McGoatee?
Now he looks like a Chicago cop.
Garry McCarthy sported a goatee when he was named Chicago Police superintendent in May.
But on Sunday, he shaved off the beard after taking classes at the Chicago Police Academy and becoming a certified Illinois law enforcement officer. He didn’t part with his moustache, though.
To wear a Chicago Police uniform, which McCarthy intends to do when he takes the oath of office on Friday, a sworn officer must comply with the department’s 1998 general order on uniforms and personal equipment
It was always a fake controversy. We've still got serious problems to be addressed in this Department and a goatee wasn't really one of them. The uniform wearing will continue to bug people, too. But it's what's inside the uniform that will end up making or breaking this superintendency, and we've already seen a lot of what's inside over the beach goonings and the Sabina speech. The upcoming exempt moves fill in even more of the picture.
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posted by SCC at 1:03 AM
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Forget the 'goat-y'....get the criminals and stop the hideous killings and crime...Citizens are very upset and frightened. If City won't own up to it...then media needs to take over..things are not good.
OT: Channel 11 Chicago Tonight did a piece on "a new kind of crime wave, the flash mob". Interesting that the CPD declined to send someone to appear on the panel.
Of course, that self-aggrandizing idiot from Cease Fire was again spouting self-promotion that had nothing to do with the topic at hand and Ald Cochran (a former cop?) erroneously stated that a retail theft arrest would be on the permanent record of a teen for the rest of his life. WTF?
McSTACHE!!!!!
As much as I disagree with McCarthy over his views on guns, I have to give him credit for at least making the effort and getting certified in the State of Illinois as a law enforcement officer, unlike the nitwit before him. I have no problem at all with McCarthy wearing the CPD uniform, now. At least he was the police in NYC. The previous goof had no idea of the meaning of the word police.
Wearing the uniform would be a mistake as it was for Jody Weis.
Think about what O. W. Wilson and Weis were all about and how they are viewed today.
Garry, Don't wear the uniform as as sign of respect for the troops. And do NOT post a photo of J.W. in the lobby of H.Q.
to me its not really a problem if he wears the uniform. Unlike J fled this guy was actually a police officer. He at one time was pushin a beat car just like the rest of us. Like him or not and weather you support him or not youve got to at least give him that. I think its fine if he wears our uniform. There is alot of hate for this guy already(im convinced mostly from disgruntled TRU and MSF) but I dont think hes all that bad. I could really care less what type of sh*t he got into in new york or new jersey off duty... Lets not cast stones boys and girls.. Myself along with many people I know about have stepped on thier d*ck off duty and gotten jammed up. 10 years ago I was in a pretty bad way off duty and spent some time in the rubber gun unit.. the way I look at it, boys will be boys. Thank god i can look back at it and thank my lucky stars I was able to keep my job and end up back on the job... even though I had to take 30 days It all worked out. So im still givin this guy a chance.
He should NOT wear our uniform.
WTF is with these people? First the fed, and now him?
He's NOT a Chicago cop! End of story! Where's the FOP suckass?
He should have kept the goatee and changed that stupid order.
Having been with Gary back in the day, while in NYC for a police conference for operators, and even at a New York Football Giants game, I can attest to him always having a perfectly kempt appearance. This will not change — he looks even more professional now with his Sam Elliot-esque mustache. Sneed and I both know that Gary has been on that Body Solid Cross Trainer for more than an hour a day to get in uniform ready shape too.
Great job boss - Pat.
Well, at least he's in line w/the 70s/early 80s police crowd........
Welcome to the CPD, Cliff Clavin!
1998??? Damn - times have changed, change the order already.
I for one have no problem of G-Mac wearing the CPD uniform. He is a copper from day one and over the years paid his dues.
NOT like J-Fled, who was and always be a federal fuck-up back stabbing piece of shit.
Who cares if he wears it. At least hes a cop originally from a real department.
I don't know why they want to n not just stick to cd dress
to me its not really a problem if he wears the uniform. Unlike J fled this guy was actually a police officer. He at one time was pushin a beat car just like the rest of us. Like him or not and weather you support him or not youve got to at least give him that. I think its fine if he wears our uniform. There is alot of hate for this guy already(im convinced mostly from disgruntled TRU and MSF) but I dont think hes all that bad. I could really care less what type of sh*t he got into in new york or new jersey off duty... Lets not cast stones boys and girls.. Myself along with many people I know about have stepped on thier d*ck off duty and gotten jammed up. 10 years ago I was in a pretty bad way off duty and spent some time in the rubber gun unit.. the way I look at it, boys will be boys. Thank god i can look back at it and thank my lucky stars I was able to keep my job and end up back on the job... even though I had to take 30 days It all worked out. So im still givin this guy a chance.
7/14/2011 04:49:00 AM
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Where do I even begin... WOW!
He should have kept the goatee and changed that stupid order.
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Why?
You think it looks good for a cop to look like a goat?
who gives a shit whether or not he wears a goatee...i mean really...who cares...now if we had a supt. wanting to sport some manny ramirez type hair, that may be an issue...
"Having been with Gary back in the day, . . . Sneed and I both know that Gary has been on that Body Solid Cross Trainer for more than an hour a day to get in uniform ready shape too."
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So . .
Did you and your 'pal' Gary check each others bodies out when you were on that 'body solid cross trainer' together?
Been over 30 years since I was in the academy, but I remember an order being read/given the first day regarding appearance, hair length, facial hair, uniforms,,,McCarthy obviously didn;t get that one, but all things considered he is lot better than Weisal,,,of course the bar was made very low with that one.
to me its not really a problem if he wears the uniform. Unlike J fled this guy was actually a police officer. He at one time was pushin a beat car just like the rest of us. Like him or not and weather you support him or not youve got to at least give him that. I think its fine if he wears our uniform. There is alot of hate for this guy already(im convinced mostly from disgruntled TRU and MSF) but I dont think hes all that bad. I could really care less what type of sh*t he got into in new york or new jersey off duty... Lets not cast stones boys and girls.. Myself along with many people I know about have stepped on thier d*ck off duty and gotten jammed up. 10 years ago I was in a pretty bad way off duty and spent some time in the rubber gun unit.. the way I look at it, boys will be boys. Thank god i can look back at it and thank my lucky stars I was able to keep my job and end up back on the job... even though I had to take 30 days It all worked out. So im still givin this guy a chance.
7/14/2011 04:49:00 AM
You are a f*cking moron. You should not be on this job. "Boys will be boys" is an excuse for bad behavior. I've got 25 years on and totally disagree with your 'shit happens' attitude.
Whoever you are, you're a disgrace!
F*ck you, you're lucky to have held onto your job! You should be a cashier at Speedway!
Having been with Gary back in the day, while in NYC for a police conference for operators, and even at a New York Football Giants game, I can attest to him always having a perfectly kempt appearance. This will not change — he looks even more professional now with his Sam Elliot-esque mustache. Sneed and I both know that Gary has been on that Body Solid Cross Trainer for more than an hour a day to get in uniform ready shape too.
Great job boss - Pat.
7/14/2011 06:17:00 AM
And another idiot offers his two cents! Great job my ass! Does the St. Sabina episode ring a bell?
Plus, in over 25 years OTJ, I've never fired my gun in the air, or gotten into a fight with another copper. Ever. Especially not to the point where I had to be tackled and handcuffed.
Kiss my ass you butt licker! Go wipe his butt! F*cking idiots are the only ones who attribute this deplorable behavior to 'boys will be boys'.
Seriously.
He did 28-32 weeks at the Academy???
He is over forty and wouldn't be hired because of his age. If he couldn't get hired as a PPO, then he shouldn't wear the uniform.
What's the difference if he shaved or not. He will be another outsider that won't back us; just like the judges, ASA, mayor, pols and revs. All we got is ourselves.
Retail Theft on a record for life, maybe the asshole kid should have thought better, or maybe mommie and daddy should have thought the darling some values. Maybe burglary should be left off a record too, as it will be on for life. Dumbass pols are sending this city to hell.
Wait, he's not a Chicago cop? Oh, yes he is. At least he was a cop and has taken some steps to be certified in Illinois. After his class is over he ought to wear the uniform.
Lt. P,
is that how you got made?
Blatant ass-kissing. You should be ashamed.
I like how all you guys that weren't even on the job back during his regime, paint O.W. Wilson as some great Supernintendo.
What many forget, because of the Summerdale fiasco, he wanted all cops to work 99 as much as possible. His theory being that cops by themselves were less likely to steal then if they were with a partner.
Of course, battery to P.O.'s skyrocketed due to this policy. He wasn't a bad Super per say, but definitely not the Saint/genius some people paint him out to be.
He is a police officer who made a lateral transfer as far as I'm concerned. Superintendent, wear it proud, wear it with respect to those on the wall and please don't make statements that make our jobs harder. Don't compare him to O.W. Wilson or Jody Weis.
Anonymous said...
to me its not really a problem if he wears the uniform. Unlike J fled this guy was actually a police officer. He at one time was pushin a beat car just like the rest of us. Like him or not and weather you support him or not youve got to at least give him that. I think its fine if he wears our uniform. There is alot of hate for this guy already(im convinced mostly from disgruntled TRU and MSF) but I dont think hes all that bad. I could really care less what type of sh*t he got into in new york or new jersey off duty... Lets not cast stones boys and girls.. Myself along with many people I know about have stepped on thier d*ck off duty and gotten jammed up. 10 years ago I was in a pretty bad way off duty and spent some time in the rubber gun unit.. the way I look at it, boys will be boys. Thank god i can look back at it and thank my lucky stars I was able to keep my job and end up back on the job... even though I had to take 30 days It all worked out. So im still givin this guy a chance.
First off I love the Constitution and don't blame Sara Palin for ghetto shootings. Second in Chicago we don't use the term RUBBER GUN SQUAD. Nice try.
I moustache you a question but I'm shaving it for later
Lt. P. Schmear said...
Having been with Gary back in the day, while in NYC for a police conference for operators, and even at a New York Football Giants game, I can attest to him always having a perfectly kempt appearance. This will not change — he looks even more professional now with his Sam Elliot-esque mustache. Sneed and I both know that Gary has been on that Body Solid Cross Trainer for more than an hour a day to get in uniform ready shape too.
Great job boss - Pat.
Stop Brown Nosing and get a better attitude LT. We dont miss u n 021...KO.
screw mcpuppet and the rest of the rahm machine this is why the country is falling apart the liberal politicians shove these ghetto rats down our throats...anybody that likes this jerk is blind moron..unless he taking care of you..
He's been the police his entire career and has every right to wear the uniform, once he is state certified.
I don't know what is more insulting, Lil Garry going in as a recruit and months later hes the the Supe, or Jody wearing the uniform! Maybe we shold name him "The Rev Supe!" It is an insult to take these "outsiders" and not use the talent we have! Both have lost any credibility being "da mayor's boys"!
Has the New York police department ever hired an outsider to run their department? ? I understand What's done is done however their were qualified Chicago cops that could become superintendent.
Many of the departments exempts have offered to preform deviant sex acts on Gary to keep their spots.
I wonder what the next bullshit ribbon will be about. I mean C'mon we need a new bullshit ribbon so the Superintendent can proudly pin something on his new uniform.
McOvenMouth may wear the uniform but it will always be stained.
We all know he was the police out east, unlike J-fled. He has been certified my the state to be the police so I have no problem with him wearing our uniform
Cease fire wants to let the criminals get away with their crimes.
I have no problem with him wearing our uniform. Let's not forget that he was a cop in NYC. Who cares if he wasn't CPD. Don't act like CPD is so much better than NYC that he should not wear OUR uniform. Grow up people. He's a big city copper.....that's all that matters.
Thank god i can look back at it and thank my lucky stars I was able to keep my job and end up back on the job... even though I had to take 30 days It all worked out. So im still givin this guy a chance.
7/14/2011 04:49:00 AM
It's not his off duty behavior that concerns us as much as his St. Sabina statements. He's anti-gun just like these other communist politicians in this socialist haven. That can't be good.
Lt. P. Schmear said...
Having been with Gary back in the day, while in NYC for a police conference for operators, and even at a New York Football Giants game, I can attest to him always having a perfectly kempt appearance. This will not change — he looks even more professional now with his Sam Elliot-esque mustache. Sneed and I both know that Gary has been on that Body Solid Cross Trainer for more than an hour a day to get in uniform ready shape too.
Great job boss - Pat.
7/14/2011 06:17:00 AM
I heard a kiss.
Goatee or not- McMouth is still a loud-mouthed typical New York Jag
Why does he have to wear our uniform? Is it a big deal? It is to me and a bunch of others. He may have been the police back in NYC, but he did not earn it here. HE DID NOT TAKE CLASSES AT THE ACADEMY. Supposedly he took some firearm classes so he could pass the state test. As SCC said it is the person in the uniform. So, the same can be true of not wearing the uniform. He can be just as effective without it, maybe more so since it will cause dissension among the ranks.
Why is it everybody is so ppeved he will wear the unbiform when half of the department doesnt wear one and those that do wear black nikes with reflective swooshes??
First off I love the Constitution and don't blame Sara Palin for ghetto shootings. Second in Chicago we don't use the term RUBBER GUN SQUAD. Nice try.
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If you had some time on the job, maybe you would have heard that term before! Now go get your shine box!
He should NOT wear our uniform!
The only people who should wear our uniform are those who have gone through the Academy......
Who've spent time as a blue shirt...
You cannot just jump over everything and throw on a uniform--
I for one would be really insulted if he thinks he is entitled to wear our uniform.
Let him wear his 40 short.
McPuppet should have got rid of the goatee and the propoganda at Phacker Phegers chuch. J-Fled replaced by McAsshat.
Bottom line, he's not a Chicago copper, didn't come up through the ranks--doesn't deserve to wear our uniform. Show respect in another way.
He's not a Chicago cop. Therefore he shouldn't wear our uniform.
He was hired to be a politician. What kind of real cop would ask, "what's gang activity?"
F*ck him, and his rev kissing ass. Let him put on some vestments.
Body Solid Cross Trainer for more than an hour a day to get in uniform ready shape too.
Great job boss - Pat
SUCK HOLE Don't we all get paid to workout????
Thank god i can look back at it and thank my lucky stars I was able to keep my job and end up back on the job... even though I had to take 30 days It all worked out. So im still givin this guy a chance.
First off I love the Constitution and don't blame Sara Palin for ghetto shootings. Second in Chicago we don't use the term RUBBER GUN SQUAD. Nice try.
guess youve never been in call back... because when I was there thats what it was referred to and thats what many still call it these days..... maybe its just that you dont have enough time on the job....kid. Typical new guy hair gel, knows it all and been there done that. Nice try though.
I heard mastersmastersmasters was in his class!
Wow, I am ashamed at some of you and your comments toward the Supe and towards Pat Schear.
Grow up!
He's been the police his entire career and has every right to wear the uniform, once he is state certified.
7/14/2011 02:33:00 PM
Until this dipshit has ridden on a 'man with a gun' call, or spent some time on Chicago streets, excuse me, he does not belong in our uniform.
Fine...let him parade around in his NYPD uniform and his fishnets in the privacy of his own home.
He's NOT a Chicago cop. He's a politician and an administrator. That's all. Let him play dress-up somewhere else!
The motivation to wear the uniform and the failure to see the impact upon his image gives insight into the person that is leading our Department. This man is an ego maniac who is about building his image and going home to New York. He will say anything, do anything, to make himself look good. He will throw whoever stands in the way of this goal under the bus and drive over them. Do not trust this person. He is a policeman, but his focus is self serving not about his people, the citizens just about himself. He will make us better, after he leaves which will be after next year.
Who cares if he has a beard down to his ass. As long as he does his job and gives respect to his officers.
get rid of the whole shaving requirement period !! This is 2011 what difference does it make if you have facial hair or not ??
Who cares about the McGoatee...McPuppet has disgraced us at the hands of impressing the St. Sabina congregation....McPuppet is not on our side and obviously not the REAL Police...I dont give a shit if he sat in a beat car or not...
State certified and then its OK to wear the Supes uniform? He ain't the poolice! You think NYPD would go along with this? Now go get your shine box and polish Plegs...well you know.
That is the best I have read yet. G-Mac. Thats aw-sum. Got rid of J-Fed and replaced him with G-Mac. My morale is already rising.
Thank god i can look back at it and thank my lucky stars I was able to keep my job and end up back on the job... even though I had to take 30 days It all worked out. So im still givin this guy a chance.
First off I love the Constitution and don't blame Sara Palin for ghetto shootings. Second in Chicago we don't use the term RUBBER GUN SQUAD. Nice try.
guess youve never been in call back... because when I was there thats what it was referred to and thats what many still call it these days..... maybe its just that you dont have enough time on the job....kid. Typical new guy hair gel, knows it all and been there done that. Nice try though.
7/15/2011 12:15:00 AM
Yeah, what he said! I am veteran of unit 376. I even made the tact team there. " You thought about it, we did it" --- seriously I don't miss that part of my life. And fuck you Kirby and Skahill for fucking up my life for that period of time. Remember what goes around comes around bitches.
Until this dipshit has ridden on a 'man with a gun' call, or spent some time on Chicago streets, excuse me, he does not belong in our uniform.
Fine...let him parade around in his NYPD uniform and his fishnets in the privacy of his own home.
He's NOT a Chicago cop. He's a politician and an administrator. That's all. Let him play dress-up somewhere else!
7/15/2011 04:43:00 AM
Do you really think that Chicago is the only fucking place that has a man with a gun call? There's crime all over the fucking world, tough guy. If he was a cop in NY, he can be a cop here.
Now his anti gun bullshit is another story.
Dinosaur said...
I like how all you guys that weren't even on the job back during his regime, paint O.W. Wilson as some great Supernintendo.
What many forget, because of the Summerdale fiasco, he wanted all cops to work 99 as much as possible. His theory being that cops by themselves were less likely to steal then if they were with a partner.
Of course, battery to P.O.'s skyrocketed due to this policy. He wasn't a bad Super per say, but definitely not the Saint/genius some people paint him out to be.
7/14/2011 10:30:00 AM
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Having been around for just about all of the O.W. tenure, I am probably at least as much, if not more of a dinosaur than you. First of all, if you remember, the stated purpose of 1 man cars was to put more vehicles on the street to act as a deterent to crime. Second, I know of no statistics that indicate Battery of a PO went up during that time. Third I do not remember working a 1 man car very often on the First or Third Watch at that time, and if I did any time I was given a job that a potential of trouble, I was also given an assist car. Besides if all else failed, I had a gun and billy club. The few 1 man cars that were out there usually just handled paper jobs. I don't know about you, but those were fun times for me, and easily among the best I had in 40 years or so. Just as an aside, O.W. was a beat officer in a small town in California, as well as a Professor at Berkely, as well as being rather high up in the Constabulary in Germany after World War II. I believe he was a Colonel As far as a Policeman's Superintendent goes, I would rate him among what I consider to be the 4 best. Those were: O.W., Jim Rochford, Dick Brzeczek and Fred Rice. O'Grady would be in that company also, but he was mostly in an acting capacity. I did know most of them. Many of you may laugh and joke about Brzeczek, But until he went off of the deep end he was agreat spokesperson for, and supporter of, the street polickman.
Incidentally, in my opinion, it was after Fred Rice, the last Superintendent that had the ego and self conficence necessary to do the jobe correctly, that things started to go down hill. We seemed to get into a period of "Cover your ass," which exists to this day. Another point, all those Supts on my list had the ability and willingness and perhaps the freedom to surround themselves with people who knew what they were doing.
Give this new guy a chance, whether he wears the uniform or not, he seems to be cut from the right cloth.
get rid of the whole shaving requirement period !! This is 2011 what difference does it make if you have facial hair or not ??
7/15/2011 11:50:00 AM
I'd be willing to bet you'd have the scraggliest face out there along with your ball cap on backwards.
There are reasons for standards. If we say nothing besides a mustache it's real easy. Otherwise it's beard that doesn't grow all the way down to your chest hair, not longer than 3/4 of an inch. Natural colors only, mutton chops, etc, etc, etc.
Hard enough to get any boss to ask to see a bump card now. I know, "whats a bump card"?
get rid of the whole shaving requirement period !! This is 2011 what difference does it make if you have facial hair or not ??
7/15/2011 11:50:00 AM
That would work....if....you didn't have idiots who decided to keep a beard like father time. Remember hard core bikers are gangbangers. No cop should be allowed to look like a hardcore biker. There is one guy on the job that has a beard about two feet long! Looks like a total asshole! Then again, I heard his brother is a retired Captain and they don't want to mess with him.
to me its not really a problem if he wears the uniform. Unlike J fled this guy was actually a police officer. He at one time was pushin a beat car just like the rest of us. Like him or not and weather you support him or not youve got to at least give him that. I think its fine if he wears our uniform. There is alot of hate for this guy already(im convinced mostly from disgruntled TRU and MSF) but I dont think hes all that bad. I could really care less what type of sh*t he got into in new york or new jersey off duty... Lets not cast stones boys and girls.. Myself along with many people I know about have stepped on thier d*ck off duty and gotten jammed up. 10 years ago I was in a pretty bad way off duty and spent some time in the rubber gun unit.. the way I look at it, boys will be boys. Thank god i can look back at it and thank my lucky stars I was able to keep my job and end up back on the job... even though I had to take 30 days It all worked out. So im still givin this guy a chance.
7/14/2011 04:49:00 AM
You are a f*cking moron. You should not be on this job. "Boys will be boys" is an excuse for bad behavior. I've got 25 years on and totally disagree with your 'shit happens' attitude.
Whoever you are, you're a disgrace!
F*ck you, you're lucky to have held onto your job! You should be a cashier at Speedway!
Sounds like you got some anger problems just retire already. wow that was some rant take some deep breaths its going to be ok.
Anonymous said...
Why does he have to wear our uniform? Is it a big deal? It is to me and a bunch of others. He may have been the police back in NYC, but he did not earn it here. HE DID NOT TAKE CLASSES AT THE ACADEMY. Supposedly he took some firearm classes so he could pass the state test. As SCC said it is the person in the uniform. So, the same can be true of not wearing the uniform. He can be just as effective without it, maybe more so since it will cause dissension among the ranks.
7/14/2011 08:02:00 PM
why does this even MATTER?
So since he isnt a "real" chicago cop in your eyes,you wont respect him? Thats weak as hell Brother.
He is making an effort.More so that the goof before him.
Remember this:
Weis's uniform was given to him
McCarthy's was EARNED.
Big difference. But by all means keep being a traditionalist and hang on to the antiquated idea that if he cant be a PPO he cant possibly be the police. There are cops on this job on for 15 years that STILL arent the police.
There are cops on this job that should have their uniform taken from them.
As I see it,if he is willing to certify,then that makes him the police.That entitles him to the uniform and the respect it demands.
OLD SCHOOL.
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