

6/17/2009 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What ever happened to the mobile pod camera mounted on a wagon idea? It was presented to potato head Ike at the hearings and I'm waiting for the press release telling me how successful it was.

I gots to know.

6/17/2009 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead of calling an area a level II DOC area, let's call it the "Double Secret Probation DOC Level Area."

Where's my award?

6/17/2009 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CAN I GET AN EVENT NUMBER????

6/17/2009 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got it, I got it:

MORE BULLSHIT, REDUNDANT PAPERWORK TO FILL OUT.

6/17/2009 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

9:02 AM ("Claus von Stauffenberg")

I, for one, neither appreciate nor condone your feeble attempt at humor.

6/17/2009 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

solution= bring in retired copper Danny Lukensmeyer (south siders with some time on job know him) and have him relieve J-fed. End of story, problem solved. Besides, there's a bunch of retired exempts double dipping as we speak. Stay safe, and always remember that you are on your own.

Seriously, what a great idea. Danny is Seiser

6/17/2009 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Stop going over the mountain and go around it" - I don't agree. Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative. Let's just see if Dugan's plan is working before we decide not to go along. I'm just ready for a change SCC. No one else is coming up with any other ideas except wait and see. I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

6/17/2009 07:24:00 AM

Come on, mr masters... you are NOT a police officer lol....

6/17/2009 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's in charge of getting the event number for the meeting? masters???

6/17/2009 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dugan wants ideas? It starts with leaders who can lead, who can be respected, who can stand up for whats right and accept responsibility when wrong. There is no room for patronage within the ranks of the police. Patronage breeds pansies who are afraid to make decisions and who always pass the blame least they fall out of favor with their sponsors. There is nothing more degrading than a man being a puppet for the patronage team.

6/17/2009 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dugan, You are spitting in the wind by threatening to move capts and lts who don't obey your useless orders. Just like you, they are are political chess pieces, ie fake police. They can neither be moved nor disciplined. They also cannot become what they never were in the first place, the police officers they replaced on the test lists in the first place. Since the beginning of time CPD has followed the lead of it's bosses. You reap what you sow. The current dept. of do-nothings is the result of bad leadership. Good cops won't follow an idiot into battle, no matter what, not ever. You can write all the letters you want and try to use to deaths of as many cops as you can and it's still never going to happen. Not in this lifetime.

6/17/2009 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

6/17/2009 07:24:00 AM"



What, specifically, do you think your job is?

Specifically.

6/17/2009 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you guys are all wrong the meeting is what to do with Lucios hair and the pole dancer in the traffic car..from a byrd in the know

6/17/2009 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Stop going over the mountain and go around it" - I don't agree. Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative. Let's just see if Dugan's plan is working before we decide not to go along. I'm just ready for a change SCC. No one else is coming up with any other ideas except wait and see. I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

6/17/2009 07:24:00 AM

Trust me, the majority of the CPD actually DO want to get out there and work. But these days, that will land you in call back, fired, sued and jail time. Believe me, even with the best of intentions, if you step one little crack out of the general orders or laws and J-f*ck will throw you right under the bus. Policing is all about split second decisions and reactions, some times you get things right and sometimes not, but it used to be that as long as you were out there trying and working you'd be ok. J-F*ck has never been "the police" so he has no idea how enraged you can get when some one for instance spits in your face. He just has no clue b/c he's never had to deal with this stuff. He's always been pushing some paper around or doing surviellence as a fed. Even though he thinks he probablly was doing police work, it's a totally different ball game. And until we get an actual Policeman in there, i would not do shit, only what's required. Hope this helps you out and keeps you from losing your pension.

6/17/2009 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Stop going over the mountain and go around it" - I don't agree. Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative. Let's just see if Dugan's plan is working before we decide not to go along. I'm just ready for a change SCC. No one else is coming up with any other ideas except wait and see. I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong, but I don't need to correct you. The city, media, department, J-Fed, CAMERAS, and Dugan will do that when you step on your dick. Unfortunately you will no longer be a member of the CPD family when they do.

The fact that you think Dugan has anything that remotely resembles a legitmate "PLAN" to accomplish anything really scares me. Either you have 2yrs or less on this job or you are truly lost and delusional my friend.

6/17/2009 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah bring back Danny 'Everyone Should Have a Take Home Car" Lukensmeyer. That might not make things better, but it sure will be interesting.

6/17/2009 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing keeping the crime anywhere near normal is the recordbreaking cool weather and record breaking rainfall amounts. If the sun ever starts shining and the rain stops falling for a few days this city will be a war zone. Wait for backup, write the reports for everything and be careful driving people dont pay attention to the flashing lights. Be safe and go home.

6/17/2009 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus F Christ Dugan!

You know what the problems are and how to solve them.

You know the importance of the patrol division but continue to disrespect it with the slow bleeding of their manpower to silly units.

You know you are in the middle of a leadership meltdown. Merit promotions, political mandated spots to fill, too much "reverend "imputs, at the expense of whom?
The:

Nonclouted hard workers, veterans with proven experiences, coppers begging for leadership and a fair chance to advance on their own ...
you know this! There has always been a pool of incredible knowledge in the ranks of the CPD.

Allowing your department to be placed and kept under the media thumb without any retort from their leaders, mayor bashed, micro managed, dead ended, and "butt-rangered" by virtually everyone outside the department as well as their own "bosses". You are one, you know this too.

The biggest gripe I have is that you know that there are men and women out there with so many good and potentially foolproof ideas to improve this department it would make your head spin....you know this too
You don't have to be an appointed boss to think or come up with creative ideas. Asking a few clouted pimps to attend a "meeting" is an insult to the men and women who really know because they are doing the job regardless. You know this.

Do you even read some of the postings in this blog? Some are excellent! Some are just complaints but there's a base to work from.
I could go on , you know this too.

What's wrong with your judgement?
Have you lost it?

Again, shame on you!

By the way, I write to Dan because at least he was the police once, the pud is a whore, right??? mike masters? Yeah, I thought so too.

6/17/2009 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dugan you could do what an old samuri warrior does when he fails. Walk out on Michigan ave. get on your knees and do the honorable thing you failure.

6/17/2009 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The more I read this blog, the more I'm convinced some moron brought the corporate world style of management to the CPD.

It's just not the way to run an agency that's sworn to uphold the law.

6/17/2009 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"No trust in the leadership PERIOD,"

funny

6/17/2009 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative.
===================================
Alternative? How about first starting with hiring more police so that the districts are fully staffed? How about having these "missions" really scrutinized before stripping P.O.'s from the districts?

Or, now I'll go out on the ledge here with this one, how about involving the rank and file in these decisions. Since we are the ones that are the first on the scene, maybe we might have some valuable input to give.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WTF am I thinking?

6/17/2009 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous THINK ABOUT IT said...

"PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING".

- Mayor Richard M. Daley


(REALITY IS MEANINGLESS)

6/17/2009 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about this for an idea, fix the complaint system. I didn't work my ass off,save my money, and buy a house, just so I can be labeled as a problem officer. 30 CRs in 5 years all of which were unfounded or not sustained. Why on earth would I put my livelihood and life that I have built on the line so that some asshole who wants to fight the police can sue me and hope that the city settles. I AIN'T DOIN' SHIT!!! If you fix the problem I am back to work tomorrow, until then I will drive around for eight hours looking at how this city is turning to shit. If somebody jumps into the back seat,they can go to the station, other than that I am listening to fiddle music while Rome burns.
OT: What ever happened to J-Fed and Tina's CR# from the third district on the man with a gun call?

6/17/2009 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about saying it like this: WE CAN DO IT WITH-
New Cars
Working equipment
More manpower
A city that backs is officers
A department that backs its officers
A contract deserving of its hard officers

What do you think is this a good start????

6/17/2009 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just go out and do your job the right way- thats all he's asking...Instead there are a million excuses, and its not because of Cozzi...Just dog ass lazy cops who use Cozzi as an excuse because they are too scared to deal with the shitheads...If u dont want to do anything, fine just STFU about how u used to do all this real police work but without a contract u wont do shit...We just had a copper killed by these animals and still excuses...yeah things have changed a lot in even ten years but dont lay down for these animals on the street...We have to live here and we have to work out there...This department aint changing any time soon, so if you are done doing everything, great just stop selling your bullshit...sick of hearing it and reading it.

6/17/2009 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These pompuos, arrogant, rich bosses aren't smart enough to figure out why morale and trust are so low. There are dozens of reasons, but the way the mayor treats us and working for so long without a raise(again)are some of the main reasons. This department focuses on only the negative and will wait several years to hand out an award, but if you miss court they fast track the paper and have it finished and in your jacket in less than two weeks.

Between J-fed screwing Cozzie, the mayor and now Dugan using a terrible incident to promote his own self interests, we lost all trust. RIP CPD!

6/17/2009 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just heard that all Tactical teams and specialized units in Patrol are to be in uniform throughout the entire summer due to manpower shortages. Is there any truth to this?

6/17/2009 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They will just get more event numbers for more fake silly missions. The silly missions are a huge morale killer too. They make us feel like were not the police, only children that have to be guided by the great command staff. I haven't felt like the police for the past three years and many say the same thing.

6/17/2009 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Stop going over the mountain and go around it" - I don't agree. Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative. Let's just see if Dugan's plan is working before we decide not to go along. I'm just ready for a change SCC. No one else is coming up with any other ideas except wait and see. I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

6/17/2009 07:24:00 AM

your wrong

6/17/2009 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard aunt B is gonna be serving beverages at the meeting.

6/17/2009 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck em all, a bunch of goof-balls. Not one has the balls to go to Daley with the problems, all afraid for their presious 'spots'.

6/17/2009 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about meeting with Daley, the satan run mainstream news media, the jitney 'reverends' CAPS hacks, merit Stooge supervisors, etc, and staying in confrence until theycome up with what we've known all along. You CAN'T have it both ways. Make up your minds. Treat us fairly with Contracts, raises, promotions, good equipment, etc; stop allowing the news media to sandbag us to take the public eye off the real corruption going on, give us competent supervision who can do their jobs without fear of being dumped for standing up for a P.O. Det; etc. and stop operating the Dept. with a Flea-Market mentality.

6/17/2009 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make Leo Shmits Superintendant, and give him an office with solid mirrors for all 4 walls.

6/17/2009 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how about a "Warrior Ribbon" most b.s. arrests, curfews and bus checks?

6/17/2009 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's amazing how these great Warrior Leader Supervisors get paid so much, but can't really do exactly what they are paid for.....

6/17/2009 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Burge for Supt.
Lukensmeyer for 1st Deputy
Snithens for Chief of Patrol
Daley for Dog-Catcher

6/17/2009 01:10:00 PM  
Blogger Phil Schitz here said...

"Tomahawk Dan" will lead his warrior nation! (War drums are heard in the background as the metting progresses. Watch out for those smoke signals coming from the roof at 35th Street! Wooo! Wooo! We got a war party!

It's a matter of time until Phil Schitz comes up with a good post about this warrior shit. In the mean time, stay tuned to Shaved and SCC. They probably have the same idea.

6/17/2009 01:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ummmmm...I got an idea. Get rid of all the exempts...all of them. Take J-Fed too. Break any ties with the ASA's Office. Break ties with the Aldermen. Break ties with the media...this Department can operate with Rank of Captain to PPO's. The Senior Capatin would be the Top Boss. Cuts out the B.S. saves money, puts more coppers on the street and we make the arrests. Force the ASA's to do their jobs...not blame us. Cover us against bullshit lawsuits, don't bow to public pressure...you want a safe city...just as I do because I have to live here too...then let us do our JOBS!!!! But don't kick us in the ass every chance you get. Number one rule for any one in power...take care of your soldiers first. You want loyalty...it's a two way street. Sorry...I don't have much respect for these so called bosses of ours. They think they are better than us and every chance they get, they shove that in our faces. More rules, more restrictions, accountability...for what? Soon I'll have to explain why I looked at some jagoff the wrong way. This department has come up with so many rules that it literally has strangled the working copper. Shit I probably violate rules everyday, not on purpose, but because there are so many of them, you don't know what the hell is going on. Keep it simple...bad guy does something wrong...arrest him. Prosecute him. Send him to jail. We know are jobs..we know what to do. But there is a real fear here now...that if you do something...you might lose your job...even if you are right. If you are connected...you get a break...if not...you won't. Used to be...better off judged by 12 than buried by six...now it's better off not to be buried or judged...better off to stay totally safe. It's time to really scrap this whole department and start over with a new fresh approach. There has got to be a Department in this country that is working well...coppers enjoy doing their jobs and morale high.

6/17/2009 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prediction - not one single exempt member will stand up and say, "We are unable to accomplish the mission with the assets currently available."
--------------------------------
I predict at least one of them will say something along the lines of:

"As you know, you go to war with the Army you have. They're not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time."

There is some wisdom in that adage.

6/17/2009 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Academy range is 100% shut down due to lead contamination. No idea when it will reopen.

6/17/2009 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i work in one of those "pet" units and would gladly go back to patrol if it would help. All that would happen is the dogs would be bigger dogs. The thing that needs to be fixed is front line supervision. The sgts and lt's want to be everyone's friend so they are afraid to call a dog a dog. Start doing your job sgt, don't let these people stay down for a hour on jobs that should take 5 minutes. This also goes for our unit, there are pets within the pet unit, they are worse than the dogs.

6/17/2009 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, that's the ticket. Bring back Lukensmeyer. Give him a car that he won't have to hide in his garage this time.

6/17/2009 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked with Lukensmeyer in 009. He was a brass balled no nonsense street smart cop who backed down more than one boss and made the Department eat their own crap several times. I"m retired but I would come back to cover his back.

6/17/2009 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Retired A/6 said...

OH-19 Ranger

You sir are a softball.

6/17/2009 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 07:24 AM,
Does it really matter what the plan will be? I am not opposed to a plan just to be opposed. I am opposed to a system that will sacrifice us at any cost and will turn their backs on us in a split second.

How many times are we going to take the "nod and wink" from a boss to do a job that will bite us in the ass only to hear from the same boss that we should have known better? THEY RELY ON OUR WORK ETHIC TO GET THE JOB DONE BUT BURY US WITH THE SAME HAND THAT SHOOK OURS A WEEK AGO!
No plan that they come up with will work simply because no matter how much you beat a dead horse it won't plow. They took years showing us how much they would screw us and gave us solid examples of such but now then they are in a vice they want to use us to help them get out. This is the monster they created. This department is packed to the rafters with good, honest, hard working police but none of us can show it for fear of prosecution or just straight out crucifixion at the hands of the reverends, politicians and media.
The bottom line is that they don't want us to do our jobs correctly. We CANNOT lay hands on people when need be, we CANNOT make a solid case on anything without the states attorney's being more concerned about their conviction rates rather than what is legal and illegal and we CANNOT work with the lack of proper equipment and vehicles. Anybody out there that can come up with a resolution that does not begin with the bosses and city hall backing us up i would like to hear it. I still LOVE this job after 11 years and still love serving the citizens that deserve it but when it comes to the madness that this job has become and walking the tight rope every day between making sure my partner and i go home and worrying about getting sued for b.s. it's no wonder this department is a mess. Anyway, i love all of my brothers and sisters out there and appreciate every one of you no matter how long or short you have served. We have all taken up a noble cause under a terrible dictatorship but as long as we take care of each-other first we will always win.

6/17/2009 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Just crossing the news wires, mayor freido, just inked the deal with the olympic assholes that gurantees we will pay for any cost over runs! He promised the taxpayers would pay nothing, but business would pay for the bullshit! Another fucking daley LIE! Come On Robert Grant (FBI) and Pat Fitz where you guys at? Lock up this criminal mastermind!

6/17/2009 02:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical day at work:

1500 hrs. Get event number for Roll Call.

1530 hrs. Get event number for getting your radio and car keys.

1540 hrs. Put in a To-From for your lunch time but don't forget an event number holding yourself down while doing your To-From.

1600 hrs. Grab an event number clearing yourself from the station.

1605 hrs. Get a Special Event event number holding yourself down helping some the "Honor Students" at your local high school helping them with their homework and teaching them about life.

1730 hrs. Get an event number for an outdoor roll call where Boo-Boo shot Moo-Moo over the color of his gym shoes the night before.

1800 hrs. Get an event number for your lunch being declined because your in a back log.

1805 hrs. Get event number for Pothole mission

1845 hrs. Get event number for seatbelt enforcement mission where Boo-Boo shot Moo-Moo over the color of his gym shoes the night before.

1930 hrs. Get event number because the deputy was driving through the district and noticed some guy sitting on his porch doing nothing but was breaking some law that he can't think of at the moment.

2030 hrs. Get event number for lunch denied again because you are now in RAP because one of Moo-Moo's boys shot one of Boo's-Boo's boys in the pinky. Additional event numbers for walk around the block mission, look in the car mission, check telephone poles mission.

2245 hrs. Get an event number for all the event numbers you got during the night.

2100 hrs. leave work

6/17/2009 03:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I want to know if I follow the law as I know it will I be a proublem.

6/17/2009 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a great quote in the comments section of the newspaper. It was from the article on the police chase in 011. The author said of the Chicago police " Never have so few been asked to do so much with so little." That says it all.

6/17/2009 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like the FOP is trying to protect on eof thier own.Whats up in 24th dist with FOP REP SD and A baby mama kid,for agg batty to police.

6/17/2009 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm on a ping pong ball mission for 8 hours a tour--- bouncing from one end of the district to the other on job after job. my mission is to get thru my tour in one piece and also for the welfare of my fellow patrol officers and even the bosses. screw the numbers--- this is about survival---


***** 10-4 ***** It should be the goal of all of us.

6/17/2009 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come up with all the ideas you want. I'm not doing shit till I get a contract, retro pay, and the release of Bill Cozzi. Thanks for paying me for doing NOTHING !

** I ain't doing anything but handling my jobs - with or without a contract.

6/17/2009 03:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Safety first.

6/17/2009 03:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I can only wonder what expertise and wisdom my “Warrior Leader’, 20 dist Commander Lucy Moy will bring to the table today. If they are looking for ideas on how to kiss the asses of higher-ups and politicians, while simultaneously treating those beneath with disdain, well, then she will shine today.

6/17/2009 09:07:00 AM


I KNow..wax on..wax off

6/17/2009 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:24 A.M., Do Nothing and you will do nothing wrong!

6/17/2009 04:10:00 PM  
Anonymous dugansnuts said...

The limits of human endurance!! Reel it in a little boys. Stay frosty.

6/17/2009 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan Lukensmeyer, yeah right; I worked with him and he was the "Real Police" for a different time. Good Cops like him go to jail now for doing the job.

Liberals are ruling/screwing the world. Wonder when we will hit bottom. Stay safe, keep your heads down.

Signed,

"Confused" - Too young (39 yoa) to be an Old Timer, too much time on (18 years) to be young; confused???

6/17/2009 04:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I resent that, my 1970 Duster never looked this bad

6/17/2009 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with that comment: bring back the real police like Lukensmeyer or Sneethen and the many gone. They would bring this police department back to where it belongs. The shitheads would respect/fear the police like they should and the public would get real service wether they deserve it or not!

6/17/2009 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Stop going over the mountain and go around it" - I don't agree. Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative. Let's just see if Dugan's plan is working before we decide not to go along. I'm just ready for a change SCC. No one else is coming up with any other ideas except wait and see. I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

6/17/2009 07:24:00 AM
***********************************

Consider yourself corrected, kissass noob.

Another noob still stuck in the clouds that thinks their gonna make a difference, accomplish such great things that those before them for the last 172 years just couldn't figure out.

There's nothing TO figure out. YOU aren't REQUIRED to FIND some solution. You're job is to do what you're told and go the fuck home after 8 hours, nothing else.

You're apparently unable to understand a greater picture and responsibility than the two feet you assume you see in front of you. Perhaps it's your liberal upbringing clouding what would otherwise be common knowledge to anyone who's not wearing rose colored glassess.

Don't cry because you don't understand politics and find yourself unable to take an active part in those politics as the opposition to a criminal mayor and his regime.

This is a war between dickhead daley and US. The people of this city are the pawns we BOTH use against one another to accomplish our goals.

OUR goals, being a fair wage increase to tolerate this shithole of a city we're forced to live in and be taxed in.

SHITHEAD'S goal, being to find new and interesting ways to make bleeding heart saps like yourself believe YOU have to sacrifice YOUR family's welfare so HE can continue skimming unpaid wages, suspension day cash returns and any randomly dreamed up bullshit tax , all in the hopes that he can make one final golden fleece lining in the ever deep pockets of his closest real estate developer allies a.k.a. "the mob" with golden dreams of olympic bankruptcy for the city of chicago.

You keep crying for argentina kid, those of us with more than a minute in this life and on this job will continue to treat it as it was and always will be, a fucking job, nothing more.

And as for Dugan's bullshit, you just can't see the reality of shit when you look at it I guess.

If Dugan's gonna be the savior and genious who saves this city and it's police department, why the FUCK does he have to ASK how to accomplish the job from LESSER subordinates? Why?

Because HE has no idea. Because HE intends to BLAME those around him for the inevitable failure that will occur this summer.

Parent's don't ask their kids how to do their job, The great Dugan shouldn't need to ASK subordinates how to do HIS job either.

He's a grandstanding bullshit artist looking to blame someone else for the failure of HIS responsibility, which is PUTTING IN WRITING HIS DIRECT ORDERS ON WHO, WHEN, HOW AND FOR WHAT HIS DREAM UNITS ARE TO MAKE ARRESTS.

But he won't kid, because he does what all great bulshitters of his kind do, talk a great toughguy game then run the other way when you do what he tells you to do.

Dugan's another whimp afraid to take responsibility for issuing any real orders that will get him sued and sent to jail.

6/17/2009 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong"

Nobodys stopping you Serpico, but when you find your tit in a wringer& are 30 pending don't come w/the hat in hand asking for financial assistance. I'll just give your fuck everyone else quote back & laff in your pathetic moronic, soon to be unemployed face.

6/17/2009 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger Elm Creek Smith said...

1. Warn a bad guy with a gun one time to drop it. If he doesn't, drop him. Once the illegally armed realize that waving around a gun may just be a death sentence, they may be a bit more circumspect.

2. Any criminal resisting arrest needs to be subdued until resistance is the last thing on his mind. No boots to the head, guys, but he needs to understand the futility of fighting.

3. A 9-1-1 call from a police officer must be treated as priority unless it is a supervisor with a fear of sprinklers. (Sorry, guys, but I couldn't resist.)

4. Take police cars away from anyone who isn't a street cop and issue them Chevrolet Aveo sedans. If you aren't going to chase someone, you don't need a big V-8 or V-6.

5. No one should supervise anyone whose job they have not ever done. This should be a law, not a police reg.

6. Give rifles to the old guys first. They can't be chasing kids in felony shoes.

7. If the law allows aldermen to carry guns, they don't need police officers as bodyguards/security. If aldermen can carry guns, why can't law-abiding citizens?

That's just off the top of my head, but I'll make book that none of these come out of the "Big Meeting Day!"

ECS

6/17/2009 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now that someone mentined it, the department began to fall after Danny Lukensmeyer retired. The last of the real cops. Greatest partner you could ever work with. Bring him back as Superintendent, head of the academy and every recruits FTO. After working with him you knew how to be the police. Danny maybe you caN BORROW YOUR BALLS TO THE BOSSES.

6/17/2009 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous The Other White Meat... said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Stop going over the mountain and go around it" - I don't agree. Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative. Let's just see if Dugan's plan is working before we decide not to go along. I'm just ready for a change SCC. No one else is coming up with any other ideas except wait and see. I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

6/17/2009 07:24:00 AM

Is your skull that thick?? The other ideas are...In case you missed it...
*More officers on the street
*Working equipment, you know, like PDT's, cars, etc.
*More bodies in the districts

You know, I don't know if your ignorant, (Have no knowledge of whats happening), stupid, (Have knowledge, but still don't get it), or obtuse, (Have knowledge, but ignore it). Meetings will solve nothing when the answers have been posted on this blog for months, nay years!

(Wow, I did that without all caps).

In addition, you have to check your premise. You assume that the people involved in this "meeting" have the ability to make decisions based on experience and ability. The current "management" of the CPD are a bunch of cowering jackasses. They know the solution, they can do something about it, but they do not have the testicular fortitude to do anything beneficial.

By the way, I should have known you were a goof when you said in your post, "I'm just ready for change". What an ass. Hows that "change" workin out from the anointed one.

You go out, do your job, and "fuck everyone else". And then, maybe, your fellow officers will have a nice "benefit" for you as a going away present.

Consider yourself corrected.

6/17/2009 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will the bosses whimper? Will he put the fear of doogie hauser into them? Will some bosses stand up for themselves? Will moves be made? Who gives a shit! See you later same bat time, same bat channel! Will commissioner Gordon be involved? Quick j-fed the bat phone! This job is nothing but a comic sketch, shadow of the former strong leadership who got respect! These guys are like the stooges!

6/17/2009 05:44:00 PM  
Blogger ironcross said...

It's like the last days of the Third Reich, everyone is afraid to mention that the Russians are at Berlin and the Whermacht has nothing left.

(In this scenario Hitler is played by Daley and Himmler is played by Weis)

Instead the high command makes up units that will never function as desired, and to do so strips manpower from the units that need the men. Think I'm being hysterical...they were drafting soldiers and sailors into the SS from other services by the end. And everyone was afraid to say anything out of fear of personal retribution.

Stauffenberg's post was on target!

6/17/2009 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Stop going over the mountain and go around it" - I don't agree. Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative. Let's just see if Dugan's plan is working before we decide not to go along. I'm just ready for a change SCC. No one else is coming up with any other ideas except wait and see. I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

6/17/2009 07:24:00 AM

well said. I'm wit u. So now there's two.

6/17/2009 06:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Colonel von Stauffenberg,

I got a laugh about Valkyrie. However, the weisel and some of his fed buddies have the personality and sense of humor of a cactus plant.

6/17/2009 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP had 2 meetings over contract so far this month yet no update on website. Why is there always a huge lag between the meeting and an update on the FOP website. I always find information posted here before there.
I'm sure that it is because they are all to busy covering up their asses with the feds looking into pension fund mismanagement to avoid future jail terms.
Hey FOP this is why most of us believe you are all in bed with the city. Tell us what happened (they said, you said) and when the next meeting is going to take place.

6/17/2009 07:04:00 AM

?? And were you at any of those meetings?? I'm taking an educated guess and saying no.

Posting everything on the website is not all a good idea since everyone including the media gets to know what we are negotiating.

Go to the meetings or inquire with your unit rep. Doofy.

6/17/2009 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Operation VALKYRIE!
I like it! A pre-arranged meeting with Short-Shanks and J-Fed and their staffs. J. Carroll walks in with his valet Donny, who is handcuffed to a briefcase. Jimmy leaves Donny behind and quickly waddles his way into the night, leaving Donny to sacrifice himself for TEAM.

6/17/2009 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dump all the exempts especially that good for nothing pompous want-to-to be fed asshole PETERSON

6/17/2009 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I want to know if I follow the law as I know it will I be a proublem.

There are nine Supreme Court Judges...and they often disagree on the rule of the law to a 5 - 4 vote. So I would say chances are you would have a problem.

The Full Metal Jacket video had me rolling. Thanks SCC

6/17/2009 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lucy Moy, the oriental Lucille Ball.

6/17/2009 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You two guys go over that mountain and kick ass. You can have a joint benefit party and share a cell. I'll just sit on my ass. The worst that can happen is I get a low evaluation. Maybe J-Fed will give you guys your award in prison.

6/17/2009 07:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. Warn a bad guy with a gun one time to drop it. If he doesn't, drop him. Once the illegally armed realize that waving around a gun may just be a death sentence, they may be a bit more circumspect.

Elm Creek, actually this is how it should go; pump off three first, then whisper "police, drop it," then continue until slide lock. Lather, rinse, repeat.

6/17/2009 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...
solution= bring in retired copper Danny Lukensmeyer (south siders with some time on job know him) and have him relieve J-fed. End of story, problem solved. Besides, there's a bunch of retired exempts double dipping as we speak. Stay safe, and always remember that you are on your own.

6/17/2009 09:34:00 AM"

Great idea !!!! But, also bring back Harley Schinker. Lukensmeyer can be in charge of the "battle field", Schinker can massage Daley's prostate & get him his coffee. It's a job he invented. Just ask LeRoy !!!!!

6/17/2009 07:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop making PO's respond to nonsense calls and get back to the basics. Once that is done, there will be an improvement in police service and activity.

I go from job to job - hours old - only to code them. I spend my tour traveling from one end of the district to the next answering ridiculous calls. My activity is zero at the end of the tour. No time for street/traffic stops.

6/17/2009 07:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is FOP dropping the ball again by not having a follow-up police picketing of the TASTE? Are they afraid? Have they been promised something by DALEY to not stir up any more heat? Were they threatened? Why are they not making any future plans to do again what worked so well for us? Why, if they think it is wrong, don't they make a public statement to us? Why do they not come up with any alternatives
? When you see union workers doing a job related action they just don't do it once, they're out there every day and night, driving their point across. Are we not like they are? Don't we pay monthly dues to be represented correctly? Please answer up, Golden-Boy President Donohue....

6/17/2009 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deputy Chief Nicholas Roti
For Superintendent!!

6/17/2009 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop going over the mountain and go around it" - I don't agree. Sometimes we have to do what's hard because we can't see an alternative. Let's just see if Dugan's plan is working before we decide not to go along. I'm just ready for a change SCC. No one else is coming up with any other ideas except wait and see. I'm just one PO, but I'm tired of sitting and waiting. I'm going to do my job, fuck everyone else. I didn't join the CPD family to do nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not so much that your wrong, it's more that you're mentally challenged.

6/17/2009 08:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"These guys are like the stooges!

6/17/2009 05:44:00 PM"


At least the Stooges knew they were comedians.

6/17/2009 08:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"well said. I'm wit u. So now there's two.

6/17/2009 06:10:00 PM"



Let's TANGO!!!!!

6/17/2009 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This department aint changing any time soon, so if you are done doing everything, great just stop selling your bullshit...sick of hearing it and reading it.

If you really feel so strongly about it, stop reading the blog Mr. Masters.

6/17/2009 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Downtown wants Academy staff to do two (2) seatbelt missions a week.
No problem. Can do boss.

The question is, Seatbelt missions?

You could not think of anything better?

Of course not because it is not about reducing crime, it is about revenue!

6/17/2009 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I KNow..wax on..wax off

6/17/2009 04:03:00 PM"


Bikini wax?

6/17/2009 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Daley for Dog-Catcher

6/17/2009 01:10:00 PM"


What do you have against dogs?

6/17/2009 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My response: Masters.

Yep, just, Masters.

BTW is that two CR #'s or one?

6/17/2009 08:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Squad, may I have an event number for this paper clip sitting on my desk?"

6/17/2009 08:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If u dont want to do anything, fine just STFU about how u used to do all this real police work but without a contract u wont do shit...
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Hey! The real police read this blog! Just keep "running & gunning" and I'll be in line when they start selling tickets to your benefit because you caught an excessive force beef.

It's has been said here before and I'll say it again: We need leadership in this department. Leadership, not political hacks who are afraid to go against the grain for fear they will lose their spot or get busted down to Lt.

Hey, here's an idea. You keep rousting the bangers, impounding their cars and taking all the guns and dope off the streets and maybe you will get others to follow your example. Or maybe you will search one too many cars and end up with a federal lawsuit in which you will lose your job, pension and home and then spend some quality time in jail with the same idiots you locked up in the past.

6/17/2009 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This department aint changing any time soon, so if you are done doing everything, great just stop selling your bullshit...sick of hearing it and reading it.
===================================
Then go away. I'll tell you what I'm sick and tired of......pompous asses like yourself putting yourself above everyone else. Waaaaaaaaaa........I'm the real police.

6/17/2009 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE OH-19 RANGER said...
Give aggressive Officers RANGER tabs
to be worn over their CPD shirt patches, that'll separate the workers
from the "malingerers"....

6/17/2009 08:03:00 AM

It took the 62 most miserable days of my life to get a Ranger Tab. Why don't you go fuck yourself. As a matter of fact anyone that calls them self a ranger can go fuck themselves. And for a certain group of "rangers" that runs around wearing crossed sabres with a number over them, that's the 7th Cavalry Regiment. Once again...not rangers. Just because you got shipped someplace out of the academy doesn't make you a bad motherfucker. There's plenty of dogs in the ghetto too.

6/17/2009 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i work in one of those "pet" units and would gladly go back to patrol if it would help.
-----------------------------------

Oh but it would. If you really wanted to, you'd be back by now. So don't give me your bullshit of what can one person do.

Either come back to patrol or by new knee pads because the summer will be long and hot. You might as well by some vasiline while your at it too.

6/17/2009 09:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets start a DOC report Card and see how many times they are wrong, Has Caluris ever worked the street

6/17/2009 09:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make Leo Shmits Superintendant, and give him an office with solid mirrors for all 4 walls.

6/17/2009 01:06:00 PM

lol.. WOOO!

6/17/2009 09:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Now that someone mentined it, the department began to fall after Danny Lukensmeyer retired. The last of the real cops. Greatest partner you could ever work with. Bring him back as Superintendent, head of the academy and every recruits FTO. After working with him you knew how to be the police. Danny maybe you caN BORROW YOUR BALLS TO THE BOSSES.

6/17/2009 05:13:00 PM

Danny is a legend, the alst of the "real police" he put the asshole bosses in their place! If was here today the idiots in charge would have a run for their big salaries!

6/17/2009 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Make Leo Shmits Superintendant, and give him an office with solid mirrors for all 4 walls.

6/17/2009 01:06:00 PM

Make that carnival mirrors so he would look buffed!

6/17/2009 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You go out, do your job, and "fuck everyone else". And then, maybe, your fellow officers will have a nice "benefit" for you as a going away present.

Consider yourself corrected.

Sounds like the majority of you agree that I am wrong. I can understand the anger, frustration, and bewilderment. But don't forget (and I know this sounds corny as hell) but don't forget the oath we all took. Why hold back, when u can be proactive. I'm not saying we can solve every problem we face but why hold back? Find another job if u think our oath to uphold the law to the BEST OF OUR ABILITY is wrong. As long as u don't beat up stupid bartenders, don't drink and drive, don't steal, don't do illegal or really stupid shit then you'll be fine. "fuck everyone else" refers to the bosses, da mayor, masters, J-fed, politicians, ASA's, reverends, etc. U can't be scared to do ur job. If u are scared, retire! (FYI I'm a registered republican, PO, 8 years on da job mostly worked northside districts; and I'm tired of all the bithching and whining that goes on around here- grow a pair and do ur job!)

6/17/2009 10:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's an idea that might work. A Surge. Just like in Iraq. It worked over there. Oh, wait. You would have to hire some people.

You dipshits are a fucking joke.

6/17/2009 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crime is down! We've done our jobs with less P.O.'s, right Tom Skilling?

F$%k J-Pud and his B*tches.

I do my job and lock up the J.O.'s and the felons, thats it, don't ask anymore. I'm not going to stop 20 M.F.'s on the street corner because these streets are f&#ked up, I really don't feel safe in this shitty anymore. MSF? You need roaming squadrons. What was that order? Chronic crime and disorder, caravaning? When was the last time you heard that? What about these street parties? Maybe I need some oak leaves, no clout.

Besides there's way too much brass and not enough of us cheap star carrying P.O.'s. Down 500 P.O.'s, we could at least cut 50-100 supervisors. That should be a no brainer.

The academy, what a waste of manpower. Shut it down June-August. Oh what brilliant ideas.

Just a lowly P.O.

6/17/2009 10:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deputy Chief Nicholas Roti
For Superintendent!!

6/17/2009 08:07:00 PM

Hey, watch it! Civilians read this blog. If you are going to make a joke, please label it as such.

6/17/2009 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK: this is what has to be done if you would like J-fed to understand what is going on in the streets and what the patrol officers have to do on a daily basic...have each watch not tact, not detectives,just the men and women who have to work the radio and answer calls every day.Have each watch vote for someone who they think is a working police officer on a daily basis and who whould be willing to meet with J-fed and the rest of the Brass and tell them what it is like to come to work each and every day not knowing if you will have a working car,computer or will have to do seat belt, outdoor roll call, all the while the zone is in a back log.Then while you are at lunch the dispatcher calls you and tells you she is putting 3-jobs in your stack when your done with your lunch you can handle. Whey should the citizens of chicago have to wait for your lunch and then 2-4 jobs in front of them before they get any police service. Because she wants to clear her board and you will look like the dog to the citizens not the dispatcher. Im one that is willing to go in front of the Brass along with all the others that are voted for. all together at the same time in a place where we can speak our minds and not worry about being fucked with by the bosses when you return to your district. Lets set this up for 1 July 09 1100am at head quarters where we will have free parking and the 1st and 3rd watch officers could put in a slip for o/t....I/F

6/18/2009 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"(FYI I'm a registered republican, PO, 8 years on da job mostly worked northside districts; and I'm tired of all the bithching and whining that goes on around here- grow a pair and do ur job!)

6/17/2009 10:17:00 PM"


How far north, Winnetka?

6/18/2009 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too young (39 yoa) to be an Old Timer, too much time on (18 years) to be young; confused??

No confusion; no worries- you're 39 - you're OLD

6/18/2009 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Please answer up, Golden-Boy President Donohue....

6/17/2009 07:44:00 PM"


Do you really think that was an FOP organized event?

6/18/2009 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This department aint changing any time soon, so if you are done doing everything, great just stop selling your bullshit...sick of hearing it and reading it.

6/17/2009 12:23:00 PM

Well than get off the blog and go watch the Rachel Maddow show!

6/18/2009 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Just watched Ozzie Guillen on the news talking about what a SHIT HOLE Wrigley Field is.He then tells the media interviewing him "funy thing is,you guys feel the same way and you never say anthing.WHY?" No response.TYPICAL.
Pretty funny how Ozzie proves how balless the woosies are,something thats been proven here time and time again.
THANKS OZ.

6/17/2009 07:32:00 AM

actually, bors and burnstein were talking the other day how horrible Wrigley is.

6/18/2009 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One big joke squad. another meeting and nothing comes about. Oh help is on the way, Ya right BOSS MAN.

6/18/2009 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cars on a mission tonight in 003

zone7: 3X0 can you ride with 3XX he is 99
3X0: are those cars still on the mission? pull them off and start giving them jobs.


classic

6/18/2009 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The type of ridicoulous ideas I would expect from our esteemed leaders would be as follows:

1. Have a press conference with the Sheriff and the States Attorney where the new initiatives will be announced and pretend like we are all friends.

2. Detail a car or two from quiet districts to busy districts.

3. Get more event numbers for missions that are not really being done in the first place.

4. Take the normal arrests and put them on some new form so that it will appear to be part of "Operation Useless" and get another event number.

5. Send out a fax decalring "zero tolerance day" and get another event number for that with the normal arrests for that day included on some new form, so it looks like there were "special zero tolerance" arrests made.

6. Make sure the helicopter gets event numbers of their own for all of the above missions so that it looks like they were involved in some way.

7. Put Leo in for another medal and declare the mission a success.

8. Make the MSF and TRU guys wear black BDU's

9. Ask Tom Skilling and Jerry Taft to give us more bad weather.

10. Appoint more meritoriously promoted supervisors who were never detectives to the detective division where they can "earn" their next merit promotion without ever being trained as a detective or ever solving a crime or working a case.

11. Under no circumstances are people who are experienced or qualified to do a particular job to be sent to actually do that job or teach ohters to do that job.

12. Hire more non-police to tell the police what to do. Pay them more and more money while refusing to give the police a raise or a contract for another few years.

13. Contact Interpol and ask them to file charges against Cozzi.

14. Contact the United Nations and ask them to file human rights charges against Cozzi.

15. Order new Tahoes for Ed Burkes detail.

6/17/2009 06:43:00 AM


Right on, but you left out Sgt's as Deputy Chiefs who make traffic stops and drives off after telling you to write a guy for something you never seen, and he won't sign as a witness. I guss he doesn't know where traffic court is.

SPECIAL K (Car 47) hide in your office and stay away from the Taste of Shitchicago before you screw that up again.

6/18/2009 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
They want ideas? Invite some real street supervisors and P.O.'s to the meeting and not the merit hacks or inside H.Q. people for ideas.

6/17/2009 08:46:00 AM


They might learn something if they do that, and its how to be the Police. They are all a bunch of Police want a Be's.

6/18/2009 02:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WARRIOR, this group whoudn't know a warrior from a kiss ass.

6/18/2009 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
All I want to know if I follow the law as I know it will I be a proublem.

6/17/2009 03:09:00 PM

No Sir, you will be a smart man, who knows his job and the law. Now get an Event Number!

6/18/2009 02:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Will the bosses whimper? Will he put the fear of doogie hauser into them? Will some bosses stand up for themselves? Will moves be made? Who gives a shit! See you later same bat time, same bat channel! Will commissioner Gordon be involved? Quick j-fed the bat phone! This job is nothing but a comic sketch, shadow of the former strong leadership who got respect! These guys are like the stooges!

6/17/2009 05:44:00 PM



Can we give them up to the other side and start this game over. I call this game to be "forfeited" due to lop-sided teams.

6/18/2009 02:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MSF, TRU, WOLF PACKS, TAC, SWAT, BAIT CARS, AREA GUN TEAMS, AREA GANG TEAMS, AREA MISSION TEAMS, AIR SUPPORT and GUYS AT THE GYM can you please help the Jag-offs in charge, because they are fucking with out a clue, and please come back to the WATCH.

How many support people does it take for all these Units at Desks ect. BRING THE DESK BITCHES BACK TOO.

I feel like I'm watching a bad move with "X" rated actors, who can't perform and are sizing one another UP?????

6/18/2009 02:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am reporting that all we were doing was telling war stories on how to get a GUN on New Years Eve. Thats the way Cline did it, and he knows a lot about being in charge, because he controled the bathroom and the lunch room at 35th when he was in charge.

Great work, see you all at the next meeting.

I ask all my District Commanders and Area Deputy Chiefs to show up at the next meeting with pictures of a gun they would like to get off the streets. No photos of water guns at next meeting or time due slips, we must show a example by all showing up, don't worry we are starting to get a handle on crime.

Stay safe and put something over your uniform while getting into your nice unmarked gold star police crusier, remember put your heads up high so the workers can look up to you.

6/18/2009 03:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Looks like the FOP is trying to protect on eof thier own.Whats up in 24th dist with FOP REP SD and A baby mama kid,for agg batty to police.

6/17/2009 03:36:00 PM

who keeps posting this there are no fop reps in 024 with sd as there initials

6/18/2009 03:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just go out and do your job the right way- thats all he's asking...Instead there are a million excuses, and its not because of Cozzi...Just dog ass lazy cops who use Cozzi as an excuse because they are too scared to deal with the shitheads...If u dont want to do anything, fine just STFU about how u used to do all this real police work but without a contract u wont do shit...We just had a copper killed by these animals and still excuses...yeah things have changed a lot in even ten years but dont lay down for these animals on the street...We have to live here and we have to work out there...This department aint changing any time soon, so if you are done doing everything, great just stop selling your bullshit...sick of hearing it and reading it.

Bravo, truer words never spoken...

6/18/2009 03:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SO,WILL SOMEONE TELL US WHAT HAPPENED at the meeting instead of just bitching here?

6/18/2009 03:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
solution= bring in retired copper Danny Lukensmeyer (south siders with some time on job know him) and have him relieve J-fed. End of story, problem solved. Besides, there's a bunch of retired exempts double dipping as we speak. Stay safe, and always remember that you are on your own.

Seriously, what a great idea. Danny is Seiser

6/17/2009 10:39:00 AM

###############################

Yeah but the ethics will really tank.
He of stolen squad car in his garage!

6/18/2009 03:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6/17/2009 07:04:00 AM

?? And were you at any of those meetings?? I'm taking an educated guess and saying no.

Posting everything on the website is not all a good idea since everyone including the media gets to know what we are negotiating.

Go to the meetings or inquire with your unit rep. Doofy.

6/17/2009 06:15:00 PM

Hey go Doofy yourself (I'm sure do on a regular basis.)
1. We arent allowed at the negotiation meetings with the city.
2. The city already lets the media know whats being negotiated.
3. Go Doofy yourself again

6/18/2009 04:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a laugh..... the FOP just updated the website. They changed the date on the top post concerning Cozzi from the 11th to the 17th. Way to go guys I'm sure that will earn your salaries. I guess calling them out on SCC makes them move. Get ready for jail for giving away my pension. After the recent lets destroy the tapes fiasco, I bet there is gonna be a mysterious fire at the hall.

6/18/2009 04:55:00 AM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg:

Actually, I thought your "Operation Valkyrie" quip was pretty funny. My only apprehension was that some overzealous paranoid government "outsiders" do not share the gallows sense of humor of a homicide detective. I think we know the kind.

LOL!

6/18/2009 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Here's an idea that might work. A Surge. Just like in Iraq. It worked over there."

REALLY?DON'T KID YOURSELF. THEY DUMPED BAGS OF MONEY@ THE DOORSTEPS OF THE LOCAL WARLORDS. THAT'S WHAT STOPPED TO THE NONSENSE. YOU WANT TO BUY OFF THE GD'S & VICELORDS? THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL HAVE TO BECUASE THAT'S WHAT WORKED IN IRAQ.

6/18/2009 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

N. Roti for super. How the ---- can you be serious. Next will be e. Brown and Lt E. Gushes. Hoe the ---- could you possible be? Wipe your ass before you leave the house in the morning you will think better!

6/18/2009 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10. Appoint more meritoriously promoted supervisors who were never detectives to the detective division where they can "earn" their next merit promotion without ever being trained as a detective or ever solving a crime or working a case.

The above comment is the true story of the modern day detective division under the direction of exempts who were never detectives.

Why are Dennis Keane and Tony Riccio in the Patrol Division? Are they just too qualified for the 21st Century Detective Division?

Oh, that's right, we need more waiters like Andrews. A refill on my Roditys, Dean.

6/18/2009 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It took the 62 most miserable days of my life to get a Ranger Tab. Why don't you go fuck yourself. As a matter of fact anyone that calls them self a ranger can go fuck themselves. And for a certain group of "rangers" that runs around wearing crossed sabres with a number over them, that's the 7th Cavalry Regiment. Once again...not rangers. Just because you got shipped someplace out of the academy doesn't make you a bad motherfucker. There's plenty of dogs in the ghetto too.

Ok Rambo lighten up or should I say Frances.

6/18/2009 02:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like the FOP is trying to protect on eof thier own.Whats up in 24th dist with FOP REP SD and A baby mama kid,for agg batty to police.
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You are on crack. You can go to the FOP Website and see who the 024 rep is. Never was SD

6/18/2009 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deputy Chief Nicholas Roti
For Superintendent!!

Bring extra hair gel!

6/18/2009 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

at least Danny Lukensmeyer stole the car from the city and not a citizen. the city steals from us on a Daley basis. Danny lives!

6/18/2009 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you ever really take a look at the list of exempts he sent that email to? I counted 4 who have a working police career and half a brain. The rest should be in jail. What kind of genius strategies could these dumb fucks come up with? I say just call in the national guard for the summer.

6/17/2009 06:47:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP had 2 meetings over contract so far this month yet no update on website. Why is there always a huge lag between the meeting and an update on the FOP website. I always find information posted here before there.
I'm sure that it is because they are all to busy covering up their asses with the feds looking into pension fund mismanagement to avoid future jail terms.
Hey FOP this is why most of us believe you are all in bed with the city. Tell us what happened (they said, you said) and when the next meeting is going to take place.

6/17/2009 07:04:00 AM

Good god people, you must know the priorities.

Because those ass wipes won't let the lack of a contract, get in the way of some serious, picnic, golf outing, and breakfast with Santa planning.

6/18/2009 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the line we use in the 7th district. "Maam/Sir we are doing the best we can with the resources we have." Works every time.

6/18/2009 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Idiot Lenti was a Sgt AND a Lt. in the Det division. It should be a requirement that you be a detective before you are a Sgt. in the det unit. Stupid sgt's are no help to PO's and there are enough of those in the patrol division. You'd think a superintendant would want a smarter, better department.

6/19/2009 01:23:00 AM  

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