6 PM on Channel 5
Channel 5 is doing a story about the tremendous jump in homicide numbers for January. We'll provide a link when they get it up on the website.
Now if they'd just tie it into the numbers game know as CompStat.
Now if they'd just tie it into the numbers game know as CompStat.
Some basic investigative reporting might reveal a number of shady accounting of crime and the accompanying statistics.
UPDATE: Link is here.
posted by SCC at 3:00 PM
57 Comments:
rahms foundation is crumbling on multiple fronts!!THE PEOPLE HAVE AWOKEN TO YOUR GAMES!
Article in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend. I don't have the link, so I'll do the short version:
The tremendous drop in crime in NY was attributed not only to COMPSTAT, but to a huge increase in HIRINGS. They may have cooked the books to some degree, but they are talking about an 80% decrease in homicides, shootings and burglaries.
This drop is attributed to having coppers EVERYWHERE to prevent the crimes from happening. Just because the mope couldn't rob a guy today didn't mean he would automatically rob a guy tomorrow. Often the crime just didn't occur. Now we have not only less crime, but less offenders we have to pay to house. They claim a net savings of 2 billion for not having to house them! I haven't done the article justice, read it and see if you don't agree.
Holding the Commanders accountable helps expose the underperformers, but the big thing we are missing here is the bodies to prevent the crimes. With a 2 billion dollar savings, you can hire, put more money back into the economy, fund the pension AND the taxpayers are safer. More with less isn't cutting it.
This is national news and it is being spun as positive. I bet McMoustache has a copy
http://m.wired.com/underwire/2011/12/police-brutality-coloring-book/
NO WAY. I can't believe this.
Last time I checked the price was $60.60 on Amazon.com. (no tax/ free shipping) but you have to wait almost a month.
I wonder if we can get a quanity discount.
Anyone have any insight on this new open applications for Fugitive Apprehension???
It seems to me that it is a round about way of filling in the MFF failure.
I would like to work in fugitive at some point but not at the risk of becoming some Englewood/West Side saturation team with no contractual rights.
next police contract
look for a 5 % raise over 5 years
city will start with a 5 % pay cut demand , no uniform allowance
SCC... CHECK OUT ABC7...
McSTUPID just advocated that the public should commit felonies by RECORDING POs on audio, fully aware that it is against the law.
WTF is wrong with this guy?
Could he REALLY BE THIS STUPID?
Shields, I want a raise come May.
91 days till MAY 1ST. HA
I joined the CPD in the mid '60's after graduating from college. I was assigned to a district with the highest UCR crime rate in the city.
On my own time in the review office, I would take district beat maps and geographically map the locations of Part I index crimes in my district, using multi-colored dots indicating the specific classification of Part I crimes. I (both with and without a partner) made an extraordinary number of felony arrests, partly as a result of this collated data.
Educate me.
Aside from the dissemination of identical "hotspot" data to the district commander and whiteshirts, how does my method (or push-pins in a map) differ from CompStat?
The 63 team is slacking off. Coming from 2 blocks away.
No... They're not going to link the increase in shootings and the discredited Voodoo Policing theory known as Compstat... Too many people fully vested in keeping the illusion going. Like...
The smartest mayor in the history of Chicago.
The smartest most tech savvy police c.e.o. who prides himself on touting his peculiar genius in "re-inventing" the bedrock principles set forth by Sir Robert Peel.
(very hard to type that with a straight face)
Hush that loose & idle talk SCC!
It simply cannot be revealed that these "smart" people have no answers to the current crisis of organizational paralysis and Daley left-over suckholes trying desperately to have a chair when the music stops playing while 9.5 tries to machine-gun the band through the mail slot...
Watch out, those who apply to Fugitives. This is for those who want to be plainclothes and drive around in the "box" in 007 and 011.This is not your fathers fugitive unit, new Lt and Commander The new guys wont be Deputy U.S Marshall so no O.T. This is going to be glorified tact team just trying to get warrant arrests and invest. alerts. and tons of reports. FYI they will be deployed for G8/Nato.
Anonymous said...
Anyone have any insight on this new open applications for Fugitive Apprehension???
It seems to me that it is a round about way of filling in the MFF failure.
I would like to work in fugitive at some point but not at the risk of becoming some Englewood/West Side saturation team with no contractual rights.
1/30/2012 03:55:00 PM
Then don't apply because that's exactly what you'll be part of-a saturation/warrant mission team with no contractual rights. They'll change your furlough at the drop of a hat. Not to mention the day off changes to keep you from making as little overtime as possible.Gee, where do I sign up?
Papers reporting Rahm gave over 6 million to store front reverands for after school programs! My question is WHY? When I was growing up we NEVER had anything like that. If these same reverands are so concerned they could do the job for free why do we need to pay them with my tax dollars!
Lot's of "smoke and mirrors"!
Where there is smoke, there is also FIRE!
Da Pelon
The goof ball Masuel from the civic federation is calling for ALL pensions in Illinois including people already on retirement to be slashed in HALF.
This guy supported Daley and his thiefing for 20 years and NOW says we need to cut the workers benefits they paid for and earned!
May he and Daley burn in Hell!!!!
About friging time someone from the media caught on.
Smoke and mirrors seems to be the norm now a days. Thought people were getting wiser, when a political assholes talks, don't listen, just watch what they do, it's always different then what the words are....
Will Gov. Quinn toss out the Racoon's Speed Camera Bill? Almost sounds like he is going to shitcan this POS legislation. We are all fed up with being raped by our politicians. Just ride the expressways and see what the tolls now cost. What the fuck is going on in this state?
Off the record. Gov. Quinn to give speech regarding pensions on Wednesday,maybe a good day for unions to start planning for massive demonstrations in Springfield.Lawrence Msall and the civic federation are
trying to steal our pensions. Lawrence is collecting a pension, let's try to find out how much he collects a year.I believe we ALL would love to have his PENSION!!!!!!!!!!
SCC,
You should post the article in the link below. It brings up valid concerns about the end of McGoofy's run in Newark.
Seems like he has more than enough time to go on Channel 7 for a face-to-face interview and advocate committing felonies against the police, yet when people want to talk about homicide rates, he's "not available for comment"
http://mobile.nj.com/advnj/pm_106636/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=uPfbUK0r
They don't come much dumber than 5:42 PM.
Hey Hair Gel, the contract expires 30 Jun 12. Referencing past CPD contract negotiations since forever and barring a miracle, we won't have a NEW contract for a few years. At no time between current contract's end and the beginning of the following contract will you, or any of us, see a raise beyond contractually guaranteed step raises, DUMMY.
So unless President Shields decides to throw you a little bump in pay out of his own pocket, you should actually & realistically expect your check amount to DECREASE if/when the federal payroll tax break lapses next month. But judging by your ignorance of your own livelihood, I wouldn't expect you to know about this 'little' thing either.
So stick to what you know and do best. Which, were I a gambling man, would guess to be posting uneducated shit on blogs from the confines of your bedroom in Mom's dark and dank basement.
"Shields, I want a raise come May", says Officer Asshat.
You'd better hope and pray that we don't end up losing anything that those before us fought so hard to gain. Put down the Xbox for a little while and educate yourself on the things that will effect the rest of your CPD career.
And ease up on the 'product'. It seems to have seeped thru your cranium and affected the thing that was once your brain.
There are no jobs and affordable housing let alone enough officers here. Wait until the summer when the surge of violence really kicks in...
next police contract
look for a 5 % raise over 5 years
city will start with a 5 % pay cut demand , no uniform allowance
1/30/2012 04:54:00 PM
will you please shut up. get a life.
Compstat -- DOC-- all ways for the computers to use pin maps
Just got my copy from Amazon today! Took a few days but did cost sixty bucks. Should be an interesting read, and a way to cover my ass. The city won't look out for me. I'll look out for myself.
Well, well, what's happening here?
Three Chicago companies give back $34 million in tax breaks
You know damn well these corporations are not going to give back money out of the goodness of their own hearts right?
Is the heat on...how's that MF Global banking operation with ties to the CME group going where millions of dollars went missing.. or are the taxpayers being set-up for an even bigger tax break deal shortly down the road?
Maybe you come out better not using TIF money for building improvements right before an apocalypse eh?
I would imagine it depends on your insurance coverage though.
Nevertheless, even if we take our conspiracy theorist hat off for the moment it's a mess. The tax breaks to save jobs is bullshit.
Illinois political apparatus was bragging again the other day about 1,600 new jobs being created in Belvidere Chrysler plant.
Heh but check it out... because they left out the part about the jobs being temporary part-time jobs to get around the unions
Meanwhile hidden off the front pages of Chicago's MSM 700 Layoffs planed for Abbot labs. Caterpillar blows away earnings expectations up 58% which one would expect to be good news for Illinoisans. But guess what? Cat also is wrapping up a deal to outsource some manufacturing to Wis. 300 NEW JOBS IN WISCONSIN!
Oh and guess what kind of jobs? Welding..the very industry that Ralm was promoting that prior college graduates should go back to school and be retrained to do.
All the core problems are still there. Nothing has changed. Goodbye jobs -- goodbye tax revenue -- goodbye standard of living.
So unless President Shields decides to throw you a little bump in pay out of his own pocket, you should actually & realistically expect your check amount to DECREASE if/when the federal payroll tax break lapses next month. But judging by your ignorance of your own livelihood, I wouldn't expect you to know about this 'little' thing either.
Hey Einstein! We do not pay the payroll tax. Dipshit!
Trib headline reads:
Emanuel won't say if backers getting city money amounts to patronage
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Whaddaya mean he won't say? What happened to all the transparency in government election campaign rhetoric ?
Repeat after me: "WHO'S MONEY -- OUR MONEY!!!" you work for us mister we don't work for you. Where's OUR money being spent?
Any specifics on any anti-pension statements from Laurence J. MSALL, President, The Civic Federation?
www.CivicFed.org
What's with the Sgt. in 016 who keeps asking for a DOC mission number? Duh, we haven't even had DOC areas for years. Even the focus missions are a thing of the past, Sarge.
Shields uses a quote from SCC
From the Trib article
Shields maintained that if the department takes credit for five days without a single murder, it must be prepared to take the blame when murders rise.
“If they’re going to take credit for the good, they have to take credit for the bad,” he said.
Ahhh yes. The consequences from the city shutting down of our mental health centers have begun...
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Report: Man tried to stab Walgreens pharmacist over prescription
Only the beginning.
I believe that the state is funding Obama and the democratic party. That is why it is bankrupt.
Using all the funds, highway, taxes, etc to re elect Obama.
Please think about it.
G8 protesters better not burn the US Flag in front of me. i will take action. Too many of my buds have died for the flag and all it represents. Fuk them. I know they have the right but I don't care get the CR#. I WIll take a stand and I hope they resist arrest-Semper Fi
The CPD was pin-mapping crime before McCarthy was born. What else is "new"?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Can the people who work in the DOC list their education background. I know for a fact that over 90% of them do not have a stong background in statistics.If someone dares to disagree with me than list the names of those pseudo expert analyst that have a degree in mathmatics or had taken at least 3 college level statistics courses.
Laurence Msall is the President of The Civic Federation. Msall joined the 118-year-old tax policy and government research organization in January of 2002. The Civic Federation is an independent, non-partisan government research organization founded in 1894 whose membership includes business and professional leaders from a wide range of Chicago area corporations, professional service firms and institutions. The Civic Federation seeks to assist public policy opinion leaders in the Chicago area and to advance issues such as property tax reform, tax simplification, privatization, and joint purchasing with the objective of improving governmental efficiency and financial accountability.
Before joining The Civic Federation, Msall was the Senior Advisor for Economic Development for Illinois Governor George H. Ryan. Msall was responsible for the oversight of eleven of the state’s economic development and infrastructure-related agencies including the Departments of Commerce and Community Affairs, Revenue, Transportation, and the state’s housing and other development authorities. Appointed as Senior Advisor in February 1999, Msall worked closely with the Governor and his staff on issues related to business climate, tax and transportation policy.... http://tinyurl.com/Enemy-Laurence-Msall
McCarthy supports audio recording of police
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/video?id=8524806&pid=8524797
Chalkie! I saw you on TV! How are you doing buddy? I missed you. Glad to see you're back.
Stop the presses. Is America safe no more? Demi Moore was sticking empty Ready Whip cans up her schnozzola to inhale the intoxicants? Oh the humanity! What's next a G-8 Jello Shot Party?
I was hired in the early 1980's. I remember the crime maps with the push pins. Current month and previous month maintained by the review officer.
Toward the late 80's, we got sophisticated and started using computers. The review officer used the computer to draw the map.....then put the push pins in it.
Took him another couple of years to figure out how to have the computer draw the crime dots.
Crime stats have ALWAYS been a suspect set of figures.
Crime stats are based on crime reported to the police. In some crimes, most are not reported to the police.
The estimates of real vs. reported crimes are interesting. About the only two crimes stats that are somewhat reliable are murders (dead bodies tend to get noticed) and vehicle theft (people generally want their cars back.)
Everything else is questionable. Especially in Chicago, where our numbers are said to be so cooked the FBI doesn't include Chicago crime stats in its national tabulation.
I joined the CPD in the mid '60's after graduating from college. I was assigned to a district with the highest UCR crime rate in the city.
On my own time in the review office, I would take district beat maps and geographically map the locations of Part I index crimes in my district, using multi-colored dots indicating the specific classification of Part I crimes. I (both with and without a partner) made an extraordinary number of felony arrests, partly as a result of this collated data.
Educate me.
Aside from the dissemination of identical "hotspot" data to the district commander and whiteshirts, how does my method (or push-pins in a map) differ from CompStat?
1/30/2012 06:38:00 PM
Well, let's see.
It differs in that you actually cared about what you were doing and it wasn't just about a paycheck.
It differs because what you did cost less - far less - than having several clouted wunderkind do it.
It differs because no computers were required and there was less possibility of cooking the books.
Hey, I hope you're enjoying your retirement. Sounds like you deserve it.
OT: "Shared sacrifice" strikes again!
Contract time is coming.
Many City Council salaries rise in tough economy
19 aldermen take every raise they can
Meanwhile, three of their colleagues declined every raise since 2008...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-chicago-aldermen-salaries-20120130,0,2113353.story
rb
G8 protesters better not burn the US Flag in front of me. i will take action. Too many of my buds have died for the flag and all it represents. Fuk them. I know they have the right but I don't care get the CR#. I WIll take a stand and I hope they resist arrest-Semper Fi
Nah, they want you to do that.
30DEC2011 New York Times had an article about the police in the trenches making an effort not to formally make reports. No report, no crime. Could that explain their drop in crime? Of course that would never happen in Chicago.
G8 protesters better not burn the US Flag in front of me. i will take action. Too many of my buds have died for the flag and all it represents. Fuk them. I know they have the right but I don't care get the CR#. I WIll take a stand and I hope they resist arrest-Semper Fi
1/30/2012 09:43:00 PM
Your friends did not die for a flag. They died for a country, for a grand concept and for people's right to freely express themselves, even to burn flags.
Don't be baited by people who aren't worth your time or energy.
The superintendent told the media that he is confident the number of homicides will go down ......... get this ........ when the number of shootings go down!
Man, this guy is a freakin' genius. He should devise a way to harvest his brain power as an alternative source of renewable energy. He could power everything east of the mississippi.
We just grow grains and hops, ferment them into beer to fuel his addled brain. Then we use a flux capacitor to capture the energy of his "smarts" and use that to heat our homes and run our cars.
914 took it hook, line and sinker. Thanks for confirming the original posters point, jackhole. You must be the same dude asking Shields for that raise in May LOL!!! I hope I wasnt the only one to get the "sarcasm and silliness" behind WSIDN post. God help the CPD. if OWS and the likes were smart they'd save their cash for better things than effing with us in May and just let nature take its course and let the CPD destory itself from within as it's been doing since they let the gel heads in. No common sense but can play video games all day. I hope I'm not standing next to you when the SHTF junior, youd probably try and bond with those clowns and cry over weed not being legal.
Papers reporting Rahm gave over 6 million to store front reverands for after school programs! My question is WHY? When I was growing up we NEVER had anything like that. If these same reverands are so concerned they could do the job for free why do we need to pay them with my tax dollars!
1/30/2012 07:08:00 PM
AMEN on that-our tax dollars at work-wonder what kind of wink-wink deal Swan Lake has with the Revruns...make me sick, along with the who gets a parking ticket during church on Sunday and who doesn't.
--No Cop Here
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
They don't come much dumber than 5:42 PM.
Hey Hair Gel, the contract expires 30 Jun 12. Referencing past CPD contract negotiations since forever and barring a miracle, we won't have a NEW contract for a few years. At no time between current contract's end and the beginning of the following contract will you, or any of us, see a raise beyond contractually guaranteed step raises, DUMMY.
So unless President Shields decides to throw you a little bump in pay out of his own pocket, you should actually & realistically expect your check amount to DECREASE if/when the federal payroll tax break lapses next month. But judging by your ignorance of your own livelihood, I wouldn't expect you to know about this 'little' thing either.
So stick to what you know and do best. Which, were I a gambling man, would guess to be posting uneducated shit on blogs from the confines of your bedroom in Mom's dark and dank basement.
"Shields, I want a raise come May", says Officer Asshat.
I'm not 5:42PM. But there is a tiny problem with your argument Mr. Westside. We never got the payroll tax reduction. We don't pay social security. That is where the "payroll tax deduction" came from. The SS rate went from 6.2% to 4.2%.
Oooops.....
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
They don't come much dumber than 5:42 PM.
Hey Hair Gel, the contract expires 30 Jun 12. Referencing past CPD contract negotiations since forever and barring a miracle, we won't have a NEW contract for a few years. At no time between current contract's end and the beginning of the following contract will you, or any of us, see a raise beyond contractually guaranteed step raises, DUMMY.
So unless President Shields decides to throw you a little bump in pay out of his own pocket, you should actually & realistically expect your check amount to DECREASE if/when the federal payroll tax break lapses next month. But judging by your ignorance of your own livelihood, I wouldn't expect you to know about this 'little' thing either.
So stick to what you know and do best. Which, were I a gambling man, would guess to be posting uneducated shit on blogs from the confines of your bedroom in Mom's dark and dank basement.
"Shields, I want a raise come May", says Officer Asshat.
You'd better hope and pray that we don't end up losing anything that those before us fought so hard to gain. Put down the Xbox for a little while and educate yourself on the things that will effect the rest of your CPD career.
And ease up on the 'product'. It seems to have seeped thru your cranium and affected the thing that was once your brain.
1/30/2012 08:08:00 PM
Woah, GP. Relax tuff guy. Remember all the Hair Gels voted for your ticket mate Shields, but not for you. I really doubt a Hair Gel made that comment. GP when did you start paying into SS? You must be working a lot of CTA for that to hurt you that much.
Papers reporting Rahm gave over 6 million to store front reverands for after school programs! My question is WHY? When I was growing up we NEVER had anything like that. If these same reverands are so concerned they could do the job for free why do we need to pay them with my tax dollars!
1/30/2012 07:08:00 PM
AMEN on that-our tax dollars at work-wonder what kind of wink-wink deal Swan Lake has with the Revruns...make me sick, along with the who gets a parking ticket during church on Sunday and who doesn't.
--No Cop Here
1/31/2012 02:23:00 AM
If you believe 6 million went to storefronts you need to take some online classes somewhere and read a book. Storefronts don't have pull and they certainly have inadequate facilities to run large programs. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but post the link and I have no problem saying ooops. Otherwise I suspect you're paraphrasing in error.
Yep, murders up over 50% from this time last year. Compcrap really works. It is already showing it's cracks. Its like everything else from the new york, talks big talk but fails to perform like the Knicks for example. Time for this snake oil salesman to go back home.
Of course COMPSTAT LIES!
Just like when Rahm said he put another 1,000 officers on the street when he disbanded TRU and MSF.
I heard that 24 cops were stupid enough to volunteer to be M-F-Fers.
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