A Math Problem
We haven't seen the official count yet as we're enjoying the last few days of our 13B. Supposedly, Chicago suffered a grand total of 4 fewer murders than last year.
- 2010 - 435
- 2011 - 431
After a year touting "double digit" crime reductions all over the media, the only number that matters was less than a 1% reduction. All the units being disbanded, the shuffling of administrative positions and elimination of spots, even the counting of recruits coming off probation as "officers" was used to justify all sorts of political shenanigans, and pretty much demonstrated exactly how little control the police have over idiots determined to kill one another.
Here's a conundrum though - crime statistics are usually expressed in terms of ".... per 100,000 people." Chicago lost 200,000 residents in the last census. So is it safe to assume that Chicago's homicide rate has actually been climbing? We're going to guess that the media is told to play up the "drop in the number of homicides" rather than the "homicide rate climbs."
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
145 Comments:
Fortunately we lost fewer police officers this year; maybe that's what made the difference.
rb
Good point!!
All the cities revenue generation fine and fee schemes to extract money from the working class while painting it as having to do with a respect for the laws and implementing Broken Window crime methodology is driving people out and turning anger into rage for those left behind.
The people demanding that the laws be enforced are being locked up and the criminal bankers are granted impunity...and so the rage builds. The CPD is seen as the politicians hired thugs that the middle class has to pay protection money and extortion to.
Figures don't lie, but liars do figure...
its about number of bodies scc... not percentages... we all know that. Im in support of you definatly, but you really dont have too good of an argument here.. a little weak. Less bodies are less bodies no matter which way you look at it. especially the number compared to 2 years ago of 516 or so. I would like to see the numbers on people shot. Those numbers seem to be guarded pretty tight.. I think that number if ever released(and honestly tabulated) is the real story teller on violent crime. Im sure the shootings are up more than any year since the mid 90s.. medical technology and people not going straight for the head anymore and just hitting in the legs and ass are bringing down the homicide numbers... either way, its still a sh*thole
Supposedly, Chicago suffered a grand total of 4 fewer murders than last year.
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Pure laziness.
Chicago lost 200,000 people in 10 years, from 2000 to 2010, or about 7% of its population. Annual murder totals for 2010 were 30% lower than those of 10 years before.
So over the time period for which your population comparison is valid, the murder rate clearly declined by an extraordinary amount.
The census figures you're using don't tell us anything about what happened to Chicago's population in the last year. It might be fair to assume that 1/10th of the decline happened in the last year -- 20,000, which is less than 1% of the population. So that would mean that the murder rate held steady.
The reality is that not much changed in the past year, but that Chicago is incredibly safer than it was prior to the changes instituted by Superintendant Cline, first in Harrison, and then across the city. The old mantra of HIllard and Needham that Chicago was different from New York and that the police just couldn't do much about murder was proven decisively wrong in 2003. We've reached a new plateau in a much safer city, and it's not clear what ELSE police can do. But the new strategies of 2003 made an enormous difference.
In the great Chicago tradition of embellishing numbers or flat out lying, the lower rate is accomplished by classifying murders as death investigations. Some of these eventually will be reclassified as murder sometime in spring when no one will pay much attention. So more than likely last years murder rate was higher than 2010. Gotta love the Chicago way.
Looking at the long term picure, in 2001 Chicago had 668 homicides. So over 10 years the homicide rate has declined over 35%. I don't think there was anything specific that McCarthy has done to have any major impact on the city's homicide rate, but in fairness to him he is constantly being told by Rahm to make due with less.
I think that we as an organization have done a lot over the past 10 years and I do believe that we deserve a little credit for a job well done.
Sounds like a negligible change to me, aka "margin of error."
Correlation does not equal causation unless it's proven, and it's definitely not proven. This city is run by idiots and the only ones that bear the brunt of their incompetence are the taxpayers, you guys, and (small) business owners.
Speaking of taking it in the ass, was that law passed giving Raccoon Eyes permission to turn the RedFlex cash registers into speed traps?
Shouldn't give mcdaddy credit or grief over stats for the entire year, he hasn't been here that long. Let's compare apples to apples
Weis era
01 Jun-31 Dec 2010
Homicides 258
Mcdaddy era
01jun-31 dec 2011
Homicides 276
oops they went up 18 or 9%, wonder if you look at the rest of the stats how his record would look?
32 homicides have been logged so far in December. Police recorded 25 homicides in December last year, RedEye found
36 homicides have been logged so far in November. Police recorded 32 homicides in November last year, RedEye found
October ended this week with 44 homicides, up from 35 homicides recorded in October last year, RedEye data shows.
Meanwhile, September ended last week with 38 homicides, up from 31 homicides in September last year, according to RedEye data.
http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/blog/page/4/
Twenty to thirty percent increases for those months vs last year and not a word about that on the corporate media machine that is protecting their politicians.
The city bean counters can make the numbers say anything they want. After being born and living in this town I will never believe anything that comes out of a politicians greasy mouth. I would never believe anything that comes out of a bosses mouth. This town is the most unsafe it has ever been. I feel sorry for the folks living in the shit Ghettoes. They have it worse than the rest of us. At least I can carry a gun to have a fighting chance.
I work in an area. I saw a dick refuse to re classify a murder to a lessor offense. He was ordered to make the change and then did so. This administration is playing the numbers more than in the recent past. I am certain we are over from last year.
How many "death investigations" do we have?
We must have at least 4 or 5 "death investigations" involving victims that repeatedly fell on knife, striking their backs at least 10 times.
Hay SCC: Curiosity is speaking here, but you seem to be keeping a running tally in a number of districts. Can you tell us what, according to what you reported, was the total homicides for the year as you saw it?
"Here's a conundrum though - crime statistics are usually expressed in terms of ".... per 100,000 people." Chicago lost 200,000 residents in the last census. So is it safe to assume that Chicago's homicide rate has actually been climbing?"
The numbers are twisted to make it look like whatever they want it to look like.
Figures lie and liars figure.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Sadly, one of the final finishers was a brother.
our mayor says we all have to sacrifice--- does that include getting a bullet in the back of the head when you are walking to the corner store to get a gallon of milk--- that's one hell of a sacrifice--- time to hire some more coppers like right now so they will be getting out of the academy when the killing season begins anew in the spring....
You are correct, sir.
When the Soviet Union collapsed and people there were finally free to talk about what was going on they overwhelmingly related that they always believed the opposite of whatever the state media reported. They lived in a culture of universal deceit and so do we today.
Why bother pointing out the lies? Every thinking person should be aware by now that everything reported in the media is a lie and if they’re not – then I argue they are not capable of critical thinking.
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”
~ Author George Orwell
*Joker style laughter yet again...*
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAH!
*News Boy Timmy*
"Extra extraaaa! Read all about it! Bean counters found in locked room at City Hall with their pants around their ankles and the beans shoved in their asses sidewaaayyys!"
They always knew they had a math problem SCC!
What they weren't counting on was their credibility gap being exposed as a yawning chasm whirling with F6 tornadoes of fire, shit, debris and unburied dead...
Which means?
All these changes... Shutting and combining districts, madly shuffling intentionally diminished manpower can only mean one thing...
The powers that be DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM OTHER THAT FLOGGING THE SHIT OUT OF THE POOR POLICEMAN JUST BECAUSE HE HAS A BLUE SUIT ON!
Slightly O/T...
We worked out a plausible reason for the Great War on Police In Chicago...
The powers that be (the legacy criminal-political & media cabal of Chicago) would rather die
a "peckerwood's death" than admit that The Policeman, though imperfect, is representative of the conscience and ethos of the common sense, middle class captive taxpayer.
Destroy the Policeman and the good he stands for and these dirty, yellow-pinky stalinist colectivists will be able to score a massive propaganda coup in laying Chicago bare and remaking it in THEIR image... The citizen taxpayer will only exist to pay the taxes, fees, fines to keep the corrupt, stinking open pit graveyard of a city afloat since the catered to constituents are enjoying being pandered to...
They absolutely FEAR The Police getting their "mojo" back with the expressed consent of the oppressed middle class taxpayer whose fate IS INTERTWINED with that of The Policeman.
Their fear is The Police eventually and lawfully "coming after them" fully empowered with the will, ire and rightful anger of the people.
Look at today's part six article in a series in the Sunday Fibune about "Legendary Lawmen."
Hard men like Capt. Frank Pape imprisoning or sending criminal dogs to their doom quickly and with no questions asked if they even hinted at not surrendering quietly & meekly.
Their methods were rough, hard and imperfect sometimes just like Chicago is rough, hard and imperfect.
The people demanded The Police lay a hard, ruthless and even murderous hand (in the name of the law) on the necks of criminals who wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger themselves.
The people have no appetite for this even in these killing times...
But the onus IS on The Police to play it straight...
No second place winners in Police work... Pape had that figured from the beginning.
Now the criminal is the hero.
Heh... we wonder if Sylvester "Two-Gun Pete" Washington will be included in the series...
* Ouch! X^O *
40% increase in 007. How is TC in oo7 still the commander in light of ComStat and accountability?
430 Would've been a lot better SCC!!!!
RIP Officer Lewis
011 Officer
OT: No city plows over night, not even for LSD. Accidents mounting, at least one 10 car accident on LSD at aprox. 06:15.
The "main" streets near me unplowed, unsalted, snow packed then glazed over.
Is this another Tom Tumb Byrne money savings order.
It reminds me of D-Day in WWII. The Germans could not send the reserve panzers because they were under direct control of the Geman leader. Nobody would wake the German leader to obtain their release for fear of what he do to them.
Another Daley era hack still causing the tax payers
grief.
What I wish Chuck Goudie, or any of the other so called 'Chicago television journalists' would report is why does Chicago not submit their crime statistics to the FBI like every other major metropolitan city in the U.S.?
This concerned Illinois citizen (with plenty of non-resident concealed carry permits), along with others that can't legally carry in Illinois would like to know what we're REALLY up against.
At least until we can afford to move ourselves to Arizona, or get a sweetheart deal from Gov. Quinn to stay.
017.... wins the goul pool
I don't have the exact numbers but before McMush, the homicide rate was running over 10% lower. Since he took over and implemented all his changes, the rate is actually higher that last year's.
He took ALL the credit when claiming a lower rate. Now, will he take the blame?
17 has 1st of year
McJersey Shore should be crediting the doctors at the hospitals that all of these dogs get sent to be put back together again,for the reduction in homicide. Modern medicine has saved more lives and cut down on these homicides more than his silly stradegies.The real stats that should be addressed is ,how many agg. batts. with firearms were there?
Anonymous said...
Since Un indicted 2nd District rat Cynthia White is now going to be an Inspector is she required to move back into the city from Dolton/South Holland??
1/01/2012 08:11:00 PM
First, i do not like the lady anymore than any other working copper.
But I want to set the record staright on this, so you or anyone else who thinks she lives outside of the city can get your facts straight.
CW lives in the city, next to a big park, in Roseland, around 120th and the ivy League streets. Anyone who has worked in 5 knows where she lives and that it is true.
I still hate her, and thete is plenty to hate her about, but living outside of the city is not one of those things.
First, happy New Year, SCC!
Second, good catch! Keep up the good work and honest reporting. Lord knows we are going to need a place to voice the truth this year. It promises to be a very rough year for all non clouted blue shirts and white shirts.
When you take into consideration the loss of population in Chicago we have actually had an increase in homicides in the city.
Frank Main already did the year end crime story, on December 27th...wtf? Said we had over 2% murder decrease, and just 4 days later it is really less than 1%!
Check out this gem from Chicago Breaking News...
"Perez couldn't immediately confirm that the man was the city's first slaying. Technically, the year's first homicide belongs to police, who fatally shot Michael Smith, 52, after authorities said he pointed a handgun at officers in Marquette Park just 10 minutes into the new year."
The RedEye has it pegged at 435 for 2011. A "dead" heat with 2010.
There must be tens of thousands who have fled the city for greener pastures since the beginning of 2010.
017 has first homicide of the year? Really? Wow
Also, lets not forget we have exported some of our problems to the burbs thanks to section 8 housing
Chicago has not lost Residents the Population has more than Doubled in the Illegal Alien Neighborhoods.Look at the schools and Gang Problem ,Back of the yards.
If Chicago (population: 2,695,598*) did indeed record 431 total criminal homicides during 2011, the homicide rate would be 16.0 per 100,000 population.
Based on preliminary counts from both New York City and Los Angeles, their 2011 homicide rates are less than half that of Chicago.
However, note that in specific Chicago districts/New York City precincts/Los Angeles divisions of all of the nations three largest cities, the homicide rate may approach 100.0 per 100,000 population (i.e.),CPD districts 007 and 011; certain NYPD precincts in Brooklyn and the Bronx and LAPD divisions in South Central Los Angeles).
* = SOURCE: U.S. Census Bureau 2010 data.
For hugely disparate homicide rates, a river and an international border can make a shocking difference. Compare the homicide rates of El Paso, TX with adjoining Ciudad Juarez, Mexico or Detroit, MI with adjoining Windsor, Ontario, Canada.
innies, outies, and deaths intentionally not reported as murders- are these "fudge factors" still in use post J-Fled?
Shit its almost too bad that technology has come so far to save these shitbirds. Just imagine what our homicide rate would be with even 1980s medical technology! Lucky ass shitbirds....we should let them treat themselves after they get shot. Hey.....medic! Gangbanger
Does this include the people that died from complications days,weeks or months after??
OT What would happen say each cop wrote 2 DWI's a day. Between court and filling out paperwork you would be off the cold streets. I don't know if you make extra from going to court. ( some suburban Cops make BIG money in OT.)
I am sure you could do this pretty easy and know who to arrest.
Not a Cop
I love reading this site and getting a lot of correct facts
Yet the greater Chicago land area saw an increase in crime including murder. I wonder what was the common factor?
crime statistics are usually expressed in terms of ".... per 100,000 people
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good point
We've reached a new plateau in a much safer city, and it's not clear what ELSE police can do. But the new strategies of 2003 made an enormous difference.
1/02/2012 12:35:00 AM
Liars figure and figures lie....
When you cherry pick your statistics, you can make them say anything you want. Basic statistics at any credible University.
The Nation as a whole has seen a huge decline in violent crime in the last ten years. Chicago has the absolute lowest drop in crime of all major metropolitan areas. So Chicago trends opposite the Nation on crime.
Credit whomever or whatever you want. Remember we closed all the worst projects and lost 200,000 people in that time frame.
When someone is throwing statistics at you all the time, be cognisant of the fact that they are providing their interpretation of those statistics. You can also be sure that they outright lying to you.
crimes down in chi town
thank the bulldozer operators that tore down projects and section 8 that relocated victims , criminals to suburbs
that was grand plan of politicians to rid chi town of the 3rd generation criminals in cabrini and taylor homes
The patrolman makes the difference out there,the bosses and higher ups just take the credit for something they didnt do.
017 wins the ghoul pool?!?!
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/9770986-418/northwest-side-killing-is-first-murder-of-2012.html
OT:
Can you imagine what would happen in Illinois when we get CC?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-wisconsin-swamped-by-concealedcarry-applications-20120102,0,4559147.story
For every person who is shot and for every person who is killed how many bullets are flying around in the neighborhoods that don't hit anything? People in this town know just how bad the crime situation is and snicker at these bogus statistics coming out of the bunker. The Racoon on the 5th floor could care less about the safety of anyone except his family. So keep that in mind good citizens and do whatever it takes to protect you and yours. Fuck the self serving politicians and their ilk.
Anonymous said...
I work in an area. I saw a dick refuse to re classify a murder to a lessor offense. He was ordered to make the change and then did so. This administration is playing the numbers more than in the recent past. I am certain we are over from last year.
1/02/2012 01:20:00 AM
If what you say is true then the first line of his supp should have been "I am reclassifying this Homicide case under direct orders of................
So only 4 fewer people were killed in 2011 then in 2010. And they say crime is down. I do like your way of looking at it in crime stats per 100,000 people as most places do. But if you look how many citizens were killed it is the same. Didn't the CPD lose 5 guys to gun fire in 2010 compared to 1 in 2011? So if you discount the CPD officers from the count, then the number has not gone down at all. The same number of citizens are getting killed.
Anonymous said...
The city bean counters can make the numbers say anything they want. After being born and living in this town I will never believe anything that comes out of a politicians greasy mouth. I would never believe anything that comes out of a bosses mouth. This town is the most unsafe it has ever been. I feel sorry for the folks living in the shit Ghettoes. They have it worse than the rest of us. At least I can carry a gun to have a fighting chance.
1/02/2012 12:58:00 AM
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I was agreeing with you during this whole post until the last 3 sentences. the people in the Ghetto don't have it worst then others. Most of them choose to live there & most of them also have guns too. If you haven't been paying attention, that is where almost all of the shooting is taking place with these killings.
I feel sorry for the people in the nice areas because most of them DO NOT have guns & they are shorted police manpower to help fill in the ghetto areas where most of the crime is.
There hasn't been one program that has truely helped reduce homicides. Task Force/ Caps / TRU / MSF / Comstat etc... Etc... We are at homicide rates of the 60's. Pre high rise. Post high rise; Henry Horner/ Rockwell / Abla etc etc. We peaked during thier hay day, hitting close to 1000. The wrecking ball brought us back down. How the fuck does a policing system eliminate a mentality and desire to kill? It doesn't!!! The only thing the police can do is try to eliminate an opportunity, but that is temporary. I predict we have it our homicide bottom. 2012 433 homicides + or - ten
CPD's administrative figurehead Garry McCarthy loves the phrase "drill down" (a nonsense, corporate-speak platitude, but I digress) during his CompStat bully sessions. What is meant by that is not accepting raw numbers from the Commander on the hot seat, but looking deeper into what those numbers mean. Well, it's time for McCarthy to take a turn in that hot seat.
The following sentence is from a Tribune story about the 2010 census and Chicago's neighborhoods, and I agree with the author, it is "stunning." Englewood, mind you, showed a dramatic increase in homicide numbers this year:
"Particularly stunning was the flight from Englewood, an impoverished neighborhood on the South Side that lost more than 9,500 people — nearly a quarter of its residents — during the decade, according to the census. Nearly 10,000 more left neighboring West Englewood."
The point of the story is that Chicago's dramatic population loss would have been much greater had it not been offset by in-migration to the city's central neighborhoods. In plain English; far fewer poor folk and a lot more yuppies.
Any talk of homicide totals must be placed in the context of, not only a diminished population total, but a radically shifted population demographic. The question is, will any media outlet hold McCarthy to account, as he is so fond of doing with his Commanders. It's time for him to "drill down" and explain why the strategies he has implemented in the past year, upon closer inspection, have been an abject failure.
OT I am no longer clicking on Shaved's website. He has gone over the line and does not represent the Chicago Police Officer's mindset that I have personally witnessed for the last 25 years. His posts on that the Mexican guy in Waukegan and those teenagers who died in the car accident on 57 were bad enough but the final nail in the coffin was his mocking article on that 18 year old girl savagely attacked by the Congress Theater.
Here is my mindset which is widely reflected in my own large circle of Chicago Police Officers that I consider to be my brothers and sisters: Criminals (both black and white) are selfish animals that need to be put down as Sean Connery said in the Untouchables "They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way".
The law allows a measured response to violent offenders which admittedly has been tampered down since I joined the force in 1986.
The vast majority of the population, workers, the elderly, children etc are the people we as sworn Chicago Police Officers do everything we can do to protect on a daily basis.
I am proud of what I and other Chicago Police Officers have done to protect the good people of Chicago from harm and will continue to do so despite poor management, bad bosses, and the terrible jury pool of Cook County.
I refute the message that I have seen on Shaved's website and I officially requests that my other Blue Brothers and Sisters join me in shunning it.
I thought we had 436 this year.
"Is this another Tom Tumb Byrne money savings order."
Sucks that basic city services are absent; my wife got less than one mile from home this morning when she gave up and came back; the WIND blew her car sideways at an intersection. There was NO traction. Very dangerous.
But we can all at least bask in the glow of the fact than our illustrious ex-mayor is richer than hell.
What a big hype that crime is down and it's only 1%!? Sigh! Ridiculous
its about number of bodies scc... not percentages... we all know that. Im in support of you definatly, but you really dont have too good of an argument here.. a little weak. Less bodies are less bodies no matter which way you look at it. especially the number compared to 2 years ago of 516 or so. I would like to see the numbers on people shot. Those numbers seem to be guarded pretty tight.. I think that number if ever released(and honestly tabulated) is the real story teller on violent crime. Im sure the shootings are up more than any year since the mid 90s.. medical technology and people not going straight for the head anymore and just hitting in the legs and ass are bringing down the homicide numbers... either way, its still a sh*thole
1/02/2012 12:31:00 AM
I would say percentages DO matter. If you have four hundred homicides in a town with three million people, it's a bit different than if you have four hundred homicides in a town with one million people.
If the number of homicides stays the same, but the population keeps dropping, then something's wrong. There is no improvement'. Quite the opposite.
The only reason why the homicide rate is down, our doctors at trauma centers save many who would have been doa in the 70's and 80's..
And of course the Tribune would end the article about 2012's first homicide with this choice of words:
"Police recovered three shell casings at the scene of the shooting, as evidence technicians processed the SUV for evidence, police said.
No arrests had been made in the shooting.
Perez couldn't immediately confirm that the man was the city's first slaying. Technically, the year's first homicide belongs to police, who fatally shot Michael Smith, 52, after authorities said he pointed a handgun at officers in Marquette Park just 10 minutes into the new year."
"OT: No city plows over night, not even for LSD. Accidents mounting, at least one 10 car accident on LSD at aprox. 06:15.
The "main" streets near me unplowed, unsalted, snow packed then glazed over."
WTF???
Snow packed and unplowed with what like a 1/4 inch of show? Idiot!!!
10 car accident you say. We have been driving in ice and snow for how long in Chicago??? My guess would be that all involved were driving to fast for conditions.
You need to get out of the City more often boy...
Go a little further north where they have a lot more snow and ice and 2/3 of the roads never get plowed let alone salted.
I guess it is just easier to blame it on the City and not the way these fools drive.
40% increase in 007. How is TC in oo7 still the commander in light of ComStat and accountability?
Rahm and McGoffy know why TD is still in 007. They know he is untouchable and does not even show up at Comstat.
He has some good dirt on Rahm and Daley and a few other.
NOW GET OVER IT!!!
What saved the Homicide numbers is the week after the big snow fall. None of the Black Hoodies and saggy pants wanted to run from the Police in the Snow.
Once an aggravated battery, always an aggravated battery. Never ever.change the classification
and thats 490 less police officers through retirements this year 2011 and about 575 last year 2010.........
The reality is that not much changed in the past year, but that Chicago is incredibly safer than it was prior to the changes instituted by Superintendant Cline, first in Harrison, and then across the city. The old mantra of HIllard and Needham that Chicago was different from New York and that the police just couldn't do much about murder was proven decisively wrong in 2003. We've reached a new plateau in a much safer city, and it's not clear what ELSE police can do. But the new strategies of 2003 made an enormous difference.
The truth is Chicago is not safer. More people are being robbed and beaten. More people are being shot. The reason the homicide numbers are down is because medical treatment has gotten better then it was in past years. More people are being shot today then in the past, but the Doctors are keeping people alive, when in the past the person would have died. So, I don't agree with the above post. This city is no way close to being a safe city. The politicians and the corrupt reverends let crime get out of control in this city. Gang problems are out of control.
Are these inside or outside murders? I thought that was taken into account too
007 edged out the 2010 leader 011 for total criminal homicides.
17th district with the first 0110 of the year? Who would have guessed it. Congrats! You go North side.
one of the major reasons crime was down in the last 10 yrs was the destruction of cabrini and robert taylor homes as well as other smaller jets.Along with the 200,000 mostly blacks that went south to live.Just look at the crime explosion that has inflicted the south suburbs.
And of cource the killing of crime that has been going on for years.Wonder why the feds do not accept stats from shitcago.
Anonymous said...
Looking at the long term picure, in 2001 Chicago had 668 homicides. So over 10 years the homicide rate has declined over 35%. I don't think there was anything specific that McCarthy has done to have any major impact on the city's homicide rate, but in fairness to him he is constantly being told by Rahm to make due with less.
I think that we as an organization have done a lot over the past 10 years and I do believe that we deserve a little credit for a job well done.
1/02/2012 12:41:00 AM
That's what the rank and file will get...
little credit.
The master-minds want and take all the credit.
Does anyone know how many homicides were reclassified as "involuntary manslaughter" or other such classifications to keep the 0110's down?
. . . .just enough to keep the 0110's less than last years maybe?
remember before they arrest the bankers they also have to arrest the middle class worker that faked his salary to get that jumbo loan. people cry about the banker, but the person getting the loan it just as guilty.
Safer city?
It's one thing when the thugs are attacking their own, afterall that is the life they choose.
It's another thing when they go downtown for the easy pickings on the Michigan Mile, on the CTA, and quiet suburbs like Indian Head Park. Then they post videos of themselves laughing on the internet after they commit their crimes against society.
Ask those victims if they think it is safer now.
Ok starting with the diaspora of the project people we see a steady decline in murders, this is a result of the fact the poor people do more crime ( it really has nothing to do with race).
Public housing shipped a great many of the former residents, maybe 200,000 to the suburbs, what has happen to the crime rate in those suburbs?
Whats 5 + 4 1/2 = ??????
1/02/2012 06:45:00 AM
My street was plowed on the south side when I woke up this morning. HAHAHAHA enjoy those high property taxes up north asshat!
SCC:
From the Chicago Sun Times
Updated: January 2, 2012 2:29PM
"A 19-year-old man shot in the head early Monday in the Albany Park neighborhood is Chicago’s first homicide of the year that didn’t involve the use of deadly force by police."
What in the fuck is that supposed to mean you JACK-ASSES?????
RE:
http://www.suntimes.com/news
/metro/9770986-418/northwest
-side-killing-is-first-
murder-of-2012.html
Happy New Year
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www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-parolee-arrested-for-firing-gun-at-midnight-20120102,0,141981.story
chicagotribune.com
Parolee celebrating arrival of 2012 arrested for firing gun
By Rosemary Sobol
Tribune reporter
1:55 PM CST, January 2, 2012
A parolee who was sporting 2012 glasses with flashing blue lights was arrested after police saw him fire a pistol into the air minutes into the New Year Sunday on the West Side, police said.
Elbert Brown Jr., 38, of the 4500 block of South Lavergne Avenue, was arrested at 12:12 a.m. Sunday and charged with being an armed habitual criminal, police said. Brown was also served with a warrant for violating his parole.
Police were called to an alley in the 600 block of North Kedzie Avenue in the East Garfield Park neighborhood and saw Brown, who was wearing eye glasses formed from the numbers 2012, use his right hand to pull a pistol from his left waistband, according to a police report.
When Brown pointed the pistol upwards towards the sky and discharged three rounds, officers approached him with their guns drawn, told Brown they were police officers, and ordered him to drop the weapon, the report said.
He complied and was taken into custody without further incident. A .40 caliber semi-automatic pistol with a 4-inch barrel -- and the glasses -- were recovered by police.
Court records show Brown was paroled in April, 2011, for an involuntary manslaughter case for which he was sentenced to ten years in prison. He also has felony convictions for weapons and drug charges and an attempted armed robbery, court records show.
rsobol@tribune.com
Crime is Down!
repeat;
Crime is Down!
I have hit the wall and along with the bulk of my watch won't be here in May,Rahm is in for one hell of a surprise. If you think that we'lll be rewarded for our hard work at these stupid summits, you are a complete idiot. If you are in pain,have the surgery you've been putting off. If you drink too much get into the program. There is NO UPSIDE to this, and we'll either be vilified or get no credit. Now is the time to send a message,we are 4,000 police short and get nothing but grief. It's time to man up.
Off Topic;
Jane Byrne was the best friend to the police ever.
Off Topic 2;
A great scam artist once thought about selling useless shares of stock to football fans that were useless at time of sale, and in the future.
Could you believe that one? Who would be so stupid? What's that, it happened in Green Bay? What a bunch of goofs. Stop the inbreeding!
Hey, they probably think C.P.D. promotions are legit. Let's sell them some useless shares of C.P.D. stock. We will make the certificates with lots of pretty colors. Each certificate will have pictures of the police brass with their pretty uniforms and official looking hats.
FYI the sexual assualts that the news media decided to report on this weekend. Most of the offenders were on parole or probation for other crimes you wonder why the Democratic politicians want to close the correctional centers. Are they being pushed by the gang members which is one their main supporters to cut back on these facilities?
tribune reporter william lee left this little comment at the end of his story on the year's first homicide which occurred in albany park...
"Perez couldn't immediately confirm that the man was the city's first slaying. Technically, the year's first homicide belongs to police, who fatally shot Michael Smith, 52, after authorities said he pointed a handgun at officers in Marquette Park just 10 minutes into the new year."
this makes me sick. i'd say technically that this is the year's first fucked up comment by a reporter who hates the police. what a piece of shit.
here's the link to the whole story
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cops-man-shot-in-head-critically-injured-in-albany-park-neighborhood-20120102,0,916451.story
Just read a memo from Patrol requesting 6 Lieutenants from northside to go to 4,6,7,8 to cover for the X.O's being made. Pretty soon they will start moving Sgts and P.O's to the ghetto.
Superintendent McCarthy is just playing the shuffle game with personnel. The reality is is that he nor the people he brought with him have true street experience. Any officer that wears a long sleeve shirt in the summer is first and for most a true give away! Isn't it a coincidence that all three of them wear our uniform? What is it with wimpy ass wanna be police always fighting where our uniform! What happened to it being earned not given! Another Weissell crew!
All jokes aside, looking at his record of street level experience, the moves he is making is simply bureaucratic. Also, he has no class as a Superintendent. He makes remarks at all of the Comp stat meetings regarding any SCC rumor or any other rumor that spreads about him. Also, how can he sign off on firing people for offenses he was tried and convicted on? He is a hot head with a problem with the bottle and everyone knows that! Look at the OCD Christmas party. Enough said!
He also has no balls. Why keep rewarding incompetence? Why does Eddie Welch, Tony Carothers and now Terry Williams who is going to the D Unit, why keep rewarding them? Why keep people around like Beatrice Cuello with all of her baggage? Why keep her boy in all sense of the word, Eugene Williams around. He is completely maxed out isn't he? But he continues to der her bidding. The Dinosaur time is over! I keep forgetting, the ministers want him and Ron Holt around. Ron Holt, another complete lunatic and embarrassment for this department. He is the same Exempt that was on the list of excessive Brutality beefs, he has a known problem with the bottle, he talks to ghosts, he has no clue at what his unit or job is, he is the same person that was on the radio saying his budget was not for public discussion! WTF?
You also have the same old good old boy mentality being the foundation of this department. Commander O'Grady has already told everyone he is about to be a Street Deputy, but he has never been a District Commander, nor worked in the capacity he will be overseeing. He also told his people not to worry because Kevin Navarro who has also never been a District Commander, will be taking over Narcotics. Kevin Ryan says he will be a Street Deputy also and he is only doing his time, nothing more until he is gone, as well as Judy Martin, Kennedy and Lucy Moy, Aunt Bea's girl. Debra Kirby and Steve Georgas want Tena Skahil gone as does the rest of the regime. Looks like this will be happening.
Wysinger by the way is a figure head. The Superintendent's two cronies run right over him.
I look forward to working my beat everyday and the schedule makes it even more worthwhile, but it is getting harder and harder doing it as we are getting fucked each step of the way!
"The "main" streets near me unplowed, unsalted, snow packed then glazed over.
"Is this another Tom Tumb Byrne money savings order."
--1/02/2012 06:45:00 AM
It's OK. He faced Channel 7's cameras today wearing a Chicago Police Memorial Fund hat.
"All the cities revenue generation fine and fee schemes to extract money from the working class while painting it as having to do with a respect for the laws and implementing Broken Window crime methodology is driving people out and turning anger into rage for those left behind."
--1/02/2012 12:20:00 AM
Yeah, those white vans -- "CITY DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE" -- with all the iron car boots rattling around in the back.
Couldn't resist when I passed the last one. "I SEE YOU! I SEE YOU! I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!"
They have this furtive look anyway...
Maybe there was less homocides because all of the thugs family members were in Wisconsin waiting to get a gun permit!
Rahm and McPuppet are nothing but scammers. They saw that homicides were on the rise the final week. So, on Thursday (29th) they leaked to the media that as of Tuesday(27th) "Homicides are way down this year! As of Tuesday there are 419" Fuzzy math to me! Lying sounds much better than telling the truth after the actual true numbers are in. Just gearing up for Pres. run and all of us are screwed. More taxes, less service. He's going to say look I balanced the budget, blah, blah, blah and we all will suffer.
Bank robberies are down also, but here the FBI credits new high-end electronic security devices.
Personally I like the trap door into the alligator pit myself.
ONLY 4 less homicides.... with all the shit weather, blizzards, cold spring, record rain fall of 2011...we should of been down 100.... iam predicting we will be over 500 for 2012
Concerned Citizen said...
What I wish Chuck Goudie, or any of the other so called 'Chicago television journalists' would report is why does Chicago not submit their crime statistics to the FBI like every other major metropolitan city in the U.S.?
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They do submit them but the FBI will not use them since many murders were re-classified as death investigations under Daley to kill crime with a compuer instaed of an arrest.
LSD was closed this morning due to ice and accidents. Rahm sure is saving$$$$$
I work in an area. I saw a dick refuse to re classify a murder to a lessor offense. He was ordered to make the change and then did so. This administration is playing the numbers more than in the recent past. I am certain we are over from last year.
1/02/2012 01:20:00 AM
You are full of shit
MAKE REPORTS!
MAKE REPORTS!
IF THEY SAY A FLEA FARTED OR PERSON PEED: PULL A NUMBER AND MAKE THE REPORT!
THEY TELL YOU EVERYTHING IS BEING RECORDED LIKE IT IR NOT?
CRIME DICTATES FUNDING! The Altercteatures are not helping just distributing taxes to who the gang of 51 want to get it!
Crime will reopen Stations and add to them. It will hire and RETAIN police and fire. Purchase new equipment, Andy and Barney can have this stuff but NOT the third largest City in America (with or without illegal aliens in sanctuary)
The parasites will be unable to resist the temptation if all that $$$. A cubs scout ( the ones with the flat shoes and wear two gloves) could prosecute them.
With hundreds of police stations and fire houses fully manned and equipped we might have a fighting chance.
The way it is going we will be OCCUPIED reduced to rubble and refugees in our own Country!
Six Altercteatures, two for each point of the compass and the two in the East will work the hardest.
Condemn the skyway as a hazard along with those dangerous parking tripping hazards and the Toll Barricades tax the workers and jail the documented parasites and undocumented parasites.
Old Retired Guy Here;
I read the post of "The Box Chevy Phantom". It was posted on this site.
I feel his comments are very true.
Problem is; will anyone, outside, the police venue, ever read, or fully understand them.
I think NOT.
PS: Have A Nice Day ?
Im sure the shootings are up more than any year since the mid 90s.. medical technology and people not going straight for the head anymore and just hitting in the legs and ass are bringing down the homicide numbers...
I have to wonder how many more shooting victims would have died in 2011 if we had 1990 medical technology instead of the current stuff. That may be making more of a difference than we might imagine, but of course it will never be reflected in the stats.
i could let you check my figures, but then i'd have to kill you.
Chalkie
total is 433 DOA
on life support 327
quadriplegic 60
paraplegic another 327
wide assortment from gun shot wounds 4000 or so.
The people demanding that the laws be enforced are being locked up and the criminal bankers are granted impunity...and so the rage builds. The CPD is seen as the politicians hired thugs that the middle class has to pay protection money and extortion to.
1/02/2012 12:20:00 AM
Yeah, that's it. It's the bankers responsible for crime.
Go occupy somewhere else you subversive fuck.
Technically, the year's first homicide belongs to police, who fatally shot Michael Smith, 52, after authorities said he pointed a handgun at officers in Marquette Park just 10 minutes into the new year."
No need to be mad at the reporter, he is correct, the police shooting was a justifiable homicide.
"I look forward to working my beat everyday and the schedule makes it even more worthwhile, but it is getting harder and harder doing it as we are getting fucked each step of the way!"
Hey whiner bitch, boo hoo, everything and everyone is against
me. How are you getting fucked each step of the way? Seriously, explain.
Just read a memo from Patrol requesting 6 Lieutenants from northside to go to 4,6,7,8 to cover for the X.O's being made. Pretty soon they will start moving Sgts and P.O's to the ghetto.
1/02/2012 04:20:00 PM
The 004th District spot is 3rd watch, grab it before they send you to midnights. I must say, 004 is a diamond in the rough, not a bad place. A little bit of everything, black, white and hispanic.
#1:
Once a case is classified a homicide, its almost impossible, to reclassify as a 5084.
If the Medical Examinaer rules a death a homicide, then its ore than likely to stay a 0110.
I've handled death investigations that by the nature of the circumstances, I knew were a 0110, but without a Medical Examiner being able to rule it one, well, your shit out of luck unless someone stands up and confesses, and we know that dont happen.
The D unit is not killing homicides...
Homicide = death at the hands of a human being.
After all these years you guys still worry about what reporters and anchorpersons think of us? Who gives a shit. It's been us against them for years. It's not going to change.
Again. Who cares. The people that care about us will continue to do so regardless of how we are portrayed in the media and the scumbags will continue to hate us.
Don't you have a certain sense of pride that the ghetto scumbags hate you? I love it.
Fuck them. I hate them too.
this may be off topic.. but who won the ghoul pool?
ALL DEMOCRATS ARE COMMUNISTS SAYS:
A few grains of sand more or less on a beachdiesn't mean it's no longer a beach. Way to go Chicago Democrat Politicians. Thanks for wasting my Tax Dollars again in 2011, only to have a Combat Zone to live in for another year. Iraq is safer than here, thanks to you Thieving Socialist, Soft on Crime Quisslings.
Thanks again for tryin , CPD.
To the delusional liar that saw the detective reclassify a murder:
You are so full of shit.
I can't believe that you are the police let alone work in an area.
Please explain a scenario where a homicide would be reclassified to another offense.
I would love to see your score on the last promotional test you took.
There's a reason why a death is recorded on a hospitalization case report.
don't forget there were dozens of "death investigations" that weren't counted as homicides, but were classified as something else...it's a numbers/classification game only for the left media to report on behalf of the left politicians. The losers are the victims, future victims and taxpayers.
I was involved in homicide investigations before I retired several years ago and I have a question. Does the clerks at HQ still manipulate the stats to make the bosses still look good. Matt Rodriguez was good at this as well as others but not to good because everyone knew what they were doing.
tribune reporter william lee left this little comment at the end of his story on the year's first homicide which occurred in albany park...
"Perez couldn't immediately confirm that the man was the city's first slaying. Technically, the year's first homicide belongs to police, who fatally shot Michael Smith, 52, after authorities said he pointed a handgun at officers in Marquette Park just 10 minutes into the new year."
this makes me sick. i'd say technically that this is the year's first fucked up comment by a reporter who hates the police. what a piece of shit.
here's the link to the whole story
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cops-man-shot-in-head-critically-injured-in-albany-park-neighborhood-20120102,0,916451.story
1/02/2012 04:06:00 PM
Technically, he's right. You might not like it, but a death, not natural, deliberately caused by another - whether it's justified or not - is a homicide.
There is a difference between murder and homicide, you know.
2011 PRELIMINARY FIGURES - HOMICIDES
[Homicide RATE per 100,000 population in BLUE]
[Three most populous cities in the nation]
New York City...502.....6.1
8,175,133
Los Angeles......292.....7.7
3,792,621
CHICAGO.........431...16.0
2,695,598
Population Source: U.S. Census Bureau
Hey Box Chevy Phantom, you stated the facts our our besieged city perfectly.
When will the Times or Trib report all the violent crimes that are committed by illegals? When will they report all the burglaries and car accidents (no lic or insurance) committed by illegal aliens? Just look at the daily stats of the number of hispanics that are arrested, those who can't speak English w/out an interpreter. The general public has no clue.
"You also have the same old good old boy mentality being the foundation of this department. Commander O'Grady has already told everyone he is about to be a Street Deputy...I look forward to working my beat everyday and the schedule makes it even more worthwhile"
For just a "beat guy" you sure are a little bitch with rumors from Patrol to narcotics. Maybe your really a suck ass at HQ that's not getting his/her way?
CW lives in the city, next to a big park, in Roseland, around 120th and the ivy League streets. Anyone who has worked in 5 knows where she lives and that it is true.
Well, that explains it! If I lived in Roseland, I'd be a miserable SOB too.
has anyone pointed out, SCC, that the 200,000 loss is over a 20 year period? Not in one year? So, you're comparing apples and oranges...sorry
Anonymous said...
Crime is Down!
repeat;
Crime is Down!
1/02/2012 03:35:00 PM
But only if you are watching from a high rise.
Anonymous said...
OT I am no longer clicking on Shaved's website. He has gone over the line and does not represent the Chicago Police Officer's mindset that I have personally witnessed for the last 25 years. His posts on that the Mexican guy in Waukegan and those teenagers who died in the car accident on 57 were bad enough but the final nail in the coffin was his mocking article on that 18 year old girl savagely attacked by the Congress Theater.
Here is my mindset which is widely reflected in my own large circle of Chicago Police Officers that I consider to be my brothers and sisters: Criminals (both black and white) are selfish animals that need to be put down as Sean Connery said in the Untouchables "They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way".
The law allows a measured response to violent offenders which admittedly has been tampered down since I joined the force in 1986.
The vast majority of the population, workers, the elderly, children etc are the people we as sworn Chicago Police Officers do everything we can do to protect on a daily basis.
I am proud of what I and other Chicago Police Officers have done to protect the good people of Chicago from harm and will continue to do so despite poor management, bad bosses, and the terrible jury pool of Cook County.
I refute the message that I have seen on Shaved's website and I officially requests that my other Blue Brothers and Sisters join me in shunning it.
I do not like Shave either. He does not represent most of the CPD.
I do not know if the Credit Union gave him money to advertise their new location. I have been meaning to call to find out. If they are giving him money, I will take my money out of that institution.
"I think that we as an organization have done a lot over the past 10 years and I do believe that we deserve a little credit for a job well done."
Careful. If we take credit for the decline we'll have to take blame for the inevitable increase.
"007 edged out the 2010 leader 011 for total criminal homicides."
You heard him, west-siders! Try harder in 2012!
We can beat 007!
In the UCR Crime Index, criminal homicide (murder and non-negligent manslaughter) does NOT include justifiable homicides by citizens including law enforcement.
The first recorded criminal homicide of 2012 occurred in the CPD 17th District.
"Technically", the Tribune and Sun-Times can shove their "8th District (justifiable) homicide" by the police up their asses with their sarcastic semantics bullshit. UCR guidelines apply.
"I do not like Shave either. He does not represent most of the CPD."
Completely agreed! I can't believe the racist garbage that moron posts, and no one has ever mistaken me for a Liberal. Shaved is obviously a south sider!
A few weeks back Stienberg blasted the "racist police blogs", and while SCC took offense, I really believe the Ultra Lib media hack was referring to Shaved.
Shaved might edit less than SCC, but I'm glad SCC has taken some sort of stand against the language that paints us all under the same brush.
All the more ridiculous when you consider that Shaved's identity is pretty well known. I guess a guy who decorated the Unit Christmas tree with pics of his Shaved Long cock doesn't think he has anything to hide in the first place...
Shaved does NOT speak for me!
If 9:24 PM ("2011 HOMICIDE RATES") is accurate, Chicago has nothing to brag about in homicide reduction. Chicago's homicide RATE (16.0)) is over twice to almost three times worse than that of New York City (6.1) and Los Angeles (7.7).
Assuming that the reporting agency is not "cooking the books", the only valid method of comparison is incidents per 100,000 population, not raw numbers.
Local media thrives on Chicago's Kool-Aid. Hardball questions are taboo.
I will do nothing intentionally to make McCarthy or Emanuel look good but my brothers and sisters out there need my backup and they will always get that. Same with the citizen who is in true need of the police.
As for the bullshit "my baby won't go to school, what you gwine to do about it?"
Well, we know how to handle those jobs.
At 40 mph on the way to coffee. Don't even stop.
Anonymous said...
has anyone pointed out, SCC, that the 200,000 loss is over a 20 year period? Not in one year? So, you're comparing apples and oranges...sorry
1/02/2012 10:33:00 PM
Hey dipshit, the census is taken every 10 years! 200,418 in the last 10 years.
That's an average of just over 10K per year for dumbasses such as yourself to comprehend.
5+4.5=fudged numbers
Chicago has WAY, WAY, WAY too many Murders compared to other major cities, but it does look in pretty good shape compared to EL SALVADOR!
The Demmocommunist Chicago Politicians are to blame, not the Cops. They've ALWAYS been soft on crime, as they are Criminals themselves, for the most part
I will do nothing intentionally to make McCarthy or Emanuel look good but my brothers and sisters out there need my backup and they will always get that. Same with the citizen who is in true need of the police.
im sure youve been saying that for the past three supt.. Lets call it what it is.. your a lazy dog. stop blaming it on the boss. Its a nice try at an excuse as why you dont do anything but trust me we all know the truth. There are a handful of guys like you at every single roll call. We have known you for years. For years you havent done a damn thing. sos scandal came around and you said you werent doing a thing. weis came around and you said im not doing anything hes a fed, rahm and mccarthy came in and once again you said, thats the reason im not doing anything... yeah right, you havent been doing anything for the past 15 years. Youve never been in trouble a day in your life and havent worked a hard day. you love to tell your police stories to your non police friends and family but when you have to be the police at work you are terrified. dont try and make it all right by adding on to the end of your post about how your fellow officers need you for back up yada yada yada. Im sure your not going balls out to get to that back up because your too afraid to be on the paper.. then you might have to show up for court or in some cases might end up on a civil case. please, stop with your excuses...we all know the real reason why you dont do work...woof!
Chicago's got the same population as Toronto, but ten times the murders.
There's something in the water over there. Not going to say what it is, but something is very different.
Ok starting with the diaspora of the project people we see a steady decline in murders, this is a result of the fact the poor people do more crime ( it really has nothing to do with race).
Public housing shipped a great many of the former residents, maybe 200,000 to the suburbs, what has happen to the crime rate in those suburbs?
1/02/2012 02:33:00 PM
Very simple...it went up, providing the 'burbs UCR's are correctly reported.
has anyone pointed out, SCC, that the 200,000 loss is over a 20 year period? Not in one year? So, you're comparing apples and oranges...sorry
1/02/2012 10:33:00 PM
Hey dipshit, the census is taken every 10 years! 200,418 in the last 10 years.
That's an average of just over 10K per year for dumbasses such as yourself to comprehend.
1/03/2012 07:23:00 AM
Ok you call the other poster a dipshit and a dumbass but you can't do simple math. By your words the census is every 10 years and according to you 200,000 left in those 10 years then that = 20k per year have left. Catholic school math says 200,000 divided by 10 = 20,000 not 10,000 like you state above. But good attempt to put the other poster down with your public school math.
"total is 433 DOA
on life support 327
quadriplegic 60
paraplegic another 327
wide assortment from gun shot wounds 4000 or so."
--1/02/2012 07:07:00 PM
You know, anyone who has ever stood on Madison looking east across Austin and watched the surviving wounded -- two and three at a time -- wheel themselves across the street from that shooting-war zone in there couldn't doubt you.
Word.
"...quiet suburbs like Indian Head Park. Then they post videos of themselves laughing on the internet after they commit their crimes against society."
--1/02/2012 02:23:00 PM
The Indian Head Park home invader who stabbed the little 14-year-old girl to death over some alleged coin collection took her cell phone along, and used it to send jokes and insults to the dead child's mother.
I dunno what to say except "malfunctioning electric chair -- and deliberately kept that way."
I know. "Neanderthal." Just an old throwback, that's me.
Me and Elmer Keith, down in the rec room with a fine bourbon an' a bottle a' Hoppe's 9. So it leads -- so you clean it afterwards.
There.
The mayor has a new deal. Brewing in which the deal for the parking meters will change. The city gets the meter business back after ten more years but allows meters to be installed on all city streets.!!!!!!!!
Once again tax payers take it in the neck, you better have a garage or you will being paying to park on the street all of them
The mayor has a new deal. Brewing in which the deal for the parking meters will change. The city gets the meter business back after ten more years but allows meters to be installed on all city streets.!!!!!!!!
Once again tax payers take it in the neck, you better have a garage or you will being paying to park on the street all of them
1/03/2012 09:24:00 PM
After the hosing we took on the first meter deal, I don't believe Rahm Emanuel will risk the HUGE voter fallout of pulling a stunt like that.
The huge changes are:
1. Knocking down the jets and sending the feral criminal filth to the burbs. The south suburbs, formerly nice, are borderline unlivable due to all the shitheads. You cut cancer out, you don't spread it around. What fucking assclown came up with that idea?
2. Improved medical care, mainly GSW/trauma medicine. I find it absolutely disgusting that all the radical and absolutely revolutionary medical advances bought at the cost of our young men and women in Iraq, Astan and elsewhere are being used to keep parasitic criminal fucks alive to destroy more taxpayer resources. No money=no medical care. All these crippled up fucks in the ghetto ought to have been dead years ago.
Chicago's got the same population as Toronto, but ten times the murders.
There's something in the water over there. Not going to say what it is, but something is very different.
1/03/2012 02:35:00 PM
In Toronto, Asians are the largest minority group. 'Nuff said.
OT: 911 Tells Mom 'Do What You Have To Do': Okla. Mom Sarah McKinley Kills Intruder Justin Martin
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/04/mom-kills-intruder_n_1183336.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl7|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D124743
Mother, 18, Kills Intruder Breaking Into Her Home While on Phone With 911
http://gma.yahoo.com/video/news-26797925/oklahoma-mother-18-kills-intruder-breaking-into-her-home-while-on-phone-with-911-27777235.html
Sure our homicides have dropped. I believe it. I also believe McCarthy to be a bitch puppet who is not a man but a rotten piece of filth we commonly find in buckets inside of the abandoned houses. McCarthy is ruining this dept and our high n mighties at HQ can't do or say shit even though they've been here their whole careers/lives. what a circus.
Since somebody injured in a shooting last November died on Monday, will the 2011 murder total increase? Or will it just conveniently remain misclassified?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-victim-in-november-west-englewood-shooting-dies-20120109,0,1345675.story
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