"The NRA Does Not Like Me"
Nice quote tucked away at the end of this Channel 2 story:
On Sunday morning, McCarthy attended mass at St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn-Gresham neighborhood, where he revealed another part of his philosophy about cutting crime.
“The police cannot arrest our way out of crime. It’s got to be done on a different level,” McCarthy said. “It’s got to be done in recognition of the moral authority of the community to change behavior of criminals.”
The Rev. Michael Pfleger and the congregation at the church applauded at McCarthy’s remarks.
“The NRA does not like me, and I’m OK with that,” he continued.
Someone couldn't warn McCarthy about Pfleger and his race baiting antics? Honest to pete, the exempt structure still in place must be steering him to all the wrong places and laughing behind his back.
But back to the matter at hand. We like the NRA. In fact, we're joining up. You ought to, too:
But back to the matter at hand. We like the NRA. In fact, we're joining up. You ought to, too:
And speaking of joining, the Illinois State Rifle Association is always looking for members.
Both organizations will like you just fine and send you all sorts of stuff to remind you how much they like you. Unlike Pfake Pfather Pfleger who would rather make you a victim every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Labels: gun issues, silly people
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
111 Comments:
The NRA has a cheaper rate for the police. You still might be able to get a life time membership for $300.
Here is the link but it needs to filled out by a current life time member.
https://www.nravalidate.org/
Talk to one of the range guys, or Area 1 property crimes afternoons if you need a life member. Use the pax line and leave a message.
It pays for itself with the magazine and gun insurance. It is also tax deductible since we are police and can be claimed as a trade publication (not as a charitable donation).
Any respect I had for this goof is long gone. I'm with the NRA, I don't like you either.
I'm a life long catholic, a twenty year vet of the CPD, a fifteen year member of the NRA, and a five year member of the ISRA and I don't like Pfleger. Are you okay with that? Because I am! However, I am willing to bet that Pfleger would have a problem with it.
Well 49 states can't be wrong can they?
With Illinois having the toughest gun laws people need to ask themselves why aren't the criminals in Chicago flocking to other states in droves where things like open and concealed carry permits are allowed?
Why isn't the crime higher in those states than it is here?
Why does Chicago have one of the highest crime rate per 100K people if the gun regulations are working?
If the ability to carry a gun causes high crime there's 49 states out there with less restrictive gun laws they should have higher crime rates than us according to the gun control propagandist.
Maybe the entire gun control issue is just a distraction away from the real causes of the high crime rate
Think!
The NRA doesn't like you? Neither do we, Mac.
When some of your first orders of business are preaching with Father Phleger, publicly voicing your opinion against the 2nd Ammendment and lying about gang activity, you're not going to earn many fans of the rank and file.
Our superintendent sucks. Our new FOP sucks. And my wife doesn't.
That stupid comment about the NRA and the beachs being closed because of heat seals it for me. He sucks almost has bad as the last guy. That and Penny and Carothers are STILL a capt and a commander? Puppet. And I'm guessing he sold his soul to Rahm. Sucks. I'm so done. 3 years, out!
been a member for years. you don't have to agree with 100% of everything they do. for the most part (90%) they are fighting the fight that you and me don't have the time to.
great cause (2nd amendemt freedom)
also, its affordable ($25-$35 year) and you get good discounts to many stores and services.., a monthly magazine, $7,500 firearms insurance and for law enforcemnt $100,000 killed on duty life insurance. all included. and a free gift like a multi-tool, or bag etc.
It's sad to see our Sup. climbing into bed with a fake and phoney like phlegar. This guy is nothing close to religious and is nothing more than a charlatan that preys on the niave and dumb. mcCarthy did not have to throw in the NRA comment, but I guess he is more of a politician than a cop.
It would be nice someday to see a boss that did not "buddy up" with these phonies. Phlegar may be the worst of them.
BTW this is where mcCarthy lost me. (so he is anti-2nd ammendment freedom?)
many police under his command are NRA members. many others support the NRA's cause without being formal members. alot of P.Os have strong feelings about this stuff. why would you alienate or piss off a big chunck of your force.?
little ot...its taking the state police over 50 days to process foid card apps...dont get caught with ur pants down and have to go on no-pay status. the city would be more than ecstatic to have anybody take some pseudo-furlough days.
mccarthy just lost me. not for the NRA crack even though i'm a proud member (ISRA too), but for his association with pfleger. you are here to lead the police department, and kissing the reverands' asses is not required no matter what they tell you. i'm disappointed. pfleger DOES NOT LIKE US, he does not like YOUR TROOPS.
you like the NRA SCC? Yet you will not come out and support Conceal Carry? You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
Don't kow-tow to the race-baiter Pfather Pfleger, Sup.! I and many, many other coppers are life-members of the NRA and the overwhelming majority of coppers are strong supporters of the 2nd Amendment. Stop listening to the wrong advisors! Everyone with a gold star is there for political clout, not knowledge or ability. They are steering you the WRONG way! Get out and ride along with some BEAT CARS! You will learn the truth about Chicago and the CPD.
What does that even mean?
(longest rant comment ever)
I'm from another state, but moved here to take a job in the city.
Background: White collar guy, family man, boring life, my “record” consists of one traffic ticket since I started driving a billion years ago and now that I live here, in spite of the fact that I spent the better part of the last 20 years as a die-hard competitive shooter and gun safety instructor, legally prohibited from defending my family when walking the streets of the city I live in.
Back home, we had many officers who were members of our USPSA club. Hell, the local tac team used our private steel course to train a couple times a month. Sometimes, just for fun, they would even shoot against the club members on the poppers and plates to see who was faster (those guys were very good, too)... and ya know what? I spoke with all of them in great detail and there wasn't a single soul amongst them who was opposed to our gun rights! Not a damn one. If anything, they were rabidly in favor of honest citizens being armed. And now that I'm in "anti gun Chicago", so far my handful of casual chats on 'the gun thing' with CPD street officers have been no different. They all seem to strongly support my rights, too.
So just why is it that the men and women in uniform who are on the streets everyday, facing down all the anti-social bullshit we pay cops to deal with, are so quick to realize the necessity of allowing honest people the most effective means of self defense, while the ones who sit tucked away in office buildings drinking coffee and playing solitaire all day don't understand this? (now there's a question that answers itself...)
And more importantly, WHAT QUALIFIES these “administrators” to carry a gun themselves, yet claim that I, once vetted and permitted, shouldn't be able to do the same thing in lawful defense of my own brood?
Does Garry McCarthy- who presumably carries a sidearm yet thinks I'm “unqualified” to do so- does he think he can swing by a USPSA club and prove the validity of his position via demonstrated proficiency? Anyone think he'll be able to outshoot the club members? Anyone willing to bet on that? Shit, I'd bet the deed to my overpriced house in this dump of a city he couldn't outscore a random C Class shooter, yet he'd probably have the audacity to look that same person in the eyes and say he/she “isn't qualified” to own a firearm!
It's just ridiculous.
Yet another example of the colossal divide that exists between 'the officer on the street' and the career-climber politicians who somehow always seem to weasel their way into leadership positions in police stations around the country. I support blogs like SCC because they give a voice to the cops who are doing the job, rather than the “figureheads” who only exist to sit in office buildings and regurgitate bullshit fed to them by suit-and-tie assholes in City Hall.
Sorry, but this is the one issue that gets me going like no other... and why? Because I'm now a “criminal” for deciding that the lives of my family are worth more than the miserable criminal bastards who would harm them. The resume has been floated and at the first possible chance, Chicago will lose yet another 'provider' in terms of a high income earner leaving the city, because it values its rodent population more than its law abiding people.
I am a PROUD LIFE Member of the NRA!
I am also a USMC Veteran!
I believe in America and I know that without the SECOND AMENDMENT there would be NO OTHER ONES!
The FIRST thing Hitler,Stalin & Mao did was TAKE AWAY THE PEOPLE's WEAPONS. DO NOT BE SHEEP!
The 2nd Amed.-when SECONDS count, The Police are only MINUTES away! Rich Moravec
I met McCarthy, and my first impression is that the man is a salesman. And his product is bullshit. Where better to sell that stuff than St. Sabina where they've been buying bullshit for years.
McGruff needs to get his head out of his ass, the NRA has more law-abiding citizens in its membership than probably any other group in the US. They probably have more veterans also.
I'm a Life Member of the NRA and they also offer police training for the average copper.
But then, the average NRA member is not a professional victim, like these poverty pimps seem to love so much.
McNumbnuts.
The NRA doesn't like you?! WTF does that supposed to mean? The NRA doesn't give people problems who want to protect themselves, or protect the lives of their wives, or children, or family and friends. Well now I'm worried who DOES LIKE YOU? if pro police groups don't like you then who the fuck do you call a friend? Glad to see your picking up right where Jody left off. Insert foot in mouth. I gave you a chance, you remind me of the last guy. This place is a hot mess. nobody learns from mistakes.
I guess nobody cares about moral around here.
dont hold your breathe waiting for the community to do this.they know who is commiting the crimes.if the police do something they dont like,they holler.but they dont know anything when a brother does.
This always happens when a new head of an organization whether public or private. The kiss-ups start showing up and suggesting the new leader be 'watchful' of certain employees. Any good leader however would be cautious and learn for himself who or what to watch for.
McCarthy has a track record for gun control and is Anti-NRA as are all Democrat big-city police chiefs.
NJ.com
Newark police director is named chairman of gun control subcommittee for U.S. lobbying group
Published: Sunday, March 06, 2011, 5:00
By James Queally/The Star-Ledger
http://www.nj.com/
In January, McCarthy was named chairman of the Major Cities Chiefs Police Association’s subcommittee on gun control.
Earlier this year, Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) introduced legislation to reinstate the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which outlawed the possession, import or sale of gun magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. He said the bill, which was formally endorsed by the Major Cities Chiefs on Thursday, can only be helped by the support of people like McCarthy."
I firmly believe McCarthy is anti Right To Carry. If you choose to carry, don't retire before leosa applies to you.
Chalk up 3 more murders in 011 overnight.
And the "moral authority" is who? Father Pfleger? And all the Revruns? Is that what was implied? Because, if it is, they haven't changed a fucking thing in the past thirty years. In fact, it's worse and the blame should lie squarely on their doorsteps.
---not a cop
Politically, McCarthy is acknowledging what the media has dubbed "community leadership/activists".
Unfortunately, no one in the communities, like mine, see these fake pastors as leaders.
The real community leaders are not Fr. Phleger, or Jesse Jackson or the rest of the myriad of fake reverends, pastors who mug for the media and who the media go running to for "statments" at every chance.
The real community leaders are seldom on TV and prefer to stay out of the limelight. I know who the real leaders are in my community...most everyone does. The problem is the media and people like McCarthy don't take the time to find the real leadership, for if they did, they could really make an impact on community/race relations.
The fake pastor leaders are not respected by everyday community members. And real pastors in my community work with lay informal leaders to teach them non-violent ways to promote change. Real pastors CREATE genuine leadership in OTHERS, not themselves.
I like McCarthy's style, from what I've seen. I will respect him more if he takes the time to work with real grassroots leaders/community organizations and not the fake reverends who have been horrendous race baiters and poverty pimps for decades - time to end their reign.
Pleger is on Emanuel's Public Safety Committee, and in that capacity helped choose McCarthy,
ISRA (Bonfield-Kankakee) Open House June 25
McCarthy seems to be a very astute person, honed by his years in the upper ranks.I am sure he knows that he needs to make a connection with all sorts of individuals who are power players in Chicago, and the Rev Mike is indeed a power player. McCarthy hardly is a "goof" and I think the real good is the person who thinks so. Do not forget that the police superintendent is also a member of the Mayor's cabinet and must, to a certain degree at least, follow the directions of the mayor.New York and its mayors and police commissioners also do not like the NRA and do not cooperate with the retired concealed carry federal legislation. I have been warned by retired NYPD do not get caught with your weapon inside the city if you are retired or even active on vacation as you probably will be arrested . You can quote the law all you want, but you will be arrested. It will be interesting on McCarthy will handle this issue in Chicago.
This McCarthy guy is a joke. Why is he hanging out with thad fake father phlaeger??
He should be downtown making sue all is safe for tourists.
Jody Weis did a better job than this guy.
you like the NRA SCC? Yet you will not come out and support Conceal Carry? You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
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Are you drinking the bong water again? Or is your head so far planted up your ass you've been overcome by the fumes? We've supported Concealed Carry since before the inception of the blog and been a vocal and voracious advocate for the same for years.
Try clicking on a few of our posts labeled "gun issues" and try to keep up here. Asshat.
The NRA is the only group nationally that protects gun owner rights. I would further like to express that I am a very happy member.
When are these bosses going to figure out that the race baiting reverends in this shit hole city are what make this place a shit hole? Why to we always have to have a puppet boss that will bow down and kiss the ring of the masses of the non tax payer? WHAT A JOKE! Go back to Newark, let's get a boss with a sack.
was he told fo go there,invited orwent on his own. like he said ( its perception vs reality.)He has the answers, reality is sos.
Chicago coppers don't like you either.
After seeing this new McFib in action--"What is gang activity?", "The NRA doesn't like me.", his lips moving while Rahm is speaking and bending over to take it in the ass from Phleger, there is no better time to reinforce that the following things are all that matter:
1) The 1st and the 16th
2) Backing up your fellow officers
3) Not buying into the PR, rah-rah bullshit and ending up in the Fed pen
May God bless us all and St. Michael watch over us.
Chalkie was busy in 011 dropping 4 bodies in about 18 hours
I'm a life member of both the NRA and the ISRA. If someone is only going to join one of the two, they should consider the ISRA. They're the lead for all concealed carry laws in this state, and they're the main force combating the Anti's in Illinois. The NRA helps, and takes a lot of the credit, but the tip of the spear in Illinois is the ISRA.
Does Garry McCarthy- who presumably carries a sidearm yet thinks I'm “unqualified” to do so- does he think he can swing by a USPSA club and prove the validity of his position via demonstrated proficiency? Anyone think he'll be able to outshoot the club members? Anyone willing to bet on that? Shit, I'd bet the deed to my overpriced house in this dump of a city he couldn't outscore a random C Class shooter, yet he'd probably have the audacity to look that same person in the eyes and say he/she “isn't qualified” to own a firearm!
It's just ridiculous.
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Hey, I loved your long rant. You've hit the nail on the head...or should I say, the tin can off the stump?
Anyway, I am interested in becoming more proficient at shooting, while at the same time looking for a hobby. I'm CPD.
Are there any gun clubs or instructors you can recommend?
Thanks. And what do you think of that new small Ruger, I think the LSM? The pocket gun?
Guess how many NRA members are shooting up the west and south sides, NONE. I have been a life member since the late 1980's, a lot longer than I have been a police officer or a soldier. It is a fine organization that has nothing to do with the crime occurring on the streets of this or any other city. I have just lost any confidence in this man if he is going to pander to the leftists such as Phleger. We have heard this tired rant before, it was wrong then and it's just as wrong now. Criminals need to be controlled, not law abiding citizens.
"The NRA does not like me"...McPuppet...we dont like you! Hope all the coppers are watching an listening to this nonsense...McPuppet is not here to assist you...he is the ballerina's mouthpiece...and you know what the ballerina thinks of all of us...he is goning to squeeze us as much as he can so we have to negotiate for what we lost in the next contract...just watch brothers and sisters!
If your a gun owner and care about preserving your Second Amendment heritage,you must join the NRA or if in Illinois at least the ISRA.
kowtowing to the rev'runs and shit heads already. Atta boy McFibb...
Why would the NRA not like him? Does he violate the constitutional rights of Americas citizens or something? I mean, if a Police Officer violates someones rights under the constitution, you can get prosecuted twice for the same case right? sued and thrown in the slammer for a "perceived violation"... right? So why on earth would NRA not like this guy, and why would he be so damn proud of it??
I was in Newark, it's a fucking dump. At one time they led the country in armed carjackings, Im certain it's not much improved. Shit, matter of fact when I was training at Ft. Dix NJ, we were told to stay out of Newark. But then again, how many ex bosses have been hired from CPD to ruin other parts of the countries police forces.
little ot...its taking the state police over 50 days to process foid card apps...dont get caught with ur pants down and have to go on no-pay status. the city would be more than ecstatic to have anybody take some pseudo-furlough days
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call or send them an email. Advise them your the police and you will be moved along much quicker.
I sent an email and it was processed in days
Chalk up 3 more murders in 011 overnight.
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Big Deal....welcome to the westside recruit.
Great post.
That settles it, I am joining the NRA as a Life member.
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The NRA doesn't like you?! WTF does that supposed to mean? The NRA doesn't give people problems who want to protect themselves, or protect the lives of their wives, or children, or family and friends. Well now I'm worried who DOES LIKE YOU? if pro police groups don't like you then who the fuck do you call a friend? Glad to see your picking up right where Jody left off. Insert foot in mouth. I gave you a chance, you remind me of the last guy. This place is a hot mess. nobody learns from mistakes.
I guess nobody cares about moral around here.
6/11/2011 06:16:00 AM
If the NRA doesn't like our Supt., then who does? Handgun Control Inc? Sarah Brady? Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence? The Mafia? el rukns?
I am all for gun control, a firm grip, not too tight and breath control, squeeze until the bang happens. Repeat as often as necessary.
If 48 out of 50 states can have concealed carry in one form or another and if violence in Chicago is spiraling out of control and the powers that be here still insist on fooling the public into thinking they do not need guns, well, what the fuck? What are they afraid of, a bunch of thug shitheads getting buried at county expense? A Father Pfleger backlash?
That former marine who killed the thug over a dog crapping on his lawn has to be my hero of the decade. Several thousand more citizens like that and the gang shit will take a definite slowdown I feel.
When the average citizen is so sick of this shit that groups of them start leaving beaten bloody bodies of criminals all around the tide will have turned. Not before.
It's not just the NRA that doesn't like Shorty Mac. Nobody else does either. Another political hack Clown Cop Tool, J-Fled in a different package
2:02 a.m.
Well said Sir.
“The NRA does not like me, and I’m OK with that”
That would be because you are an idiot.
Would someone explain to this bozo in small, easily understandable words that large cities don't have GUN problems, they have GANG problems.
Let honest citizens carry and the cowards will find that victims can protect themselves quite well.
...what an idiot.Of all the churches he could have chosen from and he picks father numbnuts. Head cop you are an asshole,pure and simple. All good cops and God fearing people better watch this guy.He is showing himself as an ass faster than the previous guy did. I wouldn't trust him as far as I can spit.
Hey, boss, if you want to start "blowing up" gangs...why not start by calling out the gang-infested Ceasefire that provides paid (by you and me) summer jobs to gangbangers? Otherwise shut up.
I'm writing this goof off. Anybody going to that so-called church no longer has credibility.
Oh, and how are we doing on the 'we'll hunt down every last one of them' thug mob from last week? If I remember correctly only 3 of 15 so far? Progress report, please.
I might be a little slow--but the bad guys are going to carry guns anyway, right? So the right to CC will have no effect on them. But it WILL allow normal citizens to protect themselves, correct?
So what's the problem?
This way when one of the CPD takes his "cracking skulls" and "blow them up" bullshit rhetoric seriously and gets hung out to dry on youtube and indicted, he can go, but look Pfleger and I are friends, that wasn't really what I meant.
"The NRA does not like me"
Another comment in a long line of them where this fool thinks he's the center if everyone's universe.
Believe me McCheese, the NRA doesn't know who the fuck you are, nor do they give a shit about your insignificant ass.
little ot...its taking the state police over 50 days to process foid card apps...dont get caught with ur pants down and have to go on no-pay status. the city would be more than ecstatic to have anybody take some pseudo-furlough days.
i myself just had to re-apply. ISP got it to me in under 3 weeks. they will expedite for police. look up daily bulletin 18 apr 11 for instructions. i would post here but its LEO sensitive
"little ot...its taking the state police over 50 days to process foid card apps...dont get caught with ur pants down and have to go on no-pay status. the city would be more than ecstatic to have anybody take some pseudo-furlough days."
6/11/2011 12:46:00 AM
The 50 day timeline doesn't surprise me. However, when you send in your FOID renewal, it's a good idea to stick a business card in there identifying you as the police. The ISP FOID people have been known to fast track these applications in the past.
I hate to say it, but the more I hear out of McCarthy it becomes abundantly clear how he got himself pinched (and convicted) of getting into a verbal altercation with a couple of Cops back east.
This guy is a blowhard- think about it- how mouthy would you have to be to push another Cop into arresting you? And all over some B.S. ticket his daughter got?
Well there went any hope I had for our new super. It took him less then a month to spoon with phlegar. What a joke, why with all this crime is our "boss" attending service with that HEATHEN. If your going to make special visits to "special" people, why not visit some of the families of Police Officer's killed in the line of duty. Perhaps go visit Officer Cozzi who is a very good man rotting away in jail. Well McCarthy, you just sold your soul to Satan. I'll remember that every night at work.
ABout once a month I go to a differnt Catholic Church. It's kind of a hobby. I look around before Mass, light a candle, admire the artwork, etc.
About four years ago, I went to Mass at St Sabina. I am a white male, 50+ years old. Now it was not my way to worship, but that is not what got me. What got me was the fact that as I entered the church, two "ushers" made me open my jacket, apparently to check me for weapons. I asked them if they wanted to frisk me, and if as a Catholic whether I was welcome to take part in Mass and they apologetically backed off, but one of them kept an eye on me through the whole Mass. I was not the only white male in the congregation, but I was a new face. Could you imagine if a black guy got a visual frisk at St Joe's in Wilmette and had an usher stare him down through the whole Mass.
I emailed several members of St Sabina, including Fr Pfleger, about what had happened. I received a reply, (not from Fr Pfleger) accussing me of having a racist agenda, that I had delibrately came to mass and acted in a questionable and suspicious manner, etc. I would have been happy if they replied, hey we have security concerns, etc. I forwarded that email to several folks at the Arch Diocese, who never bothered to get back to me.
btw, I attended Mass two years ago at a closeby Catholic Church where I was actually the only white person in attendance and could not have been more welcome.
There is ALOT wrong at St Sabina !
"This group has gone to the top of the pile," he said. "We are going to arrest every member of that outfit … on whatever charges we can come up with. It’s going to be ongoing and relentless."
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GOD!!! If only I was a member of that gang I'd be a rich man in a couple of years!!
So, who's taking bets on when the first suit is going to be filed against McCheese?
To all Police Officers that have or plan on taking advantage of the Concealed Carry for LEO's (HR218) remember that it was largely due to the efforts and assistance of the NRA that this landmark legislation passed. While the National FOP was one of the lead agencies, without the help. both financial and political, that bill would NEVER have passed. And don't forget George Bush II. There is no dumbocrat that would have ever have signed it. The scummy likes of (the late) Fat-Teddy and Charles Schumer did and are doing whatever they can to undermine and reduce this bill.
Dumb J-Fled like move already!
Most coppers I know support the NRA and the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution!
Send this guy back to Jersey already!
Da Pelon
you like the NRA SCC? Yet you will not come out and support Conceal Carry? You talk out of both sides of your mouth.
6/11/2011 12:49:00 AM
SCC Mainpage, right side of the SCC Posts, just under the "Archives" section it clearly ststes: (SCC suports conceald carry.)
Reading is a fundamental skill, dumbass.
For all retired POs and good citizens. The city nows requires
a Chicago Firearms Permit (CFP)
CPD-31.577(7/10) and a Firearms Registration CPD-31.562(Rev.10/10).
You can call Gun Registration (ask to speak to a real PO) and ask them to send out the forms.
After over forty years of having legally registered firearms (duty and otherwise) the city couldn't even be bothered to let a retired PO know how the rules had changed and what was required. I am sure they would have eventually told me that I couldn't have guns in the city even though I am IROCC qualified.
The city is not your friend.
I just joined the NRA over that Communist/Socialist Statement!
He sounds like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, and Daley! Take away law abiding citizens right to protect themselves by use of firearms!
49 other states can't be wrong on legal conceal and carry laws!
In closing, fuck off bozo!
Da Pelon
Hey SCC,
How about including a link to the NRA.com?
It is an informative and eye opening website on the goings on in Springfield and Washington Congresses!
I was amazed at some of the bullshit articles and views they have exposed of the likes of the ACLU and other garbage anti-gun organizations!
They have great case laws and studies and current laws that work against the 2nd Amendment!
Then maybe some of our Liberal, Left Leaning Officers will see the Right light and join the NRA like the rest of us common sense thinking folks, who see garbage that should be exterminated on a daily basis!
McAsshole was handpicked by Rahm to be the superintendent. Did you think he would pick someone who was pro-law enforcement and pro-gun? Why would a communist pick an American patriot?
You people are easier to fool than kids.
Does anyone believe for a minute that the Chicago Police Department would get a superintendant? This jerk applied three fukin times! The department hasn't had a leader since well into the last century.
Honest question requires an honest answer. If an armed citizen shot a few of these flash mob offenders while under attack from them. Clearly self defense. The citizen was then fleeing the scene. How many of you hard chargers would pursue him? My report would read unk M/2 fled scene no further description and he would be in the victim's boxm
Two observations.
First, as a Roman Catholic, I would never identify St. Sabina (as it exists today) as a Roman Catholic church. "Father" Pfleger long ago turned it into an evangelical Protestant church that is only nominally Roman Catholic.
Second, SCC writes, "Someone couldn't warn McCarthy about Pfleger and his race baiting antics? Honest to pete, the exempt structure still in place must be steering him to all the wrong places and laughing behind his back."
In my opinion, McCarthy knew exactly what he was doing; and doubtless his visit to kiss Pfleger's ring and robe was endorsed by (and perhaps even suggested by) the Fifth Floor at City Hall. Let's not forget that beyond the tough talk at press conferences, the Emanuel Administration is a very left-wing north-shore political organization----the type that deep down abhors cops, blue-collar whites, etc. So it's not at all surprising that McCarthy did what he did. Just don't hold your breath waiting for him to show up in Mount Greenwood or Garfield Ridge.
How can we contact Supt. McCarthy to express our feelings,anyone got an email for him? I don't feel like attending St. Sabinas to see him. Also in front of the city council he said. "NRA and those kind of folks" what the fuck kind of comment is that. If he would have used that comment on any other civil rights oriented group, they'd be up in arms. He owes an apology to every legal gunowner. Also he's visited the fake revs and that nut Pleger, has he had any open houses in areas where taxes are paid!!!! Not taken.
I posted earlier about new forms required by CPD and city but I forgot to mention that I too am a proud NRA member.
Charlton Heston was a real man as was Joe Foss!
WHY I CARRY A GUN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMFhNcAmLLI&feature=share
For all retired POs and good citizens. The city nows requires
a Chicago Firearms Permit (CFP)
CPD-31.577(7/10) and a Firearms Registration CPD-31.562(Rev.10/10).
You can call Gun Registration (ask to speak to a real PO) and ask them to send out the forms.
After over forty years of having legally registered firearms (duty and otherwise) the city couldn't even be bothered to let a retired PO know how the rules had changed and what was required. I am sure they would have eventually told me that I couldn't have guns in the city even though I am IROCC qualified.
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Retired...please note, under HR-218 you do not need to have any paper work or city license.... except the state FOID card.....HR-218 is federal and the city can not require anything else.
“The police cannot arrest our way out of crime. It’s got to be done on a different level,”
Wrong. Trying to "arrest our way out of crime" is exactly what Rudolf Giuliani and his team tried in New York City in the nineties -- and it worked. This other old-time liberal bs on the other hand is exactly what has not and what does not and what will not work. (And I know, having lived for substantial periods of time in both cities and observed things first hand over many years.)
McScaredcat is afraid to end details of the people in the north side districts. He ended details for south side coppers yet some districts in the northside didn't have beat cars up because they are so short handed. Ask 020...they may be slow, but how do you not have a beat car for an entire tour? I wonder if the residents know this is happening to them.
Honest question requires an honest answer. If an armed citizen shot a few of these flash mob offenders while under attack from them. Clearly self defense. The citizen was then fleeing the scene. How many of you hard chargers would pursue him? My report would read unk M/2 fled scene no further description and he would be in the victim's box.....
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Only criminals run away from crime scenes. Hope that answers your question.
Anonymous said...
"little ot...its taking the state police over 50 days to process foid card apps...dont get caught with ur pants down and have to go on no-pay status. the city would be more than ecstatic to have anybody take some pseudo-furlough days."
6/11/2011 12:46:00 AM
The 50 day timeline doesn't surprise me. However, when you send in your FOID renewal, it's a good idea to stick a business card in there identifying you as the police. The ISP FOID people have been known to fast track these applications in the past.
6/11/2011 02:03:00 PM
I've applied for renewal 90 days before expiration and have not had a problem. Why not take that solution?
Any respect I had for this goof is long gone. I'm with the NRA, I don't like you either.
6/11/2011 12:14:00 AM
The NRA has good taste. G-MACK should return to Newark and take Tiny Dancer 9.5 and Phather Phlegmer with him. And if they would car pool with J-FLED and shanks for the ride out of town, it would be Christmas in June.
Anonymous said...
“The NRA does not like me, and I’m OK with that”
6/11/2011 12:43:00 PM
I am OK with being hated by all the jagoffs I've sent away. But the NRA protects my rights, unlike our elected leaders here and their toadies.
The NRA doesn't spray schoolyards with bullets; the NRA doesn't do drive-by shootings; the NRA doesn't stick up small businesses and then kill one or two for fun; the NRA doesn't enforce anyone's drug territory with murder.
Why the damn problem with the NRA? I don't get it. With responsible citizens carrying weapons we would have perhaps a dozen dead assholes these past two weeks and iPhones with their owners.
And that older woman who was pushed down the stair of the Fullerton El over someone else's iPhone might be alive or, at the very least, her killer might not be.
By the way, no arrest in that one as I recall. Who is going to be obliterated for that? Trail is growing very cold there.
The NRA is not the problem. Every thug gangbanger in the city IS. Make some new holes in those miserable bastards, don't vilify the NRA.
Nothing will be accomplished by banning assault weapons again or high capacity magazines.
An armed citizenry will accomplish much to restoring order here, not sleight of hand of our east coast boss.
Tippsville Garry, Sneed may kiss your ass because that is who she is. But a fair number of we citizens are not overly impressed with you either, the NRA notwithstanding. You see Garry, when you start panhandling with storefront reverends and activist priests, you are showing yourself to be just another political appointee pandering to the tiny dancer. You are showing us you are just another pol. I would like to see a police superintendent who frankly is edgy with the aforementioned types who have in part denegrated our city. Phlager has been in that church for decades and he has accomplished what? Someone tell me what credits can he boast of in that community? You go there to kiss his ring and what do you accomplish? I would like you to be your own man. The second place to get edgy is with your boss. The only way any superintendent is going to succeed in that job is to make the people you expect results from reasonably happy by defining the mission, staying on target and hold the fringe around the city and in city hall at bey. If you do not, you are going to be just another hump with his picture on the wall in a few years.
channel 7 sat. 10 pm news, Sup. stated, now we have the police in the right areas, now we need them to do the right thing.
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These officers always did the right thing!
Hello 10:13 AM.
I'm the long ranter guy. Here goes another long reply (lol)
Unfortunately, when I moved here to Chicago for professional reasons, I set aside my competitive shooting so I'm not really 'in the scene' here like I was in Nebraska. I am, however, an ISRA member and I'm quite confident that they will steer you to the right local club.
Action shooting is quite possibly the coolest and most fun hobby on earth, not to mention having just so much usefulness to a guy in your line of work. You will traverse being "qualified" with a firearm into the realm of being "competent" and eventually, "skilled". After a while (and a LOT of ammo), there will come a time when you can knock down three steel plates in one second flat, almost as a matter of pure instinct. Getting to that point is just so rewarding. In your line of work, it's worth attaining that level of proficiency.
The only real piece of advice I can give to an officer looking to get into the action shooting sports is to resist the temptation of the Open classes.
Yes, the Open class squirtguns ("Raceguns" with electronic sights, big compensators, massively oversized controls, extended mags, etc) are fun toys but impractical and irrelevant to the skills needed for the sidearms we're apt to carry for defensive purposes.
IDPA or the Limited/Production divisions in USPSA are great and will really make you into a beast with your duty sidearm.
3 Gun Matches are worthwhile and will hone your practical skills with your duty carbine and shotgun (Chicago carries long guns, right?)
Anyway, head over to youtube and look up some of the established greats. Rob Leatham, Dave Sevigny, Brian Enos, etc. This will give you a glimpse into the boundaries of what a sidearm is capable of.
How can you deny the second amendment for a job, a worm is taller then you McJudas.
"6/11/2011 02:02:00 AM"
-----Very well spoken!!! 99% of us agree with you!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
channel 7 sat. 10 pm news, Sup. stated, now we have the police in the right areas, now we need them to do the right thing.
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These officers always did the right thing!
6/11/2011 10:23:00 PM
Yes boss we agree! The right thing! Arrest on signed complaints only,don't violate civil rights that way we keep our homes,jobs,pension,family! The other way you see what happened to our brother in BLUE BILLY COZZI that as a man you need to set wheels in motion to get him free! Only then will I/we risk anything otherwise this is a crazy idea! LOL!
(longest rant comment ever)
I'm from another state, but moved here to take a job in the city.
Background: White collar guy,
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Amen! we feel your pain. you are lucky though you can move. we are stuck in the city limits till its almost too late..
if NEW YORK or any other place arrests me for having a gun and they know its contrary to the law of the land then i will file a law suit for false arrest, have the NRA lawyers defend me and collect $$ for my retirement.
Retired after 42 years, member of NRA, John Birch Society each for quite a while. Both hated by the left and I love being hated by the left. I am a Catholic and I say fuck flakey flager. I saw that this shiothead was an asshole 25 years ago.
Anonymous said...
been a member for years. you don't have to agree with 100% of everything they do. for the most part (90%) they are fighting the fight that you and me don't have the time to.
great cause (2nd amendemt freedom)
also, its affordable ($25-$35 year) and you get good discounts to many stores and services.., a monthly magazine, $7,500 firearms insurance and for law enforcemnt $100,000 killed on duty life insurance. all included. and a free gift like a multi-tool, or bag etc.
6/11/2011 12:38:00 AM
What do you disagree with??
As always, a great blog. Now, as far as NRA not liking the new boss, I don't believe it. I think it is the other way around. I think he fears the NRA for what it represents. The NRA represents freedom, kind of an equal playing field, where CCW creates a new balance. This is a threat to some of those people who would be threatened by that equality. A guy in charge with certain special powers is all of a sudden not as powerful as he once thought. I believe this is the real problem in the last holdout states for CCW. The lawmakers and top cops simply do not want to relinquish that power. Also, I believe Springfield and Chicago think that all people are too irresponsible to CCW and thus have not passed every time it's voted on. It's a firmly entrenched mindset that will be difficult to change.
I called it earlier and all this just confirms it. This guy is
"Forever I'm Bullshitting" McPuppet.
FIB McPuppet, Chicago's latest joke of an administrator.
This scares me because as an executive, you are measured by the people you surround yourself with.
Rahm's leadership star is starting to fade as well. You start to wonder about his other picks for administrative heads.
As for McCarthy, what will be more damaging to him? The lack of respect by the gangbanger/reverend crowd or the growing lack of respect by the decent citizens (both city and surrounding areas) who are fed up with this pussification of the CPD and its leadership.
I'm getting not to like him either since he went over to that jagoff's "church". And I use the term church lightly.
---not a cop
As for McCarthy, what will be more damaging to him? The lack of respect by the gangbanger/reverend crowd or the growing lack of respect by the decent citizens (both city and surrounding areas)
6/12/2011 06:17:00 AM
Do you really have to ask? They know how taxpayers feel. They know we are fed up. There are bits and pieces of evidence that unrest is growing in the ranks of the middle class, yet, they continue to lie, cheat, steal and LIE.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO TELL THE FUCKING TRUTH OR THIS COUNTRY IS GOING UP AND WHEN IT DOES, THE QUIET MIDDLE CLASS IS GOING TO SURPRISE EVERYONE.
I posted earlier about new forms required by CPD and city but I forgot to mention that I too am a proud NRA member.
Charlton Heston was a real man as was Joe Foss!
6/11/2011 06:05:00 PM
Charlton Heston was a great actor who knew how to milk the moment. Let's not deify him.
if NEW YORK or any other place arrests me for having a gun and they know its contrary to the law of the land then i will file a law suit for false arrest, have the NRA lawyers defend me and collect $$ for my retirement.
6/12/2011 12:53:00 AM
Great tough guy comment. For one, the NRA is not going to defend you. For two, NY and NJ are hoping for just such an event. They want to take the entire law to the federal courts to test the constitutionality. And, you WANT to be the test case? I love the guys who quote the law and dare someonw to arest them so they can sue. The states and cities can require you to abide by their paperwork and they do so. Just listen to the comments by those who live in other states, namely NY, NJ, Penn, states which totally ignore the law.And, don't forget to mention your own city and department which refuses to acknowledge it. So, after your tough guy comment, why don't you go to NY city and stand in TRimes square and tell the cop on the corner that you have a handgun on you. Then report back.
He should have said the rank and file do not like me. Now that is for sure. He is a puppet just like the last guy. Got your back until the powers that be tell him to put a knife in it. There isnt a person of integrity or honor any where near the top of this structure these days. These are truly sad times.
just joined BOTH!
"Honest question requires an honest answer. If an armed citizen shot a few of these flash mob offenders while under attack from them. Clearly self defense. The citizen was then fleeing the scene. How many of you hard chargers would pursue him? My report would read unk M/2 fled scene no further description and he would be in the victim's box.....
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Only criminals run away from crime scenes. Hope that answers your question."
6/11/2011 09:11:00 PM
If I shot some thugs who were trying to rob me, I wouldn't stick around. I wouldn't consider it "fleeing", but would simply continue on my way. What's the point of staying? Waiting for Anita Alvarez's people to come out and interview you and then decide to throw you under the bus for taking out another honor student who was in the process of turning his life around? No thanks. It's not a crime to defend yourself so leaving the scene is not leaving "a crime scene". There is no requirement that a victim remains on the scene of a self defense shooting.
"The NRA doesn't like me".
This idiotic statement, plus his visit with the pfake pfather Pfleger, has convinced me that the CPD is once again being run by a political hack. I had high hopes for the CPD after JFled left but now can only shake my head in disbelief after realizing that the new boss is pretty much the same as the old boss. WTF!
Retired ISP
Anonymous said...
I posted earlier about new forms required by CPD and city but I forgot to mention that I too am a proud NRA member.
Charlton Heston was a real man as was Joe Foss!
6/11/2011 06:05:00 PM
Charlton Heston was a great actor who knew how to milk the moment. Let's not deify him.
6/12/2011 10:11:00 AM
Let's not deify him? Charlton Heston? He already played the parts of Moses, John the Baptist, the voice of God and numerous larger than life figures. No, let's not. His life's work can do that nicely.
The victim should leave the scene. No law suit from the future brain surgeons family.
Let's not deify him.
6/12/2011 10:11:00 AM
find your humility.
"Chicago will lose yet another 'provider' in terms of a high income earner leaving the city, because it values its rodent population more than its law abiding people."
--6/11/2011 02:02:00 AM
Precisely so! A fine turn of words, sir.
Charlton Heston was a great actor who knew how to milk the moment. Let's not deify him.
6/12/2011 10:11:00 AM
Let's not deify him? Charlton Heston? He already played the parts of Moses, John the Baptist, the voice of God and numerous larger than life figures. No, let's not. His life's work can do that nicely.
6/12/2011 05:30:00 PM
He's a saint because he PLAYED ONE IN THE MOVIES? Yeah, and I'm a doctor cuz I played one on tv.
He's a saint because he PLAYED ONE IN THE MOVIES? Yeah, and I'm a doctor cuz I played one on tv.
6/13/2011 01:18:00 AM
"...I simply cannot stand by and watch a right guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States come under attack from those who either can't understand it, don't like the sound of it, or find themselves too philosophically squeamish to see why it remains the first among equals: Because it is the right we turn to when all else fails. That's why the Second Amendment is America's first freedom..."
"...The First Amendment is crucial. Of course it is. So are all the others. And the Second Amendment is the one that guarantees that people can bear arms to protect themselves..."
"...There's no such thing as a good gun. There's no such thing as a bad gun. A gun in the hands of a bad man is a very dangerous thing. A gun in the hands of a good person is no danger to anyone except the bad guys..."
"...You know, the Bill of Rights guarantees every citizen the right to own and bear firearms. It doesn't say anything about how many, how much you can pay for them. That's in the Bill of Rights. That's a sacred document in our country. There's no other country in the world that has such document. And you know what it's purpose is? To prevent the federal government from interfering with private citizens' rights ... If you will read what the Founding Fathers wrote when they were writing it -- Jefferson, Mason, Madison, Patrick Henry, Tom Paine -- every one of them wrote at great length that they were talking about the individual rights of individual citizens..."
"Political correctness is simply tyranny with manners."
"from my cold, dead hands."
Anonymous said...
If your a gun owner and care about preserving your Second Amendment heritage,you must join the NRA or if in Illinois at least the ISRA.
I belong to both, and pay my dues faithfully. All gun owners should join and support these organizations, and help battle the gun grabbers.
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