Saturday, January 22, 2011

Look Into My Crystal Balls

  • It was a bit like a scene from “Minority Report,” the 2002 Tom Cruise movie that featured genetically altered humans with special powers to predict crime.

    In October, the Chicago Police Department’s new crime-forecasting unit was analyzing 911 calls for service and produced an intelligence report predicting a shooting would happen soon on a particular block on the South Side.

    Three minutes later, it did, police officials say.

Could we get the documentation on this one? Because this should have been blasted all over the television, radio and internet if even remotely true.

And if true, then the results should be easily reproducible. To date, we haven't heard of a single incident of the Crystal Ball Unit (or it's predecessor) successfully predicting a single crime, including the one cited as the basis for this entire article.

The tongue bath continues:
  • That got police Supt. Jody Weis thinking.

    He wondered if the department could produce intelligence reports even quicker. Next time, officers might have an hour’s notice before a shooting — instead of just a few minutes.

That's an amazing thing in and of itself - thinking that they actually "predicted" a shooting. It has been said that even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while. This prediction was obviously a blind squirrel/nut scenario and a monumental confluence of coincidences.

We aren't going to bore you with the entire load of nonsense, but the article states the prediction area was over a mile square. Shit, we could pick a box measuring a mile square on each side, drop it in the middle of 007, 006, 011, 010, or 015 and have a positive prediction ratio approaching easily approaching 70%. It's a joke. Oh heck, here's the portion we're citing:
  • The Predictive Analytics Group, which sorts through crime statistics and demographic data, was formed by Weis last spring.

    At the time, the department was generating weekly citywide intelligence reports on violent crime and identifying “hot spots” of more than a square mile.

    Weis said the goal of the Crime Analytics Group was to produce twice-a-day intelligence reports concentrating on smaller hot spots.

    Nine months later, that’s been accomplished, said Goldstein, who said his unit also is working with detectives to identify robbery patterns.

    Goldstein said he expects the intelligence reports will eventually go out more often than twice a day “as we move closer to real-time architecture.”

    But the science behind the reports remains a mystery. Goldstein won’t give specifics on how his unit makes its predictions or identify the targeted areas, saying he does not want to tip off criminals.

Science? This guy wrote a program for restaurant reservations for pete's sake. He didn't invent crime fighting. He doesn't even have 18 months of street time and now he's a crime scientist?

Specifics? We'll clue you in Frank Main - there are none. It's a "mystery" because it's smoke, mirrors and a daily helping of bullshit, specially imported from Lincoln Park Zoo's Bovine Emporium. Detectives were identifying robbery patterns with push pins and big maps decades before the four-year wonder Director was a gleam in his daddy's eye. The only difference now is the computer generated maps are way cooler than before and the pushpins don't stick you in the ass when you fold up the map to take it on the street with you.

If there was a science to it or any real results available, it would be all over the press releases and touted as the next big thing. Someone would be looking to make some real money as consultants or analysts or selling the software or visiting professorships with prestigious universities and think-tanks. None of that is present or even on the horizon.

The best part of the article isn't actually in the article though. It's in the comment section and it references Dugan's retirement party:
  • Why does the media keep drinking the kool aid from this imposter and padding his resume?
    Retiring Deputy Superintendent Dugan said it best in his retirement speech, "This department will hopefully return to its better days when this joke of an experiment is over."
Hopefully, Dugan said exactly that, because it's true. Our readers have been saying it for almost three years now. Too bad it wasn't said sooner, louder and by more people in power.

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137 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha. Take away that fancy red stapler of theirs and see what happens.

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Even a stopped clock's right twice a day...

Worse than useless because they cost money and waste time and space and resources.

Put them in uniform with a stick and a revolver and a nice shiny star, walking the subway cars at midnight; maybe some working-poor bakery lady will get home with her purse that night, and that one positive outcome would outweigh everything the bastards have done so far.

1/22/2011 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. Can they predict when the next detectives class (over three years since the last) and/or Sgt. class will start. Maybe new hires start date. DOUBT it, but they can predict random shootings. Unbelievable.

1/22/2011 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(SCC- Forgive the length of this. I prepared it in advance and have been waiting for a post on Predictive Analysis to submit it. As a who kinda understands how computer algos work, predictive analysis disturbs me greatly and I'd like an opportunity to try and explain why to your readers and particularly, the Police Officers of Chicago. I do wish to remain anonymous.)

Remember when you were a kid and played the game “Memory”?
You'd lay out a series of picture cards, face down... Then, you and a friend would take turns flipping them over, trying to match them up. The longer the game went on, the easier it became, simply because you had more data to work with in terms of finite information that could be interrelated. You knew that if you flipped over a card and it had a picture of a lemon on it, there was matching lemon card three in from the left on the bottom row, because you saw it a couple turns back...

In doing this, your brain was acting much like a computer does when it goes to process info. You remembered the card, you remembered the row. Basic, axial data analysis. It doesn't matter that you might not know the technical terms for what you were doing, nor that you were probably unaware you were doing it. All that matters is many thousands of years of Darwinian selection has ensured your brain is able to function in this fashion, almost instantaneously.

Now, imagine trying to play that same game of Memory, but instead of of each card having a fixed parameter (a picture of a Lemon, a picture of a Treasure Chest), the pictures were constantly changing. This time, you turn over the card and it's a picture of a Guitar. The next time you turn over that very same card, it's a picture of an Eel... The next time, a Sailboat... The game would go on virtually forever and never resolve, simply because there would be no way to correlate one piece of data with another.

From time to time, lightning would strike and you would match two cards... And yes, eventually, predictive analysis will say that Block 123 on Street XYZ is due for a robbery and a robbery will happen but that isn't because they're developed some proprietary analytical insight. If you're in the business of making abstract predictions, eventually, sun shines on a dogs ass and you get one right for no reason more complex than the immutable law of probability. Chance. Dumb fucking luck.
(continued)

1/22/2011 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(continued)

Now, here comes the slow-pitch.

Anyone with 1/2 a brain realizes that some crimes might be 'related' – three burglaries in an hour in a two block radius, yeah... Probably related. Or that events of violence might precipitate further, retaliatory events of violence in gang areas, etc. Did you need mathematical analysis to resolve this problem? To know those things might be related? Of course not! Your qualitative intelligence as a human being was SIGNIFICANTLY more efficient than whatever could be accomplished by breaking the crimes down into numerical data streams and feeding it into an algorithmic bucket sort (software geek-speak- that means 'what a computer can do')

See, that's the ugly secret about this whole thing. Whatever distant, limited utility this algo framework might have can be accomplished by a human police officer in about the same amount of time Konerko takes to decide to swing at an incoming fastball... Yet the computer does this LESS efficiently in significantly MORE time, throwing off 'signals' that very well may be cited as the basis for draining already stretched police resources, chasing nothing more substantive than a ghost in an algorithmic machine. These very same phantom 'signals' would be immediately (and almost subconsciously) weeded out by your human brain, yet to a computer algorithm- that only understands numbers and not the more organic motivations of men- those things become infused with a fictitious 'meaning' and apparently, Chicago police resources will be expended acting on this nonsense...

Perhaps many, many, many moons from now, as Moores Law flexes and bends our processing capabilities into shapes we cannot conceive and our ability to gather relevant information is unimaginably improved over what it is today, then yes, there might come a time to examine something like 'Predictive Analysis'- but even then, only for VERY broad, marginal purposes. As it stands today, foisting Predictive Analysis onto the Chicago PD is akin to a 18th Century Scientist trying to develop a flying space machine using steam engines and wrought iron (and in the process, draining gold from an already broke town treasury.) Unlike the early aviators, though, banging our heads against the proverbial brick wall with this 'Predictive Analysis' is not building any sort of technical foundation upon which to improve, since the question it seeks to answer changes hour to hour, minute to minute, for reasons that only the perpetrators involved can explain.

The blog comments limit my long-windedness, so I'll just sum it up with this. A well-intentioned fraud is being perpetrated on the police officers of Chicago, at a time when we can't afford to be burning resources by indulging these whimsies. Please, do your own research on this, draw your own conclusions and for gods sake, to the law enforcement officers out there, whatever you do, DO NOT let the information you're given from 'predictive analysis' override your own intellectual processes. Just totally ignore anything 'predictive analysis' tells you. Your human brain is worth 10,000 of those programs.

1/22/2011 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous The People of Haiti said...

Under Brett Goldstein of the Predictive Analysis Unit, we are very pleased that you have finally accepted the credibility of VOODOO..

1/22/2011 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Magic computer scam raping the taxpayers money.

1/22/2011 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

1/22/2011 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's how the science works right here

where he at?? There he go!

1/22/2011 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Duh. This is CompStat, ala Rudy Giuliani's NYPD circa 1994-2001. I think the software will run on a Pentium II.

1/22/2011 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need a leader who will look out for the safety of officers on the street. We need a leader who will go to bat for us. Last year we buried too many good officers. These fucking EXPERIMENTS are literally killing us. This predictive analysis unit, along with the ridiculous pod rooms, are just another way for the brass to show the public ''See! We don't need more officers on the street! Look at this cool technology! It does the work of dozens of officers! No need to hire any more! We've even got STATISTICS to show how effective these new cutting edge strategies are! What? How do they work? Um........'' Any police officer working in this unit needs to look in the mirror. You are jeopardizing the lives of hardworking men and women by assisting in the LIES that cameras and statistics make the streets safer. MORE POLICE MAKE THE STREETS SAFER! Predective Analysis Unit, please sleep the poor sleep of cowards and traitors. The rest of you, stay safe.

1/22/2011 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Hey SCC!

Found this little gem in the comments section of this j-fled tongue bath-o-rama. How the censor-monkeys let this one slip by we'll never know. (no banana for them!)

"Why forecast crime if you're not able to prevent it? Foolish waste of money and manpower. The taxpayers are not amused."

WELL DAMN AND SHIT-FIRE!

There's actually a citizen out there that has been paying attention and is calling bull-muthafuckin' shit on j-fled and brett the boy blunder's Opera of Fuckery.

We can call it "Tears of The Ass-Clowns" or "A Desperate Fuckin' Cry For Help."

No worries. These two fools can hit all the high notes without a problem.

Frank Main should be banned from ever again striking a key stroke on a PC or lap-top and clicking *send*.

He may as well be j-fled's personal ass wiper and tongue bath boy.

Man! These muthafuckahs are really trying hard to peddle their particular brand of crazy!

Beat it! We're stocked full to the ceiling with that bullshit! Sell crazy somewhere else.

Tip of the hat to the fed up citizen for telling it like it is.

1/22/2011 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not a Crystal Ball, it's a Fushigi. It'll amaze your friends. Fushigi, You can do tricks with it. Watch it as it appears to float, Fushigi. It's like magic, Fushigi!
Pronounced~ Foo-Shee-gee

Ooooo-Aaaaaah

1/22/2011 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous karnak said...

i predict the supernintendo will be out of a job in march...beware the ides

1/22/2011 01:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retiring Deputy Superintendent Dugan said it best in his retirement speech, "This department will hopefully return to its better days when this joke of an experiment is over."



Aaahhh, but a few short months ago, YOU "Mr." Dugan were gulping the kool-aid. Face it, you sold your soul to j-fraud, it didnt pan out quite the way you expected, now, youre gone. Enjoy Retirement... get a hobby, take up golf, do something... but stay away from here.

1/22/2011 02:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually it is true..

1/22/2011 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't Goldstein Tom Cruise in real life? I mean, we really do have a pre-crime unit, right?

It's a shame that there are so many talented writers that have no common sense.

1/22/2011 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So since they "knew" a shooting would happen soon, did they assign more officers to that block? If not the shooting victim should sue for negligence. What is the point of "knowing" something will happen and then do nothing about it?

Signed,

A Chicago Police Wife

1/22/2011 03:23:00 AM  
Blogger Phil Schitz here said...

I love the Dugan quote!

1/22/2011 04:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree even a broken watch is right twice a day also.

1/22/2011 04:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a thought.. reward your workers and keep them on the streets where they want to be... give them good people to work with and kept the dogs in the dog house.

1/22/2011 06:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what happened with the little nugget of information the swami gleaned from his crystal ball. Apparently, the Genie and crew determined that a robbery was going to take place in a 1 mile square area 3 minutes before the crime occurred(BFD). Was that information sufficient to stop the crime from occurring or helpful in apprehending the offenders? Again, apparently not, otherwise Main and Goldstein and J-Fled would have been harping about preventing the crime. The point is if you have a piece of info or intel and it neither prevents the crime nor assists in arresting the offender, so what. It is useless info generated at the expense of having a police officer doing actual deductive police work which has proven to be effective in both prevention and apprehension.

1/22/2011 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this twit intelligent enough to understand just how much of a joke he is to the real police.

1/22/2011 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey - it's a no brainer. Three minutes is the average time a call of shots fired comes in and the time the body is verified by a unit on the scene, hence the correct prediction that they are refering to of a person will be shot some where on a south side street. Ask them to predict where the body will hit the floor at 2153hours on 30 JAN 2011 and see how accurate they can be.
When you sit back and note that 7 calls of shots fired in a 45 second span of time at 6131 s Aberdeen, you are going to be accurate better than 75% of the time that it will result in a person being shot at that location 3 minutes later.

1/22/2011 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of silly, stupid people. How about that new judge in 44? Fletcher better not go too far or that one won't know what in the hell to do.

1/22/2011 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give me the old Irish Captain ( with the red nose) coming to roll call with his home made pin map.

1/22/2011 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's 0700 hrs , Saturday , temps rising from sub zero chills to 20s, eating a bagel with cream cheese and confirmed above stated stats with Tom Skilling. My prediction is a shooting in 10 sector of the 11th District tonight. You guys several hour notice go get them. Gotta run and fill a slip for for OT incase i am right. I can hold the slip if you want to put me in for merit detective in the next class( 2015), never mind retiring in 2013.

1/22/2011 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frank Main is not a reporter teeming with a great deal of integrity, nor, for the matter does his sidekick, Fran Spellman.

How the fuck the newspaper in this county get away with righting half truths, twisted facts, believable lies and just a ton of yellow journalism is absolutely beyond my understanding.

Then on top of it, these reporters actually believe in their own self-importance!

Interesting that while the newspaper like to write about restricting the Bill of Rights of a wide variety of issues, they don't like it when you talk about restricting the freedom of the press.

Frank, you are a poor excuse for a productive member of society. I would have respect for you if you didn't live in your ivory tower and had a hard working job.

1/22/2011 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember that fat old detective at DD HQ? He was the "Review section" for Robbery, Burglary, etc.

Compare reports, and issue crime patterns. Years of experience, cognitive awareness, and "bang" you got a hit off a pattern.

No bits, no bytes, just common sense.

Seems to be lacking these days.

Happily, Gladly - RETIRED!

1/22/2011 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous MAKE SURE TO VOTE said...

Hey SCC please keep reminding the members that we have two major elections coming up
F.O.P.
Mayors. RACE
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE AND MAKE SURE TO VOTE! !!!!!!!!!

1/22/2011 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it an inside or an outside shooting? :-)

1/22/2011 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sun Times regrets the error, the paragraph should have actually stated;
"...It was a bit like a scene from “PeeWee's Playhouse” the 1984 Paul Rueben variety show that featured perversely altered humans with special powers to predict and portray silliness on a juvenile level. "

We apologize for this error and hope has not caused any misrepresentation of Steve Spielberg, the Tom Cruise fan base and 20th Century Fox/Dreamworks Films.

1/22/2011 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aaahhh, but a few short months ago, YOU "Mr." Dugan were gulping the kool-aid. Face it, you sold your soul to j-fraud, it didnt pan out quite the way you expected, now, youre gone. Enjoy Retirement... get a hobby, take up golf, do something... but stay away from here.

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Im sure you "actually" knew Dugan. Moron

1/22/2011 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1/22/2011 02:13:00 AM

You are an idiot. The man was launched for telling the idiot superintendent how it should be. Worked for Dan for years, treated us blue shirts better than the white shirts. Go get a clue dogass.

1/22/2011 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the joke is finally over then bring back Dugan as 1st Deputy. Bring out the big broom and sweep out all the trash from Jody Weis.

1/22/2011 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I predict many bosses reshuffled.demoted when new supt. takes over! Another prediction the boss driving this police equipped camry hybrid will have to stop all the personal errands on city time as she will be moved from her cush do nothing spot soon!

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/106633120/2008_Toyota_Camry_HYBRID.jpg

1/22/2011 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But Brett is Shortshank's guy. That makes Bret AMAZING! So says KB. It must be true.

1/22/2011 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retiring Deputy Superintendent Dugan said it best in his retirement speech, "This department will hopefully return to its better days when this joke of an experiment is over."



Aaahhh, but a few short months ago, YOU "Mr." Dugan were gulping the kool-aid. Face it, you sold your soul to j-fraud, it didnt pan out quite the way you expected, now, youre gone. Enjoy Retirement... get a hobby, take up golf, do something... but stay away from here.

WRONG!!!!! Why do you think he got demoted...because he was the only one standing up to Weis and trying to put this Department back on the right track. I hope he comes back as Supt and straightens this Department out !!!!

1/22/2011 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"opera of fuckery"--- that is classic---- I can predict that all my jobs will be 1p, 3f, 5f, 11e, 14p, or 19p tonite---- if I tragically have to pull a harry terry number it will be the last job of the night guaranteed.... go hawks, da bears, and a big one fingered salute to possum head.....

1/22/2011 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly, as a young recruit, I had been misinformed that this job wasn't rocket science!

1/22/2011 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In fairness,like many of us, even admittedly SCC and Nothside, we welcomed JFled (prior to that moniker) as possibly a breath of fresh air. Despite his Feeb background we felt that now perhaps we can get away from the Shortshanks lock-step obedience and clout driven department.
Adopting a wait-and-see attitude it didn't take long and Ray Charles could see that he is/was by far the worst 'soup' of record.
Dugan was in the command structure and backed him at first.
When he finally continually spoke up, disagreeing with most of their insane policy(ies) he was considered as not being on their team. While still respecting his talents and dedication they decided to launch him but not necessarily hurt him. They sent him to ORD as a Luey, despite his request to be a field Lt. in any fast district upon learning his fate.
He finally retired rather than continue to drink the 3M and JFled Kool Aid.
The 400+ people at his party, (mostly former and present day coppers) were there to honor his entire law enforcement career and friendship.
He ended his gracious speech with the JFled reference... "This department will hopefully return to its better days when this joke of an experiment is over."

Let's hope that our dedication and resolve can get us through the 'damage control' mode we'll need after JFled is gone. We've fought tougher battles over the years. We'll survive this, 'joke of an experiment' too, I'm sure, only because we are... "Chicago's Finest!"
God Bless the CPD

1/22/2011 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous De Oppresso Liber said...

Look into my eyes, your getting sleepy, very very sleepy, that's it, nice deep sleep.
The city is safe, we don’t need more police, we need more & higher taxes, I need a raise and yes, more gold braid. Now go and vote for Emmanuel. When I snap my fingers you'll wake up refreshed & wide awake. SNAP SNAP!!
See, feel better?

1/22/2011 09:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the people bashing DD, I'm sure you never worked for him because the people who have worked for him hold him In a much higher regard. Long live DD and the best of luck in your future endeavors.

1/22/2011 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need to just rename our local papers "Pravda" and be done with it.

They are nothing more than Daley/Machine propaganda tools.

Street cops with pins on maps predicted more, years ago, than this new politically connected "director" ever has.

There is a place for some measure of intelligence led policing, but this certainly is not it.

"I can tell you how I do my magic, but I don't want to tip off the criminals."

My God, what bullshit these people will eat and call it caviar.

1/22/2011 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

was the crystal ball j-fled head?

1/22/2011 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ot...But funny picture...go on line to Chicago Trib and go down to Chicago land, where the chinese president is gretting kids at Walter Payton prep. en-large picture...There is Daley in the corner trying his hardest to Sqeeze thru everyone...he's trying to get to the front!!! No one is paying attention to him and the Chinese guys are taller then him!!!! LMAO!!!

1/22/2011 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, Dugan's quote was even better: "Soon this TERRIBLE experiment will be over." That almost made up for the honor guard/national anthem starting off his dinner.

1/22/2011 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pay a patrolman commanders pay in a unit , assign that hashat to 11 and let him predit and prevent crime inthe 11th district

another political appointment in a do nothing job

dump all the exempts assigned to districts and let captains run the districts at captains pay , captains pension and a car is the perk ,that's a start to eliminate GOLD BRAID political bs

1/22/2011 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger Spartan said...

Did this miracle unit predict that we will not have supplies for our districts because the City hasn't provided the necessary funds??? Shameless morons...

1/22/2011 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It has been said that even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

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Especially when the squirrel is sitting on a pile of nuts. Amazing!

Not a Cop,

1/22/2011 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Dave; Albany Park Citizen said...

Talk-to-the-dead charlatans and other psychics play the same game; make hundreds of predictions and trumpet the occasional hit that will inevitably happen.

The Batman cartoon was pretty damned funny though.

1/22/2011 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I predict a shooting is going to happen in one of the shit-hole neighborhoods in the city tonight.

I also predict the projectile will cool faster tonight, than it would on a hot summer night, on it's flight to striking an innocent bystander.

Not a cop! Be cool!

1/22/2011 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

See how smart the superintendent really is ? If you will only give him more time to prove to all of you that he is way smarter, and a better law enforcement officer, than all you cave men. He is the cutting edge in law enforcement, and really a nice guy.
Now all he has to do is formulate this into his resume.

1/22/2011 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tongue bath...LMAO!!! To funny

1/22/2011 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't the Unit in operation as we lost so many police lives in 2010? It is offensive to hear these people try to justify their jobs (Goldstein) and pad their resume (Weis) with this vodoo "science." The only crime it predicts is a gigantic deceptive practice against the Department and taxpayers. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.

1/22/2011 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: State Bankruptcy Option Is Sought, Quietly

Policymakers are working behind the scenes to come up with a way to let states declare bankruptcy and get out from under crushing debts, including the pensions they have promised to retired public workers.

But proponents say some states are so burdened that the only feasible way out may be bankruptcy, giving Illinois, for example, the opportunity to do what General Motors did with the federal government’s aid.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/business/economy/21bankruptcy.html

1/22/2011 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I predict that it will be bellow freezing. A citizen within a half mile radius and a one mile circumference of North Ave/ Central Park corner will blow a hose.

1/22/2011 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retiring Deputy Superintendent Dugan said it best in his retirement speech, "This department will hopefully return to its better days when this joke of an experiment is over."



Aaahhh, but a few short months ago, YOU "Mr." Dugan were gulping the kool-aid. Face it, you sold your soul to j-fraud, it didnt pan out quite the way you expected, now, youre gone. Enjoy Retirement... get a hobby, take up golf, do something... but stay away from here.

1/22/2011 02:13:00 AM

Don't you love it when they get pushed to the side and THEN AND ONLY THEN do they renounce the system that made them.. Asskissers all!!

1/22/2011 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The blog comments limit my long-windedness, so I'll just sum it up with this. A well-intentioned fraud is being perpetrated on the police officers of Chicago, at a time when we can't afford to be burning resources by indulging these whimsies. Please, do your own research on this, draw your own conclusions and for gods sake, to the law enforcement officers out there, whatever you do, DO NOT let the information you're given from 'predictive analysis' override your own intellectual processes. Just totally ignore anything 'predictive analysis' tells you. Your human brain is worth 10,000 of those programs.

1/22/2011 12:30:00 AM

Usually the long winded posts are just some windbag spouting off. Your post was well written and informative. Unfortunately J-FLED didn't have the information you provided when he allowed this sham to proceed. But, that is how he has run the whole Department, isn't it?

I'm not a pharmacist and shouldn't be running the counter at Walgreen's. I'm not a mechanic and shouldn't be running the line at Ford. J-FLRED was never a police officer and shouldn't be running The Chicago Police Department. All of these examples are dangerous and someone could get killed. Oh wait, someone did.

RIP Officers. The politicians and most of the public may have forgotten your sacrifice, but we will not.

1/22/2011 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SOOOO.... Profiling an offenders type, say race for example, based on a variety of factors is illegal but predicting, well that's a whole other ball of wax. It's all legit

1/22/2011 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan Dugan was a good guy, not a perfect one, but a good one. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he didn't drink the kool-aid but just tried to make things as tolerable as possible for us by taking that position? Ease up on the guy, there are plenty of other bosses who really deserve our ire.

1/22/2011 11:26:00 AM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

"Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account."
[Everyone in the room applauds]

1/22/2011 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All this clown has to do is say, "hey, a shooting is going to happen at so-and-so location and so-and-so a time, deploy officers there, and then when no shooting happens because the officers are there he says, 'see, we prevented a shooting.'"

1/22/2011 11:37:00 AM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

Goldstein/Weis showed the reporter their magic computer.

"The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and... "

1/22/2011 11:38:00 AM  
Blogger Schicklegroover said...

Stop wasting our money on this stupid unit and put it where we ALL know it really belongs...
A Ghostbusters Unit

1/22/2011 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the software will run on a Pentium II.

1/22/2011 01:05:00 AM



yep, and it runs around in circles.

1/22/2011 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't Goldstein Tom Cruise in real life? I mean, we really do have a pre-crime unit, right?

It's a shame that there are so many talented writers that have no common sense.

1/22/2011 03:21:00 AM



so, when is brett due for a pre-arrest experience?

1/22/2011 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They'd have us believe they have superpowers...put on a cape and fly around this city stopping all sorts of shit...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...Wizard of Oz....they want us to believe they are bigger,better,smarter,more capable...and that's why they get paid so much....buuuuullllllshit!

1/22/2011 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan Dugan made a profound comment at his retirement party. Mr Dugan said that when this experiment if finally over, then maybe this once great Police Department can return to normal. I agree with you Dan and keep your calendar open so that you are available to return as our 1st Deputy or even better. God bless you Dan if you choose to do something else with your retirement.

1/22/2011 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Life long chicagoians know the biggest predictor of shootings, gang disturbances, and the city going up for grabs is the weather and opportunity. Goldstein and the carperbagger superintendente would'nt know that. Since we can't do anything about the sun shining or the weather getting above 50degrees, how bout using goldsteins salary and the budget for that fake unit, whose information couldnt be used as probable cause for anything a patrol officer would try to affect on the street and get us help out here.

1/22/2011 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets be nice. Mr. Dugan just might be the next person to run the cpd. Dont count him out yet.

1/22/2011 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

1/22/2011 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree even a broken watch is right twice a day also.

1/22/2011 04:45:00 AM

a broken watch is right all the time, now wether the time is correct is up to the wearer

1/22/2011 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of the best CPD ideas come from TV and the movies.

1/22/2011 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP needs to educate the public. I keep hearing on every news and talk show how we get an 80% pensions with free medical after 20 years. No wonder we have no support.

1/22/2011 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Sun Times: less tongue, more teeth.

1/22/2011 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This crime prediction was probably
"developed" to deflect attention
from the "real" B.S. that the White
Shirts are perpetrating behind the
scene. Give the officers on the
street the power to fight crime and
arrest lawbreakers and back them,
not the perpetraters. Hell the
job of the Police is not to be
popular with the citizens but to
maintain law and order and protect
law abiding citizens from the thugs
who don't respect themselves, the
Police, or anyone else. And when
an officer makes a righteous arrest or shooting, give him or her
the benefit of the doubt, not the
offender. Let the officers do what
they are paid to do. Oh, and get
rid of the "gimmicks" and the
specially-modified Ouija Board, it
ain't working, even if it is running Windows 7 Professional.

1/22/2011 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It appears the the higher-ups at
headquarters have to much free time
on their hands which means some of
them could be elimated.

1/22/2011 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...and Dugan should know. He was one of the biggest Exempt Jokes out there, wielding Weis's sword with reckless abandon until he looked down and saw his own scrotum lying at his feet after messing with Lopez.
Did I mention here that Dugan & Jackson also dumped Eric Washington out of 011? Who's the joke on now, Danny? So long Dan, don't let the door hit YOU in the ass either!

1/22/2011 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous 016 District Section 8 said...

All I need are the lottery numbers! Please Commander Goldstein.

1/22/2011 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My crystal balls say Tobias got CCG not Ryan.

1/22/2011 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's cuz Tobias has the military background and security clearances needed to work with the Secret Service when the pres is in town. Ryan doesn't and it would take too long to get it. Oh wait. Ds downtown EB was turned down for his clearance so nevermind.

1/22/2011 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the science remains a mystery"...Ha!

I read that yesterday and laughed my ass off.

The pooches in the Chicago media don't ask any follow up? What fuckin' assholes. How typical.

A city thats been driven to the brink by a blood sucking, thieving, criminal family and they print this nonsense.

1/22/2011 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on, get off my ass. If you could get Commanders pay without having to work the street and get your hands dirty, wouldn't you do it? You are just jealous I could pull it off.

Brett....

ps: lets do lunch!

1/22/2011 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another Huberman Lets hope the new sup will disband that tax payer money wasting unit.

1/22/2011 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a f. Joke!

1/22/2011 02:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they can give me the winning
lottery number? What a Joke that unit
is !

1/22/2011 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another Bullshit unit that includes a 100K plus salary and take home car for a golden boy...

Useless, try doing Police work buddy, and no, that does not mean jumping on paper in 011 to make it look like you were out there.

1/22/2011 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like the FBI Profilers, you only hear about em when once in awhile they are close about some theory, never of their numerous misses and wild goose chases. Look how long it took these Einsteins to catch that goofy Chicagoland southsider Polock Unibomber. HA-HA-HA-HA-HA. Even a broken wristwatch is right twice a day. What a bunch of Con-Artist jerkoffs.

1/22/2011 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

super duper crime-solving computers batman!

1/22/2011 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT--

A Path Is Sought for States to Escape Their Debt Burdens

By MARY WILLIAMS WALSH

Published: January 20, 2011

Policymakers are working behind the scenes to come up with a way to let states declare bankruptcy and get out from under crushing debts, including the pensions they have promised to retired public workers.

Unlike cities, the states are barred from seeking protection in federal bankruptcy court. Any effort to change that status would have to clear high constitutional hurdles because the states are considered sovereign.

But proponents say some states are so burdened that the only feasible way out may be bankruptcy, giving Illinois, for example, the opportunity to do what General Motors did with the federal government’s aid.

http://www.nytimes.com/
2011/01/21/business/
economy/21bankruptcy.
html?src=busln

1/22/2011 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The PD in 23 in efficient, respects officers, gets midnight officers out quickly, is hard-working and gets the job done. She single-handedly raised over $18,000 for the Chicago Police Memorial Fund and is a decent person.

Her husband, who attended West Point, represents police officers, officer's family members and all military servicemen for FREE. He does not handle traffic cases.

ITK

1/22/2011 04:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like anything else of this nature, it's a tool. It's computer based, and given that the data entered into the system might either be out of date or unreliable, the results should always be taken with a grain of salt.

The old maxim still stands, Garbage In, Garbage Out. And simply selecting one "success" while ignoring the countless failures does nobody any good.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Doesn't mean I'd set my watch to it.

1/22/2011 04:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tell it like it is, Dugie! You the real man.

1/22/2011 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three minutes? J-fled needs at least 5 minutes head start to run away. They need to work on that.

1/22/2011 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fvck the gangbangers. If these guys are so smart how about they predict the next murder of one of us, so we can preempt THAT.

1/22/2011 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous CPDCOPPURR said...

My husband now retired from IBM Partner.... This is how they are doing it at the crystal bal unit.... They are taking data from arrest reports, and calls of service that are being tagged. They are analyzing the data to predict the future...... As he puts it, it is like Mutual Funds past performance cannot predict future performance. Even he the total Tech geek that he is that completely moved the whole IBM PC business and had 2 languages both in computer and English and Chinese to China said this is nothing but a HOAX. He hears me laugh as I read about this unit. He said summed it up in a nutshell.... You can guarantee when a moneky starts throwing his own shit at people while stuck in a cage in a zoo. Which people and at what time the monkey does this can't be predicted even in the monkey "has a regular high fiber diet".. LMAO...... Again this is more wasted man power that is nothing like witch hunting and reading spreadsheets and putting them together....... What I can say is that JFLED busted a nut when this article came out. MastersX3 was there to clean it up.

Thanks for the good chuckle about the "crystall ball-less"

1/22/2011 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,

I hope either you or some enterprising soul on this blog will put together a collection of all the diarrhea that has spewed forth from Jody Weis AKA Fucking yellow-bellied coward's cock-holster during his tenure here.

1/22/2011 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's gonna take a decade to fix this mess...if at all. I might have to collect Public AQid when I retire!!!!

1/22/2011 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1/22/2011 12:30:00 AM

I was gonna say that the predicative unit is a crock-o shite, but I do believe this poster has the bases just about covered lol...

1/22/2011 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody that claims he can develop a program to accurately predict violent human behavior is...full of it. Perhaps Jody has watched a little too much Matrix and not enough Cops... lol. Please just leave already!!

1/22/2011 06:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Policymakers are working behind the scenes to come up with a way to let states declare bankruptcy and get out from under crushing debts, including the pensions they have promised to retired public workers.

Unlike cities, the states are barred from seeking protection in federal bankruptcy court. Any effort to change that status would have to clear high constitutional hurdles because the states are considered sovereign.

But proponents say some states are so burdened that the only feasible way out may be bankruptcy, giving Illinois, for example, the opportunity to do what General Motors did with the federal government’s aid.

http://www.nytimes.com/
2011/01/21/business/
economy/21bankruptcy.
html?src=busln

1/22/2011 03:53:00 PM

#########################

These f-ing dirty politicians allow states to file bankruptcy and especially Illinois - I will have an attorney file a class action lawsuit the likes that these politicians have never seen.

These M-fers vote for all these earmarks and give aways. They pad their own pensions two, three and four times.

I will personally sue each and every one of these Illinois politicians until I have their homes and cars and every last penny in their bank accounts!!!!

M-fers!!!!!!

1/22/2011 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Dan Dugan made a profound comment at his retirement party. Mr Dugan said that when this experiment if finally over, then maybe this once great Police Department can return to normal. I agree with you Dan and keep your calendar open so that you are available to return as our 1st Deputy or even better. God bless you Dan if you choose to do something else with your retirement.'

Gosh...it took RETIREMENT for good 'ol Danny boy to have something PROFOUND to say? Better late than never, I guess....But To whoever posted the '1st Deputy' prayer, I wouldn't count on that. YOU might be a big 'ol Danny boy fan, but a lot of us remember that Dan was more than happy to do whatever Weis, 3M or Aunt Bea needed him to do, slashing and burning many a career around him as he did so.
I can't even imagine who'd want to spend their hard earned $ to hear anything Dugan would have to say regarding the CPD at this point. And did any of his former Gold Star colleagues attend this party to support Dugan? Jackson? Aunt Bea? The Screaming Skull? Anybody? I thought not. Cowards, the lot of them. God forbid, J-Fled or 3M had spies there to tell them which 'backstabbers' attended.....

1/22/2011 07:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT --

10 American Companies That Will Disappear In 2011

I am reminded of Alexander Solzhenitsyn's (he spent eight years in the Soviet Gulag) description of how some people in the last stages of starvation swell, balloon up so that their clothes and shoes won't fit -- to paraphrase, "...but there is no substance. It's all wind and water."

A typical example --

"Borders -

"The large bookstore chain is almost gone already. The only question remaining is whether it will be dissolved or sold to a related retailer like Barnes & Noble. It appears Borders has little choice other than to go bankrupt, given its debt and cash-flow situation. Two ominous signs for the bookseller: It says it's unable to pay some of its largest publishers for their books.

"Border's stock also dropped under $1 a share, a warning sign that the shares could eventually be delisted -- that is, if Borders lasts long enough. The company's 500 locations may have value to a buyer, but its name does not, being associated with little more than failure."

Now add in the 500 or more small, independent bookstores that Borders helped drive out of business, just to help complete the picture...

http://www.dailyfinance.com
/story/investing/10-
american-companies-that
-will-disappear-in-2011
/19798647/

1/22/2011 07:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I agree even a broken watch is right twice a day also.

1/22/2011 04:45:00 AM


But a watch that runs poorly is almost never right.

1/22/2011 07:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave Brett alone. This thing is meant to help balance the City budget. the City will claim this is a resounding success and a miracle and then sell it to police departments around the world.

It's about the money.

1/22/2011 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just want something to help me with the Trifecta at Arlington Park. If it can do that, I can retire early.

Who cares if one shithead shoots another shithead? I care only that police don't get shot.

Beyond that, the Trifecta is what I'd like to master.

1/22/2011 07:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Brett Goldstein, PAU said...

Predictive Analysis Predictions:

(1) The sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning.

(2) The Bears will play the Green Bay Packers tomorrow afternoon at Soldier Field in temperatures below fifty degrees Fahrenheit.

(3) There will be at least one murder in either Districts 011, 007 or 006 in the next 72 hours.

(4) PAU is not an insult to your intelligence. We are the real deal. However, we do not make predictions for the NYSE, NASDAQ, the lottery or horse racing. We cannot discuss our phenomenal success in predicting the precise times and locations of future violent crimes because it would compromise our secret methodology and pose a security risk. Trust us.

(5) I am a recent convert from Judaism to Santeria. For every cloven-hoofed animal we slaughter in our sacrifices in the parking lot behind Fort Fellatio, the city will record one less homicide.

(6) Please stop sticking needles into the chests of J-Fled voodoo dolls. Our fearless leader suffers from severe migraines and yeast infections as is.

1/22/2011 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All right, time for a little levity:



A pirate walked into a Pub, and the bartender said, "Hey, I haven't seen you in a while. What happened? You look terrible." "What do you mean?" said the pirate, "I feel fine."

"What about the wooden leg? You didn't have that before."

"Well," said the pirate, "We were in a battle, and I got hit with a cannon ball, but I'm fine now."

The bartender replied, "Well, OK, but what about that hook? What happened to your hand?"

The pirate explained, "We were in another battle. I boarded a ship and got into a sword fight. My hand was cut off. I got fitted with a hook but I'm fine, really."

"What about that eye patch?"

"Oh," said the pirate, "One day we were at sea, and a flock of seagulls flew over. I looked up, and one of them pooped in my eye."

"You're kidding," said the bartender. "You couldn't lose an eye just from bird poop."

"Well, it was my first day with the hook."

1/22/2011 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can he predict what school EB picks up his stepson from? Can he predict which seat in the Department car the stepson sits in? Can he predict how long EB babysits his stepson at headquarters?

1/22/2011 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The PD in 23 in efficient, respects officers, gets midnight officers out quickly, is hard-working and gets the job done. She single-handedly raised over $18,000 for the Chicago Police Memorial Fund and is a decent person.

Her husband, who attended West Point, represents police officers, officer's family members and all military servicemen for FREE. He does not handle traffic cases.

ITK

1/22/2011 04:10:00 PM

Methinks, if the person described is in fact a "PD" they should be fired. The "PD" or public defender's job is to represent the defendant, not to help the police. Somebody is very confused and has displayed their ignorance for all to see. Thank you for your ridiculous input....now go away and get some experience before sharing your know-nothing opinions with others.

1/22/2011 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the CBU......Crystal Balls Unit...has a nice ring to it, lots of possibilities with unit graphics, business cards, token gifts for visiting dignitaries. Just another bad joke, in a series of bad jokes in this department....actually Rod Serling of Twilight Zone fame would have a lot of material here....

1/22/2011 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a prime example of the nonsense hype this dept spews out on a daily basis. No wonder our dept/city can't pay its bills so that we can have copy paper and printer cartridges. We are too busy paying pretend cop computer geeks "director's pay". This should be on the top ten list for the next supe to deep-six.

1/22/2011 08:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Dan Dugan made a profound comment at his retirement party. Mr Dugan said that when this experiment if finally over, then maybe this once great Police Department can return to normal. I agree with you Dan and keep your calendar open so that you are available to return as our 1st Deputy or even better. God bless you Dan if you choose to do something else with your retirement.

1/22/2011 12:19:00 PM

Only if the pension is solvent.

1/22/2011 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Stop wasting our money on this stupid unit and put it where we ALL know it really belongs...
A Ghostbusters Unit"


It's already been done...

http://www.chicagoparanormaldetectives.com/

1/22/2011 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does Goldstein need a take home car? Does he rush to crime scenes at 0300 hrs? And if he actually does, for what? why? That's what cmdrs from det units do and district comdrs., not some guy who sits behind a desk all day playing on his computer.

I really want to know because our unit doens't even have any copy paper because the city isn't paying it's bills, but we can give the computer guy a take home, city gased-up vehicle?

1/22/2011 08:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He said, exactly: "when this terrible experiment is over."

It brought down the house.

1/22/2011 08:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of Kool-Aid, has anyone viewed this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAwEUXSB1t0&feature=related
Hopefully, anyone who recently took the test doesn't buy it.

1/22/2011 09:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im surprised that no one noticed in the picture, that arrogant J fled was flexing instead of pointing to a screen. Remember to vote for mayor and for FOP Vote Shields

1/22/2011 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If only 23% of cops are registered to vote, that means only about 2,000 cops are voting. Of those, plenty will be the kiss asses working for the Machine, so you can see that they don't care what we say.

Our pensions will be gone. The contributions we made when they let it go bankrupt might not come back to us.

Think about that as you sit on your hands and do nothing.

1/22/2011 10:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about gang Banger shot on Fullerton/central park nothing about the crystal ball expecting that

1/22/2011 10:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Policymakers are working behind the scenes to come up with a way to let states declare bankruptcy and get out from under crushing debts, including the pensions they have promised to retired public workers."


When Injustice Becomes Law, Rebellion Becomes Duty.

1/22/2011 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous noone90210 said...

Only God knows the future, which includes crime.

1/22/2011 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would ANYONE be in favor of ANY of the recent bosses coming back to run the Department as Supt. Or 1st Deputy? They've all already proved their incompetence in running the Dept. correctly by their argueing, fighting, backstabbing, politicing, lieing, etc; among one another, producing overall FAILURE, all on their part collectively. Not one of them is NEARLY as smart or capable of true Leadership as they think they are, and all were put in place because of their political connections, and definately not because of their intelligence or brilliance.

1/22/2011 11:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are all the districts going to this "no more 99 cars on 3rd watch" thing??
Great for officer safety, but terrible for getting time off!

1/22/2011 11:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I know about Dugan is that he made the desk people go down to one person on the desk, plus the non existant secretary. 38 reports a night, phones, and a 15 min stuff ur face lunch. The desk job sucks and so does Dugan. Im outta here.

1/22/2011 11:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC~

Take a look at the University of Chicago Magazine Jan-Feb 2011 - you are mentioned in a topic-related article "Byte Cop," featuring Brett Goldstein. To this guy's credit, he states in the article "You can't underestimate the guys' relationship with the community." It goes on to say he has invited skeptical beat cops to visit his office to discuss how it works. How do we sign up as it seems most of us have not been invited.

Still, and we all know this, emotion and chaos are unpredictable by definition, right?

1/22/2011 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Methinks, if the person described is in fact a "PD" they should be fired. The "PD" or public defender's job is to represent the defendant, not to help the police. Somebody is very confused and has displayed their ignorance for all to see.

Not the original poster.

Defending your client doesn't require being a loathsome prick, a fact that many lawyers seem to forget or simply never knew. In fact, many lawyers would better represent their client if they were not loathsome assholes, whom juries dislike as much as cops.

More flies with honey than vinegar and all that.

Just like every cop isn't gonna do their best work by trying to be a hardass.

1/23/2011 01:36:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

We predict that assorted fauna will curiously sniff the final resting places of the maestros conducting the current opera of fuckery at CPD.

We also predict that those same creatures will feel compelled with sudden urgency to squat and or lift a leg...

We read that the young and tender Goldstein said that he has invited field officers to come visit him so that he can show them how they're all wrong about the crystal ball unit.

...No doubt he'll be serving a cheese cube and cocktail weiner platter with plenty of kool-aid.

We'll call and make our reservation.

1/23/2011 05:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does Goldstein need a take home car? Does he rush to crime scenes at 0300 hrs? And if he actually does, for what? why? That's what cmdrs from det units do and district comdrs., not some guy who sits behind a desk all day playing on his computer.

---------------------

Meanwhile, other divisions have been stripped of all but one car, with no take homes cars at all, so that Goldstein and each SWAT member can have a take home.

It's not that I dont value SWAT or recognize that what they do is a trained skill, but the attitude that SWAT and MSF ARE the CPD, that they are the tip of the spear, somehow being the 'ooorah' answer to all the criminal woes in the city, is just stoopid.

1/23/2011 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bea Cuello was at Dugan's Party and did say a speech on his behalf.

1/23/2011 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My ouija board is telling me that J'Fled is on his out of town. My ouija board is telling me J'Fled will go the way of that detective from the OJ case that moved to Idaho or Montana. Mark something. Like right now, I can't even remember J'Fleds real first name and that's a good thing.

1/23/2011 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dugan? Did he think everyone had alzheimers or do you just a free fuckyounotme at your retirement party? Where does he think the term "warriors" as we so faceciously use it on this blog came from anyway? It came from you Mr. Dugan. It came from you trying to line up the department, meaning us, behind this jerk-off, loser, nitwit, get-a-clue (and some balls while you're at the dignity store). You can drive him to the Dignity store Dugan and see if you can get yours back.

1/23/2011 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frank Main is the primary reason I long for the demise of the Sun Times. I'm a citizen; Main's reporting on my neighborhood consists of reprinting faxes from a single lunatic who calls himself Logan Square Concerned Citizens. I and neighbors have pointed out to Main that this "organization" is one person, but for some reason, we never get a response. Lazy sack of shit--and when I think of all the good reporters who are out of a job.

1/23/2011 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I know about Dugan is that he made the desk people go down to one person on the desk, plus the non existant secretary. 38 reports a night, phones, and a 15 min stuff ur face lunch. The desk job sucks and so does Dugan. Im outta here.

1/22/2011 11:43:00 PM

007 must not have gotten the memo I guess. Plenty of desk people and also a secretary or 2.

1/23/2011 06:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frank Main is the primary reason I long for the demise of the Sun Times. I'm a citizen; Main's reporting on my neighborhood consists of reprinting faxes from a single lunatic who calls himself Logan Square Concerned Citizens. I and neighbors have pointed out to Main that this "organization" is one person, but for some reason, we never get a response. Lazy sack of shit--and when I think of all the good reporters who are out of a job.

1/23/2011 03:18:00 PM
--------
I know exactly who you mean. He throws the same crap around at the police like he's some big shot.

1/24/2011 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why does Goldstein need a take home car? Does he rush to crime scenes at 0300 hrs? And if he actually does, for what? why? That's what cmdrs from det units do and district comdrs., not some guy who sits behind a desk all day playing on his computer.

I really want to know because our unit doens't even have any copy paper because the city isn't paying it's bills, but we can give the computer guy a take home, city gased-up vehicle?

1/22/2011 08:47:00 PM

(1) But, if we don't give Brett Goldstein that big money and a car, he would leave for private industry where he could make 400K a year.

(2) We need Dan Dugan to lead us and save us.

(3) The sun rises in the east.

Of the three declarations, pick the two outrageous, outlandish, and nonsensical lies.

1/24/2011 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of the three declarations, pick the two outrageous, outlandish, and nonsensical lies.

1/24/2011 02:12:00 PM



do i get a prize if i pick two wrong answers?

1/26/2011 10:19:00 AM  

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