Quinn's Mandate?
At first, we thought he and Huberman were going to make some announcement. Then we realized he actually believes he has carte blanche to really stick it to voters:
- Gov. Pat Quinn may have won the governor's race by the narrowest margin in nearly three decades, but he's not letting that stop him from claiming he now has a "mandate" from voters to raise the state income tax for schools.
"I think our message of investing in education was supported by the people," Quinn told the Tribune. "I think that is a really strong mandate that I got. I know from the campaign, people made that pretty clear to me, and I think the election returns said the same thing."
Really? You win by the smallest margin in history, under 25,000 votes, and suddenly, you can raise taxes? Has this softball even noticed Illinois' unemployment rate - it's higher than the national average. Businesses continue to flee our state and population can't be far behind. The budget deficit is something like $15 billion dollars and spending is out of control.
Talk about getting exactly the wrong message from voters. Combine this with the property tax bills going out shortly that were purposely held back by the democrats and you can truly marvel at the ignorant voters who put this twit in charge for another 4 years.
Maybe that "governor recall mechanism" just passed on the ballot will be getting a workout shortly. We can only hope.
Talk about getting exactly the wrong message from voters. Combine this with the property tax bills going out shortly that were purposely held back by the democrats and you can truly marvel at the ignorant voters who put this twit in charge for another 4 years.
Maybe that "governor recall mechanism" just passed on the ballot will be getting a workout shortly. We can only hope.
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121 Comments:
I don't even think he knows what he's saying anymore.
Unbelievable that Quinn won this race over Bill Brady!!!
Bill Brady is a businessman more qualified to balance the budget.
The people of Illinois just screwed themselves once again.
Can you asshole Quinn supporters pay for my tax increases? After all, you voted for this moron!
Mandate my ass. less that 1% separated the two candidates. Quinn calls it a mandate, I say he's been smoking some medicinal pot.
I still think schenanagins (sp) were played.
"Temporary surcharge" No such thing at temporary with the lefties. Call it what it is,,,,a fucking tax hike and the POSs down in Springfield just can't wait to whip it on us.
I only give Quinn props for his supporting of our home state troops.
Quinn has been a pain in the ass for his entire public career.
Whatever SCC. Looks like Quinn pulled a page from the republican post election playbook. For instance, polls show that Americans are almost perfectly split on healthcare or ''Obamacare'' yet republicans tout the results of the election as a repudiation of all of Obama's policies. Unfortunately Quinn won. He can say whatever the fuck he wants, no matter how insane. Just like the republicans. - Discouraged moderate.
Anonymous said...
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All of you coppers and firemen who voted for Quinn check this out with your pension board.................................................................
If Quinn is elected, he wantes to add a 4% income tax to our pension. Currently Illinois does not tax our pensions,.. we have zero.
They want to reduce cost of living to 1/2 of the CPI and reduce the surviving spouse benefits for all current and all future retirees
11/06/2010 12:25:00 AM
Has anyone verified this? If you lump this in with property tax raise and state income tax raise
WTF
Quinn said from day one he would raise taxes. It was the NON-taxpayers whose votes put him over the top... them and all the other idiots who voted for him.
Brady's plan was less government and fewer giveaway programs... we know who didn't want to see that happen.
As a retiree, trust me when I tell you that every dollar of your pension is important to you, and Quinn coming after 4% of it (in addition to all of the other economic problems already out there), could possibly send some retired coppers in search of employment.
These damn pols think their mandate is to just keep spending and spending the publics' money. Just once, I'd like to see a 'forensic audit' of the budgets of the City, County, State, the CTA the CPS, the CPD, the Tollway Authority, the Pier Exposition Authority, the Water Reclamation District, the County Assessors' office and the assessed property taxes of the county etc, etc, etc!
Just like I'm sure the CPD could eliminate MILLION$ in wasted salaries and spending, it can be done throughout government. I am soooo tired of these jags figuring all they have to do is get it from Joe Taxpayer instead of gutting their own bureaucracies! How the f*ck can ANY taxpayer vote to keep these people in office? I just don't understand it!
wouldn't that be a bite in patty's ass, to be recalled by the very change in law that he supported.
how about posting the entire text of the new law, date of it's implementation and get the ball rolling.
"You win by the smallest margin in history, under 25,000 votes, and suddenly, you can raise taxes?" -- SCC
Mandate? Hell, how about "fluke?"
Pat Quinn Has Scott Lee Cohen To Thank For Survival In Governor's Race
"The clear difference in the race is Scott Lee Cohen, who took 50,000 Cook votes.
"The numbers make good sense in context. Cook is a heavily Democratic area, but the two Democratic candidates were both quite unpopular. Many voters probably wanted to file a protest vote against Quinn and Giannoulias.
"In the Senate race, they may have found the Green and Libertarians too out-there to vote for, and gone with Republican Kirk. But in the governor's race, Cohen had spent millions of his own money -- primarily in Chicago -- portraying himself as a political outsider who was fighting for jobs.
"In so doing, he probably took a good deal of the protest vote from Brady. Those 30,000 votes that Kirk got and Brady didn't would have clearly made the difference in the Governor's race."
http://www.huffingtonpost.
com/2010/11/03/pat-quinn-
has-scott-lee-c_n_778321.
html
Quinn is a mush. Looks, acts and sounds like a pussy. He will drive this state into bankruptcy and the sheeple who voted for his sorry ass will have only themselves to blame.
That commercial with Mayor Washington was right on the money. This guy doesn't belong in politics. Weak. Very, very weak.
Word has it IAD had a shipment of new toys delivered on Friday. Drive sober my friends and stop shooting at them damn dogs. you've been warned!!!
I think it's worth repeating:
Word has it IAD had a shipment of new toys delivered on Friday. Drive sober my friends and stop shooting at them damn dogs. you've been warned!!!
I can't believe this moron got elected. I think he is actually dumber than Blago. There is literally no intelligent thought behind that vacant stare of his.
For all you Dems that hate Sarah Palin & Christine O'Donnell and talk about how stupid they are, how do you look past Daley, Stroger, Blago, & Quinn. All incompetent morons that get your votes because of the (D) next to their names.
This state is doomed.
just saw that it costs 99 dollars to renew my license plates-Fuck off Quinn!
"I think our message of investing in education was supported by the people," Quinn told the Tribune.
How ironic that the uneducated and under-educated masses that voted for him will be the same ones to reap the benefits of new schools, additional educational resources and various other special programs...things 95% of them will never even use.
You know the kind...those that never made it through high school themselves, but go on to have 6 or 7 kids of their own that will rarely set foot in a classroom. These same "people" that get paid to babysit their own kids in addition to living off the taxpayer's teat via subsidized housing, discounted utilities, free health care and a monthly stipend for food will account for the lion's share of those who'll potentially benefit from tax hikes directed towards the school system.
In a nutshell, Quinn is saying he plans on maintaining the current system of rewards for the least deserving non-contributors while the working stiff gets it pounded balls-deep and dry.
And kudos on your sneaky thread title, SCC...your reference to LubeYerMan being Quinn's "Man Date" almost escaped me. However, once discovered, I was inspired to throw in my own carnal reference in the proceeding paragraph.
The fact that he is rasing taxes is going to maintain the state payments to the pension funds, hopefully!!! This may be the silver lining to the dark cloud of tax increase, that our pension funds may remain solvent. It is better than going into bankruptcy!!! I wsasn't for democrats but, I didn't want to see my pension fund go into bankruptcy either.
it's uncomprehensible that this moron was voted into office,
Harold Washington said he wouldn't even hire him to be a dog catcher, yet we voted him in.This state deserves what's coming it's way!
It wasn’t the “ignorant voters” who elected Quinn, he prevailed only because of massive vote fraud by the machine.
A revolt is brewing. Wait until the real estate tax bill magically appears and you must empty your bank account to pay for same.
I hope that the media then informs us who are Madigan/Berrios/Quinn backers who will appear on the aldermanic/mayoral ballot because they will pay the price.
The Land of Lincoln gets screwed again.
He's a Damnocrat. That alone is reason enough to do what he pleases.
Sad thing is that in 4 years, the mindless ninnies that vote "MACHINE" here in Illinois will forget the screwing and declare him a god.
Sad that a man that won only Cook County can win the election.
Anonymous said...
Wait until the real estate tax bill magically appears and you must empty your bank account to pay for same.
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Actually my property tax bill dropped,just as most of your will.
You can call the county assessor to get your amount due or wait till this Wednesday (Nov 10th) when the bills are mailed.
All you coppers and firemen who voted for this FUCK,and you know you're out there,I hope you're really happy with receiving 4% less of your pension money when you retire and watching it turn into more free shit for some other FUCK who never earned a penny in his/her life.
FUCKING DUMB ILLINOIS VOTERS.
Do you think the teachers' union had anything to do with it?
One hand DO wash the other.
@ 11/07/2010 03:38:00 AM
Hell yeah.
How the heck does Ghoulianias get defeated an Quinn elected?????????
Vote fraud.
Buck Naked
(not a cop)
The fact that he is rasing taxes is going to maintain the state payments to the pension funds, hopefully!!! This may be the silver lining to the dark cloud of tax increase, that our pension funds may remain solvent. It is better than going into bankruptcy!!! I wsasn't for democrats but, I didn't want to see my pension fund go into bankruptcy either.
11/07/2010 01:59:00 AM
Hey moron,we are not part of the state pension system. No effect on us
Something is up with that Scott Lee Cohen. He wins the Lt Governor election and then drops out of the race because as he said he is shamed, when a lame story about his scandalous past breaks.
Then suddenly he does a 360 and runs for governor? It just doesn't make sense. Did Quinn and his minions put Cohen up to that?
Pat Quinn Has Scott Lee Cohen To Thank For Survival In Governor's Race
"The clear difference in the race is Scott Lee Cohen, who took 50,000 Cook votes.
NO WAY. You really think Brady would have gotten enough of the Cook county vote to win? Not a chance in hell. Anyone who voted for Cohen would have been a vote for Quinn. It was downstate that screwed Illinois again. Cook county can't elect a Governor by itself, it was the unions and liberals that did this again. I knew after Blago got re-elected this state went full libtard. Look, Quinn says blatantly that he is going to raise your income taxes and Brady says he won't. It's plain and simple who put Quinn in the victors column, those who do not pay taxes, those beholden to the Democratic party, and Liberals who only vote one way. Any downstate vote that went for Quinn was a stab in the back. I'm totally surprised that Kirk won though. I don't like Kirk at all but there wasn't much of a choice here. I second the thought that only those who voted for Quinn should have their taxes raised, after all it's the Democrats that put us in this financial hole. You can't keep robbing Peter to save Paul, Peter is broke and pissed off.
i blame the republicans that didnt vote/ why? because they(we) say our vote doesnt count we live in a democratic state/ just imagine if they voted/
THANKS FOR VOTING FOR THIS GUY
All the good folks are moving out of this godforsaken state so the illegals & bustouts can move in -- Free Handouts Folks! Keep building more schools; raise takes for education so you can give it away to those that DO NOT pay for it. I can't wait to get the F*ck out of this city & state.
Given there are 1694 voting precincts, Brady would have had to have won by more than 50,000 votes to have had a chance at winning. The number of votes the democrats steal through multiple registrations, illegal immigrant voters and mail in ballots are just too much to overcome.
The entire country needs a national voter ID that is either fingerprint identifiable or biometrically identifiable. That is the only way the American people will be able to take back its country from the commie/socialists.
Word has it IAD had a shipment of new toys delivered on Friday. Drive sober my friends and stop shooting at them damn dogs. you've been warned!!!
Are you saying we must drive sober NOW becuase a shipment of "toys" to IAD? Disregard the law and the fact you are law enforcement, these "toys" are going to scare us straight. What an idiot.
Word has it IAD had a shipment of new toys delivered ... stop shooting at them damn dogs. you've been warned!!!
11/07/2010 12:54:00 AM
The 2-legged or 4-legged kind?
Anonymous said...
it's incomprehensible that this moron was voted into office,
Harold Washington said he wouldn't even hire him to be a dog catcher, yet we voted him in.This state deserves what's coming it's way!
11/07/2010 02:18:00 AM
Madigan and Cullerton are pleased that Quinn is governor. Quinn will get nothing done that Madigan/Cullerton do not approve.
Do not be tricked into believing that Quinn will really run things. He can release a few prisoners or hire and fire some underlings but any real legislation has to go through the Illinois House and Senate and that is the province of Madigan and Cullerton.
They will have an easier time of it with Quinn than if Brady had gotten elected.
This is, after all, Madiganistan.
WOW! It seems the 3rd watch Captain in 023 has made the biggest pinch of his career. A officer got hurt on the first day on his watch and the Captain took it upon himself to investigate the legitamacy of the officer's injury. IAD was alerted to what was deemed to be a bogus IAD and now the officer will be stripped shortly.
They should go around and raise taxes on the stupid fuckin morons that voted for this clown...Cook county has the stupidest voters on the planet. Good job again idiots!
Instead of raising taxes why not audit the school system and get rid of these "consultants" and overcharging vendors. Too much money is going into non education expenses.Schools are not social service agencies, they are education agencies. Stop with the free breakfasts, lunches,warming centers, social workers etc. There is enough money but it is being severely mismanaged. Anyone with enough sense knows to move out of Illinois as soon as you can and leave it with its non-taxpaying citizens.
Stop voting for democrats already!!!!
I wonder what % of Illinois does not pay income tax....???
Everyone is talking about the tax increase for education... Where is the lottery money going??????
I'll tell you what was an important key to this race: Bill Brady's honesty, it really screwed him in the end. Bill Brady was for rolling the minimum wage back, that didn't hurt him because no one making minimum wage was going to vote for him anyway. Bill Brady was going to cut spending, that didn't hurt him because those that don't want spending cut aren't paying taxes anyway and wern't going to vote for him. Bill Brady is pro-life and that is why he lost. I am also pro-life but I am not naive enough to think that any elected official will be able to overturn Roe v. Wade no matter how important it is to them. However many voters are naive enough to think that way. The most damage to pro-choicers by Brady would have been some cut funding, which he was going to cut funding across the board anyway to keep the state afloat financially. He didn't get enough votes up in N.E. Illinois to win, I bet he got very few female votes up here. All of us that work for a living are going to get raked over the coals for the next four years. If a Republican can't win next election the state is forever doomed and look for serious talk of the southern part of the state looking to secede.
Anonymous said...
It wasn’t {JUST} the “ignorant voters” who elected Quinn, he prevailed only because of massive vote fraud by the machine.
11/07/2010 03:38:00 AM
Fixed it for you...
http://tinyurl.com/2adjgcd
this a map by county of IL of who won the gov race, mandate? no!
The people of Illinois just screwed themselves once again.
Can you asshole Quinn supporters pay for my tax increases? After all, you voted for this moron!
11/07/2010 12:09:00 AM
It was not the people of Illinois. It was the Democratic zombies from Chicago that put him in. Add two counties of non-taxpayers downstate and there you have it.
The tax increase for education? This state has the most mismanaged education system in the country. If we don't already spend more per student than any other state, then we are at least near the top. Fix it before you raise more taxes to throw down that hole.
"he now has a "mandate" from voters to raise the state income tax for schools."
Hey Quinn, what the fuck is the Ill. Lottery for?!?!
Dumb ass thief. Dont worry, you can be Blago's ass-buddy in prison.
Word has it IAD had a shipment of new toys delivered on Friday. Drive sober my friends and stop shooting at them damn dogs. you've been warned!!!
11/07/2010 12:54:00 AM
First, you gotta catch me. And with the departments "No Chase" policy, its gonna be hard to do as I speed off at a whopping 35mph.
However, this may be the only time that the department lets officers chase.
thank god he won. brady is an asshat.
Nice work dummies, Why does the ignorance of this city keep voting democrat?
Can not wait for an increase in taxes, since we are getting a fair cost of living raise to off set it...
We are screwed again.
Capt 023 turned IAD on to a IOD abuser and now it seems "the baker" is in a real cookie!
Unbelievable that Quinn won this race over Bill Brady!!!
Bill Brady is a businessman more qualified to balance the budget.
The people of Illinois just screwed themselves once again.
Can you asshole Quinn supporters pay for my tax increases? After all, you voted for this moron!
11/07/2010 12:09:00 AM
How can they when he will be driving out all the business.
Read Sunday Tribune Column by John Kass. It will help explain Quinn.
The MAN it CHARGE, is not Quinn.
There has been some rumors that the Cook County tax assessor will propose a new method of calculating property taxes and it will not be totally based on the property values. The political class does not want to reduce property taxes now that our home values are in the tank. This new method of calculating taxes is one reason that the tax bills will be coming late. They are not going down. I just do not buy Quinn and his higher state income tax for education. I think the answer is a new way of doing business for the schools. Way too much of our tax base goes for schools at this point: 2/3 of the property tax, a large portion of the state income tax, the lottery. The schools just do not hold the line on spending and the teachers think the schools are there for their benefit. Quin also wants to tax pensions and reduce the widows benefits in our pension. The fun is just starting.
Quinn got the most votes here in Chicago. People here are very dense.
I just received an e-mail that allegedly came from Mike Shields of the pension board. He claims that a house bill was put it, but does not appear to be going anywhere, this bill would include the CPD into pension reforms. He states everything is just rumor at this point, including taxing our pensions. There is a movement to raise the retirement age to 55 and increase contributions of the working coppers and to reduce widows benefits. However, Daley stated that he will go to Springfield after the election to introduce legislation for a two tier system.
It is impossible to fix a 15billiion dollar deficit with just spending cuts alone. And Brady tried selling that BS and he lost. We have to raise the state income tax by at least one percent. Illinois has one of the lowest around. And least he had the balls to say the truth and not pander. To be governor of this state or mayor of this city now is almost guaranteeing yourself one term. Its gonna get worst before it gets better. But quit bullshitting yourselves into thinking that the spending and deficit is the blame of one party.
Illinois just got a "wooden nickle" for Gov.
WTF !!
we got bigger problems than quinn--- the black community has decided to shake the dust off danny davis and prop him up for a run for mayor--- if he gets in the transformation of this city into a mutt paradise will be completed--- quinn said all along that he was going to raise taxes, how else are they going to keep caring for all the welfare leeches we have living in this city and state......
Early voting and absentee ballots did wonders for this guy. It's the best thing for Illinois politicians because it gives dead people a chance to vote again and again.
It's the mass media brain washing misuse of the word 'entitlement'.
Some tax financed/subsidized 'benefits' are earned benefits and some tax financed/subsidized 'benefits' are not.
Those benefits that are NOT earned are NOT 'entitlements', they are handouts, charity, mooch swag, beggar booty, etc., compelled working class contributions to the growing mass of freebie addicts.
In a nation once populated by a majority of 'little red hens', working diligently to 'bake the bread', it's ironic that we, the working people, have allowed the 'not I!' sloths of society to determine the outcomes of our representative government elections.
How much longer will the honest, working majority of Americans tolerate this gross misuse/abuse of our inherent sense of Christian charity?
Remember the old saying, if you want good government, you've got
to pay for it. But as we all know
here in Madiganizan (Illinois),
when it comes to honest/decent
government you don't always get
what you pay for.
And the voters saw the dishonesty
and lies but they still went ahead
and returned these bozo to office.
And the main one that has me scratching my head in amazement is
hiw they elected Joe Berrios as
Assessor with all of his conflicts
of interests. When the taxes reach
beyond our ability to pay, maybe
The Madigan/Quinn will distribute
more "kool-aid" and "hopium" to help ease the pain, of course there
will be a small fee.
Stay on the case SCC. You are doing
a "bang-up" job of ferreting-out
the truth and warning the people.
If they would only take heed.
part 2:
Quinn claims he needs a tax increase for education.
Something is very wrong with that
picture. The Illinois Lottery was
supposed to be for education.
Property taxes were supposed to
fund education. look at your tax
bill breakdown. The Board of
Education is at the very top taking
the biggest bite. The State contributes a little.
Where is the frigging money going ?
Especially with the Mayor closing
schools and firing teachers, and
some of the schools turning out
" defective products . "
And don't count on that so-called
re-call amendment to stop the fun
and games. The Springfield Combine
will find a work-around if and when
necessary to protect them and theirs. This has been going-on since Stratton was Governor and it
won't change soon because it seems
when the opportunity for change
presents itself in any form, the
voters opt for the same players and
the status quo. And then bi*ch about it.
What did the machine and Rahm give Dart to quit the race? Supt. Of Police of course!
FEMA friend says that Shanks told not to run for reelection because of the hundreds of millions he cost the Feds in the July floods. He apparently let homes flood so Midway and it's parking lots wouldn't. Was still trying to sell it, I guess.
Let's go. Get off your ass, John Kass.
you have 2 factions at war here. 1 that pays taxes and owns houses. 1 that has had its hand out since day one. you also have alot of lib koolaiders that will NEVER vote r. alot of stipid,lazy people that want government to do all the thinking. there s no reward for decent moral behavior. we are truely equal in their eyes.
To GR:
First up, define the lies supposedly told. There are none. WMD was found, Saddam had a full on program and was in violation of countless UN resolutions and international law. We know you probably wanted to hug him, ruffle his hair and tell him to stop his nonsense, but the fact is, the war was necessary, legal and approved by the elected leaders of the House and Senate.
Second, who has controlled the House and Senate for the past few years? Oh yeah, the dems. And the dems are the ones raising the taxes in the middle of a recession, not the republicans. In fact, the democrats wanted to extend the tax cuts before the election in a cynical ploy to buy more votes, then let them expire anyway. The fact remains that we personally keep more of our paychecks under republicans, not dems. If you're so eager to pay more in taxes, by all means mail in a contribution.
You certainly don't ascribe to any republican ethos we recognize with your nonsense, so your moniker is a blatant falsehood. We read your BS, but it so full of lies and untruths as to be borderline insanity.
Asshat.
Anonymous said...
I just received an e-mail that allegedly came from Mike Shields of the pension board. He claims that a house bill was put it, but does not appear to be going anywhere, this bill would include the CPD into pension reforms. He states everything is just rumor at this point, including taxing our pensions. There is a movement to raise the retirement age to 55 and increase contributions of the working coppers and to reduce widows benefits. However, Daley stated that he will go to Springfield after the election to introduce legislation for a two tier system.
11/07/2010 10:29:00 AM
rumor my ass
decrease in widows benefits.
4% tax on pension
this is the fault of all you fools who brag that you have voted dem all your life. That means all of you 19th ward sheep too.
I've known Pat Quinn for years. He's honest and sincere, a rarity among politicians. He's said all along hat he will raise taxes. If Brady won, he would raise taxes too. You can't just cut 10% out of every line item in the budget. That's not governing, it's just being a bookkeeper. We need money for our pensions. We need to fix our schools, and we're at the bottom rung of states in school funding. Pat will do a good job if Madigan and Cullerton let him.
Capt TL 023 caught a Iod abuser, TF, and turned him in. Good job, boss.
Re: Mandate? Hell, how about "fluke?"
Huffington, like any of us here/anyone else in the world, can say/imply that Cohen took votes away from Brady. Unless Cohen voters answer honestly in a poll, there's no real way of knowing who Cohen voters would alternately vote for. If Brady felt Cohen and/or Whitney were threats, he could have them removed from the ballot Madigan style.
Yes Pat winning 4 of 102 counties in the entire state is a very strong mandate!!
Early voting and absentee ballots did wonders for this guy. It's the best thing for Illinois politicians because it gives dead people a chance to vote again and again.
Election fraud occurs in "regular", early and absentee voting. "None" of us are present in the vote counting "smoke filled" rooms.
If an early voting site isn't open, I have the option of voting another day or choosing another location. On election day, I have less options.
0719
"It was downstate that screwed Illinois again. Cook county can't elect a Governor by itself, it was the unions and liberals that did this again."
Hey dipshit, look at the electoral map of who voted for Quinn. You might be surprised. 700,000 votes in Crook county for your man Pat. Don't be so quick to vote downstate as the root of all of your evil. Sometime it's hard to look in the mirror and see your own faults.
To 12:27 am- Polls are useless. They can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say. Have you ever been polled? I've lived here my entire life and never once has any pollster asked me a question about anything. Now, as far as the election being a mandate against Obama care. Of course it was. Dem's across the nation that supported it were swept out of office. That in itself should tell you how the vast majority of Americans feel about Obama care. And I have yet to meet ANYBODY that is in favor of Obama care. Except for liberal weasels that don't know their ass from the hole in the ground.
If the Watch Commander in 023 caught an IOD abuser, good for him. Don't expect any sympathy for someone like that here. If the P.O. gets fired or takes heavy time, they got what they deserved.
Hey, 7:19am, yes way. Brady won every single county in this state except for for, Crook County being one of them.
H.L. Menken, who was a famous newspaper writer in the early 20th Century once said "no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intellegence of the American people." Quinn's election proves this.
At least George Bush's TARP program made money for the government. B Rocks stimulus and bailouts have only lost money. I'd also like the same deal GM (government motors) just got, not having to pay taxes on my income. But That's just payback for unions that vote for the Dems. As for the tax issue. The real question is will they raise taxes. Remember it's the extention of the BUSH tax cuts. But somehow the Dems are going to say they cut taxes for the poor and middle class and call them Obama's, When the truth is they just won't raise them. Instead they will punish people for working and being successful by taxing them more but if the same people loose everything well the gov will just say that's to bad. Remember to work extra hard next year and earn more so B Rock and Pat Quinn can get more tax money to buy their constituents votes in the form of rising entitlements that never get cut.
Government does not have to make a profit much less even work efficiently. All it needs to do is spend your hard earned profit from your labor t keep it's power.
Whatever SCC. Looks like Quinn pulled a page from the republican post election playbook. For instance, polls show that Americans are almost perfectly split on healthcare or ''Obamacare'' yet republicans tout the results of the election as a repudiation of all of Obama's policies. Unfortunately Quinn won. He can say whatever the fuck he wants, no matter how insane. Just like the republicans. - Discouraged moderate.
11/07/2010 12:27:00 AM
Obamacare is not split down the middle. 49% and rising against 41% for it.
this year property taxes will rise because its based on your assessed valuation New law took affect and the assessed valuation is now 10% instead of 16% of the market value Check your first half bill and notice that your assessed valuation may be down or the same, but notice that your market value has sky rocketed
Also if you notice to keep everyone from being shocked by the 2nd half installment this year the firsat half was 55% of last years bill instead of the usual 50%
Its gonna get worst before it gets better. But quit bullshitting yourselves into thinking that the spending and deficit is the blame of one party.
11/07/2010 10:50:00 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Awww, so daddy was part of the machine, maybe a ghost payroller, and he beat that "d" into your brain, huh?
If you have a job, if you pay tax, and are not worth over 10 million dollars, you are nothing short of a complete idiot to support the democrat link card, free shit, dinner at school, raise everyone's kids agenda.
Yes, genius, you can eliminate the deficit with cuts alone. You absolutely can. Take a look at the numbers on entitlements and nonsense "education" (free food and babysitting program) spending before you expose yourself for the ignorant Cook County machine scum that you are.
Anonymous said...
The people of Illinois just screwed themselves once again.
Can you asshole Quinn supporters pay for my tax increases? After all, you voted for this moron!
11/07/2010 12:09:00 AM
It was not the people of Illinois. It was the Democratic zombies from Chicago that put him in. Add two counties of non-taxpayers downstate and there you have it.
The tax increase for education? This state has the most mismanaged education system in the country. If we don't already spend more per student than any other state, then we are at least near the top. Fix it before you raise more taxes to throw down that hole.
11/07/2010 09:09:00 AM
I am sure that not one penny will go to the schools.
What is the dollar figure per student spending that will ensure that each and everyone kid will be the next Stephen Hawkin?? F this inch by inch non sense. Lets get these kids learning.......if it is possible.........
My cousin is ISP; Quinn is a BIG, HUGE fan of the police...that's all that matters to us.
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Actually my property tax bill dropped,just as most of your will.
You can call the county assessor to get your amount due or wait till this Wednesday (Nov 10th) when the bills are mailed.
Sorry, but the assessor only places a value on your house. The treasurer's office gets the numbers from the various taxing bodies and produces the bill which uses the assessed valuation given by the assessor. If the tax rate for a taxing body goes up, that portion of your bill increases and vice versa. If the number you got from the aseesor went down then they reassesed your property and valued it lower. That should help your tax bill, all things being equal.
OT--
Careful out there tonight. Jeez, you'd think it was a full moon. Friday and Saturday nights too, real herky-jerky driving all over. Like people are expecting something big any minute, but don't know what it is. Didn't cool off much tonight, either.
I operate the Official Something In The Air Meter, and send out these alerts when the needle goes over a certain point...it's all factored in with size of new graffiti, volume of car stereos, broken glass per square yard of sidewalk, etc. All the P.A.U. has is a stapler, not much of a scientific instrument if you ask me.
Watch chicagobreakingnews, etc. for the doleful tallies; SCC needs a permanent shooting/homicide tote board running in the upper right-hand corner...
The "Cohen Experiment" didn't fly. He was supposed to take votes from Quinn...and probably did. Not enough, though.
Brady's a certifiable psycho. Quinn also sucks, but we're stuck with the smaller of 2 turds.
"How the heck does Ghoulianias get defeated an Quinn elected?????????"
--11/07/2010 06:31:00 AM
Scott Lee Cohen; he took about 50,000 "protest votes" away from Brady in Cook County, and that was enough to throw a really tight race.
It's called being a "spoiler."
He won only due to widespread fraud in the inner city ghetto. These democrats are delusional. Go ahead quiff, raise taxes. Even the libtard reps in cook county won't be able to keep you from being recalled. Motherfucker. Reality is a bitch, just ask the Barry.
"FEMA friend says that Shanks told not to run for reelection because of the hundreds of millions he cost the Feds in the July floods. He apparently let homes flood so Midway and it's parking lots wouldn't. Was still trying to sell it, I guess."
--11/07/2010 02:18:00 PM
As bad as Daley's "sewer diverters" that flooded Norwood/Edison Park so badly back in August 2001. There are probably still people just west of St. Adalbert's running dehumidifiers down in the basement from that one...
This time around -- uh -- isn't there some $8,000,000,000,000 project 'way down there called the Deep Tunnel that was supposed to handle all that water?
We better hire Wackenhuts to watch Daley day and night until he's gone, to make sure he's not demolishing or selling anything else off at the last minute -- ceremonial functions only allowed.
"Brady would have had to have won by more than 50,000 votes to have had a chance at winning."
--11/07/2010 07:55:00 AM
Precisely.
Scott Lee Cohen took those 50,000 protest votes away from Brady in Cook County.
It's called being a "spoiler."
Check the myriad predictions of this (and confirmations of it) in the news stories available on the web...
"In a nation once populated by a majority of 'little red hens', working diligently to 'bake the bread', it's ironic that we, the working people, have allowed the 'not I!' sloths of society to determine the outcomes of our representative government elections.
"How much longer will the honest, working majority of Americans tolerate this gross misuse/abuse of our inherent sense of Christian charity?"
--11/07/2010 12:51:00 PM
The problem is called "pathological altruism." Altruism -- sacrificing to help one's neighbor -- developed as intraracial cooperation to help maintain a strong and self-supporting group. Altruism becomes maladaptive and destructive when applied to interracial relations between groups competing for limited resources.
Look up John Murray Cuddihy and Kevin MacDonald; they lay it down much better than I can in my brief paraphrasis.
I love the "Little Red Hen" analogy; hadn't thought of it in years. I know a Little Red Hen-gone-crazy, who demonstrates pathological altruism in microcosm; she has Borderline Personality Disorder -- neurosis with a psychotic intensity -- wich makes her like Edith Bunker on speeders, running around in circles fretting and shredding her handkerchief and literally working herself into the hospital giving away money and providing food and all sorts of other services to scum who she hardly knows.
We just had to step in and stop a penitentiary inmate from viciously exploiting this old woman, demanding that more and more packages of luxuries be sent to the prison. The lady's phone number is now blocked, electronically cut off, and the inmate is in seg where she belongs.
"Giving" can be a mental illness when it goes past a certain point...
thank you Captain in 23
fire the medical roll abusers
To the genious who posted "It is impossible to fix a 15billiion dollar deficit with just spending cuts alone" The deficit is the fault of those politicians whose policies created it. Raising income tax will REDUCE State revenue because less people will be employed to pay it. History has demonstrated it, but socialist minded Democrats raise tax in the name of "fairness" anyway. Quinn will drive the State further into the ground.
to, SCC thanks for bringing back Asshat been gone too long.
If Quinn is elected, he wantes to add a 4% income tax to our pension. Currently Illinois does not tax our pensions,.. we have zero.
They want to reduce cost of living to 1/2 of the CPI and reduce the surviving spouse benefits for all current and all future retirees
11/06/2010 12:25:00 AM
That is more than the current state income tax. Where do you get your bad info from??
Pfft! Quinn and a majority of the middle and upper management for the state of Illinois are morons...One state agency (that's partially federally funded) has been working on an updated computer system that's about 7 years and easily over 100 Million dollars OVER budget. Even though Quinn was briefed that the system wasn't ready...and the money that we (the state) have wasted on 'consultants' and clout spots is borderline criminal.
You dont have to post this, just letting you know that CPD and the City arent the only ones Fucked by the top guys...oh the stories i could tell....
Stay Safe
Civil.Servant.ORD
"Giving" can be a mental illness when it goes past a certain point...
11/07/2010 06:49:00 PM"
So is voting against your own self-interests which happens time & time again.
"The entire country needs a national voter ID that is either fingerprint identifiable or biometrically identifiable. That is the only way the American people will be able to take back its country from the commie/socialists.
11/07/2010 07:55:00 AM"
That same rationale could explain Kirk being elected into office as well. There isnt voter fraud in DuPage,Lake, Will & Kendall Counties?
Oh I see if the Republican Candidate is elected it's the mandate of the electorate. If it's the Dem it's fraudulent. That logic is priceless, ignorant @ it's very core but priceless
" If the number you got from the aseesor went down then they reassesed your property and valued it lower. That should help your tax bill, all things being equal.
11/07/2010 06:01:00 PM"
not exactly, as the initial portion of your comments explained.
as you stated, the total requested amount of tax revenues determines, via some mildly complicated calculations, the tax rate multiplier applied to the individual property owner's property's assessed equalized value, the result of which is the actual dollar amount of the tax bill received.
in any given tax year, if the multiplier is to remain the same, the total amount of requested tax revenue must remain the same and the assessed equalized values of all real property must, in total, remain the same.
for a given percentage of property owners to receive a property tax bill significantly less, without the tax multiplier increasing, not only must their property's equalized assessed value have decreased, but, an adequate percentage of other property owner's property's equalized assessed value must have increased, thus increasing those other property owner's tax bill amounts.
this is one of the inherent elements of our property tax system's basis, using the assessed 'fair market value' of real property, which places the burden of taxation in greater proportion upon those whose efforts increase the value of the results of their labors, and reduces the burden of taxation upon those whose efforts, or lack thereof, result in a decrease of the value of their labor, or lack thereof.
the 'little red hen' is rolling over in her grave.
"What is the dollar figure per student spending that will ensure that each and everyone kid will be the next Stephen Hawkin?? F this inch by inch non sense. Lets get these kids learning.......if it is possible.........
11/07/2010 05:53:00 PM"
the solution is obvious:
total voucher system of financing the tax subsidization of public education.
for purposes of tuition, each and every school stands alone.
a set amount voucher, initially based on grade level, is applied to the school of each parent's choice, with each individual school's actual cost of operation determining each individual school's actual total tuition amount.
any shortfall difference between the voucher amount and the chosen school's actual tuition amount is the parent's responsibility, not the taxpayer's.
assuming a given school wants full enrollment, that school will have to compete with all other school's, thus allowing the free market forces of competition to determine the price point.
the elimination of government interference in the free market of education will produce the best educational outcomes for the students and, thus, for our society.
Lottery Money
HOW IS IT BEING USED???
HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY!
Instead of "complaining" about Cohen "taking" away votes from Quinn, why not "yell" at the non-voters who didn't vote for any candidate.
I supported Rich Whitney, because I am tired of both major parties' (really one major party's) lies and tricks.
Hey, I was never for Quinn! I have nothing of my tax base (property, et cetera)that I have used that would make me whole!
As I see it, the part that goes to the city, okay fine. We all know that that is a load of crap! I can not tell you all the coppers that I know who don't feel: if it is not free, it's not for me.
I make good money. I get nothing for free. But everyone bitches about that, or their pension. Please, most of the people that hold the the positions, of cops, should feel lucky that they have them. If they wanted to find a position in the real world, they would be lucky to get an interview!
Although, I am sure thst no one is willing to admit that.
Keep doing the job that you're doing, everyone appreciates it. GFY!
Disagree: tjmttugrn@hotmail.com
F'in COOKIE THE CLOWN running this welfare state.
Wins 3 counties. Brady wins all the rest and Cookie the F'in CLown is elected.
Question of the day! What were the demographics of the 3 counties he won?
Time to start the electoral college within states to assure this nonsense doesnt happen.
To all you moronic non leeching taxpayers that voted for Cookie, LORD FORGIVE THEM FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY'VE DONE...
Capt TL 023 caught a Iod abuser, TF, and turned him in. Good job, boss.
11/07/2010 03:26:00 PM
Ok Tom, enough...Are you running for something????? Your'e still a goof.
I'm sick of the democrats raising taxes and taking more of my money. I'm sick of working my ass off trying to get ahead and having them take my money and give it to lazy assholes who wake up at noon, smoke a joint, drink a beer and go use the state credit card they're given to go buy whatever they want. We pay for that and I'm sick and tired of it. Stop giving all these handouts to people who abuse the system.
To the guy that said Quinn is a huge supporter of the Police. Did you ask the ISP if they feel that way? I doubt that most of them will agree with you.
Anonymous said...
thank you Captain in 23
fire the medical roll abusers
11/07/2010 06:55:00 PM
1290 has been IOD for "bumping her elbow" for 4 weeks - gets another furlough too -
told the P.O. how to write it up so it would be IOD
WAY TO GO BOSS!!! LEAD BY EXAMPLE!!!
Capt TL 023 caught a Iod abuser, TF, and turned him in. Good job, boss.
11/07/2010 03:26:00 PM
Ok Tom, enough...Are you running for something????? Your'e still a goof.
11/08/2010 03:59:00 AM
I disagree. These Medical Roll abusers are killing it for the rest of us that are legit. Hats off yo you Captain. Thanks for doing your job.
What kind of a goof would take the side of the abuser?
Watch he wont raise the income tax he will just begin to tax pensions for the cash. He will then try and portray us as fat cats collecting a pension that is over inflated. He is a jag off...
Oh I see if the Republican Candidate is elected it's the mandate of the electorate. If it's the Dem it's fraudulent. That logic is priceless, ignorant @ it's very core but priceless
11/07/2010 09:59:00 PM
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Actually that's absolutely correct. Corrupt "progressive" organizations such as Acorn, La Raza, America Coming Together,
Americans For Democratic Action,
Center for Voting and Democracy,
Election Defense Alliance, League of Conservation Voters, Progressive Democrats of America, Rock the Vote, Verified Voting and many others are highly vested in the ends justifies the means agenda of getting leftist progressives elected and using vote fraud to do so.
If you can't see that you are just another typical lying democrat that denies reality.
The right doesn't engage in any large scale vote fraud like the above entities and unions do, I'm beginning to wish they would.
"Instead of "complaining" about Cohen "taking" away votes from Quinn, why not "yell" at the non-voters who didn't vote for any candidate."
--11/07/2010 11:51:00 PM
Complete failure to communicate; no matter how many times it passes in front of them, they can't see it.
One more time --
Scott Lee Cohen took about 50,000 "protest" votes from Brady in Cook County. This was enough to throw a very close race, resulting in Quinn's victory.
"I supported Rich Whitney..."
Who?
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"Disagree: tjmttugrn@hotmail.com"
--11/08/2010 12:06:00 AM
Your post is sufficiently incoherent that it inspires neither agreement or disagreement.
Text: xo4354869 for today's soybean prices on the Chicago exchange...
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Capt TL 023 caught a Iod abuser, TF, and turned him in. Good job, boss.
11/07/2010 03:26:00 PM
Always with the Blue Shirts!! how about the white shirt in 18. Sgt finally returned to work after 360 days days on the medical. Oh wait, we have to give her credit, she was going to come back sooner. But when she heard the Captain dumped her off her long held post, she hit the medical hit again. Sledding accident with her kid (ouch my aching back wink wink)
Anonymous said...
To the genious who posted "It is impossible to fix a 15billiion dollar deficit with just spending cuts alone" The deficit is the fault of those politicians whose policies created it. Raising income tax will REDUCE State revenue because less people will be employed to pay it. History has demonstrated it, but socialist minded Democrats raise tax in the name of "fairness" anyway. Quinn will drive the State further into the ground.
11/07/2010 07:03:00 PM
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It is too bad that this not true. If it were there would be no purpose in having any taxes.
guess what I received today in the mail---a campaign add for Bill Brady sent out from the RNC--Its a little late--you think our democratic post office intentional held back these flyers--RNC you should look into this--I wouldn't be surprised in this city
the 'good' people of Illinois who continuously vote for these scumbags are true assh*les
These Dems must be smokin" something!! Taxes, Taxes and more taxes!! Is that all they have for solutions??! Come on! One day they should get more creative. Instead of re-working their pensions....by the way, we pay for them....why can't they convert them into 401k's just like in the private sector? Let these state workers see and then understand what we go through with our "pensions". 1% is a chunk o' change. In fact..why doesn't the people that voted for him, pay for those taxes that they "feel" that is needed to fill the budget gap (their pensions)? Why, because then maybe they would "feel" that they were grabbin' their ankles!!
Forget throwing any more money at the schools, in fact, I want all my money back from them, they are doing a piss poor job of educating our youth.... another part of the plan by the leftists, because the only way a democracy can succeed is with an EDUCATED POPULACE, and we sure don't have any of that... and aren't gonna get any from our publicly funded schools.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
thank you Captain in 23
fire the medical roll abusers
11/07/2010 06:55:00 PM
1290 has been IOD for "bumping her elbow" for 4 weeks - gets another furlough too -
told the P.O. how to write it up so it would be IOD
WAY TO GO BOSS!!! LEAD BY EXAMPLE!!!
11/08/2010 07:40:00 AM
Bumping her elbow? Hmmm. I never used that one. Good for four weeks you say? Sounds good.
That same rationale could explain Kirk being elected into office as well. There isnt voter fraud in DuPage,Lake, Will & Kendall Counties?
Oh I see if the Republican Candidate is elected it's the mandate of the electorate. If it's the Dem it's fraudulent. That logic is priceless, ignorant @ it's very core but priceless
11/07/2010 09:59:00 PM
Sure there probably is some vote fraud everywhere, but nothing like here in Chicago and Crook Country committed by the Democratic machine. You want to know what is going to be priceless, the expression on your face when your million dollar condo is being looted and set on fire by the rioters after this state is bankrupted by the corruption of the Democratic Party and chaos prevails when those welfare checks stop and link cards don’t work.
What will your logic tell you then you stupid bastard.
Who?...
Who is Bill Brady? What do you have against independent candidates (i.e. Whitney and/or Cohen)?
It's about time to dump all Democrats and all Republicans!
PS I read about the so called Cohen "stealing Brady's protest votes". Unless an honest Cohen voters' (and that's a big if) poll occurs, there is NO way of knowing those voters' alternate choices.
On the parts of the northwest side I frequent, I saw very little outward Brady support (i.e. signs, literature). Even some northwest Republican Committeemen were surprised that I contacted them about Brady.
its simple...the dems take money from people that work...and give it to people that dont work.
WTF Mandate? Surcharge?
I got your freakin mandate
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