Quote of the Year
- A troubled Garfield Park teenager killed when the stolen Jeep he was riding in crashed and caught fire just yards from his home was a good kid who made a bad choice, family friends said Sunday.
- "People will think, here's a kid who rode in a stolen car and got what he deserved. But if he'd grown up in different circumstances, he could have helped change the world."
And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass when he hops.
Here's a clue people (and folks) - life is choices. We are what we make of them. And a parent is supposed to guide those choices, either by example or by taking the child by the hand and directing them to the correct choice. A 13-year-old doesn't just wake up and start taking other peoples automobiles with 4 friends one morning - it just doesn't happen. He sees people stealing, he sees a general disrespect for ownership of assets, he has no boundaries or enforceable limits or self discipline.
That's a failure of parenting. That's a failure of the community.
Here's a clue people (and folks) - life is choices. We are what we make of them. And a parent is supposed to guide those choices, either by example or by taking the child by the hand and directing them to the correct choice. A 13-year-old doesn't just wake up and start taking other peoples automobiles with 4 friends one morning - it just doesn't happen. He sees people stealing, he sees a general disrespect for ownership of assets, he has no boundaries or enforceable limits or self discipline.
That's a failure of parenting. That's a failure of the community.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
74 Comments:
Actually you're mistaken SCC. An automobile is a liability, not an asset.
It being 2009 and all, I think we gotta put a new ring on this story.
How about a trouble teenage from the GOLDEN DOME area was killed blah blah blah...
Yes, Golden Dome. It's like "The Hills" or the "O.C." of the West Side.
Damn, kinda sounds like a good idea for a show. Just imagine those "hoppers" from The Wire meets Laguna Beach but set on the rustic, urban West Side.
I gotta pitch it to Rahm Emmanuel's brother!
Four rustic urbanites.
One stolen car.
Find out what happens next week on....GODLEN DOME.
PS - I was also thinking about calling my West Side reality show "As The Golden Dome Turns" but I dunno, it's kinda long in the tooth.
Oh boy "different circumstances" plenty of people don't have different circumstances, I have a cousin that has been on drugs since before her son was born. He is currently in his 3rd year of medical school!!!! Life is truly about choices and he chose not to follow his mothers footsteps or the footsteps or the other negative influences that surrounded him as a child.
If it hadn't been for all of the criminal acts the kid had done, he would have been a good kid.
If it wasn't for all of those rapes and killings that Gacy did, he would have been a pretty good guy.
If it wasn't for all of those Jews Hitler killed, he would have been a pretty good leader.
If it wasn't for all of the money that Shortshanks steals, he would be a good mayor.
OK. I think I see how this works. I'll take it from here.
Democrats are so funny.
HOW DARE YOU! How dare you blame parents for not raising their children properly! Don't you understand the hardships these people must endure? This country is run by the white man. A black kid doesn't have a chance. It's not like he can dream of becoming president one day if he makes the right choices and works hard.
Oh, yeah. I forgot. Uh. Give me a minute.
At least they admitted he made bad choices. I'll take it. It's better than "I don't know how he got in that car cuz he never did nothin' wrong before." That's miles better than the usual family statement.
"if he'd grown up in different circumstances, he could have helped change the world"
is consistent with
"That's a failure of the community."
And lets not forget that this accident occurred at 3:30 AM ! ! !
how is that the fault of the community??
hey scc how bout this one, if a bull frog had a hammer on its ass it would make one hell of a blacksmith. You can use that one anytime you like!!
when will one of these media outlets get some fucking balls and put together a montage of all these "GOOD KEEDZ" and the quotes of the many "COUSINS" claiming they were/are/or whatever "GOOD KEEDZ" and have the back drop of them throwing up gang signs??? I GUARANTEE if a PO was able to be contradicted on these rags, they... WE would be in a fucking heartbeat... why the double standard??? Why not call the scourge of society to task??? I thought Fox news Chicago "asks the tough questions"??? Hell, they run ads claiming they ask the "tough questions"... why is the media so afraid of the black community??? ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS YOU FUCKING PUSSIES!!! ASK WHY THEY CANNOT STOP COMMITTING CRIMES!!! ASK WHY ALL THESE FAMILY MEMBERS CLAIM THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE YET HAVE BEEN SENTENCED TO MORE TIME THAN THEY HAVE BEEN ON THIS EARTH!!! ASK WHY EVERY TIME THEY ARE SHOT BY THE POLICE THE POLICE HAPPEN TO HAVE PLANTED THE GUN FOUND ON SCENE!!! ASK WHY SO MANY BULLSHIT COMPLAINTS AGAINST OFFICERS!!!!!! ASK WHY ONLY CERTAIN SOCIETIES CRY WOLF AND IF THEY KNOW THE LESSONS OF CRYING WOLF!!!! You claim to ask the tough questions... THEN ASK THEM!!! This shit is out of fucking control and even the media is scared of them... Ask the questions you claim you ask, and maybe we will respect you... maybe mainstream society will respect you... until then, enjoy being the punch line of every joke...
Someone please refresh my memory, what time did this crash happen?
That's right, middle of the night. So let me see, junior is out in the middle of the night with four friends who I'm sure were also "good kids" riding around in a stolen car. I think the "family friends" need to face reality.
This was the result of a lack of parenting and discipline.
It's da poleeces fault.
But if he'd grown up in different circumstances, he could have helped change the world.
What, you mean like with parents who gave a flying f*** about him enough to discipline him & make sure he knows not to take what isn't his?
Nah, must be a failure of the system.
the frog anology is dated it should be "If my aunt(ie) had balls, she would be my uncle"
Where's Jesse on this one? Or the rest of the play reverends? How come the media seems to be downplaying this aspect of the story? I can't wait for retirement so I can get far,far away from here.
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Very well said!!
And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass when he hops.
Listen, you should warn us when you are going to write very funny stuff like that. I nearly choked.
SCC, very well said !
WoW HOW INSENSATIVE CAN YOU BE! JUST THINK DO YOUR KIDS DO THIS SHIT? WELL WE HAVE NOTHING SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT! YOUD GET HIGH TOO IF YOU LIVED IN THE SHIT OF OUR NIEGHBORHOODS
"People will think, here's a kid who rode in a stolen car and got what he deserved. But if he'd grown up in different circumstances, he could have helped change the world."
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That's right. And if Richard J. Daley was my grandfather ad my last name was Vanecko I would have $68 million at my disposal to get my fledgling real estate venture off the ground. With a guaranteed profit.
As it is, I just drive a beat car. I could have changed the world. If only...
Under the right circumstances I'd be a Mega Millions winner.
IT STARTS AT HOME.
the frog anology is dated it should be "If my aunt(ie) had balls, she would be my uncle"
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If buzzards had pianos up their asses, there'd be music in the air.
Actually you're mistaken SCC. An automobile is a liability, not an asset.
6/29/2009 12:17:00 AM
No SCC is correct, an automobile is a depreciable asset. The note (loan) that is taken out to purchase the automobile is a liabilty.
Where's Jesse on this one? Or the rest of the play reverends? How come the media seems to be downplaying this aspect of the story? I can't wait for retirement so I can get far,far away from here.
6/29/2009 03:26:00 AM
They're too busy fighting for camera time with this Michael Jackson death.
That's a failure of parenting. That's a failure of the community.
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No, no, no. It's OUR fault. WE failed him. We need to make more stops and impounds.
"If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle"
... he could have been an astonaut ... or president by golly
A big number of these 'parents" can't direct their children to follow the correct path in life. They are lost and don't have a clue, generation after generation, after generation................
They live in "The Land of the Lost" & don't have a fuckin' clue !!!
Anonymous said...
WoW HOW INSENSATIVE CAN YOU BE! JUST THINK DO YOUR KIDS DO THIS SHIT? WELL WE HAVE NOTHING SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT! YOUD GET HIGH TOO IF YOU LIVED IN THE SHIT OF OUR NIEGHBORHOODS
6/29/2009 06:43:00 AM
No. You're wrong. Getting high to escape your circumstances is just that, an escape and a temporary one at that. I grew up poor in the hood with violence surrounding me, however I was so disgusted by it that I wanted a lasting solution to end circumstances that would pull me under if I let them. I went to school and stayed out of trouble. I know that is classic advice but hey it worked. I've never been arrested and I am doing alright as a blue collar worker. Getting high and being a punk is just a cop-out so I agree with the post on this topic. It is about choices. Your environment doesn't dictate who you will be. Your choices do.
The fault always lies with someone else doesn't it? Become a REAL parent, and make your kids REAL members of society...blah blah blah
I guess Obama isn't changing everything for you.
Your son chose.......poorly..he gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep apologizing for thuggery. Keep letting youth idolize ignorant, uneducated, mysoginistic "gangsta" rappers as heroes, hell, listen to it yourself "Daddy"...(term used very loosely).
Saggy pants, butchery of the language under the guise of ebonics, carrying guns, stealing, slinging dope, dependence upon link cards and society's largesse, blaming everything upon "whitey" ...this is all their "culture", it's "racist" to call it what it is...apologism for laziness and stupidity and a big excuse.
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Anonymous said...
WoW HOW INSENSATIVE CAN YOU BE! JUST THINK DO YOUR KIDS DO THIS SHIT? WELL WE HAVE NOTHING SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT! YOUD GET HIGH TOO IF YOU LIVED IN THE SHIT OF OUR NIEGHBORHOODS
6/29/2009 06:43:00 AM
You ghetto rats have nothing but excuses, don't you. Man the hell up and DO SOMETHING to better yourself and end your parasitic tax dollar sucking lifestyle. If you've got money to buy dope, trying buying yourself some schooling so you can get a freakin job so the rest of us working stiffs don't have to support your lazy ass. Oh, and you claim to not have anything, so how the hell did you post your response here. Let me guess, you're using the computer at the library, right?
HOW DARE YOU! How dare you blame parents for not raising their children properly! Don't you understand the hardships these people must endure? This country is run by the white man. A black kid doesn't have a chance. It's not like he can dream of becoming president one day if he makes the right choices and works hard.
Oh, yeah. I forgot. Uh. Give me a minute.
Correction: "the hardships they bring on themselves"
There are ALWAYS 2 Choices in all things,right and wrong,
a.run across the dan ryan at 5pm
or dont
b, drive that car while high
or dont
c. rape that woman...dont
d. rob that store.....or dont
AND MY FAVCRITE ONE.......
DROP THAT GUN! or dont.
Will there be a clerical protest? A lawsuit against the car manufacturer(because it was too easy to steal)will the world stop its rotation due to this? Nah....
just one less animal we have to deal with and support.
EXACTLY
"People will think, here's a kid who rode in a stolen car and got what he deserved. But if he'd grown up in different circumstances, he could have helped change the world."
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Yeah, WHAT IF ?
WHAT IF Trayvon Roberts was taught not to violate the curfew laws?
He probably would not be "the badly-charred body pulled from the wreckage of a stolen 1996 Jeep Cherokee early Friday morning."
Anonymous said...
Where's Jesse on this one? Or the rest of the play reverends? How come the media seems to be downplaying this aspect of the story? I can't wait for retirement so I can get far,far away from here.
6/29/2009 03:26:00 AM
jesse is over in california with the molestoers family mikey jacksons, another dead pos!
The Bible says, "Train up a child in the way he SHOULD go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it."
I had one of those African American mothers (widowed) who whopped me and my twin brother for breathing wrong. She also taught us right from wrong, sacrifice, hard work, and the value of an education. The result, my brother with a 20 year military career and me with a decent public service job. I have a husband, two kids (oh by the way I got married FIRST), one kid on his way to Whitney Young, currently in an all expense paid academic camp.
It can be done. My husband works two jobs, but it can be done.
WoW HOW INSENSATIVE CAN YOU BE! JUST THINK DO YOUR KIDS DO THIS SHIT? WELL WE HAVE NOTHING SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT! YOUD GET HIGH TOO IF YOU LIVED IN THE SHIT OF OUR NIEGHBORHOODS
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Never my fault, don't blame me, I couldn't possibly trying. What bullshit, my folks both grew up poor, busted their asses, tried to provide for their kids better than they had things. I didn't grow up rich, not rich now, and pushing a beat car isn't gonna make me rich anytime soon.......guess I'll have to keep working, maybe you slugs should try it, you obviously made enough for a computer (had to choke that one back).
Why is it that when the Irish immigrants were living in those neighborhoods they were not the ghetto, kids listened to their parents and if the flatfoot ever told your father you did something wrong he'd kick your a**. Its the people who live like animals, not the neighborhood.
I threw up a little in my mouth during this story.
Are all the dictionaries in all the newsshops missing the word 'journalism', so no one can look it up?
well put scc.
These kids have no respect for people, property, or anything for that matter. mom and dad (mostly single mom) have no idea how to raise,teach, or discipline their kids.
I don't see any of this changing during my lifetime, unless mandatory sterilization occurs for these kids having kids.
Check out this article in the tribune about the high teacher turnover rate in the ghetto. some pretty good thoughts in the comment section too.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-chicago-public-schools-studyjun29,0,1744651.story
Perfect, as I tell my 16 year old why I am so hard on him. (He has to be in by curfew.We need to know where he is going and who he is going to be with.) The job of a parent is to protect your children and teach them to be self-sufficient. He is not going to be one of the entitlement generation.
" Anonymous said...
WoW HOW INSENSATIVE CAN YOU BE! JUST THINK DO YOUR KIDS DO THIS SHIT? WELL WE HAVE NOTHING SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT! YOUD GET HIGH TOO IF YOU LIVED IN THE SHIT OF OUR NIEGHBORHOODS
6/29/2009 06:43:00 AM"
Get a shovel & broom, start cleaning the shit then work your way upwards. It's a start !!!!!
SCC you pointed out the major ghetto philosophical failing.
They believe life is about luck. That those who succeed are lucky and those who don't are not. It's easier for them to believe this because it lets them believe that failure is not their fault.
This philosophy is why their lives are miserable.
Oh balls said the Queen, if I had two, I'd be King!
I moved from St. Louis to Carbondale, Ill. in January. Several years ago, the mothers or other close relatives of St. Louis's thugs arrested for major crimes would tell the media that their son "was a good boy, an honor roll student, a great 'afawete,' who just happened to fall in with the wrong crowd."
As often as that excuse is used, and if all of them "just happen to fall in with the wrong crowd," the who, pray tell, is the wrong crowd? Is there any wrong crowd at all?
Answer: Your boy WAS the wrong crowd.
Please incorporate that quote in your motto SCC cause its a classic.
Sometimes honor roll students get snetenced, ask any of the "been in jail for ten years and another person did the crime former convicts.
What do you expect people to say, he was a devil in jeans? he's dead so no more crime from him.
And sometimes, people get convicted because of other people's criminal acts and then get this disrespect and the usual they had choices - not always
Anonymous said...
Where's Jesse on this one? Or the rest of the play reverends? How come the media seems to be downplaying this aspect of the story? I can't wait for retirement so I can get far,far away from here.
6/29/2009 03:26:00 AM
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Guess you haven't been following the news. Jesse is following the money, baby. He and Sharpton couldn't get airline tickets fast enough when weirdo Michael Jackson fell over from drugs! Check California, I'm sure you'll find Jesse there with other fake "reverends" and other charlatans.
misquoting a comment in the paper:
the kid is a product of his environment; and the environment is a product of its populations
how is that the fault of the community??
6/29/2009 01:20:00 AM
because it takes a village to raise a child!
Oh come on now. Which of those amongst us haven't stolen a car in the early morning hours and crashed it for a few laughs? When did we become so judgemental?
To 2:12 PM,
God Bless you and your family, it is refreshing to hear someone tell it like it should be, that discipline, hard work and education pay off. Your children are truly blessed to have such strong role models in their life just as you were blessed. If only we could bottle your formula and distribute it to every family in the world there would be no backlogs, no police officers being shot or hurt, and no more unitended targets.
How about a trouble teenage from the GOLDEN DOME area was killed blah blah blah...
Part of witness statement on a homicide we took several years ago: "I was burnin so they took me to the Dome". Translation: I had the clap so they took me to a clinic in /near the Golden Dome.
Irish parents wouldn't make excuses for their idiot kids. They also didn't scramble down the porch to give sound bites to reporters because reporters had better things to do back then.
your all missing the real tragedy in this the baby be dead and there is no one to sue!! least he should have been being chased by the police then we get some money. now theres nothin
As Judge O'Malley in Branch 29 used to say "Other than a child being born, nothing good happens at 3 in the morning"
Jesse Jackson looks like an ass parading around the TV cameras at Ma & Pa Jackson's house.
I should ass, more of an ass like usual....and of course, Jesse Jr demanded that the House of Representatives stand for a moment of silence for a child molester.
"To 2:12 PM,
God Bless you and your family, it is refreshing to hear someone tell it like it should be, that discipline, hard work and education pay off. Your children are truly blessed to have such strong role models in their life just as you were blessed. If only we could bottle your formula and distribute it to every family in the world there would be no backlogs, no police officers being shot or hurt, and no more unitended targets."
Thank you for that. I can't take all of the credit myself. I thank God for a God fearing husband (choice), a decent DePaul education (choice) good teachers (thanks Dr. Hawkins), and strong family values. Something that is sadly lacking in the majority of this community.
Believe it or not, there is a decent community of blacks out there that know the value of hard work and sacrifice, and we pray for you guys every day, and thank you for your dedication to protecting us from the rest of the dregs of society (yeah I said it). Actually, I am one of Officer Airhart's neighbors. If you didn't see my post before, I want to thank the officers who helped look after his house and the neighborhood in general.
"Oh come on now. Which of those amongst us haven't stolen a car in the early morning hours and crashed it for a few laughs? When did we become so judgemental?
6/29/2009 08:42:00 PM"
When we bought our first vehicle on credit.
failure of the community is absolutely right!
But when can we stop walking on eggshells and address the issue of environment and learned behavior.
you cannot respect anything if you never worked for it.
I should ass, more of an ass like usual....and of course, Jesse Jr demanded that the House of Representatives stand for a moment of silence for a child molester
Wonder if ole jesse will do the same for the brother soliciting 17 year old girls while working as a guard in CHA housing. THEY COVER THE SHIT UP LIKE IT DIDNT HAPPEN OR IS OK TO DO. What kinda shit is that?
Saggy pants, butchery of the language under the guise of ebonics, carrying guns, stealing, slinging dope, dependence upon link cards and society's largesse, blaming everything upon "whitey" ...this is all their "culture", it's "racist" to call it what it is...apologism for laziness and stupidity and a big excuse.
6/29/2009 10:04:00 AM
You sir are eloquent.Couldnt have said it better myself.Have a great day.
Another aspiring rap star who was on the verge of tuning his life around. So sad.
Now back to my nap.
And at some point, the kid just failed himself. Here's an example of someone with even less who has made her life so much more.
Not everybody says, "It's not my fault."
Anonymous said...
WoW HOW INSENSATIVE CAN YOU BE! JUST THINK DO YOUR KIDS DO THIS SHIT? WELL WE HAVE NOTHING SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT! YOUD GET HIGH TOO IF YOU LIVED IN THE SHIT OF OUR NIEGHBORHOODS
Whoever wrote this is doing a disservice to these morally impoverished individuals living in the ghetto who complain incessantly about their lot in life instead of doing something about it. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR LIFE! How is it that Mr. Patel can come to the US with nothing and own a 7-11 or Dunkin' Donuts within a few years? He lives simply, his family members help each other and he works 18 hours a day (for what you would call "chump change"). I know, its easier to deal drugs than work for a living. It's hard work getting up early and working hard all day for an unappreciative boss and/or customers. Get over it! Move up from the bottom,educate yourself and work hard! Don't blame your position in life on your sorry circumstances, but change them for the better! Or only blame yourself for your misfortune!
You ghetto rats have nothing but excuses, don't you. Man the hell up and DO SOMETHING to better yourself and end your parasitic tax dollar sucking lifestyle. If you've got money to buy dope, trying buying yourself some schooling so you can get a freakin job so the rest of us working stiffs don't have to support your lazy ass. Oh, and you claim to not have anything, so how the hell did you post your response here. Let me guess, you're using the computer at the library, right?
6/29/2009 11:00:00 AM
Oh great now there will be yet ANOTHER diatribe from Pflegger about one of his "tribe".
But your comment was very aptly worded.
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