Disaster Preparedness
Remember the disaster drills held last week? A report from on-scene:
- One of the drills was supposed to be a CTA bombing/derailment w/chemical weapons discharge, I think along the Brown line. Now, this thing has been in the planning for over a year, but someone must not have run it past the stuttering prick, because he apparently found out about it when the press releases came out and he went ape shit. Flat out REFUSED to allow the National Guard to come into his city in uniform, or with weapons. The Guard CBRN units (that handle chemical biological & nuclear incidents) were told if they wanted to go observe the exercise, they had to do so in civlian attire.
SO there ya go: your safety jepordized because Daley doesn't want soldiers in the City. Never mind that the drills were designed to prepare us for the worst and save lives. Someone might have seen a soldier and thought they were called to quell the 4 most violent districts in America or something. And we can't have that!
Public safety - Shortshanks style!
Not only won't Daley have a necessary component of first responders trained, now the citizens he's supposed with serving are nothing more than canaries along with the Police Department. Seems like it's going to be every man, woman and child for themselves.
UPDATE: In light of this story last night, how stupid does Shortshanks look in regard to public safety?
Now imagine that was a bomb or a gas canister and you're working TO-SPOT with little-to-no disaster preparedness training.
Not only won't Daley have a necessary component of first responders trained, now the citizens he's supposed with serving are nothing more than canaries along with the Police Department. Seems like it's going to be every man, woman and child for themselves.
UPDATE: In light of this story last night, how stupid does Shortshanks look in regard to public safety?
- Chicago firefighters extinguished a track fire in the Red Line subway north of the Chicago Avenue station this afternoon, officials said. At least 19 people were taken to area hospitals, five of them seriously injured, a Fire Department spokesman said.
Five people were being taken to area hospitals in serious-to-critical condition; three were taken in fair-to-serious condition; and 11 were transported in fair-to-good condition, according to Fire Department spokesman [...].
The victims were being treated for smoke inhalation at hospitals including Northwestern Memorial and Stroger Hospital of Cook County, [...]. All of those who were seriously injured were adults,...
Now imagine that was a bomb or a gas canister and you're working TO-SPOT with little-to-no disaster preparedness training.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
43 Comments:
But yet daley burke and the treasurer (who be that girl) the 1 stephanie neely who is trying to sue our pension board protector, due to her getting huge campaign donations,while she gives our pension fund monies to her cronies! Huge bodyguard details for all of them, do they has "escape routes" so the protected idiots can escape?
Just like when the Mayor flipped out about CPD SWAT patrolling in the airports in their BDUs with rifles after 9.11, the bombings in London, Madrid and even now after the underwear bomber and the Times Square incident.
Hey Fran---You say the Mayor hates you (that's what you told Northen) do some verifying and write a story about this.
What do they do with all of our Homeland Security Tax money?
Besides pay for outdated, Panasonic Toughbooks.
the radical muslims are smiling.
As a CERT volunteer, I know our city is woefully unprepared for any disaster. My best advice to anyone who has a family is to make your own plans, get your own gear, and look out for close friends and family.
In a disaster the south and west sides will go up for grabs once the element figures out what's going on, and they will burn, loot, and move north. Make sure you are ready to repel them, or get the hell out of dodge. Expect clogged expressways, a terrible police response (what police? they have families too), CFD will be overwhelmed, and general pandemonium will ensue.
Why anyone fails to realize this for what it is, is beyond me.
What is the political purpose of preventing training or soldiers in a drill? Oak Lawn participated.
What is the matter with this man?
---not a cop
What do they do with all of our Homeland Security Tax money?
Wouldn't strings come along with the Homeland money or do they only get nice vans and equipment to play with?
If tax dollars are being doled out, as a taxpayer I would demand that the recipient city of that money prove that it is going where it is supposed to go, namely, training.
Shortshanks is an idiot. We cant have any protection from anything in this town because he wont go for anything that isnt his idea.
Handguns ? No, those are no good. National Guard ? No, not a good idea. Planter boxes of flowers on Randolph ? Yea, good idea !
Hundreds of millions of federal dollars are sent here each year to help enhance our abilities to prevent, deter, detect and respond to terrorist attacks, critical incidents and other disasters. Where is that money?
No one seems to care that Daley spends that money on other venues. Venues he sees fit for spending. Nothing even remotely related to or dealig with the original and intended use. No one says a word.
Hundreds of millions of dollars gone! It's OUR safety at risk. It's OUR lives on the line-both citizens as well as First Responders. No one seems to care.
The culture of corruption continues, unchecked, in Chicago. New York maintains a police force of 40,000 strong. We seem to feel we can do it with a fraction of the 13,500 the city is funded for-by the federal govt.
Enough is enough!
Listened to some of the transmission of this incident on the radio. It was a mess.
Talked to one of the B&A guys who responded. He said the scene was even worse...nobody knew who was doing what, no communication between CPD & CFD, people running all over. People, we're f*cked if something the magnitude of Madrid, 9-11 or London happens.
Hhhhmmmmm......let's see:
1. Daley refuses to let National Guard part take in the disaster drills.
2. The city FINALLY decides to put police in the transit tunnels but only affords them 4 HOURS of classroom training which is, BTW, the MINIMUM of which the Feds said was needed if they wanted the federal money for the program.
3. Daley is more concerned about the bottom line rather than protecting the citizens of Chicago. Example: more cameras are being installed instead of more police being hired.
Then, god forbid, the unthinkable happens. Several explosive devices are planted and set off on subway trains.
Daley's reaction?
Why, it will be his patenate catch phrase: I didn't know.
REMEMBER WHEN daley REFUSED TO ALLOW SWAT TO OPENLY CARRY RIFLES IN THE AIRPORTS? It had something to do with imagery and the fact that he does not wear the pants in his clan.
CANT DENY NG UNITS DURING A REAL INCIDENT. ID LUV TO SEE DALEY TRY TO DO THIS. THE NEXT TERRORISM ON THE ORDER OF 9-11 WILL BRING ABOUT MARTIAL LAW. POS WILL BE IN CHARGE OF NG UNITS ON TITLE 10 ORDERS
daley is out of touch worries about legal guns but not the shitheads what a crack pot and places the city and your family at risk
Once I was on scene for a minor train derailment with only one person sustaining minor injuries. I have to say it was a major Cluster F. Up, way to many different chiefs giving the little indians conflicting orders. They should write a order on who takes charge by doing a best 2 out of 3 rock, paper, and scissors tournament(Amendment A-I.-NO RINGERS). Can't imagine if a attack did happened.
I suggest that if you are ever in the city limits of Chicago, and you hear a loud "boom" or "crash" whether you are in a tall building, or in the Subway....You should immediately take action! Put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye!!!
Mayor Daley's minions will read your name off a memorial list on the next anniversary of the event.
If this is the extent of the training in Chicago, we are doomed...Maybe we can watch another streaming video at roll call...
LOL! A FIRECRACKER! ONE FIRECRACKER IS ALL IT TOOK!
Wow, this city is screwed!
Someone in the daley crime family already has the no-bid contract to print the list of dead chicagoans to be read by daley minions on the anniversary of the event.
Anonymous said...
REMEMBER WHEN daley REFUSED TO ALLOW SWAT TO OPENLY CARRY RIFLES IN THE AIRPORTS? It had something to do with imagery and the fact that he does not wear the pants in his clan.
6/21/2010 01:18:00 PM
Immediately after 9/11 the US Coast Guard was patrolling the lakefront with a machine gun mounted on their boats. Visible and obvious. They were directed to keep at least one armed boat near Navy Pier (filtration plant) at all times.
That didn't last long. The security people of Navy Pier demanded they stop that shit. Might scare away tourists paying too much for the crap sold out there.
The USCG is a branch of the US Military! And they were being told how to do combat patrol by the idiot stupid fucks in Chicago. That is the same mayor who complained that Minnie and Mickey got a No Fly zone before he did.
Result: The Coast Guard took their boats away from obvious public view and removed the guns. They probably didn't realize daley had a gun ban in Chicago.
Also, no private boats at all were allowed to dock in that finger of water between Navy Pier and the Jardine Filtration plant.
Except for one.
The private yacht Blackhawk; owned by Dollar Bill Wirtz. He complained and was given special dispensation.
The Blackhawk was allowed to dock in that forbidden zone.
It's the Chicago Way.
Can anyone say "deliberate indifference?" Shortshanks, the city, J-Fled and anyone else who's name goes with "public safety" is now wide open to a title 1983 civil lawsuit for failure to train. Some of those people injured in the fire in the subway should start getting their lawyers lined up and make room in the piggy bank for a huge payout by the city and CTA.
I'll bet that more than a couple of those "19 hospitalized" were on the phone with their lawyer while still in the am-boo-lance.
Anyone who ever works the TOSPOT overtime detail when it is up and running is a complete fucking moron. They tell you in the class that the attack is emminent (sorry if spelled wrong)and you are basically there to die. Use your heads people...
Shortshanks is an idiot. We cant have any protection from anything in this town because he wont go for anything that isnt his idea.
Handguns ? No, those are no good. National Guard ? No, not a good idea. Planter boxes of flowers on Randolph ? Yea, good idea !
6/21/2010 08:03:00 AM
We don't need any protection silly. We have the Mafia! The 26th Street crew has everything under control so you just don't worry about nuthin.
"What is the political purpose of preventing training or soldiers in a drill? Oak Lawn participated.
What is the matter with this man?
---not a cop
6/21/2010 07:30:00 AM"
he's not a man, he's a creature.
what kind of creature?
pick a pejorative, any pejorative.
hell, all pejoratives.
And this isnt major news???? WoW how about the 15 man detail on sgts pay??? Dont they have guns??? BTW the detail is a sham of clout babies that cant really protect the mayor. Saw one of the ear plugs looking at his blackberry for over 10min while daley was about to walk out of a venue. They also do the dry cleaning run and other minor chores for the guy and his wife. Some security
The conductor reported smoke coming out of the tunnel and their operations center sent them thru it anyway. There are no effective communications or evacuation plans in place. I blame not only the CTA but also the OEMC. They have a whole bureaucracy of people whose sole purpose is emergency management. Yet we have no plans that anyone knows of.
There is No Plan Here So dont sleep easy and think your safe. Prepare for the worst We are Overdue for something and Shitcago is a target. Its Obamas home town what a story that would make
Fuck Daley and the overpriviledged irish mob.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the Daley family has a deep 'political aversion' to the NG involving itself with the CPD since the clusterfuck at the 1968 DNC / Grant Park.
Instead of doing what's right for the city, he instead chose the 'politically correct' maneuver.
God forbid a major terrorist event ever takes place here and supplemental forces from the NG are required to keep things in order, only now, without adequate training and proactive logistical planning because Mayor Daley was afraid of offending a few idiots.
Note to Daley: I, a citizen of Chicago, feel SUBSTANTIALLY SAFER when I see National Guard, in Uniform, training to help me and my family in the event bad things happen. I, a citizen of Chicago, feel SUBSTANTIALLY SAFER if SWAT officers who are tasked to patrol critical city areas are allowed to carry their weapons in a state of semi-readiness. A lot of citizens just like me feel this way. Probably most of us.
Sincerely
-- Hegewisch Electronics Geek
"Some security
6/21/2010 08:23:00 PM"
we can only hope you're right.
"we will be attacking U.S."
- Faisal Shahzad, the man who pleaded guilty Monday to carrying out the failed Times Square car bombing.
But don't worry, Chicago "has plans."
One of the most chilling videos I've seen on terrorism is on HBO called "Terror in Mumbai"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y8d6p7o
The not too shocking thing is, given
the state of emergency management in Chicago, an almost exact incident could happen in Chicago as it did in Mumbai.
As I've watched this film a number of times, it strikes me how this would play out if you changed a few locations, and names, and we'd have the same thing happening here in Chicago.
173 people were killed in Mumbai, and hundreds more were injured, Daley would have to sell Chicago off like East St. Louis did in the 1970's to pay off all the claims for ineptitude at all levels of city government in Chicago.
sc911 said...
The conductor reported smoke coming out of the tunnel and their operations center sent them thru it anyway. There are no effective communications or evacuation plans in place. I blame not only the CTA but also the OEMC. They have a whole bureaucracy of people whose sole purpose is emergency management. Yet we have no plans that anyone knows of.
6/21/2010 08:56:00 PM
You are dense. OEMC, and any other city department for that matter, does, or doesn't do, as the shanks tells them. You are placing blame at the wrong rung on the ladder of city government.
If the shanks wanted effective communications and evacuation plans in-place, it would have been done long, long ago.
Open your eyes, he is a dictator with a death-grip on ALL of city government. All is as he wants all to be. Ask him about it, not OEMC.
One of the most chilling videos I've seen on terrorism is on HBO called "Terror in Mumbai"
What's more chilling is that the attack was planned and financed at Devon & California
A 017 M-4 qualified sgt takes his rifle on foot patrol with him. In full police uniform the yuppies and liberals in 017 call saying there is a man with a gun. Same sgt that got critized by varuious citizens at the PR fest for harassment by being armed with the rifle. This was the night where 3-4 people were shot by the park. Don't attack the police but attack the problem.If the NG was allowed to participate, it would of shown everyone that the city is not prepared. If daley doesn't allowed it then it doesn't come up. I will not sign up for TOSPOT JUST FOR THAT VERY REASON. there is an attack coming and it will not be good.
Face the facts Shortshanks!! Afghanistan and Iraq are safer places to be than Chicago. Face the fact that the Police Department is so undermanned that it can not effectively combat what is happening. Last, but not least....swallow whatever pride you have left and ASK FOR HELP before something really serious happens. I am safe and so is my family. I wish the citizens in Chicago could say the same.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And this isnt major news???? WoW how about the 15 man detail on sgts pay??? Dont they have guns??? BTW the detail is a sham of clout babies that cant really protect the mayor. Saw one of the ear plugs looking at his blackberry for over 10min while daley was about to walk out of a venue. They also do the dry cleaning run and other minor chores for the guy and his wife. Some security
6/21/2010 08:23:00 PM
15 double that, add in burkes 8, + stephanie neelys the treasurer lapa detail with 7 more all at d-3 pay!
Chicago is FUCKED is anything even remotely large occurs here.
Daley is playing with fire and the entire future of Chicago.
Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans showed a big reason against residency. The first responders are in the effected area and would possibly be injured in the initial incident. Your "First Responders" will also be "First Casualties."
But on the other hand if Police and Fire personnel lived out in the burbs, who to say that if an incident occurred in the city they would not respond, especially if it was nuke or dirty bomb?
"The conductor reported smoke coming out of the tunnel and their operations center sent them thru it anyway. There are no effective communications or evacuation plans in place."
--6/21/2010 08:56:00 PM
Uh...thse trains are sealed and air-conditioned. Couldn't you shut off the a/c on the train -- no air /smoke being sucked in -- just while the train traversed such an area?
Duh.
@ Shawn-
I actually have some business interests in the Mumbai metro and have a web designer who works there.
The terrorist attack there was very, very bad for a number of reasons- chiefly, it was well thought out and executed (and anyone in the cop business is damn well footed to study the hell out of that event, since god forbid something like that happen here)- but the biggest problem they encountered, which any Mumbai resident will openly tell you, is that their tactical units were a joke, totally unprepared for 'real world bad guys'.
It seems a lot of Indias "tactical units" are like this. They run around, shoot off a lot of ammo, do jumping jacks and choose their teams based on who can holler the best "ooh-rah" and grow the bushiest mustache. At the end of the day, though, WTSHTF, they are unable to perform and effect the needed outcome.
Thankfully, we in the west have 'the real deal' to respond to stuff like this in terms of SWAT and tactical teams- India learned the hard way that impotent 'drills', 'maneuvers' and a shiny new MP5 does not a SWAT team make.
My understanding of how Daley neuters the CPD, yes, the police here are better trained in Chicago than Mumbai, but Maggie doesn't want M-4's in the squad cars.
Pretty much the same reason there isn't a real police presence at O'Hare, Daley figures FBI/DHS will take the lead.
Sadly, any major Mumbai like incident that does happen in Chicago will run out like the North Hollywood shootout in 1997, only difference is, CPD won't be able to run to the gun store and 'borrow' the M-16's to take out the threat.
@ Shawn: I know. It's a disgrace. We citizens of Chicago really need to step up and insist that our officers- who are properly trained to use and operate them- are permitted to carry long guns. It's insane that we don't allow them this common sense law enforcement tool in an urban environment like this.
Seriously, if any planners in the Chicago Police Department are still reading this, please take Shawns advice and look into developing an intelligent plan for responding to something like the Mumbai attacks. India made a shit-ton of mistakes to learn from. Without a clear-cut plan of how to isolate and engage well armed assholes fanned out across the city bent on causing death and destruction, the whole thing turns into a wild-west clusterfuck and lots of good people needlessly die before the bad-guys are taken out.
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