Seriously? Indoor Outdoor?
Police Supt. Jody Weis knows that he will ultimately find himself on the hotseat for the surge. But, he’s got a new defense.
He's creating a new category of "indoor" homicides — and downplaying what police can do about them..
“Those homicides that are outdoors — the ones that I do believe we have a good possibility of preventing — we’re around 98 homicides for Chicago outdoors. That’s as low as it’s ever been, except for 2007, when I believe we had 97 homicides outdoors as of this date,” he said.
This reeks of desperate statistical manipulation and at least one aldercreature calls it as such:
Ald. Freddrenna Lyle (6th) has her hands full combating a surge of homicides in the South Side’s Gresham District.
[..] Not surprisingly, Lyle draws no such distinction between indoor and outdoor homicides.
“I understand the logic — that police would have no way to know about what goes on inside peoples’ homes. But, I don’t necessarily believe that becomes a separate category when you’re talking about the number of people murdered in a city. The average citizen doesn’t make that distinction,” she said.
Rev. Marshall Hatch, chairman of the Leaders Network, said it’s “not helpful” for Weis to “make those kinds of distinctions” between indoor and outdoor homicides.
“Whether the murders happen inside or outside, we expect the police to take responsibility for solving and preventing crime,” Hatch said, pastor of the New Mount Pilgrim Baptist Church in West Garfield Park.
“I don’t think that’s a useful distinction for the superintendent to make. I don’t think it sends the right kind of signal about the sense of responsibility we want the police to have.”
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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SOFTBALL CITY!!!!
perp is shot while walking in? What categorey? 1/2 & 1/2? Innie or Outtie?
Hey, lets break it down further...public vs private property. Shot in a lawn? Not our problem. Shot in a car? Not our problem. Shot in the library? Yes. that one is just for giggles. Hey, how about if the gun was LOADED inside PRIOR to a homicide, THAT becomes the address of occurrence because THAT is where the INTENT originated, so that is where the crime actually was hatched. Lol. What a douche. Leave it to a Fed to play smoke and mirrors.
SQUAD, CAN I PLEASE HAVE A SHOT OF WHISKEY WITH MY NEXT EVENT NUMBER????????
I'd like a ruling from the judges on this one. Since the three bodies were inside the vehicle,how are they classified? Indoor or outdoor? Foreign or domestic? City or suburban? Has he Fled or did he Man-up? The possibilities are endless.
NEWS RELEASE.
The Superintendent of Police Announces Another Reduction In Crime.
The Superintendfent of Police announces that, via the institution of his new innovative crime fighting technique known as G-RUN, and his ground breaking statistical record keeping known as G-BRSRK, inside robberies and outside robberies have both been decreased by 50%.
Also, outside burglaries have been decreased by 100%, however, inside burglaries have remained constant and have not changed, although all efforts will be extended to create a reduction in that category.
Does this mean we can start having "indoor roll calls"??????
"Indoor," "outdoor," and let's not forget "workplace" -- boy, don't we have some desperate muddying of the waters going on.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING KILLED ON YOUR WATCH, JODY.
Deal wid it.
Does that mean there will be new UCR codes to differentiate between indoor or outdoor homicides?
He sounds like Obama, making excuses and blaming everyone else for his foibles.
it's really simple mathmatics: cold outside = indoor homicides.
hot outside = outdoor homicides.
The real solution is blame Tom Skilling.
"from now on, anyone murdered in a house will be identified as a HOMEICIDE"... Judy Weis
Next up is the day v. night murders.
Then we seperate the above v. below freezing murders.
Are the 3 dudes found whacked in the car in 009 indoor or outdoor?
Funny thing is, they are all still dead.
What if someone fires from inside the house striking a Victim that is outside. What's a statistician supposed to do? I call a MULLIGAN.
What if a Rev whacks an Adlderperson? What do you call that? A good start?
Hello welcome to the killing fields!
Phil learned the hard way about pressure from a former Superintendent. Is J-Fed that thick???
Can one old outfit Sheriff/Superintendent wield that much power???
Hate to see Mayor Richard M. Daley brought down, the tapes, audio and record could do it...
How far do we go???
So if a creep grabs a girl outdoors and brings her into an abandoned building before he kills her then nothing can be done about that? Other cities will be laughing their asses off when this one gets out.
Hawks win! Toews will lead the boys to the Stanley Cup for sure. Hope they bring the same game back to The UC for game three.
So the 3 bodies in the trunk of the avalon.......are they outdoor homicides because the car was outside.......or are they indoor homicides because tghe bodies were inside.....inside the car that is. Hmmmmmm....another dilema for j_fled
Unbelievable!
If a stray bullet hits and kills a 2 year old sleeping in his or her bed its an indoor homicide.
If somebody gets shot on the sidewalk and stumbles into a nearby building and dies its an indoor homicide.
A store clerk being killed inside his or her store is an indoor homicide.
And how about home invaders breaking down people's doors and killing them. Yes, an indoor homicide.
What if a cabbie is shot dead inside their vehicle? Is that an indoor homicide? Oooooh I can hear the arguments now between JO-TOX and the Area Chief! Hope nobody gets dumped over this new shakeup! HA!
JO-TOX really made a complete asshole out of himself on this one. Hey asshole, I think everybody already knew that the police can't do much to prevent such murder-suicides. You didn't have to tell us. Stop trying to dance around the facts and admit that you are a failure cuz trust me, thats also something the rest of chicago already knows.
Delusional goof.
WTF!!!!!!! A murder IS a murder regardless of where the hell it's at!!!! Ahhhhhhhhh.... I hate this city! How about we tally the # of dumbasses that reside here?
Thank you for explaining that. We had an interview with the Redeye last week about why we're avoiding Chicago. They're buying into the 'classifications' but I am not.
Hire more new police officers to patrol the streets, and make a detectives class to investigate the crimes, since there hasnt been a class in almost 3 years.
Guy crashes car in 008. Found shot dead behind the wheel by responding officers. Is that an inside homicide (inside the car)or maybe just a traffic crash, Jfed you inbred dope?
You wouldn't make a pimple on a PPOs ass......seriously you suck...bad!
"He's creating a new category of "indoor" homicides — and downplaying what police can do about them.."
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Doesn't this guy have any clue? If you're a copper, it's embarrassing to hear this guy talk.
So if the serial rapist/killer thats working out south kills the prostitutes indoors it shouldn't count as a preventable homicide??????
“Whether the murders happen inside or outside, we expect the police to take responsibility for solving and preventing crime,” Hatch said
Thats in the category of indoor homicides and outdoor homicides, plain stupid. J-Fled and the fake rev hatch have been too close to the oil spill in the gulf!
Maybe tact teams should take a que at this.. When bosses are wondering why activity is down they should let them know their are snowy days, rainy days and sunny days to compare the activity against. We can also use the comparison of good bosses to work for versus bad bosses.. What's fair is fair!
VERY STUPID and a slap in the face
OT: All commanders will be giving up 52 days next year bringing their salary to about $111,000 per year (about as much as a Lt. makes) No 55 and out, No pay raise for the last three years. Any Takers? I guess not.
I don't know what kind of drugs he's on,but now that I"m retired and don't have to take the piss test,I would'nt mind trying some!
Just curious ... if someone is inside and shot from the outside, which category does that fall into?
What a clown.
Indoor vs. Outdoor homicides? Wow. Just Wow.Truth really is stranger than fiction. And don't even get me started on fake reverends.....
Day/Night?
Weekday/Weekend?
North/South/East/West?
Cousin/Play Cousin?
Pookie/Bubba?
TeTe/Boo?
The categories are endless! Genius! Pure Genius!
O.T. Some interesting radio chatter on Zone 11 last evening.
OT I saw earlier posts regarding a scandal brewing. If its the same one I heard about, things are going to get real bad real soon. This scandal will rock the department. Everyone head for cover! You've been warned.
J-Fed has made another error. the Outdoor homicides should have been broken down further to those that occurred outdoors during the day and on clear nights with a full moon because without the moonlight it is too dark to see the offenders outside.
J-Fed could also include another category to list homicides that occurred outside within a few blocks of outdoor rollcalls he attended that when shots were heard he ran like a PUSSY.
Inside murders or domestics can be prevented or reduced by enforcing oop more strictly.
Violators should be locked in jail forever or forced to relocate instead of forcing the victim to move which may mean the loss of friends and support systems.
He should never have gone public with this nonsense, but he is absolutely right and any cop worth his wait in gold knows it too; there is no way we can prevent what happens behind closed doors, we really can't prevent what happens outside, unless we happen to be on-scene when it happens, if someone wants to kill they will kill, by whatever means they have at their disposal; he was stating the obvious, but in this city, where it always somebody elses fault it will hang him. As the good reverend said," we hold the police reponsible", instead of holding themselves responsible. He's a goner......
Maybe they should put cameras in all our homes.
I say if the victim was a felon it should only count as 1/3 of a homicide.
The triple homicides in a car trunk. Are they inside or outside? Did he talk to the gang leaders and tell them to knock it off. Do their hits inside? I give him credit for the bullshit.
Next will be right hand and left hand homicides.
Then shoes or no shoes.
ETC>>>>>
Whoo boy...that McCarthy guy in NJ is looking better and better every day.
Daley must be having a serious hissyfit that he never seriously considered him for the top job NOW.
I don't think in my past 24 years here that I've ever seen such an outrageous 'those ain't my fault' disclaimer stated by a Supt. here.
What a putz J-Fled has turned into.
And the Mayor seriously wants to extend this flat tire's contract for another year? HAHAHAHAHA
Maybe the master(s) plan is to install cameras in every home likely to have a homicide?
Better yet, a violence meter? Measures heat, samples alcohol or drugs in the air, and noise levels?
More contracts, more toys, fewer police. Above all, figure out how to parse blame?
Lord help us! This guy is in charge? And really rev the police are responsible? All our problems right here in a nutshell.
For those bodies found in the car, are they considered indoor or outdoor?
They were inside a car but the car was outside. Hold me down the rest of the tour figuring this out.
Maybe this is the new millennium's Catch-22.
Is there a subcategory for "on the street" and "inside a motor vehicle"? More useless statistical categories that fail to address the violent crime problem...... a smoke cloud....
Hey asshole Jody . A Homicide is a Homicide no matter where the Fuck it happens , Geez are you a dumb mutherfucer . Please take that Koolaid away from him . God save the CPD.
“Whether the murders happen inside or outside, we expect the police to take responsibility for solving and preventing crime,” Hatch said, pastor of the New Mount Pilgrim Baptist Church in West Garfield Park.
WOW! Was Hatch smoking the same stuff that J-Fled was at the last policy meeting?
You want the police to take responsibility for preventing crime BUT.....when we do you, along with all your other play reverunds scream that we are picking on your flock.
You want the police to take responsibility for preventing crime BUT.....when we grab pookie off the street, with the gun and proceeds on him from the convenience store he just robbed, you and pookies family all stand before the media, holding his 8th grade graduation photo, and cry for the cameras that he didn't do it! The police MUST have planted all that evidence on him!
You want the police to take responsibility for preventing crime BUT.....when I get a call to go to a local grade school because boo-boo just slugged his teacher because she gave him an F for not turning in his assignment. And I cannot get hold of mamma or, in rare circumstances, daddy to come to the station to pick the future honor student up.
Sorry reverund. Preventing crime is EVERY ONE'S responsibility. We don't expect you or your followers to solve crime but you can help us in preventing it by.......wait for it......wait for it.......TAKING RESPONSIBILTY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS.
If you see a crime being committed, tell us everything you saw. If you know who committed the crime, tell us who did it and where we can find them.
You know, I was doing some figgerin' meeself and found that there is a 100% reduction in Levitational homicides. The department has also just announced that Subterranean and Subaquatic homiceds are also down by 100%. These statististical miracles easily justify J-Flop's early contract renewal. Even more staggering is the announcement that the Detective Division's clearance rate now stands at an all time high of 100% for self-committed homicides.However, homicides committed by ambidextrous, left-footed, cleft palleted, pigmentally-challenged people has sunk to 75%.
Signed: Policy Group (are) Reject(s)
Well I investigate Burglaries in Area 5. I would like a new category for "indoor" burglaries so I don't get shit when I don't solve them.
OK let the jokes begin ....
What happens if the offender is on glue? Can we still arrest them?
hmmmmm.....
If the Police super says he cannot do anything about what happenes "indoors" Where does that leave the law-abiding citizen?
HUH J-side? Nice standard.
Another strong argument for "keep and bear"
If you, Jfed do not own the responsibility to protect citizens, then who does?
The answer is "we the people".
McDonald vs. Chicago
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I think it actually makes quite good sense. He should also make a distinction as to innocent victims versus victims with gang backgrounds. How many truly innocent victims were there in the City of Chicago?
3 WOMEN DEAD IN IN ABANDONED BUILDING ON SOUTH SIDE?!?
LUCKILY WE AS POLICE DONT COUNT THESE TYPE OF CRIMES BECAUSE WE CANT DO ANYTHING.
I WONDER IF THE DICKS SUSPEND HOMICIDES INSIDE ABANDONED BUILDINGS!
THOSE INSIDE BUILDING NUMBERS DONT SOUND SO GREAT NOW DO THEY SUPERINTENDENT BARNEY RUBLE AKA J-FLED!
WHAT A STROKE HIM AND BLINKY B-CUELLO MAKE A WONDERFUL TEAM.
So by your goofy homicide classification, when that nutjob went over to that lawyers office in the loop and started wasting hardworking, never-been-arrested people over a patent, that is less important than a homicide of some jerkoff, career criminal, gangbanger selling dope on a rivals dope spot? Really?? Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo
I agree with Weis. We, as police, have absolutely no control over these savages since the reverends and politicians have made us the "PUSSY Police." Inside, outside, it makes no difference. If you want to kill someone, you're going to kill someone. It's essentially an urban safari for these bangers. Sport.Ruin the morale on the job and no one is going to go out of their way to risk losing their jobs for racial profiling. And if the reverends were honest with themselves, and that's a tall order, they would admit that the killings 90% of the time involve minority gang bangers. We know it to be true but they'll never admit it. So they can go Fuck themselves. Stay safe officers and remember to back each other up and protect your own turf.
there is no difference in murder charge. a murder charge is the same whether it was indoor and outdoors. It is not classified by the law so why does this goof want the public to even care about the distinction. right here is reason alone to fire him and the followers
Even the reverends are seeing through his bull shit. Next he will break it down into poor people and white collar people, then by color. Face it there will be no real outrage until they start killing more suits in the loop. Those people matter. J-Fled the asian carp of law enforcement strikes again. His failed tenure will result in a remake of the 1968riots in the streets. You heard it here first.
Well, at least outdoor home invasions are down.
Hold on a minute, just hold on. So by that logic, that means everyone that died on 11 Sept 01 is an indoor homicide and doesn’t count towards anything. Ha, try telling that to the NYPD, FDNY, PAPD, and America with a straight face.
So if gangbanger shoots from the sidewalk (outdoors) into another gangbangers house ( indoors) and gangbanger dies.... Is that an I door/outdoor catagory? Stupid.
Umm, is there going to be a special category for outdoor home invasions?
So using the tactical officer line of thinking that a theft from auto is a burglary to auto, we can assume that all homicides that take place in an auto are inside, thereby reducing the number of outside homicides even furthur.
BRILLIANT!!!!!!
Coward J-Fled is phonier than a $3 bill. Read my post under "I'll Stay for a Pay Cut".
I don't think it is our job to PREVENT homicides. I am sure we COULD if we wanted to, but some people's feelings might get hurt!
I hear next year they're going to use Longitude & Latitude to decide Homicide categories,. Just like they used the 38th Parallel in Korea. We are in a War Zone aren't we?
I heard they are going to use venacular the people in the "hood" can understand. Hence forth Homicides will be divided into 2 categories "Hot or Mild" and Multiple Homicides will be referred to as "Extra Spicy".
news break:
J-fled OKs guns if they are used indoors. daley agrees.
j-fled initiates third NEW category to homicide:
killed indoors but dumped outdoors
an anov offense
citations shall be issued,
onthefly dumping!
Now that the entire D-Unit has been emasculated, there is nothing more satisfying than looking into the eyes of your schizo-esque Detective Commander and saying. . .
"Sorry Boss, no one wants to help us out on this one". . . "Maybe we'll get lucky, once the ISP is done working it". LMAO.
Where's lunch?
Is it true that if this In & out statistic doesn't work in J-Fleds favor he going to keep looking until it does? Next wiil be weekly comparisons, then will be ambient tempature, daily or hourly, even or odd side of the street. I heard from someone at 35th that he's looking into using the Druid Calendar. Dosen't J-Fled look a little like something from stonhednge?
Does this mean that the UCR coding will be changed to reflect indoor or outdoor homicides?
Well, glad to hear outdoor home invasions are down.
At what point in time did we give the “Reverends” such credibility? Why does anybody care about what some self proclaimed clergy say or think?
It’s been my experience working in the ghetto and watching these “Reverends” operate that they are nothing short of criminals themselves. I believe their only interest is putting on fancy suits, driving Cadillac’s and appearing on TV as much as possible.
The “Reverends” rarely take responsibility for their membership and the only advocating they do is for themselves and what victims they and their followers are.
Why do we cater to the “Reverends” when they do nothing to help any situation unless it helps themselves?
Man shot dead near Fuller Park neighborhood home
May 18, 2010 5:30 PM | No Comments
A 44-year-old man was shot and killed this afternoon near his residence in the South Side's Fuller Park neighborhood, Chicago police said.
The shooting happened about 3:30 p.m. on the 200 block of West 43rd Street.
The victim, Lonzie Suggs, of the 300 block of West 43rd Street, was pronounced dead at 4:24 p.m. at Stroger Hospital, said a spokesman for the Cook County medical examiner's office.
Wentworth Area detectives were conducting the homicide investigation. Further details weren't readily available.
-- Staff report
To properly categorize this crime and thereby supply the City of Chicago and the Chicago Police Department (CPD) with more accurate crime statistics, the Superintendent of Police, using his new "ground breaking statstical record keeping" known as G-BRSRK, also known by the rank and file as GONE BERSERK, announces four new sub-categories for homicides.
The new categories are 1) NOT INSIDE, BUT CLOSE, 2) NOT OUTSIDE, BUT CLOSE and 3) DEAD HERE, BUT KILLED ELSEWHERE. The categorization is determined by the information discovered during the investigation.
A fourth category of KILLED HERE, BUT DUMPED THERE has also been established and is used when notified by an outside agency, via a special phone number of 1-312-SAY WHAT (729-9528), that their investigation has revealed such, however, a quick check reveals the number is disconnected and does not afford a caller the ability to leave a message.
The Superintendent of Police has dedicated his tenure to finding ways of diminishing violent crime in the City of Chicago and will continue his efforts via Accurate And Specific Statistics Without Additional Expenditures (AASSWAE), which is exemplified by his new motto, "No New Hires, Up The Fires, & Don't Replace The Retires!"
The inside/outside thing is a legitimate discussion issue related to murders. I realize that aldermen and reverends aren't criminologists, but every copper knows what this is about.
The problem here is that Weis is clueless and someone probably tried to simplify the concept for him. And after running it through his simplifying-machine this is what came out.
The issue is sound, the issue-r is a dope.
Free Bill Cozzi
"Indoor." "Outdoor." Let's not forget the meaningless catch-all "workplace homicides."
Someone is trying desperately to muddy the waters; that three hundred umpty-ump thousand a year buys a lot of cat food and muscle magazines.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED ON YOUR WATCH, JODY.
Deal wid it.
Keys, who needs keys it's open bar 7am to 2pm. I guess stuff left over from the E2 thing.
God help us...or is he laughing too?
Maybe a post on ideas that never worked:
My favorite..."a paperless department"
Hey, Reverand....Aren't you responsible for teaching your flock morals?
How about homicides on Monday? Homocides on Tuesdays? Homocides in Central Downtown South of Lake Street? Homocides in July? What a bunch of garbage. Take some responsibility and quit trying to twist the stats in your favor. There are ALWAYS going to be murders. Control what you can control......
Leave it to an FBIdiot to change UCR codes at will to meet his needs.
Wonder if Homicides will go by the way of the Burglary; I mean Criminal Tresspass.
I can see the conversation now.
"Gee Sargeant Company-Man we have a Homicide on the street."
"No Officer New-Guy, you see the Victim may have been shot while standing on the street but he was able to stagger into his house where he actually expired. Therefore, under the new policy this is techinally an Inside-Homicide, so it doesn't really count."
"Thanks Sarge, the people in this neighborhood really should get their personal lives in order."
Just when you think the BS can't any deeper they find new ways to keep it coming.
seriously?...indoor/outdoor? yeah, most of the stuff that goes on cannot be prevented, but...how about putting signs on the victims...."indoor/outdoor", or "I deserved it/I was innocent!", or "So what if I was a thug, my mama loved me", or "Blame Bush/Hey, why me, I voted for Obama!"....
Alderman Fredenna Lyles has her hands full doing what?
How about crimes that happen in the parks, and on the streets,in the gangways will he reclassify all this bullshit! what kind of a feeb was he? dumb as a box of rocks, but we bet daley keeps this lapdog,at a $150,000+ pay cut,as this feeb and all his friends get on board to collect another gold star juicy pension along with the huge feeb pension they all collect! wtf is masters boy wonder been up to? hanging with huberman still?
I can see it now. Box 1,
Homicide/Murder/Inside. Homicide/Murder/Outside.
We can have homicide teams who handle the inside jobs and teams who handle the outside murders.
Of course during the winter it would be better to be an inside detective as it is usually about 105 degrees inside some of these roach infested hovels and you will not freeze your ass off. But you will itch.
Conversely, being an outside detective has advantages also. In the summer you will be on the scene of a murder and have about 5000 grieving citizens who have seen nothing assisting you and urging you to remove the body as to not disrespect the deceased, who happens to be a star athlete and drug runner.
Lastly, I can't imagine which idiot thinks up stuff like this. The air at HQ must be very thin and underwear too tight.
I can only think of one song that would apply to these morons and that would be an old Judy Collins tune whose last words are "send in the clowns"............don't bother, they're here."
Maybe J-Fled should think about what the clear by arrest rate is for homicides, maybe two catagories as well, inside and outside clear arrest rate.With the present decline of working Homicide Detectives on the street and no approved overtime what gets done. Just reports that say on-going investigation .What a joke, J-Fled
Somehow this brings to mind the expression of,
"leaving your ass hanging in the wind."
Somehow with J-Fled that fits.
The problem facing the Chicago Police Department is simple.
The mayor counts on black votes to put down any reasonable white or hispanic challenger.
And Chicago is running out of black voters.
Please get on the streets and stop these homicides. The life you save will save Daley's job in 2011.
"We will now classify indoor homicides as HOMEicides"; Judy Weis
Inside murders should be the easiest to control, the murderer usually has already been identified.
Enforce OOP more actively.
Force violators of OOP to relocate to another state or deport them.
Relocate all of them, in cases where whole families of drug dealers and dope fiends try to force, usually women into what amounts to modern day slavery, by trying to force them to stay in abusive relationships that are usually generations of welfare thieves looking for someone to support them financially now that welfare has kicked them off the lifelong welfare rolls.
These last comments really make j-Fled look like a moron.
Indoor murders don't count anymore?! Well Chicago this is what you get for $310,000 a year and the highest paid police officer in the country, a man who comes up with "indoor" and "outdoor" murders. Wow that’s brilliant!! Chicago has seen a huge increase in homicides and we have a man at the top who wants to argue the ...finer points of murder instead of facing the problem head on. He's like a real-estate agent now LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION!
I was just at Walmart, did you know that they had live ammo on the shelves with the "Price Drop" smiley face? They're now advertised as indoor ammo. I asked about the difference and was told that the outdoor ammo is shelved over in the "outdoor garden" section. He also said that the outdoor ammo is priced a smidge higher because of the new Chicago catagory. I was also told not to worry because the Price Drop Smiley Face will alternate sections through out the summer into early fall. Then hunting season will begin and the Smiley Face will go to the Cutlery section. Way to go, Walmart! Cutting edge.
just when i thought this guy couldnt get any goofier. go away jody
Daley says top cop should consider pay cut.
Let the de-balling begin.
What if victim is laying across doorway threshold?
Indoor=.5? Outdoor=.5?
Or move body inside so it won't count as "real" murder, wink wink?
Be very prudent of J-Fled to have all dead bodies moved indoors and be done forever with that petulent Outdoor crime.
Only then he could become popular.
Citizens would beg for raise for J-Fled instead of J-Fled begging for pay cut.
What if somebody shoots from inside and it hits somebody outside? How about bodies in cars? If it's in a Winnebego-type vehicle that has a bathroom, is it now indoors? If the trunk is open is in an innie or an outie?
These are the questions 35th Street can now start pondering.
J-Fake, stop pleading for your miserable job. You are out, man.
I think that J-Fled was inspired by the Exempts indiscretions which happened indoors and were forgiven. Ruth at the airport: Indoors. Masters on New Years Eve: Indoors. Bea's Condo:Indoors. Henny Penny's order of protection:Indoors. Mike Mette in Iowa: outdoors, 90 days. J-Fled is only extending his policy further.
Are three dead in a trunk of a car considered indoor homicides or outdoor homicides ? Do we have to count them ?
Weis, you are a complete idiot. Just STFU. You are further embarrassing yourself and the uniform.
if a person is killed in the front doorway of their residence would this be an inside or outside statistic?
Dead IS dead!
Remember when we would drag the body outside the tavern. Because if 79-11 applied; the Lt had to come out.
Sooo...
If somebody shot and killed the shit out of somebody else in a port-a-potty then what in the fast flyin' fuck can you call that?
Again, the smartest exempt cadre in the history of CPD have the answers.
The stuff they come up with is funner than watching the monkeys at the zoo chase each other around flinging shit... Same thing, same results.
The one car funeral that has been the state of CPD has finally been fucked up.
And of course the media is front and center cheerleading this nonsense!
No wonder the G doesn't honor Chicago crime stats...
what if someone gets shot outside and run inside. Do we need to determined this before we get a RD#. WHERE did the homicide occcured. inside or outside. Sgt i cannot determine indoor or outdoor.
I like the idea. Next time I'm confronted by an inspector about staying too long at my lunch location, I'll just tell him I'm keeping the indoor homicide rate down.
So the 3 bodies in the trunk of the avalon.......are they outdoor homicides because the car was outside.......or are they indoor homicides because tghe bodies were inside.....inside the car that is. Hmmmmmm....another dilema for j_fled
5/19/2010 12:50:00 AM
hotel/motel?
He can take the biggest paycut ever...he can pay the city for the priviledge of being supt...that isn't going to make him any more competent. Indoor and outdoor homicides??!!! Does that mean that a person is less dead being shot outside as opposed to inside? Wasn't aware that there are different degrees of dead. Kind of like reducing burglaries by writing them up as CTTP( Criminal Tresspass To Property)? Good God...how much worse can this get.
How about hiring more detectives? Some could be assinged to indoor crime and some could be assigned to outdoor crime. Besides HGS and RBT we will have Indoor (IND) and Outdoor (OUT). The will need additional Lts., Sgts and dics to handle these new units.
just sayin not axin
what if someone gets shot outside and run inside. Do we need to determined this before we get a RD#. WHERE did the homicide occcured. inside or outside. Sgt i cannot determine indoor or outdoor.
I heard they are going to use venacular the people in the "hood" can understand. Hence forth Homicides will be divided into 2 categories "Hot or Mild" and Multiple Homicides will be referred to as "Extra Spicy".
5/19/2010 08:56:00 AM
LOL and can't stop
So what's he saying? If the police can't help inside the house, maybe the residents/occupants need a gun.....to protect themselves....geeez JFled going against shorty.....
Its the G spin. Its all big BS. They're great at turning the facts around. He sounds just like 42-short.
I wonder!!! When you are murdered INSIDE your car does J-Fled consider than an "inside" murder?
Or under you umbrella?
Of if your wearing a big hat?
Or walking under a viaduct?
Just wondering.....
Hmmm I think he's starting to stutter too..... so much for playing poker.
God save the king
"from now on, anyone murdered in a house will be identified as a HOMEICIDE"... Judy Weis
5/19/2010 12:26:00 AM
HOME-ICIDE....Priceless.
What happens if the offender is on glue? Can we still arrest them?
THIS IS THE BEST FUCKING LINE I'VE HEARD IN A WHILE. I LAUGHED OUT LOUD!!!
ASA's will no longer be approving felony charges on persons who commit murders inside a home. They just won't be able to prove they had intent to kill anyone else who might be outside. As long as they left the murder weapon inside it's misdemeanor charges for murder.
Anonymous said...
What happens if the offender is on glue? Can we still arrest them?
5/19/2010 07:20:00 AM
Yes, unless he first says "Ollie Ollie Oxen Free Free Free" first. Then you can double dare him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
it's really simple mathmatics: cold outside = indoor homicides.
hot outside = outdoor homicides.
The real solution is blame Tom Skilling.
5/19/2010 12:25:00 AM
You had better not mess with Tom Skilling!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgiZvE7iWhI
About 1:40 into the video watch how Tom deals with people who mess with him!
When I used to watch B.J. & Dirty Dragon and The Muppets,I'd never imagine working for the bastard son of Weird and Ms Piggies whore sister. Come to think of it Shortshanks is starting to look/sound like Blob. I wish I could change the channel.
Alderman Fredenna Lyles has her hands full doing what?
5/19/2010 11:26:00 AM
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Sifting through the shit in her toilet to find her brain.
"Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, I Love My Job, but My Boss is A Fool"
PS: Have A Nice Day ?????
If a bear shits in the woods and nobody sees it does it still smell?
ye old irish says:
in again
out again
finnigin
we can assume that all homicides that take place in an auto are inside, thereby reducing the number of outside homicides even furthur.
BRILLIANT!!!!!!
new category: autocide
Alderman Fredenna Lyles has her hands full doing what
Praying-praying that her constituents are dumb enough to re elect her.
It's because when a homicide occurs under the circumstances like the recent homicide/suicide incident, Brett's chase the dots GIS program wasn't designed around such incidents, and it messes up the color dots so by classifying them as indoor Brett doesn't put plug them in otherwise that house would be red and you would have TRU MSF SOS HBT and the district bike unit addressing it as a hot spot.
Is this the same concept as having an innie or outie belly button?
How about right-handed and left-handed stats?
J-FLED SAYS:
Outdoor Homicides are mostly committed by offenders wearing clothes...
Anonymous said...
At what point in time did we give the “Reverends” such credibility? Why does anybody care about what some self proclaimed clergy say or think?
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The irony here is that the left always scream when Republicans talk about God, family and country. Here in Chicago they embrace the clergy and pay them homage and for what? If the left wants to remind conservative Republicans about the separation of church and state, they should practice it here in Chicago.
perp is shot while walking in? What categorey? 1/2 & 1/2? Innie or Outtie?
5/19/2010 12:08:00 AM
What's a perp?
I heard they are going to use venacular the people in the "hood" can understand. Hence forth Homicides will be divided into 2 categories "Hot or Mild" and Multiple Homicides will be referred to as "Extra Spicy".
5/19/2010 08:56:00 AM
A lot of these comments made me laugh, but you made me laugh, cry and near piss my pants!
BWAA-HAHAHAHAHA!
Maximum LOL-age @ 08:52:00 PM!
Ohhhh man are you going back some years!
Ca. 1970
Ch. 32? WFLD-TV? Cartoon Town?
Come to think of it you're right... The more shortshanks stutters, farts, mumbles and shakes on TV the more he DOES look and sound like the Blob!
j-fled as the son of Weird aka "The Lemon Joke Kid?"
Actually we were thinking more like the son of Maynard Thumbtwanger but good enough!
Bea as Mother Plumtree?
Duggie as the Ol' Professor?
michaela mistress as B.J. (gawd, how appropriate!) gloriously arrayed in loud, cheesy, funky, fruity suits (that would make your middle-aged eyes water) with the matching derby and spats??
...Thanks for for the laugh and a trip down memory lane!
Spilled the beverage... Truly alcohol abuse!
So using the tactical officer line of thinking that a theft from auto is a burglary to auto, we can assume that all homicides that take place in an auto are inside, thereby reducing the number of outside homicides even furthur.
Where do you work? it's not tac line of thinking it's called the law, enter unlawfully with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein= Burglary
Marquette dinosaur said...
Remember when we would drag the body outside the tavern. Because if 79-11 applied; the Lt had to come out.
5/19/2010 05:42:00 PM
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You're good. I only remember the replacement, 86-2 I think?
Reverends want everyone to take responsibility for what their people do to each other EXCEPT their own people! Complete and total lack of any personal responsibility for the mayhem visited on their neighborhoods, it is everyone else's fault but not theirs as religious community leaders and not theirs as parents and neighbors and not the offenders themselves, no, it is the fault of jody weis and the police department.
What a crock of shit and a complete waster of humanity.
They will now do the hotel/motel rule for bodies in vehicles. Multiple bodies in one vehicle counts as one homicide.
"Remember when we would drag the body outside the tavern. Because if 79-11 applied; the Lt had to come out."
Back in Da Day, your Lt was already there before you even arrived. He'd lend a hand with the draggin' so he could go back in for another round of water shots.
He should never have gone public with this nonsense, but he is absolutely right and any cop worth his wait in gold knows it too; there is no way we can prevent what happens behind closed doors, we really can't prevent what happens outside, unless we happen to be on-scene when it happens, if someone wants to kill they will kill, by whatever means they have at their disposal; he was stating the obvious, but in this city, where it always somebody elses fault it will hang him. As the good reverend said," we hold the police reponsible", instead of holding themselves responsible. He's a goner......
5/19/2010 03:37:00 AM
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I once told my old Sgt. that there were just some bad guys you can't catch. He went nuts. Said you could catch anybody. No, I don't think so. We only catch the dumb and the slow, really.
Anonymous said...
What happens if the offender is on glue? Can we still arrest them?
5/19/2010 07:20:00 AM
Yes, unless he first says "Ollie Ollie Oxen Free Free Free" first. Then you can double dare him.
5/19/2010 08:10:00 PM
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VERY NICE! HAHAHA !
ATTENTION:
THIS JUST IN:
Outdoor Crim Trespass to Residence are WAAAAYYYYY DOOOWWWWNNNN this year.
CARRY ON.
Are three dead in a trunk of a car considered indoor homicides or outdoor homicides ? Do we have to count them ?
5/19/2010 04:17:00 PM
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The onus is on the dead guy to show by preponderance of the evidence that he was indeed killed outside. Until then, he was killed inside a house somewheressss. 19P.
"If a bear shits in the woods and nobody sees it does it still smell?"
Only if you're blind and the bear is using your face as a toilet.
How about if a gang member kills another gang member its called, turf death not a homicide.and it only counts as one less gang member in the shity city. I/F
How about,
If it is a real person instead of a gang banging thug, streetwalker or other person who voluntarily places themselves in the funnel, it counts.
I bet weis kicks ass in scrabble, the way he comes up with new terminoLogy?! Hey Jody, you play Uno?
To 5/20/2010 01:33:00 PM
Dude, it is so wrong to be thinking about the dead guy's onus---I'm just saying......
I attended a ceremony Sunday 5/23/10 at 35th St. for presentation of CPD star identification name plates, line of duty death from the old star case to families of some of the officers.
Weis showed up for a very short time and it was very disappointing to see that he came there wearing a red t-shirt. Gee, would it have been too much for him to at least wear a shirt and tie?
But, I guess that is all that Weis thinks of CPD personnel.
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