"Borrowing" Cops?
501 openings, and how many up north in 016? Zero! But this is happening?
- Hey SCC, thought you and the other hundreds of Coppers who live in 016 would love this info. For the last 2 weeks 016 has been borrowing 4 pos from 015 to cover the midnight shift. Tonight sat for sun 015 has no bodies to loan, so there are no early cars on midnights. Yes that is correct 6 of 12 cars down tonight.
3rd watch Rapids to work mandatory 2 hours over time and tact starting at 1900 to help cover. But remember there is not a man power shortage.
Safety issue anyone?
Taxpayer coverage issue anyone else?
Taxpayer coverage issue anyone else?
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
108 Comments:
$5700 in taxes and no police service.
The rabid political correctness of this State would be laughable , but only if I didn't live here!
100 plus coppers stripped-some of them for several years. On cases that should have never been sustained or are total bullshit!
Probably 80% could be back on the street tmrw! Thought new sup would undo some of the Weiss era wrongs when he came in.
Hey SCC; How about posting the work sheets from the midnight shifts all around the city (or all the shifts) and maybe post the front office staff's so we see how many are doing NOTHING?
Maybe the Media will pick up on this and embarass the city to start filling these EMPTY SPOTS with Real Bodies and not the RAHM Smoke and Mirror B.S. he is handing out to the community.
The previous Posting of Officer Bailey's Activity sure got results and coverage.
This needs to be done for a few weeks so the public can see what's really out there on the street!
The Taxpayers Deserve to know the TRUTH!
And SCC seems to be the only format that they listen to!
Not sure how wise this is to post.
I understand the outrage of all of the workers in the 16th District, the rage you must feel when you continually get screwed.
I just think posted how short we are can become an alert to the element to even be more bold and head up north for "easy" pickings.
It would be much better to leave 3,4,5,6,7,11 & 15 short staffed on mids, seeing that these areas do not have as much invested in their homes and neighborhoods.
We're being denied comp time due to "manpower shortages". Bosses are claiming some districts may go down to 2 officers allowed CU a night. Anyone else care to weigh in?
Now would be the time to request to leave tact. Every tact guy should request to be placed back on the watch immediatley fill out the to-from.
I personally saw the work sheets today on a visit to 016 to make a report. No early midnight cars!!!!!
Gee that funny cause three has more PO's than beat cars and still has openings!
Off topic, what is with the 99 cars on 1st watch in 006 Why do you officers do that, someone is going to get hurt and the WC is not supposed to put 99 cars up .
These citizens,a.k.a. true taxpaying citizens, should be appalled and outraged about this. They ought to be protesting at City Hall and HQ.
Where's the protest? Nothing from the alderman?
This is exactly how the politicians expect the sheeple to react.
To take officers from a "quiet" tax paying area and redeploy them in an area loaded with the beast is morally wrong and flat out reprehensible.
If these "bad" areas need more officers so be it but it shouldn't come at the expense of a nicer neighborhood.
i did not see one cop all night on milwaukee ave.(except the off duty lads in the bar)
i was not driving,i might add.hic.
Absolutely true, you should have seen the midnight sheets, not one early car up. Early cars to be covered by afternoons and tact.
How about having fop take out full page ads and address this subject in the papers. Have someone in 16 xerox the a&a sheets and print that qs well.
So at what point are people going to be so pissed that they are going to protest outside of headquarters? Protest outside their alderman's office? If you think the criminal element isn't slowly moving into 016 then you are smoking something!
Where is the F.O.P. On this? The 16th Dist rep's should be meeting to address both an on-duty, and off-duty officer safety issue with the F.O.P. If it means sending tact teams to fill in the watch, it needs to be done. Another march on City Hall might get the Mayors attn, we need to start hiring.
021 is the same thing. 2-4 cars down every night and the wagon pretending to be a beat car.
012 had no,zero,nada,zilch Sgts. on the 1st watch Saturday night for Sunday. Then, they couldnt make a decision, should they pay a Saturday night 3rd watch Sgt. overtime to stay and work the 1st watch or get a Sgt. from another district. Unbelieveable.
During my travels in 016 during the day I usually see more cars from other districts than cars from 016.
Check out the sheets in 020! Some beats have NO assigned BEAT CARS!
5 years ago 016 had over 345 officers assigned to it. Today there are 200. The taxpayers in this town get screwed and the savages get treated like royalty!
I guess I will have to don my M4 this evening, put my vest on, strap my .45 XDM on, and go walk the dogs again. I have NO problem defending my neighborhood because there is no one else to do it. Come be part of the problem in 016, I will end this for the bad guy. No Problem.
Is this what they want?
Ready to pay for this lawsuit?
Don't worry all department approved ammunition...
Do they still have that copper who loves to write cops and firefighters and their families?
district can do without tactical
officers wearing blue jeans , arrive late , long roll call , long lunch , maybe a dope pinch , leave early
there are many aggressive officers assigned to a watch , that answer calls , wear uniform , work a full tour and make more arrests than tactical officers
check the numbers of tactical units , not that impressive
disband tactical units , we need 2 man beat cars that work a full tour everyday
how about sending scc a copy of 1st watch sheets from every district
What shortage? The ghetto districts that received the bulk of the MSF/TRU officers have 06 teams, all cars manned, AND are able to give tons on time due.
Gee that funny cause three has more PO's than beat cars and still has openings!
WOW! What a shock! (sarcasm off)
So the working man has to do without while the hordes of welfare recipients keep getting taken care of.
Plus, now my property taxes will be raised to the max and for what? To keep supplying Pookie with free breakfast and lunch?
God, I can't wait....7 more years and I'll be watching this city fade from my rear view mirror.
If you leave policing to the citizens,and that's where this is heading, it won't be pretty. The police play by the rules, the average Joe is not bound by the rules. There will "incidents". Paul Kersey type incidents.
All true regarding 016 shortage. I hope the off duty guys & gals are sticking close to homes with weapons ready. And you might consider a warm & fuzzy get to know with Norridge, Niles, Park Ridge & Sciller Park. They may be our saving grace since down town gives a *&^% about the tax base/payers.
Except for 5 lts 10 sgts and 100 officers that were assigned to 5 areas, word is they will not be going to dists
This is wrong information. I am one of those 100 officers and I am going back to a district. We were told our services were no longer needed.
How about this:
Northwest & Southwest side tax paying citizens place a class action law suit for the theft of services by the city, county and state, in that they raise our taxes while at the same time reducing services.
I they are going to reduce services for the added taxes they must also reduce food stamps, links cards section 8 subsidies etc.
If any of you reading this blog live in 016 you should call your Alderman and demand that they keep us here where we belong. If they have no answer reming him or her that they are elected officials.
No Sergeant on First Watch in 012.
Started off with two scheduled to work the street and an actor on the desk.
Then one got sick and hit the medical the other had to rush his wife to the hospital. There were no spare sergeants to "Borrow" from Area 4.
The only solution available was to pay a Third Watch Sergeant time and a half to be the ONLY Sergeant working over night.
No hiring...
No promotions...
Taxes to pay for 13,000 police...
No coverage in areas we live in...
Taxes spent on "New Americans", The Dream Act and flowerpots...
This really sucks if you work for a living...
So how many people knowing this is going on in the 16th District will
call the 41st Ward Alderman and raise holy hell about all this.
Alderman Mary O’Connor
Office:
6107 N. Northwest Highway
Chicago, IL 60631
Phone: 773.594.8341
Stay safe, if they don't fear us they will continue to cheat us.
I cant wait for the G8 summit. Their going to need the F'n national guard here
Who is the aldermoron up there?
Anon 8/07/2011 03:12:00 AM said:
These citizens,a.k.a. true taxpaying citizens, should be appalled and outraged about this. They ought to be protesting at City Hall and HQ.
Where's the protest? Nothing from the alderman?
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Unless they read this blog, they don't even have a clue that this is happening.
Some of the suburbs and small towns use Dummies (ex CPD bosses will do) placed in squad cars along their roads and intersections to ward off crime. Could work in Chicago. Cops here won't do any more work than a Dummy because they are afraid of getting sacked. The Dummies could be moved around in a U Haul truck to whatever district is short. We could also have Dummies stand behind McGruff at news briefings nodding up and down to agree with all his moronic bullshit. Why pay good money for real cops when we can use Dummies!
Brother is a DOA copper at O'Hare, they are not allowed to carry weapons on duty but off duty it is OK! He told me that the city is buying all of them new bullet proof vests and that after they receive them all cpd coppers will be gone back to the streets any truth to this rumor?
Called the union as i can retire in 2013 at 55 and maxed out,asked if the "55 and out" medical would still be there the answer from the "fearless leader" we are not sure! Anyone of the smart SCC readers have any info? Also asked how many signed up for retirement this Oct? answers:We are not sure! WTF your the supposed union and you have no count? Maybe you should call mike "the kid" shields in that $65,000 Lincoln he bought using "our money" and make him talk! People bitched about Donohue at least he was a MAN and stood up and replied at times,mike is so fucking silent a 1 term guy for sure! Mike are your friends at fop working even a 2 hour day at the hall?? "I need some jobs few no work no show,the others show couple hours full pay don't worry the overworked membership will payout!"
the city is investing in these shit holes and for these ghetto rats like a new sport field for garfield park which marshall and westinghouse has them already..these rats paid the leased and bitch the most..
middle class has no one fighting for us..
Can I please have a cop and I will pay you back Tuesday!
Typical media and politicians of today's time. Reward the jagoffs and punish the working man. This country was built on work hard and get rewarded for the harder you work. Not immmigration who do not want to assimilate to the American way, 1st by speaking English, then working hard. American rule today by politicians and media = don't speak English, don't work and cry about it - receive money, benefits, health care and more - and guess where it comes from - not the politicians or media but yep the real Americans the working class. America will no longer exist with liberal democrats in rule.
Bid to 008, 011 or 015. We are finally in good shape. Thanks Gmac thanks Mayor. Now if you want perks bid to a busy district.
Anonymous said...
These citizens,a.k.a. true taxpaying citizens, should be appalled and outraged about this. They ought to be protesting at City Hall and HQ.
Where's the protest? Nothing from the alderman?
This is exactly how the politicians expect the sheeple to react.
To take officers from a "quiet" tax paying area and redeploy them in an area loaded with the beast is morally wrong and flat out reprehensible.
If these "bad" areas need more officers so be it but it shouldn't come at the expense of a nicer neighborhood.
8/07/2011 03:12:00 AM
" Quite " As long as the good working people stay quite they will get nothing. As much as many of you hate the reverends they get what they want. The 1st Amendment is there for a reason, if you choose to be silent shame on you. Now shut up and do your job.
We're being denied comp time due to "manpower shortages". Bosses are claiming some districts may go down to 2 officers allowed CU a night. Anyone else care to weigh in?
8/07/2011 01:29:00 AM
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Its called DUTY TRADE, make the WATCH COMMANDER pay for him denying your time....Find someone in the district... This is a benefit although not a GREAT benefit but start making use of the benefits we have....
This next contract is going to be all about keeping shit that we have already... City is going to want to negotiate on 90 day details, the ability to move officers etc....
Geee whiz , and the crime ridden Edison Park fest is just a couple of weeks away. The citizens of 016 might have to chip in and hire the magnificent seven for protection!
A 6-year old dies from a gunshot to the chest and NOT ONE SINGLE FAMILY MEMBER went to the hospital to be with her. I fucking hate this job some days. And if I see ONE wailing family member on the news later I think I'm really going to lose my mind.
I was trying to figure out why you still have so many full duty officers working at HQ. Stopped by the 3rd fl. and couldn't help notice so many PO's. I asked how it was that they were still there when the districts are still in need of manpower. The civ. had the same question, she added that they had sent light duty officers back and kept full duty just to show numbers. It's insane how they would rather keep full duty officers behind a desk instead of fully staffing districts. Why count those officers at all they don't belong to the patrol numbers, That is the reason why I joined the KMA club this dept. Doesn't care about us I'm sure 016 isn't the only one have this problem.
I just took a quick glance at the 2012 on-line, in the Dept of Water Management alone there are:
3- Deputy Commissioners
4- Managing Deputy Commissioners
9- Assistant to the Commissioner
13- Assistant Commissioners
4- Project Administrators
7- Administrative Services Officers (what ever that is)
14- Assistant District Superintendents
2- Project Managers
All of the above 56 positions are paid between $92,000 - $110,000+ ,a year. Is it any wonder this city is in the tank.And oh,by the way..No money for the Police
Call police for everything so they cannot justify low manpower because of low service calls.
We're being denied comp time due to "manpower shortages". Bosses are claiming some districts may go down to 2 officers allowed CU a night. Anyone else care to weigh in?
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Doubt it. That time has to be burnt. I am a PO walking off with 3,000 hours on the books. They don't want people to end up like me. Today, with this city, it's all about the Benjamins
Posted as a comment on the Sun-Times web-site story,
"Cop witnesses victim beaten outside Water Tower Place, teen held"
"A motive was not known."
Do you think anyone really believes that nonsense?
There are so few Chicago cops now that no neighborhood in this city is safe. Rahm and McCarthy have cut the CPD down so far some districts have to "borrow" officers and sergeants from other districts just to get a few cars up on midnights. This will get worse unless the citizens bring some heat on the politicians to HIRE MORE POLICE.
We have some bad times coming next year, the G-8 Summit, NATO Conference will produce riots downtown that will spread to the neighborhoods. And, what will happen on election night 2012?
We need to get police, hired trained and in place well before these events and just to keep us safe on the streets and in our homes.
So call and or email your Alderman to HIRE MORE POLICE NOW.
I am from 015 and have worked in 016 a few times. I truely love policing the home front, stopped a few mutts the other night and they were from 015. I almost puked. You working coppers in 016 are really appriciated and I am proud to work with you when I can. But you dog asses in 016 need to wake up and start doing something because the house that is getting broken into may be your own. I believe the super. lives on 1611's beat and I was told that beat often goes unmanned because there are not enough officers to staff the district. I wonder if McNutty knows this? NOT!
This is obviously a problem but, just to set the record straight, although the midnight watch could certainly use more manpower there are approximately 9-10 people on IOD, a couple of people on the medical roll and several people are on furlough. This turned out to be the perfect storm.
Yep...keep on busting your ass for this pathetic fucking department, ladies and gentlemen. Parkers and assorted other revenue-makers REALLY make the upper echelon happy, so be sure to give 'em a couple each a day.
And try not to take it too personally when they deny your CU; the family plans you had will have to be cancelled or rescheduled. You see, the manpower shortage issue is YOUR problem, and you will have to sacrifice to help make things right.
And this just in: McStake and the brain dead BrassHoles to float ideas sometime this week in an attempt to create some citywide response team, complete with "special training" in preparation for the big G8. With the salty taste still lingering in the mouths of dejected TRU & MSF pawns, the 35th Street Think Tank is sweating bullets. Their conundrum? Circumventing the contract to avoid using reverse seniority (getting stuck with less-tenured/experienced officers) when no one with an ounce of grey matter will volunteer to be part of the new "elite" C.R.T. (Citywide Response Team).
Rumors of restricted time due is their way of making patrol unbearable to enough folks to entice them to put in their request for this in-the-making unit.
022, recently, has been fully staffed but there have been nights when only 6 cars are out there on 1st watch. Management will not move manpower around to fill the needs of 1st watch. Patrol has always been the red headed step child of the Department, 1st watch in the step child's step child.
Borrow a few POs from 005. Look at the daily sheets on 3rd watch they are over stuffed. They have every beat covered with a two man car, a two man traffic car, a two man parker car, a wagon, a two man curfew car, 06A through 06I plus the 47 POs sent over from MSF and TRU. Hummmm? Wait don't they have some insane number of openings?
"$5700 in taxes and no police service."
Sheeeit! $5700 property tax bill?
Wanna trade?
I've got guns, alarms and three big pissed off dogs that love to bite that ass...
Throw in a $5700 tax bill and that'll be a real treat!
Count ya blessings...
In thinking of the potentially disasterous G8 summit, has it ever happened or could it happen that Chicago borrow officers from another municipality? I'm thinking there is some sort of liablity problem with that scenario....
To 11:48 am...
Hey dummy, did it ever cross your feeble mind that NO ONE knows if 55 & out health care will be available in 2013 BECAUSE OUR CONTRACT EXPIRES 30 JUNE 2012.
That will have to be renegotiated come contract time.
And if you absolutely must be a nosey jagoff worried about other coppers' life plans, 46 have EXPRESSED INTEREST IN RETIRING THIS OCTOBER. That is not to say that 46 WILL retire...there's A LOT of steps to take when retiring, so that's why you got the "we're not sure" answer. Many coppers (like YOUR dumb ass) underestimate the amount of planning that goes into retiring, so they often postpone doing so. If you would've done your retirement "homework" you would've known these things, but intelligence obviously isn't your strong suit.
In closing, don't begrudge "The Kid" Shields because he seized an opportunity. He put his money where his mouth is and made a successful run at something you don't have the testicular fortitude to even attempt. Douche bags like yourself would rather sit anonymously behind a keyboard constantly inflating the price (what are we up to now, 65K?) of a vehicle that the MEMBERSHIP OWNS and Shields uses in the interest of the MEMBERSHIP. He isn't lugging the wife and kids up to the Dells in the fucking car.
Glad you're retiring, crybaby, as I don't really see you as an asset in any way, shape or form to the poor schlep that might get stuck in a beat car with you for a tour. Now play detective and see if you can figure out who I am. (Hint: I work at 1412 W. Washington).
Why don't we start working one of our days off each week, manpower issued solved.Lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant wait for the G8 summit. Their going to need the F'n national guard here
8/07/2011 11:03:00 AM
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Pittsburgh's G-20 a couple of years ago had three National Guard soldiers and a humvee at every checkpoint, along with two P.O.'s (loaners from other cities) while the Pittsburgh PD handled their regular calls...most of the heavy crowd control was handled by Pittsburgh PD's SWAT.
>>>Anonymous said...
Anon 8/07/2011 03:12:00 AM said:
These citizens,a.k.a. true taxpaying citizens, should be appalled and outraged about this. They ought to be protesting at City Hall and HQ.
Where's the protest? Nothing from the alderman?
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Unless they read this blog, they don't even have a clue that this is happening.
8/07/2011 11:30:00 AM<<<
So call and email your Alderman, tell your friends, family and neighbors.
And post true comments on the Trib and Sun-Times and Chicago Breaking News comment sections. Make them harsh, but honest and no name calling or race baiting.
Who is the aldermoron up there?
8/07/2011 11:27:00 AM
41st: Mary O'Connor
45th: John Arena
38th: Cullerton
If you leave policing to the citizens,and that's where this is heading, it won't be pretty. The police play by the rules, the average Joe is not bound by the rules. There will "incidents". Paul Kersey type incidents.
8/07/2011 10:14:00 AM
survival of the fittest is never pretty.
but it's always pretty damn effective.
as long as you are one of the fittest.
God, I can't wait....7 more years and I'll be watching this city fade from my rear view mirror.
8/07/2011 09:56:00 AM
that's optimistic of you.
middle class has no one fighting for us..
8/07/2011 11:52:00 AM
the Lord fights for those who fight for themselves.
Do they still have that copper who loves to write cops and firefighters and their families?
8/07/2011 09:34:00 AM
which one?
Can I please have a cop and I will pay you back Tuesday!
8/07/2011 12:04:00 PM
i will gladly pay you Tuesday, for an officer today.
Bid to 008, 011 or 015. We are finally in good shape. Thanks Gmac thanks Mayor. Now if you want perks bid to a busy district.
8/07/2011 12:24:00 PM
Remember this post when you see the next directive from G-Mack regarding beat integrity. Coming soon..
A 6-year old dies from a gunshot to the chest and NOT ONE SINGLE FAMILY MEMBER went to the hospital to be with her. I fucking hate this job some days. And if I see ONE wailing family member on the news later I think I'm really going to lose my mind.
8/07/2011 01:35:00 PM
This just makes me really sad. As the years go on, I see more and more disregard for human life. Whether it be the senseless killing over territory, of the lack of caring for ones child. As a pretty optomistic person, I am slowly becoming more and more cynical as the days pass. I go to work, try to take care of my officers as best I can, make sure I get home, and when I do I always peek in on my 1 year old sleeping, and just whisper that I love you. Cus there in such a lack of love in society. I don't care anymore about the citizens that make up the district that I work in. They will get, until I see a change in their approach to life, only the bare minimum of what is expected of me.
The Department is messed up. The establishment would rather have a window dressing (political appointment of command) than compentent leaders to restore the luster that is gone. Society too, wants that window dressing, becus they magically believe that is the best thing, to have someone in charge that "looks like he belongs in that area", instead of the best person for the job.
There are no solutions to these problems, people have tried to change it to no avail, and until we change the mentality of everyone involved, we are just pissing in the wind.
Its because officers are bidding out. Four more next period. Look no further than bosses to see why.
that's what happens when were several thousand officers short, we continue to lose about 30-40 every month to retirement, death, suicide, etc and the city still refuses to hire the police we need. they love shuffling those numbers and lying to the public. it's down right sickening.
Dismantle the Area Task Force teams and assign them to midnights throughout the City.
district can do without tactical
officers wearing blue jeans , arrive late , long roll call , long lunch , maybe a dope pinch , leave early
there are many aggressive officers assigned to a watch , that answer calls , wear uniform , work a full tour and make more arrests than tactical officers
check the numbers of tactical units , not that impressive
disband tactical units , we need 2 man beat cars that work a full tour everyday
The above post is totally correct, and before you start bashing I am on tact.
The simple answer to solve this problem is for all tact officers to put in a to-from requesting to go back to the watch immediately. If tact officers are not willing to back up their fellow officers on the watch then they are all showing their true colors. Also, before the bs begins I left tact 10 months ago because I saw the writing on the wall. Lets see if tact guys are really all that they believe they are. If they don't leave and go back to the watch, they are nothing but selfish.
Anonymous said...
"Off topic, what is with the 99 cars on 1st watch in 006 Why do you officers do that, someone is going to get hurt and the WC is not supposed to put 99 cars up ."
8/07/2011 02:36:00 AM
Clueless 1st watch "bosses."
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To 11:48 am...
Hey dummy, did it ever cross your feeble mind that NO ONE knows if 55 & out health care will be available in 2013 BECAUSE OUR CONTRACT EXPIRES 30 JUNE 2012.
That will have to be renegotiated come contract time.
And if you absolutely must be a nosey jagoff worried about other coppers' life plans, 46 have EXPRESSED INTEREST IN RETIRING THIS OCTOBER. That is not to say that 46 WILL retire...there's A LOT of steps to take when retiring, so that's why you got the "we're not sure" answer. Many coppers (like YOUR dumb ass) underestimate the amount of planning that goes into retiring, so they often postpone doing so. If you would've done your retirement "homework" you would've known these things, but intelligence obviously isn't your strong suit.
In closing, don't begrudge "The Kid" Shields because he seized an opportunity. He put his money where his mouth is and made a successful run at something you don't have the testicular fortitude to even attempt. Douche bags like yourself would rather sit anonymously behind a keyboard constantly inflating the price (what are we up to now, 65K?) of a vehicle that the MEMBERSHIP OWNS and Shields uses in the interest of the MEMBERSHIP. He isn't lugging the wife and kids up to the Dells in the fucking car.
Glad you're retiring, crybaby, as I don't really see you as an asset in any way, shape or form to the poor schlep that might get stuck in a beat car with you for a tour. Now play detective and see if you can figure out who I am. (Hint: I work at 1412 W. Washington).
8/07/2011 05:22:00 PM
THANKS RICH!
district can do without tactical
officers wearing blue jeans , arrive late , long roll call , long lunch , maybe a dope pinch , leave early
there are many aggressive officers assigned to a watch , that answer calls , wear uniform , work a full tour and make more arrests than tactical officers
check the numbers of tactical units , not that impressive
disband tactical units , we need 2 man beat cars that work a full tour everyday
The above post is totally correct, and before you start bashing I am on tact.
8/07/2011 09:23:00 PM
But apparently.....not in a working District.
I’m not a mathematician so I need some help with this question. How can 13% of a country’s population be responsible for the overwhelming majority of its problems? Can someone please enlighten me?
8/07/2011 07:25:00 AM
Yes. It's because the other 87% of the population allows it to happen.
POOR GUYS IN 016 DONT EVEN KNOW WHO UR ALDERMAN IS!
I HAVE A FEELING U R THE GUYS NOT REGISTERED TO VOTE.
I HAVE AN OFFICER WALKING DOWN THE STREET EVERY DAY WRITING TICKETS.
OH WELL IT IS ACTIVITY
Anonymous said...
middle class has no one fighting for us..
8/07/2011 11:52:00 AM
Than maybe its time for you to start fighting for yourself.
The real problem is that the bosses that live in the 16th district don't have the stones to speak up to the powers that be and tell them that we need help! I'm sure the same goes for the southside districts where the police live. We pay A LOT of our salaries in taxes to live where we live and deserve to know that if there is a problem while we are working, there will be a few officers to respond. I won't do the usual,"bid to 16 and help us", because downtown obviously doesn't give a flying fuck about the 16th district and is so worried about filling the ghetto districts. I don't want to move to the ghetto to see a police car every now and then. I would love to see some of the officers from TRU/MSF working to keep the homeland safe. Please, to the bigshots of the CPD, give a fuck about us and give us what we deserve. MORE POLICE! Why does the ghetto deserve more police than us? The ghetto mutts roll up to 16 and 17 and there isn't enough police to stop all of them. Fuck the ghetto, I want my family to feel safe while I'm at work! Like I said, the taxpayers deserve to feel safe too.
"I was trying to figure out why you still have so many full duty officers working at HQ."
Because they're actually doing the nuts-and-bolts day-to-day running of the department.
The bosses just take the credit. Most of them were never really the police anyway, so they need someone who's actually been there.
Worry about you, not about what somebody else is doing.
"If they don't leave and go back to the watch, they are nothing but selfish."
Have you ever read this blog before?
Unfortunately, the department is full of back-stabbing, "me first" types who spend all their time worried about what the next guy is getting, what time he starts, what time he goes home, how long his lunch is, etc.
Back in the early 90's, when I worked in 024, it wasn't unusual to come to roll call and see 6 people at each roll call. One for each beat car and 2, 2 man wagons. No rapids, not late cars from 3rd watch. Just us.
The difference was, you got a call and the entire sector, if not watch, would show up. If you wanted the night off, even last minute, it was given and we did what needed to be done. You backed each other up, not only because it was the right thing to do, but because when you wanted TD, you knew the rest of the watch would handled business!
The 20th district? Nothing is going there! Send them to 16!
Every copper that lives in 016 should drop an overtime slip since you have to patrol your own homefront!
Beat 1611 on 3rd watch is usually down 5 days a week. They use the wagon to cover that beat.
I thought G-Mac was big on beat integrity.
Hell this isn't even district integrity. Methinks something's rotten in Denmark.
All this Tact bashing is useless. Yes, they make stupid, useless arrests, but they are out there doing some work. I had a traffic stop the other night and a couple of our Tact officers swung by to make sure I was OK. It's a little thing, I know, but if I needed help, they were there. Our other beat cars and Sgt's stop when they see the lights also. If you have a hot job or a traffic stop, you can be certain that another car will take a look to see if all is well. I work in one of the slower districts, but we do look out for each other and I'm proud to say that.
They changed 014 Tact team's hours too. 2030 start.
Why don't we start working one of our days off each week, manpower issued solved.Lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8/07/2011 05:23:00
How about go fuck yourself. I hate being at this job any second more than I have to. I enjoy my time off with my family. Get a life and do the same.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To 11:48 am...
Hey dummy, did it ever cross your feeble mind that NO ONE knows if 55 & out health care will be available in 2013 BECAUSE OUR CONTRACT EXPIRES 30 JUNE 2012.
That will have to be renegotiated come contract time.
And if you absolutely must be a nosey jagoff worried about other coppers' life plans, 46 have EXPRESSED INTEREST IN RETIRING THIS OCTOBER. That is not to say that 46 WILL retire...there's A LOT of steps to take when retiring, so that's why you got the "we're not sure" answer. Many coppers (like YOUR dumb ass) underestimate the amount of planning that goes into retiring, so they often postpone doing so. If you would've done your retirement "homework" you would've known these things, but intelligence obviously isn't your strong suit.
In closing, don't begrudge "The Kid" Shields because he seized an opportunity. He put his money where his mouth is and made a successful run at something you don't have the testicular fortitude to even attempt. Douche bags like yourself would rather sit anonymously behind a keyboard constantly inflating the price (what are we up to now, 65K?) of a vehicle that the MEMBERSHIP OWNS and Shields uses in the interest of the MEMBERSHIP. He isn't lugging the wife and kids up to the Dells in the fucking car.
Glad you're retiring, crybaby, as I don't really see you as an asset in any way, shape or form to the poor schlep that might get stuck in a beat car with you for a tour. Now play detective and see if you can figure out who I am. (Hint: I work at 1412 W. Washington).
8/07/2011 05:22:00 PM
THANKS RICH!
8/07/2011 11:32:00 PM
uh Rich, the guy is correct,I have emailed many of you at fop and never receive a response,why do we even pay so you can have an email account? as far as Mike the fact is he bought a fancy new car and refused the FOP7 plate to better hide his intentions why not buy a new small Chevy Cruze? Why spend $60,000 of money that is not yours? Why buy all the new furniture for fop offices? Why not on the updates page keep us apprised of how many are planning to retire with 55 and out? Do you work a full day for us?jagoff!
so like the airport is done?
Last weekend I was walking home late from the McCartney concert in 16. Some jamoke in a van stopped and then backed up after seeing me. Instinctively, I crossed Milwaukee and gave him a look communicating that I'd rip his spleen out if he came near me. I'm a pretty good size woman, so he thought better of it and took off.
I was unnerved, but kept moving, lit cigarette in one hand, keys clenched between my fingers in the other. I noticed that there were no squad cars cruising Milwaukee. It was around 00:30 hours.
Forget taking public transportation and walking two blocks. Next time I'll take my car and fight traffic.
how about sending scc a copy of 1st watch sheets from every district
8/07/2011 09:36:00 AM
Sure stupid....great idea...everyone should know our names and beats....
Where is the FOP who fought for us PO's to work our days off when the watch was short. The city and fop have been sitting on there hands and wont define how many po's per watch per district so we can be hired back.
So far I am not impressed with the new FOP
uh Rich, the guy is correct,I have emailed many of you at fop and never receive a response,why do we even pay so you can have an email account? as far as Mike the fact is he bought a fancy new car and refused the FOP7 plate to better hide his intentions why not buy a new small Chevy Cruze? Why spend $60,000 of money that is not yours? Why buy all the new furniture for fop offices? Why not on the updates page keep us apprised of how many are planning to retire with 55 and out? Do you work a full day for us?jagoff!
8/08/2011 01:09:00 PM
Yes, a big-city union president should most definitely be driving a motor scooter. And, he should transport visitors and others who he engages on our behalf via a little wire basket on the handlebars.
GET OVER THE CAR, people. YOU own the car. It's a UNION asset and it will be a UNION asset for many years to come, likely beyond Shields' tenure and the tenure of the president who follows him.
Get real about how adult businessmen conduct business. The lack of understanding about how people operate in business is why we haven't been taken seriously up to now.
It's why people like Emanuel and Quinn dismiss us. If a nice car and a fine scotch help move the machine along, so be it.
As for answering emails, well, maybe they could be polite and start doing that. Because adults in business actually DO respond to emails.
How about go fuck yourself. I hate being at this job any second more than I have to. I enjoy my time off with my family. Get a life and do the same.
8/08/2011 10:50:00 AM
Then why don't you leave and find that other job which pays 55-75 G a year, you get about 20-30 days off, the ability to get 1 year of paid medical, and has job security like this one does. Oh, and do nothing all day like I will guaranfuckingtee you do.
Stay safe!
Unfortunately, the department is full of back-stabbing, "me first" types who spend all their time worried about what the next guy is getting, what time he starts, what time he goes home, how long his lunch is, etc.
GOOD POINT.
But apparently.....not in a working District.
Please explain what the above statement means.
how about sending scc a copy of 1st watch sheets from every district
8/07/2011 09:36:00 AM
Sure stupid....great idea...everyone should know our names and beats....
8/08/2011 03:13:00 PM
You do have a name tag on your shirt and a beat tag on top of your squad car. It's not a big secret.
"I was trying to figure out why you still have so many full duty officers working at HQ."
Because they're actually doing the nuts-and-bolts day-to-day running of the department.
The bosses just take the credit. Most of them were never really the police anyway, so they need someone who's actually been there.
Worry about you, not about what somebody else is doing.
8/08/2011 01:19:00 AM
It's people like you that this department does not need. I won't call you officer because the title fits you big. Just because you have a mouth doesn't mean you need to speak. In case you didn't know civ. are paid to do those jobs. If you need to get into nut and bolts and day to day functions, Civ. are the fingerprint experts, civ. clear arrest reports when the districts are in a bind, civ. audit criminal records and in case you didn't know each one of these positions make close to six figures. Make the civ. work for their pay allow the police to help at the district level is what I said. If people like you are afraid I'm sure there's an office spot for you. Next time you pay respect to any of my fellow officers make sure you tell yourself, "they should have only worried about themselves".
HATER said...
POOR GUYS IN 016 DONT EVEN KNOW WHO UR ALDERMAN IS!
8/07/2011 11:59:00 PM
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The empty Arena (SEIU-45) is our alderman unfortunately in the east part of the 16th district.
"It's people like you that this department does not need."
I've been here over twenty years. The department doesn't "need" any of us. Get over yourself.
"I won't call you officer because the title fits you big."
What?
"Just because you have a mouth doesn't mean you need to speak."
This blog is an of ideas. Your opinion has the same value as mine.
"In case you didn't know civ. are paid to do those jobs."
Not all of them. Look around.
"If people like you are afraid I'm sure there's an office spot for you."
Kid, I can show you two GSW scars and a knife wound. Don't give me your crap.
"Next time you pay respect to any of my fellow officers make sure you tell yourself, 'they should have only worried about themselves'."
You've got some nerve, officer. See above.
For thos that think that HQ is just bursting at the seems with P.O's, think again! it is bare bones. There are not many officers left in the building to move out. There are still quite a few civilians, alot of which are some director or manager, making well over 6 figures, with minimal tasks, other than telling subordinates what to do. I'd rather have a P.O. in there with access to, and handling, sensitive info, personal data etc. Put the light duty people in there. Also, free up the mia's being held captive in callback already. Next, all the light duty people should be ineligable for any promotions; seen it too many times, people are light duty and unfit for the street UNTIL they get test results, then miraculously enough, they are cleared for full duty, just in time for that promotion to det or sgt; it's bullshit and shouldn't happen. ( I know we haven't had any promotions, but when we do, we'll see this again.)
On 63rd st by Midway area there's armed security guys on bike's..Who are these guys? Anyone know if they are a private company hired by the city to do bike patrols?
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