Security Step #1
Here's a bit of free advice for J-Fled and the Policy Group (hey, that's a catchy name for a band!):
- Create and enforce an order that forbids the homeless from camping out in stations.
These people don't belong in police facilities. Yeah, we know the mayor has declared police stations "warming centers." And lord knows what these zombies bring into stations - TB, hepatitis, lice, scabies, all manner of parasitic infestation and pathogens of all shapes and sizes. And that's not even taking into consideration their mental states, many of whom are full blown schizophrenic or bi-polar or full-on-nut-cases.
How many votes does the Bum Union actually control that their executive board has to camp out in police lobbies all the time?
How many votes does the Bum Union actually control that their executive board has to camp out in police lobbies all the time?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
72 Comments:
I recall a few years ago while working in 007, a guy shinning shoes. He was a skinny m/1, late 20's or early mid 30's in age. He would be outside the roll call room, in the halls or outside the building and all with permission from someone supposedly. Finally someone took it upon themselves to look this guy up which revealed a lenthy rap sheep.
Well just tonight as I am walking into the academy for a class, guess who I see near the front doors shinning shoes? This same asshole that I saw in 007. I thought to myself how much of a slap in the face it is especially since we just los one of our own do to a security issue.
I hope anyone working at the academy does something about this guy and orders him off the property. And if he has permission, why would a career criminal be allowed to set up shop in what should be a secure facility?
Several people have walked into the AREA 2 police station with guns in plastic bags wanting to register them. The desk turned them away. What I want to know is were those guns loaded? Now it is really getting scary. There is a rumor going around that the honest joe citizen believes since Chicago has this new gun ban lifted, they can bring the guns out in public to the police stations to register them. Good grief.
7/12/2010 10:51:00 PM
SOMEONE, AND I MEAN SOMEONE BETTER LOOK INTO THIS BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT. JUST TODAY, WE WERE TOLD THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE SOUTHSIDE HAVE BEEN BRINGING GUNS INTO THE STATIONS TO GET THEM REGISTERED. THE CITIZENS ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS INFORMATION AND THINK THAT THERE IS NO PROBLEM BRINGING THEIR HANDGUNS INTO THE STATION. AND THERE IS NO BULLETPROOF GLASS IN THE STATIONS TO STOP THE IGNORANT CITIZENS GOOF-UPS. WHAT A MESS. STUPID PEOPLE WITH GUNS NOW.
If Dictator Daley gave a fuck about us he would have built the new stations like all the suburbs and the rest of the departments across the country with tight security. Now get for his BS speach to the fallen officer's family trying to act like he cares for 1 hour. He will just read from his copy of all his other speaches but change the names.
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
P.O. Rick Francis (RIP) was murdered by one such crazy bitch that used to live under the stairs in 019.
Dear scc: that's a good one. " J-Fled & the Policy Group starring in the Smoke and Mirrors Tour"
SCC said...
How many votes does the Bum Union actually control that their executive board has to camp out in police lobbies all the time?
Frickin' HILARIOUS!!!!
Maybe the WC is their CEO?
has anyone ever walked into a suburban police station??? very small lobby....few or no seats...must be buzzed into the secure area..dispatchers/police/desk personnel are behind a secure door/glass. im sure there are some exceptions, but anyone can walk almost anywhere unchecked into a chicago police staion
well that a racist thing to say bring the homeless to your house
that the mayor daley problem they have to go somewhere how stupid can someone be to post that remark on here homeless have nothing to do with it mental people do complain to 311 about this .
To the below poster or more than likely troller...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
I'll let the crazy, lice infested scab-laden, TB coughing, homeless person hang in our station (since according to you it's a 'right') right after he/she is allowed in City Hall at any time of the day or night. Asshat*
*term credit to SCC
I recall a few years ago while working in 007, a guy shinning shoes. He was a skinny m/1, late 20's or early mid 30's in age. He would be outside the roll call room, in the halls or outside the building and all with permission from someone supposedly. Finally someone took it upon themselves to look this guy up which revealed a lenthy rap sheep.
Well just tonight as I am walking into the academy for a class, guess who I see near the front doors shinning shoes? This same asshole that I saw in 007. I thought to myself how much of a slap in the face it is especially since we just los one of our own do to a security issue.
I hope anyone working at the academy does something about this guy and orders him off the property. And if he has permission, why would a career criminal be allowed to set up shop in what should be a secure facility?
7/13/2010 12:16:00 AM
Are you talking about Frosty? Sure sounds like him. Maybe not, nonetheless Frosty use to always be in 003 roaming the halls. Finally someone pinched him with crack and he hasn't been seen since. I always didn't trust that guy. Don't know why other POs did.
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this.
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Oh, brother. How long have you been out of touch with reality? Why don't you just have a glass of warm milk and lie down. The doctor will see you shortly.
The Mayor values the Bum Vote more than he does the Police Vote.
Each Schitzo can vote a many times as her or she has personalities.
The cost of the Ripple and chicken for the homeless has gone up but at least they can be counted as they are all regestered at their shelter or local public park.
The Police Vote would be too costly, decent raises, equipment, morall backing and all the rest just cost too much for a group that only votes 25% of the time.
Next election we need to dump Shorty, the Messiah and all the rest. We need to make the politicians FEAR US.
I have a real problem with the TMA's having unfettered access to pretty much the entire 001 district. I guarantee there are some IR numbers scattered in there, not to mention how many relatives that have been locked up. In and out the back door only, and they need to install another secure door in the hallway before traffic and central D.(away from the sinkhole) Then change the codes for all the doors.
And along those same lines, they carry the same radios as we do(CW7), what's to say that momma won't come back one day after telling her supervisor she got "robbed" and they took my radio.
Policy Group?
I hope anyone working at the academy does something about this guy and orders him off the property.
???????????????????????????
Did you even notify "anyone working at the academy about this guy"?
And, uh, aren't you a police officer? So why exactly didn't YOU order him off the property? Especially when you had personal knowledge of what happened in 007 and this guy's "lengthy rap sheet?"
Nice work.
Dear scc: that's a good one. " J-Fled & the Policy Group starring in the Smoke and Mirrors Tour"
7/13/2010 02:42:00 AM
Warm up band - Masters and the Little Pistols with special guest 42 Short.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM
Hoping your just being factitious!!
Anonymous said...
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
Another ignorant statement from a liberal do gooder.... you are wrong try walking into or driving onto a USMC facility which is public property
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
Ah......no. Just because a building is built with public funds does not automatically give a person the right to be there. If you have business there, that's one thing. But if you decide that you just want to camp out because you feel like it then that's an entirely different matter. If you are asked to leave and you refuse then you are trespassing and could be arrested and charged.
Bum Union Rule #1.
Each Bum must vote Dem in 4 precincts to qualify for a pint of Thunderbird.
Or has it changed to Courvosier with the new national leader?
I still remember being in branch court when a guy's case got called. He had walked into the 014station through the back door off the parking lot and got into a fight with two officers inside. No one bothered to show up for court and the charges were dropped. Lucky no one got seriously hurt. Lock the door already.
has anyone ever walked into a suburban police station??? very small lobby....few or no seats...must be buzzed into the secure area..dispatchers/police/desk personnel are behind a secure door/glass. im sure there are some exceptions, but anyone can walk almost anywhere unchecked into a chicago police staion
That's because ShortShanks wants us to be the warm and fuzzy police.
He wants his city to operate on an OPEN DOOR POLICY. Give his constituents access to everything. Well, everything but the Mayor's office. Oh, and try and get in touch with one of the 50 thieves and you could die of old age.
A previous poster stated that if a public building is built with public funds, then anyone can gain access, regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have.
Do you seriously think this would be the case if it involved the Mayor or an aldercreature?
I guess the rules are different since I've handled many calls at the local aldercreature's office. Moore must have a direct line to the commanders office because the job will come from the desk crew. Many times I have answered calls there with his staff wanting someone removed because they were causing a scene.
Anonymous said...
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM
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A few years ago, I had occasion to walk into the Blue Island police station ON DUTY IN FULL UNIFORM. The "lobby" was about 20'x20' with 2 benches and a pay phone. That's it! I spoke to the woman behind the bulletproof glass, and told her who I was there to see and was told to take a seat an that the Officer would have to come out to get me. Although I was in uniform working, I had to be escorted back by the Officer I was there to meet.
Why can't we have that protection??
12.43 is nuts after retiring I moved out of state to a small city. If you go into the police station during normal business hours its like going into a currency exchange (window with a clerk behind it). There is no place to sit, or loiter. If you need a report they direct you to a phone in the hallway, you call 911 and wait outside for a police car. If its on the weekend or non business hours there is a phone outside on the wall and you call inside then wait outside until an officer comes outside or drives up. At no time are you allowed inside the station.
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
Hey Asshat, we have a right to be secure in our station building and grounds. I get in a regular argument in my station when I ask the desk crew to get rid of the scumbags that hang out in the entranceway and They give me grief when I shag them.
Anonymous said...
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM
2111 W Roosevelt is a public building---try to see how comfy the chairs in the lobby are.
Why aren't the homeless camping out at city hall or 35th St HQ???????
What's good for the goose or apparently in the case not!!!!
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM
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Who the fuck is this idiot??? If you are not on police business when you are in my station when I am desk sergeant, you either leave or go to jail for cttssl. If you use profanity, you're out. If you use your cell phone without permission, you're out. If you disturb other citizens in the station, you're out. Sergeants need to grab their fucking balls and earn that pay. Make a fucking decision and stop being scared of you're own shadow. Check the parking lots! If we can't secure our own buildings and parking lots, something's wrong with US.
"Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this.."
Spoken with the cognitive diseased, liberal, fucked up faux brain you have. Retard!
"Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM"
then how come we all can't take turns sitting in the mayor's chair, with or without cutting wet farts?
P.O. Rick Francis (RIP) was murdered by one such crazy bitch that used to live under the stairs in 019.
7/13/2010 01:57:00 AM
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Was just going to post the same thing. Let's add that she was a very nice, quiet lady most of the time, unless she was off her meds. Problem is, we're not the psychic police, and shouldn't have to risk our lives to know if these people are off their meds or off their rockers on any given day.
How about the mental that slept up in the 24th district lobby for years, then goes over to the 14th district on Fullerton and walks up to a guy and shoots him in the head and kills him on Fullerton. Offender is then captured on the EL, headed back to 24 with two guns.
I bet the bum union gets them more than 2%!
"And that's not even taking into consideration their mental states, many of whom are full blown schizophrenic or bi-polar or full-on-nut-cases."
And thankfully the meds she takes are working. See you when we return from furlo!
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this.
Great, go to the FBI building 2111 W. Roosevelt and try to take a seat inside the building. Afterward, be kind and post what happened.
Same guy used to take naps in the old gym in the basement of A/1.
keep lobby of city hall , aldercreatures , public schools and fire houses open for homeless
not police stations
Maybe they should sleep out in front of Daley's house!!! Good for us should be good for him!!
Anonymous said...
has anyone ever walked into a suburban police station??? very small lobby....few or no seats...must be buzzed into the secure area..dispatchers/police/desk personnel are behind a secure door/glass. im sure there are some exceptions, but anyone can walk almost anywhere unchecked into a chicago police staion
I like the 2 foot high "desk" that the traffic section has.
I only saw it recently for the first time while working CTA at 18 & State.
Check it out.
UIC PD has secure parking and bulletproof glass, and that's an old CPD facility they renovated 10 years ago.
The pissbum hobo & tramp unions (PHT Local 1) have been "voting" for decades. Jesse Jackson/PUSH is the Official registrar for Pacific Gardens Mission. They make the mayors, aldermen and now presidents.
The only security we have is our common sense, holster your OD weapon & cover it, don't leave equipment in cars, look around as your leave the bldg and getting home.
KB will take your suggestion under consideration. Thanks for the input, now get back to work!
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM
Assface how about they sit on the sidewalk in front of your house. It's the public way and you don't own it. You would start crying and put up a hissy fit. Shut your mouth liberal puss you don't know what your talking about.
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM
Once again, you are wrong dickhead!!! Now tell me how my post is full of arrogance, hate and smothered in fear.
SOMEONE, AND I MEAN SOMEONE BETTER LOOK INTO THIS BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT. JUST TODAY, WE WERE TOLD THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE SOUTHSIDE HAVE BEEN BRINGING GUNS
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Well I hope that you at least conducted some fucking type of investigation, like a name check perhaps, or better yet a FOID card check before you let them leave with their weapon. YOU STILL ARE THE FUCKING POLICE AREN'T YOU??????
Yeah, ask Don B., 2/W in 011 about the crazy fuck that leapt over the desk to attack him a few weeks back. Officer was slightly injured. Took out a computer in the process. Then continued into the review office, knocking shit off desks and threatening bodily harm. Dude had to be tazed by a sergeant, then "involuntarily admitted" for the 72 hours as allowed by law. Came back into the station on the fourth day talking shit AGAIN.
The ONLY good thing that might have come out of this deal was that dude could've stormed into Henny Penny's office and fucked her up, too. Ooops, my bad. She was still fighting her case at that time. Too bad he didn't make it in to that office, Aguinaga would've killed him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM
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Let's not get carried away with the public building shit, doofus. Try going to the White House and "having a seat". Or better yet, any federal building. Or courthouse.
Built with tax dollars and "owned" by the public, right?
Yep, jes' put up your feet and take a load off where ever you please.
There are some legitimate security measures that can be taken without appearing unduly hostile, or even spending all that much money.
But coming up with the funds to secure all the parking lots is not going to be trivial.
It's been a long time since I have been by a CPD station but it seems to me that at least a couple of them used alleyways for at least some parking and access. You can't just close an alleyway off real easily most of the time. I seem to recall a couple of them had remote lots as well. How do you provide a secure corridor from a remote lot to the station house? All that would do is provide a known place where cops are forced to pass by to get to the station.
and yet I ask how many guns can a homeless person have?
But try to get to the 5th floor at shitty hall! Armed coppers and of course daleys crack (LOL) security detail! With 2 commanders each making over $160,000 each+ new cars and drivers NICE!!
They're loyal fuckin' democrats. Every vote counts!
O/T: Go Blago! Fuck you Feds! You didn't prove shit except that Blago is a typical Illinois asshole.
Now the whole world sees that this clown took pipe to save the first half black president's ass.
Why can't these bums sleep in the City Council Chambers between meetings? After all, the Council meets only once per month.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM"
Why don't you take video of yourself strolling into Daley's office without warning and send it to the SCC blog? Park district? Water department?
Yeah, didn't think so, but nice try.
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
7/13/2010 12:43:00 AM
Yea, but thre is security issues at hand. How many bums are sleeping in the lobby at the fed building? This is a Public Building, too. How many bums sleeping in front of city hall or sleep or laying around in the vestibule at city hall or the county building during the day? NONE. Why should the police stations allow this? It's called loitering. There are plenty of shelters in the city that allow this. It IS a safety issue for everyone...police and citizens who come in. And, unfortunately, many homeless do have mental issues and many of them fail to take medicine to control their urges, many which are violent and are out of control. It is a safety issue for everyone.
That goes for the Emergency Department waiting room too.
We had a nut job in 025 not long ago yelling for his meds. Capt went in and asked him what was wrong with him...he said "I needs my pills,I'm bi-polio!"
Anonymous said on 7/13/2010 at12:43:00 AM
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
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What's sauce for the goose is fitting for Shortshanks then. Let them up in the stairwell at Shitty Hall down from the King's Lair. You know the spot... where all the REAL business of Daley and Co, er, the city, gets conducted. You know the bug free area cause Orkin is always there.
"THE CITIZENS ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS INFORMATION AND THINK THAT THERE IS NO PROBLEM BRINGING THEIR HANDGUNS INTO THE STATION. AND THERE IS NO BULLETPROOF GLASS IN THE STATIONS..."
A copper getting shot/killed in the station will just further Tricky Dick's anti-gun agenda.
"STUPID PEOPLE WITH GUNS NOW."
Yeah, they're running the department.
"Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this.."
Yes...and NO. You have the right to be in any public place, so long as you're there for the purpose for which the facility was intended. If you're not in the police station for police business, you have no "right" to be there.
I like the 2 foot high "desk" that the traffic section has.
I only saw it recently for the first time while working CTA at 18 & State.
Check it out.
7/13/2010 12:12:00 PM
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Isn't that where at least one officer was held at knifepoint?
Well all that seems to be kept out of the station nowadays is ME!
Security seems to be working!
If you see something enough times, you're going to get jaded. There's no escaping that. If you're accustomed to shitheads wandering in and out of police parking lots, encountering them will not trigger the readiness condition that it probably should. After all, you see it every day, again and again and again because the assholes in City Hall allow this nonsense to go on...
A good initial step is to pass an ordinance that allows CPD to demarcate areas of their station houses and grounds as no trespassing, under penalty of law.
Mark them however you may- signs, big red lines painted on the ground- whatever. This way, when there is absolutely, positively no question that the person who has crossed that line is a) informed that they should not be there and b) breaking an actual law in doing so- there won't be any casual reactions to their presence. They will be recognized as trespassers and a potential threat, handcuffed and marched into a fucking jail cell where they belong.
You'd be amazed what a big red line, a few bold-lettered signs and a statute to back them up can accomplish. There are Federal Prison Camps that don't even have fences- just this.
Will it stop a determined attacker? Of course not, however, it will harden the mentalities of the officers so they know that anyone in those areas has made a conscious decision to trespass and may be a real threat, as opposed to some clueless asshole walking to the store...
- Hegewisch Electronics Geek
On the same note, they need to stop letting all the assholes in 007 go in and take a piss/shit in the bathrooms. Lock those bathrooms up and give the key when a witness or victim needs to use it.
i once had a homeless guy wander into the lobby on a cold night...he begged me to find him a place to stay. our policy was no overnight guests in the lobby, but i asked his name/dob...
he had three warrants, 2 from dupage. i found him a place to say all right. 2 hots and a cot....heh heh heh....
Public buildings paid for with public funds.. Everyone has the right to take a seat in a public building regardless of where they come from or what mental status they seem to have. You of all people should know this. Let's not get out of hand with this..
Yeah... try that argument at the White House.
"Well I hope that you at least conducted some fucking type of investigation, like a name check perhaps, or better yet a FOID card check before you let them leave with their weapon. YOU STILL ARE THE FUCKING POLICE AREN'T YOU??????
7/13/2010 02:54:00 PM"
apparently, you believe that there is a law prohibiting stupidity.
if there were, do you think you'd be subject to arrest?
"Why can't we have that protection??
7/13/2010 09:23:00 AM"
short answer: richard m. daley
From Chicago Breaking News:
Chicago police personnel this afternoon evacuated a portion of the Grand Central Area headquarters after a....citizen went to the station and turned in fireworks which required the bomb and arson unit to be called in. A portion of the station was evacuated, said a police spokesman.
"i once had a homeless guy wander into the lobby on a cold night...he begged me to find him a place to stay. our policy was no overnight guests in the lobby, but i asked his name/dob...
he had three warrants, 2 from dupage. i found him a place to say all right. 2 hots and a cot....heh heh heh....
7/14/2010 09:50:00 AM"
did he thank you for your service?
THE BITCH THAT KILLED RICK FRANCIS CAMPED OUT IN.019 EVERY NIGHT IF IT WASN'T ALLOWED MAYBE HE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY SEEING. THAT SHE WAS STINKING UP THE STATION THE NIGHT IT HAPPENED
Are you talking about Frosty? Sure sounds like him. Maybe not, nonetheless Frosty use to always be in 003 roaming the halls. Finally someone pinched him with crack and he hasn't been seen since. I always didn't trust that guy. Don't know why other POs did.
I remember Frosty from back when I was in 005 about 5 or 6 years ago. Geeez, that guy makes the rounds.
Could go the Northern Ireland Police station route.
Scroll to the bottom. http://drakkin.com/Koln/Belfast.html
That is not a prison that is a standard police station. No chairs or benches there. Oh and check out the armored vehicle for regular use NOT special missions.
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