IPRA Busy Tonight
A person was shot in a police-involved shooting early this morning in the South Side's West Englewood neighborhood, marking the second police-involved shooting within about 5 hours, according to officials.
About 12:14 a.m., gunfire was exchanged between police and at least one suspect near the intersection of West 65th Street and South Seeley Avenue, according to [a] spokesman with the Independent Police Review Authority.
One person, believed to be the person who fired on police, was shot, Tarver said. No officers were shot, he said.
All officers reportedly OK in both incidents.
Labels: shooting
posted by SCC at 3:59 AM
48 Comments:
How come as a district officer, I can be placed on a "low activity" list, yet the CMDR is able to sponser a member from unit for merit Sgt? Double standard?
The Chicago weather report today is as follows: Hot and Humid around 95 mostly sunny with a 100% chance of homicide...
Big changes to Officer's rights when dealing with IPRA went into effect 01-AUG-10. Grievances files already. IPRA wants a statement within 2 hours of a shooting and wants it on tape. IPRA claims you are a "witness" at your own shooting, so you have witness rights. FOP says you have 48 hours and no recording. This may be the end of the round table. Grievances supposedly expedited. This was all done between FOP and city negotiating team. Bosses department wide are in "what the fuck" mode. They had no knowledge of any of this. Bosses are now required to order you to give a statement. All at a great time when we've basically lost our 5th amendment rights. Ilana Rosenzweig has been running this thing for three years and hasn't found a dirty shooting yet. She is determined to get a copper's scalp before she moves on to the next big money job.
8/15/2010 12:46:00 AM
In this day and age, always carry a pistol on the street that is at least a .40cal, a .45 is better. Have extra mags too.
The bad guys don't seem to give a shit, they think life is like a "gangsta" video and that "Thuglife" is a mantra.
They'll go down in a blaze of gunfire just to prove their manhood, taking a copper with them is icing on the cake.
MAY BE THE MORE PEOPLE THE POLICE HAVE TO SHOOT THE FASTER THEY CITY WILL FIGURE WE NEED MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
EVERY PERSON SHOT HITS THE GHETTO LOTTERY FIGURE A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND MINUS HOSPITAL EXPENSES SINCE THEY NEVER HAVE AN H.M.O.
WHAT DO U THINK POLICY GROUP?
AND HAS ANYONE NOTICED THAT NEW GENERAL ORDERS SEEM TO HAVE DWINDLED TO NOTHING.
ALL THOSE LAWYER AS EXEMPTS YET NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT.
Off Topic: I just want to say thank you to CFD for providing food and water to those of us assigned to work Bud. That was some good barbecue.
thank god no officers were injured in either incident--- we just buried 3 officers and a firefighter.... as you spend more time on the job you learn how to grow thick skin and become desensitized to things that used to bother you when you first strapped the sam brown around your waist.... things are only going to get worse around here... back each other up and stay safe....
Ok this post is an appeal to Mike Shields or someone else with some influence and credibility. Please do what the FOP won't.
It's time to embarrass Daley while he is in his phony election mode persona. The streets are getting ridiculously dangerous for the police. It is time for another march around city hall demanding new leadership. Jfed, the morons appointed by the clergy and the rest of these civilians (Masters,Masters,Masters) need to go. Let's not let our horseshit leadership cost another police officer's life.
Off Topic:
I have been reading this pathetic banter on wrong doings and unfairness in the department for too long. Its tiring to see all this effort in creating even more moral loss by creating a "Jerry Springer" environment, rather than taking legal action or alternative responces to a political machine as corrupt as some of our current government offices. (the capitalist system works the offices dont)
We have built a society based on tiresome and costly litigation favoring corporations, disgrunted offenders, conceding to payoffs to organizations and individuals who shun personal liability due to pre-conceived benefit schemes of disability, or bias of any type that would be lucrative.
A system that is to afraid in sentencing, creating a penal system designed to appear as rehabilitation rather than punishment.
A crime is a violation of someones civil right, therefore a crime is in a sense an act of treason, and they have denied those same rights lawbiding citizen have .... they no longer should have rights.
No books, no movies, no gym, no voting. just a cell. then perhaps the "cool" stigma of jail wont be as pretty to the uneducated criminal morons. If they riot and kill each other or burn their beds they need not worry about laundry day for the rest of their sentence.
Yes, because of this the order of caution is and will be this:
you and your partners -
1. Safety
2. Legal (Civil) Safety
3. Dept. Safety
4. Citizen Safety
With lawsuits, public attitude, policy ... etc., We cant hero parachute into situations like we used to, its painful, but we must let the "Cause and Effect" change or environment.
We must however continue to enforce law with a hard hand and no less...tickets, arrests without discretion ... then there is no room for "Ifs". And your defense is ironclad.
Stay Safe .. Train Constantly.
Major Rick Freely - Unit WD40
1 killed, at least 7 wounded, in city-wide shootings
August 15, 2010 5:00 AM |
One person was killed and at least seven others were wounded in city-wide shootings--two of which were police-involved shootings--late Saturday and early Sunday, according to police.
no worries... their newest hire is a child of two clouted po's.
Off Topic:
Hey SCC, how can I get in contact with the Shackman monitors that were there when the merit list came out. Please post it here.
I like it when the bad guys get hit !
Be safe Officers
women's tactical association's webpage blocked to non-members!! i guess there was stuff on there that they didn't want us to see!!!
Transfer order:
5 Sergeants going to IAD.
2 Sergeants going from IAD to Legal Affairs.
House mouse says
from Friday 0001hrs - sunday 1200hrs
19 shooting incidents that resulted in 24 victims being hospitalized, of which two homicides.
67th kedzie- 1 incident - 3 shot
18th carpenter- 1 incident- 2 shot
88th Princeton -1 incident - 2 shot
4800 W Wellington - 1 incident - 2 shot
so, when they tell you agg batts are down
they are counting not only the number of incidents BUT they also include all other IUCR codes for agg batt including other dangerous weapons and with knives, etc...
So all agg bats that start with IUCR "04" are SUMMED together.
Umm gotta go... Time for my nap..
House mouse says
from Friday 0001hrs - sunday 1200hrs
19 shooting incidents that resulted in 24 victims being hospitalized, of which two homicides.
67th kedzie- 1 incident - 3 shot
18th carpenter- 1 incident- 2 shot
88th Princeton -1 incident - 2 shot
4800 W Wellington - 1 incident - 2 shot
so, when they tell you agg batts are down
they are counting not only the number of incidents BUT they also include all other IUCR codes for agg batt including other dangerous weapons and with knives, etc...
So all agg bats that start with IUCR "04" are SUMMED together.
Umm gotta go... Time for my nap..
Anonymous said...
Transfer order:
5 Sergeants going to IAD.
2 Sergeants going from IAD to Legal Affairs.
8/15/2010 12:53:00 PM
The Department is just canceling their detail and assigning them to the units they are already in numb-nuts.
Anonymous said...
women's tactical association's webpage blocked to non-members!! i guess there was stuff on there that they didn't want us to see!!!
8/15/2010 12:33:00 PM
Simple, join, pay dues, get password, login, read, wait a day, post "news" on SCC, repeat.
....Anonymous said...
Ok this post is an appeal to Mike Shields or someone else with some influence and credibility. Please do what the FOP won't.
It's time to embarrass Daley while he is in his phony election mode persona.....
O.K. Bud, you start something and we will follow your lead!
Oh yeah, I forgot, you want somebody else to do the hard stuff while you watch and reap the benefits, as usual.
Am I wrong, I think not!
Most guys bitch, bitch, bitch and wait for a messiah to take the whipping for them.
Blame it on FOP, Shields, Dont-know-who or who ever!
Check out "Dateline" on NBC. It's all about Chicago and your problems with the murders of young people. New York City is 3 times larger than Chicago but our problem is nothing. You got to get more police and dump Daley and that police chief J-Fled.
Ouch!!!!
Tonight Dateline NBC is doing a one-hour show on violence in Chicago. The focus is on the honor students being kilt.
If this isn't giving 42xx short a grabber little else could.
I need your help, troops. That 1-hour special on "DATELINE" - NBC tonight was terrible ugly national publicity for me and the CPD. We've got to tell the gangbangers to knock it off. You know I've got your backs.
Gotta run!
Did the Holiday Inn at Mannheim and Higgins get annexed by 025 or is 2523 just really, really lost?
OT - FYI in the comments from the recent Reader article and SCC post "The Vanishing Beat Cop":
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the racist blog Second City Cop linked to this article. Checking.... confirmed.
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2010/08/…
Posted by FGFM on August 14, 2010 at 5:36 PM |
And my response:
@FGFM... You want to call SCC racist but you represent yourself with a photo of Al Capone? Your credibility just hit ZERO! And your moron comment from earlier? Right back at ya!
Thanks for linking the blog, though. Chicagoans deserve to know the truth.
Posted by Big City Police on August 15, 2010 at 7:58 PM
The fist question from IPRA is:
Did you make Sgt by merit?
If yes, it is a good shooting
If no. Grab your KY Jelly
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok this post is an appeal to Mike Shields or someone else with some influence and credibility. Please do what the FOP won't.
It's time to embarrass Daley while he is in his phony election mode persona. The streets are getting ridiculously dangerous for the police. It is time for another march around city hall demanding new leadership. Jfed, the morons appointed by the clergy and the rest of these civilians (Masters,Masters,Masters) need to go. Let's not let our horseshit leadership cost another police officer's life.
8/15/2010 09:18:00 AM
I am with you brother. Let's do it. We can organize a march on city hall telling the citizens of Chicago about how the city is falling apart.
We can organize this event and execute it.
Big changes to Officer's rights when dealing with IPRA went into effect 01-AUG-10. Grievances files already. IPRA wants a statement within 2 hours of a shooting and wants it on tape. IPRA claims you are a "witness" at your own shooting, so you have witness rights. FOP says you have 48 hours and no recording. This may be the end of the round table. Grievances supposedly expedited. This was all done between FOP and city negotiating team. Bosses department wide are in "what the fuck" mode. They had no knowledge of any of this. Bosses are now required to order you to give a statement. All at a great time when we've basically lost our 5th amendment rights. Ilana Rosenzweig has been running this thing for three years and hasn't found a dirty shooting yet. She is determined to get a copper's scalp before she moves on to the next big money job.
8/15/2010 12:46:00 AM
8/15/2010 07:05:00 AM
You can't be recorded without your consent unless you are the suspect in a murder or a case that may become a murder. Refuse the recording. If some boss is stupid enough to order you to abrogate your rights, document it and request counsel. Ask if you are suspected of a crime. Get a definite yes or no before you give a statement. They will try to buffalo you just like we do with the mutts. Don't fall for it. You may take some heat, but in the long run they can't violate the law either. Or you can just whine and moan on the blog and do as you are told.
People have bent as far as they can, there is going to be a rash of people snapping soon. Thanks to all of the nonsupport from everyone. When the people who do the most become the scapegoat, it's a problem. Don't tell us about fruity nonsense the Dept provides,just get us some
damn help!
Why are there bike units? Other than talking about bikes and saying" Dude and Bro" what do they do? What a waste of manpower.
Sretsam,Sretsam,Sretsam, Ivy League Putz.
My new hero: Officer Dick Freely from Unit WD40. The slickest bunch of guys that won't rub you the wrong way.
8/15/2010 07:55:00 pm
you are a very petty petty man. What a pussy.
just a po not in 025
A merit sgt. is selected and has 30 arrest for the year in a special unit. Where has this department gone? WTF. hard work pays off only with the overtime check and that is it.
however, good jot freddy )william_)torres
For those of you readers out there, my Capt referred a book called, "The Devil in the White City" in reference to the 1893 World's Fair that was hosted in Chicago. It's an amazing read about Chicago and leading up to the fair, which occurred in the area of Jackson Park. The book involves a serial killer, politics, and how the fair came about! Some of the comments made back then still apply now. I'll give one example, "I will never return to such a city (Chicago), why it is full of savages!"
OT --- was anyone at the airshow today (Sunday)? We saw an Aer Lingus 747 intrude the Blue Angels' airspace and make a sharp turn to retreat. WBBM reported that the Blue Angels almost stopped the show after that. Other commerical aircraft was too close. What was the deal? Normally no commercial jets can be seen during the program. There has been no more news coverage regarding this situation.
--civilian reader
Anonymous said...
OT --- was anyone at the airshow today (Sunday)? We saw an Aer Lingus 747 intrude the Blue Angels' airspace and make a sharp turn to retreat. WBBM reported that the Blue Angels almost stopped the show after that. Other commerical aircraft was too close. What was the deal? Normally no commercial jets can be seen during the program. There has been no more news coverage regarding this situation.
--civilian reader
Many of us saw that also. Someone really fucked up. Commercial planes were flying low over the lake and city following their normal landing pattern into O'Hare. We couldn't believe it. The Blue Angles show was much shorter than their show on Sat. and I'm sure that was the reason.
....Anonymous said...
Ok this post is an appeal to Mike Shields or someone else with some influence and credibility. Please do what the FOP won't.
It's time to embarrass Daley while he is in his phony election mode persona.....
O.K. Bud, you start something and we will follow your lead!
Oh yeah, I forgot, you want somebody else to do the hard stuff while you watch and reap the benefits, as usual.
Am I wrong, I think not!
Most guys bitch, bitch, bitch and wait for a messiah to take the whipping for them.
Blame it on FOP, Shields, Dont-know-who or who ever!
8/15/2010 05:09:00 PM
-------------------------------------------------------------------------Hey Bud, I suggested someone like Shields because he is well known and has a history of standing up to the machine. He also has the ability to draw the attention of the media. Do I blame FOP? Hell yes. They are paid to stand up for the best interest of the police, yet remain silent during what is turning into the destruction of the police
department. If some unknown guy (me) says "Show up at city hall this Friday !", is anyone coming Bud?
How come as a district officer, I can be placed on a "low activity" list, yet the CMDR is able to sponser a member from unit for merit Sgt? Double standard?
Ah....yes. Don't tell me you are surprised.
OT --- was anyone at the airshow today (Sunday)? We saw an Aer Lingus 747 intrude the Blue Angels' airspace and make a sharp turn to retreat. WBBM reported that the Blue Angels almost stopped the show after that. Other commerical aircraft was too close. What was the deal? Normally no commercial jets can be seen during the program. There has been no more news coverage regarding this situation.
--civilian reader
8/15/2010 11:27:00 PM
Simple. Any news that would put Daley in a bad light is ignored.
Why have shortshanks and jfled been getting such a pass from the media? Why are they not held accountable? Enquiring minds nationwide want to know!
Blue Angels show was short because they were down a plane (bird sucked into engine) and apparently another crew member was ill. There were other flight restrictions due to the Sox game, so the ORD approach was pretty messed up.
FUCK IPRA...AND FUCK J-FLED, WHO SIGNED OFF ON MY 30-PENDING CASE!!! When I think it's getting tough, I remind myself that I could be locked up in a federal prison in fuckin shitty Louisiana...away from all my family and friends. FREE BILL COZZI!!!
"Why have shortshanks and jfled been getting such a pass from the media? Why are they not held accountable? Enquiring minds nationwide want to know!
8/16/2010 08:39:00 AM"
'the media' is now a synonym for 'whore'.
Regarding the post wondering about 2523. You must not be a police officer. If you are, you can't be liked by many of your fellow officers. Maybe they were driving a witness or victim home. Maybe they were following up on a job. What you should be concerned about is the lack of a life you lead because you're worried about something that is none of your business.
Don't worry mark & the boys are all over this. There's nothing behind the smoke and mirrors. Nothing to see hear.
Don't worry mark & the boys are all over this. There's nothing behind the smoke and mirrors. Nothing to see hear.
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