What Was That Noise?
An off-duty Chicago Police officer shot a 38-year-old man in his hand Tuesday night on the Northwest Side, police said.
The man was shot around 10:30 p.m. in the 4400 block of West Armitage, police said.
He was later taken to an area hospital and was arrested, police said
Police did not provide further details.
But Fraternal Order of Police spokesman Pat Camden said the shooting happened while an off-duty narcotics officer was trying to help a driver during an auto accident.
The man approached the officer and asked if he had a “f------- problem,” Camden said. The officer replied that he did not have a problem but was an officer.The man then tried to open the officer’s unmarked police car and reached into a waistband, Camden said. The officer responded by shooting the man, Camden said.
The man did not have a weapon, Camden added.
Otherwise, Camden continues to do a fine job getting the word out.
Labels: shooting
posted by SCC at 6:41 AM
74 Comments:
Hopefully, Camden did say this and the media is just up to its old tricks.
didn't.
another cup of java works wonders.
(and, yeah, i know, i'm a bitch.)
O.T. LT. from confidential has been stripped.
The trib reporter William Lee is the same one that covered the 13y.o. He made it a point to insert in this story. "-including that of a 13-year-old boy with a BB gun-" what relevance does that have to do with THIS story. He's a snarky jackass IMHO. You don't like this type of reporting let him know, I did. His email wlee@tribune.com great thing about this pesky internet. The truth can still get out no matter who the mainstream twists it.
To the idiot 025th district officer who posted a rant about the d.c. gfy! I only have three years on the job and I am on 3rd watch because of management's choice. Do you know why? Because of activity. That is why. I work very hard and so I am not stuck on 1st watch. Maybe if you wrote parking tickets, movers, contact cards, driver contact cards, etc.... then you would be fine. But don't bitch and not have any activity.
Warning! We have undocumented report of a Freaknik to take place this Saturday At Proviso East in Maywood. Any info?
OT
I don't want to beat a dead horse but...
About the faux problem of the vest cover. If we have to wear it under our powder blue shirt, will we still have to wear a black tie that draipes right over my heart?? That neck tie would be an awesome target indictator for the bad guys....
Gee, how long before the general public (westside) demands that the police be disarmed and work like London cops? Sticks and whistles?
As a retired officer, all I can say is that the FOP had a stroke of genius in hiring Camden.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/most-valuable-blogger/
vote for SCC
The Tribune reporter Bill Lee is an anti-Police hack who persists in playing word games with Police related matters. Is it any wonder the dead tree media is dying? You get more truth in two paragraphs of SCC's commentary than in a week of this guy's reporting.
Hey Pat, sit this punk down and define terms such as aggravated assault to a PO, Offender, Traffic violator other than the nonsense he writes
All of these incidents with police - both on-duty and off-duty scream that we need concealed carry in this state.
After seeing these incidents written up on SCC, the average person is open to becoming a victim if they are unarmed.
Illinois - unique in its position that denies the second Amendment to its residents.
Maybe we should file a class-action suit in federal court saying that Illinois and its corrupt politicians have denied us our Civil Rights (being covered by the second Amendment).
The officer is lucky that he shot the guy before he could get the jump on him. As to feeling sorry for the "shooting victim" (as they will portray the offender in the media), I say the more these parasites get shot the less their brethren will "take a chance" on trying to take on a potential victim.
Verified. Freaknik this Saturday at Proviso East in Maywood. Avoid 1st Ave., Madison St., Lake St., Ike in that area. Sheriffs PD has 80 cops assigned just to the school. Other PD's assigned to the perimeter. Remember the Schiller Park Freaknik a few years back? Gang rapes and robberies.
Good point by Camden , when your weapon is drawn and a person advances toward you in a threeatening manner , you are in fear of your life because the person will disarm you and use weapon to kill you . End of story.
Good job Officer and if necessary you will have 12,000 brothers and sisters in blue at your benefit party if necessary .
CTA Special Employment OFFICIALLY OVA !
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-50-chicago-cops-to-be-deployed-to-rail-bus-stations-20110727,0,426707.story
50 Chicago cops to be deployed to rail, bus stations
Mayor Rahm Emanuel plans to hire 50 full-time police officers to patrol rail and bus stations around the city.
The officers will come from the fall class of the Chicago Police Academy and will be detailed to public transportation by the spring of 2012....
50 is a start? At least it's some kind of actual figure-based commitment to NEW, not moved from spot to spot in a political shell game, hires?
so Chicago media scum.Lets hear it.This is another example of trigger happy Cops right?So,lets hear it ghetto dwelling,leeches of society and mankind.Talk shit at the next job im at that YOU called us for because you need adult supervision to be human."why you shootin all them,cath the real criminals",and call me every name u can come up with in your limited canned language.This is very simple.Law of survival is me and us live before you,and i do mean YOU PEOPLE,kill or injure another of us.Last i looked,i or fellow Officers are not here to be shot at or attacked by YOU PEOPLE.Where is any form of outrage regarding hundreds of physical attacks on Policemen in this City every single day.Who is savage enough to think of pointing a loaded gun ,at a Policeman?This has nothing to do with trigger happy anything.This has everything to do with wanting to live and live healthy and not be injured or killed at the expense of a alleged human taking up space on this earth.Oh,and all these lawsuits?answer me this.Who does P.O. Baileys family get to sue today?A whole useless culture of alleged "people" and their ignorant lifestyle?Nope..No one to sue.Fucking Pathetic this city,You People and the Media who will never ever acknowledge who the real problems are in this place.
"The man approached the officer and asked if he had a 'f------- problem,' The officer replied that he did not have a problem but was an officer.
"The man then tried to open the officer’s unmarked police car and reached into a waistband..."
What the hell is causing this?
These people are literally walking around in some sort of dream, a construct of the world in which they have unlimited power and can do whatever weird, nonsensical thing that crosses their mind. "Acting out," in a big way.
Do not underestimate the effects of music videos on the ignorant; depictions of entire city streets where the whole population, everyone you can see in a car, through a window, on the sidewalk is rocking back and forth and stepping and signifying to the tune of one master beat that fills the world.
Some people fall asleep and begin repeating words, lyrics, whole stanzas of this material. Their brains are full of nothing else.
Hypnosis is the word I'm looking for -- in the Kenya rebellion in the Fifties, the fighters had been so chanted over and encouraged by witch doctors that they were certain that bullets would pass harmlessly though them like water. On they came, bug-eyed on dagga, marijuana, waving their guns and sticks and pangas, bush knives.
"Mai Mulele! Mai Mulele! MAI MULELE!" they roared, to keep the bullets off.
Didn't work.
There is a strange, often self-destructive attraction to authority (blue lights as "a__hole magnets"); drunks and so forth come up and, I think, try to turn into the officer, to "do police things."
I had one wild teenager stop me on the street and begin issuing police-sounding orders. Stuff from TV. "DROP THAT WEAPON!" Luckily for him, an adult relation came along and forcefully collected him before he got himself OCed -- or worse.
I think thorough tox screens should always be done in these cases of shootings by police in defense against threatening, irrational behavior. Some of them may be alcoholic "blackouts" in which the person is simply not home, but the mechanism is walkin' and talkin' on its own. You can't tell by looking whether or not the lights are on in there. Cocaine, tranquilizers, and other common drugs can intensify and deepen these blackouts.
Look at all the bars. Look at all the liquor stores. Look at the semi-truck loads of booze going up the street. Look at all the pharmacies. Look at all the street dealers.
It's all going somewhere.
Stay safe!
OT: Just received a Text from a PO who stated he heard that CTA Special is Canceled for Good as of Aug... He said its not confirmed but that it comes from a very reliable source. Anyone Confirm? Yes, I know it's Straight Time...but some of us can't get the Good Stuff!
Really.
OFF TOPIC:
Press conference today at Ashland and the Green Line with Forest Claypool and Mayor Emmanuel announcing the disbanding of Unit 702 CTA Voluntary Special Employment. Unit 701 Public Transportation will get 50 Officers to replace overtime iniative.
The great tan one is doing fine, what we need is some support from the city/department. Not so long ago Chris Rock came out with a skit about how to behave when encountering the law. Maybe we need to make some amendment to the skit stating that it is not a good idea to open a strangers door who has identified himself as the law and then "MF" him as you invade their personal space all while making furtive movements that would lead a reasonable man to believe you are armed, thereby resulting in A CAP IN YO ASS! There's fool's and then there's Damn Fools!
The hell with what the media or anyone else thinks---do what you have to go home alive--every day, every shift.
Man 24 shot in the head...8000 S Racine.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cops-man-25-shot-in-head-in-gresham-neighborhood-20110727,0,349871.story
See...now if that victim was wearing his vest UNDER his shirt the man driving-by in the car that shot him would of aimed for the chest instead right?
Oh wait, he wasn't even wearing a vest. Never mind.
Sup nickname should be "McPuppet" - he says whatever Rahm tells him to say
Anyone remember Vic Morrow in the TV series Combat?
Smoke 'em if you got 'em!
Preckwinkle: Police Should Stop Making Minor Marijuana Arrests
Or maybe I should of qouted the line from the movie Christmas Vacation were cousin Eddie says "shitter's full" eh?
vest inspections coming soon at firearm qualifications this year, you might want to borrow your young partners vest.
you heard it here first.
I remember the Freaknik in Schiller Woods a few years back. They were total animals (and these were supposedly the college kids) and the 16th District and some outside units did a great job in containing them.
As a retired officer, all I can say is that the FOP had a stroke of genius in hiring Camden.
7/27/2011 09:32:00 AM
What does that say for MB?
"Warning! We have undocumented report of a Freaknik to take place this Saturday At Proviso East in Maywood. Any info?"
--7/27/2011 08:22:00 AM
Is it the same miserable little I-grab-all-the-money-and-the-ten thousand-people-who-come-can-all- use-the-one-bathroom-at-the Dominick's "promoter" who pulled this years ago out in the Forest Preserves?
Maywood is an ideal location. I don't see any problem. Hell, how could you tell it from a normal day there? Leave it alone.
The media makes me sick! Punks, gang bangers carry guns & just point them and or shoot them whenever it suites them 24/7. When one of these morons come in contact with the Police & have a mind fart & decide to point or shoot their gun at the officers, and then land up getting shoot or killed the asshole's in the media make the officers as the aggressors! Are you fucking kidding me!! People need to shake these officers hand , thank you isn't enough to express what the police do for the law abiding citizens of Chicago!!
"Freaknik this Saturday at Proviso East in Maywood. Avoid 1st Ave., Madison St., Lake St., Ike in that area."
--7/27/2011 10:16:00 AM
Thanks! Will do.
That's good advice for humans any day of the year.
OT:
I really love the "How you can apply for and win at getting free Social Security benefits"
This crap and all the "Let's sue..." commercials and the Maury Povich programs of mainstream society .....
Is what's bringing the American concept into the toilet. European culture has never looked so much better as western civilization to follow.
Forget what I just said ... Let's just hop over the cliff like any good lemming.....
Prince Valium
"Freaknik this Saturday at Proviso East in Maywood."
--7/27/2011 10:16:00 AM
Pray for "continuous training monsoonal thunderstorms with dangerous winds, grapefruit-sized hail, and continuous cloud-to-ground lightning."
Can ya do it for us, Tom? >grin>
I was just told by a boss that it looks like they are going to inspect the dates on our vests at inspection this year. What a waste of time.
The officers will come from the fall class of the Chicago Police Academy and will be detailed to public transportation by the spring of 2012....
50 is a start? At least it's some kind of actual figure-based commitment to NEW, not moved from spot to spot in a political shell game, hires?
7/27/2011 12:58:00 PM
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The new hires will be assigned to a district and veteran officers will be assigned to CTA
IT seems like all the Chicago media has to write about is the CPD. They really have no creativity or originality, its always the same old stories: "Poor Pookie shot by the big bad police"
They are such fucking losers. Its sad that the journalist in this country can't come up with any other news stories than something that involves the Chicago Police Department. It would be great if we all did nothing and then the media wouldn't have any topics to write about anymore. Not to worry, the Scum times and Flibune are on running on borrowed time. Cancel your subscriptions and don't advertise through their affiliates.
This block? http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=4400+W+Armitage+Ave,+Chicago,+Cook,+Illinois+60639,+United+States&hl=en&ll=41.917048,-87.736988&spn=0,0.026157&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=16.71875,56.536561&geocode=FYObfwIdED_F-g&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=41.917051,-87.737164&panoid=ikSSfZkML59NOdqo9aTA5A&cbp=12,237.75,,1,-4.47
How did the desk officer get 14 CTA checks?
7/26/2011 08:12:00 AM
LOLOLOL yeah no shit!!!
7/27/2011 03:58:00 PM
I would guess that he worked CTA
Special. Since Special just got cancelled for everyone I guess I'll have to find a new way to pay for Catholic High School.
I just got Emannueled.
Freaknick is on. Tickets say they cant be sued if you get shot. Thats the best.
Anonymous Grand/Central said...
To the idiot 025th district officer who posted a rant about the d.c. gfy! I only have three years on the job and I am on 3rd watch because of management's choice. Do you know why? Because of activity. That is why. I work very hard and so I am not stuck on 1st watch. Maybe if you wrote parking tickets, movers, contact cards, driver contact cards, etc.... then you would be fine. But don't bitch and not have any activity.
7/27/2011 08:06:00 AM
BULLSHIT! Let's face it, it's based on who you know and NOT on your activity. There was a p.o. in 025 and he wrote 50 to 100 parking citations PER DAY. He had something like over 10,000 parking citations. That is some serious fucking activity. well he still got dumped to 1st watch! Management in 025 or anywhere doesn't give a fuck about your activity. It's all about who you know or who you blow.
Go to IllinoisCarry.com, there are two federal lawsuits against the state of illinoisakstan about denying legal conceal carry. 7th court of appeals handed the city its ass about the range ban, a day after the city ok'd it. it's coming - just make sure we get obama out and we will have the SCOTUS locked up.
NEW RECRUITS FILL MASS TRANSIT?
from the Sun Times:
The 50 new officers will be the first class to enter the Police Academy since Mayor Rahm Emanuel took office on May 16. They will begin their six months of training this fall and hit the streets next spring.
“These are officers who are gonna get up every single day — sleep, eat and breathe public transit. Know the system, know the issues and be dedicated to that,” said CTA President Forrest Claypool.
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WOW! Pass the blunt . .
I want to get as fucked up as Rahm and the G man !!!!
vest inspections coming soon at firearm qualifications this year, you might want to borrow your young partners vest.
you heard it here first.
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Thanks asshole.
I'll "borrow" yours from your locker on your day off.
Say goodbye to Safe City Special employment soon.
The DOG ASSES killed it.
Gee, how long before the general public (westside) demands that the police be disarmed and work like London cops? Sticks and whistles?
7/27/2011 09:02:00 AM
Don't forget the kazoo.
A few changes are rumored to take place, several bosses getting dumped, McCarthy informed them that the CPD is taking a different path and recommended they retire if they can. A few on the rumored cutting block is Carothers, Welch, OCD Commanders, and a few other positions. He is bringing back four street deputies.
OT: Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle, who boldly declared last month that the war on drugs has failed, said she’s talked with Chicago’s new police Supt. Garry McCarthy about halting arrests for low-level drug possession offenses
What, is she bucking for Anita's job now? Oh, hell; don't pursue illegal aliens, don't arrest anybody for marijuana, don't bother with those pesky laws at all. Put the blinders on and don't do what you raised your right hand and swore to do, lo, those many years ago. Don't bother upholding the laws of this country and this state. Apparently, those laws are disposable and subject to the whim of the politicians.
ot: If you plan to nominate SCC for best blog on cbslocal, write out your little recommendation speech first, then cut and paste it into their site. The damned thing refreshes every minute or two and your nomination gets wiped out before you can hit 'send'. Pain in the ass.
Hey Grand/Central. I don't know what some P.O. said about our worthless commander. But do you actually believe that crap spewing out of you're mouth or does Velez have his hand shoved up yoyr ass and is controlling you like the puppet you are?
Hey 3rd watch management jackass in 025 GFY!!!! you know who you are, time for parkers and movers are you serious? your family must be so proud, just like the f/2 working in the deputy's office, she earned that spot right?
It's all legit, keep telling yourself that.
CTA is going to hire private security and there own safety company to protect the riders and citizen of the city. It is cheaper and easier to hire a GED fool with a PERC Card to work security for 15 an hour and say that they have created 5000 jobs within the city, mean while there all gang bangers and the entire city is so screwed, G8 and NATO? what were you thinking mo way can we handle this, we have no man power and no bosses with balls nor backbones...
that thing at Proviso is friday and Saturday expecting 20,000 River Forest is planning to shutdown traffic going North at Washington.
I am not trigger-happy..I am happy when I pull the trigger!
Freaknik said...
Verified. Freaknik this Saturday at Proviso East in Maywood. Avoid 1st Ave., Madison St., Lake St., Ike in that area. Sheriffs PD has 80 cops assigned just to the school. Other PD's assigned to the perimeter. Remember the Schiller Park Freaknik a few years back? Gang rapes and robberies.
7/27/2011 10:16:00 AM
Who doesn't avoid that area no matter what kind of 'nik is taking place?
So Rahm is going to hire 50 more cops and put them through the Police Academy to be ready for duty in the Spring of next year. Interesting. In that period of time just how many cops will retire? About 400 or more? This is all bullshit to make the public think like he is doing something. They could fill the Police Academy for a full year and not even bring this dept. up to strength. Now I am reading rumors that CTA Special Employment is going to vanish. That will make it even less safe. And the beat goes on in Chicago.
Canceling CTA Special is just another kick at the rank and file. Taking away the little extra earning potential that was out there is just Rahm giving a big FU to tge troops.
The officers citizens see out there are the special employment cops. Try and find a PTS cop. They grab their pisser, jumper, or drinker and that's the day.
And don't get me started on the PTS tact teams.
"About the faux problem of the vest cover."
Why did the department authorize the black vest cover? To increase our visibility to citizens.
Because our staffing is so low, it was thought to be a good way to show people that we're out there.
Although a side benefit, it certainly wasn't out of fear of fratricide. When's the last time a Chicago copper shot another in a case of mistaken identity?
It also wasn't to make us more easily identifiable to the thugs. Another side benefit, yes, but was it the intention? No. They know who the po-leece are.
Look at the approved black vest cover; "POLICE" emblazoned across the back and an oversize star on the front. It was all an attempt to make it look like there are more of us out there than there actually are.
To take them away now would diminish our visibility to Joe Average.
Feel safer yet, taxpayers?
(OT) And the burkes continue on the fleece and take tour!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-quinn-appoints-burkes-daughter-to-117000ayear-post-20110727,0,7699940.story
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC:
Press conference today at Ashland and the Green Line with Forest Claypool and Mayor Emmanuel announcing the disbanding of Unit 702 CTA Voluntary Special Employment. Unit 701 Public Transportation will get 50 Officers to replace overtime iniative.
7/27/2011 02:46:00 PM
Ahh he did not announce disbanding special as yet where did you get this??
maybe they [press] should be told the offender was high on pcp and admitted it to A/O's.
8:22 am:
I am sorry to report your fears are correct. There will be a long weekend festival on the grounds of East this weekend. If you have to travel through "the Hood" this weekend down 1st Avenue, find another route. All dregs will be there. I work there and am not going to work on Thursday or Friday.
Why do we need to get the word out? The less info the better. Ipra makes no statement anymore, and havent for a couple years. We arent athletes where the fans need our stats for the night. This will backfire one day when Camden mispeaks or says something that isnt true and his statement is admitted in the lawsuit.
vest inspections coming soon at firearm qualifications this year, you might want to borrow your young partners vest.
you heard it here first.
As long as you have one there is no order that says it cant be expired.
Any truth to the rumor special cta is gone? Some are saying that rahmbo announced it today,but if true by the time he puts 50 new inexperienced coppers on cta it will take what at least 6 months?
Can someone please tell the useless piece of.shit Area 5 hgs Lt. that she should worry about more than vests on a police shooting. She is a prime example of what is wrong with this department. Why put her in charge of a violent crimes unit when she should be in a district on midnights somewhere out south.
Regarding vest expiration: The five year term of the warranty is just that- a warranty. It means that the manufacturer warrants ( promises ) that it will work a certain way for a certain period of time. They make no binding promise that it will work at all after that time. It doesn't mean it won't, just that you don't get anything out of them if it doesn't. I'd like to have the boss who is inspecting my vest point out any binding contractual provision that states I have to wear a vest that's under warranty. Such a provision doesn't exist. If they can prove that my specific vest, worn only by me, treated as I treat it, is not functioning, then fine. Note that they aren't allowed to test it to see if it will stop a bullet because that would ruin it and they'd owe me a vest at the expense of CPD.
Of course this is a non-issue since there have been no instances of a CPD vest failing in use. We "dodged a bullet" on those Xylon vests, but that is another story.
So...rest easy on this one.
And by a new vest you cheap bastard.
Can someone please tell the useless piece of.shit Area 5 hgs Lt. that she should worry about more than vests on a police shooting. She is a prime example of what is wrong with this department. Why put her in charge of a violent crimes unit when she should be in a district on midnights somewhere out south.
7/28/2011 12:31:00 AM
I always love posts like this. Waahhhhhh! I got caught doing something wrong. The Boss is an asshole. What a baby.
To the idiot 025th district officer who posted a rant about the d.c. gfy! I only have three years on the job and I am on 3rd watch because of management's choice. Do you know why? Because of activity. That is why. I work very hard and so I am not stuck on 1st watch. Maybe if you wrote parking tickets, movers, contact cards, driver contact cards, etc.... then you would be fine. But don't bitch and not have any activity.
7/27/2011 08:06:00 AM
Wow, three whole years on the job and you have it all figured out! You got it man. Hard work and lots of activity will take care of all your problems and grant all of your wishes on this department. You got me crying because I'm laughing so hard. P.S. maybe if you write a few more parkers and do an occasional caps service request you can get 2nd watch! If you throw in a bus check they might even promote you! LOL
Mess with the Bull you get the Horn.
Good job Officer.
Buck Naked
(not a cop)
Wake up, the new recruits are on probation for 18mos. That means FTOs. I pretty sure you won't see 50 FTOs sent to transit.
vest inspections coming soon at firearm qualifications this year, you might want to borrow your young partners vest.
you heard it here first.
As long as you have one there is no order that says it cant be expired.
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No, your not 100% right.
Here is an example: You must have
PRESCRIBED UNIFORM/EQUIPMENT ITEMS
A. Clothing
1. Blouse - 100% Wool (dress uniform)
2. Cap - 100% Wool, Round Crown
3. Cap - Cloth, Round Crown (field uniform)
4. Coat - 100% Wool Reefer (dress uniform - police officers;
alternate field uniform - sergeants)
5. Footwear - Military Oxford
6. Gloves - White
7. Jacket - cloth (field uniform)
8. Necktie
9. Shirt - Long and Short Sleeve, (Police Officer - Light Blue,
Sergeants - White)
10. Socks (black)
11. Trousers - 100% Wool.
However none can be ripped and worn-out etc. *But it does not say this in the order*
does this mean your uniform can be ripped,dirty and unusable? NO because it's covered in the rules and regs.
III. REGULATIONS ESTABLISHING THE GOALS OF DEPARTMENT
MEMBERS
then read
G.O. 98-10-3 PRESCRIBED UNIFORM
Body Armor - Department-authorized
the body armor must be authorized.
any less then 5 years is not "Authorized". by the dept.
this is from the point of view from the brass,so don't shoot the messenger.
Can someone please tell the useless piece of.shit Area 5 hgs Lt. that she should worry about more than vests on a police shooting. She is a prime example of what is wrong with this department. Why put her in charge of a violent crimes unit when she should be in a district on midnights somewhere out south.
7/28/2011 12:31:00 AM
Are we talking about the useless former SVU lieutenant? Or is this a new one?
body armor won't be inspected for the expiration, but it will be inspected for condition.
Just wear your vest and stfu . The area 5 hgs leiutenant is pretty cool I work for her and have never had a problem.
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