How Safe is Your Station?
- ...Weis responded Friday to questions about whether there was enough security at the building.
Asked about what could be done about security at police parking lots, Weis said police facilities have video surveillance but added that little could be done to prevent such attacks by people with little regard for human life.
"There's really no level of security you can put up that will prevent a person like that from attacking someone," he said.
Yeah, like video cameras have ever secured anything. Our readers respond:
- really, let's go to the FBI Chicago field office on Roosevelt and see if you can get into their parking lot with a ladder or grappling hook. aint going to happen. They have gates, turnstiles, armed guards and ...wait for it...
A SECURE F'KIN COVERED GARAGE ACCESSIBLE ONLY BY VETTED EMPLOYEES - Go to any suburban police department and try to trespass around their facilities like the shitbirds do around ours.
Or perhaps go to the FBI facility at 2111 W. Roosevelt Road in Chicago and try to get in.
Or any police facility around here, except ours. and try to tresspass.
Obviously, we aren't going to publish exactly how to access our woefully pathetic security measures. But vague generalizations demonstrating how un-secure District stations are would be an eye opener to many. Maybe it even gets General Services interested in fixing a few more doors and leaky ceilings.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
171 Comments:
O.T.
Anybody see Ozzie Guillen wearing a Chicago Police baseball cap at the post game press confrence sunday. nice to see that.last year he also wrote "OPD" on his game hat to remember the four slain police officers in Oakland.
I won't say which station I work at, but it doesn't have video surveillance. Neither do the last 2 places I was assigned. J-Fled might not know, since he doesn't know much about the Department outside his and Masters' offices...but I really would like to know, is he lying or is he really that dumb?
CHECK OUT THE THE FRONT LOBBY, (HOMELESS SHELTER) WHERE I WORK.
Don't they also have someone patrolling headquarters parking lot at overtime rate? There should be someone assigned to all Chicago PD lots not just headquarters.
It's positively absurd that any vagrant, hobo, n'er-do-well or bum is allowed to traipse as he pleases through installation areas of the Chicago PD. For a billion reasons, this makes no sense. As has already been pointed out, this sort of horseshit is not permitted by other cities.
The station houses should have one single point for public ingress and egress. All other areas frequented by officers should be secured with fences and however many armed men is appropriate. We have a dead police officer- and by all accounts, one helluva man- who stands as a sad, silent reminder that this "who cares" methodology of securing Chicago's station houses is wrong.
The policemen of Chicago are our warriors against criminals. They will make enemies through the course of their work. To leave them unprotected and vulnerable to this sort of thing is just disgusting.
This needs to be fixed, now. Not a bunch of pointless study groups or white-papers, no theory sessions, no political wrangling, no bluster or empty hot air. Get shovels digging and fresh procedures drafted, right fucking now.
Mayor Daley and the administrators of the Chicago PD, you fail.
- Hegewisch Electronics Geek, disgusted.
About 25 years ago I visited a police station on Phoenix, Az.
You walked into a public area that was sealed off like a currency exchange. From behind bullet-proof glass you were asked what your business was. I was there to see a PO. I was told to wait and when he was available he escorted me through a buzzed door into a secure area.
PO's could only access facilities that they were assigned to.
Our facilities were designed with no security in mind. To build secure structures you need quality construction, so that explains that.
First of all, get the community rooms out of the police stations. No matter how warm that makes you feel with the public, the fact that they are on police property with department permission means the department is responsible for their safety.
The structures and perimeters need to be hardened.
We have been lucky so far.
How bout trying the nearest Military facility parking lot J-Fled?! Let us know how far your overpaid ass gets! Try the lot where I used to park my car at Great Lakes, didn't see too many shit-birds roaming around those lots...... ass.
Security , that's a freaking joke.Hell in our station we have mold in basement locker room because it floods everytime it rains hard for more than 1 hr.And on top of everything else, we have zero chance of stopping a criminal running into the station if he has any criminal intent.
We have said this since day one when this new type of station started being built.
We call them ALAMO MODERN, designed as a mission, not as a fortress. Lots of open public area, lots of glass, no way to secure parking lots. The security systems like CCTV that never worked. A couple of armed gangbangers can come in and take over the place and pull a jail break, no problem.
We know what happened to the first Alamo.
Whatever happened to the station security evalutions Jody was gonna get from his fed buddies at the secret service after the 14 y.o. incident in the 3rd district????
How about the door codes that have been the same since the buildings open? The bad guys that are locked up regularly know the codes by heart
FACE IT !
the cpd is not a professional organization.
just a bunch of political hacks with guns.
All I can ask for is perhaps some kind of lighting in the 6th Dist Police Parking lot!!Its pitch black out in the lot.Some of us are walking 3 deep to our cars just in case someone gets any ideas.Atleast that was the case last day I worked.Anyone else having lighting problems in there lots??
Fallen Officer Valadez had a street named after him today. An "Honorary Street," but nonetheless still a nice tribute. SCC, this begs a question that maybe you could address. When is the last time this city actually renamed a street for a fallen Chicago Police officer? With all the streets in Chicago named after 100 year old denizens of Chicago's past, why can't the City of Chicago actually "rename" a street for a fallen Chicago Police Officer? Or at least rename one street to collectively honor the true heroes of the City's past.
"There's really no level of security you can put up that will prevent a person like that from attacking someone," he said.
Tell me he can't be that fucking stupid. Seriously.
Or maybe he meant to say there's no level of security that Chicago politicians would be willing to install or endorse to protect our officers. We can't piss off the revrunds and all the democrat leaning voters by appearing to care about the police now can we?
Google Image search Ireland police stations. They look like maximum security prisons. Yeah forehead, there's just no level of security to protect an Officer.
I was there when they pulled Officer Soderberg off the ambulance at the ME's office. Don't insult my intelligence, dishonor a fallen Officer and disrespect the rest of the Officers who risk their lives everyday.
Shut the fuck up.
SHHHHHHH. . . . . Don't tell anyone that the secret password to get into a police parking lot is. . . .is. . . . . ummmmm. . . . . there is no password.
I remember years ago (2000-03) in 007 at 61st and Racine, a few officers had their cars broken into and burglarized while they were working. The problem was never fixed. It's clearly worse now.
I am shocked that I havent got a CR number for telling people to leave the Police Lot in 017. Signs all over stating POLICE PARKING ONLY. To bad most cant read engleesh!
26th and California Criminal Courts Building has a some what secure facility to park in. Lord forbid anything happens to an ASA's car. Also each jail division has a secured parking garage. Why can't the ones who actually have to fight the savages be safe? Why do the "officers" at 35th and Michigan have a secured parking facility with an officer at the gate?
The old 7th didtrict is so safe that the shit heads use to walk up to the window, and talk shit while you were processing there frineds. They could have easily gun an officer down.
The most important thing to remember is this wouldn't have happened had Thor had a locker available to him in the old 007th dist!!!!! How many people have a locker at TRU???? The answer is very few!!
The security is woeful at best at all of our stations but places like 013, 012, and the old 007 are the worst. The areas are a close second. Think of how vulnerable the desk crew is at Chicago Police Facility. The areas have two access doors and that doesn't include other doors should somebody sneak in.
I have never been to a suburban station that has direct access for the public. The Mayor should remember that Police officers are hated by many for no reason. Government itself is hated by many. The Police are the easiest target to access for a nutjob!
In 021 we have dunbar park directly across the street from us and it pisses me off that when people from the area have huge parties, they're all welcome to come on in to the station and use our bathrooms. Seriously the building is a police station not a public restroom for the masses. It's just not safe letting people come in like that And I don't think it should be allowed. Oh but I forgot, we don't want to be seen in a negative light no matter what.
Well what does anyone expect from someone that has never worked in a police facility other than HQ? The man has door to door service and has no reason to enter through the parking structure.
The biggest joke is the visitor parking at the newer stations. Use your imagination.
Gotta run.
Masters x3
Let's again attempt to close the barn door after all the horses have run out. Great job amatuer bosses of CPD.
Its not only police facilities that have secure parking for their employees, last night I was roaming around 009 and saw the Pepsi distributor on 35th west of Iron had 15' tall barbed wire fence with a guard and gate access. Then on 51st street by Kedzie Central Wire and Steel had ALL of their parking lots fenced in with card access.
My point is some companies realize that the employee is their most valuable asset...Not CPD though.
There is a STRONG rumor that Downtown EB is none too happy with both Georgas and Ryan. The grudge with Georgas goes back a while but Ryan has to do with security (or lack of) at the TRU building.
Watch for Georgas to go to A/3 as Dep Chief, (Rottner had residency issues), and Ryan to go to Capt in 008.
Alexander will take Georgas spot and the new commander of TRU will be the the old commander of TRU. (Sorry Eli not you) it will be none other than TW from 008.
You heard it here first!!
All new stations (such as 010) where one person is allowed to work the desk, they sit there taking reports from lines of shady citizens & illegal aliens all day. They are not able to safely and effectively monitor who comes in & out of the stations lobby.
Maybe Caps or the commanders office should post their worthless and hidden EXTRA PO's in the lobby at the door where they can at least help secure and protect the working PO's who unfortunately don't have eyes on the backs of their heads.
Hell I would be happy with a security gate ... over the mold filled interview rooms and leaking ceiling. I don't think that's asking for much.
Security measures at our police stations would only be installed after shanks takes his blinders off, quits ignoring the obvious and admits there are less than desireable people roaming around in his sanctuary city that can only be controlled by physical and tangible barriers. Until then, everything will remain wide open, unlike facilities at federal government locations and suburban police departments.
Plus, Maggie would have to approve the design of same, after it is offered by a Daley-connected family member, so nothing clashes with the center-divider flower enclosures and other phony baloney window dressing that is used to confuse the tax-paying public and have them believe there are no problems here in lovely Chicago.
I keep hearing stories about who is able to enter our police lots. I know for a fact that the same criminals we arrest end up parking in the area POLICE lots when they go to court. The look inside personnal vehicles to see what they can see.
Improve security?
Never gonna happen, at least while Shortshanks is still around. That would mean spending money and unless you have a Daley family member or friend on the receiving end no improvements will be made.
However......we could work with what we have.
Take a certain North Side District for example. The rear door to this facility is for all intensive purposes secured with a locked door that requires a code to be punched in.
Unfortunately, that code has been given out to numerous non-sworn personnel.
One example would be the senior group that meets at this facility. These people are allowed to park in our lot and enter through the secured rear door. Instead of someone from the senior office meeting them at the door, they given this group the security code to gain admittance.
Then there is the family member of a certain 2nd watch desk Sgt who was recently seen using the same door.
But hey! What does it all matter when you have out side civilian dressed personnel throwing hissy fits when you ask them to see some I.D. before you let them in?
My point is until we start using what security measures we have, getting new and better ones won't make a difference.
OT
Just saw the reverend Jackson comparing LeBron to a slave. Where is he and Flavor Phleger when the savages are killing Police Officers? What a piece of excrement!
It has been the same policy throughout the military since Vietnam.
The policy of winning the "hearts and minds" of the populace gets troops killed by opening up their bases to the populace.
This same policy as we see here in Chicago gets officers killed and injured.
take a look at the 14th district lot its a joke. random people are always cutting through the lot to get to the L
Its amazing how secure European police stations are compared to ours. When I visited friends at their station in Munich I had to approach a bullet proof glass enclosed counter to explain who I was and who I wanted to see. When I visited friends in France I had to talk to someone over an intercom while a camera watched me. You can't even get into stations to make a report until you get cleared. Its a good thing.
a 16 year old kid posed as a fucking cop for entire shift...access to every nook and cranny of our pathetic station. Enough said...this place is a joke!
TRY AND GET INTO J-FLED CONDO!
YEP U GUEST IT DOOR MAN.
GO VISIT J-FLED OFFICE.
OOPS OFFICER AT FRONT GATE AND HI-END CAMERAS THAT ZOOM IN AND OUT THAT CAN READ PLATES FROM A BLOCK AWAY. DAMN NOW METAL DETECTOR TOO.
AND DONT 4 GET ARMED HOUSE MOUSES.
U KNOW THIS PRICK KNOWS ABOUT SECURITY BECAUSE HE IS SAFE LIKE THE SISSY HE IS.
MANY OF US STAND AROUND ON CELLS TEXTING AND TALKING LIKE TEENAGERS
PAY ATTENTION U R A TARGET IN AN UGLY UNIFORM.
Go to any modern police station outside Chicago and the desk is fronted in bullet proof glass. Shortshanks doesn't want to offended anyone. It certainly ain't about the money, since all these new stations are covered in marble, have art and roof top gardens etc. Any whack job can walk into any police station in the city and take an officer's life at any time. Oh, that's right we're taxpayers(AKA second class citizens) in this democrat paradise.
Take a certain North Side District for example. The rear door to this facility is for all intensive purposes secured with a locked door that requires a code to be punched in.
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I agree with everything you said, but it was hard to get over the speed bump of 'intensive' purposes.
I'm sure you meant to say 'intents and purposes', because that, at least, makes sense.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I keep hearing stories about who is able to enter our police lots. I know for a fact that the same criminals we arrest end up parking in the area POLICE lots when they go to court. The look inside personnal vehicles to see what they can see.
7/12/2010 08:13:00 AM
Cook County Sheriff sends released prisoners out the garage door at Br 38. Allowing them to roam the Area 2 police parking lot.
CHECK OUT THE THE FRONT LOBBY, (HOMELESS SHELTER) WHERE I WORK.
7/12/2010 12:14:00 AM
That situation would be easy to solve and wouldn't cost a dime. How safe is it having mentally deficient people lounging all over the stations, not to mention the diseases they are carrying?
Secure the stations and put the homeless in a shelter.
One example would be the senior group that meets at this facility. These people are allowed to park in our lot and enter through the secured rear door. Instead of someone from the senior office meeting them at the door, they given this group the security code to gain admittance.
7/12/2010 08:26:00 AM
Senior groups? Are you serious? Can you see someone opening fire, not only hitting CPD but senior citizens there for a meeting.
That's ridiculous. And wrong on so many different levels. J-Fled, take responsibility for the lack of care, concern or security of your "warriors" you asshole. This officer's death was totally, totally preventable!
---not a cop
Anonymous said...
Don't they also have someone patrolling headquarters parking lot at overtime rate? There should be someone assigned to all Chicago PD lots not just headquarters.
7/12/2010 12:19:00 AM
Used to be a position on every watch, "Station Security", to put another body on the desk?
Everyone has a story about how every station security is a joke. Over all this department is a joke, from its leaders right down to safety and security.
Protect your self
JODY WEIS is a MORON at best.
He follows his DUMB ASS BOSS' mentality.
HOW MUCH SECURITY DO YOU NEED AROUND A POLICE STATION?
IF HE IS IMPLYING WE NEED NATIONAL GUARDS FOR GUARDING COPS , HE IS A FVCKING IDIOT!!!
WHAT ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS JODY?
GO FVCK YOURSELF WEIS, and I HOPE THEY CAN YOUR ASS ALONG WITH YOUR LEPARCHAN SIDE KICK!!!
You both have made this city into a shithole
It is time to replace the 100 conscripts sent to MSF and TRU. Look for a big bump in the IOD and recurrence in the Medical Section. For all you dogs, please know that the real Officers you work with know each and every one of you.
J-Fled, here is a freebie for you. Do something productive with these "ambulatory" medical dogs that languish for up to a year for a 'pulled muscle' or some other nonsense. Put them on the pods or some other inconvenient place to 'help' them with their rehabilitation. Look through the medical in any District or Unit. It's disgusting. Don't just think you can put them on the Desk either. You have to know your job to work inside. These slugs need to push a broom or something like that. Maybe you can have them sit in the auditorium for their eight hours.
Regarding newer stations. What a piss poor safety design!!! How about those giant windows that expose the desk personnel to the public? Easy to take a shot through one of those. Especially at night, the glare from the lights inside block any view from the desk area to the outside. I had the experience of seeing this 1st hand when I was getting a report approved. My partner was trying to signal me as I was looking in his direction while he was outside. He was pissed that I didn't acknowledge him. I told him I couldn't see him standing there. I was able to see passing vehicles due to their lights. It scared the shit out of me when I realized how easy it would be for some nut to stand there and take aim. I very much doubt those windows are bullet proof or at least bullet resistant. Remember---"LOWEST BIDDER"---gets the contract.
...for all intensive purposes...
WHAT???????
Holy Norm Crosby.
Why doesn't Shortshanks have one of his relatives put up the wrought iron fences that he has the private businesses install. Lets start with the Academy Security, I was there for a class last week no one at the front desk walked right in and walked around the building without a ID on. Never questioned by anyone. When I parked in the lot I noticed no security cameras anywhere in the lots.
not long ago some bombthrower looking woman got in through our back door and was walking around the halls and last week a briefcase was left at the same door..luckily the bomb squad found it empty..what a joke that any savage can just walk around especially by our personal cars in the parking garages..it's only a matter a time till the next tragedy..
Video surveillance? All the new stations have video that only watch the officers. There are no cameras at the front door, lobby or entrances to the building. Signs posted at the lots say lots have video surveillance (BS) the cameras do not watch the lot. Go behind the desk and look at the monitors. They are there only to watch us!!! No cameras in stairwells etc...
Those of us who work in the old 007th Dist thought for sure that there would be security 24-7 after what just happened....boy were we wrong. Its as though nothing happened.
there is an alley that runs behind 011. cars,kids on bikes,bums and just plain shit heads always stroll through the alley where all of the squad cars are parked. the citizens on the 3100 block of flournoy fucking garages open up into our parking lot. what a dumb ass design.
008th district had a few sets of tires slashed on personal cars & the folks from the Islam church & anybody else for that matter park in that lot. Nobody checks these lots; nobody runs plates, nobody cares.
In 1982 an offender walked right into the 20th dist to use the bathroom on midnights. Came out of the bathroom and was able to steal an officer's gun out of the holster. Thank God no P.O. was killed just the offender. I now live out of state and Police stations out west are not even open to the public in the evenings or nights. That's the way it should be. No reason for the public to have access in the middle of the night.
police station/facility security falls somewhere between a joke and a disgrace, just another insult (in a long line of insults) from shortshanks toward the men and women of the CPD....
010 is a horrible set up. Shit birds walking to and from from sawyer, talking shit if you're going in with a head. Simple solution, make the east lot for police personel only. Install a gate with key card access, leave the first couple of rows for the dc, wc, tac lt, etc (everyone that wants to feel important enough to have a reserved spot). Next, the closer spots should be for police cars only(you hear this fto JL)! Then towards the rear we can leave the cars we're towing, and that solves the problem of joe gangbangers friend coming with an extra set of keys to take the car. Civilians can then park in the smaller west lot.
Rest In Peace Thor
Tsa jobs on pizza boxes yea we are really secure!http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=165&sid=2000678
here you go. you have the basis for your lawsuit, there has been, a officer, attacked in the police lot.you have a statement, by your police boss. saying there is video.if any thing happens to you file a lawsuit. for citys failure to provide lot security,and protect officers, and employees, after a major incident, occured. if they don't fix this soon. just wait until you have a incident and get lawyer.solution.secure all police facilitys, now,with barbed wire gates.install a sliding fence for entry. you use you police i.d. to enter.install dome security cameras, on all four corners of bldg.put up tresspass signs.tow all unauthorized cars.have all desk crew drive around lot once a tour.even pull that watch secretary, hiding in the whole. come out and drive around,are you looking at this jody, or mayor.masters.the lawsuit awaits you.
Doesn't H.Q. have a fence around it & guard watching the gate? And I do believe that the 911 center has both of them also?
Anonymous said...
O.T.
Anybody see Ozzie Guillen wearing a Chicago Police baseball cap at the post game press confrence sunday. nice to see that.last year he also wrote "OPD" on his game hat to remember the four slain police officers in Oakland.
7/12/2010 12:09:00 AM
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That I can say about Ozzie. He has A LOT of respect and admiration for police & firefighters and always has. On Police & Fire night he is always out there thanking and congradulating the honorees.
He also has a heart for the Veterans too.
17 has shitheads, drunks, gangbangers and lowlifes walking and driving thru the lot 24/7 and nobody gives a crap.
"Anonymous said...
OT
Just saw the reverend Jackson comparing LeBron to a slave. Where is he and Flavor Phleger when the savages are killing Police Officers? What a piece of excrement!
7/12/2010 08:27:00 AM"
Didn't he also say something about candidate Obama's balls?
I have had to go into 2 south suburban depts in the past 7yrs or so for reports. Each one had bullet proof glass(allegedley anyway) that the desk personnel were BEHIND. You talk through a speaker. I heard the city didnt want to do this because of 2 reasons one of which was expense the other was of how it looks to the poor citizen coming in to get a report. God forbid someone is intimidated by that. EVERY one of our stations they let any ass walk in and approach the desk. This is going to come back to bite us in the ass eventually. I hope Im wrong, but its a matter of time. And recently I have seen pregnant female officers behind the desk, thats even more incredible. Who the fuck is making these decisions? PUT UP GLASS and screw the public, we have families to go home to
My newer station has V-surv but who in the hell is monitoring it? The desk is short of personnel and most faces are buried in their screen cruising the net, even the WC. WTF!
Institute special employment for "station security". Shanks has his cadre of protection; why not the stations?
Have FOP file an OSHA complaint. It should not be real hard to document the safety hazard to employees.
4 shitheads gd "s from southside arrested 017 parking lot, not sure why they were there
take a look at the 14th district lot its a joke. random people are always cutting through the lot to get to the L
7/12/2010 08:49:00 AM
Very true, even if it yuppies.
How many cars waiting to be towed/impounded have been stolen from the lot of a certain west side district (or probably ANY district for that matter)? Not a video camera to be found in the lot for POs cars or the lots for squad cars. One thing to point out though...the Area garage has a giant fence around the lot, which makes sense. We wouldn't want anyone stealing the squad cars that don't work.
023, offender with knife who attacked po killed in lobby by mass transit guy on phone in 2002. Within last two years an offender came in the back door and was found on the second floor. Brand new lot unsecure. East lot has bar patrons pissing in it from time to time. 023 getting a new station soon, and the lockup exit will be within steps of the parking garage
Saw a guy get locked up in December for trespass to the lot in area 2. He had been living in one of the damaged unmarked cars in the back for 2 weeks before he was discovered this time. Told the arresting officers that he had been doing it for the past 15 years during the winter time for his safety. What about our safety. 15 seconds in the lot is too long for a civilian to be back there unsupervised.
There is a STRONG rumor that Downtown EB is none too happy with both Georgas and Ryan. The grudge with Georgas goes back a while but Ryan has to do with security (or lack of) at the TRU building.
Watch for Georgas to go to A/3 as Dep Chief, (Rottner had residency issues), and Ryan to go to Capt in 008.
Alexander will take Georgas spot and the new commander of TRU will be the the old commander of TRU. (Sorry Eli not you) it will be none other than TW from 008.
You heard it here first!!
Ryan is a Lt. by Career Service so he won't be a Captain, it wouldn't surprise me if EB tries something similar, so he can get rid of more white bosses, so let's see, moving Dana lateral to SF would be a reward for what? as Commander of 004 and as D/C of A2 he's done what to combat the out-of-control violence down there? and bring back TW? now that would be a joke, that guy was so in over his head it was laughable.. nothing would surprise me.
Yes, I do not understand why all the house mouses at 35th and Michigan get so much security for their parking lot while at all other police facilities there is no parking lot security in place. Once again we deal with the issues of double standards. The house mouse coward "bosses" think they are better than those of us working the beats trying to rid the neighborhoods of garbage.
The police facility at 61st and Racine should be named after Officer Soderberg!
I for one am tired of multiple buildings, parks, and whatever else owned by the city named after Richard J. or Harold W.
Like merit promotions should be*, one per customer.
*Only because they will never go away. There should be no merit promotions.
O.T.
Anybody see Ozzie Guillen wearing a Chicago Police baseball cap at the post game press confrence sunday. nice to see that.last year he also wrote "OPD" on his game hat to remember the four slain police officers in Oakland.
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he has worn it every press conference since ofc soderberg was murdered. very cool.
A mayor that is anti-gun, even though he is surrounded by a gun toting security detail. A Supt. that does not know how to secure a parking lot, even though HE PARKS AT A SECURED LOT AT HQ EVERY DAY. Is this irony or disconnect? I'm going with disconnect. Another example of why morale is in the toilet. And is it just me or is J-Fled starting to sport Blago hair?
After bonding out, these pieces of shit: thieves, burglars, gang bangers, etc., were letting out from the back of the building (celliport)and were free to roam around the POLICE parking lot where we park our personal and Department vehicles.
And also, regular citizens were allowed to cut off to our Police station lot to wherever they're going to. Someone told me it's community relations ,but, I call it BULLSHIT. The Department won't do anything unless some fucking terrorist plant a (or a few) bomb in our vehicles or police building and blow up the whole station. This is a VERY SERIOUS security concerns especially on midnights where no one sees what's going on at the parking lot.
When it comes to security measures, CPD is the laughing stock in the whole nation...
Hold on... I seem to remember something... Was it in a South Side Dist? A question of "Security" in Stations?
Didnt some 16 yo shithead just walk into 003 with a uniform on and "play" Police for a while?
J-Fled: Listen up, SOMETHING NEEDS TO FUCKING CHANGE YOU DUMBASS!
You need that message posted to that huge mellon of yours? You keep swewing your shit about how much "you" care about THE officers (hint; "WE" aint yours!)... Time to put up or shut up...
How about they privatize the police lots? Daley would love to get that money too. Then they could be patrolled by revenue or some "connected" firm-
The bottom line jfled and the mayor + the 50 cowards don't care about the police, but dam if eddie burke does not have a fleet of guards along with the treasurer with her lapa detail defrauding taxpayers everyday1
@ A couple of armed gangbangers can come in and take over the place and pull a jail break, no problem.
We know what happened to the first Alamo.
7/12/2010 01:00:00 AM
With all due respect,
If it was that simple I worry about the level of training that the PO's working that location got in the first place.
any who posts a comment on this subject crying about the lack of security at the stations better damn sure have locked someone up for violating the station boundries in the first place. I agree that all police facilities are a joke, including HQ -- the guy sitting at the front desk could take one just as quick as the guy in the district.
I for one have locked up several people at Police facilities, from the shit head cutting through the lot to the disrespectful yuppie doing the same, or the ones that acted like asholes once inside the front door.
Last time I checked, those are our "houses" and I have protected mine. So to those complaining, try locking somebody up in 017, or tell the people "no public restrooms" in 021, or stop using each station as a warming/cooling center. And if the effort needed to effect an arrest is too much, write an ANOV or just keep your mouth shut.
Why doesn't someone ask Roti about p.o.'s being forced to park their "personal" vehicles in that highly secured west lot of Homan Square, or better yet right there on the street, and then walk alone about a block to the entrance door.
old timers may remember that a PO from the old 008th district was jumped and disarmed by a former arrestee of his that got out on bail then returned and waited outside for the po to finish his tour
It's apparent that the Supt of Police has not gone on a field trip in a while to visit those he is supposed to supervise. Yes, there ARE members on this dept working in stations that were built before their grandparents were born, while he (JFled) sits in an even-temperatured rodent-free office! This is 2010- why aren't ALL new stations built yet?? Those of us working in these old buildings should file an OSHA complaint everyday for the hazardous working conditions- rats, flies, roaches,vulnerability to attack and overall unsafe environment.
Check out area 3's lot. Nothing-no cameras or security of any kind. Shitheads going to court and parking in our lot and no room for us. Front desk is a homeless shelter and stinks. The johns only half work. Dirty filthy a/c heating vents and mold all over. The heat doesn't work in the winter and a/c cools half the building.When it rains or when the snows starts melting at the police entrance it runs down the wall into the area gang office.Bonnie A (political hack and worthless and scary looking)comes in and looks around and sends over lockers from 009 that are broken dirty and are still in the basement hallways for the gang guys to use.All in all its business as usual in the police dept,fucked up.
random people are always cutting through the lot to get to the L
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Just as they would if it was a grocery store parking lot. If there is a short cut, people are likely to take it.
If you don't want people cutting through a parking lot, you have to put up a fence and gate(s).
By the way, OSHA just fined the postal servce a quarter of a million dollars for safety violations discovered in a post office. No reason they can't fine Chicago for legitimate safety violations as well.
How many sergeants are taking the 55 and out?
We won't get help from the brass or the city. Lets look at us as p.o. 's what can we do? 1. If you see a trespasser in the lot lock him/ her /them up. 2. Unless you are going to sit there and watch the damn door don't prop it open. Yesteday I saw the door 25 yards from where Thor was murdered propped open. Had it been open that day we may have many more funerals to plan right now. 3. Make it a point to drive by your unit and take a look at what is going on around it. Check the lot, look who his walking by, look at what cars are where, who is on the corner. Previous to this incident an idiot pointed a gun a a desk officer a couple of years ago, bad results for him and not the officer thank god.
FOP should file a class action safety violation and we should not work until we are as safe as the merits at HQ & the aldercreatures at City Hall, or the kangaroo court building on superior. FOP step up!!!!
We aren't 2nd class citizens but we ate the ones getting gunned down and targeted. Not all those fools at the aforementioned locations.
It's positively absurd that any vagrant, hobo, n'er-do-well or bum is allowed to traipse as he pleases through installation areas of the Chicago PD. For a billion reasons, this makes no sense. As has already been pointed out, this sort of horseshit is not permitted by other cities.
That above only decribes the TMA that come out of 18th and state. How the hell we allow non-police from having lockers where the police have their uniforms and guns stored is pretty damn stupid.And i don t recall ever seeing any cameras in any of the old stations i ve worked at.
Memorial Celebration for Officer Thor Soderberg will be held Thursday, July 15th at 10:00 Rockefeller Memorial Chapel 5850 S. Woodlawn Avenue Chicago, IL 60637. If you wish to send flowers, the family is requesting live plants, and that no one wear black.
AS a regular citizen who pays taxes out the ass to live in Shitcago, I can not believe that there is no protection for CPD officers working in their offices. You guys deal with scum 24x7 and need to be able to be safe while at work. Mayor Dick is out of here come the next election. Why would anybody do this to their own people? I'll bet his posse has showers and no mold in their ratholes. God bless CPD and fuck our local government. How are you guys and gals supposed to do your jobs? This is crazy, but we all can vote and that is not crazy! GTFO Mr. Mayor!
NO NO NO!!!
You got all wrong SCC!
The runnin' dog west & south-cide rev'runs and alder-fools want Police facilities to be "community friendly" so that mutts, shit-bums, the mentally unstable and "honor students" can camp out in the lobby, wander around in the station, break into P.O.'s cars, lockers and all sorts of other merry mischief.
Whereas in the suburbs, there is nowhere to loiter, sit and lolly gag. If your ass isn't on official business you either get out or get locked the fuck up. No lobby/front desk access, a small waiting area with no seating and LOTS of bullet-proof glass. P.O. parking is separate, secured, shielded and patrolled.
None of this liberal bullshit about Police stations being cooling/warming/community centers and dormitories for people awaiting pick by community services.
Don't get us started about federal facilities. If you're not on authorized business you will surely get locked up on federal trespass charges and if you fuck around too hard your likelihood of dying where you stand is very good indeed.
J-fled is drunk, high, full of shit and a liar... CPD facilities aren't secure the WAY THEY NEED TO BE BECAUSE SOMEBODY "IM-POTANT" will get their nose out of joint for not having easy access to get on the D.C./coppers nerves with nonsense or have a bull-donkey shit "community event" on the premises.
Restricted access... guard shacks with tire-busters & video for no cutting through the parking lot.
Police Stations should be unfriendly and forbidding places...
For everything else, rent a fucking hall!
There is a STRONG rumor that Downtown EB is none too happy with both Georgas and Ryan. The grudge with Georgas goes back a while but Ryan has to do with security (or lack of) at the TRU building.
Watch for Georgas to go to A/3 as Dep Chief, (Rottner had residency issues), and Ryan to go to Capt in 008.
Alexander will take Georgas spot and the new commander of TRU will be the the old commander of TRU. (Sorry Eli not you) it will be none other than TW from 008.
You heard it here first!!
Ryan is a Lt. by Career Service so he won't be a Captain, it wouldn't surprise me if EB tries something similar, so he can get rid of more white bosses, so let's see, moving Dana lateral to SF would be a reward for what? as Commander of 004 and as D/C of A2 he's done what to combat the out-of-control violence down there? and bring back TW? now that would be a joke, that guy was so in over his head it was laughable.. nothing would surprise me.
7/12/2010 01:34:00 PM
No, Ryan is a Captain. He was a Lt in Detached Svcs (park district) then made Captain and went to either 008 or 022 cant remember but it wasnt long)
and since when do Alexanders accomplishements (lol) justify his promotions.
Bullet proof glass in stations? Not in our time, or at least as long as the current mayor and city council is in office.
Remember, our Mayor would not allow the National Guard to carry loaded weapons just after 9/11 at the airports. He didn't want to scare the tourists.
Anonymous said...
How many sergeants are taking the 55 and out?
7/12/2010 04:09:00 PM
According to the Sergeant's Association, as of last week, there were only 19 sergeants retiring on 15 July 2010.
All I can ask for is perhaps some kind of lighting in the 6th Dist Police Parking lot!!Its pitch black out in the lot.Some of us are walking 3 deep to our cars just in case someone gets any ideas.Atleast that was the case last day I worked.Anyone else having lighting problems in there lots??
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3deep? You still are the police u know!
I am a retired CPD and have the occasion to visit police facilities around the country in my current job. Never have I seen police facilities as open as they are in Chicago, never, not in a small town or in another big city. You are correct when you do not want to say too much on this blog, but it is a shame and sign of how litle the administration thinks of you and how imcompetent your leadership is and has been. The now retired deputy supt. ( who went on to another careet as Stroger's aid, was primarily responsible for designing these new, way too open and waste of space stations. I moved into the 006 when it was new and it was a diaster. I really wonder why the FOP cannot do something about this either through a safety grievance or a public relations move. Go out to LA someday and try to get into one of their police facilities or parking lots and see how far you get. I cannot say anything about NY, never been to their bldgs.
Yes, I do not understand why all the house mouses at 35th and Michigan get so much security for their parking lot while at all other police facilities there is no parking lot security in place. Once again we deal with the issues of double standards.
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The point is not that 35th shouldn't be secure.....ALL OF US SHOULD BE SECURE IN OUR WORKPLACES. That seems to me to be a basic right for employees. Try walking into IBM HQ, or Boeing, or a fucking bank. Aren't we as valuable commodity as computers, airplanes or money for fuck sake?
If we had proper facilities and secure buildings and lots, P.O. Soderburg would be alive today. Think about that you penny pinching, public appeasing fucks that run this city. How the fuck do the people who made these decisions sleep at night?
For the Superintendent of Police to make such a stupid and ill informed comment shows that either he really does not know what is going on, he does not care or he is afraid of saying something that the Mayor does not like. I have called for an independent security professional to make an evaluation of each police bldg and parking lot in the past, not some secret service of FBI agent who does not know jack about the security industry, but a private sector professional. It might be worth it for the FOP to hire such an individual and take him on a covert security evaluation of a couple of the bldgs and publish his report . That might open a few eyes!! and embarass the city into doing somnething. The press just eats up the mayors and J-Fleds bullshit and never investigates for themselves. Maybe the Reader would publish such a report along with photos? They do more good work then anyone else in this town.I am so glad I am retired and so sorry for those who have to continue to endure the travesty that Daley and the reverands have created. With everything that has happened in the past few years the heart and soul of the police department has been ripped out.
Do you really thinks anyone in city hall or 35th Michigan care for you as a police slave to the department the answer is no they don't we do everything which is asked of us cause its our jobs but they only worry about themselves
they wait for something to happen to anyone they care about then the systems changes. stay safe and again look out for each others officers we are a few so we should stick like glue to each other look after your fellow officer whether you like it or not please help each other cause the bosses do they stick like glue we are a few so let show we can all go home safe to the family . god bless
try to get next to Daleys house and see haw safe it is.Police everwhere
The most important thing to remember is this wouldn't have happened had Thor had a locker available to him in the old 007th dist!!!!! How many people have a locker at TRU???? The answer is very few!!
The security is woeful at best at all of our stations but places like 013, 012, and the old 007 are the worst. The areas are a close second. Think of how vulnerable the desk crew is at Chicago Police Facility. The areas have two access doors and that doesn't include other doors should somebody sneak in.
I have never been to a suburban station that has direct access for the public. The Mayor should remember that Police officers are hated by many for no reason. Government itself is hated by many. The Police are the easiest target to access for a nutjob!
I HOPE HIS FAMILY SUES THE FUCK OUT OF DALEY AND WEIS FOR BEING ILL PREPARED AND NOT CONCERNED TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS FOR THE WELL BEING OF HIS OFFICERS. IT;S A SHAME A POLICE OFFICER HAS TO CHANGE BY HIS CAR. THIRD COUNTRY POLICE DEPARTMENT.
O.T.
Anybody see Ozzie Guillen wearing a Chicago Police baseball cap at the post game press confrence sunday. nice to see that.last year he also wrote "OPD" on his game hat to remember the four slain police officers in Oakland.
He also had a CPD hat on the day of the St. Jude march. GO SOX.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
4 shitheads gd "s from southside arrested 017 parking lot, not sure why they were there
7/12/2010 12:44:00 PM
The Gangster Disciples are setting up base in 017 and 024. 017 is quickly turning into a shithole.
Stay at the computer and get the Illinois state IDOL web site, that's the Dept.of Labor, and go to the safety area to download a complaint form. All the info is there and this covers public employees and their workplaces.
If EVERYONE complains about EVERYPLACE someone has got to notice.
It worked for the CFD.
when they bond these assholes out they let them out the back door and into our LOTS. WTF kind of shit system is that?
"How about they privatize the police lots? Daley would love to get that money too. Then they could be patrolled by revenue or some "connected" firm-
7/12/2010 03:11:00 PM"
and THAT would improve security?
Shirley you jest.
To 10:31 a.m. post:
You're absolutely correct. In 009 we have a certain notorious female medical/IOD abuser. She's currently been IOD for over 11 months for what started off as some bullshit hand injury. While she's been off for these 11 months she's been seen falling off bar stools,vacationing and even riding on the back of a motorcycle with both arms extended behind her. Rumor has it she's seeking disability. Disability my ass! She's scamming the system plain and simple and has been doing it for numerous years. Where is this medical integrity unit? If the medical integrity unit reads this blog she's a f/2 who works in 009 and went IOD around the 1st week of August 2009.
Am I the only one who remembers more than a few years ago, there was a threat against A4/011? They threatened to use a RPG (rocket propelled grenade for the uninformed) and blow up the 11th District. The Dept.'s answer was to move all the squad cars across Kedzie, and put up the blue wodden barriers along Harrison St. I'm sure those abarriers would prevent an RPG fired from across the Eisenhower Xpy from hitting the building. They didn't have the sense to realize the metal squad cars formed some level of protection against an attack. But no, they put up the wooden "POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS" horses. I guess the fact that nobody carried out that particular threat was foiled by the wooden boards. Yea right.
Station security? couple of years ago a misfit wanders into the 023rd dist station, goes upstairs into locker room? A total Police hater/ fighter!
Same station had a guy shot right at the front desk as he entered station wielding a knife. Several P.O's vehicles vandalized in the parking lot!
Your local currency exchange has better security than a damn Police station in this city!
How said!
Just had a thought. I was out of the academy and on the job a couple of months back in 68 and assigned to 21. The pax was on the wall opposite the front door (they moved the pax but still have the same front door). A guy came in and shot and killed the desk Sgt. The guy didn't say a word just upped and shot him. A tact guy was coming down the stairs and blew the shooter away. Now this is what, 40 some odd years ago and security is the same. Nothing has changed.
Hell the comcast killer worked out in the 006th dist. Sex , drinking , fighting in our stations and parking lots. A JOKE with regard to security !!!!!!!
@ 7/12/2010 02:27:00 AM
Not everyone in this town thats a Democrat Hates Cops, you dumbshit.
This isn't about Politics, in case you'd care to pay attention.
Its about having the stupid sheep in this city Either NOT Vote against Daley, or they Keep Voting For him.
I'm sorry SCC...I hate ignorant morons in any department.
Today while leaving the 1st district I noticed the landscaping crew from Christy Webber. Ive dealt with Webber on a burglary of equiptment. Turned out that she hired all convicted felons, one of which helped himself to the equiptment. Can someone find out if she still hires convictrd felons and of so why are they allowed to roam around police facilities and parking lots.
Anonymous said...
Why doesn't someone ask Roti about p.o.'s being forced to park their "personal" vehicles in that highly secured west lot of Homan Square, or better yet right there on the street, and then walk alone about a block to the entrance door.
7/12/2010 03:41:00 PM
I'm no Roti supporter, but if you can't walk a block alone on the West Side, you need to find another line of work.
We have signs up at our station that say "police parking only" and "this lot under video surveillance of the Chicago Police Department" ......But that's all we have...signs. The cameras are trained on the locked doors only accessible by key (which only the commanders office has)
OT - Heard that the walgreens on 111th and Kedzie is going to be converted to a public aid office....anyone know if this is true?
Anonymous said...
FACE IT !
the cpd is not a professional organization.
just a bunch of political hacks with guns.
7/12/2010 02:02:00 AM
TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN!!!
One of the major problems in this dept. is that shitty hall dictates on how the police does their biz.
If we had a top-notch super he/she would demand that each and every station is protected, not only by fences, but guards....just the 35th street. Thor would be alive today if there were more hires and not the "band-aid" solutions they have in place. RIP my friend.
Why doesn't someone ask Roti about p.o.'s being forced to park their "personal" vehicles in that highly secured west lot of Homan Square, or better yet right there on the street, and then walk alone about a block to the entrance
...that set up is terrible. That lot should be guarded if anything like the take-homes and UC cars across the street.
Glad that the old 007 that is supposed to be secure uses outdated key card technology, you lose the card, you lose access. How about a keypad to go with it like in the new 007?
Did anyone else see J-FLED and the gun registration sergeant on the news today in regards to handgun registration? They were like dumb and dumber deers caught in the headlights. What a joke. Why did they even bother? Neither knew the answers to the media's questions about handgun registration and neither could even credibly punt. What a joke. Jody is just stupid, but that sergeant should resign or retire or never go on camera again.
How many sergeants are taking the 55 and out?
7/12/2010 04:09:00 PM
Must be more than expected because memo came out at about 1900 hrs asking for merit! I hope they make more then 30 like last class.
This is not a rumor!
Several people have walked into the AREA 2 police station with guns in plastic bags wanting to register them. The desk turned them away. What I want to know is were those guns loaded? Now it is really getting scary. There is a rumor going around that the honest joe citizen believes since Chicago has this new gun ban lifted, they can bring the guns out in public to the police stations to register them. Good grief.
There is a STRONG rumor that Downtown EB is none too happy with both Georgas and Ryan. The grudge with Georgas goes back a while but Ryan has to do with security (or lack of) at the TRU building.
Watch for Georgas to go to A/3 as Dep Chief, (Rottner had residency issues), and Ryan to go to Capt in 008.
Alexander will take Georgas spot and the new commander of TRU will be the the old commander of TRU. (Sorry Eli not you) it will be none other than TW from 008.
You heard it here first!!
Ryan is a Lt. by Career Service so he won't be a Captain, it wouldn't surprise me if EB tries something similar, so he can get rid of more white bosses, so let's see, moving Dana lateral to SF would be a reward for what? as Commander of 004 and as D/C of A2 he's done what to combat the out-of-control violence down there? and bring back TW? now that would be a joke, that guy was so in over his head it was laughable.. nothing would surprise me.
7/12/2010 01:34:00 PM
I would love to see more TW temper tantrums. EB gets dumped you heard it here.
I'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS!!!! I've had homeless mutts and gangbangers approach me in the police parking lot asking for rides after their released from the station. They let homeless people wonder around all the stations. They are all over the south side districts like zombies. There is no security at our stations. That's why you have juviniles getting in and playing police for the day. HQ and J-Fled has security, why don't we??? It's BULL SHIT!!! I wish the news would report on this.
What happened to the SECRET SERVICE improving are station security after the kid played cop for a day?????
There is a STRONG rumor that Downtown EB is none too happy with both Georgas and Ryan. The grudge with Georgas goes back a while but Ryan has to do with security (or lack of) at the TRU building.
Watch for Georgas to go to A/3 as Dep Chief, (Rottner had residency issues), and Ryan to go to Capt in 008.
Alexander will take Georgas spot and the new commander of TRU will be the the old commander of TRU. (Sorry Eli not you) it will be none other than TW from 008.
You heard it here first!!
Ryan is a Lt. by Career Service so he won't be a Captain, it wouldn't surprise me if EB tries something similar, so he can get rid of more white bosses, so let's see, moving Dana lateral to SF would be a reward for what? as Commander of 004 and as D/C of A2 he's done what to combat the out-of-control violence down there? and bring back TW? now that would be a joke, that guy was so in over his head it was laughable.. nothing would surprise me.
7/12/2010 01:34:00 PM
I think Ryan picked up the second bar shortly before he was promoted to Commander.
Ryan was dealt a shitty hand more than a few times; thankfully nothing went too bad, up till now. Hopefully he won’t get fucked over this. Regardless of personal feelings that some have about this man, he was and is THE POLICE! Heavy; oh hell yes! but the POLICE!
"T-Dub"? That fucking moron! I'm positive he has "breathe" tattooed somewhere, just to remind him what to do!
You hit the nail on the head with the “so he can get rid of more white bosses”. He’ll keep one or two, just because… but the rest, they are screwed! Just wait till he makes Supt.!!!!!
Ryan is a Lt. by Career Service so he won't be a Captain,
Ryan most certainly was a Captain and will return to that rank if they demote him...
The facility at 61 and Racine, has card or key access for persons assigned there. Anyone working OPY, what Officer Soderberg was working, has to knock on the door to be gain entrance or piggyback when another p.o. is entering. We need a more secure way of getting into the building. The next knock at the door could be a "Crazy" with a loaded gun.
3deep? You still are the police u know!
7/12/2010 05:26:00 PM
Yes we are the police, that doesn't mean we should never get to be safe... geez, we just had a police officer murdered right outside a police station... lot a good being the police did him huh? ( sorry if that is insensitive, but so is the original posters comment if not more so) What is your point? Our point is that we should be afforded the same security anyone else has, we shouldn't have to shoot our way to our vehicles at the end of our tour.
Check this out. Stop, Question, and frisk
A Few Blocks, 4 Years, 52,000 Police Stops
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/12/nyregion/12frisk.html?_r=1&nl=nyregion&emc=ura1
"and THAT would improve security?
Shirley you jest."
Why.. yes, I was jesting-
and don't call me Shirley!
I am Capt. Over
my small shitty USMC reserve station on foster ave has better security. we have fences all around, barb wire, cameras, gates with codes, doors inside with codes etc. I dont understand how simple security measures are not taken at stations in areas that have extremely high crime. Some of these basic security measures arnt even very expensive. fencing and barb wire dosnt run much, im sure you can find the money in J-fleds extremely overpaid yearly income. I dont even work in 007 but id even donate whatever i could to get the project started. im sure you can find civilians that would as well. I assumed basic level security would be a priority, i feel like a dumbass myself. How many dangerous incidents or po lives need to be lost for j fled and the brass to man up and fix this? anyone been to glenviews new station? that place is a fortress. J-fled also apparently does "ride alongs" why dosnt he come down to 007 and hang out a bit, maybe work there for a day or two? LEAD BY EXAMPLE shitbag
No, Ryan is a Captain. He was a Lt in Detached Svcs (park district) then made Captain and went to either 008 or 022 cant remember but it wasnt long)
and since when do Alexanders accomplishements (lol) justify his promotions.
Ryan is a Capt and moving him back would be a GIFT!..... and u can take TW to TRU or anywhere else.....what an excuse for a total waist of a uniform....the guy shouldnt have been a Sgt...not a cmrd...EB wants that Supt job so bad he can taste it....
station security..... we cant even get a cop to drive through our lots or run a plate..... we have given up, even on ourselves.... so sad...we are all we have... eachother.... us against them
if what they did to Dugan was any indication ...well whats to save.... only a hand full of bosses left 012 DK.... 08 Kup....
Why doesn't someone ask Roti about p.o.'s being forced to park their "personal" vehicles in that highly secured west lot of Homan Square, or better yet right there on the street, and then walk alone about a block to the entrance door.
7/12/2010 03:41:00 PM
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Dude your the fucking police!!!!!! What the fuck you think we did back in the day????
The crap about the commander getting fired over the security at racine is nonsense. I know for a fact that he and his staff made many requests, suggestions. Damn near begged that security be improved. They got stroked evry time. Theres a bunch of us that have had to do 'work' on that building before and after they moved in and even we thought it was a joke that they were making the cops work like that. What a dump. We had a job to do and did it best we could with what they gave, but damn- they sure tried hard to sell that pig in a dress. It's not the first time I've seen other city workers jagged by 'the budget' but this was ajoke. Theirs a very heavy woman-director that calls the shots on that stuff, holds the purse strings and she's a nasty one. Wouldn't give a damn about a cop or anyone else in this shithole city- only her spot and the power she waves around.
'Ryan is a Capt and moving him back would be a GIFT!..... and u can take TW to TRU or anywhere else.....what an excuse for a total waist of a uniform....the guy shouldnt have been a Sgt...not a cmrd...EB wants that Supt job so bad he can taste it....'
I'll admit Capt. TW isn't (or wasn't) a very well liked guy when he made exempt. But I'm willing to bet that the stats in TRU didn't change much, if at all, with the change in leadership from Williams to Ryan. I'm even willing to bet the stats have dropped. From what I hear, TW is well liked as a WC over in 008. He's certainly no more incompetent than what is currently leading this Dept. today. Can anyone say with a straight face that Roy or Alvarado are any better? Or the cmdrs of A/4, where overtime theft resulted in just about every Sgt. run out of the place? It is likely that EB will make moves to reinstate TW to the exempt ranks.
So be it. EB apparently has been forgiven all of his formidable sins with the powers that be, and TW doesn't have any of THAT baggage on his career. The only thing that may stand in EB's way of running JJ out of town and/or becoming the next top cop seens to be Masters (x3).
Dude your the fucking police!!!!!! What the fuck you think we did back in the day????
7/12/2010 11:52:00 PM
"Back in the day"?
SHHHHHIIIIIIITTTTTTT!!!
Try it now and see waht the fuck happens to you! Indicted, tossed in prison is some shit-hole fed pen.
That was then, this is now. Aint worth risking my pension, freedom or family's saftey some mope on the corner.
Glad that the old 007 that is supposed to be secure uses outdated key card technology, you lose the card, you lose access. How about a keypad to go with it like in the new 007?
How about if your a visitor there you have to bang on the door to get in???? Or call on the phone!!! If the officer had a chance to get away, he couldnt...doors locked. BTW one of the bullets that when through the metal sheeting that replaced glass on the front has a bullet hole in it from the offender and into the door to the downstairs locker room...so much for the metal sheeting, good thing no copper was standing there!
and since when do Alexanders accomplishements (lol) justify his promotions.
since his clout, Dana Starks and the west side reverneds, say so !
I hope he does get assigned to another area, so he can take his underworked overstaffed band of idiotic incompetent desk dollies with him !Between the crime and his staff, area 2 is permanently kaput! The most violent area in the country let alone the city!
lETS TAKE THE BULL BUY THE HORN AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PARKING LOT SECURITY ISSUE. EACH CAR DOES 10 MINUTES IN THE LOT IF FEASIBLE. vISIBLE PRSENCE IN THE LOT WOULD CUT DOWN ON THE BS GOING ON.
Anonymous said...
Fallen Officer Valadez had a street named after him today. An "Honorary Street," but nonetheless still a nice tribute. SCC, this begs a question that maybe you could address. When is the last time this city actually renamed a street for a fallen Chicago Police officer? With all the streets in Chicago named after 100 year old denizens of Chicago's past, why can't the City of Chicago actually "rename" a street for a fallen Chicago Police Officer? Or at least rename one street to collectively honor the true heroes of the City's past.
7/12/2010 02:18:00 AM
Great idea, but Alex is not alone.
The front of the 018 District was renamed in honor of Sgt. James Severin and PO Anthony Rizzato, a few years back.(EOW July 1970.)
There are, among some others, street signs for Brian Strouse and Rick Francis that I'm aware of as well.
Great idea though to... Honor Our Fallen
o'v(r)
How about a few weeks ago when the 011th District received a threat that a man (I'll leave his name out) was going to walk into 011 and kill police officers when they asked him "Can I help you?". What security measures were taken?....a fax with the guy's info was disrtibuted to other stations. I guess the fax paper is bulletproof and we are supposed to hold it up in front of us if he comes in.
Several people have walked into the AREA 2 police station with guns in plastic bags wanting to register them. The desk turned them away.
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You might think that after the first one an informational sign would have been posted on the door to alert people who might have misunderstood the new ordinance.
Police Stations should be unfriendly and forbidding places...
For everything else, rent a fucking hall!
AMEN!
and THAT would improve security?
Shirley you jest.
No.
And don't call me Shirley.
For all you dogs, please know that the real Officers you work with know each and every one of you.
Oooooooo........I'm scared! The REAL POLICE read this blog? My GOD! Why are you wasting time here when you can be locking up a piss bum to secure your spot, most likely on some tact team.
(Sarcasm off)
You do have a point and at one time I would have agreed with you 100%. But in the last few years, I've seen several REAL POLICE go from the hard charging, lock 'em up type to taking the summer off because of an "alleged" IOD.
I guess my point is just be careful about what you say about your fellow officers. While some are milking the system, there are others that are legitimately injured.
We are all getting old and an injury suffered at 2 years on the job may not result in an IOD. But get that same injury after 20 years and the results will be different.
Anonymous said...
Whatever happened to the station security evalutions Jody was gonna get from his fed buddies at the secret service after the 14 y.o. incident in the 3rd district????
7/12/2010 01:13:00 AM
They are filed next to the results of the morale survey
The poster who stated the desk sgt. was killed in 021 is wrong. I was working that day, the desk sgt. was Jones. He was shot six times with a 25 auto and survived to be promoted to Lt. He passed away three years ago. The tact guy did not kill the offender, who was a recluse ,could not unbotton his coat to get to his gun so he had to duck into the hallway and returned when he unholstered. Up until that time desk officers and officers assigned to the front office ( only 3 of them) were not armed by choice. Sgt. Jones carried a .38 snub in his pants pocket. Sgt. Jones pulled his revolver from his front pants pocket while laying on the floor wounded and killed the offender shooting him in the neck. Sgt.Jones was a friend of mine and agreat guy.
3deep? You still are the police u know!
7/12/2010 05:26:00 PM
FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING PUSSY-ASS BITCH OF A PHONY TOUGH GUY!!! OBVIOUSLY YOU WILL BE THE NEXT VICTIM OF A HIGHLY MOTIVATED PSYCHOPATH HELL-BENT ON DESTROYING YOU. NOT ONE PERSON ON THIS DEPARTMENT IS A FUCKING SUPERMAN, AND I GUARANTEE YOU THAT IF YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE, WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY DO, THEN YOU WILL BE KILLED OR SERIOUSLY HURT AND POSSIBLY DISABLED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
'NUFF SAID.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why doesn't someone ask Roti about p.o.'s being forced to park their "personal" vehicles in that highly secured west lot of Homan Square, or better yet right there on the street, and then walk alone about a block to the entrance door.
Maybe we can get Cmdr. Roti to hold your hand on that walk to work.. Get back inside desk dolly!!
I work over at 6120 Racine and I'm seriously considering having some fence companies come out and give us a quote on what it would cost to secure that lot. Then try and start a kitty between us po's to pay for it. Pretty sad.
Unfortunately, the department hasn't taken security at the stations seriously in a very long time.
If my memory is correct, wasn't there an incident 5 or 10 years ago in Chicago when some nut came into a station, and pulled a gun on the officer at the desk? The guy tried to shoot a few of those by the desk, but his gun jammed. Then he was tackled by the officer at the desk after the other offices dove for cover.
"Back in the day"?
SHHHHHIIIIIIITTTTTTT!!!
Try it now and see waht the fuck happens to you! Indicted, tossed in prison is some shit-hole fed pen.
That was then, this is now. Aint worth risking my pension, freedom or family's saftey some mope on the corner.
7/13/2010 12:51:00 AM
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Dont be a pussy, nobody told you to sacrafice your pension or family. There used to be district stations the old 006, 007, 008, 009, taht had no parking lots, you parked on the street and walked to the building. You do carry afucking gun dont you????
First, let me say my sympathies and prayers go out to Officer Soderberg's family and friends.
I mean no disrespect to any officer when I say this "Your personal safety, and that of your partner is up to each individual officer. Whether you are in uniform or not; be aware of your surroundings and the persons near you. A persons's body language can tell you a lot (eyes, hands and demeanor). Be prepared for that one in a thousand unprovoked attack, and be proficient in one or two reliable moves that will allow you to break free. And of course fearing for your life; get your Sig out and send him to hell for breakfast. All the best to you and your families. Peter F. Dignan, Ret. Lt. (CPD)
Dude your the fucking police!!!!!! What the fuck you think we did back in the day????
7/12/2010 11:52:00 PM
"Back in the day"?
SHHHHHIIIIIIITTTTTTT!!!
Try it now and see waht the fuck happens to you! Indicted, tossed in prison is some shit-hole fed pen.
That was then, this is now. Aint worth risking my pension, freedom or family's saftey some mope on the corner.
7/13/2010 12:51:00 AM
Be prepared to defend yourself. We are the police, not office workers. Even if you feel that you have no enemies, remember you are wearing the uniform of a police officer.
None of the lights in the rear and on the east side of Area 4 work. The lights over the main entrance only are half on. I'm sure they will fix it once something happens to an officer entering or leaving Area 4.
There is a STRONG rumor that Downtown EB is none too happy with both Georgas and Ryan. The grudge with Georgas goes back a while but Ryan has to do with security (or lack of) at the TRU building.
Watch for Georgas to go to A/3 as Dep Chief, (Rottner had residency issues), and Ryan to go to Capt in 008.
Alexander will take Georgas spot and the new commander of TRU will be the the old commander of TRU. (Sorry Eli not you) it will be none other than TW from 008.
You heard it here first!!
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I pray from ytour mouthb to God's ears
How about all the mentally ill homeless piss pants shit ass bums, men and women, one of which killed a police officer across the street from the station?
We are prevented from throwing them out. "It is open to the public" we are told by our suckhole commander who still comes in to work while taking his 52 unpaid furlough days.
What can you expect from people like that? The gold star is worth so much to them they won't say "shove it" even when they are losing money, losing seniority and having their seniority date changed.
Anonymous said.... Sex , drinking , fighting in our stations....
7/12/2010 09:10:00 PM
"two out of three ain't bad"
Anonymous said...
Several people have walked into the AREA 2 police station with guns in plastic bags wanting to register them. The desk turned them away.
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You might think that after the first one an informational sign would have been posted on the door to alert people who might have misunderstood the new ordinance.
7/13/2010 08:26:00 AM
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Nobody thinks like that anymore. They'll all complain, and maybe somebody will leave a note for the District Manager who will then contact somebody downtown to put in an order for a sign. Several months later, a sign will arrive with numerous mispellings and giving the wrong information so another sign will have to be ordered. The new one will eventually show up and found to have no hooks or adhesive or whatever to hang it up with so another order will have to be put in for that. Then, somewhere down the road, somebody will show up from buildings to hang the sign. By this time, the district manager will have either retired or transferred and the new one, if there is one, will have no idea what the guy is talking about when he shows up, won't be able to find the sign and the hooks or adhesives will be holding something together in the station that has broken.
Understand this if Thor would of overpowered this Mutt and shot and killed him. Weis would be calling for a special grand jury to indict Officer Soderberg.
"7/14/2010 02:33:00 AM"
fubar
NICK WONT HOLD ANYONE'S HAND , I ALREADY ASKED HIM AND WAS TOLD NO. THEN I ASKED HIM FOR A SPOT AND HE SAID MAYBE.
"How safe is your station?" If Soderberg were here today, we can safely assume he would say, "not safe enough."
I was driving in the 14 th district last night and pulled up at the light to one of the unmarked cars and the male passenger was passed out sleeping. How safe is 14, not to safe! Hey a**hole wake the f*ck up.
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