At What Cost?
4% a year raises for teachers. Increased spending. Capital improvements. New buildings. And the final result?
Chicago Public School students barely budged on fourth- and eighth-grade national math tests this year, despite a six-year push to improve mathematics instruction, federal data released today indicates.
CPS fourth and eighth graders posted the 10th highest scores among students of 18 big-city districts that gave their students the 2009 National Assessment of Educational Progress, often called the “Nation’s Report Card.’’
Chicago inched up slightly from 2007, the last time the test was given, but not to any statistically significant degree — a pattern common among many big cities tested.
On the other hand, crime is supposedly down. We'll have yet another year of sub-500 homicides if trends continue (even if shootings are way up). Property crime is being reduced (on paper). Police responding to calls hours later due to manpower shortages means frustrated citizens aren't sticking around to report as many assaults, batteries or stick-ups. We're operating at least 600 officers short on paper and probably more in actual street officers. But we can't get a contract. At least we're getting results.
Maybe the teachers should give some money back?
Maybe the teachers should give some money back?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/15/stress-cities-ten-forbeslife-cx_md_0915cities_slide_11.html?thisSpeed=15000 CHICAGO NUMBER 1 MOST STRESSFUL CITY IN THE COUNTRY
CPS economics are not performsnce driven. Obviously!
So, this was Arne's big success?
010 had one tonight...Chalkie!!!!
CPS needs to go back to the old math. You know, math the kids understand.
Shorty G drops off 1 kilo of Hash to June bug, June bug must then give 7 equal shares to the workers, how much will each worker get?
Problem solved.
YOUR NOT BLAMING TEACHERS 4 THE IDIOT KIDS IN CPS?
DONT STUDY
CUT CLASSES
PARENTS NOT INVOLVED
UNWED MOMS
DONT TAKE SHOTS AT OTHER UNION FOR DOING THERE JOB IT'S WEAK!
It is quite impossible to teach a pile of rocks anything at all. You must move them by hand. That is why the schools promote so many dummies each year.
Shanks could care less if they learn or not. He just prays that they all show up on the first day of school so that $$$$$$$ will keep flowing in.
If the teachers are good, they derserve everything they get for working in that sewer called the chicago public school system. How can you teach kids who don't care and who have parents who don't care. I subbed for a few years, what a zoo. However, too many teachers are graduates of Chicago State University and are stupid.
Don't forget to give credit to Paula Wolff, former policy wonk at Renaissance 2010 (now head of the Illinois Tollway also formerly President of Governor State University), for all the schoool closings and "reconstitutions" (substitute job turnovers) during this period too. Provided lots of stability.
Teachers actually work a whole 5 1/2 - maybe 6 hrs a day including lunch & class prep. Not like the old days of 9-3 plus prep.
One of our neighbors makes almost as much as a 20 yr police officer and she's been teaching in a gifted south side school for almost a whole 6 yrs, and she's been teaching for 7.
Fair??? No way.
Re: 09 Dec 09 @ 0653hrs. ... better yet, and this is easier for the "future scientists" to figure out. If the transport van picks you up at the Area at 0500hrs, and travels at 30 mph., how long will it take to get to Receiving at CCDOC? !!!
the teachers the problem the parents -- or lack thereof -- are.
No amount of money can fix what walks into the schools in the morning. Education begins at home.
In the 45 years of the war on poverty, the only thing the government has done is create a permanent, dependent, underclass.
Anonymous said...
CPS needs to go back to the old math. You know math the kids understand. Shorty G drops off 1 kilo of Hash to June bug, June bug must then give 7 equal shares to the workers, how much will each worker get? Problem solved.
12/09/2009 06:53:00 AM
Who sells hash on the streets. You're an idiot
Public education: The worst return on investment government program in effect. $12000 per child for a dimsall graduation rate, what a monumental waste of money.
Luberman can't solve the problem. Arne can't solve the problem. The only thing that will solve the problem is putting the kids and their parents in check. Cut the aid, we can not longer sustain the financial drain.
Don't cry. Just give out another Phat Phil crime fightin' ribboon...
And Obama made the former head of the CPS, Arne Duncan the new US Secretary of Education... Amazing.
And then Mayor Shortshanks places Ron Luberman in as head of the CPS.
My question is, Did Michael Scott know these poor results were about to published and that pushed him over the edge? Forget that... that is silly, it was actually over all the corruption.
I hope that this latest revelation doesn't come as a surprise to anyone. We all know that the majority of CPS kids are as dumb as the day is long thanks to a plethora of factors.
As an example, when a 6 year old doesn't know his/her alphabet, phone number, address or father's name, it's usually a good indication that this child will be a complete failure for if not all, the majority of his/her life.
Not to worry, though. Arne Duncan and Ronnie Huberman have made great strides in their respective tenure at the helm of the most dismal institution to ever soak up the majority of yours and my property tax bill.
CPS is the educational equivalent of The War On Drugs.
I have some friends that are teachers. Some actually give a damn, but they say their biggest problem is bureaucracy. If they try to kick a disruptive kid out of class, they have to now file a report as to why and it gets scrutinized for review. At which time, they have to sit in front of the Man and explain why they kicked a disruptive kid out of class. When they try to have a meeting with the parent about it, more than half the time the parent either doesn't show, or shows up, screaming at them at how their kid would NEVER disrupt a class with their ridiculous behavior.
Its a vicious cycle that won't end until the parent actually takes some responsibility.
I wouldn't say the issue is that teachers keep getting money, its just that the cops get zero support from the city.
As another run of the mill citizen that enjoys this blog, you have my support. Not sure what we can really do to help cops out though. Apparently we aren't even allowed to buy you guys a coffee as a token of our appreciation. No bribe, no freebie, just a gift from an honest taxpayer who wants to lighten the burden.
How about building some more schools on the NW side of the city? These kids are crammed in old buildings or put in motor trailers for school rooms. Edgebrook school and Onahan are good examples. Many of the kids going there are from hard working CPD and CFD employees who pay taxes up the ass, have no contracts and no raises, and get nothing for their kids. I don't see any of the freebee "handouts" at the beginning of the year like you see elsewhere in the city. Taft HS is doing a decent turn-around and can use more space. All these buildings are on huge lots, why can't they add-on some more buildings here? We are sick of having to work 3 jobs to send our kids to Catholic schools, why can't the city put more money in the public schools in these areas?
"As another run of the mill citizen that enjoys this blog, you have my support. Not sure what we can really do to help cops out though. Apparently we aren't even allowed to buy you guys a coffee as a token of our appreciation. No bribe, no freebie, just a gift from an honest taxpayer who wants to lighten the burden.
12/09/2009 07:10:00 PM"
your vote is more valuable than anything else you have.
cast it wisely, and not for any incumbent.
Who sells hash on the streets. You're an idiot
12/09/2009 01:06:00 PM
Dude, you need to lighten up, I think someone was making a joke.
"How about building some more schools on the NW side of the city? These kids are crammed in old buildings or put in motor trailers for school rooms. Edgebrook school and Onahan are good examples. Many of the kids going there are from hard working CPD and CFD employees who pay taxes up the ass...Taft HS is doing a decent turn-around and can use more space...."
Taft HS? Are you joking? Have you seen the caliber of student that walks out of Taft at dismissal everyday? They do not live in Norwood or Edison Park. They ride the bus and come from 015 and 025.
Cry me a river, pal. You send your kids to those free schools and get to pocket the $3000 per kid for elementary and the $10,000 per kid for HS per year I'm paying the Catholic schools on the NW side. But I feel your pain, brother. It must be tough only getting to buy a new SUV every two years instead of every year to pull those waverunners to your cabin in WI.
I hope the toys are worth the probable longterm damage you're doing to your children by sending them through the CPS System. That probably doesn't matter because you're grooming them to grow up and become another city slave like you.
Teachers actually work a whole 5 1/2 - maybe 6 hrs a day including lunch & class prep. Not like the old days of 9-3 plus prep.
One of our neighbors makes almost as much as a 20 yr police officer and she's been teaching in a gifted south side school for almost a whole 6 yrs, and she's been teaching for 7.
Fair??? No way.
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I'm a retired PO who is currently teaching. Please don't bash teachers. Teachers in grammar schools work 6 hours and do not get a lunch. They have to eat with the children. If they're lucky, they get a prep period 2-3 times a week and a 20 min. break if an aide has time to come to their room. They have lesson plans and grading to do at home, which sometimes takes hours. High School is slightly better as teachers get preps and a lunch, but they are in school for over 7 hours and also have a lot of work to do at home. Teachers are required to further their education to renew their certificates with no reimbursement from the city. I've done both and believe me, POs have it better. I come home exhausted every day wishing I wouldn't have retired from the CPD for weekends and summers off. Anonymous is also off on the pay scale. A teacher with 7 years is making under 55,000 a year. I don't think this is what an officer with 20 years on the job makes. Let's support teachers and POs. Both jobs are difficult.
Teachers actually work a whole 5 1/2 - maybe 6 hrs a day including lunch & class prep. Not like the old days of 9-3 plus prep.
One of our neighbors makes almost as much as a 20 yr police officer and she's been teaching in a gifted south side school for almost a whole 6 yrs, and she's been teaching for 7.
Fair??? No way.
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If she teaches in a gifted school then she is lucky, she probably has parents who care! My wife is a CPS teacher and I see all the work that she has to do every day! Being a cop is easier! Imagine if you have to read, approve and grade all the reports on your shift every night at home! Then you have to contact the parents of the offenders you arrested that day and hear about how they can't control their kid! ALL on your time and money! I would need 2 months off if I had to deal with that for 10 months! We get paid more to do less, hour per WORKING hour! My wife is lucky if she can get 20 min of uninterrupted lunch before she has to prepare for her next class. Most of the time she has no time for lunch! Coppers complain when the dispatcher calls them for a job when they were about to ask for lunch even though they were sitting down for 10min already!
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