Meeks Flip-Flops
State Sen. James Meeks said Monday he has handed off day-to-day responsibility for operating his massive South Side church to his senior staff and would continue the arms-length relationship if he’s elected mayor.
Last month, Meeks told the Chicago Sun-Times that he would not give up his ministry at Salem Missionary Baptist Church if he’s elected mayor and that his position was “non-negotiable.”
He said he firmly believed he could run his 22,000-member church and serve as mayor at the same time and those voters who don’t think so “probably shouldn’t vote for me.”
That led several African-American aldermen to virtually rule him out as the consensus black candidate to succeed Mayor Daley.
Apparently, that position was not “non-negotiable” after all.
And does anyone know if Meeks is actually a resident of Chicago? We recall a bunch of comments saying he wasn't and that would throw a wrench in his ambitions almost instantly.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Meeks vs Emanuel. That's a hard choice!
Why should Meeks' residence matter? Apparently, Rahm's does not.
Meeks actually lives in South Holland. He claims to live in a rectory in 005 but that , along with everything else he spews out of his big mouth, is a big lie.
If it was an IAD residency case the finding would be sustained and he would have been discharged.
On another note heard he forged an alliance with gd Noonie Ward to take Beale's seat as he and Beale are on the outs
I thought Meeks lived in South Holland.
If Rahm can run, why not Meeks. By the by I hope one of them wins. Residency lifted. Just keep a place in the city, you don't even have to live there, and you can rent it out.
Meeks is dirty, State Senator , Reverend - doesn't matter. If people only knew the truth about him. You can take him out of the ghetto but you can't take the ghetto out of him. He's no fan of the police either so If he runs for mayor and God forbid wins, we're all in a world of hurt.
HOLY CRAP!
Check out this new Chicago Police TV Show... what a crock of shit. Someone had to pay off Daley to get permission to use the "Chicago Police" name
http://www.tv.com/video/10461399/the-chicago-code--ride-along--high-speed-chase?tag=vid_carousel;vid;2
Translation:
“I would still steal from the
mutha-fuckin basket ya'll”
Meeks is a flip flop.
And does anyone know if Meeks is actually a resident of Chicago? We recall a bunch of comments saying he wasn't and that would throw a wrench in his ambitions almost instantly.
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It matters not. daley granted him a "free pass" to do what he wants. His ministry covers the earth so he's Entitled to run. Wish I could find out what his "package" to drop out of the running is worth !!!!
Face up Kiddies, we're getting Rahm rammed up of bootys !!!! Meeks is a Democrook Shill. It's his job !!
The majority of blacks DO NOT want Meeks, Davis or Hendon as our next Mayor.
Carol M Braun may not be a good candidate either, that will be decided when the real campaigning starts.
These posts make you seem paranoid and delusional, there is no fix in, everyone is tired of do-nothing, corrupt politicians.
Peraica with his mob ties, just got arrested, dressed in all black "cat burglar" clothes and then sued to cover up alledgedly criminal behavior. You could see he was a maniac when lost to Stroger.
People, especially, decent, productive blacks, are tired of this mess.
Signed..a citizen
I come up with three property records:
11824 S. Indiana, Chicago in July 2001 (which seems to be the mega-church address)
2050 River Oaks Dr, Cal City in October 2004
16903 Manor Drive, South Holland, no date
A 16 Sept Sun Times article claims to verify he does live adjacent to the church and the high end home in South Holland was purchasd for his father.
Didn't search Jamie/Jamell, his wife, though. Going to bed now so I can get out and vote in the morning.
Let's see . . . . Rahm vs. Meeks vs. Candidate No. 3. Meeks and No. 3 split the democratic base, leaving Rahm with the victory. It worked for Harold.
Clearly, Daley and Rahm have been pals a long time, but they have kept their relationship low key. Now that Daley is leaving, he is handing the keys to the city to Rahm. This is evident by the sudden dropping out of the race by the candidates, like bugs around a bug light. Dart, Fioretti, who else has been told in back room deals not to mess with the mayor's control of the city? This is the puppet master pulling the strings. we are like children in the audience.
Vote republican so that we can get screwed by someone new. the city's democratic party is like an old hag you just can't get rid of.
Unless St. Rahm of the Nine Fingers gets 50 percent of the vote in February, unlikely, it goes to round two in April between the top two vote getters.
Right now the opposition in general is weak and no announced potential black candidate could win city wide.
Davis? Shit.
Braun? Shit.
Rogers? Who is that Shit?
Meeks? Reverend Shit who is a big spender and social conservative.
The hispanic candidates are weak and or have baggage.
Chico? Shit.
Del Valle? Seems decent but can he defeat the nine fingered wonder.?
Tom Dart could have beaten Rahm, but he either doesn't have the heart for the race or had some huge skeleton in his closet that Rahm found out about.
We're left with a field of munchkins facing an asshole of biblical proportion.
Right now the best hope the Rahmulans have is for one of the weaker black candidates end up in the runoff.
It's unfortunate no serious candidate, black or white or brown or lime green for that matter, will apparently be facing the Rahmulan.
I've met exactly one person who likes Emmanuel and that person isn't very bright. What Chicago has done to deserve our leaders is beyond me.
Thats great now there will be no middle man. Straight from our pockets to theirs i love chicagostan! Verrrry nice!
Given the problem with Rahm's residency issue, if "they" can show that Meeks doesn't live in the city either, but the machine wants him to run to split the black vote, it will all be swept under the rug.
Rahm will be mayor, voters and residency be damned!
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Neither Meeks or Emanuel should be mayor because they haven't lived in Chicago the required year. But laws only apply to cops. Shitheads and politicians (gee, they're pretty much the same thing, aren't they Luis?) are exempt from the law.
I'm sure many of you won't agree but Meeks would be better than Raham.
Ah yes pulling the old Jesses Jackson pay me to shut up and go away game huh. This political crap makes me sick.
You guys are living in the past. The election will require a run-off of the top two if there is no 50+% candidate in February. Splitting the black vote only matters if it means no black candidate would get into the top two. Not like the old days when you could win with 35% of the vote.
The definition of residency is loose, except if you are a city employee, that is. It is where you are registered to vote, where you pay utilities, where you lay you head on most nights, where your personal vehicle is registered and where you keep some of your personal effects. Meeks could easily have a residence for him in the city and one for his family in the burbs. This is the standard used by the city to determine employee residency. I had a house in the city and when I retired I sold it to a man coming on the fire department. His family never moved from the burbs and he only stays in the house on the nights he works, which is two each week. If you have enough cash to have two houses or an apartment and a house, then you can do the same. Most cops I know or knew had to work two jobs to pay the tuition.
Meeks v. Emanuel is like voting for either satan or satan's pastor.
who ever wins, meeks or rahm, were fucked, they are both garbage.
I have to say. If Rahm or da Reverend is Mayor, then residency should be lifted immediately - no questions asked and if it's not, each and every city employee should raise a stink to high heaven until it is. Don't let this one go people. Neither of them live in Chicago and should not be able to run for Mayor.
That's been the problem the whole time Daley was mayor. Not one decent politician would run against the stroke. And now that he's stepping down off his thrown, all we have is a bunch of "nimrods" running. Tom Dart would have been my pick out of the bunch but he pulled out. It's not too late. Is somebody out there worth a damn to run. Come on; we'll all vote for ya just step forward and take the challenge. __________ for Mayor!
The Rev. Sen. Reeks lives in Rev. Wright's million dollar Tinley Park garage.
What started the Harold Washington era was Daley's refusal to back out and let the incumbent mayor, Jayne Byrne have a clear shot at Harold. By staying in the race, the white vote was split allowing Washington to gain the Democratic spot in the general election.
Even with that, a political unknown Republican, Saul Epton, came within a whisker of becoming mayor.
Isn't there ANYONE, Republican or Independent, that could take a run at Rahm ? ? ?
"People, especially, decent, productive blacks, are tired of this mess.
Signed..a citizen
11/02/2010 01:36:00 AM"
so, the questions are: are 'decent, productive blacks' all registered to vote, are they the majority of all self-identified 'black' residents of our city, will they all vote on election day, and, who will they vote for?
"Vote republican so that we can get screwed by someone new. the city's democratic party is like an old hag you just can't get rid of.
11/02/2010 02:20:00 AM"
will there be a 'republican' candidate on the ballot?
will there be any candidates on the ballot, besides democrats?
and, will any of the broadcast media inform the electorate if there are?
what's the deadline date for filing nominating petitions?
by what date will a prospective candidate know whether or not his/her petition has been approved, or denied, by the election board?
I'm a black civilian citizen and I'm not voting for Meeks. I'd vote for Chico first. Don't assume that idiot has the black votes locked in because he doesn't. A lot of the other black churches leadership don't care for him and neither does the membership.
I would vote for Meeks over Emanuel any day
Signed: M/2/50
Meeks would be 1 & Done.
Emanuel would create a kingdom of fear that would make Daley's tenure look like kiddie land
Don't confuse Chicago's residency requirements to be employed by the City. It is a state law that defines the requirements for a candidate to run for election. You can own property wherever you want, but your primary residence must be within the political entity for which you are running for office for the period of 12 months before the election. This being the County of Cook, I don't see why they would let a 100+ year old law get in the way of a good election - perhaps they'll use Chicago's bullshit status as a "sanctuary city"?
I come up with three property records:
11824 S. Indiana, Chicago in July 2001 (which seems to be the mega-church address)
2050 River Oaks Dr, Cal City in October 2004
16903 Manor Drive, South Holland, no date
A 16 Sept Sun Times article claims to verify he does live adjacent to the church and the high end home in South Holland was purchasd for his father.
Didn't search Jamie/Jamell, his wife, though. Going to bed now so I can get out and vote in the morning.
I remember him saying a few years ago in church that he did purchase a home for his Father in the South Suburbs and the South Holland address could be it. His oldest daughter got married a couple years ago and that Cal City address could be hers. The Indiana address is NOT next to the mega church...its the old one.
His family never moved from the burbs and he only stays in the house on the nights he works, which is two each week. If you have enough cash to have two houses or an apartment and a house, then you can do the same. Most cops I know or knew had to work two jobs to pay the tuition.
11/02/2010 08:14:00 AM
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Well, maybe you can manage to keep your mouth shut and not spew this guy's business all over the place, because residency requires you spend MORE THAN HALF the time at the city location.
Chicago needs more of a celebrity mayor like Donald Trump or Mike Ditka. Someone who can handle the idiot media we have here as well as give Chicago a better image.
Too bad Trump doesn't live here but looking at the competition - they don't really live here either so having a condo at Trump Tower should qualify Trump as much as Rahm is "qualified".
Sound too radical? Look at the choices today. Are they any better?
Rahm? No way.
Meeks? No way.
Braun? No way.
People have to start waking up and seeing that this city needs leadership and not a clone of Daley or anyone else.
The same people who whine about the lack of leadership here in the CPD are the same ones who probably don't even vote.
Did you even vote today? Did you vote for change or did you vote to keep your clout with the machine, like my brother Heavy, who is a triple-merit captain?
Can't have it both ways.
I can only think of one guy, offhand, that I believe COULD beat Rahm and all other candidates. David Hoffman.
Unfortunately he chose way back on Sep 26th to not run for mayor. That's a shame as I really think he could have won.
Today, Ald. Fioretti revealed that he has cancer and also will not run for mayor.
Of all the cockroaches who came scurrying out from under their respective rocks when Daley announced he was done, (JJJr, Gutierrez, Dart, etc), who's left? What happened to Waugespach?
why would anybody even listen to this racist rasin-head ????
NOBODY with even a bit of integrity to choose from. All a bunch of phoney scammers, so far...Crookago is DOOMED ...
South Holland PO, I have known for a while that Meeks owns a home in South Holland, but I have never seen him in town. Run for mayor of Chicago, Hmmmmmmmm.......
Pat Quinn will not be reelected
He will then run for Mayor and win
this is a win win for police , teachers and citizens of Chicago
OT ~ FYI... For anyone living in the 46th Ward, there is a 'meet the candidates' forum tomorrow night with Police Officer Mike Carroll, who is running for retiring Ald. Helen Shillers' city council seat.
While I like the idea of coppers getting involved in the political process, (we can certainly use an advocate), he has no lock on the opening. At least 6 others are running.
http://www.uptownupdate.com/2010/11/
aldermanic-forum-wednesday-meet-michael.html
Even with that, a political unknown Republican, Saul Epton, came within a whisker of becoming mayor.
Isn't there ANYONE, Republican or Independent, that could take a run at Rahm ? ? ?
11/02/2010 10:53:00 AM
hey moron ,it was Bernard Epton! and he didnt come close at all to winning!
Too late! Get lost fool!
Ernie Brown would have an orgasm if Meeks was Mayor. Can you imagine that piece of crap as our Superintendent?
Why is it that a humble Reverend, a Man of the Cloth, owns so much property? How did he get it? does he share it with the poor and dowtrodden? why doesn't he sell some of his properties and give the money to the Needy ? Why? Because he's a DEMOCRAT, and LOVES to spend YOUR Taxdollar money for himself and his Chronies, but none of HIS Money... Typical Democommiecrat.
Pat Quinn will not be reelected
He will then run for Mayor and win
this is a win win for police , teachers and citizens of Chicago
11/02/2010 02:54:00 PM
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Seriously, are you smoking some really awful shit, or what?
hey moron ,it was Bernard Epton! and he didnt come close at all to winning!
11/02/2010 07:21:00 PM
hey moron! He came very close to winning!
"A resident of the Hyde Park neighborhood of Chicago, Epton ran against the liberal African American Democrat Harold Washington in the mayoral election in the spring of 1983. In a racially charged election, Epton came within 40,000 votes (of 1.2 million cast) of defeating the Democratic nominee. His total was the high-water mark for Chicago Republicans in elections for mayor in the heavily Democratic city. Epton received 81 percent of the votes of Chicago whites, and 3 percent from blacks".
That's 620,000 to 580,000. Ask ANY elected official if that is a close election and they will say it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Epton
SCC, Off topic. The following was sent to Captains, this should be a Hoot. By "Zone" Captain, what they mean is one WC for whatever zone u are working. Hold on, the ride is about to get a little bumpier.
Fellow Members:
The City is about to institute some major changes that will affect the majority of our membership. This includes the introduction of the "Zone Captain" and the ability to request, via PAR form, reassignment to another district. These changes are scheduled to take place on change day, 11 November 2010.
Recently, many of my close police officer friends have pointed me toward this site... One of your contributors have asked "is there anyone out there, anyone, maybe an independent, who will run for mayor?" I would like to answer that call! I have been collecting signatures for the last month to get on the ballot. My name is John Hu and I am an Independent candidate for the Mayor of Chicago. I am fed up with career politicians ruining our great city. My experience is in business and a new CEO is needed to clean up Chicago government. Many of my friends know even before finding this blog, I am an advocate of the Chicago Police Department. I have publicly stated I will promote from within for the police top spot and Jody Weis is out! Other candidates will not definitively say what they will do about this. I believe it starts at the top in any type of organization. Without that leadership, the officers don't have the confidence to go out and do their jobs. Morale is completely destroyed. I will hire an additional 1000-2000 new police officers. No longer will experienced officers be moved from their current district to unfamiliar ones. I will shore up the pension problem for both the police and firefighters of Chicago. They predict by 2023 there will be no more money to fully secure your pensions. I will not let that happen! Mismanagement, government waste and inefficiency have decimated every aspect of Chicago government. I will fix the problems with CPS. No longer will the children of Chicago be the victims! Finally, Chicago receives enough revenue. This next year over $6.15 billion has been allocated for the next budget. We have enough money! No property tax increases! We need to run Chicago more efficiently. Within 2 weeks of becoming Mayor, I will hire an outside auditor, with no connections to Chicago, to perform a complete forensic audit of Chicago finances. From all revenue collected to all expenditures to get a complete idea of where our money is being wasted. Finally, can I win? It's probably not heard too often, but I hope I come in 2nd! No person in this race will be able to get 50% of the vote to win outright. Rahm Emanuel, who seems to want to keep Weis will probably come in first with the most votes. Everyone else will split up the remaining votes. When I come in 2nd it's run-off time for me and Mr. Emanuel! I have gotten an incredible response from the citizens from every ethnic group. Getting on the ballot will be worldwide news! I will have 15 minutes of fame to get my word out. A non-politician on the ballot running against the machine...let the race begin! The younger vote 18-34 now comprises 30% of registered voters in Chicago. Too many people are fed up with what politicians promise before the election then it's back to business as usual the day after. I want to be your voice and I want to make a difference!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC, Off topic. The following was sent to Captains, this should be a Hoot. By "Zone" Captain, what they mean is one WC for whatever zone u are working. Hold on, the ride is about to get a little bumpier.
Fellow Members:
The City is about to institute some major changes that will affect the majority of our membership. This includes the introduction of the "Zone Captain" and the ability to request, via PAR form, reassignment to another district. These changes are scheduled to take place on change day, 11 November 2010.
11/02/2010 10:30:00 PM
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They think one person can handle 7 & 8? or 15 & 25? What about the zones that cover two areas? What happens when the Captain is off?
What started the Harold Washington era was indeed Daley splitting the white vote with Jane.
It's like a play in a playbook. Two candidates may be close in the polls. A third candidate splits the base of one of the other candidates. The winner benefits from the rift caused by the third candidate.
Daley did split the white vote. Can someone in the next election split the black vote? does that matter? what about the white vote? the point is that if a viable challenger to mayor appears, a third candidate will be introduced to help Rahm. it's a play that worked before, so try it again but use it to the Machine's advantage this time.
Somehow, the democratic party of Chicago, which seems to have absolutely nothing in common with the national democratic party, has unbelievable control over government in chicago.
For what, almost 40 years, the Daley clan has run Chicago government. When Richie II took office, some of his father's advisors became his advisors (tom donovan of CBOT fame, for example).
Imagine buying a house, but every door, window, closet, drawer, cabinet, etc., had a lock with a different key. The seller tells you that you can buy the house, but he won't give you all the keys to the different locks to make the house functional. would you buy this house? this is Daley's position. he is the seller. anyone who comes into the mayor's office won't know sh*t about where everything is because the Daleys hold all the keys to city government and its day-to-day functions. Daley will only sell the house to someone he trusts (the Bridgeport way). Welcome Rahm Emanuel. Goodbye Dart.
Apologies for the long post, but with Daley stepping down, there was hope for a bright future, but with the candidates being presented, the future doesn't look so bright anymore.
Anonymous said...
Ernie Brown would have an orgasm if Meeks was Mayor. Can you imagine that piece of crap as our Superintendent?
11/02/2010 07:48:00 PM
Would he be an worse than Breczak or Leroy Martin?
"Ernie Brown would have an orgasm if Meeks was Mayor. Can you imagine that piece of crap as our Superintendent?
11/02/2010 07:48:00 PM"
ernie has an orgasm just by sneezing.
Dear SCC,if Mr Hu is sincere,how about dedicating a thread to him so we can get to know him,see where he stands on the issues that needs to be addressed. The non-stop corruption,on going political hackary that occurs daily. I think he should run as either an indepenent or a republican,because either way he will owe no any favors and can run the city the way it should be ran. The message needs to be drilled into the heads of the current flock of dumbocrats that times they are "A CHANGIN" and that they better get on board or they will be swept out with the rest of the trash. By the way i am African American and tuesday for the first time i voted republican and that's why so many Republicans won office,i voted republican in part because i am tired of these fast talking (but not saying anything worth while) do nothing idiots that are currently in control. A good example was that westside crook Ricky Hendon. He looked like a total asshat last week when he was at that so-called ralley calling the opponent of another encumbant names like a ten year old at the playground. Writting this message as someone who helped the Republican cause,dumbocrats beware,a new day is coming,start doing things that help people and stop sticking your collective fingers in our pockets or we are going to pull out our pocket knives and forcifully remove your fingers,One---digit---at---a---time.!!!!!YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!.
Rham wants to cut our salaries and fuck our pensions even more. I would like to see Donald Trump run for Mayor, at least he does have "residency," at the Trump Tower.
It would be my sincere pleasure to answer any questions you might have regarding all issues related to the City of Chicago... For far too long we, as citizens of Chicago, have lost our voice in Chicago government! Career politicians are continuously stealing from every part of Chicago to the very core. Because many police officers read this blog, let me ask you, "After the City of Chicago sold 2 very expensive well known assets, how much was used to shore up some of the pension deficit from the police and firefighters pension?" From the bilions of dollars gained from these incredible assets...NOT ONE DOLLAR! A one-time fix to the pension fund would have insured a better retirement for many more officers. Better management and efficiency is needed to make these things happen. Like I mentioned before under my administration you will have a new leader from within. This is essential to start at the top with someone who worked as a partolman, and then moved up the ranks. Someone who has experienced what you have gone through, before they make a decision on your behalf. You need to be able to trust your leaders first before you can go out and do the job you were meant to do with confidence.
Help me make a difference!
Citizen Mayor John Hu
"The seller tells you that you can buy the house, but he won't give you all the keys to the different locks to make the house functional. would you buy this house?" Anonymous
This house sounds like a house in foreclosure... One that is completely upside down (deficit), where the owners have left all the doors locked, the water running and have taken the keys (Daley). This house needs to be remodeled, doors replaced, and fully inspected (forensic audit) before the next buyer can move in. I like your analogy because everything that is happening seems to be heading toward that "inside deal" where the new buyer has already been chosen. But that final approval from the bank (people) won't happen. Here's why... The people of Chicago are getting smarter. They know if they approve this deal they will be the ones to pay in the long-run. The days of tolerating the abuse from our elected leaders is over. It is time to take a stand for Chicago and take back the city. It is estimated at least 20 new alderman will fill council seats this next election. As mayor I will make sure everyone can work together for the greater good of Chicagoans!
Citizen Mayor John Hu
After 21 years of King Daley II, I would have loved to have Jane Bryne or Harold Washington in Daley's place, especially after reading the archives here about how police were/are treated and increased crime (especially in downtown).
Whether it's John Hu or someone else, I'd like to volunteer and vote for a candidate that is aligned with the police and other liked minded people.
Let's show these career politicians who the real boss is... the People of Chicago! I think sometimes they forget this. And once in awhile... maybe, every 21 years, we need to remind them!
Whether any of these groups pick a consensus candidate, the people they represent will vote with their conscience and not always the way their representative wants. I'm hoping this will be the case.
Keeping as many candidates in this race is better for the campaign. The more candidates there are the lower the total average votes per candidate. The less the 2nd place finisher needs to get to the run-off election against the "chosen one".
By the way, I keep reading about something that seems equally important to police officers which I would like to address at this time. Residency seems to be an important issue among them. I know we couldn't completely take away the residency requirement. This would be quite detrimental for the City of Chicago and I've told everyone I won't do anything to hurt the citizens. How about this...
So the city doesn't have an exodus of police residents, how about if we try something like this to be discussed with my new superintendent. For every new officer hired next year (I plan 1000+) how about allowing the exact number to start preparing for a move to the burbs the following year. Thus, the net effect on resident loss is zero. We can continue this process by seniority (number of years on the job) and willing participants. We will work out the legal hassles together to make this happen.
Your candidate, your voice!
Citizen Mayor John Hu
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