Worries About SS Irish Parade
- After a two year absence, the South Side Irish Parade is coming back, but not everyone is happy about it.
The parade was scrapped after complaints that parade-goers were getting out of control.
Arrests. Alcohol-induced fights. Countless injuries, even to law enforcement. It's not hard to understand why the South Side Irish Parade was called off for two years.
What's hard for 19th Ward Alderman Matt O'Shea to understand, is why anyone would want To bring it back.
Organizers not only plan to dish out $80,000 in private security, but also plan to launch a new emergency phone number to use on the day of the parade to call in incidents happening live for instant police response.
O'Shea admits the security plans he's seen so far won't cut it.
"I have not seen a public safety plan that makes the neighborhood safe that I'm comfortable with, nor has the Chicago Police department," he said.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
72 Comments:
Can we postpone the parade until the weekend of 19-20 May?
As to the direct emergency phone number. Last time I was at the parade the cell phone infrastructure was completely overwhelmed. I couldn't call my brother on the next block. Maybe 1 in 5 tries went through.
good luck.
"I have not seen a public safety plan that makes the neighborhood safe that I'm comfortable with, nor has the Chicago Police department," he said.
Wow, forget about all the murders, home invasions et al. We have a real safety plan emergency. And this is a parade. He must have his iPod buds in during city council meetings. Lalalalalalala, huh? Huh? What I miss?
IT'S THE TRAINING EVENT FOR G* nato
Enjoy my friends enjoy
Thanks you Rahm
Luv you Anonyumuch
Now wait a minute here....
We are well-trained to handle G8/Nato but we aren't, apparently, well-trained enough to control a bunch of redheaded Irish people and assorted other parade guests?
Does anyone else see the irony here????
Seriously. We lost control of the crowds there and also at the Gay Pride parade, people who just want to cross-dress, dress up their favorite body parts, get drunk and so have to pee on things?
But we can handle G8/Nato with no problem?
Good grief Charlie Brown.
Maybe we could let the ANOV'd drunks from last year work off their fines by hiring them to work as security at G8? Deputize them! It sounds like they could handle the G8 people with no problem.
Just get them drunk, hand them some sticks and rocks and let both crowds go at it?
My Sunday / Monday DOG is looking real good about now.
And even better in March!
"Organizers...also plan to launch a new emergency phone number to use on the day of the parade to call in incidents happening live for instant police response."
Got some bad news for all you 'Organizers'. There's no such thing. Instant noodles? Yep. Instant karma? Possibly. Instant police response? Hell. Fucking. No.
One, there ain't enough police ANYWHERE to have a cop instantly responding to anything.
Two, the closest thing you'll get to "instant" is a copper on-viewing something. And guess what? Unless it's another copper needing assistance or something of a heinous nature, my self-preservation overrules any kind of proactive response.
Inviting mayhem into your backyard knowing full-well the potential ramifications calls for leaving nature to take it's course. We'll arrive after all is said and done to pick up the pieces and cut the almighty case report.
Oh yeah. For those of you who haven't looked at a calendar recently, this abomination will likely take place on St. Patrick's Day itself...A SATURDAY. So you can expect the usual miscreants to start imbibing ever earlier and quit even later than usual.
One more thing. Here's the new emergency phone number for that instant police response: (773) 238-8766.
What an embarrasment these morons are.
THIS ONE is VERY simple to handle.
Send only a very small amount of coppers to handle it and let the fuckin' thing BLOW TO HELL!!!!!
It will make the media and the shit will stop at least for another 5 to 10 years.
It's gonna be a little less of a mess, then next year, a little bigger, and then back to the same old nonsense. As far as I'm concerned, cancel all the parades.
"Instant police response" in a white neighborhood. You a dreaming.
Practice for G8..
The last few Irish parades have been far worse than Bud Billiken!!
$80K for private security is a joke! These drunken morons don't listen to the police what makes them think they are going to listen to some security guard?
While O'Shea opposes it, his wife's uncle Skinny leads the charge.
Points to ponder @ parade committee:
1)If the parade is so great, have the executives of the beer companies putting up the money have it in their communities...lol, you'll never see that.
2)Someone tell me exactly what private security is supposed to do or what power they have in a public domain? @the private security guards...are you willing to risk a lawsuit for one day of work and who will pay your legal fees in the event you step in sh..?
3)Why couldn't the community vote on whether to have it or not?
4)The city already has a parade in the downtown venue, built for large functions such as this..why not celebrate there or have the parade route on 115th-/Western to Kedzie...oh,wait, no bars are there.
5)No more PAPV's...how exactly are the police supposed to respond to fights and medical emergencies etc. when they do or will occur?
And yet, Bud Kill-A-Kid keeps going strong...
All I'm gonna say is follow the money on this one.
You'll know why it is back if you follow the $$$$$$$ ( and lots of it)
Many of us in the neighborhood do NOT want the parade this spring, because things got so out of control in the last 2 years it was held. We do NOT have confidence that parade organizers have an adequate security plan. We are NOT happy that the mayor and CDOT okayed the parade permit over the alderman's objections. This has become a divisive issue in the ward.
In my travels, I've seen yard signs recently in support of the parade - in areas where people tend to have huge drunken parties on parade day, the kinds of parties that tend to spawn drunken brawls in the streets. Wonderful. I can hardly wait.
Practice for G8 / NATO.
Doesn instant police response still exist?
When shit hits the fan you can blame Skinny Sheahan and his cohorts for orchestrating this fiasco. Yes Skinny is still throwing his weight around. Tool.
The last time I worked the oparade as a tact lieutenant was in 2001; at that time, things were borderline out of control. In my special event evaluation report, I suggested that "if the organizers are sincere in their wanting this to be a family event, the parade should kick off from 103 and California, at 0900 on a Sunday, and proceed W/B to 103 & Pulaski to disband." Obviously, THAT isn't going to happen.....
Its sad what this day has devolved into. The ORIGINAL purpose of St. Patricks Day was RELIGIOUS. It is supposed to be a day set aside to recognize St. Patrick for bringing Christianity (Catholicism) to pagan Ireland where the shamrock was used to demonstrate the holy trinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit to the pagan Celts. Patrick was an anglo-saxon slave made a saint by the Pope who further commissioned a special feast day in his honor for his missionary work for the Church. In Ireland up until maybe the last 20 years it was a HOLY day where businesses closed (even bars). The tradition was brought to this country by immigrant Irish to celebrate their heritage amongst anti Irish Catholicism. They are surely turning in their graves at the sight of young "Irish" girls urinating in alleys and peddlers selling stupid striped top hats with marijuana leaves on them as a way to show the "wearing of the green." Every Irish-Catholic who cares about their heritage should rightfully be ashamed of the way this parade has gone. Like so many other things in this country it has been taken to the extreme
No worries. The new mobile field force will handle everything...ha!
Boo hoo who cares about beverly or mt. greenwood anyway? Nothing but a bunch of redfaced irish anyway. There is one downtown, how many are needed?
Awful parade. Has NOTHING to do with being Irish- has EVERYTHING to do with being hillbilly. And I live here, so I am quite qualified to comment.
I can fill you in on a lot about the parade. From day 1, the security company hired by the parade committe, S3, has been putting the blame on the police for not arresting enough people.
So, does that mean they will be arresting people, since there will be 200 private security people along the route? It's the public way, not private property, so they can't do squat. They cannot tell people to dump their cases of beer, not illegal to bring it to the parade, only to open it and drink it. They threatened to detain people for the police if they do not listen---NO CAN DO, that's Unlawful Restraint, since they don't have legal grounds or authority to arrest someone.
P.S. Plans still being finalized on police side, but a team of close to 100 north side officers dedicated to writing ANOV's will absolutely be at the parade, supervisors watching them. No plays to anyone. If they approach someone and give them a play, they get written up.
More info to come Thur night. Watch for it.
if the alderman feel the irish parade is too hard to control, then how do they think that we are going to control the thousands at the g8. seems to me they need to worry about the g8 and not the st. pats day parade.
The South Side Drunk Fest returns with the bat line up and ready for those hard charging rent a cops and understaffed poe poe's. Yep. This oughta be good.
O Shea is full of crap. He wants this thing, he was told by the Sheehans to act like you don't want it, be against it in the media and you'll look good. Emanuel rammed this down our throats as payback for backing Chico. All O'Shea has to do is file an injunction to stop this thing....did he do it?? Chirp....chirp
Folks we like to have our beers. The taverns on western are notorious for fights. The point: this parade generates income to these long standing businesses. The nuckle heads and kids drink there keeping them away from the quiet joints occupied by police
This shit show is going to be terrible. Any damage to the neighborhood or personal injury and the Parade Committee assholes should be held accountable.
The Parade committee is a pack of useless fucking assholes. Fuck every last one of them.
How about the SCAB security working on the public way in Chicago??
Oh and what is this shit about a "private" line for police service??
This is all bullshit
What jurisdiction will a security officer have on a city sidewalk? Especially to search bags and coolers and limit access.
a new emergency phone number to use on the day of the parade to call in incidents happening live for instant police response.
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just who would be on the other end of the line that could get faster repsonse than 911?
I think they should keep the parade and just cancel the southside.
Bud Biliken Parade is 20x worse so whats the big deal. Im glad they brought it back. It's a great time. SS Irish Parade has its few trouble makers and those that cant handle their irish beer but if i had to put a percentage number on the trouble makers it would only be about 5%
"Organizers not only plan to dish out $80,000 in private security, but also plan to launch a new emergency phone number to use on the day of the parade to call in incidents happening live for instant police response."
Reinstalling call boxes outside Cork & Kerry and Armanetti's??? Real time police response...just like dialing 911!
Funny how they do not say stuff like this about Bud Bilikan parade a/k/a
slum-killagain parade.
Did anybody see new the new request for Mobile Field Farce? I guess the last request for applications didnt get the response they wanted. They re wrote the outlines of the GO and made it sound alot more fuzzy and all warm but they still managed to put in there that they can at will, change your day off group, change your start time more than 2 hrs, change your furlough, make you spend more money out of pocket for equipments,literlly use you when and where they see fit. They phrased it they want the best of the best, you are the elite. Hah, what a crock of shit. You are an idiot if you sign up and not only are you going to be screwed time and time again but you open the door to them stepping all over our contract rights. Think before you act
What. They smooth over everything that happens at Bud Billiken. Won't ever point a TV camera at the people making hand signs, screwing on car hoods while an audience laughs and claps in time, etc.
"Whoo!"
"...also at the Gay Pride parade, people who just want to cross-dress, dress up their favorite body parts, get drunk and so have to pee on things?"
Don't know how many times fire had to inch a great big heavy bus of an ambulance through the packed-solid crowd to get to some lousy bar where there had been a fight, or where some drunken idiot had "fallen and hit his head."
"Uh, subject not here on our arrival, they say he got up and walked away on his own power..."
The last few Irish parades have been far worse than Bud Billiken!!
$80K for private security is a joke! These drunken morons don't listen to the police what makes them think they are going to listen to some security guard?
Amen!
True, cells phones rarely worked there. It will serve no good, but they will undoubtedly say "there were very few calls to the emergency line" and suggest that it's because everything was calm.
Here is an idea, lets combine the SS Irish parade with the G* and that other asshole fest. That would be fun, wouldn't it?
"The last few Irish parades have been far worse than Bud Billiken!!"
Don't recal any shootings or hundreds of missing children @ the SS Parade.
Nonsensical exaggerations that are baseless Azzclown.
Anonymous said...
"...We are well-trained to handle G8/Nato but we aren't, apparently, well-trained enough to control a bunch of redheaded Irish people and assorted other parade guests?..."
2/07/2012 01:14:00 AM
Not to worry. The McBraintrust has a plan!!!
There will be a new 8 hour training class for the parade detail, but you won't have to attend... It's the same training as for the G8/NATO, but the booklet they give you at the end will be tailor made for this event. They will have GREEN stick figures carrying a shillelagh instead of black ones.
Ha ha ha!
yet where are these complaints when it comes to Puerto Rico Fest and Bud Billiken?
The out of control drunk teens and 20-somethings bussed in from the burbs, North and South, caused the majority of the shit the last few years. They have ZERO respect for Chicago residents or CPD. They'll spit in your face, piss on your lawn, start fights, threaten to 'have your badge' (laughed when I saw that one on a youtube vid). That is if they don't pass out 1st from over indulging the Coors Lite and Jaeger Bombs they carry in their XL DD coffee cups.
Putting in for a furlo day, but taking a pass on the nonsense.
Let's morph the south side Irish parade and bud billiken parade together for once. I think that would start the healing, and get this city back on the right track!
yet where are these complaints when it comes to Puerto Rico Fest and Bud Billiken?
2/07/2012 02:53:00 PM
Will you and all the other apollogists for this shit show shut the fuck up already with the comparisons to Biliken and the PR Fest ?
Is that what you've become? You compare yourself to these fucked up displays of what passes for humanity in those communities?
What's next? Are you gonna tell people that you GOT a job. That you TAKE CARE of YOUR kids.
Comparing your shitty behavior to the shitty behavior of others does not help your cause.
But its for the City....
Anonymous said...
Bud Biliken Parade is 20x worse so whats the big deal. Im glad they brought it back. It's a great time. SS Irish Parade has its few trouble makers and those that cant handle their irish beer but if i had to put a percentage number on the trouble makers it would only be about 5%
2/07/2012 11:54:00 AM
The Bud Billiken parade terminates in Washington park. That's the difference.
"As to the direct emergency phone number. Last time I was at the parade the cell phone infrastructure was completely overwhelmed. I couldn't call my brother on the next block. Maybe 1 in 5 tries went through. good luck."
--2/07/2012 12:27:00 AM
...and there is your communications test for G8/NATO.
Only cost maybe 25 cents for one guy to find this out.
Someone tell OEMC -- or don't they know about G8 yet?
Got those FCC licenses renewed on the Wonder Van this time, or is it just sinkin into the mud?
2/07/2012 02:53:00 PM
How many MBC's have clout in City Hall, and you still ask that question?
Someone needs to shot a preachers kid before the revrunds will whine about the crap that goes on....
Cuz until some family member of someone connected gets hurt or shot, de all jus b funnin
"Organizers...plan to launch a new emergency phone number to use on the day of the parade to call in incidents happening live for instant police response."
What, 911?
Don't we have that already?
Duh.
"You say "instant." I say "backlog."
You say "DOPW." You say "Pissers." I say "Hold me down assisting at the multiple homicide."
Sorry.
Great Concept. Create A Giant Problem, Then Call Police To Solve It. Most Important, Be Sure To Monitor All Police Actions. This Way They Can Be Held Responsible For Everything That Goes Wrong.
Example "The E2 Night Club Tragedy"
Future Example "The G8 Summit"
PS: Have A Nice Day.
Wow private security on public streets. Sounds like a bunch a SCABS.
Looks like James "Skinny" Sheahan, former director of the Mayor's Office of Special Events and current parade planner, called in some favors and got the permit. I think the Alderman got back-doored. O'Shea is a first term Alderman-the old guard seems to be running roughshod over him.
Raffle tickets are going fast! Only 1,000 tickets will be sold – all proceeds used to cover the parade expenses. Just $50.00 for a chance to win up to $10,000! How’s that for a Pot ‘o Gold?
Did they get the correct Il Lic to run a raffel as required?
Never mind they are SS Irish and don't need one.
Love it or list it!
You're still putting lipstick on a pig.
Access this is considered training for the g8 nato nothing. If we can handle this then no outside help. If it goes to shit then bring all the guns
The last time I worked the oparade as a tact lieutenant was in 2001; at that time, things were borderline out of control. In my special event evaluation report, I suggested that "if the organizers are sincere in their wanting this to be a family event, the parade should kick off from 103 and California, at 0900 on a Sunday, and proceed W/B to 103 & Pulaski to disband." Obviously, THAT isn't going to happen.....
2/07/2012 08:36:00 AM
Shut up loo!
What no one is talking about how O'Shea got it shoved up his ass. When an Alderman says NO and the permit is given anyway. That's an Alderman not on control of his ward.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What no one is talking about how O'Shea got it shoved up his ass. When an Alderman says NO and the permit is given anyway. That's an Alderman not on control of his ward.
2/07/2012 10:47:00 PM
You mean like the 23rd ward alderman Zalewski getting his ward cut up,and next election he has no chance of winning?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What no one is talking about how O'Shea got it shoved up his ass. When an Alderman says NO and the permit is given anyway. That's an Alderman not on control of his ward.
2/07/2012 10:47:00 PM
You mean like the 23rd ward alderman Zalewski getting his ward cut up,and next election he has no chance of winning?
Read John Kass in the Trib today, and if you were to change G-8 To S.S. parade, I think the article could be written about the way the people of the area of the parade feel.
This ought to be a scream. Private security? Who? Sworn or not? Well, at least it'll be good practice for the G8...
With all the shit going on in the world these days,why is everybody so concerned about this pimpy little parade?It's nothing but an attention grabber for these in bred 19th ward politicians so they can march down Western Ave.and show off the children that they've had with their cousins.It's pretty simple.If you dont't like the parade,don't go.If somebody comes on your property uninvited,beat the fuck out of them.Most residents of Irish decent from Beverly and Mount Greenwod area are pretty feed up with the select few who think they own this neighborhood.
Just curious if Chicago has a "Caribbean Day" or some such similar parade/festival. Here in Boston, public drinking and even carrying unopened alcohol is prohibited at the Southie St. Pat's Day Parade. Flash forward four months to the Caribbean Festival... it's a free-for-all. Double standard much?
Stay safe, brothers and sisters.
I worked Lolopalooza and S3 has the security contract, they SUCK, they manhandle people and then try to dump them on CPD to handle the arrest, there is this Detective from A3, George who rides around on a golf cart throwing orders around like Patton, he used to bodygurad Dennis Rodman. A total stroke, You cuff them, you sign complaints. don't let him talk you into signing for them, when the lawsuit comes around , they will say, That is not my signature.
they are worried about this parade more than the Bud Biliken, Mexican Independence or Puertorican parades?
Now correct me if I'm wrong, and I might be because I've only lived in the neighborhood my whole life, but I don't remember any shootings, deaths or serious injuries (other than drunk Irish morons falling off of or into stuff.).
I don't see anyone crying foul over the other parades where those are yearly events.
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