Monday, May 17, 2010

Reversing Cause and Effect

  • The playground across from Kendra Snow's Englewood home is littered with broken liquor bottles, potato chip bags and other trash.

    The blue paint on the jungle gym is peeling, and its drawbridge is rusted. On a recent afternoon, a group of men congregated near the fenced-in swing set and drank beer as music blared from their car. On the basketball court, where a torn net dangles from a hoop, teenagers scuffled.

  • Experts note that playgrounds are arenas where children learn social skills and coordination, build muscle and stamina and are a place for kids to blow off steam from the pressures of school or home life.

    When playgrounds fall into neglect, they become magnets for loiterers, drug users or gangs, repelling families with kids who might have otherwise played there.

Um, we think the experts are full of shit here. The playgrounds aren't "falling into neglect" and attracting scumbags - the scumbags destroy the park so that decent people can't hang out there. Dope dealers and gang bangers don't want families around, don't want old people out enjoying the warm evenings, don't want well lit, clean, attractive open space.

So they destroy it. And it's all the northsiders' faults.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

the families themselves in certain neighborhoods are the ones to blame. They and their kids mess things up and dont take care of anything. Why the f*ck would they? they been getting free stuff all their lives....never worked for anything so they don't have any respect for anything. Earn it , work for it, you'll take care of it!

5/17/2010 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Experts note that playgrounds are areas where children learn social skills, build muscle and stamina and are a place for kids to blow off steam from the pressures of school or home life.

So are prisons.

5/17/2010 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well there is also the argument that the community allowed the parks and playgrounds to fall into disrepair. If you don't care about something, it tends to degrade.

And if you take that position as true, it gels with your overall position.

The neighborhood has allowed the thugs and criminals to take up a position of dominance in the community.

The peeling paint on the swing set is just the latest evidence of it. As long as we don't really focus on the violence and death.

The police will run towards gunfire for people they don't know, but until the community decides enough is enough and speaks out (in court) it's going to be SNAFU.

5/17/2010 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so sick of this backward thinking and passing the blame onto everyone except for the actual people who deserve it. The playgrounds are a disgusting mess because the locals make it that way. In a "normal" neighborhood you don't see adults hanging around the playground unless they have children. People don't stand on the street or playground all day long smoking weed, drinking, and gambling. I've seen playgrounds receive new equipment in the hood only to have it destroyed and vandalized within a week. Its just a waste of time and money. Not to mention that it is still not safe to even let your kids outside in these areas. Until some fundamental changes happen to the members of these communities and their ways of thinking and interacting in society then playgrounds are not even worth discussing. Oh but it is a convenient distraction isn't it? One more way of dodging responsibility and making it a issue of race.

5/17/2010 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They always seem to overlook the fact their neighbors & own children are responsible for destroying the playlot. This is the culture that without fail shifts blame on outside forces rather then on their own doorstep.

5/17/2010 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you happend to live on the nw side ,im sure you heard they are cutting multiple classes and giving pink slips to many veteran teachers,and making full day kindergarten into half day.They say budget cuts.Do u realize how much taxes are paid around the nw side schools.All r money is going south and west.Now people who r paying 15 k a year in property taxes cant even send their kids to full day kind.Its bullshit and theres nothing we can do about it. Heres a thought cut out free lunch and breakfast,that would save millions.The parents claim to be poor but drive up in escalades ,with their bling and spinning rims $200.00 shoes,tatoos,but cant afford a fucking p&j sandwich bullsshit

5/17/2010 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Bluedude said...

57th and racine is a perfect example of a park run by shithead gangmembers. It's pathetic. The north end is wide open for dope and beer chugging. If the residents cared, and they don't, the parents would setup and take it back. As soon as the cops show up, it's "BRUTAL ASS RACIST ASS WHITE ASS COPS". The crooked Palestinian/terrorist liquor store across from it is just as guilty. THAT store was the target of many USDA searchwarrants for LINK card fraud. The paper should get the right story.

5/17/2010 04:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Copy and paste to see this disturbing video.

Notice how they dont say anything about the race of the animal savage teens. Where is loudmouths Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? This is a hate crime if I ever saw one!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/14/surveillance-video-captures-teens-beating-year-old-elderly-man/

5/17/2010 05:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But yet a man tries to keep his lawn nice, people fuck with him knowing how he is and now he is being crucified because he shot and killed some piece of shit.

Exact same fucking thing.

I lived in a changing neighborhood. We went from leaving our bikes laying on the side of the house to having bars on our basement windows in six months. Moved several months after that.

People get the neighborhood they deserve. You don't throw good money after bad. You want a nice place to live, you have to defend it, monitor it and identify what the problem is before it gets a foothold.

The culture of some people just accept and allow for everything and then keep their mouth shut after something goes wrong. So fuck them.

5/17/2010 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At Wentworth Park, it's the people that don't live around here mostly destroying the park. The people that come for the softball tournaments and the Kennedy students that decide to play basketball instead of going to the CTA bus stop. Lately, families that obviously do not live around here have been dropping off their kids and then picking them up-must be nice. I wonder what would happen if I dropped off my white kids to play in "their" parks. How wonderful it must be to have the best of both worlds.

5/17/2010 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't agree with your viewpoint. They don't destroy the parks because they don't want others to use them. They destroy the parks because they don't put a value on property or life for that matter. How many CHA/Section 8 properties have you been in? The teaching of values begin at home, and for the most part, it is non-existent. They have no concept of the cost of replacing what they destroy because there are no repercussions when they do. I do feel badly for the few legit families who live in these areas.

5/17/2010 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't agree with your viewpoint. They don't destroy the parks because they don't want others to use them. They destroy the parks because they don't put a value on property or life for that matter. How many CHA/Section 8 properties have you been in? The teaching of values begin at home, and for the most part, it is non-existent. They have no concept of the cost of replacing what they destroy because there are no repercussions when they do. I do feel badly for the few legit families who live in these areas.

5/17/2010 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again hundreds if not thousands of Norwegians descended on Park Ridge to have their annual parade. No shootings, stabbings, or other forms of mayhem. Even some Swedes marched in the parade and a peaceful day was had by all.

I wonder why?

5/17/2010 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The angle of "RACISM" still serve's journalism well, you see. It's the perfect finishing touch on the liberal slant statistics, when the facts don't support their BS liberal story.

Willie B

5/17/2010 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While at a park on the north side with my son yesterday, I picked up the one piece of garbage I saw on the playground (a Starbucks cup) and threw it away. When's the last time you saw ANYBODY in the west and south side parks lift a lazy finger to try to improve conditions of their childrens' play area? It will never happen because you can't have respect for things that are handed to you for free. I care about my yard, my neighborhood and the parks in it because I work hard to pay for them and want my children to have a nice place to live and play. Things will never change in the ghetto until we stop giving hand outs.

5/17/2010 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Sick of it said...

Don't even get me started on who has more money dumped into their neighborhood parks. How dare these fucking pieces of shit! Mount Greenwood Park playground just received a long overdue makeover because the residents in the neiborhood paid for it, And then of course the alderwoman stepped up and took credit. The building there is horseshit. Let's take a look at the new park that just went up at about 13th and Racine in the heart of the old projects there. How about a multi million dollar makeover! Who the fuck paid for that? Certainly not those residents. Take care of yopur neighborhoods and quit pointing fingers and holding your hands out for more!

5/17/2010 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you happend to live on the N.W. side ,im sure you heard they are cutting multiple classes and giving pink slips to many veteran teachers,and making full day kindergarten into half day.They say budget cuts.Do u realize how much taxes are paid around the nw side schools.All r money is going south and west.Now people who r paying 15 k a year in property taxes cant even send their kids to full day kind.Its bullshit and theres nothing we can do about it. Heres a thought cut out free lunch and breakfast,that would save millions.The parents claim to be poor but drive up in escalades ,with their bling and spinning rims $200.00 shoes,tatoos,but cant afford a fucking p&j sandwich bullsshit


Response:
There is SOMETHING that you can do about it.
Same issue exists on South side too. I just received an online petiton from friend who is trying to save all-day kindergarten for Beverly school (Sutherland).

Apparently C.P.S. is planing to take their funding... "Ohh I get it now ": schools with taxpayers can't have all day Kindergarten programs, but "free lunchers" don't have to feel the same pain.Screw that!

Problem is when hard working taxpayers sit back and take this B.S.
There is something that can be done about this problem...S.Side group from Barbera Vick Pre-School (Beverly\Morgan Park area) united behind school principle and local pols. to get their funding. They had some very motivated parents that signed online petitions and took a bus down to B.O.E. and raised hell. Guess what they won!
Unfortunatly good programs in good neighborhoods always first on the chopping block. The idea that you can't do anything about it is not true. You must fight though.
Once these programs are gone they will likely be gone forever.
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

5/17/2010 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think all of the run down building that are near those parks were made like that by the Chicago Park District. The Park District neglected those buildings, refused to pick up trash on the streets, doesn't cover up graffiti on the garages - why come think of it, the Park District is to blame for all of the city's problems, I mean after blaming the police first. They took all of the money they had and diverted it to the buildings in nicer areas. You can see the proof by just driving around! Nice buildings surrounding nice parks? It is clear that the Chicago Park District is involved in an immense conspiracy here, funneling money to keep up the properties and neighborhoods and the nice parts of town!

Thank goodness we have those unwatched watchdogs, the media, to bring this to light. The bearers and standards of truth, accuracy and unbiased reporting are they!

Fuck wads. How does the media live with themselves?

5/17/2010 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Classic backwards logic. Those people are PROUD, no doubt about it. You cant criticize or correct them because they immediately take offense. But they have no PRIDE. No pride in the appearance of their homes, no pride in their own appearance, no pride in their children's upbringing, no pride in anything.

I, along with my neighbors are embarassed if even so much as a candy wrapper floats onto our lawn or in our gangway and does not get picked up right away.

But I guess I am also responsible for them not keeping up their neighborhoods. Maybe a new multi-million dollar taxpayer funded program can buy them brooms, lawnmowers, grass seed, paint etc. In fact, maybe we can start having community training seminars to show people how to clean up after themselves.

5/17/2010 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kind of flies in the face of the "broken windows" nonsense, doesn't it?

5/17/2010 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there anywhere in America where I can move to get away for all the nonsense?

5/17/2010 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Drive by the CTA bus stop on the southwest corner of 63rd and Ashland after about 1900hrs. on any given day. Fast food wrappers, empty cups, empty chip bags, bottles, etc. etc. thrown all around. Drive around Ogden Park near 64th and Racine after a nice day and it's littered with so much garbage on the grass it looks like there was a concert there. My partner and I got so fed up with this nonsense that we asked to work civilian dress in a covert car one day. We solved the mystery though, the litterbugs turned out to be residents of Hinsdale, Park Ridge, and Orland Park. Can you believe that? I didn't think so.

5/17/2010 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Decent people surrender their parks to the thugs because the decent people in Englewood are cowards.

5/17/2010 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember the park at North Ave and the I55, I think it's Ashland. It was right across the street from the block buster, which is'nt around anymore. I think it's a mercedes benz dealer now. Anyway, that was a nasty park. Talk about a shithole; I once had a prostitute throw a bottle at my car because I would'nt stop for her. I passed by the other day and could'nt believe how much that area changed. Man i'm getting old!!

5/17/2010 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's not too hard to hold your own kids accountable. it's harder when your neighbors kids aren't.

5/17/2010 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does one get to be one of these "experts"?

Crackerjack box?

5/17/2010 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If only there was a way to find out what was different from a northwest park and an Englewood park. Hmmm..
They both were new at one time. So what changed the Englewood park?

What could it be...

I will tell you the answer for an overpriced long term government grant. You can call me an expert too.

5/17/2010 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They need police guards at southside playgrounds; anything else would be gravy.

5/17/2010 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another example of the "Broken Window" theory in real life. Trash, bottles, broken playground equiptment, etc..

"Nah, it ain't MY problemz. Wenna the man goin to git here and fixes it fo me??"

5/17/2010 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everythings fucked up by all this "change". We must go back to the old ways, morals, and values. Just becase theres been change, that doesnt automatically make it better. Remember, some just want change because it will benefit them, but not make anything better

5/17/2010 02:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Is there anywhere in America where I can move to get away for all the nonsense?"

Idaho. I have the car packed and ready to go, just have to wait another 9 years, DOH!

5/17/2010 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The families in these areas are not to blame, they are not the ones causing the play lot damage. The damage is caused by the drunks adults and teens hanging around the play lots. The other side of the coin is the fact you cannot get the beat guys to enforce the law inside of the playlots and lock these guys up. It is something you have to keep a close watch on . When the assholes know they will be arrested, they will stay out of the playlots.

5/17/2010 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/14/surveillance-video-captures-teens-beating-year-old-elderly-man/


It would have made my day had this poor 73yr old man been able to light these savages up.

I can hear momma now: "Not my boy! He's a good boy!!

Yes momma, your son is a good boy. It's society's fault he grew up with no moral compass. It's society's fault that he'll end up in the system. It's all society's fault.

If they just knew how good your boy is.

5/17/2010 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If you happend to live on the N.W. side ,im sure you heard they are cutting multiple classes and giving pink slips to many veteran teachers,and making full day kindergarten into half day.They say budget cuts.Do u realize how much taxes are paid around the nw side schools.All r money is going south and west.Now people who r paying 15 k a year in property taxes cant even send their kids to full day kind.Its bullshit and theres nothing we can do about it. Heres a thought cut out free lunch and breakfast,that would save millions.The parents claim to be poor but drive up in escalades ,with their bling and spinning rims $200.00 shoes,tatoos,but cant afford a fucking p&j sandwich bullsshit"


He's a hint. Sell your midlife crisis Harley, take one less trip to Vegas, and fork over the 4k it will cost to send your kids to a decent school. CPS has been and always will be for shit. You will get what you pay for.

5/17/2010 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It falls back on the idea that working, law abiding, family oriented citizens should shoulder the responsibility for ignorant, indifferent, socially irresponsible, freeloading, self entitled, martyr complexed, dogs. You're stupid so its our fault. Those of us who worked during the King riots saw this sense of entitlement along Madison. Same thing with the looting that accompanied some of the Bulls championships. Yeah, lets pay everyone to behave the way they should be behaving anyway. Lets give "C" students monetary rewards for not getting "F's". And finally, the woman in front of me in the checkout at Jewel, that had 2 shopping carts full of goodies that rang up $314.00 on the register before she whipped out that Link card and whittled the register readout to $27.33 which was less than I had to pay for my 2 gallons of milk, a roast, some produce and a few canned goods.
Man that pisses me off.

5/17/2010 04:44:00 PM  
Anonymous CharLes Bronson said...

Sooooo... counting Crack and Learning how to stick peopLe up are sociaL skiLLs. Not to be a stickLer over detaiL, but the articLe forgot...syringes , cracK pipes , Loud Weed , Pimps an Ho's.

5/17/2010 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you don't have a stake in the community, you will not take care of it. To people who are used to having things handed to them, or are the recipient of government largesse, there is no stake. As they say down south, they ain't got a dog in the fight. So why would they give a rats ass?

5/17/2010 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE TOXIC PENGUIN SAYS.......park district unable to cut the grass in DOUGLAS PARK due to thousands of used needles strewn along ROOSEVELT ROAD side of park-BIOHAZARD situation- UNION laborers refuse to mow lawn.NORTHSIDERS TO BLAME!!!!!!!!!!

5/17/2010 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is exactly the "broken windows" theory at work. Total social disorganization. Sorry for the academia gibberish, but sometimes it's right on.

Free Bill Cozzi

5/17/2010 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i hate to say it like this, im an african american and a republican, but the blame for all the violence in our neighborhoods lies at home, the parents. i tried to get our communities involved but no one gives a damn about anything except the first of the month. kids are at home forgotten to fend for themselves, so when someone promises them a way out, guess what? with nothing to look forward to, who wouldn't take the easy way out. i tried to get my reverend involved and asked him to form a coalition of black and white reverends and speak oput against black on black violence and all i got as a reply, was that Rev Jackson and Meeks weren't ready to put the blame on where it belongs, in the black community, but instead try get as much in programs that will not be effective for the simple fact that no one in the community will take advantage of them and refuse to get themselves isolated. That when a black reverend speaks out against the black community is tantamount to political and financial suicide. and the fact that these reverends have nothing else to thrive on but black fear and ignorance, makes them very vulnerable if the truth was ever spoken out. GOD help us all, because we sure as hell cant help each other.

5/17/2010 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Gee-reg said...

It's the white mans fault for moving out of the ghetto. Don't you all know that park district property self destructs after whitey moves out. All those swings magically break, all them slides just fall down, all the water fountains break by themselves OR is it the certain progressive democrats that moves in ??????

5/17/2010 07:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about the advertisement of beautifull condos for sale in the area of 39TH AND VINCENNES!!!!! Shots fired all the time, same garbage that hung on the corners still hanging on the corners! Mandrake park built between 002 and 021. Hundreds from the long gone housing developments cant seem to break the ties and come back every weekend. And when they are gone, who is left to clean up???

5/17/2010 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Is there anywhere in America where I can move to get away for all the nonsense?

5/17/2010 10:49:00 AM

Arizona?

5/17/2010 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did it- On my way to work I stopped and pissed on the swing then I took a shit in the sand-wiped my ass on the bench, I then went to my vehicle took two bottles of beer along with a half doz used condoms then threw them on the ground. Oh I almost forgot I cleaned out my vehicle of trash and threw it around.

I don't live on the south-side BUT I DID IT!

5/17/2010 07:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the Northside which happens to have the LOWEST POLICE MANPOWER, we actually call the police to remove scumbags from the park. We also clean up after ourselves if we have a mess, as opposed to just throwing stuff on the ground and walking away.
Look at a residential street on the north side, then go to the west side and compare. We clean up after our selves, others don't! we respect our park environment, others don't.
VERY SIMPLE!!! KEEP IT CLEAN, MAKE IT YOURS!!!

5/17/2010 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS 2010/2011!!!
POLITICIANS SERVE THEMSELVES NOT THE CITIZEN!

5/17/2010 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever jackasses who came up with this story evidently did not witness the Fosco Park fiasco in 2004. Fosco Park was built at 13th and Racine in 012 where ABLA used to be. 012 had to have it on 24 hour guard along with the private Chicago Park District security because the savages from the neighborhood broke every single window on the building THE FIRST FUCKING DAY IT WAS OPEN. The park supposedly cost between $10-15 million. They are rehabbing a park district building in my neighborhood as we speak (north side) and the residents of the neighborhood have to raise HALF the money and the STATE ponied up the other half...nothing from the city. Haven't seen them do a thing to the park in the ten years I have lived here either; then again, my neighborhood is mostly professional white and hispanics...

5/17/2010 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At Wentworth Park, it's the people that don't live around here mostly destroying the park. The people that come for the softball tournaments and the Kennedy students that decide to play basketball instead of going to the CTA bus stop. Lately, families that obviously do not live around here have been dropping off their kids and then picking them up-must be nice. I wonder what would happen if I dropped off my white kids to play in "their" parks. How wonderful it must be to have the best of both worlds.

--Plenty of the neighborhood kids are there drinking and hanging out at night.
Outsiders are hanging there after school lets out.

Hale Park - neighborhood kids.

Valley Forge & Normandy - neighborhood kids with outsiders coming over to cause trouble.

Come on 811 3rd watch... step it up and do something instead of sitting at 58 & Central!

5/17/2010 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

- why come think of it, the Park District is to blame for all of the city's problems, I mean after blaming the police first.

Well, they do have the same initials. C.P.D. The root of all problems, apparently.

5/17/2010 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I constantly admonish young people that the chip bag and the soft drink container in their hand does not go on the ground. They just don't understand that they are contributing to the shabby appearance of their communities.

5/17/2010 09:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The litter, the glass, the graffiti can only be blamed on the people who live in that area. Litter and thrown about trash is a trademark of ghettoland. No one knows how to keep things clean.

5/17/2010 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

READ THIS YOU FUCKING MEDIA PUKES

Years ago as a youth officer in the 80's I was processing some kids, 12-14 yrs old maybe, for some BS loitering in 015. I asked them why they couldn't play ball or something near their home at Emmett School Playground. They said there was too much broken glass and the hoops were always broken. I said who's responsible for that? A kid says his mother told him that the white kids come in the middle of the night to trash the playgrounds in the black neighborhoods. They all nodded in agreement, dead serious. I knew right then that the situation was hopeless.

5/17/2010 09:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there anywhere in America where I can move to get away for all the nonsense?

5/17/2010 10:49:00 AM

ditto.

5/17/2010 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nicest little profesionally designed and landscaped park you could ever hope to see, southwest corner of Thorndale and Sheridan where once stood a vacant lot.

Might as well still be a vacant lot; the minute the dedication was over and the "dignitaries" left, it filled with shouting, baggy-ass M/1 corner boys from under the Thorndale "L," and from the surrounding buildings. Lots of old people around there in the high-rises who'd love to have a safe place to sit outside -- and not one of them would go anywhere near this mess. I was afraid to even attempt a photo.

5/17/2010 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Tired Soul said...

A park is a place for play, for fun, for development, for enjoyment. A park is for us. The shitheads run it and Daley is the biggest shithead out there.

My city bleeds and no one seems to care. Let me be the police again. Let me visit violence on those who intend to do us harm. Let me extinguish the beast and rid us of him. Let me provide for the righteous and deny the wrongdoers. Let me make a difference...

5/17/2010 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And finally, the woman in front of me in the checkout at Jewel, that had 2 shopping carts full of goodies that rang up $314.00 on the register before she whipped out that Link card and whittled the register readout to $27.33 which was less than I had to pay for my 2 gallons of milk, a roast, some produce and a few canned goods."

"Man that pisses me off."

--5/17/2010 04:44:00 PM

No. You must have misread something like a $270.33 total. Link users pay exactly the same price everyone else does on food items, minus state sales tax. Say if tax was 10 percent off the top of my head, $314.00 - $31.40 = $283.00. In the ballpark.

Link users pay the same price as everyone else AND full sales tax on prepared food (like a salad from the deli or something) and any and all non-food items.

5/17/2010 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let the paper print the real reason the playgrounds on the southside are in disrepair. The people that live the those area's don't care to keep the equipment from being broken. Treat it with no concerns for others and that is the end results, not that the gangs start to using the playgrounds once there is broken swings and slides. Time to call the on the so called minsters and other "church rep's" to stop the trashing of their onw neigborhoods.

5/17/2010 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If you happend to live on the N.W. side ,im sure you heard they are cutting multiple classes and giving pink slips to many veteran teachers,and making full day kindergarten into half day.They say budget cuts.Do u realize how much taxes are paid around the nw side schools.All r money is going south and west.Now people who r paying 15 k a year in property taxes cant even send their kids to full day kind.Its bullshit and theres nothing we can do about it. Heres a thought cut out free lunch and breakfast,that would save millions.The parents claim to be poor but drive up in escalades ,with their bling and spinning rims $200.00 shoes,tatoos,but cant afford a fucking p&j sandwich bullsshit"


He's a hint. Sell your midlife crisis Harley, take one less trip to Vegas, and fork over the 4k it will cost to send your kids to a decent school. CPS has been and always will be for shit. You will get what you pay for.

5/17/2010 04:42:00 PM

Now here's a hint for you. Stop caving in. Go out and vote. You pay taxes, probably more then most, and deserve to get a good public school in return. Get involved in you neighborhood. It can work. We won with Barbra Vick on the South side and are making headway at the Ag School. The results of the last LSC election have the Rev Meeks running scared because Beverly and Mt Greenwood came out and voted big time. He is now saying we should abolish LSC's because he didn't get his way. LSC's were fine when his people won but when White voters came out all of a sudden they are bad for schools.

5/17/2010 10:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember the park at North Ave and the I55, I think it's Ashland. It was right across the street from the block buster, which is'nt around anymore. I think it's a mercedes benz dealer now. Anyway, that was a nasty park. Talk about a shithole; I once had a prostitute throw a bottle at my car because I would'nt stop for her. I passed by the other day and could'nt believe how much that area changed. Man i'm getting old!!

5/17/2010 11:23:00 AM

The park was called Rostenkowski Park. It was just south of North Ave on Greenview. The Mercedes dealer was Blockbuster but years ago it was a restaurant called Town & Country.

5/17/2010 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A kid says his mother told him that the white kids come in the middle of the night to trash the playgrounds in the black neighborhoods. They all nodded in agreement, dead serious."

..not that a single one of them actually ever SAW this; after all, no one is ever "up in the middle of the night" in black neighborhoods to bear witness.

They were just as serious about "Nike molding anti-black statements into the soles of their basketball shoes," even though any one of them could have looked at the bottom of his shoe and seen that there was no such thing there.

"I knew right then that the situation was hopeless."

--5/17/2010 09:26:00 PM

Yeah. It is. Failed social experiment.

5/17/2010 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's a hint. Sell your midlife crisis Harley, take one less trip to Vegas, and fork over the 4k it will cost to send your kids to a decent school. CPS has been and always will be for shit. You will get what you pay for.

5/17/2010 04:42:00 PM

Great idea, but how do I get around the religious fairy tales that I refuse to brainwash my kids with? The current pope is behind one of the greatest cover-ups in history. Bunch of damn hypocrites!

All those fine Reverends and churchgoing folk in 011/015 believe in the same god. Remember that next you are feeling high and mighty.

5/17/2010 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I constantly admonish young people that the chip bag and the soft drink container in their hand does not go on the ground. They just don't understand that they are contributing to the shabby appearance of their communities.

5/17/2010 09:02:00 PM"


they understand.

they just don't give a fuck.

5/17/2010 11:29:00 PM  
Blogger sc911 said...

He's a hint. Sell your midlife crisis Harley, take one less trip to Vegas, and fork over the 4k it will cost to send your kids to a decent school. CPS has been and always will be for shit. You will get what you pay for.

5/17/2010 04:42:00 PM


Agreed.

5/17/2010 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Link users pay the same price as everyone else AND full sales tax on prepared food (like a salad from the deli or something) and any and all non-food items."

--5/17/2010 10:22:00 PM

Oops. My bad. Link users pay the same price as everyone else for food items, minus just the state sales tax. (The more careful a shopper they are, the more they buy on sale, use coupons, etc. the better off they are.)

They pay CASH and full sales tax on prepared food -- a hot sandwich from the deli counter, ready-to-eat, is not covered -- and any and all non-food items. Paper towels, soap, and many common supermarket items are NON-FOOD and NOT covered by Link.

5/18/2010 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I constantly admonish young people that the chip bag and the soft drink container in their hand does not go on the ground. They just don't understand that they are contributing to the shabby appearance of their communities."

--5/17/2010 09:02:00 PM"

You don't get it. Just because it's shaped like you, with legs and arms and a head, doesn't mean that it shares any of your knowledge or ideas or perceptions.

They quite literally operate in a parallel universe -- haven't you ever experienced a group of them shouting right through you as though you didn't even exist? To them, you don't; you're just an object like many others on the street, most of which they can't even name or understand.

"Admonish." I'm gonna cry.

5/18/2010 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger sc911 said...

He's a hint. Sell your midlife crisis Harley, take one less trip to Vegas, and fork over the 4k it will cost to send your kids to a decent school. CPS has been and always will be for shit. You will get what you pay for.

5/17/2010 04:42:00 PM

Agreed.

5/17/2010 11:37:00 PM

Here's another hint...Why do we put our lives on the line every day and night at work, while the dregs of humanity get everything they want and complain when they are somehow cheated ??? FUCK these assholes and the boat they sailed in on! If we risk our lives every day, why shouldn't we get to ride the Harley, drive the decent car, enjoy a fun vacation ? If you don't think that you are worth it, go fuck yourself! We put too much on the line to not enjoy ourselves a few times a year!

5/18/2010 03:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"I constantly admonish young people that the chip bag and the soft drink container in their hand does not go on the ground. They just don't understand that they are contributing to the shabby appearance of their communities.

5/17/2010 09:02:00 PM"


they understand.

they just don't give a fuck.

5/17/2010 11:29:00 PM


Throwing chip bags and the soft drink containers on the ground is as natural as pissing in the stairwell or elevator to them.

5/18/2010 05:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"And finally, the woman in front of me in the checkout at Jewel, that had 2 shopping carts full of goodies that rang up $314.00 on the register before she whipped out that Link card and whittled the register readout to $27.33 which was less than I had to pay for my 2 gallons of milk, a roast, some produce and a few canned goods."

"Man that pisses me off."

--5/17/2010 04:44:00 PM


that means the woman checking them out was in on it and committed theft by under ringing the groceries. I have arrested momma and daughter several times for doing exactly that.

Momma comes in, loads up on over $500 of groceries, daughter rings up $5 or so and off they go, or so they thought. Video and store security stopped them. I got felony theft charges on momma and daughter from that one. And the daughter of course got fired and has a nice entry for her resume.

I love it when a family can stay together in life and in jail.

5/18/2010 05:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Link users pay the same price as everyone else AND full sales tax on prepared food (like a salad from the deli or something) and any and all non-food items.

5/17/2010 10:22:00 PM

"A salad from the deli." Now THAT'S funny!

5/18/2010 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sounds like the cta is using the same cleaning crew as the park district..... had the unpleasant experience of riding the red "main" line a few weeks back and it was quite funky... a good rule of thumb is to always look down before you sit.... nothing will ever beat the smell of the old "jewtown" on halsted street though....

5/18/2010 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A salad from the deli." Now THAT'S funny!

--5/18/2010 07:09:00 AM

You got me cold. It was late and I was tired. I was thinking like myself. Gotta lower my sights; set for "Lowest Common Denominator."

A bag of red-hots and a can of grape soda is covered by Link. On the other hand, if an employee were to open the bag of red-hots and uncap the soda for the customer, that would be "prepared food" and not covered.

*

5/18/2010 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

READ THIS YOU FUCKING MEDIA PUKES

Years ago as a youth officer in the 80's I was processing some kids, 12-14 yrs old maybe, for some BS loitering in 015. I asked them why they couldn't play ball or something near their home at Emmett School Playground. They said there was too much broken glass and the hoops were always broken. I said who's responsible for that? A kid says his mother told him that the white kids come in the middle of the night to trash the playgrounds in the black neighborhoods. They all nodded in agreement, dead serious. I knew right then that the situation was hopeless.

5/17/2010 09:26:00 PM

A former Black Commander in 15 would tell the community groups taht the White man was stealing all the trees in the neighborhood and some of the fools nodded in aggreement.

5/18/2010 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger sc911 said...

He's a hint. Sell your midlife crisis Harley, take one less trip to Vegas, and fork over the 4k it will cost to send your kids to a decent school. CPS has been and always will be for shit. You will get what you pay for.

5/17/2010 04:42:00 PM

Agreed.

5/17/2010 11:37:00 PM

"Here's another hint...Why do we put our lives on the line every day and night at work, while the dregs of humanity get everything they want and complain when they are somehow cheated ??? FUCK these assholes and the boat they sailed in on! If we risk our lives every day, why shouldn't we get to ride the Harley, drive the decent car, enjoy a fun vacation ? If you don't think that you are worth it, go fuck yourself! We put too much on the line to not enjoy ourselves a few times a year!"

A very intelligent post. I feel sorry for your kids. You must be a CPS product yourself.

5/18/2010 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen it at the Ultra Foods in Calumet Park. The shopper buys a bunch of groceries, swipes their Link card and then has to pay a small amount "out of pocket" for the remaining balance. Nothing like buying 2 carts full of food, tendering a $20.00 bill and getting some change back!

I see it everyday. It really pisses me off also!

5/18/2010 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's a hint. Sell your midlife crisis Harley, take one less trip to Vegas, and fork over the 4k it will cost to send your kids to a decent school. CPS has been and always will be for shit. You will get what you pay for.

5/17/2010 04:42:00 PM

Agreed.

5/17/2010 11:37:00 PM


Property owners already pay for the schools

5/18/2010 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Tyree said...

The link family got the bulk for free on the dole, the small remainder was for items like cigarettes and booze that link wont buy....well, except at the arab stores.

5/18/2010 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"A kid says his mother told him that the white kids come in the middle of the night to trash the playgrounds in the black neighborhoods. They all nodded in agreement, dead serious."

..not that a single one of them actually ever SAW this; after all, no one is ever "up in the middle of the night" in black neighborhoods to bear witness.

They were just as serious about "Nike molding anti-black statements into the soles of their basketball shoes," even though any one of them could have looked at the bottom of his shoe and seen that there was no such thing there.

"I knew right then that the situation was hopeless."

--5/17/2010 09:26:00 PM

You forgot to mention about the white devils creating the AIDS virus in order to decimate the black population...

5/19/2010 10:31:00 PM  

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