Eight Hours in School?
What's not to like, some parents and local school council members said about the Chicago Public Schools' proposal for a pilot eight-hour day at 100 struggling elementary schools.
But some educators said the plan won't work.
Of course it won't. The Teachers Union would never go for this, not without massive increases in pay.
Unionized teachers slammed the proposal, which CPS says would use computers, software and non-teachers to supervise the extra two hours.
"To put an uncertified person in front of students should not be called education, that is called baby-sitting," Chicago Teachers Union President Marilyn Stewart charged.
Same thing with the CPS engineers, maintenance, janitors. This is another "smoke and mirror" proposal that hints at possible changes without anything substantial behind it. Kind of like Shortshanks touting 44 extra cops on the street in the face of a thousand retirements this year alone.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
36 Comments:
OT: Here's a story for all of you racist hockey fans;
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/many-minority-neighborhoods-immune-to-hawks-fever.html
How dare you enjoy something that is not enjoyed by the citizens of the ghetto? I refuse to go to another hockey game until there is a good that I or a family member will become a victim of a crime during the game.
Chicago Public Schools have pne of the shortest school days in the country. Teachers who don't have to live in the city want to get an early jump on traffic when commuting to Maywood or Bellwood or Markham, whatever. We lock these out of control hoodlums up. Can you imagine having to be unarmed in a school FULL of them??? I'd wanna boogie outta there too!
could someone explain the difference between education and babysitting in regards to CPS?
sorry, you could be albert einstein and the most you would be able to teach some of these people is how to spell their name.... 8 hours, 16 hours, still a babysitting service.....
Shortshanks and the rest of the DubmocRAT libtards won't settle until they have a National Socialist or Communist style youth movement that is programmed by the state to turn in parents and any others who dare question the authority of the state to run all aspects of life.
Big government is the death of freedom. Remember that the next time you want them to handle the business you should handle yourselves.
Being a teacher is a tough job, but they are well compensated for being part-time employees.
The LiberaL reptiLes have infested our schooL systems and universaties. As such is where they are entrenched, to indoctrinate and recruit there forces. They conduct a phiLosophy of Trotsky to impose a coLLective government authority. They caLL themseLves Progressives. Which is nothing more then a congLomerate of SociaLism... Marxism...Communism. These reptiLLians presentLy reside on the throne.
Don't bash the teachers.
As 12:25 said, imagine going into those places unarmed everyday for 30 years. The teachers are now learning what it's like to become scapegoats. Even POTUS Hussein has turned on them recently because nobody can speak the truth about the problem. In reality, about 20% of the kids in the system have some potential...which means that 80% are hopeless.
This is the result of 75 years of liberalism blended with 173 years of political corruption.
A friend who teaches at reconstituted Harper HS said that "more than half" the kids come to school "high" in the morning.
Another friend's daughter is a middle-grade CPS teacher, despite that daughter's unregulated bipolar condition, habitual drug-taking, and gangbanger-drug dealer ex-con husband disruptive household. Certainly not a role-model, hardly a competent teacher, yet gainfully employed by CPS for past decade. Guess you need only to be a "breathing bachelor-degree graduate" to teach at CPS.
CPS is a haven for underperforming teachers enjoying the shortest school day possible, for a 8-month work-year. (With exception of those three gold-plated prep schools, of course)
could someone explain the difference between education and babysitting in regards to CPS?
6/04/2010 12:34:00 AM
Free meals.
Time for year-round school with 3 week breaks in April, August, and December. Also increase the school day to 7 hours.
As for the teachers union talking about baby sitters, what do they think they are now?
Anonymous said...
... I refuse to go to another hockey game until there is a good that I or a family member will become a victim of a crime during the game.
6/04/2010 12:12:00 AM
Could happen with Philadelphia fans
I get home in the morning and the kids at the middle school across the street from my home are getting to school (0800 hrs). About the time I am getting up (1330 hrs) the buses are lining up and the kids are leaving school. I seem to remember school starting at 0730 and getting out at 1500 when I went to school. 5 1/2 hour school day (plus the teachers get one hour off in the day)? This is just laziness on the part of the teachers...they don't even want to try anymore.
non-teachers are to CPS what tsa's and civillian meter maids are to CPD....a 2 teir, union busting inroad.
We'd rather the little darlings have their asses in school year round if at all possible.
Make 'em too tired to be lollygaggin' & bullshittin' and keep 'em that way.
The problem is that there is no fear and terror based incentive to not fuck-off/fuck-up/fuck-around/fuck it up...
Too resolutely ignorant to avail themselves of a gift that some children in other parts of the world would kill for... A free education from the ages of 5 to 17.
Whoops, sorry! Usually the parent(s) have to give a fuck to have lit the appropriate temperature of fire under the little ass for proper motivation.
All smoke and mirrors. Check out Dunbar HS in 021. Old Mrs. Smith's detention room is more crowded than the standing room section at a Hawks game. The students serve their detention during regular school hours. In other words, they miss their classes to serve out their detention and our taxes are paying for this. WTF! Jessie's PUSH and Obama's home are in 021. Stop by Dubar sometime guys and have a look. Surely you can CHANGE this. Shortshanks and Luberman won't. JFLED and Masters, Masters, Masters couldn't care less. They just drive by everyday to/from HQ. Very few, if any, parents are around/involved. 2170 says,
"Squad, let me have an event # for a premise check at Dunbar" and "Show me headin' down to Dunbar for they dismissal and send me 2174, 2112, and 2122." This is every f*cking school day. I couldn't make this sh*t up if I tried. Visit Dunbar or listen to Zone 5 and see/hear for this for yourself.
i can recall when teachers were on strike years ago and the nephews and kids of old country turkeys were scabbing inside the schools as stationary engineers and were real shitty to coppers if cops wanted to use their washrooms in the basement. we got even by calling them scab bitches and they called their union, we told union guys if they came out to the schhol we would lock them up, they never came out lol.
sounds like another huberman plan that NEVER works and costs millions of dollars we do not have.
i really cant wait till february 2011
Their only in school, when they show up, six hours a day now !!! Once upon a time the school day was eight hours !
You are 100% correct about the teacher's union. I think it would be better for our society; kids in school, lower daycare costs, safe environment. But the odds of that happening with the union are slim to none.
Some "skool" districts are slowly moving to a four-day school week.
The municipalities claim it "saves money". Naturally they change the subject when the question of all these "unmonitored" young people are walking around because there's no one @ home. In most families, both parents work full-time jobs, and that doesn't address the astounding numbers of single-parent households that are evident in every community.
But the Teachers Union LOVES the idea...now teachers get a three-day weekend every week.
America is one of the few counties that STILL embraces the bullshit concept of three months off in the Summer.
The majority of states in the US still work off the 9-month schedule.
You think the CPD is backwards and inefficient? Open your eyes and look at your local schools.
All that ca$h, and where are the results?
When you visit your kids' school, notice how all the teachers have smiles on their faces.
That's because they know they have their hands in your pockets, and there isn't a fucking thing you're going to do about it.
Make juvy court part of the CPS high school volunteer service requirement.
Bless the beasts and the children.
Anonymous said...
OT: Here's a story for all of you racist hockey fans;
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/many-minority-neighborhoods-immune-to-hawks-fever.html
How dare you enjoy something that is not enjoyed by the citizens of the ghetto? I refuse to go to another hockey game until there is a good that I or a family member will become a victim of a crime during the game.
6/04/2010 12:12:00 AM
You mean like a drunken punch in the mouth by a loud mouth drunk white man from the suburbs because you dared to cheer for another team besides the Hawks. Yep, no victim of any crimes at those Hawks Games, no indeed.
I THANK THE PUBLIC SCHOOL.
MY KIDS WENT TO A CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL AND WERE ALWAYS IN THE MIDDLES OF THE PACK.
ONCE THEY HIT THE JOB MARKET THEY WERE LIKE GOLD.
THEY COULD
READ ENGLISH
RIGHT ENGLISH
THEY KNEW HOW TO GET TO WORK ON TIME ON THE CTA.
THEY DIDNT GET HIGH OR DRUNK AT WORK.
THEY DIDNT STEAL SUPPLIES.
THEY DIDNT ARGUE WITH THE BOSS.
SO KUDOS TO RON LUBERMAN MY GRANDCHILDREN MAY SOME DAY BE A DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT.
Make 'em too tired to be lollygaggin' & bullshittin' and keep 'em that way.
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Don't forget the shuckin' and jivin too...not to mention hibbityin' an' jibbityin'...mmmm hhmmmm
"Hater" at 8:45 PM
Let's get it right, Mr. Wright.
Learning how to write is a rite of passage for good students.
As your high school kids can teach their daddy, all of the underscored words are pronounced identically. However, each has a different meaning.
While your point is well taken, please work on your WRITING and your spelling.
THEY COULD
READ ENGLISH
RIGHT ENGLISH
THEY KNEW HOW TO GET TO WORK ON TIME ON THE CTA.
How about "LEFT ENGLISH" and learned to speak and write in spanish.
Why not? These assholes don't raise their children anyway, we take care of them from the cradle to the grave.
Anonymous said...
Chicago Public Schools have pne of the shortest school days in the country. Teachers who don't have to live in the city want to get an early jump on traffic when commuting to Maywood or Bellwood or Markham, whatever. We lock these out of control hoodlums up. Can you imagine having to be unarmed in a school FULL of them??? I'd wanna boogie outta there too!
6/04/2010 12:25:00 AM
Teachers on the average start 90 minutes early to call missing parents and about johnny's failing grades. Then they work with a computer system that crashed daily. They put in 8 hours by 3pm. Massive amount of paperwork to CYA mentality. Remember, Huberman is the leader. Let them extend the school day with nonexistent computers and non-teachers in a school. Good Luck!
6/04/2010 03:30:00 AM,
6/04/2010 06:23:00 AM:
Get some sleep and bi-polar anti-bullshit meds. Soon.
G*d Bless!
Anonymous said...
A friend who teaches at reconstituted Harper HS said that "more than half" the kids come to school "high" in the morning.
Another friend's daughter is a middle-grade CPS teacher, despite that daughter's unregulated bipolar condition, habitual drug-taking, and gangbanger-drug dealer ex-con husband disruptive household. Certainly not a role-model, hardly a competent teacher, yet gainfully employed by CPS for past decade. Guess you need only to be a "breathing bachelor-degree graduate" to teach at CPS.
CPS is a haven for underperforming teachers enjoying the shortest school day possible, for a 8-month work-year. (With exception of those three gold-plated prep schools, of course)
6/04/2010 07:06:00 AM
Underperforming teachers? So, following your example, if the crime rate is high then police are under performing? Take a long look at northwest side public schools then say under performing. Should we judge the entire CPD based on one who beat a bar tender? How many CPD are in a state prison? Do not throw stones you goof. The majority of teachers, police and fire work very hard in poor conditions and shit equipment and still accomplish the task at hand.
Hey, 6/05/2010 08:33:00 AM, Stop drinking the Progressive's Kool Aid. The entire system is designed to fail. Look at what has become of Detroit...we will be next. If things are just a little bit better in the Northwest side Public Schools, just remember that they're not even close to providing a good education as any Private schools in West or South side. Why do you think that most of us sacrifice so hard to send our children to Private schools?
The 'icing on the cake' of this entire exercise is that we pay for this corrupt system, out of our very high property taxes while our home values drop every month.
My fiance is on the CPD. I OFTEN post pro-police comments on newspaper blogs, as well as defend the job you do to people who don't necessarily agree. I'm also a very hard-working CPS teacher. I sort of thought we (CPD and CPS)were in the same boat....working with citizens who need, but not realize they need, our help and working for the same disgusting mayor. I never expected to see such bashing of CPS teachers here. Go ahead and make fun of me (I know many will), but I'm really disappointed to read some of the comments here.
By the way, June4, 9:58 am, I have NO idea where you got the "one hour off" a day. We receive a 20 minute break, in which we hope we can run to the bathroom and, if we're lucky, our contractual 40 minutes 4 times a week, to grade papers, call parents, plan lessons, etc.
Thanks for the support! (sarcasm is not limited to police officers)
Why all the anti-union statements from the cops?
Just because CPD has a crappy contract, don't blame us teachers! Blame Mark and his do nothing staff.
33:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Hey, 6/05/2010 08:33:00 AM, Stop drinking the Progressive's Kool Aid. The entire system is designed to fail. Look at what has become of Detroit...we will be next. If things are just a little bit better in the Northwest side Public Schools, just remember that they're not even close to providing a good education as any Private schools in West or South side. Why do you think that most of us sacrifice so hard to send our children to Private schools?
The 'icing on the cake' of this entire exercise is that we pay for this corrupt system, out of our very high property taxes while our home values drop every month.
6/05/2010 08:59:00 AM
Private schools focus on the above average students and those that are very good in sports. If you have a child with any sort of problem then you are out of luck. Riddle me this? Why are the neighborhood public schools on the northwest side growing while the private schools are declining in student numbers? The test scores are high and parents(city employees) are very involved in school activites. Same education for free. You pay a high price for living on the southwest side.
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