Shortshanks Readies Roadblocks
- Within the next five weeks the United States Supreme Court will rule on a challenge to Chicago's 28-year-old ban on handguns. It's believed the court will rule that the law is unconstitutional. [...]
Conventional wisdom is that the handgun ban will not pass constitutional muster. Mindful of that, the city has been -- for some time now -- formulating plans on what it does next. The mayor says there are plans in place still being refined. But a strong hint of what Chicago will do requires only a look at the nation's capital.
On that score, the city is considering requiring gun owners to carry a level of liability insurance.
"You'll have to show that you have insurance before you can purchase and register a gun, somewhat similar to what you do before you buy a car," said Prof. Harold Krent, Kent College of Law dean.
Much of what the city is working on is still on the drawing board, subject to the specifics of the high court's opinion. Whatever Chicago enacts will be challenged in court by opponents who argue that local government is just trying to subvert the Constitution with ineffective hoops and hurdles.
Oh, and J-Fled says there's nothing the police can do to prevent "indoor" homicides, so if you don't have a panic room set up, you better just die quietly and stop embarrassing the mayor.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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And you will have to purcahse this insurance form the Mayor's brother John Daley. Just like EVERY truck that was involved in the hired truck scandal. Each were made to purchase over inflate priced insurance from John Daley's insurance company.
Using his 'logic', almost all indoor crime is unstoppable. Rape, stabbings (had a bunch of those recently, burglary...
No, wait! Burglary is an outdoor crime trying TO GET indoors.
And forget drug use. Drug houses.. ALL INDOORS. So free up the Narcotics section personnel. We've found our summer replacement help.
Could he be any simpler?
Coincidentally, I received correspondence via the USPS today advertising "V.D. Insurance".
My better half, always the pessimistic type, assumed my college days of Man Whoring had finally caught up to me in the form of a long-dormant venereal disease.
She was greatly relieved to learn it was just "Vanecko-Davis" trolling for clients for their new "Firearm Owner Insurance".
We all knew that Shitshanks would not ever give up his pointless gun ban, fighting it to no end with millions of taxpayer dollars.
This idea has popped up before, requiring gun owners to carry liability insurance to cover if your gun is stolen and used in a crime. The insurance companies have stated that they want no part of this insurance.
And even if they sold it, the firing of gun is a deliberate act. Insurance does not cover deliberate acts.
But why should I be liable for another's deliberate criminal acts?
I guess we all should have been buying 1st Amendment insurance all these years too. Just in case I say something stupid or offensive, I'm covered.
Has the Mayor and J-Fled tried the obvious? How about asking the gang bangers nicely. When you fill up the car with dead bodies, please park it in the suburbs. Don't laugh. It would help.
Jesus Harold Christ, get over yourselves, Chicago politicians. You aren't gods, you aren't the final arbiter of all social issues. You're wrong on this one and SCOTUS is about to reaffirm that.
We fought a bloody, miserable civil war over issues like this; states or municipalities do not have the right to circumvent the constitution, period. Yes, even though the right to keep and bear arms is rooted in Anglo traditions and Chicago is a predominantly 'non-Anglo' city- and any number of compelling 'theoretical' arguments can be made as to why guns shouldn't be permitted in a place like this- at the end of the day, it really isn't Chicago's decision to make. It's Chicago's decision to live with.
Unfortunately, self-determination doesn't extend to cities that wish to use their authority to deprive it's citizens of basic rights, self defense being one of them.
It boggles the fucking mind that in economic circumstances like these, the city is about to take a lawsuit-magnet of a position in the face of clear-cut legal dicta that says it's a total non-starter.
God, I hate idealists....
And wich daley crime family member owns the insurance company the will say we must use?
J-Fled had been in the Law Enforcement business for 25 years.
Finally sick of the stress he quits his job and buys 50 acres of land in Alaska as far from humanity as possible.
He sees the postman once a week and gets groceries once a month. Otherwise it's total peace and quiet.
After six months or so of almost total isolation, someone knocks on his door.
He opens it and a short little man is standing there.
''Name's Richie, your neighbor from forty miles up the road. Having a Christmas party Friday night.. Thought you might like to come. About 5:00."
"Great", says J-Fled, "After six months out here I'm ready to meet some local folks. Thank you."
As Richie is leaving, he stops. "Gotta warn you, be some drinkin'."
"Not a problem," says J-Fled. "After 25 years in the business, I can drink with the best of 'em."
Again, the big man starts to leave and stops. "More'n' likely gonna be some fightin' too."
"Well, I get along with people, I'll be all right. I'll be there. Thanks again."
"More'n likely be some wild sex, too,"
"Now that's really not a problem," saysJ-Fled, warming to the idea. "I've been all alone for six months! I'll definitely be there. By the way, what should I wear?"
"Don't much matter. Just gonna be the two of us."
What is suddenly so ineffectived about the registration scheme they've been using for the past 3 decades? They've not been worried about insuring or otherwise restricting the cops, security guards, or civilians with grandfathered pistols to date.
Can we use FOIA requests to find out how many civilian, security guard, and cop registrations they've processes in the past 3 decades?
For that matter, how would this insurance idea work? First, it would only cover accidents, since no insurance company will insure against an unlawful act. Second, in IL, we already have civil immunity when using lethal force for self-defense, so the state is 'insuring' us in that respect.
How many firearms accidents have happened with licensed handguns in the City of Chicago over the past 3 decades? For that matter, how many with licensed rifles and shotguns? Every shooting I hear about seems to involve the commission of some crime.
forewarned = forearmed
isn't there a good vindictive lawyer out there who would like to cash in on suing the city of chicago for obstructing the 2nd ammendment...or some civil rights people anxious to test laws that are obviously barricades to civil rights?
Isn't daley's insurance hook a conflict of some type seeing that the "family" has an investment in insuring?
if the little pimp daley would spend as much time and money on creating laws for reducing murders in chicago as he does with defeating our civil rights under the 2nd amm. we'd be a safer and wealthier city.
So wait a minute. If I register my one shotgun now at a cost of $20/year..after this thing hits the fan in Washington, I'll now have to still pay $20 (or more), and now pay to have liability insurance?! That's bullshit! If I haven't had it for 6 years since I've owned the gun, I certainly don't need it now.
I can only hope I've moved out of this shithole by then. Or I just won't re-register anything.
As police (I am not), can you guys honestly say how many crimes have been solved with our cockamamie "gun registry database?" I'm betting you can count them on one hand - if that! More police doing a bullshit job that can be better utilized elsewhere.
I don't believe the 2nd Amendment has any provision for insurance. But I'm no legal scholar.
Also will the City pay for our insurance if this is enacted?
This is akin to the illegal health care bill that requires citizens to pay a private company for something they may not want or go to jail.
Thanks comrade Dayle.
Headline News: Gangbangers Lineup To Purchase Firearm Liability Insurance
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Trick question... Crimes aren't solved using the registry database because the shotgun/rifle owners who were responsible enough to actually figure out how the hell to register their weapons are the same responsible citizens that don't tend to commit crimes with their weapons.
Also--security guards don't even have to register--they are exempt!
"You'll have to show that you have insurance before you can purchase and register a gun, somewhat similar to what you do before you buy a car," said Prof. Harold Krent, Kent College of Law dean.
So will the gangbangers be buying their gun insurance from the same agents that sell them their car insurance?
You jerks don't understand. When i was a young child I asked the policeMEN who guarded our house 24/7 if I needed a handgun. They said no, DICK. When Jack Townsend took me to achool everyday with his armed driver, I asked them if I needed a handgun, they said no DICK. When my dads guards took me to Michigan I asked them when they were rubbing sun tan lotion on me "Do I need a handgun? They said no DICK. When Dick Devine was giving me the answers to the BAR exam I asked "Do I need a handgun? He said no little DICK, Eddie Burke is here with his. And since then my guards can verify, I have never needed a handgun. Now go choke on your 2%.
Can anyone give me a valid reason that retired Police Officers have to re-register their duty weapons on a yearly basis? My guns have all been registered since the change in forms around 1983 (the one requiring a photo). Now I have to do it every year for the gun that remains in the city. What sense does that make? At least we don't have to pay the stupid fee.
I vote for "carry and conceal" and VOTE against Daley and his people every chance I get!!
Daley will try to use the death of this officer to promote the ban on handguns but, It was a handgun that stopped two offenders immidiately. They will never be able to shoot or rob anyone again.
F Daley. RIP Officer!
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/05/gun-control-butt-of-daley-joke.html
what a cocksucker.
Det. Shaved Longcock said...
And you will have to purcahse this insurance form the Mayor's brother John Daley. Just like EVERY truck that was involved in the hired truck scandal. Each were made to purchase over inflate priced insurance from John Daley's insurance company.
5/20/2010 12:06:00 AM
Insurance, I get it. Sort of like the $5 and $10 pencils the traffic guys used to sell on Lake Shore Drive in the 60's and 70's.
I have no doubt that Shortshanks and co. will up the fees considerably to renew handgun registrations in the coming months when this ban is overturned.
While the little (in size) demented idiot on the fifth floor may be proposing new anti-gun ordinances, now may be the time to tell your aldermen to block it. The The fight has been fought for over 20 years. It has, like most Democratic programs, accomplished nothing.
If the Idiot in charge has no sense, may the City Counsel does.
isn't there a good vindictive lawyer out there who would like to cash in on suing the city of chicago for obstructing the 2nd ammendment...or some civil rights people anxious to test laws that are obviously barricades to civil rights?
--There was a lawyer on the news today that said he will challenge Daley's restrictions all the way. Can't remember his name though.
How many gangbangers carry insurance on their weapons? The government should have no say so on insurance matters with handguns. period.
And since when does the government have the authority to require someone to have insurance for a Constitutional Right? It's a right, not a privilege.
We killed the British and tossed them from our shores for less egregious violations of our rights than we are tolerating now.
Just keep voting for Democrats, you gets what you deserves.
GNC
Daley has to go! Remember, remember all this at election time! Why can't law abiding people be able to protect themselves with out fear of become the criminal. Criminal don't play by any rules. Start giving criminal time and this will all stop. Stop all the give aways and make everyone work for what they get. I see it every day, the ones causing all the problems are on government handouts.
Vote Daley out! He is in charge and he is the blame!
And all weapons will need an annual inspection sticker for which you have to fill out a form five which you have to get from me and I don't make them no more!
Someone shouLd License and tax the gangs for fucking and breeding.
Maybe we should require the media to have insurance to get stories correct. I mean after all, you can hurt someone's feelings or their reputation. Require insurance for a right guaranteed by the constitution? I'm sure our founding fathers wanted to pay more taxes and fees for their rights. Wait a minute, they fought those who wanted to take their rights. Let's just keep voting for bozos like this...Sorry Bozo, you were okay. How's that Change working out for you?
Insurance, I get it. Sort of like the $5 and $10 pencils the traffic guys used to sell on Lake Shore Drive in the 60's and 70's.
5/20/2010 06:49:00 PM
WRONG!
It was upgraded to pens back then.
If you buy my last pen, I cannot possibly write you a ticket, kapeesh?
BIC Crystals were nice, and well worth the cost of a traffic court date!
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