More to be Demoted?
Accountability? Or just more games?
- 7 shot in 011, commander gets demoted;
- 6 shot in 015, nothing happens....yet;
- 2 dead in 014, who bears the blame?
And we're looking at a weather report that has mid-to-upper 80s, maybe even a 90 or three coming up. August could be as messy as July was.
UPDATE: interesting comment:
UPDATE: interesting comment:
- In Chicago this July, 42 people were shot and killed, while an additional 183 were shot and wounded
In Afghanistan, 47 U S military were killed and an additional 199 were wounded.
Wrap your head around that for a second...
42 killed here, 47 there.
183 wounded here, 199 there.
Now for the incredible part...
Chicago's numbers are for 1 to 30 July.
Afghanistan's are for the entire year 2009!
We know the Chicago numbers are true. Can anyone cite the sources for the Afghanistan numbers?
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
53 Comments:
Imagine if the ppl here have ak-47s like they do over there...oh wait they do and more
Sorry, should of put it up the first time.
"A total of 47 soldiers have died this year."
"It brings the total number of soldiers wounded in action so far this year to 199."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jul
/30/uk-soldiers-injuries-afghanistan-
july
jody better dump those commanders. not because they are bad commanders,just so it is fair. Washington was great and he got dumped for something he can't control. Hey eric if those guys don't get dumped file a discrimination suit against this shit department.......
Apples and oranges. How many Afghan citizens and enemy combatants have been killed in Afghanistan? That's a more comparable statistic.
I'll take the blame for 014 and you can dump me for it, OH wait a minute, I'M not a commander and besides I don't even work in 014. Last but not least, I don't care.
I'd love to hear the stuttering prick comment on this !!!!
WOW! This city is going nowhere fast.
I wish they'd hurry up and dump the burger queen lady. I have a great "Ace Reporter News Service" interview with Tomahawk Dan.
In regards to one of the victims shot and killed in 014; A news website gives his age at 35 and he has an Irish last name. Plus, the lad is from Arlington Heights. Was this a case of random violence by a spree killer, or was whitey doing something shady such as drug deal, drug or gun purchase, craigslist hooker date, etc. Anybody got any info on this one?
http://www.icasualties.org/oef/
Looks like 136 US killed in 2009 and 104 allied forces as well as of 2Aug09. Some of that # will be those who die of non-combat causes, but some one else can break out the numbers from the detailed individual listings. A-stan is the focus of effort right now and that's upping the #'s. S/F.... A Marine
You're kidding yourself if you think that the weather has anything to do with the number of shootings in chgo. They don't give a fuck if its 90 degrees or 9 degrees. The CPD is'nt a threat to them anymore, and they know they won't be in jail for long. What do they care about the "temperature"? Maybe Phleger can dye the flag white!
half way into july we were on pace to have 70+ homicides. safe to say this city got lucky... but it looks like august is starting off just as bloody.
They just dumped the 014 DC. This guy is new
Wow... we are the ones at war!
Make all commanders Civilians. It seems that the commanders that J-Fed and crew are making are not the police anyway. His qualifications are 1. Pencil pusher 2. Female "hopefully good looking" 3.Good Bullshit artist, because they were never the real police so they must be putting some good bullshit on that resume. 4. last but not least politically or family connected. Seeing this you might agree with me civilians would be no different. How about retired military officers that have seen some real action. "Wishful thinking"
They just dumped the 014 DC. This guy is new
8/03/2009 01:33:00 AM
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Yes, but so what? Somehow, though he was many miles away, home sleeping in his bed, it MUST be his fault that two guys were shot to death while driving their cars at the south end of the district he now commands!
That's what's so ludicrous about the whole 'dump the commander because of the shootings' thing.
They can't demote me goddamnit! I am already AT the bottom of the barrel, still, after 25 years. What you gonna do? Call Ghostbusters? Hah! Get Dugan to write another "We need warriors!" paper? Hah! Just make sure he writes it on soft paper, the better to wiping my ass with.
That's nothing. In Iraq there was a record low 275 violent Iraqi deaths in the month of July http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090801/wl_mideast_afp/iraqunrest. The city of Chicago posted 20% of the death toll for the entire country of freakin Iraq last month! And nearly all those deaths are in a few sections of town. Scary.
Can anyone cite the number of cellphone ANOVs issued in Afganistan for July???
You're kidding yourself if you think that the weather has anything to do with the number of shootings in chgo. They don't give a fuck if its 90 degrees or 9 degrees.
8/03/2009 01:23:00 AM
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I agree with you on that. I remember it was pouring rain, I mean cats and dogs rain and 3 people got lit up in 015.
8/03/2009 12:13:00 AM said: Apples and oranges. How many Afghan citizens and enemy combatants have been killed in Afghanistan? That's a more comparable statistic.
Afghanistan civilian and enemy combatants deaths: 1013 six months from jan 09 thru June ’09 (source United Nations)
249,984 square miles. .0004 deaths per square mile, in a war and counting both sides but not counting allied soldiers.
Population: 32,738,376
One person killed for every 32,318 in the country.....
Chicago, 202 murders from Jan 09 thru June ’09 (source Redeye…I’m a civilian)
228 square miles,.88 Murders per square mile
Population: 2,853,114
one person killed for every 14,124 people in the city.
There you have it, by square mile and by population numbers, population numbers seem the most germane.
---Not a cop, but not that ---not a cop
The figures you're citing (47 deaths) are for British troops in Afghanistan, not U.S. troops. Look closely at the link posted by the first anonymous commentator (uk-soldiers-injuries-afghanistan). For U.S. soldiers, it's 137 killed in 2009 so far.
To the Walrus and the Carpenter, I think you hit the nail on the head. Drug rip gone bad for both sides. The proximity, timing and most of all a suburban wanna be shithead and an authentic 014 shithead. Wouldn't be surprised if they found pistols in both cars or there is a turn in of one found on their escape routes after they pitched it from the car.
'Puddin Pop' to Deputy...LOTT get's 015! You heard it here first!!!
Anonymous said...
They just dumped the 014 DC. This guy is new
8/03/2009 01:33:00 AM
Hope they dump the morale lowering, racist c.o, in 051!! Here comes another "investigative story," thanks lt for making us look like shit retire already goof!
Drop back two kliks and call for an airstrike! The only thing we are missing here is the sandbags and the fightin' holes.
I would declare certain parts of the Westside FREE FIRE ZONES, but, they already are.
Just stay safe out there. Some news organization out to take down the names of all the homicide victims. I'd be willing to bet that most of them will vote in the next election. Obama/Daley Democrats, for life and beyond.
Psst! Word is....The "014th District Tactical Anal Cavity Search" will be authorized for use again on 10 August. At this time it will only be a pilot program limited to the area surrounding Beach/Spaulding.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have the solution..........
Anonymous said...
Apples and oranges. How many Afghan citizens and enemy combatants have been killed in Afghanistan? That's a more comparable statistic.
8/03/2009 12:13:00 AM
BUT MIND NUMBING NUMBERS NONE-THE-LESS
OUR TROOPS ARE THERE RECOGNIZING THEY ARE IN A COMBAT ZONE
I DON'T THINK FREE CITIZENS IN AMERICA SHOULD HAVE TO FEEL THAT SAME WAY
Apples and oranges. How many Afghan citizens and enemy combatants have been killed in Afghanistan? That's a more comparable statistic
excellent point sir, however Afghanistan has been a combat zone for 30+ years, and our ROE aint much better than here. If the element here had RPG's, mortars grenades RPK's etc etc our cities would be charnel houses. We are a city of 3 million that has suffered these stats for July, not a nation at war with itself and everyone else...oh wait a minute...
Well I didn't hear of anyone shot in Norwood Park, edison park, Gladstone Park, jefferson Park. So all is well North of Lawrence and west of Cicero
016 midnights comes through with an excellent burglary to auto pinch after over 7 cars hit for GPS and other stuff.
JUST ASK A VET WHO IS ALSO A COP(lowly Po)THAT SERVED IN EITHER IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN. Chicago is a BS town that wont let the police do their job. Since when does the mayor get the right to do that?????
Will they ever demote the civilians in top exempt spots? The dumb ass "director" in the "human resources" still dont know jack about the police.
In regards to one of the victims shot and killed in 014; A news website gives his age at 35 and he has an Irish last name. Plus, the lad is from Arlington Heights. Was this a case of random violence by a spree killer, or was whitey doing something shady such as drug deal, drug or gun purchase, craigslist hooker date, etc. Anybody got any info on this one?
The kid killed was possibly a member of the S/D's from taylor/western area, a bunch of Cregans in that set, still looking into it...
icasualties.org is the best site for casualties and fatalities in Iraq and Afghanistan. You'll see that American fatalities in 2009 in Afghanistan are 138.
SHIT-CAGO SUCKS !
WHAT DO U EXPECT....M.S.F IS LOCKED DOWN IN ONLY IN 007 AND 011...TRU IS LOCKED IN AREA 2...DOING WHAT THEY DO......WHATS THE ANSWER
Give Chicago 50,000 troops, remote aircraft and throwout the current use of force model and you will see crime go down by 90% percent.
Excuse me you know the Chicagos numbers are true? U can probably add at least another 20% to that number. They kill as much crime as possible.
I agree,
I was watching TV about Manufacturing in Illinois and how this Aluminum company owner had so much trust in his factory workers that Engineers would take their advise on how to design.
Now that's trust;
leadership has to support the troops.
Show me some Love$$$. I sure deserve it
show me respect... I truly earn it
show me that you support me..
You gave our beloved 'fine' citizens the idea that you can 'literally' fuck with the police... To the point that in the 3rd district they starting wearing CPDK t shirts,
you gave 'them' the idea they can shoot at us, run away from us, disrespect us, they are shooting blocks away from us and at us,,,
now what?
What is the next step...
Bosses are realizing that they are not gaining any grounds going that route. So, time to ease the 'leashes'..
What do we do? They asked!!!
Have you noticed they are allowing a bit of vehicle pursuit events?
Now the attempt to change some of the use of force model when it come to fleeing felons and vehicles...
Searches and seizures classes
good ideas... Better training? Is this enough.
You just can't expect to choke us and then you ease off and now you say "give me"
can you reverse what people think of us?
Start within ... Keep at it... Prove urself to us that you are a true leader ... A Sgt, a LT, a commander , a Deputy Chief, a Chief, a Deputy Super, a SUP!!! And whatever else falls in between..,,
Show me MY COMMUNITY and I'll show you What a great member of it I can Be.
J-Fed should be put in command of the forces in Afghanistan. Then he can demote the brass there and start punishing the troops relentlessly until their morale improves. I think shorts, polo shirts and embroidered patches should help decrease US casualties...
You know, I get the point of these stats, that Chicago is more violent that Afghanistan, but it rubs me the wrong way to compare our military war dead with the dead shitheads in Chicago. Just sayin'.
who gives a fuck 42 less ir numbers
To the unpublished:
We didn't publish your tripe because you spent 7 comments and probably a half hour of your time publishing multiple insulting pieces rather than arguing from a factual standpoint.
And we didn't make the comparison asshat. A commentator did and we merely asked if anyone could prove the figures.
So go fuck yourself and take your "lost all respect" comment and shove it up your ass. If you had even the remotest ability to read what we publish and read what we quote from others, you might make mom proud yet.
Well I didn't hear of anyone shot in Norwood Park, edison park, Gladstone Park, jefferson Park. So all is well North of Lawrence and west of Cicero
016 midnights comes through with an excellent burglary to auto pinch after over 7 cars hit for GPS and other stuff.
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That's the best news I've heard all day. Keep up the good work.
What about Beverly?
Did you see what the paper stated?
Crime is up ?
What's with that?
Ahh? We have a New Tact Lt..,
wait... He is on furlo..
Wait .. Wait...
Do we have a Commander?
May be...
I think they should have any newly promoted commanders assigned to a mentor... Not a pastor... I mean a mentor who is knowledgable of what's going on..,,
Almost like PPO with an FTO,,,
so let's call this PCP.. Probationary Command Position ...
We went through 3 cycles + evaluation period + refresher course and they should do the same...
At least teach some the new PCP's how to use the radio, especially those who've been in the caves for sooo long,
how to plan... Communicate... Etc etc ...
Anonymous said...
The figures you're citing (47 deaths) are for British troops in Afghanistan, not U.S. troops. Look closely at the link posted by the first anonymous commentator (uk-soldiers-injuries-afghanistan). For U.S. soldiers, it's 137 killed in 2009 so far.
8/03/2009 10:40:00 AM
I THOUGHT ALL BRITISH TROOPS WERE WITHDRAWN FROM THE COALITION FORCES?
Anonymous said...
Make all commanders Civilians. It seems that the commanders that J-Fed and crew are making are not the police anyway. His qualifications are 1. Pencil pusher 2. Female "hopefully good looking" 3.Good Bullshit artist, because they were never the real police so they must be putting some good bullshit on that resume. 4. last but not least politically or family connected. Seeing this you might agree with me civilians would be no different. How about retired military officers that have seen some real action. "Wishful thinking"
8/03/2009 07:46:00 AM
Wonder what Ollie North is up to ?
8/03/2009 08:56:00 PM said: but it rubs me the wrong way to compare our military war dead with the dead shitheads in Chicago
I agree, Which is why in my comparison, posted 8/03/2009 10:10:00 AM, I left out allied casualties.
This is also not meant to lump all of the 200+ murder victims as dead shitheads as you say, there are about a dozen who I would say were innocent victims in that number reading all their stories.
--not a cop but not that not a cop--
Can anyone cite the number of cellphone ANOVs issued in Afganistan for July???
8/03/2009 09:25:00 AM
ANOV's in Afghanistan? For combat like that its pure event numbers and impounds! You get a few hundred event numbers and some impounds, the Taliban wont know what the fuck to do! Bin Laden himself will surrender cause some blueshirt impounded his ride / cammel!
'Puddin Pop' to Deputy...LOTT get's 015! You heard it here first!!!
Oh "Puddin Pop", do you still dress in a red suit and pass out the roses to the "ladies" on Valentine's Day?
No matter how many Police you put out on the street...these animals still find a way to kill each other!!
merit lieutenants promoted to captains and command staff all the time it's hard to believe that supervisors that passed sergeants and lieutenant tests aren't promoted to the command staff
wouldn't you like to see more sergeants as exempts that actually passed the sergeant test without merit that's why all sergeants and police officers should apply for the exempt positions
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