Crime Down Again?
Amazing. You'd think there wasn't any crime left at all after 22 straight months of reductions:
- Chicago police officials reported that October crime statistics continued a drop in violent and property crime for the 22nd consecutive month.
Total crime dropped by 3.7 percent compared to the same time last year while property crime dropped by 2 percent and violent crimes dropped by 9.8 percent, police said.
The only reported increase was in motor vehicle thefts which were up by 22.7 percent compared to last year's figures.
Lies, damn lies and statistics. J-fled is making a major play for a contract extension,
Labels: stats
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
79 Comments:
Did you see that sweater he was wearing!!!
YOU EGVER NOTICE THE NEVER REALLY GIVE THE NUMBER OUT?
JUST A COUPLE AND THATS IT.
ITS NOT LIKE THE NEWSPAPER HAS ANY REAL INSIGHT.
HEY SCUM-TIME TRY PUTTING ALL THE STATS UP AND USE LAST YEARS STATS TO COMPARE. WHY WOULD U COMPARE STATS FROM 2 YEARS AGO?
AND THOSE UNIT HAVE ALL ZEROS!!!
SEND THEM BACK 2 THE BEAT IF THEY HAVE ALL ZEROS. THEY FORGOT TO ADD THE BEAT OFFICER ARREST IN THE STATS!!!
Crime might be down here, but in comparison to New York City and Los Angeles we still have a long way to go.
Lies, lies, lies. Can't these bastards tell the truth ONCE IN A WHILE?
Just because you kill crime and make Murders "Death Investigations" doesn't mean it's getting better.
So far this year 14 districts have more homicides or shootings than last year. i've also noticed a significant rise in shootings/homicides in 16, 20, 23, 24.
Violent crime is UP in the 018th District. In fact it has the greatest increase citywide since last year. Just check it on the CPD Clear page. Since Dugan was dumped because of increased crime, can you please send Commander KA to the airport to take his place. Or at least send him to OCD where thay aren't subjected to crime increases. This guy is unable or incapable of managing this District. Put him on the 35th St punishment car. What a joke.
The Cubs are more likely to win the world series than old Jody getting a contract extension.
As for "killing crime" I suggest listening to this story out of the NYPD. It's about 20 minutes into the piece.
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/414/right-to-remain-silent
Officer Schoolcraft got some fairly high up NYPD bosses on tape acting like idiots. Hell, one such boss even had a "departmental trial" for steroid use.
Of course he was placed into a mental ward for doing so. I hope he enjoys the check the citizens of NYC are going to be cutting him.
Snicker.
Didn't one of the newspapers do a story in the 80's about CPD brass manipulating crime numbers? Maybe someone has a better memory than me.
There have been a rash of robberies lately in 018/019/023. If you're out with the wife or girlfriend be cautious of your surroundings. Don't be a victim-be prepared. Just some info to share.
Jody isn't leaving. Rahm already said he was keeping him. Plus you can't argue with his tenure. Crime is down and no major scandals. We know better but everyone else belives the bull shit.
FIGURES LIE AND LIARS FIGURE!
JFled isn't making a play for a contract extension; he's making a play for something in the national arena. He's beginning to believe his own press. (Odd, since he's the one >generating< his own press. Every Sunday morning, without fail, yet another press conference.)
Wow, pretty soon we will be into negative crime! I love this town.
O.T. - a state income tax increase is critical, considering the funding of our pensions are in such dire states. Love, or hate Madigan and Cullerton, they are the only game in town!
Do I get another atta-boy ribbon for my blouse?
009 midnights
Crime is down because citizens will not wait for the police. Callback takes hours, if not days. Residents go to the station and get tired of waiting in the long line. They have to report auto thefts for insurance purposes. That is the number which is reflective of all crime. The agg batts with a firearm is being played with. There is no way they are down.
Someone has a pretty sharp pencil!
How about assaults on police officers? What are those numbers?
Crime has gone down? Doesn't mean anything to me because you can't walk down most of the streets in Chicago anymore. It's not safe. So I give a shit about statistics. Fuck you Weis, you helped ruin the City I grew up in.
---not a cop
Anonymous said...
Crime is down because citizens will not wait for the police. Callback takes hours, if not days. Residents go to the station and get tired of waiting in the long line. They have to report auto thefts for insurance purposes. That is the number which is reflective of all crime. The agg batts with a firearm is being played with. There is no way they are down.
11/08/2010 06:19:00 AM
Agreed 100% with this analysis plus I would like to add that huge numbers are fleeing the city from the ghettos to the suburbs after their houses are foreclosed upon. The cost of living is cheaper. Look at the number of board-ups on each block in the crap neighborhoods.
Soon the city will be doing without all desk sgt.
Violent crime is UP in the 018th District. In fact it has the greatest increase citywide since last year. Just check it on the CPD Clear page. Since Dugan was dumped because of increased crime, can you please send Commander KA to the airport to take his place. Or at least send him to OCD where thay aren't subjected to crime increases. This guy is unable or incapable of managing this District. Put him on the 35th St punishment car. What a joke.
And please put his buddy Steve Georgas with him in the car !!!! LOL
Crime is down? Well I guess they don't have to hire more cops then.
Statistics don't lie and liars use statistics.
Reported crime is down nationally, why should Chicago be any different? It's not because of Weis, although the tried and true use of large numbers of police officers to target violent street crime has been expanded by him. Just remember, he didn't invent the concept. And neither did the mush Roussel.
And remember, when crime was up we had 13500, now crime is down, we should have less, IF, and only IF, we size a police force by crime.
People don't realize that they are not comparing the stats for the year to date...Jan-Nov. They only compare from a certain time frame...Nov 2008, Nov 2009, Nov 2010. That way they can say compared to this time last year (the month of Nov) crime is down.
Superintendent Weis will be given a short extension , let's see if another Supt . could reduce crime.
CPD is using the office police to fight crime and the truth is CPD doesn't need any more officers.
All they have to do is streamline
assign office police to street duty , assign captains to an area and field lts to a zone , now we're talking of saving millions in yearly budget and future pension.
Did you see that sweater he was wearing!!!
++++++++++++++++++++
Yea, I saw it on some jerkoff in the box seats at a Bulls game in 1993.
With the FOIA rules you would think the media would look into these claims. If they aren't sure how, here are some hints:
- many pick pocket and theft from person reports are downgraded to lost and found. Lost and found reports should be up this year.
- persons shot in robberies are not being "counted" for the media when CPD reports Agg Batt w/firearm; also the number of incidents is reports, not the number of victims.
- strong arm robberies are being reported as thefts as long as no one was "visually injured".
- Attempt burglary reported as damage to property.
Shit...I'm tired of typing. Do your job paperboys and girls. Crime really isn't as "down" as they say it is. Ask Pam Zekman, she'll explain it to you.
06:27
No someone has a big eraser.
It'll be non-existent, once the City Council bans Sulfuric Acid. Next, matches, duct tape, rope, WD-40. Thank you Democrats.
When the citizen wants a report, ALWAYS give them the report.
It only helps those who want to diminish our numbers and outsource our jobs when we talk the victim out of wanting a report.
Making reports is your job AND job security.
Crime isnt being killed, its on life support!
Shooting with nobody bleeding to death= Simple battery
Hitting someone in the head with hammer- but no hospital involved= simple battery
Cutting your boyfriend up, but he as victim refuses to cooperate= Domestic battery simple
Shooting someone, they die but no witnesses around= Death Investigation (until next year, when they can classify it as a homicide AFTER they give the ultra-low numbers for this year)
Stealing car with keys= criminal trespass to vehicle
Breaking inside house, stacking up merchandise, but flee befor police arrive= criminal trespass to residence.
If crime is so far down, why are the CALLS FOR SERVICE on the rise????
Figures can lie and liars can figure! Who is driving jfled around now, just waiting to be promoted? jfled is an ass! Never forget Cozzi! Give em what they want.
To the dope who can't wait to pay more taxes: rest assured, not one penny will go to your pension, school, or road. The thieves will steal it all and then request a another tax hike. Don't you get it? Money that is not in your possession, is not yours.
O.T. - a state income tax increase is critical, considering the funding of our pensions are in such dire states. Love, or hate Madigan and Cullerton, they are the only game in town!
You just don't get it. Reduce spending first. Reduce the welfare give aways. Put limits on the time you can recieve welfare to 5 years. Cut a lot of the give away programs. Take care of seniors and truly mentally handicapped. But all these bums that get checks then get high and watch tv all day, need a wake up call. If you increase taxes, then increase spending, you haven't moved an inch. They'll be asking for another increase the next year.
OFF TOPIC
From Chicago Breaking News:
"The Daily Herald reports: Prospect Heights has laid off six of its 21 police officers..."
As bad as things have become on our Department, it could always be worse. Sincere best wishes to those six-----if anyone has info on benefit, etc please post.
Does this mean another ribbon? Sweet!
001 3rd Watch Lt. S.
Try and report a crinme nowdays, its impossible.
My neighbor tried, callback was useless, after waiting 2 days he went to the station. Only one desk officer, 10 to 15 taxpayers waiting in a hour plus line.
Y And yes, I did pull a number for him and do the paper.
This is one of the ways Jody is killing crime
Chicago police officer threatened at his home.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/2874118,CST-NWS-stalker08.article
This should have been handled differently.
The most efficient crime reducer in this city is the wrecking ball, most of the projects are down, and the 2nd,3rd and 11th Districts are rubble and the rats have fled to the burbs, but do visit to distribute their dope and mayhem. If it were not for that we'd be over run with the current man power. That myopic, cross eyed, pimple head that calls himself is a fraud. He did the FEEBS a favor when he left, now how about CPD. Just leave and take most of your exempts with you.
Fools! Those of you who voted for Quinn, now watch. Pensions taxed at 4%. You wanted change and yet you vote for the same bums who srewed you in the first place. Dumb.
That sweater is a crime. Where'd he get it, The Mister Shop?
Sub-compact pistols - .380/9mm that fit in the pocket... are flying off of the shelves in gun shops. What does that tell you ?
Paper Shuffln' at its finest I see. Their are people dropping like flies everyday being shot and killed, what the hell is the department talking about. After the city gets done playing around making burglaries into thefts and making agg batteries into assaults and classifying homicides behind closed doors into a different catagory maybe those crimes are down a little bit, who knows. I can see crime being down when it comes to officers making arrests which would document that crime as say a PCS or A Poss Of Cannabis or a DOPW or Poss Ammo, etc. We see the crime out there which is out of control. We're in a backlog everyday so don't drink the koolade.
A state income tax is not critical. He said it was for education and we know how much money has helped the CPS so it will not be used to help our pension, but only to advance social programs and spend and waste more
Anonymous said...
Jody isn't leaving. Rahm already said he was keeping him. Plus you can't argue with his tenure. Crime is down and no major scandals. We know better but everyone else belives the bull shit.
11/08/2010 01:05:00 AM
I'm no Rahm cheerleader but he never said Jody was staying. In fact in the interview I saw, he alluded to the exact opposite. Dart will most likely be rewarded with the spot for bowing out...... Although E.B. has been suckin' a lot of d*cks lately.
ALLRIGHT so when do we get our 2010 crime reduction ribbon?
oh god, please don't even broach the subject of any kind of contract extension for possum head--- chicago may not survive 2011...
Check out the list of present and former CPD on the staff at Calumet College:
http://www.ccsj.edu/academics/accelerated/psm/index.html
PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT ACCELERATED PROGRAM
Program Director: Dean Angelo, Ed.D.
Faculty: Dean Angelo, Ed.D.; Eloise Carnevale, Ed.D.; Anthony Carothers, M.S.; John Chojnacki, M.S.; Thomas Cline, M.B.A.; John Cory, Jr., M.S.; Delores Deloughery, M.S. John Dowd, M.S.; Charles Dulay, M.A.; Michelle Engstrom, Ed.D.; Jeffrey Harkin, J.D.; Ernest Hernandez, M.S.; Robert Johnson, M.A.; Joseph Kovach, Psy.D.; Steven Kovacik, III, M.S.; Michael McCafferty, J.D.; Daniel McGuire, Ed.D.; Thomas McMahon, M.S.; Jill Miller, Psy.D.; James Pastor, Ph.D., J.D.; David J. Plebanski, Ph.D.; Leslie Rittenmeyer, Psy.D.; George Rosebrock, M.S.; Ronald Rufo, Ed.D.;James Rybolt, M.S.; Steven Scheckel, M.S.; Raymond Schweitzer, M.P.A.; Linda Trausch, J.D.; Richard Wedgbury, M.S.
This would not be one of my first choices for a degree with these people as instructors!
Just a COWARD hiding behind lie after lie.
Dear MSF warrior:
Was attempting to get $5 of food for free, while offduty, at mickey D’s worth your job?
Dumb
Dumb
Dumb
Off topic: Weis has been asked by Shortshanks to remain at the helm until May, to which he has agreed.
FYI.
What is the real reason why so many coppers were declined by MSF? Rumor was that IAD and IPRA stopped 24% from coming over. Another is if you had any open or pending cr numbers you couldn't. Another was some top brass cried about their boys not making it, so they stopped other qualified picks. What is the real answer for those of us who got turned down?
-po in 009
Get ready to put a star on that crime redction award.
Nice to see that there is still the double standard for discipline. And just a warning if you lock up a Captains brother its ok for the Captain to send someone to threaten you to drop the case or else. Captains actions are reported and guess what hes still working. Way to go J Fled. Read about it in todays Times.
PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT ACCELERATED PROGRAM
Program Director: Dean Angelo, Ed.D.
Faculty: Dean Angelo, Ed.D.; Eloise Carnevale, Ed.D.; Anthony Carothers, M.S.; John Chojnacki, M.S.; Thomas Cline, M.B.A.; John Cory, Jr., M.S.; Delores Deloughery, M.S. John Dowd, M.S.; Charles Dulay, M.A.; Michelle Engstrom, Ed.D.; Jeffrey Harkin, J.D.; Ernest Hernandez, M.S.; Robert Johnson, M.A.; Joseph Kovach, Psy.D.; Steven Kovacik, III, M.S.; Michael McCafferty, J.D.; Daniel McGuire, Ed.D.; Thomas McMahon, M.S.; Jill Miller, Psy.D.; James Pastor, Ph.D., J.D.; David J. Plebanski, Ph.D.; Leslie Rittenmeyer, Psy.D.; George Rosebrock, M.S.; Ronald Rufo, Ed.D.;James Rybolt, M.S.; Steven Scheckel, M.S.; Raymond Schweitzer, M.P.A.; Linda Trausch, J.D.; Richard Wedgbury, M.S.
This would not be one of my first choices for a degree with these people as instructors!
Ok lets play name the Merit.
Carothers, Engstrom, Hernandez, Mcguire. Feel free to add your own.
So someone that couldnt pass a promotional exam is a college professor? Only in Shitcago.
Jody isn't leaving. Rahm already said he was keeping him. Plus you can't argue with his tenure. Crime is down and no major scandals. We know better but everyone else belives the bull shit.
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Are you fucking serious? Give me a break. Crime is up and the shit tell hasn't hit the fan. Wait until all the tax payers learn that they will lose police because the shit heads are out of control. Fuck this place
What's the word about out 10hour day in 005/020th districts? I believe they know already and are just keeping it on the hush until moves are made.
We get another crime reduction ribbon LOL!
I still haven't got my 2008 election deployment ribbon LOL.
now we're talking of saving millions in yearly budget and future pension.
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You are incredibly stupid... the less people working, the less $ into the pension...
keep lowering the number of those paying into the pension and it will go broke even faster...
Also, LTS and CAPT are putting into the pension at their rate of pay the same % as everyone else. They are NOT part of the gold braid pension...
Part of this Income Tax increase will include taxing your pension. Right now your pension is not taxed.
hey press dudes:
look at 911 calls for police service
compare them (crimes going down?)
was Rd# issued? for what? did it match the call?
a burglary in progress or attempting to break into your house when you are not home should not become a simple damage to property or criminal trespass simply because the offender fled the scene before police arrived.
it skews the reality of crime reporting.
In my opinion it is false reporting or lying to the citizens.
J-fled to count some beans
did bill cosby report any stolen sweaters from wardrobe?
Listen...ya can make number look anyway ya wanna make them look like.....Hell, I can make 69 into 96, just like that!! Is robbery a crime? Is burglary a crime? well, if they aren't shootin' then they must be doin' somthin' else in my neighborhood. Must be management making these numbers up...LOL
Anonymous said...
Sub-compact pistols - .380/9mm that fit in the pocket... are flying off of the shelves in gun shops. What does that tell you ?
11/08/2010 11:08:00 AM
They must have gotten their wings.
H.R. PuffnStuff said...
It'll be non-existent, once the City Council bans Sulfuric Acid. Next, matches, duct tape, rope, WD-40. Thank you Democrats.
11/08/2010 08:38:00 AM
Why don't they ban crime instead?
You just don't get it. Reduce spending first. Reduce the welfare give aways. Put limits on the time you can receive welfare to 5 years. Cut a lot of the give away programs. Take care of seniors and truly mentally handicapped. But all these bums that get checks then get high and watch tv all day, need a wake up call.
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Maybe this will help you feel better!
"Society is setup for the weak not to fail, its not setup for the strong to prosper"
Earl Nightingale Circa 1951
Now somebody tell the 38 of us waiting to be hired by CPD when our class starts, 01 Nov is long and gone.......................
Soon the city will be doing without all desk sgts.
11/08/2010 07:43:00 AM
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The department was doing a study in 017 in regards to getting rid of the desk sergeant postion.
The question is will they still pay someone out of grade to to the work? The officer who holds the keys to the safe .. will he get the D -3 pay?
They could always relocate the safe to the watch commanders office. When you think about it; the sergeant really does not approve the arrest report he only "clerks" it. Any P.O. could do this and the city may attempt to NOT pay D-3 pay.
Has anyone heard any news on this???
Program Director was a major cry baby and professional medical roll abuser while on the job. Beefed about everything and when it didn't go his way he hit the medical with a bad back or knee.Now he's the little big man on campus.Several other strokes on the list also.
Anonymous said...
Check out the list of present and former CPD on the staff at Calumet College:
http://www.ccsj.edu/academics/accelerated/psm/index.html
PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT ACCELERATED PROGRAM
Program Director: Dean Angelo, Ed.D.
Faculty: Dean Angelo, Ed.D.; Eloise Carnevale, Ed.D.; Anthony Carothers, M.S.; John Chojnacki, M.S.; Thomas Cline, M.B.A.; John Cory, Jr., M.S.; Delores Deloughery, M.S. John Dowd, M.S.; Charles Dulay, M.A.; Michelle Engstrom, Ed.D.; Jeffrey Harkin, J.D.; Ernest Hernandez, M.S.; Robert Johnson, M.A.; Joseph Kovach, Psy.D.; Steven Kovacik, III, M.S.; Michael McCafferty, J.D.; Daniel McGuire, Ed.D.; Thomas McMahon, M.S.; Jill Miller, Psy.D.; James Pastor, Ph.D., J.D.; David J. Plebanski, Ph.D.; Leslie Rittenmeyer, Psy.D.; George Rosebrock, M.S.; Ronald Rufo, Ed.D.;James Rybolt, M.S.; Steven Scheckel, M.S.; Raymond Schweitzer, M.P.A.; Linda Trausch, J.D.; Richard Wedgbury, M.S.
This would not be one of my first choices for a degree with these people as instructors!
11/08/2010 12:55:00 PM
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Yale this ain't.
What is the real reason why so many coppers were declined by MSF? Rumor was that IAD and IPRA stopped 24% from coming over. Another is if you had any open or pending cr numbers you couldn't. Another was some top brass cried about their boys not making it, so they stopped other qualified picks. What is the real answer for those of us who got turned down?
-po in 009
11/08/2010 02:10:00 PM
because they couldn't take all 300 people
terrorist dry run on da blueline?????
Yeah, yeah! And assign sergeants to just stay in the station and not keep bothering the self-motivated, activity generating, arrest making police officers. Puh-leeze...Less supervision? You're out of your frickin' mind.
PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT ACCELERATED PROGRAM
Program Director: Dean Angelo, Ed.D.
Faculty: Dean Angelo, Ed.D.; Eloise Carnevale, Ed.D.; Anthony Carothers, M.S.; John Chojnacki, M.S.; Thomas Cline, M.B.A.; John Cory, Jr., M.S.; Delores Deloughery, M.S. John Dowd, M.S.; Charles Dulay, M.A.; Michelle Engstrom, Ed.D.; Jeffrey Harkin, J.D.; Ernest Hernandez, M.S.; Robert Johnson, M.A.; Joseph Kovach, Psy.D.; Steven Kovacik, III, M.S.; Michael McCafferty, J.D.; Daniel McGuire, Ed.D.; Thomas McMahon, M.S.; Jill Miller, Psy.D.; James Pastor, Ph.D., J.D.; David J. Plebanski, Ph.D.; Leslie Rittenmeyer, Psy.D.; George Rosebrock, M.S.; Ronald Rufo, Ed.D.;James Rybolt, M.S.; Steven Scheckel, M.S.; Raymond Schweitzer, M.P.A.; Linda Trausch, J.D.; Richard Wedgbury, M.S.
This would not be one of my first choices for a degree with these people as instructors!
Carothers, Engstrom, Hernandez, Mcguire. Feel free to add your own.
So someone that couldnt pass a promotional exam is a college professor? Only in Shitcago.
11/08/2010 03:42:00 PM
Some of those have credentials in getting launched by jfled.
But come on, a "PUBLIC SAFETY MANAGEMENT" degree?
I'd rather have a degree in arc welding from Popular Mechanics Magazine University.
I hope he does get extention, makes it easier for us to do nothing. Fed fuck.
What is the real reason why so many coppers were declined by MSF? Rumor was that IAD and IPRA stopped 24% from coming over. Another is if you had any open or pending cr numbers you couldn't. Another was some top brass cried about their boys not making it, so they stopped other qualified picks. What is the real answer for those of us who got turned down?
-po in 009
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The reason we asked for MSF applications was to identify the suck asses. Suck asses will do whatever they are told to do as long as we keep giving them BS honorable mentions and keep telling the public that they're special. Suck asses watch a lot of TV. They see themselves as the star. They do our bidding as long as we keep feeding that illusion.
Relax. You were identified. You made the suck ass list even if you didn't get into MSF.
Good things are in store for you.
-J Fled
Anonymous said...
Chicago police officer threatened at his home.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/2874118,CST-NWS-stalker08.article
This should have been handled differently.
11/08/2010 10:32:00 AM
How then? Please....do tell
Believe it or not people are buying into it. A few acquantainances of mine were talking at the park and commenting on what a good job Jfed is doing. They couldnt understand why the police dont like him, especially since hes reduced crime for 22 months in a row Thats there words, not mine
They bought the who;e pail of bullshit and there was no changing there mind
Oh, lying with statistics is such a fun game.
The journalism students at Medill have a different take on crime going down.
http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=172256
When you combine the lying with statistics with 1) the perception of crime and 2) the number of shootings that never even become a statistic, Chicago has a really big problem!! The number one issue on my mind in the upcoming mayoral election is finding someone with the will to take back the streets for decent people.
When I saw Rahmbo at the Apple store opening someone asked about whether he would keep J-Fled and he totally avoided the question. I bet if he is elected he is for sure goinna keep J-Fled in office! Theres no question! Fed takin care of Feds. In for another 3 yrs of J-Fled for sure!
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