The Beginning of the End
Chicago's longstanding ban on handguns within city limits will go before the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday, in a case that will have serious legal ramifications nationwide.
Handguns have been outlawed in Chicago for 28 years. But in 2008, in District of Columbia v. Heller, the Court reversed a handgun ban in Washington, D.C., emboldening gun-rights activists to challenge the Chicago law. Suburban Oak Park, which has even stronger gun legislation, is also involved in the lawsuit.
A number of local media outlets are still quoting Daley's inanities about banning guns reduces violence, somehow missing the fact that in the 48 states with concealed carry or shall-issue laws experienced double-digit reductions in violent crime and even bigger drops in property crime. Gun laws only affect the law abiding and do nothing to stop a criminal who is already intent on breaking the law.
A ruling should be handed down around June.
A ruling should be handed down around June.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
42 Comments:
"A ruling should be handed down around June".
This bit of good news should coincide nicely with the news of us getting a decent contract and retroactive pay.
What's better news is that this combination may be the catalyst to Shortshanks' long overdue cardiac arrest.
From what I can decipher from Daley and our semi-literate media, the core of the City arguement seems to be that the Constitution of the United States only applies in Federal Territory like D.C., not in Chicago.
Didn't we have a 'discussion' with 11 southern states over that?
I saw Daley talking about reasonable gun laws should be the law of the land on tonight's news. Reasonable doesn't mean total ban you scrotum.
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The 1st Amendment stands due to the 2nd Amendment. Without the private ownership of guns, the Bill of Rights is just paper.
Free citizens own guns, subjects/peasants are unarmed.
Let everyone own a gun who is legal!
HEAVY PUNISHMENT FOR ILLEGAL GUNS!
Anonymous said...
"I just want to reiterate that I had nothing to do with the plight of William Cozzi."
Superintendent Jody Weis
3/01/2010 12:23:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Food for thought,
How about Bobby Lopez showing up and ironing out his differences with J-Fed in front of all of us?
No holds barred, truth be told cage match.
Bobby,
You have nothing to lose now. You were sandbagged and ambushed. Utilize the advantage and strike now before it is too late.
There is nothing like having an audience rooting you on either.
3/01/2010 06:00:00 PM
if i lose dis one along wit da'lympics it might just give me a grabber...
dere i go agin wit *da'lympics*
*dick* mayor of shitcago,and common criminal.
Gun laws only affect the law abiding and do nothing to stop a criminal who is already intent on breaking the law.
Well, DUH. But it's not about gun control at all. It is and always has been about controlling people.Cry us a river shortshanks, the Constitution will prevail.
mr kersey, your table is ready.... most people who want a gun already have one in their home and could care less about the city of chicago's law which bans ownership of handguns which were not registered prior to 1980------
Daley you will lose again.
Little by little the momentum
is going against you.
We the People do believe in
Truth, Justice and the American way
Just Sayin, because i can!
And if it wasn't cuss free week here in California.
I would say FUCK YOU Daley!!!!!
Free Cozzi*****
Be Safe*
NeverForget.
Hey SCC, I heard a rumor that Master's resume was being padded and recorded in E-Learning with an eye towards his assumption of the mantle of Superintendent. Have you heard anything along those lines?
some people will never get it. criminals do not follow the law and will get their hands on guns anyway...its only hurting the good guys
its about guns but with Daley not only does he hate guns (with a 15 man security detail at sgts pay) but he gets to have good citizen pay to register their guns and they just raised the fees.
did anyone read j-fed's quote in todays suntimes (tues 02march). Police Supt. Jody Weis added, “Every time there’s a domestic disturbance, we [will] have to assume there’s a gun.” weis said this in response to the supreme possibly overturning chicago's handgun ban. hhmmmmm i guess a real street cop would know that you handle every call like there's a gun there or could be there
All I have to say is, you'd be surprised of the number of people that actually do own guns. And I'm talking about law-abiding citizens.
Daley, get with it.
Don't be surprised if the Supreme Court gives a obfuscated mixed ruling. Sort of like about abortion. On the one hand the wise justices will say "yes indeed you certainly have the right to have a firearm for your personal protection but it must be weighed against the interests of the state. A state if they choose to can make reasonable (they always love that word that can mean so many things to so many different people) regulations". There you have it. So don't expect major changes anytime soon.
Don't worry, they just make owning a handgun a pain in the ass. You'll have to register it, you'll have to have a city approved storage container, and it must be stored broken down and unloaded.
Does anyone know of a case where anyone went to jail on just the handgun ordinance? I'm not talking about with a UUW or no FOID card, just the ordinance. Even the old registration ordinance put no one in jail.
Have the required FOID card and f**k 42 extra short. You may loose the gun but not your life, and there will be no jail.
God Bless Mr. McDonald.
Anonymous said...
its about guns but with Daley not only does he hate guns (with a 15 man security detail at sgts pay) but he gets to have good citizen pay to register their guns and they just raised the fees.
3/02/2010 04:43:00 AM
They raised the fees?!? TO WHAT?!
my guess is that the SCOTUS will strike down the city's ban on handguns...then shortshanks and his band of fools will pass regs re: registration, security, etc.; if those are onerous (likely to be so), then folks wil have to take him to court again....why not just vote this clown out?
lets not forget the HAYWORTH ruling in brief that states the City of Chicago CANNOT supersede the the law and/or the higher Government regulating agency(in this case the State of Illinois) in the possession and/or carrying of a firearm in the course of job related functions.
A BIG FUCK YOU DALEY AND WEIS from all of us in the Security Industry.
Ive had my ARSENAL for 25+ years. you want it? Id be happy to give it to you. BULLETS FIRST you stuttering jagoff.And Weis......man Im not EVEN going there. Waste of DNA.
Thank you for your time.
Remember,Gun Control is the Ability to hit your target.
Don't worry, they just make owning a handgun a pain in the ass. You'll have to register it, you'll have to have a city approved storage container, and it must be stored broken down and unloaded
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D.C. tried that and it didn't work. They also tried to ban semi-automatics so citizens could only have revolvers but that also back fired.
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Hey Obama...you do lie.
Ben Franklin, who today would be thought of as a fanatic once said " Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. A republic is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." If the second Amendment is only there to protect the national guard the fourth Amendment is only there to protect the governors mansion.
First, I would like to know if our past superintendents who spoke out against retired concealed carry and refused to allow the ranges to certify the retired officers, now carry concealed ? What say you Cline, Hillard and others? Do you carry concealed? Where do you go to qualify annually? Just hypocrites all
Hey SCC,
Haven't you left a bit of info out of the blog? Otis McDonald, who is the face of the lawsuit, is a "liberal South Side Democrat". Surely, a liberal AND a Democrat can't be behind such a monumental lawsuit. I think we're owed an apology.
LOL
We all need to join the NRA!! It's only $35 a year and it's a very important cause for the honest Americans. Go to NRA.org and join! Every police officer should be a member.
I reside in the city of Chicago. I always have had a handgun in my home. I ended up inheriting guns from deceased relatives and in- laws. My mom even gave me my dad's
only pistol, a .25 cal. Colt. That was 35 yrs ago. I recieved some weapons exposure while in service. I could field strip a .45 cal. but not now. I want to go to the range and practice but I have a special needs child so my time is not my own. I suppose if the ban is lifted I would finally get a Glock17. Around 1982 my cousin and I would briefly shoot my grandfathers .22 Erma-Werke mauser rifle (traded to FOID holder) at garbage can lids from the back porch of the 6 flat under the "L" in district 02. Thinking back, no officers ever responded. Yes, it was stupid. I have not fired any weapons in the city since that time. If the ban is overturned Chicago could become much safer. I'm from an old police family and the rule is: assume there could be a weapon on every call.
J feds hat was a little crooked today at headquarters star ceremony. As my retired Dad (CPD) would say " A total goof."
Join the NRA, they also provide an insurance benefit to Police Officers injured or killed in the line of duty. Plus insurance for your firearms up to a certain amount.
We all need to join the NRA!! It's only $35 a year and it's a very important cause for the honest Americans. Go to NRA.org and join! Every police officer should be a member
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I did. They call you six times a week asking for money.
FULL DISCLOSURE: I am veteran CPD nearing retirement. I have owned guns, illegally, in Chicago for many years. My decision. I will leave Cook County and already have a home to which I will retire. Guns are legal there. For me it is win/win. I will break any law that affects my God-given rights, and will continue to do so. I'm a "cold dead fingers" kind of guy.
So, if this gun challenge passes, There wont be any gun turn ins for the $50 gift cards anymore?
Can't wait to take my $400 retro check and open gun stores in Mt. Greenwood and Englewood!
Maybe now Superintendent Weis, who always claims he is for the police officers, will embrace retired concealed carry and open the department ranges for qualification? Weis as a retired federal agent is eligible for retired concealed carry.He should come out now and make a statement either for or against. Then, lets see what he does when he finally retires? Does he have the guts??
"So, if this gun challenge passes, There wont be any gun turn ins for the $50 gift cards anymore?
3/03/2010 02:40:00 AM"
sort of.
they'll be called 'garage sales'.
Please get involved!
don't wait for the ruling to come back in our favor.
there's more work to be done.
ISRA.....become a memeber.
also, PLEASE take some time and visit:
http://www.illinoiscarry.com
thanks you cops and law-abiding citizens alike
Hey SCC, I heard a rumor that Master's resume was being padded and recorded in E-Learning with an eye towards his assumption of the mantle of Superintendent. Have you heard anything along those lines
I doubt it, I think Mayor HOFFMAN has his own ideas as for who he'd want for Supt, thank you.
Tell Masters his Harvard law degree and fake police credentials may get him a security gig at the TSA.
As a screener.
Hillard and others? Do you carry concealed
I know Hillard does, there's a dog in the 006 district he shot at after becoming an ex supt.
If dogs could talk, that one would have a story...
right, Terry the Taser?
I've been an NRA member for 30 years. I have NEVER gotten a phone call from them asking for money. I do get a call occasionally asking me to contact my political reps about some pending anti-2nd amendment legislation- that's it. Join the NRA and protect your rights to bear arms (or "bare arms" as Judy Biggert wrote to me). For a few bucks you help carry the load and get a very good monthly magazine also- American Hunter or American Rifleman- and NO phone calls!
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