Long Week Ahead
Baring some unforeseen circumstances, the Abbate trial starts Monday. That means the media will be running the infamous footage of him throwing haymaker after haymaker and missing just about every single one.
And again, while we and 99% of our readers condemned the actions of this asshat, we roundly objected to the felony charges that were based on nothing but political considerations. Look at what this person who never should have been hired in the first place has wrought on the Department as a whole.
In any case, if you have blood pressure concerns, avoid the news for a bit.
And again, while we and 99% of our readers condemned the actions of this asshat, we roundly objected to the felony charges that were based on nothing but political considerations. Look at what this person who never should have been hired in the first place has wrought on the Department as a whole.
In any case, if you have blood pressure concerns, avoid the news for a bit.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
46 Comments:
Too bored to care.
Dear SCC,
While I am usually your biggest fan and I am very proud of your 4 year milestone accomplishment, it is here where I reach the end of my road as a loyal reader. How you can disagree with the felony charges is utterly beyond my comprehension.
I've watched that video a hundred times she approaches Fabbatte when he enters behind the bar and intentionally makes first contact.His only defense would be that he being in a drunken state, seeing double, thought that there were actually more than one aggressor and fought for his life or the next round of drinks which ever came first.
At what point will they reveal that the illegal was stealing his money?And that she Knew him?
True scc the abbate video will be shown again and again! that clout kid should be selling streetwise what a punk1
did the ASA offer a pre-trial plea? nobody condones this actions but....agg. battery? where is the great bodily harm? how many times have we been denied getting these charges unless the victim is almost dead? how many times did i hear '' make it a misdemeaner battery kid'' when a guys head was busted open? this is a case of drunkin stupidity not agg. battery.
In the spirit of Judical Fairness& Impartiality, Abbate should be aquitted of all charges just like The Jefferson Tap Crew was.
Abbatte is a goof but this does NOT warrant felony charges. This is all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
How you can disagree with the felony charges is utterly beyond my comprehension..
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Political considerations. The only, and we mean the ONLY, reason the ASA charged the felonies was because the asshat was a Chicago Cop. No other reason. In 100 out of 100 other cases, this is misdemeanor battery.
Should he be fired for conduct unbecoming? Yup. He never should have been hired due to his background, but this Department isn't willing to expose the clout that got him a badge.
Should he be fired for any other a a half-dozen violations of the law and rules? Yup. You aren't going to find one iota of support here.
Should he get jail time, community service, maybe a fine? Sure. All appropriate punishments.
But years in prison? Sorry, we wouldn't advocate that for a regular drunk jackass in a bar.
Sorry your world view is so narrow that you don't see the big picture, but political prosecutions like this make a mockery of the law in general and diminish the chances of real victims getting a fair shake in the system.
I don't give a crap if he's a copper or not. Do that to my daughter, wife, sister and you're fixin' for a 'Texas lead ennema'!
Ignore Abbate's attempts to use his position as an LEO to intimidate the victim and others. It's about all you've got.
I can't believe the American Knights MC is still letting this asshat be a member and ride with him! I know these police clubs let civilians in but this guy is a dirt ball!
He's charged with aggravated battery, and yet the shithead who moved D.C. around after his accident doesn't........this is beyond a double standard, it's a load of Amoeba Shit!
GCG
Dear SCC,
While I am usually your biggest fan and I am very proud of your 4 year milestone accomplishment, it is here where I reach the end of my road as a loyal reader. How you can disagree with the felony charges is utterly beyond my comprehension.
6/01/2009 12:41:00 AM
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You know why he disagrees with the felony charges is because everytime some shithead on the street uses one of us for a punching bag, we have to beg for felony charges and if they are approved by the ASA's, when it comes time to court, the charges get busted down to a misdemeanor or get a plea deal.
I was seriously injured on a call and the ASA had the balls to flippantly ask me if how far do you want this case to go. She really didn't seem to give two shits that I would be in pain for the rest of my life and this bartender really didn't get injuried at all.
In no way am I defending abbatte because I've always thought he was a stroke, even before this happened.
That's why.
J-Fed is waiting for his cue, if he beats the charge.
This case is 2+years old. They draw it out so we look like whiny babies lookin for a contract after 2 yrs without one. Everyone will be saying, look at this guy, they don't deserve anything.
You are probably right that very few bar fights would result in felony UUW charges, but the agg battery statute would appear to allow for it.
(720 ILCS 5/12‑4) (from Ch. 38, par. 12‑4)
Sec. 12‑4. Aggravated Battery.
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(b) In committing a battery, a person commits aggravated battery if he or she:
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(8) Is, or the person battered is, on or about a public way, public property or public place of accommodation or amusement;
A bar would appear to be a place of public accomodation.
That animal deserves anything they throw at him. To me he is not much different then the savages who took the gun off my 022 brother. Anyone who can commit an act like that is not my brother...period. He is not someone I want watching my back, someone I want watching my brothers back or someone I would spend one second of my personal time with. I can't even imagine how I would have felt if that was my daughter, relative or friend (and it could have been one of our daughters, he would not have given a shit) He was nothing but a drunken animal who wanted a drink at that point and would have beaten up a one armed grandmother. And any excuses his Northside friends make for him on this blog does nothing but makes themselves look like assholes.
(his punches missed, she was takinf his money....jeez)
Just think about how many people including coppers in this county that fall victim to violent criminals that shouldn't be on the street due to our shitty judges and incompetent prosecutors. Where would the homicide rate be if half these offenders were incarcerated.
SCC:"Look at what this person who never should have been hired in the first place has wrought on the Department as a whole."
Amen SCC,not just a problem with CPD but ALL departments.These political hacks get taken care of so much its sickening.
Is Tony in some kind of trouble? When did this happen?
Its amazing that the media talks more about Abbate today than the p.o that was shot last night. They can never portray us as the victim.
this guys a piece of shit,should have never been a copper.he gone!
Question...in the event if you as a police officer, in the bar at the same time this all was going down....would you have stopped this from happening? There were several guys there just looking on.
No this man, although a city finest, should not given a prison sentence. What is fair is fair and it should be carried out the same as a civilian.
I think the whole disgust with the public is that a Chicago police officer was beating up a girl. A girl. Much smaller in size then he. I think the public sees the big guy beating up the little guy. You know, I know, the public knows too that a police officer is to protect, not cause the problem. Yes, I too understand that this one was not be on the force. I understand that there are far fewer of these types. I am glad of that too. With this happening, it only makes your job that much tougher. More difficult. But as a citizen of Chicago, I am really glad that we have some very professional officers out there doing what they love to do. Help.
keep up the great work!! I only wish that Daley sees that this happens every day!
a citizen.
It wouldn't be so bad if every time they show the video of fatf*ck hitting that girl, they followed by showing video of the scumbag stealing Densey Cole's gun off his incapacitated body!
To everyone's suprise Abatte will have a suprise character witness in his defense. We all know that he talked about her all the time and was in love with her. Who is the suprise witness? OPRAH! lol
You would not understand it unless you truly knew that fatass drunk because it is an inside joke.
No matter what happens at the trial none of us want you back in the uniform tony.
At least we have toilet paper in the station since you are no longer able to steal 4 rolls a day to wipe the shit off your mouth.
SCC, I enjoy your site even though I only agree with it about 50% of the time, but I felt compelled to comment on this post.
Either Abbate is an "asshat" "who never should have been hired in the first place" and is unworthy of any support from you & the rest of your fine brethren (and sisteren, if that's a word) in blue... or you're on his side because his "haymakers" missed and you don't think it's fair he should be facing felony charges for his actions because it's "political."
You can't have it both ways! This guy is scum, he's one of the reasons why people fear & loathe the police, he's not what good cops are about & stand for, and he should go to jail for years... that's the point you could have and should have made.
I'm for cops, the good ones, and you missed an opportunity to show that you are too.
I'm for cops, the good ones, and you missed an opportunity to show that you are too..
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We are for equal treatment under the law. Cops are not above the law, but they aren't below it either.
Lord forbid one day we have to appear before a judge or jury and this incident colors the entire experience of those sitting in judgment.
You can't have two standards. He was off duty, not in uniform, and not representing the City or the Department. The laws have no provisions for increased penalties for what your job happens to be.
There is no "separate but equal." Are you seriously advocating a return to those days?
"You can't have two standards. He was off duty, not in uniform, and not representing the City or the Department. The laws have no provisions for increased penalties for what your job happens to be."
Was he on duty when he used his position as a police officer to intimidate the victim and witnesses?
He didn't just attack a woman half his size, he attacked the entire basis for the criminal justice system.
If a gang member who tried to intimidate a victim and witnesses would be charged with a felony, why shouldn't he?
Now he's claiming that it was "self-defense" and that she "threw him around like a rag doll."
You have every right to defend this cur. You have NO right to be respected for it.
You can't have two standards. He was off duty, not in uniform, and not representing the City or the Department. The laws have no provisions for increased penalties for what your job happens to be.
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You can't claim off duty out one side of your mouth and then claim on duty 24/7 when it is convenient out the other side of your mouth.
To me the most troubling part of this whole thing is not that an idiot beat up a defenseless woman, but that a bunch of cops appear to have made serious efforts to help him avoid his just reward for his behavior.
Police did a line up next on yesterday for two witnesses. One witness picks out the driver, the second witness picks out the wrong person. States attorneys want police to substitute another person and give the witness a second chance to pick out the offender. Police refuse to go along. S/A's get mad and start to yell at police. Police continue to refuse to go along with the state. States attorneys are huddled in corner and overheard stating that they are not to trust the police and not to interview witnesses unless states attorney is with the police, because police notes are inaccurate and not to be trusted and say what the police want them to say. Great job Anita Alvarez
So, using the logic of SCC, if a there's a future videotape showing a CPD officer being pummled by a street punk, then I guess you'd also agree that no felony charges be brought.
C'mon...let's use a litle common sense here. This ex-officer is an asshat and deserves time in the slammer like any other gangbanger running around.
Throw the book at him! He's a disgrace.
In the spirit of Judical Fairness& Impartiality, Abbate should be aquitted of all charges just like The Jefferson Tap Crew was.
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jefferson Park Tap=two groups of drunken goofs fighting each other. Mutual combat. The yuppies should be embarrassed for signing complaints. They are looking for a payday.
Abbate= 260 pound drunken jagoff takes swings at a 100 pound woman. Goes behind the bar to get her because she wouldn't give him a drink. Agg Batt? Maybe maybe not.
But the two incidents are absolutely not the same. The Jeff Park guys get a deserved not guilty. Abbate? He's fucked. Deservedly so.
Message to FatAss Abbate: You never could even make a pimple on a real Policeman's body. You fat, cowardly, out of shape, disgrace to the badge. How can you live with yourself? You drunken slob. If I had my chance, I would punch you so hard, your whole family would bleed. You have no heart. Your lucky that bartender had no ground fighting techniques. I assure you, dick brain, my ground fighting is second to none. Against you I would never need it. You looked real tough in the footage going to court and also pounding on that 100 pound Polish immigrant. I hate your guts you pig. You should leave this town and change your name. You are an abomination!
"There is no 'separate but equal.' Are you seriously advocating a return to those days?"
As if those days ever left.
Fired maybe.
Agg Batt? Never!
Too many dogs have been RWOC in front of me for murder and agg batt with "real victims" in my last several years at an area.
The asa's office needs to follow the law and stop making up political correctness charges.
I agree with the poster who said texas lead enema...asshat tony would have gotten a couple of small caliber rounds in his back-side for this crap in many southern areas. SCC is right, he never should have been the police.
IAD strong armed the barmaid to come forward and press charges. At first, she did not want to prosecute or pursue the case. IAD forced her hand to the Dept's detriment and now the taxpayers will have to pay a fortune.
Abbate got caught thieving when he was still a ppo in 019. Should've been fired then and there.
Ray Bam Bam Wilke said...
Message to FatAss Abbate: You never could even make a pimple on a real Policeman's body. You fat, cowardly, out of shape, disgrace to the badge. How can you live with yourself? You drunken slob. If I had my chance, I would punch you so hard, your whole family would bleed. You have no heart. Your lucky that bartender had no ground fighting techniques. I assure you, dick brain, my ground fighting is second to none. Against you I would never need it. You looked real tough in the footage going to court and also pounding on that 100 pound Polish immigrant. I hate your guts you pig. You should leave this town and change your name. You are an abomination!
6/01/2009 08:12:00 PM
And the pimps attorney states "the bartender threw the fatass around like a rag doll"! Just stop the trial throw fatass in prison he should of never been the police what a pos!
Anonymous said...
IAD strong armed the barmaid to come forward and press charges. At first, she did not want to prosecute or pursue the case. IAD forced her hand to the Dept's detriment and now the taxpayers will have to pay a fortune.
6/02/2009 12:11:00 AM
Why do the taxpayers have to pay? He was not on duty just a drunken goof!
IAD strong armed the barmaid to come forward and press charges. At first, she did not want to prosecute or pursue the case. IAD forced her hand to the Dept's detriment and now the taxpayers will have to pay a fortune.
6/02/2009 12:11:00 AM
Really? It's not an IAD case, IIPRA handles this shit, genius.
There's more video showing the barmaid coming to the other side of the bar and pushing Abbate off of his stool before the famous video happens.Not condoning what he did but the state is going to cave in.
2 incidents are as different as day and night. One is an out of control alcoholic on a rampage. I don't care if she is allegedly stealing his money. However the letter of the law wasn't followed in sentencing therefore this will be appealed so plan on seeing that awful video for many years to come. Second incident was a typical Chicago bar fight between consenting adults. The losers were just babies w/law degrees. And I'm proud to say, not related to me.
If she had done things the Chicago Way, she would have called the biggest, meanest dudes she knows and had his ass beat the second he hit the door. And stole all his money.
Not only were some coppers sitting there watching, at least one ducked and ran. signed a thoroughly embarrased retired copper. You're lucky that wasn't my relative Abbate. Just damn lucky.
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