Monday, November 08, 2010

Detective Rumor

Popping up with greater frequency over the past few days, the rumor hints at a December class of detectives. The only thing is we haven't seen a request for "meri-clout-orious" selections.

Has anyone seen anything?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke of a Dept./city !! They put a three year moratoreum on hiring Dets. and they will probably only make 50 Dets.

11/08/2010 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous retired detective said...

How's the Part I clearance rate going? Is it still 3 to 1 odds you can get away with murder in this town? And yet the City persists with this "merit" bullshit and further lowers the bar for assignment to the Detective Division.

Face it. Many, perhaps most of today's dicks couldn't catch a cold.

11/08/2010 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet all the clout people got their phone calls in already. Its kinda like the opening spots for fancy units in co book. Dont bother responding because they are already filled. Its just for show.

11/08/2010 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes there will be a class of 50-75 detectives but it won't happen until January or February of 2011. Downtown Ernie is waiting until he decides to send TACT teams to the area and if GEU is going to merge into OCD. Not all GEU will merge with OCD. A/3 GEU teams will be dumped back to districts along with some other teams that didn't produce. Once the dust settles, the dicks class will be made. He wants to get some bodies back into the districts.

11/08/2010 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not approved yet.

11/08/2010 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

I heard that theres a rumor that there are not going top be any more rumors

11/08/2010 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are probably just going to pick whomever they want for merit.

I hope the rumor is true that they are making detectives. I know u guys have been waiting a long time.

I am stuck on the Sgt.'s list myself.

Good luck!!

11/08/2010 06:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think they should make the merit class at the end - just before shit canning the list. It's not fair for those who passed.

11/08/2010 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes there will be a class of 50-75 detectives but it won't happen until January or February of 2011. Downtown Ernie is waiting until he decides to send TACT teams to the area and if GEU is going to merge into OCD. Not all GEU will merge with OCD. A/3 GEU teams will be dumped back to districts along with some other teams that didn't produce. Once the dust settles, the dicks class will be made. He wants to get some bodies back into the districts.

GEU is already in OCD, where have you been?

11/08/2010 07:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just our of curiosity.....whats there to produce in A/3? Entire Area is dead, dead from what I here.

11/08/2010 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the should do the right thing and not have merit for this class, they had us wait for over 3 years for a spot that we earned. In my opinion, you don't get the cream of the crop officers until you get between those who scored 200-400 on the list. In any case, I won't believe the rumor until the class starts

11/08/2010 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for j-feds current driver, if there's a detective promotion he'll be made detective for no reason and not sergeant for no reason. Bad timing I guess on the drivers part that he wasn't driving when there was a sergeant promotion. But wait he'll probably get double merit to sergeant when the next class starts.

11/08/2010 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good idea one merit class , everyone will know who they are and they won't have seniority on officers that studied to pass test.

11/08/2010 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the reason crime is down! There is nobody to investigate and follow up on cases!

Everything gets blown off!

Cooking the numbers at it finest!

Da Pelon

11/08/2010 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of sending A/3 geu back to districts... Make sure they send back the little bald lt who "runs the ship" he is a major problem why there is low production... The guy is afraid of his own shadow. He lies and is soooo shakey that you can stir a martini just by putting it in his hand. This coward has to go.

11/08/2010 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya! I studied them questions fair and square!

11/08/2010 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Idiots for thinking A/3 gang teams didnt produce...... We didnt lead in pissers or drinkers arrest, but lowest in number of homicides and agg. Batteries of occurance. You sound like those bosses that want to take officers from,slow districts and put them into fast ones.....leaving our homes unmanned. Hey, if its not broken, dont try to fix it. Haters

11/08/2010 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Passed on detective... said...

D-Unit has been down for years. 30-40 percent by now. A class of 50 is a drop in the bucket. It only shorts patrol 50 more bodies. Keep the bodies in patrol where they are most needed. Detectives are clearing less that 1 put of 3 homicides. Thats cleared, not charged or even convicted. Yeah, crime is down alright. What a joke!

11/08/2010 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous C.E. Winchester III said...

How come the posts with the most clear info about class size, dates, etc..are all anonymous? Due to it all being made up? I doubt any one on the inside (clout) would leak anything.
Or is it the constant rumor mill that tells us what we want to hear? Therefore we repeat it.

Just sayin....

11/08/2010 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off the subject but is it true that the Commander of 010 did not respond to his officer in the Hospital/. Did he even know the P.O.'s name how about just a a call?

11/08/2010 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumor I heard is that they are going to wait until after furlo picks are made

11/08/2010 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think they should make the merit class at the end - just before shit canning the list. It's not fair for those who passed.

11/08/2010 06:38:00 AM

You mean those that where passed.Its ALL MERIT.

11/08/2010 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

50 in December.

Done deal.

11/08/2010 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the stranger thing is the bernstein emails saying to get ready for an upcoming study guide. is a new test in the works?

11/08/2010 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet all the clout people got their phone calls in already
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Thats right. I got mine in and its gonna be a great Christmas. WahWahWah

11/08/2010 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How's the Part I clearance rate going? Is it still 3 to 1 odds you can get away with murder in this town? And yet the City persists with this "merit" bullshit and further lowers the bar for assignment to the Detective Division.

Face it. Many, perhaps most of today's dicks couldn't catch a cold.

___________________________________
Hey Sherlock Holmes,
Today's detectives face much more obstacles than "former" detectives did. With the strictly enforced 48 hour rule (which used to be 72 hours plus), the witness "rights" (i.e. no more locking uncooperative witnesses in rooms for a couple of days), and the incredibly hostile and difficult relationship with Anita's top 3 Felony Review Deputies, let's see how great your clear up rate would be. Get back to your Parcheesi game and keep bragging to your wife how great you were.

11/08/2010 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just because you say it and repeat rumors doesn't mean it will happen They have to have merit picks before it can happen and they haven't started them yet

11/08/2010 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Senora Sherlock said...

After J-Fled launched me as Chief, Detective Division morale and clearance rates are now at an all time low. Bring back only "the best and the brightest" (me). J-Fled is a man of honor, integrity and courage. His only mistake was dumping me.

I now know that lividity is not blushing and that rigor mortis has nothing to do with erectile dysfunction.

I would also make my old partner Henny Penny and the Burger Queen my deputies.

I still have my deerstalker cap, magnifying glass and Burberry trenchcoat with a cape. I'll wear a pinkie ring and smoke a good Cuban double corona or even a meerschaum pipe if J-Fled insists. I'm the real deal.

I also have developed confidential informants who will enable us to clear both the St. Valentine's Day Massacre and the Tylenol murders.

The game is afoot, J-Fled.

11/08/2010 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard there is an exempt meeting to take place this week about whether TRU is to be merged with MSF or disbanded? Anyone have details???????????

11/08/2010 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of rumors, whatever happened to Rumor Central. IIRC, it was established by Breczek back in the eighties.

11/08/2010 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Screw those who studied and worked hard, I WANT MY MERIT DETECTIVE SPOT!!!!!!!

My Mommy & Daddy worked super extra hard to ensure me that I would be merit and now I want it, I am over qualified. Jut look at all I have done in my 6 year career!

11/08/2010 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Sherlock Holmes,
Today's detectives face much more obstacles than "former" detectives did. With the strictly enforced 48 hour rule (which used to be 72 hours plus), the witness "rights" (i.e. no more locking uncooperative witnesses in rooms for a couple of days), and the incredibly hostile and difficult relationship with Anita's top 3 Felony Review Deputies, let's see how great your clear up rate would be. Get back to your Parcheesi game and keep bragging to your wife how great you were.

Don't forget D2A pay instead of D2 pay, whiner.

11/08/2010 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep checking the AMFN ( fax) for merit selection notification to the commanders..... Then about 2-4 weeks later the class is usually made.... (FYI)

11/08/2010 03:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a rumor. I'm gonna take a shit soon. Take that to the bank!

11/08/2010 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No comments about the Caps Sgt from 011 getting to the airport because her husband was/is number 2in CFD.

11/08/2010 03:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I here they are taking 50 and dumping the list. Time for a new one.

11/08/2010 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As of yesterday it has not been approved to start. I wish it was but its not. Hopefully soon. That's from 35th.

11/08/2010 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

Methinks you're too late, Senora Sherlock (12:05 PM).

The 1929 St. Valentine's Day Massacre in the garage at 2120 N. Clark St. occurred when seven members of the "Bugs" MORAN gang were murdered by two Sicilians. On the orders of Al CAPONE, hit men Alberto ANSELMI and Giovanni SCALISE, dressed as uniformed CPD, machine-gunned them.

Since Capone bludgeoned both Anselmi and Scalise to death with a baseball bat at a banquet less than 3 months later, it would be an exceptional clearance: death of the offenders.

As to the Tylenol Murders in late September, 1982, six of the seven cyanide-laced murders occurred in the suburbs. However, Paula PRINCE, 35, a United Airlines flight attendent from Sandburg Village bought her fatal dose at Walgreens, 1601 N. Wells St.

Both crimes occurred on current Beat 1814 and officially remain UNSOLVED.

Go for it, Senora Sherlock! J-Fled's got your back. Maybe he can hook you up with the BAU guys at Quantico for a "profile of the UNSUB".

Gotta run!

11/08/2010 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GEU is part of OCD. I realize that. The point is that SOME teams will remain and pull out of Homan Square instead of the Areas. The rest of the teams will go back to districts. Teams that were LESS productive, i.e. A/3 will get dumped back to districts. Its not that you guys didn't do a good job but there is less crime/less CB#s in Area 3. Iam not a hater on you guys. The rest of the city south of Madison street is a war zone and that's where Ernie wants to send people. He's sending POs to the hoods where the Reverends live. Its about building a coalition of Reverends to help him get the next Superintendent job. Reverends are able to control votes for candidates. That's why they have clout. And that's why their people get put into high ranking police jobs. Wake up you strokes. This has been going on for years. Iam just passing the message along from the Chief of Patrols office.

11/08/2010 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

please make my dear old hubbie a detective, he worked so hard to pass the test...waiting and waiting we sit :(

what percentage is meritorious anyway...20% or 30% ???

11/08/2010 05:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit picks are coming out soon, They can not have a class in December because soom officers have 13A-B furlos. These furlos can not be be pushed back any further, thus the class is set to start 1st or 2nd period next year. Class of 75 then a second class of 75 dics in the fall for a total 150in 2011 like the Cline Era. 130 off the list and 30 merit in 2011. The last Detective made of the list was number 243 in 2007.

11/08/2010 06:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

individual incidents are what help fuel these rumors. Detective training unit at academy was asked turn-around time for requesting the usual guest speakers for a d class. someone told two friends and they told two friends and so on and so on....

11/08/2010 07:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the should do the right thing and not have merit for this class, they had us wait for over 3 years for a spot that we earned. In my opinion, you don't get the cream of the crop officers until you get between those who scored 200-400 on the list. In any case, I won't believe the rumor until the class starts

11/08/2010 07:55:00 AM

Damn! I scored in the 170's, but I guess I'm just cream cheese. Where do moron coppers come up with this shit. Jesus.

11/08/2010 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean spirited griping coppers, who blame meritorious appointments for all your short comings get over yourselves!

Your sense of entitlement, clouds your sense of reality in the department. Not all of us will be promoted, be in the inn crowd or fast tract to what we want.

So quit blaming everything or everyone from keeping you from your delusional expectations, of where you think you should be in your career. It makes for a better experience when completing your carrier to retirement, which is the ultimate goal right? Just sain'.

11/08/2010 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard there is an exempt meeting to take place this week about whether TRU is to be merged with MSF or disbanded? Anyone have details???????????

11/08/2010 12:20:00 PM

Yep & tru is gone. Merging 100 from tru and buh bye to the rest. Welcome back to patrol all you hard chargers, so much for elite!!

11/08/2010 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we don't need a detective class. We need more people in MSF!

11/08/2010 09:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Not Dick or Det. said...

Anonymous said...
Good idea one merit class , everyone will know who they are and they won't have seniority on officers that studied to pass test.

11/08/2010 08:12:00 AM

Hey junior, seniority for dick's is time on the job not time in grade. It sucks but what doesn't around here?

11/08/2010 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the should do the right thing and not have merit for this class, they had us wait for over 3 years for a spot that we earned. In my opinion, you don't get the cream of the crop officers until you get between those who scored 200-400 on the list. In any case, I won't believe the rumor until the class starts

11/08/2010 07:55:00 AM

Damn! I scored in the 170's, but I guess I'm just cream cheese. Where do moron coppers come up with this shit. Jesus.

11/08/2010 07:09:00 PM

There are 2 ways to look at this, you scored 170 meaning that's closer to 200 than 100. Or you scored 170, all book smarts- no common sense! You make the choice who you want to be? On this job common sense goes alot farther than book smarts! That's why it's called a opinion

11/08/2010 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the should do the right thing and not have merit for this class, they had us wait for over 3 years for a spot that we earned. In my opinion, you don't get the cream of the crop officers until you get between those who scored 200-400 on the list. In any case, I won't believe the rumor until the class starts

11/08/2010 07:55:00 AM

Damn! I scored in the 170's, but I guess I'm just cream cheese. Where do moron coppers come up with this shit. Jesus.

11/08/2010 07:09:00 PM

There are 2 ways to look at this, you scored 170 meaning that's closer to 200 than 100. Or you scored 170, all book smarts- no common sense! You make the choice who you want to be? On this job common sense goes alot farther than book smarts! That's why it's called a opinion

11/08/2010 10:23:00 PM

How about I had enough common sense to study my ass off to score well enough to get made over three years ago?? With over ten years of crimefighting under my belt?

I have "an" opinion too. You are a jealous, insecure, moron copper. Another commando that thinks all his dope pinches entitles him to detective status. Good luck getting ahead in life.

11/09/2010 07:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever.

I still think the merit people should be made just before the list gets torn down.

But who am I to say? I'm just some dumb shit who studied my ass off for the sergeant's test and scored under 150.

Tic toc. Tic toc.

How do u merit jags look in the mirror? Pick up a general order and study once in a while.

11/09/2010 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

19% of the 20% Mertit picks are going to Diversity picks. It's a damn shame that most of the merit picks in the last 15 years weren't even qualified to work beat cars. Don't even get me started on the 29% of merit sergeants & above. I've said it before any here again; POST SCORES AND RANKINGS FOR THE MEMBERSHIP. Is selecting the most qualified individual a bad thing?
To the next generation taking the CPD Exam:
Save your money & stay away from study exams offered by CPD approved professors, oh, and that line on the flyer that says "...opportunity for advancement " what a crock of BS.
GottaRun@chickenshit.org/march1

11/09/2010 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They may wait until Jan or Feb to make dics, or they may not make any at all. The arguement that they care about 13a and 13b furlos doesn't make sense, the last class was made Nov 30th 2007, affecting 13a and 13b furlos. The new dics would just get a 14a!

11/09/2010 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, if the last class was in 2007, there is a chance that a few on that list have since made sergeant and retired so my number and chances maybe even greater!

Rather be a Detective any day then a Sergeant.

11/09/2010 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumor. Current detectives will not have bid openings when new detectives are made.

The administration does not want people leaving Area's 1 & 2. This was done to the last few groups of supervisors. The only time detectives have any opportunity to bid to a new Area is when promotions are made. If this is true the union needs to get on it. Supposedly the issue of no bidding opportunities for detectives was to be addresed in the last contract.

To the retired "can't catch a cold detective". You were the guy all of us in patrol hated. Your high opinion of yourself and bitterness towards others is just great. If you knew anything about the current rules like witness treatment and video you might have a clue about clearence rates. Sounds like you are really enjoying your retirement.

11/09/2010 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it true that the Swipe-in Swipe-Out will be coming to the entire Department on Jan. 1st, 2011 ???

11/09/2010 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

command staff merit commanders and merit captains don't have to take a test so why do we have to take a test for detective , sergeant and lieutenant .

system works well , only the smartest , best police officers are promoted meritoriously
why let 70% good test takers slip through the cracks and get promoted without political clout

11/09/2010 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the goof that was talking about the cream of the crop is between 200 and 400. Where do you come up with that?? Let me guess, 2 year wonder?!? Right. Open your mind

I know great police officers that have bombed the tests, great police officers that aced the test, and the same goes for the softballs like yourself.

My first test I scored high 500s, second, high 400s, this one high 100s. I studied my ass off for all three tests.

And I'll stack my resume up against yours any day of the week, With no phone call. Just hard work, some bitching, and more hard work.

Quit crying, and let the cards fall where they fall, there is no rhyme or reason to how anything is done here anymore. And that a fact. Shut your mouth, work hard, study hard.

11/09/2010 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

detectives assigned to academy are ramping up for a D class. a few more detectives were recently detailed to academy to assist.

11/10/2010 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No dick's class anytime soon , during street talk Ernie Brown was
asked by p.o's det's class or sgt's class when? He stated sgt's class
possibly dec if city approves. never mentioned anything about det's class.
i'm close to making sgt the next class,
but i hope they do a det's class too!
i know how hard it is to wait being so close!

11/11/2010 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

E.B. also said about a year and a half ago that we where short about 2 maybe 4 D2a's.

11/12/2010 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we don't need any more dicks
cime is down
we need more beat officers

11/13/2010 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, so much for that Det. Class!!!
Keep studying your ass off for these tests....
"opportunity for advancement"..... My Ass!

11/14/2010 10:56:00 AM  

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