Welcome 4-and-2!
Today begins the 4-on-2-off schedule. Actually, it began almost three hours ago with the midnight crew starting early.
We're sure there will be kinks to work out, the car schedule is like something out of a Three Stooges episode and the start times will require some adjustment, but all in all, we'll be glad to see the end of the six-in-a-row schedule.
Open post in the meantime.
We're sure there will be kinks to work out, the car schedule is like something out of a Three Stooges episode and the start times will require some adjustment, but all in all, we'll be glad to see the end of the six-in-a-row schedule.
Open post in the meantime.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
204 Comments:
Man, I already feel more rested and I haven't even started it yet. Its just nice to know that there will be no more 6 day weeks!
6 & 3 is better! You'll be pissing and moaning about 4 & 2 very shortly!
The car schedule is a nightmare, written by a bunch of policy-dweebs who've never worked a beat car. You'll never have 'your' car two days in a row and now they're full of food bags and never get gassed or washed.
Guys, remember, even though you won't drive the same car every day anymore... you've GOT to check oil and fluids on the cars when you gas up. Now more than ever before.
General orders require it and if you blow the engine, it's on YOU. And motor maintenance will hang you out to dry in about half a heartbeat. CHECK the OIL, especially in the trucks. They burn through oil almost as fast as they burn through gas.
I'm so damn glad to see that 6 straight days in the rear view!
That was a crazy schedule and i can't imagine how that passed to begin with. By the 5th and 6th days i was a loose cannon. I just can't take 6 straight days of having to deal with the ghetto bs.
This new schedule will be a breaze. I'll work two days with each partner then be off. I won't even have time to get sick of my partners. Thank you FOP.
O.T.
Glenn Beck had an interesting program tonight. Maybe a rerun from during the week. He had an all black "conservative" audience. Didn't know that there were so many conservatives in the black community.
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
This car rotation thing is just too wierd. But i'm definitely looking forward to only a 4 day work week. Should've gotten rid of the 6th day a long long time ago. Oddly enough every CR i got was from an incident on my 6th day. Maybe my patience was worn thin by then....
Can you imagine, we'll never again have to work more than four straight days. That's just amazing. I hear absolutely nothing but great things from people that are in districts using this schedule. I can't wait to get into the swing of things and get used to just coming in for four days then back to RDO's.
Nothing beats zero on and seven off. Keep those monthly pension checks coming in.
WHAT WORK SCHEDULE ARE THE EVIDENCE TECHS ON?THEY PROMOTED A CLASS OF EM,THEY START MONDAY!
I love it. No more 6-2 with every 28day change of watch schedule. Yes kid i said every 28 days. We changed watches too. Now get some time on the job and quit your whining.
The REVOLVER POLICE!
Does anyone know if the 4 and 2 will some day be applied to all units in the dept?
Need more cars, radios, PDTs, and Tasers!
major cluster fuck already--- not enough cars and dispatchers lost in outer space.....
I never thought I would see this day! Good riddance 6 and 2!
Some will continue to complain but not me, too many years of 6 day work weeks, I will NEVER work more than 4 in a row again!
It is beginning to look like I might just make it to max pension. With 4 and 2 and a full year of medical time, piece of cake.
Use Pullium for your taxes He's on 111st just past Homan. He does a load of Coppers taxes and knows deductions that we get that others never knew.
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
It's not what you get back, it's what they keep. That's your tax.
Biggest problem is you have people crying about how they want Their car and it's unfair that cars are given out first come first server. News flash morons these are department vehicles not your own personal vehicle so quit crying and take what is given to you. If you want that gay Tahoe get to work nice and early you losers.
Anonymous said...
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
It's called tax fraud, aka, "I'm tired of paying to support all the lazy, non-working MFers out there who think society "owes" them because of some BS reason or another from the past".
Unless you enjoy working to support the slackers of the world, find out what your tax guy isn't doing that the other tax guys are!
A class of ETs. All five of them. Yahoo.
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
Hire a CPA, who has something to lose and can give you tax planning. You get what you pay for. Others that get 3 to 4 times probably don't sleep good at night.
WHAT WORK SCHEDULE ARE THE EVIDENCE TECHS ON?THEY PROMOTED A CLASS OF EM,THEY START MONDAY!
1/10/2010 01:14:00 AM
Old schedule as of now.
I wanted the 1 on 6 off schedule...but they wouldn't listen.
Much better for your health than rotating every 28 days and 6 on.
old retired guy
O.T.
Glenn Beck had an interesting program tonight. Maybe a rerun from during the week. He had an all black "conservative" audience. Didn't know that there were so many conservatives in the black community.
1/10/2010 12:57:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
i know a good guy....hes a copper...usually get between 5-6k
major cluster fuck already--- not enough cars and dispatchers lost in outer space.....
Lost in outer space lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really wish we could choose who dispatched us WTF the new guy on z8 afternoons is truely unqualified to dispatch on a very busy and dangerous zone!!! please help someone!!!!?????
Masters
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
Be very careful with THOSE tax guys that promise you big refunds. Sure its good to get the big check, but when the MAN starts poking around your return and discovers all the bullshit these tax guys put into it, you will be stuck holding the bag. Not worth it.
OT
RIP:
Det. William D. Higgins , 58
Retired Detective A/2 VC
9 Jan 2010
one of the best
m tully
very jealous..hopefully all units will get it someday soon!
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
Do you own a home? If so you can itemize (your interest and property taxes would get you over the standard deduction, plus any child credits) but if you don't it is very hard to get over and above the standard deduction. There have been some that claim to get over the standard deduction w/o owning a home and I find that impossible without cooking the books so to speak. Remember you have to be able to prove what you are writing off if you ever get audited. What you should try to do is never owe or get a refund. Change your withholdings to maximize your pay check. You are basically giving the fed an interest free loan by getting a refund either way. I know some people like getting the refund because they can't save on their own, but wouldn't you rather have the extra money available to you each check. You can change your W-4 when ever you want. If I was getting back $8000 grand a year I would change my withholding to compensate for that, it $333 more per pay check. Hope this helps. Plus use a CPA versus a tax preparer....you will get better advise.
I was a proponent of the 2-4 decades ago!
What?
4-2?
Oh.
Nevermind!
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
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The main question is do you have a home mortgage? If you do and you are getting that amount back, you are getting f*cked big time. If you dont, then you wont get a larger refund but that still seems a little low.
There is a place on milwaukee ave in 016 who does lots of coppers, firemen, and city workers.
Evans - Gzesh Co 4165 n milwaukee
773-481-1115
Ask for Gerry Gzesh. I've been going to her for years and she knows all about our uniform allowance, furloughs, IOD, etc.
The car schedule is a nightmare, written by a bunch of policy-dweebs who've never worked a beat car. You'll never have 'your' car two days in a row and now they're full of food bags and never get gassed or washed.
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Hey tough guy since you're so smart, email your better work schedule to SCC considering all the factors involved and publish it on here so we can see how smart you think you are. Please bless us with your intellect. Just another loud mouth know it all with nothing to back it up.
The E.T's are still onthe old schedule.
Anonymous said...
The car schedule is a nightmare, written by a bunch of policy-dweebs who've never worked a beat car. You'll never have 'your' car two days in a row and now they're full of food bags and never get gassed or washed.
Guys, remember, even though you won't drive the same car every day anymore... you've GOT to check oil and fluids on the cars when you gas up. Now more than ever before.
General orders require it and if you blow the engine, it's on YOU. And motor maintenance will hang you out to dry in about half a heartbeat. CHECK the OIL, especially in the trucks. They burn through oil almost as fast as they burn through gas.
1/10/2010 12:31:00 AM
My God, what a whiny bitch! "Your car" my ass. You need it washed so you can cruise for ladies??? You have 8 1/2 to get gas and you are getting paid to do it!! P.S. the gas is free.
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Anonymous said...
6 & 3 is better! You'll be pissing and moaning about 4 & 2 very shortly!
1/10/2010 12:26:00 AM
The idea is to not have to work 6 days in a row. I worked 4/2 and it is great. I'm sure you will be pissing and moaning no matter what we get, you seem like the type.
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Ta-Da!!!! after working 6 in a row for 20+ years in the GHETTO!!!(and his momma cried and so am I happy 75th Elvis! )I will love this 4 and 2. Many thanks FOP and superintendent Weis.
Off topic. While I am sick of reading all the complaining from the 17th district that is what this blog is for,blowing off steam.I also would like to say to all the officers who think they are overworked and underpaid and the "real police" because they work in 7(hell on earth) 15,3,6, ect, at some point that is your choice. You are no better than any other complainer and we all have many reasons to complain. Personally I like working in busy districts because the work day passes quickly not because it reassures me of my worth. I also like working the street but have no problem with the officers who work the desk. They are needed and that is a job I am ill suited for. Me telling John Q Johnson that the next time he bothers me for BS I will take his phone and beat him with it, would not fly with the desk Sgt.
I own 2 homes have 2 28 day furloughs,plenty of ot, tons of great stories and a pension awaiting me. You are as happy as you want to be in this life. Stay frosty.
Anonymous said...
I never thought I would see this day! Good riddance 6 and 2!
Some will continue to complain but not me, too many years of 6 day work weeks, I will NEVER work more than 4 in a row again!
It is beginning to look like I might just make it to max pension. With 4 and 2 and a full year of medical time, piece of cake.
1/10/2010 04:43:00 AM
Heard the airports and mass trasit bosses want it,along with all the officers but FLOP is stonewalling it what say you mark? Looks also like greg bella is going to run for flop president and is telling people that MIKE SHIELDS will not run,come on mike sweep it and reform our union thanks mike1
6 & 3 is better! You'll be pissing and moaning about 4 & 2 very shortly!
Well, having never worked the 6 & 3 I guess I just don't know what I missed.
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
What gives? It's called SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT!
not enough cars and dispatchers lost in outer space.....
When was the last time we had enough cars to go around? As for the dispatchers, well.........
Burn that time due at a record pace. You now have a 4 on 3 off schedule. Screw the $$$ when you retire. Your sanity now is worth more than any $$$ 25 years from ow.
I am truly embarrassed by this generation of P.O.s with such 'soft hands'. Toughen up. I swear you sound like a bunch of school girls. You have no idea what work is.
"6 & 3 is better! You'll be pissing and moaning about 4 & 2 very shortly!"
I'm willing to bet that you have never worked the 4 and 2, so quit your whining already. I was fortunate enough to work the 4 and 2 pilot program and I couldn't be happier. Your work week FLIES by. My kids are much happier and I feel less burned out. There will always be people like you out there that piss and moan about anything and everything.
Anonymous said...
6 & 3 is better! You'll be pissing and moaning about 4 & 2 very shortly!
1/10/2010 12:26:00 AM
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I can guarantee I won't be "pissing and moaning about the 4 & 2 very shortly, Einstein! Maybe the 6 & 3 is better for you, that's a matter of personal preference. After working the 6 & 2 for almost 25 yrs, the 4 & 2 is a most welcome change. I am looking forward to this. To some of you youngsters out there, realize this department does NOTHING in a hurry. This is equivelant to man walking on the moon!!
BE SAFE!
I/F
Anonymous said...
I'm so damn glad to see that 6 straight days in the rear view!
That was a crazy schedule and i can't imagine how that passed to begin with. By the 5th and 6th days i was a loose cannon. I just can't take 6 straight days of having to deal with the ghetto bs.
Anonymous said...
I'm so damn glad to see that 6 straight days in the rear view!
That was a crazy schedule and i can't imagine how that passed to begin with. By the 5th and 6th days i was a loose cannon. I just can't take 6 straight days of having to deal with the ghetto bs.
This new schedule will be a breaze. I'll work two days with each partner then be off. I won't even have time to get sick of my partners. Thank you FOP...
1/10/2010 12:54:00
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This goof and the rest of you whiners sound like the Private that Patton slapped!! For Pete's sake, get a grip.
1/10/2010 12:54:00
I dont wanna give up my 6 and 3! I took and extra day off and I feel like I've been off for a week! 6-3 is the way to go!
Everything that glitters aint gold! The calm before the storm, perhaps?
Wait til you start standing around waitng on a car for hours, the city keeps trying to get more than 40hrs out of us. let us work 40hrs like normal people. Yeah 4-2 but, why 9hrs?, why not 5-3 with 8hr days?...
OT
Lisa Madigan Does not want you to have your 2nd Amnd Rights.
http://www.wbez.org/Content.aspx?audioID=39244
Try to foloow her f-ed up twisted logic, if you can.
Anonymous said...
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
It depends on your dependents, side jobs, mortage, marital status, out-of pocket medial, and legite deductions. There is no "secret special tax guy" it's based on a formula. Seriously, unless you have a trust, stocks, and a couple mortages, you can do just fine with turbo tax.
Are People Supposed to be left out of the 4 and 2? Isn't that a Contract Violation?
"6 & 3 is better! You'll be pissing and moaning about 4 & 2 very shortly!"
Quiet down there dumbass. Working a 5th and 6th day is not better. Pull your head from your ass and stick it in the toilet!
"Need more cars, radios, PDTs, and Tasers!"
We have always needed more of the above- you just figured that out? Are you going to tell us our contract expired too?
we have some ''lightweights'' that can barely handle 4-2 schedule. how can you have 3 years on the job and be tired/burntout? lots of bullshitters out there. 4-2 is a great change. enjoy!
6 AND 3 IS NOT BETTER. HOW IS WORKING 6 DAYS IN A ROW BETTER? If you want the 6 3 then go to 008 or 013! Stop fucking whining. Every copper wanted that 6th day eliminated, now you have it and you still fucking bitch. You clowns whine about losing your 3 day weekends. Ohhh boy, those great 3 day weekends that came every 6 fucking weeks? Big deal! Now every week is quick and easy and I dont have to wait 6 weeks for something to look forward to
LIFM...Need help with the car schedule? give me a call 4112..
I love it. No more 6-2 with every 28day change of watch schedule. Yes kid i said every 28 days. We changed watches too. Now get some time on the job and quit your whining.
The REVOLVER POLICE!
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No ones impressed!! You probably didnt do any work back then either
We always had some people who worked MIDNIGHTS because of family or just fit their lives better.
This new schedule really suck for MIDNIGHTS and even fewer are going to want to work these hours.
It is long past time to get a real incentive, money or timewise to work MIDNIGHTS or THIRD WATCH.
From someone who remember ROTATING WATCHES.
Anonymous said...
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
Get your refund in one dollar bills, it will feel like more, put a hundred on the outside and make a gangster roll. Then please burn your computer.
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know if the 4 and 2 will some day be applied to all units in the dept?
1/10/2010 01:59:00 AM
No, no one knows.
Anonymous said...
Can you imagine, we'll never again have to work more than four straight days. That's just amazing. I hear absolutely nothing but great things from people that are in districts using this schedule. I can't wait to get into the swing of things and get used to just coming in for four days then back to RDO's.
1/10/2010 01:05:00 AM
Remember, it will still be the police department. 4 days or 6, still the CPD, in a city run by daley. Better but full time pension trumps it all.
dump daley 2011
Regarding the post warning about being responsible for checking the fluids in the vehicles...
BULLSHIT. While it's true the G.O.'s say we're responsible, THE DEPARTMENT HAS NEVER TRAINED ME TO CHECK OIL, WASHER FLUID, ETC. Therefore, if and when (when is more likely given the piss-poor condition and mileage on our cars) a motor locks-up in your Crown Vic, you have the best affirmative defense available. "Hell, I even have to stop by my mechanic to check for proper tire inflation on my personal car" will be part of my To-From. Some coppers out South used this defense at my urging after filling the new diesel wagon with regular unleaded gasoline.
Until they make you (at the VERY least) watch a streaming video in roll call AND SIGN-OFF ACKNOWLEDGING PROFICIENCY IN CHECKING FLUIDS, refuse to play mechanic for the City. Oh?...that horrific metal-on-metal grinding? All that smoke pouring out of the tailpipe? I have no clue what that is, Sarge...I'M NOT A MECHANIC.
We already have too many things for which we're responsible. We have to sign off acknowledging all kinds of bullshit a few times a year that makes us culpable in same way, shape or form when something doesn't go quite the way the department demands. Why in the Hell should you or I be left holding the bag when an engine goes on a car with 120,000-plus, beaten on miles? The same car which has been neglected since shortly after it joined the fleet. The same car which probably has had some kind of major engine work just to keep it barely running. The same car that should've been downed for officer safety for any number of reasons (bad brakes, bald tires, shitty alignment, non-working windows & door handles/locks just to name a few) a long time ago. You don't have to be a mechanic to know there's a problem when your squad won't stop or steer properly.
I don't know about you, but I've had enough of being liable for things that are completely out of my control. Quit being a patsy painting yourself into corners for this thankless job.
Having three days off in the 6 and 3 is great. I know I'm still working 6 in a row but with the 3 days off I can work a day special and still have 2 days off.
Does anyone know if the 4 and 2 will some day be applied to all units in the dept?
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it can't be addressed till the contract it settled. this comes from our unit rep.
Thanks FOP or keeping us on the 10 hour days your the best.
FOP you suck
1/10/2010 12:57:00 AM
"...conservatives in the black community."
They're out there, don't be fooled by jesse, sharpton, meeks et al. Those fools preach everything except responsibility, hard work, education, delayed gratification and doing right by the next generation. They've become very wealthy pandering to the pinkie lib-tards, the resolute non-contributors and dead-enders by preaching victimology instead of being active and getting out on the corners kicking the young bucks in the ass instead of whining to Barry for a federal investigation (DOJ & the Courts have their place but of late have become the last refuge of first resort for these scoundrels) when some of these throw-aways get a justifiable & well deserved hair combing by the Police. BTW, the law abiding citizens (regardless of origin) really wish the Police were free and able to handle street business the way it really SHOULD be handled. They would stand up and applaud if were safe to do so.
(Just not quite at that point yet, it would be a great thing though.)
If you want to know about being up against it and having tough time yet being able to carve out a niche, get to know some of the old people on the beat. They'll be happy to tell you the real score if you're honest and respectful. There are no old time black coppers left. (ca. 1940's to 1965-ish) They can tell you stories about being pioneers on the job that would make you cry. But they hung tough and gave a good account of themselves and were overwhelmingly fabulous coppers to boot.
More insight, savvy and clear-eyed common sense (ok, conservatism if you must) in the black community than you think but they're outnumbered by the shrill shills.
...The POTUS is hollow and has no substance to call his own. An artificial being created by and foisted on the U.S. by Daley Inc. He has nothing in common with the fools running around on election night. They just don't know it yet but they've served their purpose.
I wish they had it when I was around
It was a long hard battle. It took two administrations. Thank you FOP for the good fight
For 30 years I worked 6 on 2 off for 5 weeks before getting 2 three day week ends and I survived like so many others; but it was fuckin' hard.
The 4/2 will work out very well. A piece of advice for those missing their 3 days week ends: use elective time, i.e. work three off three and it will only cost you 8.5 hours. Good luck, brothers.
Jimmy Carroll said............
"It is beginning to look like I might just make it to max pension. With 4 and 2 and a full year of medical time, piece of cake."
1/10/2010 04:43:00 AM
Hey, Jimmy, you are retired!
OT *** Hey, SCC. Saw this new Law Enforcement Org. is just starting out and thought you and/or your readers might want to have a look.
http://modernknight.org/
Anonymous said...
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
Wow your guy sucks. Me and the wife always get back 8-10k. When I was single I was always getting back at least 4000.
Need to give J-Fed credit, he did say he would do away with the 6 day work week. He did it in less than 2 years. I have 16 on and if we waited for FOP to do it I would still be waiting another 16 years.
Anonymous said...
6 & 3 is better! You'll be pissing and moaning about 4 & 2 very shortly!
1/10/2010 12:26:00 AM
We were not about to get 6-3 so whatever schedule is better, we have 4-2, no more 6-2. Thank God for small favors.
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
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B & G Tax Services
3440 Ridge Meadow Street,
Las Vegas, NV
(866) 735-2800
Retired P.O. Ed Gallowich from 025 and Court Services . .
Give him a call .. he's great. He does over 100 CPD guys. You just send everything to him in the mail and set up a telephone appointment.
He knows how to squeeze every cent out of write-offs for coppers.
Man, I already feel more rested and I haven't even started it yet. Its just nice to know that there will be no more 6 day weeks!
1/10/2010 12:14:00 AM
You and me both! I FEEL LIKE A FUCKIN FIREMAN.
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/crime/story/1086418.html
another police officer ambushed luckily this one survived. Be careful out there especially when working 99.
Does anyone know how many E.Ts got made and who they are I heard this is going to be the last class off of that list.
Check the engine?! I must of missed that mechanics class in the academy!
ATTENTION!!! This may be old news, but I just found out that the SGT.'s don't have to burn. 1/2 hour when taking a baby furlough day, but we do. Under the 4-2 their baby furlough days are an entire day off. How the hell is that fair? The SGT.'s always have a "me too clause" when it comes to things we get, but I guess it doesn't go both ways. What BS!! The Sgt's only difference between us and them should be the pay and everthing else should be the same. They get a nice raise, better duty availability, an extra 45 mins a day and 25 working furlough days. The perks for 4-2 should be the same for all who are in it. FOP needs to fix this and grievences should be filed.
Six and three is the absolute best. I've worked six and two, five and two, four and two and six and three. I know the goal has been to eliminate the sixth day but when you have three days off each week, it's like getting a baby furo every week. Tack on an extra day on the front or end of your work week and man it's nice. I guarantee you a year from now after seeing how much T/D we will be burning now, we will be regretting not demanding the six and three schedule. We payed right into the cities hand.
I am so delighted with the new shift for my fiance.
The car rotation schedule as it stands now, simply won't work in my district. All of our new Tahoes have now been involved in
crashes! Some people weren't on time for roll call either, but other than that, it seemed to work out ok.
ok anybody have the beat tag thing figured out yet? What do the 3rd and 1st watch desk crew do between 2000 and 2230 hours? they over lap
4-2 IS AWESOME! Only got 1 more day and I'm not tired or burned out at all.
As for the guy who needs a tax guy.
You need write offs to get the max in returns. I got a retired Sgt been doing mine for years, he is a CPA. He knows all the good police write offs. Call for an appt.
Ret Sgt. Jack Brown
PH(773)594-0916
Northwest side of city
I don't know why cops have to be so negative. The 4 and 2 just started and right off the bat, when I got into the locker room there was constant negativity. "Oh this fucking sucks, now I can't take my nap before I come to work", "Jody sucks", "this aint gonna work", "I hate starting at 2100 hours", etc...
Thank God that awful six in a row work schedule is gone. And remember this; despite all of the issues we have, we still have a great job, with good pay (if you are the one complaining of not having enough money then you should learn how to manage your personal finances), awesome vacation time, a great brotherhood and tremendous job security (just look at the state of our economy).
off topic:i ordered some of that mullens apple sauce,damn that shit is good,all i can say is get u sum
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
WARNING my fellow officer. If you are working and getting a straight W2 and somehow a tax professional is getting you a ton of money back, he or she may be playing loose with the IRS rules. And if you get caught, guess who has to pay through the nose? It would be you.
Two years ago, H and R Block was sued my multiple clients because they were playing fast and loose with the rules and getting their clients a lot of money back. Once the IRS found out, they audited those clients and they had to pay through the nose, the ass and any other cavity the IRS could find.
Anonymous said...
Wait til you start standing around waitng on a car for hours, the city keeps trying to get more than 40hrs out of us. let us work 40hrs like normal people. Yeah 4-2 but, why 9hrs?, why not 5-3 with 8hr days?...
1/10/2010 11:02:00 AM
Is it possible to make you happy? WTF! Be like normal people? Remember, normal people work real jobs and are subject to layoffs and to be fired. How can one hour make a difference? If you have to wait for the car, so be it. STFU!
To "Way to be impartial..."
We aren't bitching about the same car moron. We said the entire schedule looked like something out of a 3 Stooges episode. Try some reading comprehension courses.
Anonymous said...
Man, I already feel more rested and I haven't even started it yet. Its just nice to know that there will be no more 6 day weeks!
1/10/2010 12:14:00 AM
You and me both! I FEEL LIKE A FUCKIN FIREMAN.
1/10/2010 02:43:00 PM
Fireman show up for a 24 hour shift. Polish the rig and cook. Big difference between fire and police.
I really wish we could choose who dispatched us WTF the new guy on z8 afternoons is truely unqualified to dispatch on a very busy and dangerous zone!!! please help someone!!!!?????
1/10/2010 08:05:00 AM
yes, you are absolutely correct...he is truly unqualified and I'm glad he's no longer on 2nd watch z8. sad for you guys but happy as hell for us on 2nd watch
Anonymous said...
I wanted the 1 on 6 off schedule...but they wouldn't listen.
1/10/2010 06:49:00 AM
Too funny, Anonymous! :p
I really hope the new schedule works out for you all and that you get more quality time with your families and the relaxation you probably all need.
Be safe out there.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eaf_1258270221
Great taser video!
WARNING my fellow officer. If you are working and getting a straight W2 and somehow a tax professional is getting you a ton of money back, he or she may be playing loose with the IRS rules. And if you get caught, guess who has to pay through the nose? It would be you.
Two years ago, H and R Block was sued my multiple clients because they were playing fast and loose with the rules and getting their clients a lot of money back. Once the IRS found out, they audited those clients and they had to pay through the nose, the ass and any other cavity the IRS could find.
1/10/2010 04:47:00 PM
I am a PO wife with an accounting degree and you are absolutely correct. It doesn't matter who prepares your taxes, ultimately you are responsible for the truthfulness of your tax return. Many of these tax services want your business so bad they will go into gray areas to get you the biggest refund. If you get audited, the burden is on you. If it seems too good to be true it probably is.
Anonymous said...
Thanks FOP or keeping us on the 10 hour days your the best.
FOP you suck
1/10/2010 12:59:00 PM
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!! THEY HAVE THE OFFICE 9-5 JOB, YOU THINK THEY GIVE A FLYING SHIT ABOUT ANY OF US> THINK AGAIN.
Maybe after an hour or two on the street, I'll meet whoever is on the previous watch who has my regular vehicle in the parking lot and switch. Make the notification and I'm on the way, gives the sergeant something to put on his log. I've always taken some pride in the care of my cars and motorcycles.
Stay safe, screw this rotation.
Phillip Goslawski C.P.A.
Certified Financial Services INC.
Willowbrook,IL
(630)323-8000
I use him for my personal and business. Used to work for the IRS.
I use a guy - Richard Allen in Palos Park. I used him when I was active and now that I am retired he does my taxes. I have also consulted (per hour) with him on financial issues. He is a CPA and an investment broker without being pushy at all. And... all these guys use computers, so don't shit yourself that they are Einstein. If you have a simple return use Turbo-tax.
Re taxes:
Turbo tax, anyone can do it.
6 & 3 is gone after this year so enjoy it while you got it.
4 & 2 will be citywide next year
All this crying that you ll be burning more time due with this schedule. We get over 100 hrs of time due from holidays alone.Just add a day every time ur weekends come and you ll have 4-and 3 for 3 straight weeks just using that holiday time due.
And if ur not a "DOG" u still get to keep bank the court time..
. Anonymous said...
ATTENTION!!! This may be old news, but I just found out that the SGT.'s don't have to burn. 1/2 hour when taking a baby furlough day, but we do. Under the 4-2 their baby furlough days are an entire day off. How the hell is that fair? The SGT.'s always have a "me too clause" when it comes to things we get, but I guess it doesn't go both ways. What BS!! The Sgt's only difference between us and them should be the pay and everthing else should be the same. They get a nice raise, better duty availability, an extra 45 mins a day and 25 working furlough days. The perks for 4-2 should be the same for all who are in it. FOP needs to fix this and grievences should be filed.
I am not a Sgt. but only a Detective. That being said, why would you complain about what the sergeants get. IT DOES NOT COME OUT OF YOUR POCKET. It would be a better idea to get a "me clause" like they do if you like the perk. You can also study hard and pass the sergeant's test or call your china man for the bump.
I am tired of people complaining about what other people get. Specially, when it is not detrimental to themselves.
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know if the 4 and 2 will some day be applied to all units in the dept?
1/10/2010 01:59:00 AM
I hope not! I enjoy my 5 day work week! (and NOOOOO, I DON'T work at headquarters). I do know about mid year 8 and 13 will convert to the 4 and 2.
Been doing this for a year now...that 0530 start is a motherfucker, and you NEVER get used to it!!!
Have fun staying at the desk in lockup for an extra half hour when your relief is still there...
And you got fucked on your furlough, when it got converted to hours..I wanted 10 hour days
TAXES:::
ED Galowitch..retired cop who used to do them on Northside, now lives in Las Vegas, NV.
Still doing my taxes and getting me the money, and charging me under $100.00
Here is his number: 1-866-735-2800
He has done my taxes for the last 12 years..he does great job.
Please..don't go to these copper hacks in the district, they are the worst..especially the goof in 014 (who used to work lockup on Third Watch) he charged crazy money and would want you to pick his lunch up on your dime too!! Fuck that douche..go to ED Galowitch..
Ask for his credentials and he will put you at ease. He is a credible guy.
Check the engine?! I must of missed that mechanics class in the academy!
Yes nimrod. Check the engine and see if it's still there. If you work on the southside it may be missing. If that's the case the car won't move. Better tell a supervisor it's missing or you may be on the hook for it. No mechanics class necessary.
I SURE HOPE THE FOP AND ARBITRATOR BENN REALIZE THAT EVERY UNIT SHOULD B GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THE 4-2 0R 10 HR DAY SCHEDULE.ITS NOT RIGHT THAT WE ALL ARE UNION MEMBERS AND SOME ARE STILL WORKING THE 6-2 SCHEDULE!ITS NOT RIGHT OR FAIR!STEP IT UP FOP!!!
Are you going to tell us our contract expired too?1/10/2010 11:25:00 AM
Yeah your contract expired, too. Oh and also your leadership sucks and your way understaffed.
you couldn't make a pimple on a firefighter's ass. Same old whining b.s. The only comparison between CPD and CFD is the mutts you work with on a daily basis. I don't carry a gun, don't try to distinguish fires.
#1 - don't thank the FOP, they wanted 6 and 3, the Dept picked 4 and 2 because people use more elective time up, #2 - why is your district doing vehicle selection first come first serve? Other places set up a regular rotation to make it fair. Lazy watch commanders by you?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Wait til you start standing around waitng on a car for hours, the city keeps trying to get more than 40hrs out of us. let us work 40hrs like normal people. Yeah 4-2 but, why 9hrs?, why not 5-3 with 8hr days?...
becasue thats less than 40 hrs a week 5-2 is 40 hrs a week
No More Wednesdays! Use to be 2 Wednesdays. Now just Mon,Tues,Thur,Fri, then Sat, Sun off and repeat! Much better.
Thanks FOP or keeping us on the 10 hour days your the best.
FOP you suck
1/10/2010 12:59:00 PM
Shut Up!! Bet you're one of those 020 3rd watch babies.....bitch bitch bitch all year long but amazingly you're still here working 10 hrs! Leave already!
4 and 2 will suck for the midnight officers, on 1st watch your first night off is wasted, so now you only have one day off.
The overlap benefits the p/o's not the city. You sit around waiting on a car, that is less time you have to deal with the b.s. on the street.
The 10 hour day is the best thing ever invented, to bad the fop and the city wouldn't listen to several proposals that would make the 10hr day work in patrol, but as usual they know best.
OT----BUT IMPORTANT
I just got off the phone w/Bill Cozzi. He is understandably depressed, so keep the cards and letters going to him.
He wants everyone who wrote or sent a card to him that he will write back--but he only has limited access to the typewriter in the library so he asks for your patience.
He said there was not even a Catholic Christmas mass, but plenty of Muslim chances to worship.
Make no mistake about it, when J-Fed screwed Bill over, he screwed us all. Please remember him in your prayers and drop him a line if you can.
Thanks.......
One of Bill's friends...
Anonymous said...
Need to give J-Fed credit, he did say he would do away with the 6 day work week. He did it in less than 2 years. I have 16 on and if we waited for FOP to do it I would still be waiting another 16 years.
1/10/2010 02:26:00 PM
Moron,
Mark Donahue called j-fed and had a face to face with him and stated, in effect, let's get rolling on this alternate work schedule thing. fortunately j-fed agreed and made it happen.
FOP had everything to do with this new work schedule. Donahue got j-fed to commit to making it happen in 2010. j-fed, to his credit, kept his word on that one.
But believe this, FOP worked very hard to make this happen. I saw first hand some of the hard work that FOP put into this over a bunch of years.
OT--re: Bill Cozzi....
Sorry, accidentally posted that last post--
Should have read......
Bill wants everyone who wrote to him or sent a card to know that he is in the process of writing everyone back....
--sorry about that.
To the whiner screaming "print my comments"
Try it without calling us and our readers all sorts of names and we'll publish it. We don't owe you a forum to belittle our readers.
You want to address manpower issues, go right ahead, but when you start with the "all you assholes...and the like, go fuck yourself.
Anonymous said...
I love it. No more 6-2 with every 28day change of watch schedule. Yes kid i said every 28 days. We changed watches too. Now get some time on the job and quit your whining.
The REVOLVER POLICE!
1/10/2010 01:26:00 AM
Yes, we changed watches every 28 days, and the office and desk crews made out new worksheets and did it with a typewriter and got it done every 4 weeks. And on top of that, before the contract there were a frequent DOG changes if you pissed the captain off or if he felt like it.
Anonymous said...
major cluster fuck already--- not enough cars and dispatchers lost in outer space.....
1/10/2010 03:10:00 AM
Good. My lack of productivity will be lost in the confusion.
Anonymous said...
Wait til you start standing around waitng on a car for hours, the city keeps trying to get more than 40hrs out of us. let us work 40hrs like normal people. Yeah 4-2 but, why 9hrs?, why not 5-3 with 8hr days?...
1/10/2010 11:02:00 AM
Hey dipshit, under the old, original system of days off no one worked more than 40 hours per week.
"6 & 3 is better! You'll be pissing and moaning about 4 & 2 very shortly!"
Your a complete stooge!!!
Wow im going to love this schedule. TAlked to a friend that had it in a piloted district. Says after working this new schedule he feels better rested and has more energy.
For the guys saying check the fluids. Yes I know the city will put the blame on you. But for defense of a po; common I must of missed the class of oil changing 101 the city provided for us. The city cant do nothing to you. BTW i do take care of my beat car fluids in all but dont freak out guys i think it will be a two or three car rotation. Hopefully the other watches take care of the car in the rotations. But there are always a few crybabies that half to drive a certain car us they piss n moan. Be safe out there
Anonymous said...
you couldn't make a pimple on a firefighter's ass. Same old whining b.s. The only comparison between CPD and CFD is the mutts you work with on a daily basis. I don't carry a gun, don't try to distinguish fires.
1/10/2010 07:51:00 PM
"distinguish fires" only a fireman can be that stupid.
May the family and friends of (Ret) CPD Detective William Higgins A/2/VC be comforted in their loss.
Rest In Peace "Uncle Higgy"...You were like family to us. We love and miss you. Thank you for your service.
OT: just sent $50.00 to David Hoffman's campaign after reading Kass's article. Hope if he loses the senate race, he can use the money to run for Mayor.
Darn, I thought this was two on-four off. Oh, well.
Anonymous said...
I dont wanna give up my 6 and 3! I took and extra day off and I feel like I've been off for a week! 6-3 s the way to go
1/10/2010 10:41:00 AM
So you drop a slip and get 4 off,which feels like a week according to you. So based on that logic your working 6 days must feel like a week and a half. Dumb ass.
Anonymous said...
I SURE HOPE THE FOP AND ARBITRATOR BENN REALIZE THAT EVERY UNIT SHOULD B GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THE 4-2 0R 10 HR DAY SCHEDULE.ITS NOT RIGHT THAT WE ALL ARE UNION MEMBERS AND SOME ARE STILL WORKING THE 6-2 SCHEDULE!ITS NOT RIGHT OR FAIR!STEP IT UP FOP!!!
And I sure wish I could "bid" into some of those clouted units!!! We are all union members, yes, and it is a shame that I can't bid into any unit I want to!!
ok anybody have the beat tag thing figured out yet? What do the 3rd and 1st watch desk crew do between 2000 and 2230 hours? they over lap
The 3rd watch desk, and early cars overlap. Early 3rd watch beat cars start at 1400, midnights at 2100. This is supposed to ease backlogs when the highest amount of call occur.
When you take the car, you are responsible for inspecting it and verifying that all damage is accounted for.
The GO has always said that the vehicle operator is responsible for checking the fluids.
Don't know how to check oil? Have your mechanic check your tire pressures??
What are you going to say if they ask for receipts????
"Fireman show up for a 24 hour shift. Polish the rig and cook. Big difference between fire and police.
1/10/2010 04:54:00 PM"
Got that right. Nobody wakes up in the morning w/the intent to kill a fireman. RIP Valadez
The only comparison between CPD and CFD is the mutts you work with on a daily basis. I don't carry a gun, don't try to distinguish fires.
1/10/2010 07:51:00 PM
"distinguish fires" only a fireman can be that stupid.
This is the kind of bullshit that keeps us at each others throats and keeps assholes Like Daley and the bootlicking lackey aldermen in power.
Daley will stay in power unless we get our collective heads out of our asses, put aside our differences and band together. We can have a new mayor in a little over a year.
Police Fire EMS who cares, we all work for the same old sociopathic megalomanic dwarf.
Let's grow up.
Anonymous said...
Man, I already feel more rested and I haven't even started it yet. Its just nice to know that there will be no more 6 day weeks!
1/10/2010 12:14:00 AM
You and me both! I FEEL LIKE A FUCKIN FIREMAN.
1/10/2010 02:43:00 PM
Hey-hey-hey.....we read this blog too!!! LOL
Anonymous said...
OT
RIP:
Det. William D. Higgins , 58
Retired Detective A/2 VC
9 Jan 2010
one of the best
m tully
1/10/2010 08:29:00 AM
What happened to him? I had not heard that one. Is that the same Higgins that use to work the Homicide desk? If this Marti Tully, happy retirement and boy do we miss people like you on this job!
Anonymous said...
I SURE HOPE THE FOP AND ARBITRATOR BENN REALIZE THAT EVERY UNIT SHOULD B GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THE 4-2 0R 10 HR DAY SCHEDULE.ITS NOT RIGHT THAT WE ALL ARE UNION MEMBERS AND SOME ARE STILL WORKING THE 6-2 SCHEDULE!ITS NOT RIGHT OR FAIR!STEP IT UP FOP!!!
1/10/2010 07:42:00 PM
Hey you f'n idiot. If you're in a unit that isn't working the 4-2 or 10 hours day.... THEN BID THE FUCK OUT. You must have a cushy spot somewhere cause those are the only ones left without the new schedules. Nobody is going to cry for you and your sweet gig. Come back to any of the 25 districts, we sure could use ya.
Hey tough guy since you're so smart, email your better work schedule to SCC considering all the factors involved and publish it on here so we can see how smart you think you are. Please bless us with your intellect. Just another loud mouth know it all with nothing to back it up.
1/10/2010 08:59:00 AM
oh I dunno how about buying enough cars?
Nelson Muntz said...
Ta-Da!!!! after working 6 in a row for 20+ years in the GHETTO!!!(and his momma cried and so am I happy 75th Elvis! )I will love this 4 and 2. Many thanks FOP and superintendent Weis.
Off topic. While I am sick of reading all the complaining from the 17th district that is what this blog is for,blowing off steam.I also would like to say to all the officers who think they are overworked and underpaid and the "real police" because they work in 7(hell on earth) 15,3,6, ect, at some point that is your choice. You are no better than any other complainer and we all have many reasons to complain. Personally I like working in busy districts because the work day passes quickly not because it reassures me of my worth. I also like working the street but have no problem with the officers who work the desk. They are needed and that is a job I am ill suited for. Me telling John Q Johnson that the next time he bothers me for BS I will take his phone and beat him with it, would not fly with the desk Sgt.
I own 2 homes have 2 28 day furloughs,plenty of ot, tons of great stories and a pension awaiting me. You are as happy as you want to be in this life. Stay frosty.
1/10/2010 09:19:00 AM
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Last time I checked Nelson Muntz, you were in the fourth grade. I mean really, are we supposed to believe that you are some super-powered grade schooler that has magical police powers? Yeah right. That I would like to see!
Still, your observations and final comment i would have to agree with. Aquaman couldn't have said it better himself!
"I just found out that the SGT.'s don't have to burn 1/2 hour when taking a baby furlough day, but we do. Under the 4-2 their baby furlough days are an entire day off. How the hell is that fair?"
We get the extra perks for putting up with your whiney ass so STFU!
To THE REVOLVER POLICE:
Back before the 28 day periods, when the year consisted of 12 months, the watches changed on the 1st of every month. When new on the job most people tried to take a furlough in a 31 day month that was one of their midnights. You only got 20 days of furlough, but with days off and time due you could take the entire month. I used to have no trouble getting a January furlough. Sucked big time.
An old Sargeant I knew told me that when he came on the job they worked 6 days on and 1 day off. When I told him that he probably did not want to take that one day off he only smiled. I wonder why?
"I am tired of people complaining about what other people get. Specially, when it is not detrimental to themselves."
Thank You Bobbie Steele!!
Anonymous said...
you couldn't make a pimple on a firefighter's ass. Same old whining b.s. The only comparison between CPD and CFD is the mutts you work with on a daily basis. I don't carry a gun, don't try to distinguish fires.
1/10/2010 07:51:00 PM
"distinguish fires" only a fireman can be that stupid.
1/10/2010 09:21:00 PM
Ha Ha! You only need a GED to roll on one of those ambulance assist trucks or engines.
I just thank the lord I have a job.4-2 will be better guys,stay safe out there.
Anonymous said...
I SURE HOPE THE FOP AND ARBITRATOR BENN REALIZE THAT EVERY UNIT SHOULD B GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THE 4-2 0R 10 HR DAY SCHEDULE.ITS NOT RIGHT THAT WE ALL ARE UNION MEMBERS AND SOME ARE STILL WORKING THE 6-2 SCHEDULE!ITS NOT RIGHT OR FAIR!STEP IT UP FOP!!!
1/10/2010 07:42:00 PM
Then go back to patrol, baby... But, with all the whining, I'd guess you weren't able to handle it in the first place.
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
Got a guy...Jim Marino (he's a general practice lawyer)...5501 N Cumberland...773-775-0707. If you don't have any write-offs, he may not be able to help you too much more than your $1300 or so, but if you have deductions, you'll be happy.
"Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Wait til you start standing around waitng on a car for hours, the city keeps trying to get more than 40hrs out of us. let us work 40hrs like normal people. Yeah 4-2 but, why 9hrs?, why not 5-3 with 8hr days?...
becasue thats less than 40 hrs a week 5-2 is 40 hrs a week"
Hey nitwit. 4-2 work week IS a 5 day work week. There are 7 days in a week. Your 1st day back is your 5th day out of 7. So really 9 X 5 IS 45 hour work week. A 40 hour work week would be 5 days X 8 hours.
Biggest problem is you have people crying about how they want Their car and it's unfair that cars are given out first come first server. News flash morons these are department vehicles not your own personal vehicle so quit crying and take what is given to you. If you want that gay Tahoe get to work nice and early you losers.
I gotta take issue with this...correct, it's not my car BUT, when I'm in that car every day, and I make sure not to eat in it, spill in it, get it washed when it needs it, fill it w/ gas, make sure the fluids are up to levels, and not trash the thing, and the other people on the other 2 watches who use it also feel the same way about taking care of the car that we have to ride in for hours at a time, yeah, we want "our" car. I hate when I have to get in a car and clean out someone else's coffee cups, food wrappers/bags, or have to deal with cigarette butts/ashes, sticky floors, smells of an ungodly nature, greasy steering wheels, or the inside of windshields that have more dirt on them than the outside, not to mention when the previous watch leaves the car on "E" for you too. Just wait til you forget something in a car (sunglasses, flashlight, etc...) and you can't track it down.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I love it. No more 6-2 with every 28day change of watch schedule. Yes kid i said every 28 days. We changed watches too. Now get some time on the job and quit your whining.
The REVOLVER POLICE!
1/10/2010 01:26:00 AM
When they stopped rotating they hurt this job. Best way to learn a district was to see it on all three watches plus the watch parties.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
you couldn't make a pimple on a firefighter's ass. Same old whining b.s. The only comparison between CPD and CFD is the mutts you work with on a daily basis. I don't carry a gun, don't try to distinguish fires.
1/10/2010 07:51:00 PM
Hey Water Waster, how come we go out and look for criminals? You guys ever go out and look for fires? No you are too busy cooking dinner and having fun at your pajama party so fuck you and get off our fucking blog.
Firemen are these biggest SCABS in the world the brag about their great union then undercut all the trades. A pimple on your as fuck you we may complain but at least we never walked out on the City.
You guys do not deal with animals we deal with them "fire refused" we can not.
you couldn't make a pimple on a firefighter's ass. Same old whining b.s. The only comparison between CPD and CFD is the mutts you work with on a daily basis. I don't carry a gun, don't try to distinguish fires.
Are you kidding? I could walk in the firehouse tomorrow and do your job, you can't say the same....
everyone in units that do not have a new schedule should email FOP and demand that they represent all bargaining members equally!!!!! Please someone be the first to file that grievence!!!!! This is complete bullshit.
Anonymous said...
4 and 2 will suck for the midnight officers, on 1st watch your first night off is wasted, so now you only have one day off.
The overlap benefits the p/o's not the city. You sit around waiting on a car, that is less time you have to deal with the b.s. on the street.
The 10 hour day is the best thing ever invented, to bad the fop and the city wouldn't listen to several proposals that would make the 10hr day work in patrol, but as usual they know best.
1/10/2010 08:40:00 PM
Some people will complain even if they are being hung with a new rope.
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
he probably has kids and you don't
you couldn't make a pimple on a firefighter's ass. Same old whining b.s. The only comparison between CPD and CFD is the mutts you work with on a daily basis. I don't carry a gun, don't try to distinguish fires.
1/10/2010 07:51:00 PM
"distiguish fires"?????? i thought you extinguish fires. or does this guy just like to get to know them ?
"Hire a CPA, who has something to lose and can give you tax planning. You get what you pay for. Others that get 3 to 4 times probably don't sleep good at night."
A CPA is not a tax specialist. Believe it or not, H & R Block, though expensive, will milk the return for all it's worth. They have software that the FEDs use. It's a matter of red flags on your return. How much you get back depends on your status. Most "tax guys" don't take your deductions to the limit- I was a tax guy for 8 years and I go to H&R Block, they got me and my wife back $10,000 for the past three years. I heard they were the ones who also got us 4 and 2's!
You and me both! I FEEL LIKE A FUCKIN FIREMAN.
1/10/2010 02:43:00 PM
Hey-hey-hey.....we read this blog too!!! LOL
1/10/2010 11:13:00 PM
Note to self: Post more fireman jokes to piss off firemen reading this blog.
Q.How can you tell when a Chicago Fireman is dead? A. The remote control slips from his hand.
I like my six in a row. I work one part-timer & have the next six off.
Retired.
I can't stand the car issue. I spend more time checking damage because don't know what was reported and what was blown off. When you have a regular car it's easier to keep track of this. Also having to clean out the shit that is left behind as were your regular car everyone working it keeps it clean and maintained. Oh by the way Jody the Tahoes suck no traction control. We only went with them because that is all the FBI uses.
Anonymous said...
firefighter's...try to distinguish fires.
1/10/2010 07:51:00 PM
Inferno; conflagration; blaze; etc
4-2, 6-3, what ever ! The fucken dogs in 22 3rd watch on the late cars will still NOT go to their jobs, NOT assist,go down on ghost stops to avoid a job on their own beat and still take two personals 1to chat in the station the other to eat. Then they will take their lunch on the end or hour before check off.
Wait til you start standing around waitng on a car for hours, the city keeps trying to get more than 40hrs out of us. let us work 40hrs like normal people. Yeah 4-2 but, why 9hrs?, why not 5-3 with 8hr days?...
1/10/2010 11:02:00 AM
Because 5-3 is eight days asshat.
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
++++++
Are you single or married with no kids? Working several jobs? Living in an apartment instead of a house? House, kids, etc. give tax deductions. (I know, not fair to singles, but that's the tax law.) Extra jobs = tax bracket differences. Check your withholding. Are you in deferred comp? That's pretax and lowers your taxable income. Besides - getting $ back at the end of the year means you've given the govt an interest-free loan for the 12 previous months.
Thanks FOP or keeping us on the 10 hour days your the best.
FOP you suck
1/10/2010 12:59:00 PM
Yeah FOP.
Thanks for saving me the cost of driving to work 52 extra days a year. That sucks too that I'm off those days too. The extra two hours at work eats into my beatoff time and my soaps(too fucking cheap to buy a DVR). How about a real schedule. I propose, since we have to work 2080hrs a year... and there is 13 periods a year with 28 days contained in each period(160hrs per 28days). That we work 5.7 hours a day every day. This way I can drive to work everyday, wasting as much gas as possible. Maximize my beatoff time and side job potential(don't ask it makes sense in my hamster wheel driven brain). The best perk of all is I can bitch about being at work everyday.
Signed
Disenchanted with 8yrs on in 017.
who think they are overworked and underpaid and the "real police" because they work in 7(hell on earth) 15,3,6, ect, at some point that is your choice.
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at some point it ISN'T "your" choice. Because there are no bid spots open in other, "better" districts.
w/ the 6-3 you still end up working less hours than the 4-2 due the math, and you end up with 3 more days day off than the 4-2 in a calender year. your off on the weekends, pratically every other week and find yourself burning less time for family. the 4-2 does not, you will not see a weekend until your 6 week. which is what your mayor wants, beacause for you, that means you have to burn those precious comp time hours. the mayor always has a reason for his maddnessss. to save money. the key to working the 6 day is that extra day off.
Anonymous said...
ATTENTION!!! This may be old news, but I just found out that the SGT.'s don't have to burn. 1/2 hour when taking a baby furlough day, but we do. Under the 4-2 their baby furlough days are an entire day off. How the hell is that fair? The SGT.'s always have a "me too clause" when it comes to things we get, but I guess it doesn't go both ways. What BS!! The Sgt's only difference between us and them should be the pay and everthing else should be the same. They get a nice raise, better duty availability, an extra 45 mins a day and 25 working furlough days. The perks for 4-2 should be the same for all who are in it. FOP needs to fix this and grievences should be filed.
1/10/2010 03:27:00 PM
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ATTENTION!!!
Quit your bitchin' and study harder!
Signed, a member of the last legit Sgt test. The no-merit test of 1993.
The 10 hr schedule is better, you actually forget what went on before you went on your days off. The city really gets over on the 4-2. Just watch the medical grow on the weekends and the large number of officers taking cu on the weekends because of the two days off EVERY week. Where is the time for family? Wasn't that a question on the FOP webwsite? FOP sold us out!!!!!!!!
4 and 2 will suck for the midnight officers, on 1st watch your first night off is wasted, so now you only have one day off.
1/10/2010 08:40:00 PM
ok then get off midnights. If you cant that only means you have no time on the job. Stop crying, get some time on the job and wait your turn like the rest of us had to.
WHOS THE IDIOT THAT IS TELLING OFFICERS TO CHECK THEIR OWN OIL?
HEY NUMB NUTT!!! IF YOU LOOK AT THE OIL GUAGE JUST LIKE THE GAS AND TEMPERATURE GUAGES, IT WILL TELL YOU IF YOUR LOW, EMPTY OR HAVE A PROBLEM!!!
THE IDIOT GUAGES WILL LIGHT UP!!!!!!
Waaaaa o won lotto but now I'm in a higher tax bracket booooo hooooo
To the 10 Jan 4:21 pm poster:
You hit the nail right on the head.The house mouses and thinktank members from headquarters have absolutely no clue how things operate at the watch/district level. How could you possibly think it's logical to overlap the 3rd and 1st watch desk and lockup crews by 2 hours! Newsflash to these policy writers there is only one desk and one lockup so why double staff them for 2 hours? If you have 2 desk sgt.'s during this ridiculous overlap then which desk sgt is actually in charge the 3rd watch sgt or the 1 st watch sgt.? A little common sense would have gone a long way here. Then again common sense is a very scarce commodity at headquarters.
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ATTENTION!!! This may be old news, but I just found out that the SGT.'s don't have to burn. 1/2 hour when taking a baby furlough day, but we do. Under the 4-2 their baby furlough days are an entire day off. How the hell is that fair? . . . FOP needs to fix this and grievances should be filed
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YOU DUMB ASS!
This is what the FOP negotiated for you.. You don't like it .. become a sergeant.
The way this will work best for districts is simple, they must plan on using the half hour extra to have roll call and radio and car assignment etc.
Then the oncoming watch goes to the ramp or parking lot and makes face to face relief with the watch coming off, the cars don't need to be down more than a minute.
No wasted time, no cluster fuck overlap, no cars down, no need to even shut them off, no entire roll call down for 30-45 minutes. Result is more cars up for longer.
Think of a NASCAR tire change, except it is a driver change. In theory at least.
Stop complaining MR. 6-3. Most non police work a 5 on 2 day off schedule
Guys, remember, even though you won't drive the same car every day anymore... you've GOT to check oil and fluids on the cars when you gas up. Now more than ever before.
General orders require it and if you blow the engine, it's on YOU. And motor maintenance will hang you out to dry in about half a heartbeat. CHECK the OIL, especially in the trucks. They burn through oil almost as fast as they burn through gas.
1/10/2010 12:31:00 AM
While all of this is true, remember you are getting paid by the HOUR, not the job. If your extra 1/2 hour a day is spent caring for your 'vehicle of the day', so be it. See, just make it work for you :)
I need a good tax guy. The guy I have used the past 3 years has only gotten me back 1300-1600 on average. Wtf? I hear others getting 3 to 4 times that amount... what gives?
1/10/2010 12:59:00 AM
I get back about 6K a year. I really should change things, but look at your exemptions. The refund really shouldn't be used as a savings account though; you let the Gvt have free use of your money.
Each week, I want to show up twice to work 20 hours straight with 128 hours off.
ok anybody have the beat tag thing figured out yet? What do the 3rd and 1st watch desk crew do between 2000 and 2230 hours? they over lap
1/10/2010 04:21:00 PM
Yah, midnights has their own tags
with a 'R' at the end. Anyone know why "R"???
Hey nitwit. 4-2 work week IS a 5 day work week. There are 7 days in a week. Your 1st day back is your 5th day out of 7. So really 9 X 5 IS 45 hour work week. A 40 hour work week would be 5 days X 8 hours.
1/11/2010 01:13:00 AM
Um, yes, but you are WORKING 8.5 hours, not 9, so it is a 42 1/2 hour week, not 45 hour week.
everyone in units that do not have a new schedule should email FOP and demand that they represent all bargaining members equally!!!!! Please someone be the first to file that grievence!!!!! This is complete bullshit.
1/11/2010 03:28:00 AM
How about you file that "grievance" first? Why must you rely on others??
Heard the airports and mass trasit bosses want it,along with all the officers but FLOP is stonewalling it what say you mark? Looks also like greg bella is going to run for flop president and is telling people that MIKE SHIELDS will not run,come on mike sweep it and reform our union thanks mike1
1/10/2010 09:27:00 AM
Mike Shields has enough to deal with at the pension fund. It's not reformed yet......go get em Mikey!
Yah, midnights has their own tags
with a 'R' at the end. Anyone know why "R"???
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R for "retarded"?
Anonymous said...
Heard the airports and mass trasit bosses want it,along with all the officers but FLOP is stonewalling it what say you mark? Looks also like greg bella is going to run for flop president and is telling people that MIKE SHIELDS will not run,come on mike sweep it and reform our union thanks mike1
1/10/2010 09:27:00 AM
Mike Shields has enough to deal with at the pension fund. It's not reformed yet......go get em Mikey!
1/11/2010 08:42:00 PM
The entire membership of the FOP loses if Mike Shields doesn't run. Mike, please run. Its there for the asking. You will win in a landslide.
Unit's 377 and 477 (Evidence Technicians) are filing a mass grievance for being left out of the 4-2 work schedule, or the ten hour schedule like Area 2 Det. Sorry FOP, but thanks for fucking us out of the deal. And a class of five starting with about 8 retiring, real smart. One job at a time, with a long wait for an ET from now on.
WHOS THE IDIOT THAT IS TELLING OFFICERS TO CHECK THEIR OWN OIL?
HEY NUMB NUTT!!! IF YOU LOOK AT THE OIL GUAGE JUST LIKE THE GAS AND TEMPERATURE GUAGES, IT WILL TELL YOU IF YOUR LOW, EMPTY OR HAVE A PROBLEM!!!
THE IDIOT GUAGES WILL LIGHT UP!!!!!!
1/11/2010 12:38:00 PM
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Your logic is faulty, based on a bad premise. The idiot lights do NOT always read true. And, shockingly, sometimes those dash lights simply burn out.
And, guess what? You're STILL liable for fluid levels, whether they indicated correctly or not.
Anonymous said...
everyone in units that do not have a new schedule should email FOP and demand that they represent all bargaining members equally!!!!! Please someone be the first to file that grievence!!!!! This is complete bullshit.
1/11/2010 03:28:00 AM
How about you file that "grievance" first? Why must you rely on others??
1/11/2010 08:26:00 PM
And if someone files this grievance, what article of the contract will you cite has been violated?
Have any of you people screaming so loudly now gone to any of the General Meetings (FOP) where it was explained why some units were not given the 4-2 by the CITY and what the FOP is doing to include all units citywide in one form or another of alternate work schedule?
But why would anyone want to complicate the issue with facts? Better to rant on a blog and show your ignorance. ("this is complete bullshit!") Very eloquent. Ignorant too but what the hell, blame everything on FOP, it is easy. And never ever give the FOP any credit.
Hope the new schedule works out for all. Back in the day we did 6 & 2 for 30 + years,rotating for most of those...but the pension is great fellas , get out A.S.A.P. and enjoy life. Go Fishing.......God Bless and Protect our men in Blue,The Finest,The CPD.
You and me both! I FEEL LIKE A FUCKIN FIREMAN.
1/10/2010 02:43:00 PM
Hey-hey-hey.....we read this blog too!!! LOL
1/10/2010 11:13:00 PM
Note to self: Post more fireman jokes to piss off firemen reading this blog.
Q.How can you tell when a Chicago Fireman is dead? A. The remote control slips from his hand.
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I love it!! Yes definately post more! Can I use that one tomorrow? Sorry its gonna take more than that to piss me off....we all have the same job...policeman, fireman....garbagemen...Same circus just different clowns.... BTW, had a chief ask us last month if we had any "disrespectant" to spray on something....we are still talking about that one....Be safe guys!
One job at a time, with a long wait for an ET from now on.
1/11/2010 10:40:00 PM
You're fucking hilarious ET! You have to go to no jobs a day to do less! HAHAHA, from now on!!!! POST OF THE YEAR!
Unit's 377 and 477 (Evidence Technicians) are filing a mass grievance for being left out of the 4-2 work schedule, or the ten hour schedule like Area 2 Det. Sorry FOP, but thanks for fucking us out of the deal. And a class of five starting with about 8 retiring, real smart. One job at a time, with a long wait for an ET from now on.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Give up the D2 pay and come back to patrol if you want it so bad...Bitch!
We've gained the 4-3 in 024, and are also losing a great watch commander.
WHOS THE IDIOT THAT IS TELLING OFFICERS TO CHECK THEIR OWN OIL?
HEY NUMB NUTT!!! IF YOU LOOK AT THE OIL GUAGE JUST LIKE THE GAS AND TEMPERATURE GUAGES, IT WILL TELL YOU IF YOUR LOW, EMPTY OR HAVE A PROBLEM!!!
THE IDIOT GUAGES WILL LIGHT UP!!!!!!
1/11/2010 12:38:00 PM
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The word you want is GAUGE, not guage. And you're, not 'your'.
If only there were an idiot light for people who bitch, but can't spell.
Yours would light up, for sure.
I Wonder who is the clout moron boss that switched the times all around so a whole 1st watch can sit around for s couple of hours with mo cars. I mean really nice move genius!
All you had to do was move all start times up a 1/2 hour. And they all could do face to face relief at the radio room. But no let's start 1st watch 2 hours early and have color coded car sheets. And still have no cars till 3rd watch gets off. JACKASS!!!!! Perfect example of a clout boss in over his/her head!
To the IDIOT that said you dont need to check the oil on these cars- did you ever look at the sign at the pumps? Driver is responsible, that is YOU.Read the GO's , if an inspector sees you at the pumps and you dont check it you can be gigged. ALSO do you really trust the guages in these cars? nothing else works properly so why should they?
"To the IDIOT that said you dont need to check the oil on these cars- did you ever look at the sign at the pumps? Driver is responsible, that is YOU."
Sorry but I did check everything. I know nothing about cars and wasn't trained in anything so..... I AM NOT liable. It's that simple. There can be sign posted that "You are an idiot!" - are you?
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