Another Rumor
Nothing on the FOP site as of last night that we found:
- HEY SCC:
There is a meeting this wednesday at the FOP HALL for all stripped po's citywide.
Many have complained about being stripped for long periods of time and now the union will have a lawyer there so all of our ideas together can be heard and we can as a collective group lay ground work for a class action.
Can u help in getting the word out please...
Meeting at 1000 hrs on wed 10 nov 2010
As someone pointed out, a certain commander was returned to her spot with hours of her case being dropped, so why aren't the POW's in blue granted the same courtesy?
Anyone heard about this meeting?
Anyone heard about this meeting?
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
58 Comments:
It's simple, the brass have different rules and always will.
Please file a class action suit against these jagoffs. Hang in there guys.
Yes this meeting is planned for wednesday at 1000 hrs for all stripped po's. Time has come for it not to be ok for the department to mind-f...coppers at call back for a long period of time.
Will call in the morning and verify.
I never thought of pows until recent developments. It could be anyone of us tomorrow and it really is time they have a fair time period to get these cases done. In some cases there will be discipline but in many there should be the ability to get back to the street and get dignity back in their lives...
100% true
"As someone pointed out, a certain commander was returned to her spot with hours of her case being dropped, so why aren't the POW's in blue granted the same courtesy?"
Because the Commander is one of the "Anointed" ones.
As for you dogs in the blue shirts, or a few stripes on your sleeve, GET BACK IN YOUR HOLE!
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
45 Officers stripped in October alone.
the police department doesn't care how long you are stripped because you are getting full pay and benefits while assigned to call back--- what iad and ipra do not understand is the enormous mental toll this places on restricted officers--- due process or the right to a speedy trial are rights afforded citizens of this country--- it should be no different for police officers....
As someone pointed out, a certain commander was returned to her spot with hours of her case being dropped, so why aren't the POW's in blue granted the same courtesy?
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Because it's al part of the "fuck the police" down to the 5000 mark, no matter what campaign.
These fucksticks, Emanuel included, intend to get sworn police down to 5000 in Chicago in any way they can, and keeping blue shirts off the street at callback is part of their "prove up".
Watch. As I stated several times here before, sworn police will only be used to respond to in progress crimes in the very near future. All other crimes and administrative tasks will be performed by civilians or fake rent-a-cops hired by the "machine" to do the lesser work. It's win win for the shithead politicians. They get to hire any shitbag gangster they want to act like police without spending even half of what it costs to train an actual cop. They will be bringing back "special police" which will stand there and act like cops, but with limited authority.
Watch for this scam to be "outsourced" to some newly contrived "security" business run by one of the machine buddies.
It's the new way to control who's the police and who aint, thereby getting around the contract and weakening the union.
Mark those words.
There is precedent set by the way some have gone back to work and others still being toyed with. As we all know-past precedent is KEY in Civil court.
Good luck all of you POWs !
If they could they would privatize the police, so some donating supporter could have the contract and political patronage could be doled out, away from the view of the federal hiring monitor. For profit firms enforcing the laws, which is what is being done through the revenue department's use of those parking enforcement companies, is not supposed to happen in a free and democratic society. Law enforcement takes an oath to enforce the laws impartially. There is not supposed to be any profit motive in enforcing the laws. I do not believe people have thought this situation through very well.
The FOP doing something for these guys??
MUST BE AN ELECTION YEAR!
This should taken place A LONG TIME AGO!!!!
Why is fop not advertising the meeting ! Good job unit rep at 376 for pushing this finally!
You should be the new union president!
"As someone pointed out, a certain commander was returned to her spot with hours of her case being dropped, so why aren't the POW's in blue granted the same courtesy?
Because the Commander is one of the "Anointed" ones.
I have a question. If Lewis was dumped for no apparent reason, and at least two south side DC's, and one northside DC is sitting on the chopping block for performance/political issues, why is Trahanas, with her domestic issues and poor performance, still an exempt?
Could it be because those westside politicians and revereneds got her back no matter what? Did they squeeze the last bit of testosterone out of Jody and company?
just asking.
Heard there is an exempt meeting to take place this week about whether TRU is to be merged with MSF or disbanded? Anyone have details???????????
"Watch. As I stated several times here before, sworn police will only be used to respond to in progress crimes in the very near future. All other crimes and administrative tasks will be performed by civilians or fake rent-a-cops hired by the "machine" to do the lesser work."
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By decree, all 1st/3rd watch po-pos shall be put into a Moble Stroke Farce/ Tactical Retard Unit. So it shall be written, so it shall be done.
class action suit is needed for many of this P.Os. Just dont let fop handle it, they will ram it in your ass. And Im one of the sad fucks that voted for the current group TWICE! NOT AGAIN THOUGH!! As for the stripped coppers, many are good guys and girls that got screwed by the administration and deserve to be back on the street, some of them however NEED TO BE FIRED
There shouldn't be different rules. We all do the same thing or even the regular patrol officers take greater risks when doing a traffic stop and responding to a domestic. The rules should apply to all ranks and not just the ones been hunted. 020 district for example the bosses do whatever and once they target someone as not liked, they keep at it like a witch hunt. For some reason the rules do not apply to them.
the police department doesn't care how long you are stripped because you are getting full pay and benefits while assigned to call back--- what iad and ipra do not understand is the enormous mental toll this places on restricted officers--- due process or the right to a speedy trial are rights afforded citizens of this country--- it should be no different for police officers....
11/08/2010 02:55:00 AM
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It isn't a matter of whether IAD or IPRA 'understand'. They simply don't CARE. It's not their function.
It is, however, the function of those higher up. Shame on them all for not doing something about it until forced to. I sincerely hope the settlement monies have to come from their own personal bank accounts.
Mark those words.
11/08/2010 04:59:00 AM
Not a chance this city can function with 5000 PO's. People will be laying dead on the streets and killers will run free without fear of arrest.
You're an idiot!
OT: Prospect Heights just laid off 6 Police Officers. That means their Police Department is now down to 15 Officers and also jeopardizing the safety of those current Officers on the street.
Some of us (CPD) aren't happy of what we got (i.e. salary, benefits, forlough days, etc.) and always asking for more. But then, we never think about other Police Department across the nation who are going to a serious budget cuts. I thank God I still have a job and able to provide needs for my family.
And how bout demanding cr numbers on the investigators for inattention to duty when it is clear that they mishandled a case. Police Board decisions very CLEARLY show that!
Amongst other avenues....
Think about it. Who would be the first to lose their jobs in a Socialist takeover, the real police of course. The Socialists would certainly replace the real police with people they control.
I don't know what's going to come from this meeting but this problem should have been addressed long ago. I have a few years behind me (22)and often wondered how the police department was able to legally get away with time after time. I'm hoping that some legal recourse is being considered as this longstanding behavior needs to come to an end. It should ceratinly start with the union and they should not rest until all legal courses of action are exhausted. Remember, it could be you tomorow and it only takes a few words from a complainant.
If they do reduce the overall strength I hope they allow some of us revolverasaurus rex folks to do a buy out of some sort. I will be gone tomorrow if that happens and I will gladly give my cush beat car to some up and comer. My hair jell will be in the glove compartment. That trail of worn out uniform parts leading from the police station to the parking lot might be from me.
A police officer who loses his police powers still receives his full pay and benefits but is unable to carry a weapon or arrest anyone.
This protects both the city and the officer from being liable for any actions that the officer might take while the investigation is taking place. Failure to do this only allows lawyers, like Flint, to proclaim that the city does not care about the citizens.
It might not look fair but it is for the protection of everyone.
Today, as of 12:00 pm, I contacted the FOP and they know nothing about htis meeting. Next time someone wants to put this on here they should include some contact information so the "stranded" officers' at callback can get a decent answer. Putting "rumors" on here only continues the bullshit many of the p.o's are struggling with. Any furhter info please post contact info so people can verify this. Thanks and stay safe.
NON-Clouted P.O.
Anonymous said...
Please file a class action suit against these jagoffs. Hang in there guys.
11/08/2010 12:39:00 AM
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Do you have any clue about what you are saying.
I don't know what's going to come from this meeting but this problem should have been addressed long ago. I have a few years behind me (22)and often wondered how the police department was able to legally get away with time after time. I'm hoping that some legal recourse is being considered as this longstanding behavior needs to come to an end. It should ceratinly start with the union and they should not rest until all legal courses of action are exhausted. Remember, it could be you tomorow and it only takes a few words from a complainant.
Would it really be better if the department fired officers and they had to fight and get their jobs back in a no-pay status. Think about losing the 1st and the 16th. Each one has to be a case to case basis.
I agree Sandy Nash for FOP president. She would be better than Shields.
Take it from one who knows: The city's position is they give you the star and can take it away at their discretion. The real problem started under Starks who would strip officers without any investigation being completed. Weis and Brust have pushed this
envelope well past any shred of reasonableness. At least conduct some investigation before you strip. Have reasonable suspicion that something transpired. Officers are harmed by being stripped. Can't go to court, aren't elibible for educational/training. opportunities . . . Most side jobs unavailable since you're not the police. You can't even drive a department vehicle. I'd strip Brust, what a clueless fuck.
Tomorrow "Downtown Ernie(I ain't your baby's daddy) Brown" will announce that he is really a Martian Sent here from the planet "Moronovic" to Show how his planet has not yet evolved from primitive forms of plankton!
Who's your daddy?
Ernie Brown be my daddy!
By the way,
MASTERS MASTERS MASTERS!
Damn, does this beg for some sort of response.
11:02:00 AM
"You're an idiot."
No...
You're the BIGGEST idiot.
Pay attention dammit!
You obviously blinked and missed what the hell has been going on the last 10 years, Rip fucking Van Winkle!
The powers that be DON'T GIVE A SHIT AS TO WHETHER THIS CITY CAN FUNCTION WITH 5000 OR LESS POLICE OFFICERS.
Daley Inc. doesn't give a shit about people who get that ass up and go to work. They're only concerned about the resolute non-contributor, straight democratic voting, alderfool & rev'run led revenue and resource spongers.
Are you awake yet?
The original poster is dead on and firing for effect.
Are you that big an idiot that you willfully fail to see that middle class taxpayers who pay the freight in this town are literally being hunted on the streets?
Shrinking the Police Department and pulling every legislative sleight of hand to enable the city to divorce itself from it's duty and responsibility to field, equip, train and pay a viable Police Department?
You're a shrill shill of the worst sort and an Imperial Asshat...
May you learn to love and appreciate your alderfool & runnin' dog rev'run, cocked-hat security contractors.
You also probably think the current municipal budget mess will be magically resolved if "the greedy cops" took paycuts and furlough days, right?
Fact notwithstanding that the city has already saved approximately the deficit amount in benefits and salary through attrition over the last five years.
Where has the money gone?
KLEPTOCRATIC MUTHAFUCKAHS CAN'T STOP STEALING!!
Why don't you peddle that old crazy wrapped in new packaging somewhere else?
Bulls*&^T it's about protecting the officer while being investigated. It's about throwing charges at someone in hopes something sticks. Remember the aggressor has to be lucky only once, the target has to be lucky every time. Watch your a$$ if your not hooked up with the clout.
Anonymous said...
A police officer who loses his police powers still receives his full pay and benefits but is unable to carry a weapon or arrest anyone.
This protects both the city and the officer from being liable for any actions that the officer might take while the investigation is taking place. Failure to do this only allows lawyers, like Flint, to proclaim that the city does not care about the citizens.
It might not look fair but it is for the protection of everyone.
11/08/2010 12:01:00 PM
For the protection of who? How about quick stripping without a complete investigation? Or keeping officers stripped for years without continuing the investigation? Bullshit. It only protects the image of Weiss as one who acted quickly on the slightest complaint. No protection for the officers stripped.
i hope when these officers are stripped they dont get confronted by some asshole they arrested,they still have to live in this shit hole with no way to protect themselves.
I am wondering whether or not it would be feasible to contact Chuck Goudie regarding the 2009 C.F.D. Lieutenant's exam and possible corruption in the delay of getting the results of said test! Apparently, the individual responsible has now retired and is either holding back or has lost portions of the materials needed by the government to validate said test! Any ideas.....
Rumor has it that a big meeting with Exempts is being planned to figure out when their next meeting is!
The class action should be against the duplicity of discipline and its disparate application.
If your case is dropped or your police powers restored without a sustained findings consider sueing for emotional (psych) trauma and consortium where applicable.
020 district for example the bosses do whatever and once they target someone as not liked, they keep at it like a witch hunt. For some reason the rules do not apply to them.
11/08/2010 10:54:00 AM
Just like they did to that airport sergeant several years ago. They created a hostile work environment which forced him to leave.
You misread the request. They want "stripper" PO's to attend the meeting.
Anonymous said...
I am wondering whether or not it would be feasible to contact Chuck Goudie regarding the 2009 C.F.D. Lieutenant's exam and possible corruption in the delay of getting the results of said test! Apparently, the individual responsible has now retired and is either holding back or has lost portions of the materials needed by the government to validate said test! Any ideas.....
11/08/2010 07:39:00 PM
Sounds rock solid to me. Go for it. For a lawyer you could hire retired Lt. Joe Fitzsimmons. He is an expert in harebrained and crackpot lawsuits. This sounds right up his alley.
Some shit bird, lazy, dog ass bums love call back. No responsibilities, no fear, no danger, just a pay check every 2 weeks and a warm/cool place to work. It's a paradise.
How many Officers do we have in call back right now?? I never understood how it takes months/years to get these allegations cleared up. I know, I know, because the city could care less, but really, interview the officer, get any witness statements, review any video, make a damn decesion, give the Officer their days, and get them the hell back on the streets, if their case warrants that.
to all my fellow po's rotting away at 2111 w lexington, hang in there and never let them beat you down--- to all of you down there who made a mistake, we are all human beings and their is life beyond the chicago police department--- to all of you who are down there because of a bullshit beef, one day you will once again be putting that beat tag on top of a car and turning on your motorola radio, don't lose hope, keep your head up and remember who your friends are...
"And how bout demanding cr numbers on the investigators for inattention to duty when it is clear that they mishandled a case. Police Board decisions very CLEARLY show that!
Amongst other avenues...."
asshat - im sure you never had a judge give no probable cause on any of your cases. they should get a cr number on you for mishandling the case and on the w/c for approving the arrest report.
RESPONDING TO COMPANY MAN CALLING ME ASSHAT:
In pc hearings we relate the facts as contained in our reports as they occurred. As real police know judges throw some things out simply due to the small weight etc..We have no choice but to arrest even in small cases. If we didnt guys like you would charge us !
WHat I was referring to was the lack of actual investigation done by the investigators. They dont follow thru with complete invetigations yet little things could bring the element of doubt yet causing the case to be not sustained.
That is just one of many things. In addition to the summary that is done has so many errors that the investigators look real bad on the stand at the police board or civil deps.
But that will happen when they are told to stick it to someone and do just that instead of doing a real investigation.
Now get back to your desk and wait for your next "screw a cop" marching orders from a boss you ASSHAT!
Damn, does this beg for some sort of response.
11:02:00 AM
"You're an idiot."
No...
You're the BIGGEST idiot.
Pay attention dammit!
You obviously blinked and missed what the hell has been going on the last 10 years, Rip fucking Van Winkle!
The powers that be DON'T GIVE A SHIT AS TO WHETHER THIS CITY CAN FUNCTION WITH 5000 OR LESS POLICE OFFICERS.
Daley Inc. doesn't give a shit about people who get that ass up and go to work. They're only concerned about the resolute non-contributor, straight democratic voting, alderfool & rev'run led revenue and resource spongers.
Are you awake yet?
The original poster is dead on and firing for effect.
Are you that big an idiot that you willfully fail to see that middle class taxpayers who pay the freight in this town are literally being hunted on the streets?
Shrinking the Police Department and pulling every legislative sleight of hand to enable the city to divorce itself from it's duty and responsibility to field, equip, train and pay a viable Police Department?
You're a shrill shill of the worst sort and an Imperial Asshat...
May you learn to love and appreciate your alderfool & runnin' dog rev'run, cocked-hat security contractors.
You also probably think the current municipal budget mess will be magically resolved if "the greedy cops" took paycuts and furlough days, right?
Fact notwithstanding that the city has already saved approximately the deficit amount in benefits and salary through attrition over the last five years.
Where has the money gone?
KLEPTOCRATIC MUTHAFUCKAHS CAN'T STOP STEALING!!
Why don't you peddle that old crazy wrapped in new packaging somewhere else?
Wow!! What a miserable person you are, I bet you do nothing but complain and gossip. Let me guess, "no contract no contact". Go back to sleep officer....
asshat - im sure you never had a judge give no probable cause on any of your cases. they should get a cr number on you for mishandling the case and on the w/c for approving the arrest
They do its called a civil suit for false arrest, which triggers and automatic cr. happens all teh time now.
11/09/2010 07:08:00 PM
Still in concurrence with the original poster.
Whether we're bitter or not has nothing to do with the massive criminal conspiracy undertaken by usual suspects at City Hall and their apt and able confederates in the media and blissfully asleep and unaware sheep like yourself.
Your head is in the sand and you wonder why the world is lined up to kick pockets in your ass.
We and others are and very much prefer to be wide the fuck awake.
Idiot.
We may be tilting at windmills but we and others will continue to bear witness and shout from the rooftops about the cancer of multigenerational kleptocracy infecting municipal governance.
We'll say it again.
CPD is being reduced with maximum prejudice with NO CONSIDERATION WHATSOEVER to the hard working captive and hunted tax payers.
Tax payers are in the minority here. They only exist to support the "Catered To Constituency."
Anyone who works like a dog, one third to one half of their lives and stays here to support a system set up to provide aid and comfort to chronic non-contributors is a fool.
You can go back to posing your my pretty pony "action" figures.
And since you brought up "no contract no contact..." Please. By all means enjoy the soon coming rev'run and alderfool cocked hat security contractors since there won't be enough Police left to pry the jaws of a weremutt from your tender hindparts.
Meeting was productive and now the executive board will decide along with the atty if they should file a grievance(blanket) or a law suit. Some very interesting points made.
Thnks FOP !
Finally something to be done !
Feel sorry for people stuck in limbo for years.
Should name Brust and company individually !
Be on the lookout for an article in Sun Times re: call back and folks stripped for periods of time that are just plain insane!
Thank God someone is finally looking into this bullshit.
Free our POW"S!
Hear that 35th st is buzzing over this topic and maybe they realize that this "penalty box" they call Alternate Response is damaging hard working coppers and causing a hardship on this department when folks are away so damn long.
And have to say it didnt happen under this regime. This has been going on for years and years.
Mr. Weiss, put and end to this madness and get those guys/gals back to work . Spank them a bit if they were in fact wrong. If not and its a bs and a bad investigation, get them back on the beat....
Looks like meeting had some impact: One pow who had a judge write a letter to cpd saying he was in the right and should have never been arrested, just getting put back to work as of monday!
Ok 125 pows left citywide! Yes 125more-Many more stripped for nothing...
Sandy Nash unit rep unit 376 for FOP pres.
Bella is a useless dinasaur!
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