Crime Down Again?
We're busier than ever. We never get out of backlog. Retirements haven't eased and the hiring situation is critical. The detective caseloads are as big as ever and the name of the game is "Move the X, close the case." Ticket "indexes" are dropping like rocks. We're still counting two or more trips a night to the local hospitals to take "man shot" reports.
And crime is....down?
And crime is....down?
Chicago police announced a 4.5 percent decrease in overall crime from January to September, compared with the same time period last year.
Although the crime drop includes a decrease in property crimes, motor vehicle thefts were up 22.3 percent, according to the preliminary statistics released Sunday by police.
Murder declined by 2.3 percent after a slight increase in August, police said, adding that the department is on pace with 2007, a year that ended with the lowest murder total in the city since 1965.
Also in September, police said they seized 130 firearms.
Violent crime overall was down more than 11 percent. Aggravated batteries alone declined 7.7 percent, which was the single greatest decrease in this category in 2010.
Can we get a year-by-year comparison for August to September declines for the past decade or so? We mean, what possible annual event could occur every September that could potentially contribute to such a significant decline in crime statistics? Something to reduce the number of potential victims (and offenders) from being part of the "Crime Triangle."
Whoops! Gotta take the children to school. We'll revisit this later.
Whoops! Gotta take the children to school. We'll revisit this later.
Labels: stats
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
93 Comments:
you'd think with that elite bait car unit motor vehicle theft would be down
Chicago Homicide Rates per 100,000 residents, 1870-2000
1870 2.6
1880 5.4
1890 7.0
1900 6.0
1910 9.2
1920 10.5
1930 14.6
1940 7.1
1950 7.9
1960 10.3
1970 24.0
1980 28.7
1990 32.9
2000 22.1
They like to start current-day studies at around 1965, to obscure the fact that the homicide rate increased by 2 1/2 times between 1960 and 1970 -- and has never gone back down to the 1960 level. This time period was noted for passage of --
* Civil Rights Act of 1964
* Hart-Celler Act of 1965 (tore up immigration quotas)
* Gun Control Act of 1968
--aside from other engines of social upheaval which began operating at the time.
http://www.encyclopedia.
chicagohistory.org/pages/
2156.html
We used to recover 1300 guns a month... shows what quality leadership will do
AND THE THANKS WE GET IS 2%
Yes I understand we are very under staffed and morale is the lowest I have ever seen it. But what I also see is coppers who were hired within the last ten years with serious attitude problems. I work in a "unit" where we are very well taken care of. And yet I am surrounded by a bunch of prima donnas who do nothing but complain about how everything is bullshit. They have such a sense of entitlement, from where I have no idea. Working in a "unit" we have a lot of freedom to do or not to do what we want. And yet still all the complaining. I think these kids, yes kids, need a kick in the ass and a wake up call so that they can appreciate what they have. The guys and gals working patrol to ten times the work these people do with 1/100th of the complaining. What happened to a work ethic.
Congratulations Chicago! You made it!
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/10/04/25-most-dangerous-neighborhoods-2010/?ncid=webmail
What exactly is total crime? Does that include parleys and movers and snobs could I could believe those numbers dropping
Reecently had a need to file a police report , called the number I was given, and was told to leave a message and I would be contacted back. That was 10 days ago, and I'm still waiting. I guess this crime now never happened.
Police drop 'roundtable' probes of cops in shootings
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/
2769608,CST-NWS-roundtable04.article
OT:
Police drop 'roundtable' probes of cops in shootings
Criticized for often ruling use of gun was justified
October 4, 2010
BY FRANK MAIN Staff Reporter/fmain@suntimes.com
The Chicago Police Department has eliminated "roundtables," the controversial inquiries held immediately after police officers are involved in shootings.
At a roundtable, an officer would give a cursory statement to a gathering of officials -- including police commanders, a representative of the Cook County state's attorney's office, and a representative of the Independent Police Review Authority, the civilian agency that investigates shootings. Roundtable statements weren't under oath, and the proceedings weren't recorded.
Roundtables were intended to give law-enforcement officials a snapshot of the circumstances surrounding a shooting by an officer. But the inquiries have come under criticism in recent years because the conclusion of the roundtable almost always was that the shooting was justified -- even though some of those same shootings later resulted in millions of dollars in legal payouts.
Detectives will continue to conduct their own criminal investigations into police shootings of civilians. And IPRA will continue to investigate whether the officer properly discharged his or her weapon.
The Fraternal Order of Police agrees with the decision to do away with roundtables, but the union is at odds with IPRA over when an officer needs to speak with an IPRA investigator.
"Ideally, IPRA would like to speak to the officers as soon as possible," said Curtis Tarver II, a spokesman for IPRA. "Our position is that the contract allows us to compel a statement from an officer if he refuses to give it."
But the FOP says officers should have a "cooling-off period" before being required to speak to an IPRA investigator. Other law-enforcement agencies have cooling-off periods of 24 or 48 hours.
The FOP is asking for an arbitrator to resolve the dispute with IPRA. Until then, the union is recommending officers don't speak to IPRA investigators at shooting scenes.
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IPRA does not have authority to compel an officer to give a statement immediately after a shooting.
FOP will always send out a lawyer now to assist an officer. Wait for your lawyer.
Follow the advice of the FOP attorney always.
"Whoops! Gotta take the children to school."
post or don't post, but I'm curious as to your take on this:
"1. Remove the portion of all categories of property taxes applied to publicly funded education from our property tax bills. (This will require the abolition of the taxing authority of School Districts, with the resulting dissolution of publicly operated school systems. School properties owned by public entities thus become available for private lease and operation, and, thus, provide the consumers with the basis for authentic free market choices.) Require rental property owners, (residential, commercial, industrial, agricultural, etc.), to reduce their rental rates dollar for dollar, ie., a profit neutral effect.
2. Establish set voucher amounts for:
a) Module #1 - Kindergarten, 1st and 2nd grades.
b) Module #2 - 3rd, 4th and 5th grades.
c) Module #3 - 6th, 7th and 8th grades.
d) Module #4 - 9th and 10th grades.
e) Module #5 -11th and 12th grades.
3. Redefine the basic educational goals for the above 5 voucher categories as follows:
a) Module #1 - Reading, Writing & Arithmetic, ie., developing vocabulary, grammar, reasoning, problem solving, parable comprehension, mathematical logic, spatial coordination skills, sense perception organization, etc.
b) Module #2 - Begin the process of assessing individual student propensities, talents, interests, etc., said assessments forming a basis for current and future individual curriculum shaping, ie., intellectual, physical, emotional, etc. continue previous module's development of Reading, Writing and Arithmetic comprehension.
c) Module #3 - Using the assessments made during the 3 years of Module #2, begin the gradual, individual curriculum division of students into emphasizing their respective areas of natural propensity, ie., Intellectual, Physical and Emotional. (Intellectual = the Sciences, Physical = the Trades, Emotional = the Arts, in all their forms and variations.) The gradual process being enabled by Elective Course options + Mandatory Course requirements.
d) Module #4 - Continue the above individual student curriculum process, but weighed heavily in the individual student's natural propensities, abilities and talents. A given student's subject of study desire contrary to their natural propensities can be satisfied via Elective Courses of study.
e) Module #5 - The final stage which determines post traditional publicly financed education, preparing the individual student for and/or: College in the Sciences, College in the Arts, or College in the Trades, or gainful employment opportunities.
4. Finance the above set taxpayer financed minimum voucher amounts via an across the board increase in the statewide retail sales tax, thus evenly distributing the cost to all citizens without intrinsic regard to their individual economic status. Granted, those who spend more, presumably being those who have more to spend, will contribute more, however, all who purchase at retail will contribute.
5. As individual, stand alone private enterprises, each school will set it's own tuition rates, with the set minimum voucher amounts being the basis, and any additional amounts being the responsibility of the given consumer's desire to purchase a specific school's educational services for their child/children.
Our public education systems have been devolving into "a mind is a terrible thing to waste" mode for several decades now. It is long past the time to end the wasteful practices which come with bloated, government run bureaucracies."
SCC,
Bottom line.....murders are down from last year and it looks by the end of the year there will be less murders then previous Superintendents. We are close to 1000 police officers short and we as CPD did it. My next point is we also have 1500 carbines on the street. I estimate that number will double with relaxing the fitness standards being relaxed. Ground on the outdoor range broken. That means we will have an outdoor range by next time this year. Figure that, the second largest police department in the country, and we now get an outdoor range. The previous Supt's (Martin, Rodriguez, Hillard, and Cline) never would have started a Carbine Program. Did you forget that LeRoy Martin was NOT presented with a Glock, so he got pissed off and kept Glock off the approved carry list. Even that past joke of a unit, HBT, was not allowed to carry their carbines. The only way they could take the M4s out of the truck is if they broke the seal on the case that had to be shared and later you had to write a To/From why you did. I hate to say this but J-Fed has done more for CPD then any of the previous Superintendent's. With the recent hardcore violence with assault rifles against us and the threat of terrorism I have an AR-15 in my trunk to do good things. Say whatever you want about J-Fed none of these past or future Superintendents would have allowed us to have AR-15s or the extra training that go with it. Give credit were credit is due.
Crime is always going to be down when you have less Police officers on the streets looking for criminals!
OT- Was reading the Arizona Republic paper on-line, and came across a story about a homeowner defending himself after gang bangers crashed a party there armed with weapons. The following quote is right out of the article and sounds hauntingly familiar;
Beck's and Contreras' family members said both men were beloved by family and friends and were trying to improve their lives. Contreras was working two jobs, and was covering up his gang tattoos with other images.
Gotta Love it!!!!!! Do they give a class on this shit, "quotes to use after your gangbanger child is killed?"
Lower crime is a NATIONAL trend right now. Which kills the old liberal belief that a poor economy fuels crime. Citizens allowed access to guns also appears to lower crime.
anybody know which captains are putting in their papers?
Crime down? Tell that to the rape victims in Lincoln Park.
As SCC and others have pointed out too many times for the idiot media not to take notice, medical science has more to do with the murder rate dropping than any thing else.
Apologies to the "elite" Mobile Stroke Farce and Tactical Retard Unit. Where would patrol be without use guyz?
murders are down from last year and it looks by the end of the year there will be less murders then previous Superintendents.
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That has way more to do with medical technology than policing. There are more people walking around with bullet holes in them than last year - aggravated batteries are UP. Police didn't prevent diddly.
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My next point is we also have 1500 carbines on the street. I estimate that number will double with relaxing the fitness standards being relaxed.
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Not unless CPD buys more carbines or cops buy their own. The rifles were an Olympic Bid REQUIREMENT for security reasons, not some brainstorm of J-Fled. If Daley couldn't field 1,000 rifles, no bid, and once the genie was out of the bottle, no putting it back, though Downtown Ernie Brown is attempting to by pulling shotguns off the street.
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Murder declined by 2.3 percent after a slight increase in August, police said, adding that the department is on pace with 2007, a year that ended with the lowest murder total in the city since 1965.
That is TOTAL BS! The numbers are getting fudged. Dep O has the IS Division massaging the numbers On orders from Shortshanks via Jfled.
Chief R from IAD should look into it! Can he be trusted though?
No one has the stones to blow the whistle though!
SCC you dont have to publish this but some one needs to do something.
Civil.Servant.ORD
Backlog? Nonsense, they've just got to start screening out the nonsense calls and bogus cellphone calls. How many fake 'MEN WITH GUNS" come from disconnected cellphones? Why give service to these phones and why can't they just block the phone that puts out bogus calls? You know they'll never charge anyone with making bogus calls.
They like to start current-day studies at around 1965, to obscure the fact that the homicide rate increased by 2 1/2 times between 1960 and 1970 -- and has never gone back down to the 1960 level. This time period was noted for passage of --
* Civil Rights Act of 1964
* Hart-Celler Act of 1965 (tore up immigration quotas)
* Gun Control Act of 1968
--aside from other engines of social upheaval which began operating at the time.
http://www.encyclopedia.
chicagohistory.org/pages/
2156.html
10/04/2010 01:31:00 AM
And of course the pat answer:"You all is racist, man. That's bogus!"
I hate to say this but J-Fed has done more for CPD then any of the previous Superintendent's. With the recent hardcore violence with assault rifles against us and the threat of terrorism I have an AR-15 in my trunk to do good things. Say whatever you want about J-Fed none of these past or future Superintendents would have allowed us to have AR-15s or the extra training that go with it. Give credit were credit is due.
10/04/2010 07:06:00 AM
Ray-Ray: You are already detailed back to the Superintendent's office and will never spend a day in the dreaded Patrol, stop butt munching.
"anybody know which captains are putting in their papers?
10/04/2010 08:45:00 AM"
I know...
"I guess this crime now never happened.
10/04/2010 06:21:00 AM"
wat chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?
"I hate to say this....
....Give credit were credit is due.
10/04/2010 07:06:00 AM"
1. no you don't you love saying this.
2. and also give blame where blame is due?
guaranteed that blame list will be so fucking much longer than your pathetic 'credit' list.
As SCC and others have pointed out too many times for the idiot media not to take notice, medical science has more to do with the murder rate dropping than any thing else.
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You seem to have forgotten to reference the statistical information that proves the point.
If crime is down then why is it that West Haven the most dangerous part of the city happens to be in 013 Dist. http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/10/04/25-most-dangerous-neighborhoods-2010/
AOL posted that Chicago won the TOP spot for the MOST DANGEROUS neighborhoods in the U.S. in 2010.... Check out the website which calculated the data and distributed the info. 1 in 4 will be victims in this neighborhood.... But wait, we were told crime is down?
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/10/04/25-most-dangerous-neighborhoods-2010/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%7C175093
Anonymous said...
Yes I understand we are very under staffed and morale is the lowest I have ever seen it. But what I also see is coppers who were hired within the last ten years with serious attitude problems. I work in a "unit" where we are very well taken care of. And yet I am surrounded by a bunch of prima donnas who do nothing but complain about how everything is bullshit. They have such a sense of entitlement, from where I have no idea. Working in a "unit" we have a lot of freedom to do or not to do what we want. And yet still all the complaining. I think these kids, yes kids, need a kick in the ass and a wake up call so that they can appreciate what they have. The guys and gals working patrol to ten times the work these people do with 1/100th of the complaining. What happened to a work ethic.
10/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
Thats got MSF written all over it! HA HA HA!!!
a few more or less crimes every year doesn't justify the over-inflated salaries of police Department leadership. It's not like any of them came up with any significant improvement. If overall crime in Chicago dropped 25% or more in a year, then I'd say that they were possibly on to something. Just because the sun shines a few days more from one year to the next, doesn't mean the Weatherman is a Genius.
Yes I understand we are very under staffed and morale is the lowest I have ever seen it. But what I also see is coppers who were hired within the last ten years with serious attitude problems. I work in a "unit" where we are very well taken care of. And yet I am surrounded by a bunch of prima donnas who do nothing but complain about how everything is bullshit. They have such a sense of entitlement, from where I have no idea. Working in a "unit" we have a lot of freedom to do or not to do what we want. And yet still all the complaining. I think these kids, yes kids, need a kick in the ass and a wake up call so that they can appreciate what they have. The guys and gals working patrol to ten times the work these people do with 1/100th of the complaining. What happened to a work ethic.
10/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
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Totally agree. But the problem attitudes come from the sense of entitlement these family members and political 'scholarships' have.
When your daddy is the lieutenant in a unit, your spot is assured, no matter how incompetent you are. When you roomed with someone whose daddy is the lieutenant in a unit, your party-planning, four-hour day is assured for life. Or at least until you get a meritorious promotion, once you fulfill the college requirement by taking online classes while you are 'at work'.
There are too many clouted-bees and not enough worker-bees, because the clouted are so damned busy picking up birthday cakes for their dogs and kids. That leaves precious few workers to carry the load.
Another day more terror threats are we ready?
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/airport-lobbies-terror-targets-european-plot-official/story?id=11790782
The most dangerous neighborhood in the U.S. according to Neighborhoodscout.com, West Lake Street in the 13th District. Wow and to think JFLed says crime is down. Congrats JFled, we took over the top spot from Cleveland, be proud of that accomplishment.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes I understand we are very under staffed and morale is the lowest I have ever seen it. But what I also see is coppers who were hired within the last ten years with serious attitude problems. I work in a "unit" where we are very well taken care of. And yet I am surrounded by a bunch of prima donnas who do nothing but complain about how everything is bullshit. They have such a sense of entitlement, from where I have no idea. Working in a "unit" we have a lot of freedom to do or not to do what we want. And yet still all the complaining. I think these kids, yes kids, need a kick in the ass and a wake up call so that they can appreciate what they have. The guys and gals working patrol to ten times the work these people do with 1/100th of the complaining. What happened to a work ethic.
10/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
I agree in a unit also and the babies keep crying and bitching how bad they got it! we have a kid with a "masters" degree who is complaining about not being promoted! "I am smart enough,good enough,and dam it people like me"!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
anybody know which captains are putting in their papers?
10/04/2010 08:45:00 AM
Why yes yes, captain Howdy,captain Crunch,and the skipper to along with Gilligan!
With the big backlog of cases. Where is that Detectives class that everyone keeps saying is coming soon? Probably just another bs rumor.
Whats up with Lt. Ryan in 022 telling his officers not to arrest people "that he knows." The person arrested had a WARRANT.....Hey LIEUTENANT...maybe they didn't teach you in MERIT class but a warrant is a judges order....has nothing to do with YOU and the bars you paid for.
QUITO, Ecuador – Hundreds of police angry over a law that would cut their benefits plunged this small South American nation into chaos Thursday, roughing up and tear-gassing the president, shutting down airports and blocking highways in a nationwide strike.
Will Chicago experience this as well?
BWGYM said...
Reecently had a need to file a police report , called the number I was given, and was told to leave a message and I would be contacted back. That was 10 days ago, and I'm still waiting. I guess this crime now never happened.
10/04/2010 06:21:00 AM
My insurance co. did not even ask for a police report when i had an accident and later a burgary.
That's cool. I was just torturing myself by reading the huffington post. They have an article rating the nation's most dangerous neighborhoods. Of course #1is in Chicago! Glad to hear how safe we are though.
Downward crime statistics is a national trend. The numbers and quality of the police force does have an effect, but not the largest contributing factor. Be careful what you claim credit for because if the crime rates go up because of factors beyond your control, you will also get the blame. The age of the population is the largest contributing factor. Unemployment and poverty have been historically shown to NOT be a large factor in the crime rates. The number of guns you recover each year is a meaningless statistic.Also, crimes reported to the police is deceptive. The US Justice department uses self reported household crime statistics to guage crime in a community.Most crimes have never been reported to the police ( with the exception of homicide).
"We used to recover 1300 guns a month..."
--10/04/2010 01:51:00 AM
One can't "recover" what one never had in the first place. I believe the word is "confiscate" -- "seize" is also good -- and I can't quite place when the mind-benders got everyone saying "recover."
It does seem like every police spokesman in the country started saying it at the same time. A "meme," or thought-virus.
Reminds me of the way federal prison sentences are now expressed; not as "two years," but as "24 months." Is that supposed to sound harsher, or less consequential? I don't get it.
We're not having a "depression," but a "recession that might be over although some are still feeling the pinch." Bank taking your house? That is not a "problem," but a "challenge."
First-grade teachers have rewritten our very language.
It's too weird.
Any rumors of another Sgt class?
'I hate to say this but J-Fed has done more for CPD then any of the previous Superintendent's. With the recent hardcore violence with assault rifles against us and the threat of terrorism I have an AR-15 in my trunk to do good things. Say whatever you want about J-Fed none of these past or future Superintendents would have allowed us to have AR-15s or the extra training that go with it. Give credit were credit is due.'
J-Fled didn't do a DAMN THING. Miami PD and other PDs around the country allowed their officers to be certified with and carry their OWN assault rifles to 'answer' street violence years before CPD did. Some of the smaller PDs around us (like WInnetka) had those weapons issued to their officers for quite a few years now. We were behind the times, we just slowly adapted. Don't throw a bunch of sunshine up o'l stupidinetendent's ass just yet....
SCC, is this true, what another poster stated here?
Is Ray-Ray detailed BACK to the Supt.'s office as a spanking brand new LIEUTENANT?
If this is the case, then WHY did J-Fled push for this asshole to be promoted? He was already making 'Lt.s' pay' as a 'Legal Officer,' so why did J-Fled waste a good merit Lt. spot? And then fuck Sgt. Bill Bradley out of the merit process also?
I hope someone will post this question to Supt. Snake eyes in the "Blog 501." I wonder what smart assed answer the Policy Group will send back.
Whats up with Lt. Ryan in 022 telling his officers not to arrest people "that he knows." The person arrested had a WARRANT.....Hey LIEUTENANT...maybe they didn't teach you in MERIT class but a warrant is a judges order....has nothing to do with YOU and the bars you paid for.
10/04/2010 12:21:00 PM
OUCH!
Anonymous said...
Any rumors of another Sgt class?
10/04/2010 02:37:00 PM
Sure. Lots of rumors. You might make it too. I hear I won't.
What's the deal with jfed holding a press conference dressed in a sweatshirt (again)? Speaks volumes on professionalism and lack of respect for the department.
Just remember, figures can lie and liars can figure. jfled is nothing if not an accomplished liar.
Mayor Daley , give our superintendent a 1 year extension on his contract , then give him your blessing to reduce number of exempts to 50 , close a few districts, dump most exempt / command staff , review all resumes and promote the most qualified officers to lead Chicago's Finest .
I don't care iof he brings in more feds , just get rid of the incompetent triple merit commanders.
keep downgrading burglaries!
keep making robbery thefts and batteries!
keep making agg batts batteries!
YOU KNOW WHO U R. REMEMBER UR COMMANDER WILL NOT PUT U IN FOR MERIT BECAUSE U DOWN GRADE CRIME.
AND UR SGT, WELL MOST OF THEM WONT EVEN LET U GO HOME EARLY ON A SATURDAY NIGHT!
SO WHY DO U DOWN GRADE CRIME?
DONT WORRY THE DICKS ARENT COMING OUT ANY WAYS AND J-FLED WONT FIND OUT UNLESS IT HITS THE NEWS.
THEN IF IT DOES HIT THE NEWS ALL THE GOLDSTARS START SENDING EMAILS TRYING TO COVER THEIR ASSES LIKE THEY KNOW WHAT HAPPENING IN THE STREETS.
THEN U WILL SEE 2 DICK AND SOME SORT OF MISSION TEAM ON IT!
U WANT MORE MANPOWER? CLASSIFY CRIME CORRECTLY AND THE STATS WILL BECOME LEGIT.
Yes I understand we are very under staffed and morale is the lowest I have ever seen it. But what I also see is coppers who were hired within the last ten years with serious attitude problems. I work in a "unit" where we are very well taken care of. And yet I am surrounded by a bunch of prima donnas who do nothing but complain about how everything is bullshit. They have such a sense of entitlement, from where I have no idea. Working in a "unit" we have a lot of freedom to do or not to do what we want. And yet still all the complaining. I think these kids, yes kids, need a kick in the ass and a wake up call so that they can appreciate what they have. The guys and gals working patrol to ten times the work these people do with 1/100th of the complaining. What happened to a work ethic.
10/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
I work with two of these type of guys too. I feel like bitch slapping them sometimes. Entitlement generation at it's finest. The future of this country is wrecked.
Crime isn't down.
Crime recording and reporting is down.
All you have to do is change the numbers to change the perceptions.
"Downward crime statistics is a national trend..."
--10/04/2010 01:30:00 PM
...as is a simultaneous overall lowering of the quality of life.
Even if you have the money to ignore/drive past/not live near problems (and to "absorb" the tax bite of paying for programs that foster, perpetuate, and worsen the problems) there are more and more problems for you to ignore/drive past/not live near/finance; thus, your quality of life is lowered nonetheless.
"Cognitive dissonance" here -- being told one thing, while seeing the opposite. Both things can't be true.
The homicide rate in Chicago is nearly TEN TIMES what it was during the "Wild West days" Daley and all the other anti-gunners keep pointing at.
One of the most disturbing trends in statistics is the unbelievable muddying of the waters caused by the introduction of additional racial categories like "Hispanic White," Non-Hispanic White," "Non-White Hispanic," etc.
"The term ‘Hispanic’ was coined in the 1970s by the US government..."
http://www.luc.edu/curl/pdfs/
Latino_Landscape_Final2.pdf
...to help make demographic and crime information almost impossible to understand.
"In theory, the terms ‘Hispanic’ and ‘Latino’ are used interchangeably...‘Latino’ is not a separate racial category and Latinos can identify themselves to be of any race. In fact, 62 percent of Latinos identified
themselves as ‘other’ in the racial category of the
Census Bureau in 2006."
Help!
But how many are there? Who knows? Laughably, "the Latino undercount was estimated at 1.25 percent in 2000."
Just an example of what can be done with "statistics." I'm giving up for now before my head explodes.
It all comes down to what Russian writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn once said -- "Paper can take anything."
And of course the pat answer [to observable, demonstrable events]:"You all is racist, man. That's bogus!"
10/04/2010 09:56:00 AM
Of course. The "other engines of social upheaval which began operating at the time" include the Abbie Hoffmans and Jerry Rubins. I forget which one said "The country wasn't coming apart at all. We just kept saying that until it did."
Yeah. I didn't see all of those VW microbuses with peace signs and New York plates rolling in here for the Democratic National Convention. The side streets of Hyde Park (University of Chicago) were full of 'em.
I know, I know. "That bogus." No outside agitators here...(wink)
Does that mean I will get a new crime reduction ribbon? Sweet a whole row. Thanx supernintendo.
04/2010 02:37:00 PM
Anonymous said...
'I hate to say this but J-Fed has done more for CPD then any of the previous Superintendent's. With the recent hardcore violence with assault rifles against us and the threat of terrorism I have an AR-15 in my trunk to do good things. Say whatever you want about J-Fed none of these past or future Superintendents would have allowed us to have AR-15s or the extra training that go with it. Give credit were credit is due.'
Hey genuis; it is not an AR15.
Just glanced at the TV -- Channel 7 News showing a drug bust on the south side, numerous weapons seized including what appeared to be a heavy-barrel AK with a bipod and a 75-round drum magazine.
A. Good to see that the Daley laws "are keeping guns out of the wrong hands."
B. It seems to me that this kind of thing is owned a lot more than it's used. When was the last time a dealer "criminally fortified" himself, got behind cover with something like this, and opened up on the officers serving the warrant? Overall, seems to be held more for intimidation/protection from ripoffs/gang-on-gang use.
C. Can the Second Amendment survive "multiculturalism?"
D. How many people with an agenda and this kind of armament are here? Watched a program on the Al Qaida bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Africa; the "sleeper cells" there laid low for more than four years -- working, getting married, having kids...
When the Iran/Iraq war kicked off, large, obviously foreign-produced Arabic-language posters depicting Saddam Hussein and Iraqi flags, victorious tanks, etc. appeared overnight on lampposts in 024, up and down Ridge Boulevard, near the large "Assyrian" (Iraqi) concentration around Devon & Western/Warren Park. It was chilling.
http://tinyurl.com/23heqkv
911 Callers Are a Joke in Broward County
Don't know what day it is? Look at a calender. Don't call 911
"I ordered chicken nuggets and they don't have chicken nuggets," one woman called 911 to report.
what clouted captains will retire?
who cares , many were double merit promoted before they were 100 % clout merit captains
was j-fled responsible for the ar-15.... or was it to soothe the olympic committee---- j-fled can suck my left nut, he fucked over one of our fraternal brothers and i wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire---- the ar-15 is not a good tool for everyday urban law enforcement---- beat officers should become proficient with hand to hand techniques and impact weapons--- deploying an ar-15 is not going to help you solve a domestic, you are better off going to the stick or oc.... the ar-15 is a military grade weapon and it has devastating results if fired...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes I understand we are very under staffed and morale is the lowest I have ever seen it. But what I also see is coppers who were hired within the last ten years with serious attitude problems. I work in a "unit" where we are very well taken care of. And yet I am surrounded by a bunch of prima donnas who do nothing but complain about how everything is bullshit. They have such a sense of entitlement, from where I have no idea. Working in a "unit" we have a lot of freedom to do or not to do what we want. And yet still all the complaining. I think these kids, yes kids, need a kick in the ass and a wake up call so that they can appreciate what they have. The guys and gals working patrol to ten times the work these people do with 1/100th of the complaining. What happened to a work ethic.
10/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
I have been pushing a beat car for fast approaching 20 years and have seen this type of attitude since I have been on.
Have seen do nothing coppers taken care of over and over again. I could almost let it go if they were workers who know how to do the job, but they are not. I've had a tact copper, no shit, ask me what a felony complaint was, and he went on to narcotics. I have seen people who hardly ever work the street, get gigs in units, and it isn't because they are stellar officers.
It is sickening that it is not what you know, but who you know on this job.
As long as the Democrats control this town, nothing will change.
7:06 AM
His nickname is jfLed, not jfed, Ray-Ray.
Keep your Kool-Aid.
First-grade teachers have rewritten our very language.
It's too weird.
10/04/2010 01:36:00 PM
you left out: handouts became 'entitlements'.
"Crime is down?!" How can this be when crimes against police officers is up 110%? How many of you have been the victim of a burglary or theft in the last 6 months? Me thinks the supt has sipped too much of the triple M kool-aid.
Crime Down Again?
Just more of j-fled and crime king wishing everyone living in Chicago was stupid.
Apparently and unfortunately in this instance, majority does rule.
(Hello, yellow-pinky democratic voters and the catered to constituency)
Too stupid to know that stupidity should hurt... Only those who are stupid in the first place.
The pain of such will be felt by those of us who choose to excercise discernment and clarity of vision.
Note to Chicago media...
You're reading these crooked-assed, sway-backed stats upside-down like the drunken illiterate "reading" the Sunday paper while all else can see the damn thing is upside-down.
The game is Last Ball...
The called shot is bullshit, corner pocket...
*Clack*
Even Ray Charles (RIP) could've called this shot in spite of being both blind and dead.
First off, there's a lot more to real police work than carrying around a rifle. Jesus pal, get a life.
Second, total crime numbers are based on both index and non-index crimes. Narcotics, for example is a non-index crime and is usually self-initiated (on-view). If those numbers are DOWN, then that crime is considered down.
Remember, statistics cane be made to say anything you want them to.
Anonymous said...
SCC,
Bottom line.....murders are down from last year and it looks by the end of the year there will be less murders then previous Superintendents. We are close to 1000 police officers short and we as CPD did it. My next point is we also have 1500 carbines on the street. I estimate that number will double with relaxing the fitness standards being relaxed. Ground on the outdoor range broken. That means we will have an outdoor range by next time this year. Figure that, the second largest police department in the country, and we now get an outdoor range. The previous Supt's (Martin, Rodriguez, Hillard, and Cline) never would have started a Carbine Program. Did you forget that LeRoy Martin was NOT presented with a Glock, so he got pissed off and kept Glock off the approved carry list. Even that past joke of a unit, HBT, was not allowed to carry their carbines. The only way they could take the M4s out of the truck is if they broke the seal on the case that had to be shared and later you had to write a To/From why you did. I hate to say this but J-Fed has done more for CPD then any of the previous Superintendent's. With the recent hardcore violence with assault rifles against us and the threat of terrorism I have an AR-15 in my trunk to do good things. Say whatever you want about J-Fed none of these past or future Superintendents would have allowed us to have AR-15s or the extra training that go with it. Give credit were credit is due.
10/04/2010 07:06:00 AM
So getting AR-15's makes a geat Superintendent.? That's all you care about? The AR-15's? Wow! There are many more issues than the AR-15's.
Say whatever you want about J-Fed none of these past or future Superintendents would have allowed us to have AR-15s or the extra training that go with it. Give credit were credit is due.
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Yah, this comment shows a complete lack of understanding as to how and why events unfold as they do in the CPD.
The carbine program had absolutely nothing to do with JFuck other than he happened to be the moron steering the CPD Titanic into the ground at the time. The only reason the carbine program was put in place was because for years Daley was being told he'd better arm the local police with more than just their pea shooters to reach a minimally equipped department to respond to escalating violence and the possible threat of roving attacks on Chicago citizens. This information was shoved in front of Daley on an annual basis and it wasn't until someone connected to the Daley trust fund came to the same conclusion that forced Daley to admit he had no choice but to allow the CPD to carry carbines, lest he be blamed for deliberately handicapping the CPD against the common criminal to soothe his petulant ego.
It was Daley's failure to contain the city violence that gave him no other choice but to institute the carbine program.
Weis merely glommed onto it's ownership by the allowance of Daley, just in case one of us made a fool of the CPD in the use of a carbine Daley had his fall guy all fixed up.
Go back home Weis, no one hears your fake selfpump shit here!
Anonymous said...
With the big backlog of cases. Where is that Detectives class that everyone keeps saying is coming soon? Probably just another bs rumor.
10/04/2010 12:18:00 PM
Since when are rumors bullshit? I thought rumors had verified sources of information. You cannot be that slow. There are rumors for everything. I never heard of a detective class but those that are desperate always talk about the new class. Keep up the good work, detective.
It seems like the only person not asleep at the wheel is Ben Joravansky from the Reader. Could he please reach out to us to and explain in detail how the bosses skew the numbers. Could he acquire a Freedom of Information Report on The Dist's A&A 's and worksheets, then try and see where people were and what they were doing when Violent Crimes occur. The taxpayers would be shocked to see the misallocation of manpower/hidden inside spots. Enough is Enough,I'm sick of being the whipping boy for ungrateful bosses.
A little mouse tells me E.B. believes the best way to make workers out of his "Worst Performer List" is a nice 90 day detail to 6,7,11 or 15. Hey dogs get ready to be the real police.
On the same day that I read this Tribune article that crime is down, I also read this other article (link below)that lists the 25 most dangerous neighborhoods in the U.S. based on FBI data. And the #1 most dangerous neighborhood in the U.S. is in...Chicago! Chicago earned two placements in the top 25 (#1 and #18). Maybe they were doing some preemptive damage spin.
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/10/04/25-most-dangerous-neighborhoods-2010/
YAY, come on everybody say it with me - WE'RE NUMBER ONE - WE'RE NUMBER ONE WOOT !!
25 most dangerous neighborhoods 2010
For the second year in a row, using exclusive data developed by Dr. Andrew Schiller's team at NeighborhoodScout.com, and based on FBI data from all 17,000 local law enforcement agencies, WalletPop reveals the top 25 most dangerous neighborhoods with the highest predicted rates of violent crime in America.
This year, Chicago took the not-so coveted top spot from Cincinnati for the most dangerous neighborhood, while Atlanta has the highest number of neighborhoods making the list (four).
1. Chicago, Ill.
Neighborhood: W. Lake St.
Found within ZIP code: 60612
Predicted annual violent crimes: 297
Violent crime rate (per 1,000): 257.72
My chances of becoming a victim here (in one year): 1 in 4
via http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/10/04/25-most-dangerous-neighborhoods-2010/
But wait... 60612?
BULLSHITT (I'VE SPELLED IT WITH TWO
Ts SO 35 TH ST. WOULD BE ABLE TO UNDETRSTAND
Gotta Love it!!!!!! Do they give a class on this shit, "quotes to use after your gangbanger child is killed?"
10/04/2010 07:42:00 AM
Yes, as a matter of fact there is. It's called the ghetto template. Check the other threads for it.
---not a cop
"you left out: handouts became 'entitlements'."
--10/04/2010 07:05:00 PM
Right -- and "problems" became "challenges," and are now called "issues."
"Uh, the car has an issue with the fan belt..."
Means it's broken.
TO: Say whatever you want about J-Fed none of these past or future Superintendents would have allowed us to have AR-15s or the extra training that go with it. Give credit were credit is due.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I agree..16 year vet
Anonymous said...
Yes I understand we are very under staffed and morale is the lowest I have ever seen it. But what I also see is coppers who were hired within the last ten years with serious attitude problems. I work in a "unit" where we are very well taken care of. And yet I am surrounded by a bunch of prima donnas who do nothing but complain about how everything is bullshit. They have such a sense of entitlement, from where I have no idea. Working in a "unit" we have a lot of freedom to do or not to do what we want. And yet still all the complaining. I think these kids, yes kids, need a kick in the ass and a wake up call so that they can appreciate what they have. The guys and gals working patrol to ten times the work these people do with 1/100th of the complaining. What happened to a work ethic.
10/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
Thats got MSF written all over it! HA HA HA!!!
Can add, TRU, gangs, Narcotics, etc...
Leadership is the problem, to many white shirts want to be everyones friend, you cant have it both ways all the time, be the boss...You dont have to be a jagbag, but call people on their bullshit.
Of course when this boss call BS, the clouted PO bitches and complains to their chinamen, and the boss gets bitch slapped..
Hey genuis; it is not an AR15.
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hey mr. splitting hairs, it IS an AR15 the M4 is the military version. AR 15 is for civilian market. same gun.
- the ar-15 is not a good tool for everyday urban law enforcement----
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your nuts! police work is more than domestics. what if there an LA style bank robbery or a school active shooter, workplace shooting or something along those lines and you are the first responder . go to your 9mm while someone has a rifle huh. you are an idiot and a sheep of a police officer. be perpared on all levels.
"And then fuck Sgt. Bill Bradley out of the merit process also?"
Are you suggesting this Merit Sergeant got fucked becuase he did not make merit lieutenant? Unbelievable.
I retired last year and around last July dept chiefs dets office announced to the v/c units that there were over 300 death investigation reports that had not been investigated.How many were murders? I left 6 months later and nothing was done with any of them.just wondering. Zeckman did a story about 3 years ago questioning Phil, Hiram and Mike with no answers from them and still no answers from J fled.But crime is down. When Phil got in he put Robbery into the property crime's unit to lower the stats and jfled kept it that way. That's why crime is down. All B.S.When a robbery occurs and two are shot its a robbery not an agg batt. Same as homicide, 1 dead and 3 others shot its listed as a homicide and the 3 shot disappears.
Whats up with Lt. Ryan in 022 telling his officers not to arrest people "that he knows." The person arrested had a WARRANT.....Hey LIEUTENANT...maybe they didn't teach you in MERIT class but a warrant is a judges order....has nothing to do with YOU and the bars you paid for.
Hey numbnuts, Ryan may be a jackass, but he made LT right off the test. No merit there. in fact one of the reasons he's not exempt, despite being a Rugai lackey, is because of his arrogance and obnoxiousness.
If he or any other supervisor gives you an unlawful order, disobey them and lodge a CR number.
But if you do that you better lock up EVERY body that breaks the law in your presence.
yaaaaaaaaaaawn
Anonymous said...
A little mouse tells me E.B. believes the best way to make workers out of his "Worst Performer List" is a nice 90 day detail to 6,7,11 or 15. Hey dogs get ready to be the real police.
10/04/2010 09:27:00 PM
My herniated disk isn't feeling too good. Neither are my arthritic knees and that shoulder surgery I've been putting off needs to be done. Been at this a long time. How about you? Bow wow.
To the poster who woudn't piss on J-Fled if he was on fire; I would.
As long as the Democrats control this town, nothing will change.
Has nothing to do with Democrats. little man. I'm leaving at the end of the year it can't come soon enough. Has to do with them trying to compensate for their lack of knowledge. This is why their running scared. Real police have left the building.
Anonymous said...
I hate to say this but J-Fed has done more for CPD then any of the previous Superintendent's. With the recent hardcore violence with assault rifles against us and the threat of terrorism I have an AR-15 in my trunk to do good things. Say whatever you want about J-Fed none of these past or future Superintendents would have allowed us to have AR-15s or the extra training that go with it. Give credit were credit is due.
10/04/2010 07:06:00 AM
Ray-Ray: You are already detailed back to the Superintendent's office and will never spend a day in the dreaded Patrol, stop butt munching.
10/04/2010 09:57:00 AM
Agreed......Ray Ray..... Aren't you lubed enough... What more do you want???? Oh I know, the scented candles, the edible lubes and the back rubs that MASTERS MASTERS MASTERS is getting.....
Honey get in line, go to Victoria's Secret, try on that beautiful corset set and stockings and maybe you will quit your fucking bitching!
In case this is JFLED himself............. Sir step away from the steroids and botox, they have surely gone to the wrong head. And while you're at it, take the damn uniform off you didn't deserve!
It is an AR15. You really are an idiot. Go do your nails and stop trying to play police. Here's a lesson for you:
The M4 is an AR-15 in the civilian world.
The M4 is a 16" barrel with the retractable stock. There are SO many versions out now, that even most "M4's" are not M4's.
In general a Standard AR15 has a fixed stock and 20" barrel. But as I said, there are hundereds of variations out there now. All of them are ARs.
As for the military's M16...
let me try to get this right the first time....lol.
The original rifle was the M16 or Ar15 with a 20" barrel.
The M16A1 was upgraded with a forward assist.
The M16A2 got a new rear sight system and a heavier 20" barrel with round forend. The M16A2 was semi/ 3 round burst instead of full auto.
The M16A3 is the same rifle as the A2 with the removable carry handle.
The M4 carbine has the 16" barrel with the adjustable stock.
Each and every damn rifle I listed has several variants and things have changed over the years. I did my best without typing for 10 hours.
Lots of good info on the net about the AR15/M16
B. It seems to me that this kind of thing is owned a lot more than it's used. When was the last time a dealer "criminally fortified" himself, got behind cover with something like this, and opened up on the officers serving the warrant? Overall, seems to be held more for intimidation/protection from ripoffs/gang-on-gang use.
C. Can the Second Amendment survive "multiculturalism?"
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B) Great point. These things are confiscated in random busts a helluva lot more than they're actually 'used'. It isn't exactly a huge leap of logic to assume that someone engaged in the drug business would want an effective weapon, given the sorts of people one must associate with in that geme. The leap in logic occurs when we presume that the best course of action is criminalizing drugs in the first place, thus making the marketplace fertile ground for anti-social scumbags. Legalize it, regulate it. Substance prohibition fails. We're enduring another round of the same bullshit we dealt with in the 20's.
C) Not as it was intended, no.
From Numbnuts:
Rugai Lackey=Merit Hack
and she has made many of em
The only reason Ryan isnt exempt is because of his obnoxiousness and arrogance????? So he deserves to be exempt??? Telling officers not to arrest someone who has a warrant? That is what we refer to as DUMBASS.....Telling officers not to arrest people even if they are committing crimes because HE KNOWS THEM???? this department has way too many idiots calling shots and he is one of them. Leaders arent supposed to be obnoxious and arrogant (WEIS). Leaders lead by example, obnoxious and arrogant arent traits you will find among combat soldiers...apparently Ryan fancies himself to be some sort of general....he isn't qualified to hold the jock of a young soldier returning home from overseas
Are you kidding me.....look at the exempts we have...EB isn't obnoxious and arrogant...he made it after being demoted.
"They have such a sense of entitlement, from where I have no idea...we have a lot of freedom to do or not to do what we want. And yet still all the complaining. I think these kids, yes kids, need a kick in the ass and a wake up call so that they can appreciate what they have. The guys and gals working patrol to ten times the work these people do with 1/100th of the complaining. What happened to a work ethic."
--10/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
"Entitlement generation at it's finest. The future of this country is wrecked."
--10/04/2010 04:17:00 PM
One supermarket I go to has a sign for the employees above the time clock -- "NO PAJAMAS, BATHROBES, OR SLIPPERS. NO CELL PHONES."
It really is that bad. That sign is obviously necessary, and was derived from experience.
Many of the twentysomethings and younger today? As one writer put it, "Ignorant, yet filled with self-esteem." Smug behind those shades, smirking, that "I've seen it all" monotone when they've seen and done precisely nothing. The Marketers tell them that their can of soda is "ExTrEmE."
I especially enjoy the press that "this generation is so much more technologically advanced then their forebears." I've had a soldering iron around (to put it mildly) since I was nine or so, could still build a radio transmitter with what's laying around here, and I came up with the very first home computers -- the IMSAI 8080, which had about 28 K of RAM and was programmed in binary with switches on the front panel. VIC-20, Commodore 64, then the IBM PC Junior, the IBM PC, the 286, the 386, the 486, then into the Pentiums...
So you can move stuff around on the screen of an Iphone with your finger, OMG, LOL.
Gee.
There's "low-context" and then there's "high-context." I get my digital camera and snap a picture of a part I'm making for a century-old machine tool, and e-mail the pic to a friend. I can work with and understand a lot of the technology developed in the last few hundred years; I'm not real impressed by the "so five minutes ago" crowd today. I just laugh.
Writer William Burroughs foresaw them as "The Empty Ones." There's nothing behind the attitude; they keep their heads down and keep frantically texting because if they ever looked up they might realize that and snap. Glad it's not me.
The other night, I passed a group of teenagers sitting in a semicircle on the grass; each one had a cell phone eerily glowing in his hand. Waiting for the Mother Ship to land?
It's too weird.
(There are a lot of great kids too. Get them off the phone and away from the computer and build something, go somewhere, learn something, help someone. Know your heritage, your history. They instinctively rebel against "The Machine;" teach them who and what that really is. Each generation is taught by The Marketers not to pay attention to the previous generation; it's a complete inversion of the way things have been done since the dawn of man, is all. Bust up this rotten lifestyle-package they're being sold.)
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